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S5:E8 - Coffee Smarter: Coffee Tasting Championships Experience · Coffee People Podcast

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Hey, good morning everyone, welcome to season 5 episode 8 on
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The Prost, West Coast coffee podcast.
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I'm Ryan Walton. This is the show where I bring
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you the stories of coffee professionals entrepreneurship
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and coffee education. Speaking of Education, my wife
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Trina Works in a school. She's an occupational therapist
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who works primarily with students with special needs and
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I'm incredibly proud of her and the work that she does.
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I also have to acknowledge that I do worry about her being on a
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school campus twice every year. She and her colleagues review
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active shooter, trainings somehow that has become a normal
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part of being an educator, That is wrong, schools are supposed
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to be safe places. They are filled with kids and
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the adults that have dedicated their lives to educating
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supporting uplifting and motivating them.
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That someone would kill a bunch of innocence in an elementary
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school or for that matter, a grocery market or any other damn
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place is a tragedy that politicians can't or more often
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won't come together to create gun laws gun laws that most
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people support requiring background checks and
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limitations on automatic. Weapons is shameful.
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That is the first step towards common sense, gun control.
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And I know those laws won't stop every person.
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Wanting to get a gun from getting one.
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Those laws won't prevent every future school shooting as much
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as I want. That to be a possibility, but
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they will stop some. And even preventing one will
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mean the world to the community of people who are less likely to
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lose, a child, a spouse, a sibling, a partner, a classmate,
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or a friend, to gun violence. So many have spoken more
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eloquently than I over the past few days on this subject.
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I'll try to share some of that at the end of this episode,
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Jimmy Kimmel's comments, that this is not the time to be
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silent. This is the time to be loud
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resonate. More guns are not the answer,
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demand that, your lawmakers, your local Congress, persons
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vote in favor of Common Sense, gun control laws like hr8 and
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the efforts to provide more Mental Health Services in your
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community. Those efforts might prevent
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future tragedies I could use another cup of coffee, and since
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this is a show about coffee, I'm going to have one.
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Well, I tell you about today's guest Ryan Sullivan, he is the
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director of coffee operations. At the award-winning, most your
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coffee company, and he is joining roast West Coast for the
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very first time, as a coffee smarter expert.
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Ryan, just returned from competing in the u.s. coffee
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tasting championships in Boston. Today, we're going to get to
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know him a little bit and he's going to talk us through what
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the Titian experience is like most your coffees 4S Ranch
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coffee shop was featured in my most recent Bean Journal article
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in the Coast News newspaper and it's also on roast
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westcoast.com. If you're in the San Diego area,
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you can have your own. Most her experience at any of
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their three cafes 4S Ranch makers Hill or the original
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Carmel Valley Ranch location. Ryan was chatting with me from
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the most to roasting headquarters and even though he
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was chatting from an office with a closed door, I could hear the
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work of coffee being roasted in the background, which if you've
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listened to the show, you know that I love and now that I'm
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thinking about it, I first interviewed most Rose
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co-founders, Bevin jail in while they were sitting, in their
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Carmel Mountain, Ranch cafe after this.
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You should go back and listen to that episode to learn more about
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most your coffees origin story by.
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Now, you should be pouring hot water over your V60 Brewer
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watching the carbon dioxide. Bubbles burst and listening to
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the sweet. Sweet sounds of coffee draining
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through the paper filter, into your favorite coffee mug because
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it is time for this coffee smarter episode with our newest
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coffee expert. Ryan, Sullivan of moisture
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Coffee Company. Make sure this is all good to
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go. This is actually the second time
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we met, we ran into each other in a parking lot, but welcome to
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the roast West Coast coffee podcast, if you wouldn't mind.
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Well, this is the first time you're on the show, introduce
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yourself, let people know where you work and what you do there.
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Yeah, well, nice to meet you again.
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Yeah, my name is Ryan Sullivan, the director of coffee
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operations for Buster coffee. It's kind of an ambiguous title
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for saying that I do a lot of different things.
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Here. So, no one specific task.
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But yeah, just handle him up out of a lot of stuff.
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Does that mean that you that you roast coffee or that you're
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creating like the plan for the roasting team or on the other
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side of things in operations? Just not specifically every day,
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this is what you do, but is that part of it?
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Definitely not roasting. I used to roast a little bit
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over here and my early days of mostra played a bigger part in
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developing those profiles, but not anything that I do.
