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With Further Ado Episode #9: Captain Elbow and the Algorithmic Sea · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 1: Tell me if this sounds familiar.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to a podcast, attending a presentation, or watching
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  Speaker 2: a live stream, and after a whole bunch of chatter,
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  Speaker 2: the hosts finally get around to the reason for the
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  Speaker 2: whole shebang, saying without further ado. It happens all the
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  Speaker 2: time at almost every event going back to the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of recorded history.
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  Speaker 3: But what happens at the host never actually get to
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  Speaker 3: the main attraction. What if the whole thing were just
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  Speaker 3: the ado? This is that show?
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  Speaker 1: We So far this summer, we've had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: toads slash frogs around our house, which has been a
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  Speaker 1: delight to my dad, who's been collecting them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: bringing them in. She's got like a container in the garage.
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  Speaker 1: She's made an environment for them. The thing that keeps
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  Speaker 1: happening is some nights some will jump out, and then
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  Speaker 1: some nights new ones will jump in. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where they're coming from. It's getting it's getting wild out there, man.
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  Speaker 4: For real. They jump in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where they're coming from. And it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty high, so I don't even.
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  Speaker 4: Know how they're getting in, all right, So there's no
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  Speaker 4: top on it.
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  Speaker 1: No, there's no top on it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's crazy, man. I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 4: do that, because like what happens you walk into your garage,
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  Speaker 4: you squish them or something, you know, say love yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: see yah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the risk you take. So she's finding all
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  Speaker 1: these toads slash frogs and I say that because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: call them just naturally frogs all the time, and she's
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  Speaker 1: scold me. She'll be like, it's toad or I'll be
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  Speaker 1: like it's a toad. She'd be like it's frog, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know the difference. So I thought
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  Speaker 1: to start off here, maybe I could educate myself along
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  Speaker 1: with some others by doing some frog versus toad trivia.
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  Speaker 4: Hmmm, okay, do you.
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  Speaker 1: Know a lot about frogs versus toads.
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  Speaker 4: I know that there was a little gaming system called
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  Speaker 4: leap Frog, and I know that there was a band
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  Speaker 4: called toad the wet Sprockets. That's it. Of course, that's
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  Speaker 4: my knowledge of frogs and toads.
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  Speaker 1: Walk on the ocean. Well, maybe you'll know some other
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  Speaker 1: things that you don't even know. You know, Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: answered all these questions, it's going to be either frogs
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  Speaker 1: or toads, So which have smooth, moist skin and prefer
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  Speaker 1: wet environments. Frogs or toads.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, uh, toads.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually frogs.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, frogs. Okay, I was gonna say frogs. But then
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, aren't frogs normally and dry? I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Now, frogs like the water a little more. Toads have
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  Speaker 1: the dry, bumpy or wardy skin and are more terrestrial.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, So we had an inground swimming
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  Speaker 4: pool when we were kids, and all the little tadpoles
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  Speaker 4: would become frogs. Then those were frogs because they like
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  Speaker 4: the water.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I think maybe they both have their eggs in water, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a qualifier.
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  Speaker 4: They hung out though after they became grown, they were
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  Speaker 4: in the water a lot, so they would be frogs.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe do they have smooth moist skin?
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  Speaker 4: I can't recall. I can't recall that far back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all right, Well, which one has peratoid glands
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  Speaker 1: behind their eyes that secrete toxins?
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's a toad, that's a toad. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Frogs may also be toxic, like poisoned dark frogs, but
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  Speaker 1: it's less common.
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  Speaker 4: Are tree frogs poisonous? Do you know that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I remember that, Like some tree frogs.
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  Speaker 1: Are I mean these guys who knows what they're secret?
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  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't lick any of them unless you're in
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  Speaker 1: the mood for you know, some fun or danger.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, or you could kiss one and you know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: it'll become a prince.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a risk, or you'll get you know, super
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  Speaker 1: high or dead. All right? How about this which one
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  Speaker 1: will puff up or remain still when threatened.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, that's a toad.
