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OneLegUpAlex Gets Terminello's Take on MLB All Star Game 2025 and Original Six 100th Season 7-14-25 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Derrek.
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  Speaker 2: Once again in this beautifully lit studio thanks to Andy Gladding,
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  Speaker 2: or engineering mastermind at Salem, New York. Back here with
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  Speaker 2: Lou Turminel and one leg up with Alex Garrett, LOUI.
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  Speaker 1: Lou, Alex, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of teams are looking forward to this All
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  Speaker 2: Star break, wouldn't you agree?
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  Speaker 1: I would say so.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that the first the thing that really
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  Speaker 3: surprises me about the first half of the season the streaks.
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  Speaker 3: The streaks. I mean, let's take two quick examples. The
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland Guardians lost ten in a row. They go into
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  Speaker 3: Houston last Monday. Houston had just beaten the Dodgers three
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  Speaker 3: in a row at at Dodgers Stadium. They were riding
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  Speaker 3: high the astros. Cleveland goes into use and sweeps them.
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  Speaker 3: It really doesn't make any sense. And there there are.
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of examples like that.
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  Speaker 2: Say in our own division of the Al East, Boston's
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  Speaker 2: on a ten game win.
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  Speaker 3: Stream absolutely when it looked like they were dead and
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  Speaker 3: they're not dead.
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  Speaker 2: Positions are in play right now, it feels.
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  Speaker 3: Like I would say so, Yeah, I would say the
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  Speaker 3: seven positions are in play, which is going to make
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  Speaker 3: the trade deadline different.
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  Speaker 1: Is it going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Exciting a lot of trades or with so many teams
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  Speaker 3: bunched up? There's five American League teams only four and
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  Speaker 3: a half games or less out of the wildcard spot.
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  Speaker 3: In the National League, there's four that are five and
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  Speaker 3: a half games or less out of the wildcard spot
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  Speaker 3: with two months to go. That's that's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: teams that have that believe they have a chance. You
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  Speaker 3: might see contenders trading, would con not training with teams
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  Speaker 3: that are out of.
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  Speaker 2: It, right, I mean that could happen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but that could happen.
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  Speaker 2: Louis, I gotta ask you this because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's been a fast first half the last few years,
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  Speaker 2: since the realignment, since the twelve games against the division.
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  Speaker 2: Is it just a faster pace now because there's so
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  Speaker 2: few games you can screw up against your division rival
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  Speaker 2: now it just makes everything faster.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like the way the schedule is now, but
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  Speaker 3: they're not going to change it, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what ords of the seven playoff spots
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  Speaker 2: that make it faster as well, like a little more
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  Speaker 2: fast paced. What do you think.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, the Major league owners wanted the seventh
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  Speaker 3: team and the Players Association only wanted six teams in
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs, and this one, I'm glad that the Players
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  Speaker 3: Association won.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so those only six teams? Okay, right right, it's
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, that's seven. I guess that.
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  Speaker 3: Is correct, That is correct. Yes, all these you know,
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  Speaker 3: all these leagues adding teams.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And now college playoff might be floating a fourteen game
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  Speaker 2: play Yeah, now it's playoff, and the March madness might
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  Speaker 2: go to seventy two to seventy six teams.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's all about squeezing every dollar out of a
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  Speaker 3: TV deal.
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  Speaker 2: But that six spot also makes the season go faster
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  Speaker 2: because there's so many more teams in contention now.
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  Speaker 3: So well, you want to stay in contention, but there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing worse than being out of it in July and August.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, imagine if we were watching the Chicago White
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  Speaker 3: Sox in the Colorado Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the White Socks are still considerably better than
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  Speaker 2: the Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, so it's been an interesting weekend. Look,
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  Speaker 2: the Mets ending, and I really think the one Soto
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  Speaker 2: All Star. It wasn't a snob, Okay, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's a snob. It's a snob, Alex.
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  Speaker 3: The season's only three long so far. He wins player
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  Speaker 3: at a month of one of those three months, the
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  Speaker 3: month leading into the All Star Game, and he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make it. And they put jokers on like Jazz Chisholm,
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  Speaker 3: who's only played sixty.
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  Speaker 1: Out of ninety seven games. I mean, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Or Jacob Mizeroski, who's pitched twenty five innings.
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  Speaker 1: The All Star Game is not what it is. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: it's just not well.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that the snub fired him up? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Because now he's in the homers left and right, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like.