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Now, I'd say the most involvement that I have in the
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roasting process has myself and the production team week.
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You see? Every batch of coffee that we
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roast and analyzed, Rose, curves, and profiles and talk
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about tweaking the flavors and things like that.
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So we do that every day and Then green coffee, buying would be
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the other major major thing that I kind of have my hands in.
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So I used to do all the sample roasting on arakawa for the
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green Bank program. I do maybe like 30 percent or
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less of it. Now if I can help it and try to
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just focus on on tasting coffee, well, and we're going to talk a
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little bit more about what goes into tasting coffee, you, you're
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just back recently from the US coffee, tasting championships,
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and I About roasting a little bit facetiously because you work
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with Nick Rarity who just won the national roasting
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championship and I want to get into that.
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But since you are a new coffee smarter expert to the show, I'm
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wondering I want to learn a little bit more about you.
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I'm wondering if you had like a first experience with coffee
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that really kind of inspired you made.
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You think it was something more than just this is something I'm
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going to do. Before I go about the rest of my
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day. Definitely.
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So I never drank coffee, ever in my life.
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And you know, my parents were at the time, you know, more
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traditional like you get, you go get a job at a company with good
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benefits and things like that. So in college, I found myself
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working at Starbucks again, didn't drink coffee at the time.
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Decided that if I was working there, I really wanted to know
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more about what I was doing and this is totally like as actually
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real. Like, I really did feel like
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that Was not this some story I made up after the fact.
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So you started drinking coffees there, you know, started with
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dark gross things because that's what I thought people did, you
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know, people who drink coffee drink dark roast coffees with
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with you know, cream and sugar. And at the time I had a friend
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back here in San Diego who was also getting into coffee.
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And so, when I, when I came back home for a quick visit, we went
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to Bird Rock Coffee Roasters. The original location and
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Burdock hallway at the time. And remember paying nine dollars
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or something for this Geisha from Panama and sat outside on
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the bench and took a sip and was like, that was 100% my aha
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moment. And driving back up to Santa
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Barbara. I was like I need to get
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involved in coffee and I just knew instantly that.
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That was what I was going to do for the rest of my life, man.
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I'm envious of people who have that moment.
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I've had that moment but I've had it like 25 times about 25
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different things. Yeah.
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So I'm always trying to find that thing.
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That's very cool. You ended up working at Bird
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Rock. I'm wondering what is kind of
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your year at most your coffee now.
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But before, Sure. What were you doing?
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Yeah, so Starbucks, like I said, to start in college then in
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Santa Barbara at the time it was called The French Press.
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It's now June coffee roasters. So on my trip back to Santa
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Barbara right after this, this fantastic cup of coffee that
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definitely changed the trajectory of my life basically
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went and chatted with Todd. They used to do this slow bar
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Saturday at The French Press. So I was like this roll-up door
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right by their roaster, and you order a pour-over, and you just
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chat. So, China, with Todd got an
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interview for probably a few days later and ended up getting
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a job job there. So, it was therefore, for a
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little bit. Coincidentally, like, right at
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the same time that Jared troubie, and Chris Baca from
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cotton Cloud had just left Verve and Jared actually came on as
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director of operations. For The French Press.
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So I was a pretty cool looking back on it.
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Definitely like a pretty cool like a couple role models who
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you know kind of help train and got to chat with them about just
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all these different coffee ideas in my head.
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That's really interesting that you mentioned them.
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I, I've interviewed a couple of people this week who all mention
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cat and cloud and you can kind of see this.
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This, I want to call it a coaching tree because like in
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the NFL they talked about like all these assistant coaches.
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Went on to become, you know, had coaches and it kind of feels
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like there's a linkage like that and coffee as well where so many
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people worked under the same people that motivated and
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inspired and uplifted them, or at least got them to the next
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step. That's one that keeps coming
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out. Yeah.
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No, they're both, they're both fantastic guys.
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You know, a lot of stuff and I don't think at the time I was
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able to fully grasps, I didn't know much myself, right?
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But 100% a self-proclaimed coffee nerd.
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And you know, long time ago there wasn't Things like we're
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used to hustle and James Hoffman wasn't making, you know, all
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these YouTube videos. So anything that you could learn
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was, you know, a few home, Barista forms here and there and
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then just talking the people that, you know, you were able to
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get in contact with to learn about coffee.