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  Speaker 1: That is a toad. Frogs, which have longer, more powerful
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  Speaker 1: hind legs, will leap away quickly. The toad's gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 1: try to like hide itself, or if who wants to
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  Speaker 1: show off, it's gonna puff up. How about this, which
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  Speaker 1: has a higher pitched croaky call.
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  Speaker 4: That's a frog.
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  Speaker 1: That is a frog.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm on a roll.
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  Speaker 1: Now you are, you've got it, now you know it.
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  Speaker 1: Toads have a lower, more monotone trill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I would describe it, a trill.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right? Now about this one which one lives longer?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's tough. That's a tough one. I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but I would venture a guess and say frogs. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you would finish strong. It's toads. Toads often
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  Speaker 1: live longer than frogs due to their hardy nature. Some
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  Speaker 1: species of toad can live over ten years in captivity.
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  Speaker 4: What ten years?
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  Speaker 1: A ten year toad?
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  Speaker 4: This is a real problem for you.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like, ah, not being able to tell the difference,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, constantly being like, hey, you got a
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  Speaker 1: new frog. It's not a frog, dad? Uh, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a problem. I just default to frog.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't like in my head, I don't even
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  Speaker 4: like to use the word toad.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't either, I agree, Yeah, I'm never My
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  Speaker 1: first instinct, though, is never to be like, hey look
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  Speaker 1: at that toad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you remember the band the Toadies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I like them too.
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  Speaker 4: They come from the water. That's actual song. I come
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  Speaker 4: from the water.
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  Speaker 1: Where did the name toad the wet sprocket come from?
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea. Sometimes they just named bands back
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  Speaker 4: in the day, they did. They didn't really have any reason.
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  Speaker 4: Like somebody was like, you know what, I love toads or.
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  Speaker 1: This is like based on this joke or something. Toad
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  Speaker 1: the wet Sprocket's name originates from a Monty Python sketch
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  Speaker 1: called rock Notes. In the sketch, Eric Idol performs a
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  Speaker 1: monologu where he suggests increasingly absurd band names, and Toad
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  Speaker 1: the wet Sprocket is one of them. And now a
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  Speaker 1: word from spam.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we were in a place where we celeb bright
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  Speaker 4: the ridiculous majesty and artistry of spam. I like that
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  Speaker 4: majesty and artistry. So this can be irrelevant or inappropriate
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  Speaker 4: messages sent on the Internet to a large number of recipients,
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  Speaker 4: and not to be confused with you know spam that
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  Speaker 4: can meet Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Spam, we get a lot of it. I was going
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  Speaker 1: to shine a spotlight on one genre.
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  Speaker 4: Of spam, a whole genre.
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  Speaker 1: Got kind of a genre. I don't know, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you know you have your royalty sometimes who will
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  Speaker 1: send you spam, like your prince of Arabia or whoever
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  Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, Saudi prince who wants to like give
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  Speaker 1: you some money because he needs help. Those kind of things.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another I'll call it a genre. Another category maybe
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  Speaker 1: surprise messages from tech company heads wanting to give you
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  Speaker 1: some of their money.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you've got some of these. These are funny because
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's likely these people heads of big tech
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  Speaker 1: companies have probably never sent emails to most people in
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  Speaker 1: their own companies, let alone me or you, And yet
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  Speaker 1: here we are. So I'm talking about your musks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: your Zuckerberg's bill gates, on and on and on. I've
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  Speaker 1: gotten some of these before, I know, in the past.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I had an example. I couldn't find one,
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  Speaker 1: so I did pull one from the WWW, the world
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  Speaker 1: Wide Web. I'll read that for you now. It's a
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  Speaker 1: short one, but gives you the idea Dear email owner,
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  Speaker 1: which is always a great way to address people. Dear
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  Speaker 1: email owner, my name is Jeff Bezos, an American investor
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  Speaker 1: and charity donor. I'm the founder, CEO, and president of
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  Speaker 1: Amazon dot com. Your email address has won you two million,
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  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. Kindly get back to me so I
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  Speaker 1: know your email address is valid. Mister Jeffreybow six hundred
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  Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, best regards.