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  Speaker 3: Well, again, he had a great June to remember, the
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  Speaker 3: All Star snub came July first, and again, I don't
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  Speaker 3: really care about the All Star Game. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: be watching it. I'm not watching Home Run Derby tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care about that stuff, because, Alex, this is
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  Speaker 3: before your time. If your late father was alive, he'd
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  Speaker 3: be telling you this. The All Star Game was not
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  Speaker 3: It was an exhibition game, but these guys played to
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  Speaker 3: win You're not gonna see Pete Rose slide into Ray
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  Speaker 3: Fossey anymore in these All Star games.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look at this Max free situation. Okay, so Max
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  Speaker 2: is not even I don't think he's even playing pitching tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: But he's not the only one, Alex. It's not only
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  Speaker 3: Max Freed. It's Zach Wheeler, It's Jacob de Gram, it's
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Boyd. All of them pitched on Saturday. Now Freed
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  Speaker 3: had also has the blister situation. That's legit. It wake
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  Speaker 3: me up on a Friday when the season resumes.
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  Speaker 1: But should should Juan Soto have been on the All
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  Speaker 1: Star team?
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  Speaker 3: Of course he should, he has an over four hundred
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  Speaker 3: on base percentage. But again I don't care, as I
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  Speaker 3: told you last week, as long as he wins the
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  Speaker 3: MVP of the World Series or as a contributed world
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  Speaker 3: and the Mets get to the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's nuts, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Really, do the are we still at the point where
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  Speaker 3: a player has to be selected from every team?
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  Speaker 1: Does anybody on the on the.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty two and a sixty four White Sox deserve to
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  Speaker 3: be picked or the twenty two and seventy four Colorado Rockies. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I know, Punter Goodman, the guy they picked is having
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  Speaker 3: all starts to season, But I don't care about those stats.
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  Speaker 1: The Colorado Rockies.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe that the Colorado Rockies all worse than
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  Speaker 3: last year's White Sox, who I thought was the worst
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  Speaker 3: team I had ever seen outside of an expansion team.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and wasn't just the lost number. Was the way
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  Speaker 2: they were losing. Remember they had to bump it into
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  Speaker 2: each other. They were as Actually Jason Bennetti said they
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  Speaker 2: were losing in White Sox ways. I mean, there's no
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  Speaker 2: doubt about it, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's why he left to go to the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: He made a good move as the Labor and now
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  Speaker 2: the Anks are good. But I mean, Labor seems to
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  Speaker 2: have really refreshed himself in Detroit and he deserves to
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  Speaker 2: be on the All Star team.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about the guy, you gotta look at this way,
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  Speaker 3: he signed a one year prove it deal with the
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  Speaker 3: with the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: And he's gonna get aything at the end of the year,
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  Speaker 2: and he's proving it now. One guy who are they're
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  Speaker 2: already saying get his money now, and I agree is
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  Speaker 2: Peter Alonzo. Okay, so Soto makes the dumb comment he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have anybody around him or something like that, and
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Peter Alonzo wakes up and does, well,
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  Speaker 2: you got me, and I will tell you this. I
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  Speaker 2: will tell you this. The guy is putting up numbers
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  Speaker 2: and he's hitting homers almost like he left off last season. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: they should extend him, shouldn't they.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna wait. They're gonna wait to the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: We know that David Stearns is not a big value
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  Speaker 3: of first baseman.
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  Speaker 1: He devalues the position.
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  Speaker 3: But if the Mets don't resign Alonzo, that would be
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  Speaker 3: a mistake in my opinion, it really would be.
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  Speaker 1: Kay. He leads to Nashley RBI. He's tied with with
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  Speaker 1: Suzuki on the Cubs.
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  Speaker 2: And he's in. You know, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Med fans are rallying around him like they did David Wright,
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  Speaker 2: whose number is being retired this weekend. Very cool for David, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: David Right.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, he was on his way to a Hall of
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  Speaker 3: Fame path and then started suffering the back fracture, which
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  Speaker 3: I believe was in San Francisco. He played with it anyway,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, once you hurt your back, as
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  Speaker 3: we've seen with with Edgardo Alfonso, with Don Mattingly, if
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  Speaker 3: you want to talk about a couple of local stars,
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  Speaker 3: the back the back in pacts so much. I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: that he's getting his number retired. He was a great
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  Speaker 3: met It's a shame that he was injured for those
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  Speaker 3: last six or seven years, but he always played hard
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  Speaker 3: and it's an honor he deserves.
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  Speaker 1: He deserves to have his number five.
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  Speaker 2: Retired, you know, and and Spiles knows it's nothing to
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  Speaker 2: mess with.
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  Speaker 3: And no, believe me, I have it. I have spine,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody in my family has it. My mother was
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: hospitalized with it. You know, it's it's it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Fun in Colorado. I'm not mistaken. There it was.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't remember it was Colorado with San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: But then it was a diving play and that was
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  Speaker 2: David right right there, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 2: He. Also, you know, got that walk off against uh Mariano.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that was quite a moment.
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  Speaker 1: I do remember that.
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  Speaker 2: Night, and you know, years later, I can't remember the combination,
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  Speaker 2: but the short stop at third basement, maybe Fraser was
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  Speaker 2: a third. But you know, when they wear the high
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  Speaker 2: socks and short, it reminds me of rays and and
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  Speaker 2: right again, you miss that combination there on the left side.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, at Fred's point, right deservedly in the hall
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  Speaker 2: this week. But I feel like Alonso is making his case.