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So they were both super helpful and anyways, when I left Santa
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Barbara came back to San Diego, ended up getting a job at Bird
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Rock. Started out the original
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location in La Jolla and then moved to the Marina Boulevard,
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roasting facility and ended up, you know, kind of co-managing
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that space for a few years and the whole time, even when I was
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in Santa Barbara, I come back. My experience with with Moser is
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is kind of this long Saga of me going in as a customer The
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owners were running the running the shop, since you know, late
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2013 and I probably came here 2014.
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So right after they had started and just there was no coffee and
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North County, San Diego and I'm from Escondido.
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So kind of had this like, I guess dream of, you know,
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wanting to kind of work back at a Roastery, doing what I like to
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do, you know kind of near where I was living at the time instead
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of driving all the way to the Hoya or driving down to SeaWorld
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basically. So, I think it was probably
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three years of me coming in to moisturize as a customer and
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during that time, just, you know, chatting nagging to to an
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extensive. Hey, hire me, let me, let me do
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this and this, and this, and yeah, I guess three years just
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eventually warm down and they finally caved.
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And let me let me on board and do do what I do.
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The motivation to find work closer to home is so strong.
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I think it's Southern California.
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My wife and I moved from Pacific Beach up to you to Carlsbad
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because she works in Oceanside and then I was commuting back to
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Pacific Beach. Made it about a year and I was
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like the drive or even the train trip, could be 45 minutes or it
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could be three hours. Yeah, I got to do something
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else. Yeah, and here we are.
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Yeah, absolutely. So today, I coffee smarter
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expert coffee. Smarter shows, we try to Like
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teach people a little bit about either the coffee industry or
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something specific. I mentioned earlier that you
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just got back from the US coffee championships, which is the huge
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Nationwide. Competition that leads to a
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world competition. You specifically participated in
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a tasting competition and I'm wondering if you can give us
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just like what is that? What does it entail and then how
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do you train for something like that?
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Yeah, so u.s. cup tasters, I guess for anyone that doesn't
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know cut. Cupping is the essentially
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International platform and standard for how we taste and
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evaluate coffee in the competition set up.
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It's a little bit different where we have six
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triangulations, each triangle includes two coffees so there's
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three bowls two coffees are alike.
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One coffee is dissimilar and as quickly and accurately.
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As you can, you have to go through each triangle and taste
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the copies and essentially pick the on coffee out.
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So you're not picking necessarily like a flavor notes
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or this or that, it's just this copy is different than the other
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two. How quickly can you identify
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that? Copy from the other companies.
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You do that six times. You basically have six minutes
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to complete the whole set, if you, if you use all of that
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time, the score is based on accuracy.
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And Then followed subsequently by time.
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So, if you're the only person that gets all six triangles
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right, then you win if you're one of five people that get 5,
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right then that's who did it. The fastest and who did it the
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slowest. And that's how it's ranked from
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from there on. And I'm assuming there's more
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than just six competitors. So I'm other Heats, is it like
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multiple like you're constantly doing this?
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Is it? And I guess I should ask about
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the time of it. Is it just like a one day event
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or is it over multiple days? Days.
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And I ask that because we just we just had a q greater on the
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show, talking about his, his testing process which was
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multiple days. So we did Regional competitions
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back in 2020 right before the pandemic and myself and Nick
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both qualified respectively in our our own competitions.
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But then due to covid, we didn't actually compete until this year
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so regionals. It's, I think maybe forty, eight
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slots or something. That and then you compete in
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regionals and they pick the top, you know, so many people from
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each competition to move onto the national stage and then it's
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the it's the top qualifiers from every Regional competition
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across the country compete at the national level.
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So the first round in Boston was the just the I don't know if
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they have a name for it. Exactly was just round round 1 I
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guess so round 1, you're competing it.
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I think at the time It was maybe 20 minutes, sweet 24 of the top
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people from across the country, from every Regional competition
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competing in Boston. And then, and then from there
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went to the top 16 down to the top eight to the top four.
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And then the final heat is the top four and that's spread over
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the course of a few days. So round one is, is the first
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day, then quarterfinals of the second day semifinals and finals
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are both occurring on the third. Today, it's interesting to me
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that you kind of have to have like a multi-day stamina for
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your palate. Yeah, you know, like I can drink
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the same coffee at home every a couple days in a row and it
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might not taste the same to me because of whatever reason and
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might have a hard time picking out the same flavors even.