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  Speaker 4: I love that at Gmail because that's official.
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  Speaker 1: It's very official and mister Jeffrey Bow six hundred. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of funny things going on there. You know, he
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  Speaker 1: identifies himself as an American.
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  Speaker 4: You have to tell people where you're from so that
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  Speaker 4: they understand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just for having an email address, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to give you two million, five hundred dollars, which is
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  Speaker 1: an interesting number, which is great. It's great that Bezos
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  Speaker 1: is doing this.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good one. And you know the thing about
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  Speaker 4: that is I like that it's a genre for one.
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  Speaker 1: Would you call it a genre? Is there enough of them?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they fit in their own category?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? They do. There's a lot of categories. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of genres of spam there are, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I came across one just yesterday, and I think you
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  Speaker 4: will agree. We have so many of these hit us
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  Speaker 4: all the time. Email all the time, you get telemarketing calls.
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  Speaker 4: That's spam. You know, you get spammed even in the mail,
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  Speaker 4: like all the junk mail, that's spam. But what's the
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  Speaker 4: one that's the most aggravating outside of all those? It's
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  Speaker 4: usually your text, right because you reserve your text for
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  Speaker 4: like people who are either close to you or you know.
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  Speaker 4: But now in the last like, you know, a handful
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  Speaker 4: of years, nothing sacred. Yeah, they all want your phone
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  Speaker 4: number to text you for everything. Like tonight I went
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  Speaker 4: to a restaurant and it wasn't even like it's not
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  Speaker 4: like a fancy restaurant, but when they make your food,
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  Speaker 4: they do all of your ordering through like a tablet,
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  Speaker 4: so you have to put in your phone number and
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff, right, and they immediately text you, and
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  Speaker 4: they text you and text you. It wasn't so much
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  Speaker 4: annoying as it was like cumbersome because I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, I gotta do all this just to order,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I just want to order food. But last night,
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  Speaker 4: I'm at a concert and right before the concert, we're
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  Speaker 4: kind of sitting there and I got a text and
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  Speaker 4: here's what the text read, would you like to join
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  Speaker 4: us at our barbecue tomorrow night. And I thought to myself,
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  Speaker 4: that's insane. I don't know why that's insane to me,
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  Speaker 4: but it was like they win another level.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Normally it's like they either don't have enough effort where
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  Speaker 4: they're like, hey, are you gonna answer me? That to
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  Speaker 4: me is like it's not enough to engage me, But
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  Speaker 4: would you like to join us? At our barbecue tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 4: That's all it said to me. I was like, that's
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  Speaker 4: pretty genius because they chose like an actual event that
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  Speaker 4: could be somebody I knew.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the phrasings, you know a little off, but.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little off, which is always why you
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  Speaker 4: know it's spam, right, Yeah. And the other thing is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this was a Wednesday night and they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: do a barbecue on Thursday night, and I just you know,
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  Speaker 4: come on.
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  Speaker 1: You never go to a barbecue on Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: Time it up. Time it up on a Friday for
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  Speaker 4: a Saturday, you know what I mean, Like, don't be
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  Speaker 4: so over zealous and you send it to me on
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  Speaker 4: a Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 1: Those are pretty good. I just saw these online the
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  Speaker 1: other day. There's a whole like series of Reddit threads.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of people responding to these in pretty
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  Speaker 1: hilarious ways by taking it to like terrible places, like
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  Speaker 1: a few were to respond and be like definitely, do
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  Speaker 1: you think you're going to be cooking human flesh again?
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  Speaker 1: You know something like that. Yeah, Which I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's a good idea to ever respond to these,
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  Speaker 1: but it's pretty hilarious when you see some of the
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  Speaker 1: responses people send to some of these.
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  Speaker 4: Like if you could see the person, then I would
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  Speaker 4: love to respond, But I don't know what's on the
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  Speaker 4: other end of that, so that makes me a little skittish.