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  Speaker 1: No question, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: When you were short, I believe of Darryl Strawberry's record, So.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct, he is going to pass Darryl Strawberry. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Darryl Strawberry should have been the greatest everyday met player
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  Speaker 3: of all time, but of course he's drug and alcohol
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  Speaker 3: problem got him. And it's a shame because Alex the
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  Speaker 3: sweetest swing ever.
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  Speaker 2: But and I mean I was around to watch his yankeeer.
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  Speaker 2: I was not around to watch his met ear, but
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  Speaker 2: I hear the met era was really just something.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's what that was his peak years, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he was a you know, you know that term
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  Speaker 3: five tool player.
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  Speaker 1: He was a five tool player. He could do everything.
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  Speaker 2: Now were those two I gotta ask, because I know
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  Speaker 2: Doc came up as rookie years, Well, were those two drafted?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the NMLB draft is becoming a thing, but
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  Speaker 2: it was a thing for many years. They got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of great players out of this draft.
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  Speaker 3: Year, right, well, the Mets drafted both and when they
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  Speaker 3: drafted Strawberry, you might remember Bryce Harper being on the
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  Speaker 3: cover Sports Illustrated. Strawberry was at that level as he
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  Speaker 3: was going through the system, and then he came up
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  Speaker 3: in eighty three.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't start the season.
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  Speaker 3: In eighty three, came up in eighty three, and even
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  Speaker 3: he didn't start the season, he won nationally Rookie of
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  Speaker 3: the Year. He should have been the MVP in eighty eight,
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  Speaker 3: and they didn't give it to him. He was one
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  Speaker 3: of the He was him Strawberry, Carter Hernanda. Of course
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  Speaker 3: the Hernandez trade. You know, they traded Leemazilli for Walt
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  Speaker 3: Terrell and Ron Darling, and then they got really bad.
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  Speaker 2: The eight team should have been a World Series content.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that is frustrating that the eighty eight
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  Speaker 3: team lost to a team that they had beaten ten
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  Speaker 3: out of eleven in the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: Which was I think the Cubs, right, I mean it.
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  Speaker 1: Was the Dodgers, the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: The Dodgers they beaten the Dodgers are ten out of
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  Speaker 3: eleven and they beat her Shis who was having that
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  Speaker 3: magnificent season. In Game one, they were down to nothing
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  Speaker 3: in the ninth inning, scored three in the top of
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  Speaker 3: the ninth. Then David Cohen, who had a spectacular first
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  Speaker 3: full season in the Major League's, lost Game two. Then
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  Speaker 3: the Mets won Game three, and they lost Game four
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  Speaker 3: and five at home.
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  Speaker 1: And I was at.
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  Speaker 3: At the Game three d Game four, Game four, Mets
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  Speaker 3: with two outs away from victory good and through a
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  Speaker 3: home run ball to to run home run home ball
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  Speaker 3: to Mike's Soosha, I could still see leaving.
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  Speaker 2: There was I think the Cubs and Mets were buying
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  Speaker 2: for that playoff spot in the eighty eight season. I
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  Speaker 2: think that there was something there with the Cubs in
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  Speaker 2: eighty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Well that was in eighty four, the Mets blue.
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  Speaker 1: The Mets blew out the division in eighty eight.
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  Speaker 2: This is why I have you you connect you correct
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  Speaker 2: my mindset here. But I remember the Cubs were also around.
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  Speaker 3: The Mets blew out the Phillies in eighty eight. They
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  Speaker 3: wanted division easy.
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  Speaker 2: Now the other thing I was I was, yeah, the division.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing I was going to say about that
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  Speaker 2: year was it was also the breakup of the core
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  Speaker 2: of the Strawberry you know, that whole team sort of
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  Speaker 2: both A couple.
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  Speaker 3: Of years later, they didn't re sign Strawberry, and Strawberry
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  Speaker 3: says it was his biggest mistake, and it was also
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  Speaker 3: the Mets mistake for not pursuing him. But again at
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  Speaker 3: his issues, there's no reason that team should only have
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  Speaker 3: won one World Series, Alex for seven years, that team
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  Speaker 3: was as good.
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  Speaker 1: As any team around and they only won one time.
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  Speaker 3: And it's always those factors that come in that have
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  Speaker 3: really nothing to do with talent. M you know, and
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  Speaker 3: he should be hands down the greatest Met everyday player
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  Speaker 3: of all time Downstow.
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  Speaker 1: He's not.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I gotta give credit to Jay Burwitz here,
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  Speaker 2: who's making sure all these numbers are in the raptors.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look how many he's gotten up there since
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  Speaker 2: he took over the alumni department.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, because the Mets were slow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not one of these guys to say retire every number,
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  Speaker 3: but the Mets were slow in recognizing Hernandez the great
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Jerry Kouzman and Jay definitely was a mover and shaker
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  Speaker 3: behind that. So so we'll see, we'll see what happens
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the year with the Mets. The Mets
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  Speaker 3: have too many holes in their line up right now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you got a center fielder who is gold
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  Speaker 3: Glove level fielder and a catcher in Lewis Toranz gold
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  Speaker 3: glove catching defensively, but they don't They don't hit.