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Yeah, and it's weird and competitions.
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This is definitely needs to be excited.
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Never competed at the regional level but they're not copies
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that I would say people that are in specialty, coffee would be
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familiar with the coffee is typically donated by some large
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roaster, who is usually Anonymous and they plan each
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triangulation so they progressively get harder each
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day and each round. So round one technically would
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be the easiest triangulation. Then round two round, three
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round, four Etc, getting a little bit harder each time but
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they're All incredibly or can be incredibly dark roasted coffees,
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which isn't, which was definitely not something I was
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prepared for. I've been wanting to say this
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for a couple of minutes, but it sounds like, it sounds like a
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photo hunt for your mouth like, which, which of these two things
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is, are the same or which of these is not like the other, you
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know, like in the old highlights magazines, when you're at the
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dentist. Yeah, it's like when I'm
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thinking of right now. Yeah.
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So how do you train for something like that?
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If it's not done in the same way that we traditionally, think of
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Copying where we're looking at Aroma and flavor.
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I mean, I'm assuming you're using all those same skills, but
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you have to mentally transform them into a different answer.
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Yeah. So I would say, you know, I did,
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I did fine in the competition, I made it through the quarterfinal
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rounds, so it didn't do Excellence.
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But, yeah, I have to say, I did, I did, okay, and I did not train
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for the competition. Like I said earlier, you know,
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Nick and I and the rest of the team.
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We do cup coffee all the time. I'm and so we kept blinds for
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everything that we roast. So we just have balls on the
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table. We cup, we identify things we
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like, and don't like about each copy and then we talk about it
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afterwards and only upon the the end of the copping to.
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We actually reveal what each coffee is.
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Now we do cup a lot of the same copies every day so like as I'm
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going through I can usually okay well that's like probably our
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Brazil and this is our you know Columbia from from this region
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and you know our Ethiopia from here and here here, right?
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So I felt pretty pretty prepared in that sense.
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Just in having a lot of time and experience coming coffee again,
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was totally not prepared for how dark and astringents and bitter
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and drying. All of the coffees in the
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competition where so moving forward, I would train
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differently and Brew copies and taste copies that I guess get my
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pal a little bit more acclimated for those who didn't come as a
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total. I'm shocked when I get to the
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table and I started drinking these coffees and I'm like, wow.
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I have, you know, never kept talking.
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He's like this before. Well, that's a, that's the next
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question. Then is this something you plan
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to continue doing competition or have you been through the
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wringer and you're like, I don't know like what's the benefit to
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you to do the competitions? I gotta win it.
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One day now that Nick has bragging rights.
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Yeah, exactly. I can't let Nick have all the
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fun. I mean it's honestly United is
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twenty four people each time they're all fantastic you know
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covers and I think it's a really interesting competition where
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it's almost like this great equalizer where you can have
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somebody who won it last year, maybe not make it through the
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regional competition. Q graders cannot make it through
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the regional competition can also get totally knocked out.
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You know, in the first round or maybe they make it to the last
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round, and then do horribly in the last round.
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So, It's just a really interesting competition and I
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have a lot of fun doing it. I'm definitely an introvert to
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an extent. So if I was going to do a
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competition, that's also the only one that I really feel that
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comfortable doing because I don't really have to talk to
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people and give this whole presentation and I just taste
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coffee. I just let that speak for itself
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and you're not gonna do that we do every day except sure will
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you were there with the mostra team?
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And we mentioned Nick who won his competition is going to be
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on the show later. The season, I'm trying to
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related to sports because it's like a team, right?
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Like, yeah. Is there coaching as in your job
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like between you and Nick? How do you support each other
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during the competition? Other than just being there,
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which I'm kind of also curious as to what the experience was
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like to be at a convention you know after two years of building
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towards it. Yeah, so the first thing talking
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about coaching and the team aspect I definitely think team
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support can go a A long way, I think you're definitely a little
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bit envious of other competitors, who, you know, when
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their names called or their round is finished.
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They just have this, you know, roaring Applause as opposed to
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someone who's there, you know, without anybody to support them.
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And it's silent other than the kind of generic clap.
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You know, congratulations, you completed that round.
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So I think that part's great and it's just that, you know, the,
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the team team spirit seeing familiar faces and stuff.
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That is really encouraging and I think uplifting.