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  Speaker 4: Like when I've got telemarketing called before, sometimes I'll mess
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  Speaker 4: around with them, you know, just because you can hear
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  Speaker 4: their reaction, you know what's going on. You can kind
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  Speaker 4: of understand to some degree through their tone with you
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Like a text, I would get
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  Speaker 4: that satisfaction anyway, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you what I fell for one of
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  Speaker 1: these years ago. Like, but the first time I like
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  Speaker 1: encountered this, it was somebody had sent me one of
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  Speaker 1: these like hi this other it was like somebody else's name,
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  Speaker 1: like and I'm like replied, I'm like, I think you
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  Speaker 1: got the wrong number. That's not who this this is
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  Speaker 1: not who this is. And then they started like engaging
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  Speaker 1: me in a conversation. And I told my wife, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like this, this woman's like flirting with me. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: that's spam.
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  Speaker 4: You get in spam.
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  Speaker 1: That spam And like immediately she's like, nobody's nobody's text
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  Speaker 1: third with you. But it was like something like that
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  Speaker 1: where I was like, ah, is that how they're doing
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  Speaker 1: it now?
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  Speaker 4: And it's only getting worse because you know, like all
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  Speaker 4: of the videos and now are fake. You know, like
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  Speaker 4: I can't trust anything, even if it looks super real,
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  Speaker 4: I can't trust it.
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  Speaker 3: Call it.
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  Speaker 2: Call it colon whoa colonoscope?
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead and bend over colonoscopy.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good one, following a popular trend these days,
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  Speaker 1: as any colon doctor rolling in green likes to say,
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  Speaker 1: the more colon's the better.
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  Speaker 4: Is that what they say?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, that is what they always they always say.
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  Speaker 1: So what we're doing here is where, you know, brainstorming
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  Speaker 1: ways we can add more colons to titles or add
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  Speaker 1: colons to titles. Well, we're working with today a very
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  Speaker 1: specific movie. They recently announced there's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: sequel to the nineteen ninety movie Days of Thunder. So
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  Speaker 1: we thought, let's come up with some sequel titles that
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  Speaker 1: will contain the almighty colon in them, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you got to have it, you know, yeah, Mission Impossible,
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  Speaker 1: Colon Dead, Reckoning Part one, et cetera. You know, everybody
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  Speaker 1: loves the colon these days. Let's get ahead of this
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  Speaker 1: and give Days of Thunder the colonoscopy treatment.
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  Speaker 4: All right, before we get ahead of it, can I
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  Speaker 4: just take one step back and tell you how much
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  Speaker 4: I enjoy when you said, as any colon doctor rolling
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  Speaker 4: in green likes to say. Because I was thinking about myself,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, is that what they're called? Colon doctors?
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  Speaker 1: There's no name for colon doctors.
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  Speaker 4: That's the part I focused on. I was like, it's
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  Speaker 4: not a colon doctor, right, that's it. That seems too listen.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to use the technical term that you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't understand a colon.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're keeping it simple. I get it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but you got to admit a colon doctor's actual name,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: a proctologist is actually kind of a cool name.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It is. That's what I should have said,
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  Speaker 1: as any proctologist rolling in Green likes to say, we're
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  Speaker 1: actually colon doctors. What we're doing right now is colon doctoring.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doctoring the colon's so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: all right, Well, Days of Thunder, it's got the sequel
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  Speaker 4: coming out. Here's one that I immediately have to throw out, right,
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  Speaker 4: just Days of Thunder, Colon Dome Thunder Dome.
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  Speaker 1: Days of Thunderdome.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a thunderdome. It's a cop out. Most people
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't even understand the reference. Probably they'd be like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's why it works on two levels. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I have a bunch in one family.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Cruise has a great name in Days of Thunder, a
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  Speaker 1: great character name. He's Cole Trickle, right, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: classic movie name. I workshopped a lot of names, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of colon names, using that character name or incorporating that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll throw some of those at you now. One
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  Speaker 1: of my favorites, Days of Thunder Colon slow trickle. He's
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  Speaker 1: a little older. Yeah, he's a slow trickle.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just hit you up with my fallow up
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  Speaker 4: to that is Days of Thunder Colin just a trickle.