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  Speaker 2: Enough, and the guy that was hitting is now sent
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  Speaker 2: back to the miners. I mean the Albares. I guess
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  Speaker 2: he did something changes swing in the off season, that's
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  Speaker 2: been drafted.
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  Speaker 3: They sent him down and apparently he is just killing
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  Speaker 3: it down there. He said eighth, He's eight homers in
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  Speaker 3: fourteen games. I assume he will be coming back soon.
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  Speaker 3: But it just goes show you, Alex, the difference between
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  Speaker 3: Triple A and the major leagues. Bert Brett Baty when
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  Speaker 3: they sent him down, was killing it. I mean it
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  Speaker 3: was just, you know.
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  Speaker 2: The highlight reel the whole season. I swear the Met
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  Speaker 2: the Syracuse means highlight reel and everybody. And then when
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  Speaker 2: they come back up, it's a different story.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I still, I mean, obviously he guys are
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  Speaker 3: so young, you can't write him off. But the guy
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  Speaker 3: and I think Alvarez could still be a star.
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  Speaker 2: And then Manaia there's still I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 2: back up yet, but they're a long awaited return of
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  Speaker 2: Joan Mnya. I mean he needs to get back to Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the fact that he pitched yesterday in relief
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  Speaker 3: was a big thing. You know, they did lose the
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  Speaker 3: game three to a bomb line thing, but it didn't
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  Speaker 3: look like Manaia had missed a beat, and they actually
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  Speaker 3: kept him longer in relief than I thought. He puts
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  Speaker 3: three in the third innings in relief of Clay Holmes,
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  Speaker 3: who's now over one hundred and one innings and the
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  Speaker 3: most innings he's ever pitched in the major leagues because
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  Speaker 3: he was a closer was seventy and twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: That's something to look at the rest of the way,
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  Speaker 3: how are they going to manage these innings for a
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  Speaker 3: guy who's never been a starter, and he's done great
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  Speaker 3: as a starter.
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  Speaker 2: Did you think the three thousand k's for clay for
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  Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw by the way, we think it's too talk
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  Speaker 2: about that last time, but three thousand CA's for Clayton.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to him. I feel like, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: now all these complete games are happening after the two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and k like, maybe managers are more inspired to
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  Speaker 2: let these guys go. Garrick Corfe Day having a complete game,
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  Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler complete game. I mean, maybe I'm just noticing
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  Speaker 2: it more, but.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there will be nothing more that would make me
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  Speaker 3: happy that you would get somebody would take over a
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  Speaker 3: major league pitching staff and start pushing these pitchers. That
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  Speaker 3: that would be, that would be sensational. They baby these pitchers.
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  Speaker 1: Alex.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching the draft yesterday and I'm watching the draft
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  Speaker 3: this morning, and they're up.
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  Speaker 1: They're up to like round seven on Day two, seven
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  Speaker 1: or eight. Alex.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Do you know how many teams are, including the Mets,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: And I think the all these teams are picking players
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: pitchers who had Tommy Johns, who had Tommy John surgery
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: They hurt their own.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Wow that they picked them even only to even though
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: they've undergone Tommy John surgery in the last three months.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, I have no I just can't
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: believe that Tommy John surgery didn't exist. Well, I know
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: it didn't exist, but the UCL injuries didn't exist back
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: in the sixties and seventies.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Man pitching is one of the is
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: the big thing that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: To uh, it's the biggest change in baseball over the
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: last fifteen years, no doubt about it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And so we'll see what the ank.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: You know, the Mets are only nine and seventeen from
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: June thirteenth to yesterday, July thirteenth.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I think the Yankees are eleven and eighteenth from.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, after winning eleven nothing on
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Friday and you're in the five game win streak, very disappointed.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: They lost the next two games, and I know the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Cubs are formerable, but yeah, that theories. I thought the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yanks could win after that blowout.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you figured that they would get at least
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: two out of three.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I think the Yankees are in good shape Tampa Bay.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: As I told you a couple of weeks ago.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: They have all these road games the second half of
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the year because of the Florida Sun. They played so
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: many games early on in the first half. There are
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: only three games, oh five hundred. Now they're still in it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Never count the Rays out, you never count to raise
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: James themselves.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are two games up on the Yanks,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't think the Jays are
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: going to have long Jefviety. I could be wrong here.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think the Jays are gonna have long Jeffarty.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: And I think the Yankees will finish first.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And that's a team. You know, you talk about teams
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: that should win the World Series. They have a lot
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: of talent on that Blue Jay team. I mean, they do.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Have a lot of talent on that team.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And there's always something missing, and we you know, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: know we've talked about that in the past, but there's
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: always something missing with the Jays. I think the Yanks
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: are going to finish first, and let's face it, the
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Mets and Phillies are going to be in the dog
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: fight to finish first. And those are two really good teams.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: The Phillies have major bullpen problems. They have bullprint problems
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: are as just as major as the Mets holes at
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: the bottom of their lineup, which I think the Mets
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: will try to plug.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: In connect yeah before the trade dead, and I think
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the Phillies will try to improve their bullpen.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: The Braves, it's just one of those years where everything's