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I was Knicks coach for for the roasting competition and Nick
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and I just work, I think really well together.
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We actually used to work together at Bird Rock quite a
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few years ago and obviously knew each other back then.
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And then Nick kind of made his way over here to mostra few
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years after I had been here, and we just think we work really
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well, like, in stride with each other.
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So, because we kept every day together, I kind of already know
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what Nick's thinking and he knows what I'm thinking kind of
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we spit out, similar flavor notes, but you know, we also can
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rip off each other and like, okay, why I like what you said.
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But like I kind of think like, you know, during the roast
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profile, like this is going to happen and change this flavor
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into this. So for the coach aspect of
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Roasters competition, the only thing that I can really do is
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taste next coffee and the only chance we actually had to taste
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the coffee that Nick was roasting was his sample batch.
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So Nick Rosa, sample of the Green coffee.
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We get to cup it once. And then from that cupping, we
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have to translate what we tasted in the sample.
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Nick has to formulate a roast plan and we have to call out
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what we think is going to happen during the rose plan.
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And what that result is going to be on the flavor of the coffee.
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So, it was a little bit tricky, but again, you know, you're
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competing against the top 24, best rushers in the country, and
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it's like everyone roast. Great coffee a little bit to
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each their own. So we were just trying to do our
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play, our game, and new roast coffee, the way we grows coffee,
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and I think again, having just Nick, and I with some
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familiarity with each other, being able to taste it and both
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know a very clear direction of like, how we would approach this
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coffee. If we were Posting it in our own
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space and that's just what we did.
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Now that you're back, has anything changed at mostra with
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the experience, and most has already been acclaimed for other
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things, but there's probably new attention.
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And are you going to get to go to the world championships in
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Italy? Yeah, we just got back and I was
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just busy. I think not necessarily entirely
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related to Nick went in the competition but just, we were
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all gone for a week. Let's call it.
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So it's, you know, all the backup of coffee that we hadn't
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been able to Rose. Catching up on the cafe orders
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and things of that nature doing terrible podcasts.
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Yeah. And we do I get him out of like
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have a good amount of media, outreach and attention.
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That we're trying to build am especially leading up to the
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world competition. So we've both been doing some TV
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shows and and segments, and things like that.
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I've been slurping coffee, really loudly on Some TV
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stations and Nick Smith talking about what it's like to, you
24:45
know, win the competition and what it's like preparing for the
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worlds. And then the Nick has this whole
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other windfall of like all these prizes and you know, he's
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supposed to go on and origin trip and he's going to Hawaii in
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a week or so. For this Hawaii Coffee
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Association and all these things that he's participating in now.
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So that's been a whole extra hurdle to kind of get through.
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But yeah the world competition definitely it'll be Nick and I
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again for sure. Roasting and, you know me doing,
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I guess the minimal amount of coaching that I can do and that
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trying to just help support as best I can.
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Well, it's a great accomplishment and I mean, for
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most, you're obviously, but also just for and then coffee in the
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San Diego region. Generally it brings a lot of
25:30
attention and is like, oh well, what are they doing there?
25:33
And, I mean, I live here and I know we have great Roasters
25:36
here, but it helps to have, you know, that, that message spread
25:40
every chance we get. So thank you for that.
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Yeah. Thank you for coming on the
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show. I know I get to have you at
25:45
least one more episode this season, so I'm looking forward
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to that. And thanks for getting us
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coffee. Smarter to act.
25:52
Thanks for having me to recap like a lot of coffee
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professionals. Ryan got his start at Starbucks
26:02
even though he didn't drink coffee at the time.
26:05
That came later one cup of single origin, pour over Panama
26:09
Geisha at Bird Rock Coffee Roasters in La Jolla.
26:12
Changed. His coffee journey and his life.
26:15
Before making his way down to San Diego, he worked with some
26:18
inspiring coffee professionals, including Jaret, Ruby and Chris
26:21
pakka before they started cat and Cloud coffee in Santa Cruz,
26:25
California. Coincidentally, I've actually
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interviewed several coffee Pros on this show, who Trace their
26:31
Journey back to time with the team behind cat and Cloud.
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I like to think that I've had a positive impact on some of my
26:37
former restaurant employees and colleagues but unless they tell
26:41
me so I'll never really know. Being able to interview, so many
26:45
coffee professionals. I'm actually starting to see
26:47
networks of people whose connections began when they
26:50
worked with someone who uplifted them, motivated them and got
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them to the next step in their career.