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: gone wrong to you guys injured.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: It's just one of those years. But when you play.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Them, they're still tough, but they're not going anywhere. They're
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: nine and a half games out of a playoff spot.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Can they make that up? They can make it up.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I just don't think they are.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, I will go on record and say,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the All Star Game when they pull that out of
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Atlanta a few years ago, should have stayed in Atlanta. Okay,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: this is not a makeup. It should have been in
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: there at the beginning with.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, But they'll have their.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Moment tomorrow and the longer hayink Aaron tomorrow in the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: seven fifteen and whatnot. But it could have been done
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a few years ago. That's I think twenty twenty one,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. So yes, you all right? I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: want to ask you. I want to tell you this,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: though I don't if you remember, Tomorrow's the anniversary of
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: on the same Tuesday as the Yanks Marathon, say Marathon
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: All Star Game. I remember that because I was there
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: all fifteen innings or so. You remember that game?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: You sure doing?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: That? Actually was the probably the last which competitive or
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: rivalry type All Star game that I grew up. I
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: grew up watching all those years I remember that game.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: There was no free runner.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And you talk about Justin Homer on Derby Hamilton the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: night before, Oh.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Right, I remember that, Yes, I mean he was putting.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Even though he didn't win it, he was.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: The star of oh was And that's when they started
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to refigure out the format because they thought, well, why
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: could why did he lose?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: You know? Now he put on a show for the
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Ages that night, and another another player who should be
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame player, But again, obviously he had
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: his addiction issues.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that that one was a sad one. And uh,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you know we uh we pray for these guys. Yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: well you didn't have addiction issues. But I'm thinking of
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Bobby Jenks as well, who didn't have a diction issues.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: But man, that's a tough loss for the White.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Dad that came out of nowhere.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Obviously he's still a very young man forty four years
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: and uh died of cancer, stomach cancer, uh in Portugal.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: And ironically this weekend the White Sox had the anniversary
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: of the championship team and wife and kids were there.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And the Pope was you know at that World.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Series, Yes she was, he was. I mean, Fox still
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: has that video, and they had no wight. They just
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: thought he was another fan.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And now Konerko is connected because probably on the fourteenth,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Of gave him the jersey.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So uh. And you know that was because in my
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: lifetime up until that point, there was no Chicago team
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that won the World Series. So that was kind of
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: cool because my dad and I would always go to
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the White Sox and the Cubs. That's why yesterday was
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: so special because in honor of mister Steinbrenner, and I
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: also did an honor of my dad because he's a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Cub guy. And of course, as you said to me
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: in text, he's probably smiling right now and how good
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: his team is, the Cubbies.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I mean the Cubs are good.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: The Cubs are for this is no no fluke.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: The Cubs are good. We thought the Cubs were going
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: to be good.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't think we thought the Cubs were going to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: be this good and they're not.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're showing the Dodgers, but they
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: certainly could give the Dodgers a run for their money
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: this year into the playoffs.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: So well, you mentioned the Dodgers. I still think they're
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: playing possum. I really do. I mean, I really think as.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: We get to like September, in the next month, I
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: think you're gonna see them start.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: To There'll be the Game five when they took advantage
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of every mistake the Yankees had and then back up
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the bullpen and they weren't kidding around anymore. Basically, is
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: what you're saying. What you're sounded like is they're gonna
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: be like that Game five where they took advantage of
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: every Yankee mistake and then locked it in. I mean,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: as I told you Game three and four, well, especially
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the Game four, I felt like Roberts was not playing
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: hard at all, and as I'd say, the Yanks and
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: are in the victory. But I'm just saying he didn't
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: play everybody, you know what I mean.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: No, he can make a good point. Even with Otani.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Ohtani could pitch five or six innings. Now he's gonna
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: start pitching five or six innings around Labor Day because
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: o'tanni is gonna be a major player. Obviously, offensively, we
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: know he's one of the top two three players in
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: baseball along with Judge Soto, those guys Kyle Raley, but Alex.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you they are babying him pitching wise, coming
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: off Tommy John because he he's gonna be a major
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: player pitching wise in the postseason.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I know the MLB would love the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: managa Otani scenario again in the playoffs. I mean, I'm
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: sure that they're hoping that happens. But we'll see how
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the game goes. Speing of cal Rally, I gotta ask
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you because I see I think it was Rodriguez dropped
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: out of the derby. If I'm not mistaken, you wonder
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: if that's gonna be a thing years from a few
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: years from now, just because now he's afraid of the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: home run derby curse you're in the derby, screws up
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: your swing. A lot of guys probably are afraid of that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's not many competitors this year.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: It seems like, uh and I think Akoonya dropped out
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: of home run Derby.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe so yeah, So again.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It can't screw up your swing. I think you can.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And again, the next home run Derby Alex I'll be
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: in will be the first one.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: B lie, So I have.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Nothing to relate to it, But I think that's possible.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: When Richard Jefferson was in the dunk contest, Yeah, when
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: he was with the Nets, we were worried that because
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: some guys who who are in the dunk contest have
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: after the missing dunks in the dunk context and coming
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: up with creative dunks. Sometimes when they drive to the hole,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: they don't drive with the same authority that they did
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: when the season starts again, and we actually thought that
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: was gonna happen with a guy like Richard Jefferson. It
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: did not happen to him, so, but yeah, those kind
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: of things can happen.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, did Rick d.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Pahrow did his career really end or he had that
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: hip injury by being in that skills competition, you know
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: that that one on one skills to competition and he
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: stretched trying to make it safe. I don't know, but
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: again I'm not putting my guys in that position. So
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I think the Braves are glad that Queen He's not
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: not involved.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Well, especially because look at him, He's had this injury, after.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: He's had those two bad knee injuries.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: And then and then you know, Aaron Judge. I still
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: believe the twenty seventeen homerun Derby. It changed his career
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in a sense. I know he keeps sitting Homer's uses
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: his three hundred fiftieth over the weekend, which is pretty
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: amazing how fast he's done that lastest ever. But but
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt that swing injure him a little bit
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: over the years. I mean, I know he maybe he recovered,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: but there was something to that back in twenty seventeen.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, we'll you know, you can't say
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: for sure, but you can't say no.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So it'll be it'll be interesting. I I still find
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: in a tradition to see them line up every year.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Well that's the fun point when Alex, when I was
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: and again, if your dad was here, he tell you that,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he might of The Midsummer Classic was truly
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a Midsummer Classic. It was the only time the America
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the best of the American League played the best in
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the National League. Guys did not drop out unless they
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: were injured.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: In the American League over there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Now they have these stupid uniforms. It's like, let them this.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Ship are going back to the teams, the players wearing
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that team uniform, which I.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Like, I love that right, love that it was so
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: funny because I think a couple of years ago, because
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: there was of COVID, the American League was a home
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: team in the National of the League park and they
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: were wearing the home jersey and then anything to me, but.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, so, but in those days it was different,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Alex and the American League had a rule that you
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: that if you made the All Star team, you couldn't
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: pitch on the Sunday.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Before the All Star Uh, the All Star.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Break, right, you know, guys, the guy the gram pitch Saddy,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: he begged off it will pitch Saddy. He begged off
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Mac three pitch Saddy. He begged Dolphin even before he
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: got the blister. Matthew Boy, pitch Saddy.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He's not he's not playing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So all right, I have to make this one about
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the Ulstar Game as well, because even though he didn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: win it in my lifetime, now, I guess except for
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Buck Showalter, the three managers that I really grew up
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: watching in the in the Yankees dugout have now all managed.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, Buck Showlder didn't get there with the Yankees,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: but Tory Girardi and now Boone all managers in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: All Star Game. Hey, the Yanks still have some presidents
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: here even though we haven't won in sixteen years.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Sixteen years is not that long, my friend, I just
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: asked the Cubbies.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I guess, but m hmm, well this has been fun.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Louis any hockey news. I know we have some hockey
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: listeners out there, and I mean, I guess is the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: one hundredth year of the original six overall? Because all
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: these team are celebrating one hundred years.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: That is correct.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I did see today that they announced the opening nights
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: schedule on ESPN, with the Ranger going to host Mike
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Sullivan's old team, the Pittsburgh Pirates on opening night. Excuse me,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Penguins, thank you, we're talking baseball. The Penguins they
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: used to be an NHL team in the twenties, to
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: call the Pittsburgh Pirates that went out of business in
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the NHL. So the Penguins will be at the Garden
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: October seventh, but the first game is the raising of
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: the Florida Panther banner at five o'clock. They'll be home
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: in sunrise against against your father's favorite team, the Chicago Blackhawks.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: hope in Chicago. I mean, not only the one hundred
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: year for them, but they've got a nice core that
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: they're coming into the season.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: They do, there's no doubt about it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: And then Colorado was playing at Los Angeles at ten thirty.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: It's an ESPN triple head. The rest of the schedule
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: be announced on Wednesday, but the collective barring agreement was
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: completed and between the player Association and the owners. So
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: starting next year they September fifteenth, the old agreement will
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: end and the new agreement will come in. A couple
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of things I like about it. I know, we talked
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: about it. We talked about it a fair But there's
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: the they're gonna they're going to increase the schedule by
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: two games, which I don't get, but they're gonna increase
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the schedule by two games. They are cutting down the
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: maximum eight year deals to seven year deals if you
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: sign your own guy, and in free agency instead of