26:57
Now, Ryan is in a position to be that person for the team working
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with him, competing in the tasting championships is a big
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deal and it was pretty interesting to hear what the
27:06
experience was like in particular how different it was
27:10
from Ryan's everyday daily cupping for work.
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This year's World coffee championships are in Milan
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Italy, June, 23rd through the 25th, Ryan will be there,
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supporting his teammate had Roaster.
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At moisture coffees, Nick Berardi who is competing as the
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u.s. roasting champ representative Finally I think
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of you all out there, listening to this podcast and reading the
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And please always tip your Baristas and be sure to drink
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good coffee and now I turn this At form, over to Jimmy, Kimmel
29:15
speaking on his show, Jimmy Kimmel Live, courtesy of ABC.
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Hi, it's Jimmy. And I wanted to speak to you
29:24
directly without an audience, for just a bit before we start
29:29
the show, because here we are again on another day of mourning
29:33
in this country. Once again, we grieve for the
29:42
little boys and girls. Whose lives have been ended and
29:52
his families have been destroyed while are our leaders on the
29:56
right, the Americans at Congress and at Fox News and he's other
30:03
outlets warned us not to politicize this.
30:07
They immediately criticized our president for even speaking
30:10
about doing something to stop it, because they don't want to
30:13
speak about it because they know what they've done and they know
30:19
what they haven't done and they know that it's indefensible.
30:23
So they'd rather sweep this under the rug and, you know,
30:28
most Americans support keeping guns out of the hands of
30:32
criminals and children. The majority of us, do,
30:35
Democrats and Republicans and the reason they call them Common
30:39
Sense gun laws it because that's what they are.
30:42
Common sense, 89 percent of Americans want background checks
30:46
before a gun can be purchased, which is the just the very
30:49
least, we can do a bipartisan bill passed in the house.
30:54
It's been stalled in the senate for over a year.
30:57
Now, they won't pass it because our cowardly leaders just aren't
31:02
listening to us. They're listening to the NRA.
31:05
They're listening to those people who write them checks,
31:08
who keep them in power. Because that's the way politics
31:12
work. That's the idea we settle on it.
31:14
So we tell ourselves but it doesn't have to be that way.
31:17
Not for this. You know, you can tell things
31:20
are out of whack when the coach of the Golden State Warriors
31:23
shows more leadership and passion than almost every
31:27
Republican in Congress. And I'm I say that this tonight
31:32
with the hope not with an expectation but with the hope
31:35
that people like Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott and John cornyn
31:39
people who are elected. Goodbye Texans.
31:41
Well actually listen to it instead of going right to gun
31:44
control laws, don't work. And we need armed teachers and
31:48
guards at schools. If your solution to children
31:51
being massacred is armed guards, you haven't been paying
31:56
attention to what's going on. There was an armed guard in
31:59
Buffalo, there was an armed guard.
32:01
In Parkland, was an armed guard and eovaldi.
32:04
They had armed guards. There were police officers armed
32:08
on the scene. And these murder still happen
32:14
and gun-control laws. Do work by the way, we know this
32:18
26 years ago, Scotland had a school shooting that killed, 16
32:21
kids and the teacher and the government responded by enacting
32:26
gun control legislation. There hasn't been a school
32:28
shooting in Scotland since then in 1996 in Australia, a mass
32:33
shooting killed. 35 people. They pass gun legislation.
32:36
They haven't had one since this is the only country where this
32:39
keeps happening. Firearms are now the number one
32:43
cause of death for American children.
32:45
And teens number one, Senator Ted Cruz, I will say is stepping
32:51
up the Comfort. The people he serves who are is
32:54
the NRA. Ted is scheduled to speak at an
32:57
NRA event this weekend, and here's the thing I don't believe
33:00
Ted Cruz doesn't care about children.
33:03
I don't I refuse to believe he's unaffected by this.
33:06
He's a father. I bet he went to bed, sick to
33:08
his stomach last night. It's easy to call someone a
33:12
monster, but he's not a monster. He's a human being.
33:15
And some people might not only like, hearing me say that, but
33:17
it's true. So, Here's the thing, I would
33:20
like to say to Ted Cruz, the human being and Governor Abbott
33:25
and everyone, it's okay to admit you made a mistake.