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: seven year deals are gonna be six year deals.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Like a quote unquote cap on that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a cap. I mean there is a cap.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: There's a ceiling in the cap in the NHL.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Now that the fact.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: That they're taking the eight year deal down to seven years,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I think means that conom McDavid's going to sign before
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: training camp or during training camp. I don't think he's
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: gonna take it to free agency next year, or he's
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: gonna sign a lesser deal, a four year deal. But
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I doubt that because he's twenty eight. So I have
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a feeling he's gonna sign at least an eight year
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: deal before Opening.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Night this year, and obviously he's the number one free
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: agent this year. The other thing, I don't know some
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: other little things.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Uh well, I have about Don leokrecor now moving from
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: ESPN New York radio broadcast, you know, the Rangers to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: now Devil's Hockey. That's gonna be very interesting.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you know doctor that. I was surprised to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: see that. Alex. He's a fine announcer.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I know he did Ranger backup for Kenny when Kenny
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: was on the road on the radio. He's a lifelong
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Devils fan, so that's a real for him. I thought
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Bill Spaulding did a very fine job in his three
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: years as played by play announcer. I don't know if
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: it was a mutual party of the ways, if Spaulding
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: was fired he should have been fired for uh for
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: performance because his performance was very good, or he got
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: a better opportunity that I don't know. So we'll you know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: we'll see, and they're moving. Don Maloney on the Rangers
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: radio to TV worked with Kenny.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That surprised me.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Also, yeah, but they have such a great rapport on radio.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I think I could see it translating the TV. And
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: already Maloney's been doing intermission reports with the MSG, so
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: it's sort of a perfect marriage.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And Kenny's one of.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Those play by play guys who can mess with any
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: color commentator in any sport he does.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: You want a real sign of a talent.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: You want a story. So when I was at Viscardi,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: he gave us tickets to a Ranger game. And then
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: they come to the booth. So the Rangers are up
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: one nothing against the Bruins. We go to the booth,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I think in the third period or something, and I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: listening to Maloney and Albert and the Bruins going two goals.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: They win the game, and I'm like, oh no, that
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: just jicks this team. So Maloney would not let me
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: live it down. And then the other funny stories I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: saw him in the hallway last year when we saw
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Kenny Albert and I actually then dropped his bagel. Now
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: he's on MSG Networks. I don't know what, but no,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: they are really good people and I'm excited to see
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: them pair up for TV. It's it's gonna be fun.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I thought maybe somebody like Ryan Callahan was going to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: get the TV analyst jaw, because he obviously does he
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: has and I just thought it was a natural, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: a natural fit.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: But by the way, together, when you were a sports director,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: you got US Ranger hockey a couple of games here.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: On the s for Es and Grecor was involved.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, he was a couple of times there. So good selling.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's good for him, so congratulations.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: The other news and notes I'm thinking about is the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Mavericks shutting down Cooper Flag. Should we worry about that
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: middle of July or no?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Right? No, no, no, no, I mean, obvi scored thirty
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: one points the other night.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: He's eighteen and a half years old. He's not injured
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: in any way.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I will tell you, I think the media is on
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: this summer league for the Knicks because of Mike Brown's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: for summer league. I mean, I don't really care. Although
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I did see they had ten turnovers the first game
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: in the first quarter or something. I don't know if
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: that mattered.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: They're just looking at the guys individually. You see if
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: they have any talent and where they can utilize their talent.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: And one last thing, We're almost there, as Scott Scott
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Hanson said, we're about eight. I knocked the box away
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: from an NFL red zone. We're almost there.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: We're almost there. Jets.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Jets training camp starts jen July twenty second next week,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and a Rod.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Is going to be in Pittsburgh. You can't make any
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of this up. You really cannot make any of this up.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: You're right, we'll see. I think Tomlin this is a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: good shot for him to work with with Rogers, and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: it might be his last team. I don't know yet.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well Rogers said that this is probably his last year,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: so and he respects Tomlin. We'll see what happens, Alex.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: They're in a tough division. I mean, it's I don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: know where they going to be.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Room for the Browns that same division. Five guys I've
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: never seen a quarterback room so filmed.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Right, No, you're right, So I wonder how many are
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: going to be there on September seventh when the season opens.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: But on Cleveland, I'm worried about DeShawn taking Dion Sanders'
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: kid under his wing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would be too.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: A little nervous there. But we won't go there. I guess.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I just hope they don't go to any massage pars.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Well, Lou, this has been a blast. I really want
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: to know what your favorite All Star game, since it's
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: All Star Game week, your favorite one to watch? Though?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: My favorite one, I mean is a famous one. It
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: is the nineteen seventy All Star Game where where Pete
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Rose bowled over Ray Fosse and not because Force got injured,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: and that was I wasn't a Reds fan.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It was the competition, the lead. None of these guys