33:29
In fact, it's not just, okay, it's necessary to admit you made
33:32
a mistake when your mistake is killing the children in your
33:36
state, it takes a big person to do something like that.
33:40
It takes a brave person to do something like that.
33:43
And do I think these men are brave people?
33:46
No, I don't. I don't but Oh man.
33:49
I would love it if they surprised me.
33:52
I would love it. If any of these guys surprised
33:54
me, I don't know. This is not a time for moments
33:58
of Silence. This is a time to be loud and to
34:01
stay loud and not stop until we fix this.
34:04
Some people say, this is a mental health problem, others
34:07
say it's a gun problem, it is both, and it can be both.
34:11
So let's work on both of those. There have been 27 school
34:15
shooting so far this year in this country and it's May How
34:25
does this make sense to anyone? These are our children and our
34:32
representatives are supposed to represent us.
34:35
We want limits on, who can walk around with an AR-15 and had a
34:39
mole shouldn't be a teenager who works at a fast food restaurant.
34:44
If we can't agree on that, forget it.
34:48
This is not their fault anymore. This is now our fault because we
34:51
get angry. We demand action, we don't get
34:55
it. They wait it out.
34:57
We go back to the lives that we should.
34:59
Rightfully be able to go back to, but you know, who doesn't
35:03
forget it. The parents of the children at
35:08
Sandy Hook and Marjory. Stoneman, Douglas High School
35:12
and now Rob Elementary School they won't forget it.
35:16
So, if you care about this and we all do doesn't matter what
35:20
party we vote for. We all care about this, we need
35:25
to make sure that we do everything we can that the make
35:31
sure that unless they do something drastic that.
35:33
Let's make sure that not one of any of these politicians ever
35:38
holds office again. And I'll leave you today with
35:43
Steve Kerr coach of the Golden State Warriors NBA team.
35:46
Speaking before their game against the Dallas Mavericks,
35:49
the night of the, you all day shooting Kerr, has long been a
35:52
proponent of gun control. His father, Malcolm Kerr was
35:54
assassinated by gunmen in Beirut when Steve was 18 years old.
35:59
This clip is courtesy of the Golden State Warriors.
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Basketball nothing's happened with our team in the last six
36:10
hours. We're going to start the same
36:12
way. Deny any basketball questions
36:15
don't matter? Since we left shooter on 14
36:19
children were killed. 400 miles from here.
36:24
And a teacher. And in the last 10 days, we've
36:28
had elderly, black people killed in a supermarket in Buffalo.
36:33
We've had Asian churchgoers killed in Southern California,
36:38
and now we have Children murdered at school.
36:45
When are we going to do something?
36:49
I'm tired. I'm so tired of getting up here
36:52
and offering condolences to to the devastated families that are
36:57
out there. I'm so tired of the excuse me.
37:00
I'm sorry. I'm tired of the moments of
37:03
Silence enough. There's 50 Senators right now.
37:09
Who refuse to vote on HR 8, which is a background check rule
37:13
that the house passed a couple years ago.
37:15
It's been sitting there for two years and there's a reason they
37:18
won't vote on it to hold on to power.
37:22
So I ask you Mitch McConnell, I ask all of you Senators who
37:25
refused to do anything about the violence and school shootings
37:29
and supermarkets? Shootings.
37:30
I ask you are you going to put your own desire for power?
37:35
Power ahead of the lives of our children and our elderly and are
37:40
churchgoers because that's what it looks like.
37:45
It's what we do every week. So I'm fed up.
37:51
I've had enough, we're going to play the game tonight.
37:54
But I want every person here, every person, listening to this,
37:57
to think about your own child or grandchild, or mother, or
38:01
father, or sister brother, how would you feel if this happened
38:04
to you today? We can't get numb to this.
38:08
We can't sit here and just read about it and go well.
38:12
So the moment of silence. Yeah, go dubs, you know, come
38:16
on, Mavs. Let's go.
38:18
What we're going to do, we're going to go play basketball game
38:21
and and 50 senators in Washington are going to hold us
38:24
hostage, do you realize that 90% of Americans regardless of
38:29
political party, want background check Universal background,
38:32
check, 90% of us, we are being held hostage by 50 senators in
38:38
Washington, who refused to even put it to a vote despite what we
38:43
the American people want. They won't vote on it because
38:46
they want to hold on to their Our own power, it's pathetic.
38:50
I've had enough. Our own power, it's pathetic.
38:50
I've had enough.