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: have lead pride.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: None of the guys are going to see themor and
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Night have lead pride because guys playing both leagues. Now,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: in those days it didn't happen as frequently as in
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the past. The National League was down four to one
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: bomb ninth inning at Riverfront Stadium, they tied the game
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: four to four, and then in the bottom of I
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: think it was the twelfth inning where Pete Rose was
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: on second base and Jim Hickman, a former original met
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: of the sixty two Expansion Mets playing for your dad's
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Chicago Cubs, single to center field off California Angel right
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: hand to Clyde Wright, and then the rest is history.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I could still see Leo du Rocha, the third base
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: coach of the National League, wind milling Rose to home
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and bowling over FOSSi to win the game, and the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: whole nationally dugout exploded because in those days, that's what
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: they did. Alex Frank Robinson didn't talk to the you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: he didn't talk to those guys on the American.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: It also wasn't and I you know, I have to
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: say this, it wasn't a bunch of guys with millions
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of dollar contracts.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And right, that's correct.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Remember the minimum salary in Major League Baseball I think
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: until nineteen sixty seven was seventy five hundred dollars.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I might be off on a year or two one.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Half, and so they never complained. They just kept playing ball. Look, yeah,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yogi never complained on a contract that I could tell
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: he always played ball and played hard and now got
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to you got ten rings out of it, right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: And times are different. But what the thing?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: That the thing that sometimes it doesn't bother me, but
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: these guys go making all this money, don't realize what
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: those guys did to lay the groundwork for them today.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I will say that's why I honored George
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Seinberner's passing and his birthday every year because they actually
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: are eleven days apart, which is or a few days apart,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: which is hard to believe. But you know, I think
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: about these days because a of the impact he had
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: on me, but also it's getting lost all of these
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: historical people and historical you know, people that laid the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: groundwork are being lost in transition.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Here, you're correct, and we can go down any sport.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: We could talk about this for the next downur and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: we could break down each individual's sport and go over that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And those guys, those guys don't know what that is.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That is the New York Posts, Mount Rushmore, and basketball
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't or whoever doesn't include Wilt Chamberlain. I mean, come on,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: that guy changed the game. They made rules because of him.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That's correct.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: When the change the rules because of one guy, they
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: wden the lane because of him. The three second lane
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: used to be much skinnier than it was. It became
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: wider because of Chamberlain.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: You're right, but we can.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: One of these days we'll do our I'm not big
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: as you know on list and Mountain us More, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: just for conversation, we should do we should do that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, he's around here and and and and overall.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: For the hockey fans out there, sorry this show, Richter,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: For the Ranger fans who love this show, I still
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: got to say, and the hockey fans, Richter should have
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: been on that Mount Rushmore for New York Post. It's
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: a disgrace he wasn't.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Even though I'm not a Ranger guy, I'm a big
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Richter guy. I think he was. I think Mike Mike
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Richter is one of the most underrated players.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: And uh, everybody forgets in Game six at the Meadowlands,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: when Messier predicted that they would beat the Devils that night,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and they did and he got the hat trick. The
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: only reason he had an opportunity to get the hat
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: trick is because when the Devils were up to nothing,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't for Richter, the Devils would have been
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: up five nothing or six nothing.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: That's how good Mike Richter was. And he's underrated.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: He's a vastly underrated, underrated uh Ranger in my opinion.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And like I said, I I don't even like the Rangers,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: but I will always be fair and object.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: There you go, he's a great blue Terminello. I guess
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: this weekend one last thing, the Fever World Cup was
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: like a gold Cup, was just a precursor to next
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: year because it's gonna be back at my life in
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: honor of America to fifty.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: So correct.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was surprised at the revised Club Cup
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Championship as as a tournament went on, became more and
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: more interesting and and uh uh it was well attended
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: as the as the month long tournament went on, they
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: played way too many games, these individual teams in soccer.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I think Chelsea and PSG. Yes, they they were. They
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: were over sixty five since last August. You know, you
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: talked about player safety. That's not that's not carrying out
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: player safety. But no, next next summer, the World Cup
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: will be I.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Think the US has a really good chance of being
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: competitive and I don't know.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I hope, I really do.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: They looked pretty good this year, so we'll see.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, losing to their big rival Mexico is disappointing, but
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: you know, we'll see what happens.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Blue Terminilo Terminelo's take as always this All Star Game week,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: thanks for kicking off here at One Leg Up.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's my pleasure, Alex, thank you very much.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I want to say thank you for encouraging me to
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: do this idea spark campaign that's happening Wednesday, Pitch Best.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: We're going to get there, Louis.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I wish you the best of luck. You know that
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: nothing would make me happier.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: All right, Loud, talk to you soon. Thanks again, God
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: bless take care,