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  Speaker 1: Mmm okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's only about him, right,
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  Speaker 4: like Maverick. Just a trickle, Just a trickle. That's a
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  Speaker 4: good one. I also had, you know, I thought maybe
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  Speaker 4: this is the end for him. You know, he's kind
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  Speaker 4: of coming to the end of his career. Hm.
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  Speaker 1: It could be last trickle, Okay, final trickle, Yeah, little trickle, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would work. Okay, I toyter around with the trickle effect.
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  Speaker 1: Mm yeah yeah, yeah, blood sweat and trickle.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the one I like the best of the trickles
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  Speaker 1: is Days of Thunder colin full trickle.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're going all the way. Yeah, you gotta
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: go full trickle. You can never go full trickle. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: knows you never go full trickle. I like those. The
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: trickle name is funny, Cole, you know, Cole, Trickle is
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: a funny name. I thought of, like Days of Thunder
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: colon coal trane. I went the other way too.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think of going with that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Cole because you know, the thing is is like there's
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: just too many jokes in there. You can't go wrong.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: What do you think of? You know, of course you
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: got Thunder two colon electric boogoloo.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Of course you do.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but what if you had Days of Thunder colon
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and lightning McQueen. So see, like Days of Thunder and
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Lightning McQueen. You know, it's a race car.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It's perfect. I you know, didn't want to. I have
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: some other ones, but you've set me up perfectly, so
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I got to go there. Along the same lines, this
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was my favorite one. I think this is the one
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of what I came up with.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's a.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Masterpiece based off the worst song of all time. It's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Days of Thunder Colon Lightning Crashes.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Ah yeah, I like that. Lightning Crashes.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It's got lightning, it's got thunder and lightning, it's got crashing. Yeah,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's got a lot going on there. I think that works.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what if you did along the same lines Days
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: of Thunder Colon struck?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty good.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because cars, you could get struck by
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: a car? Right, who could get struck by a car?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Which they did a lot in that first movie, you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I'd like also somebody said at one point, Ah, I've
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: been struck by a car.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: You got to work it into the actual dialogue. But
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: you know, like with the Lightning MC Queen, Days of
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Thunder Colin and Lightning the Queen, you could, you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: have a real great Pixar sort of mash up.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You were thinking Lightning Queen would actually show up?
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So what if maybe we dropped the colon?
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Does that go against the segment title?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: No, I think we could do. I thought of a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: couple too without the colon I think we're all right.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: So get this. This goes off of a previous topic
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: that we had maybe off air, I don't really remember.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: So you got days of Thunder. What if you had
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: weeks of thunder or years of thunder?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I went with years?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Did you go with years?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought of, because you know so much
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: time has passed since the original. Yeah, I think it
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: makes sense to go years of Thunder.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a pretty cool title.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: It is. It's pretty good.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: But to our point in our conversation, where listeners didn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: hear this, then you're missing an opportunity. So do we
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: need to have you know, weeks, months, decades of thunder?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: You know that's true.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I also toyed around with I was trying to find them, like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is there any good like, you know, lines of dialogue
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: from the movie we should be putting after the colon,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So I went, you know, we could do days of Thunder?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Rubbing is racin Days of Thunder dropping the hammer or
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: days of Thunder? There is a line in the first
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: one where I think it's Nicole Kidman talks about control
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: being an illusion. So Days of Thunder colon the control illusion.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: So it's trying to work something like that in there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Didn't think it quite worked.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: It's too off off nobody.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a direct to video Days of Thunder the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: control illusion.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: But I'll take that a step further, just brainstorming. What
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: if you use the illusion part? And I'm thinking about
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that movie with the Magicians, Days of Thunder Colon, Now
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: you see me, now you don't.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: So it's a Days of Thunder colon, Now you see
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: me colon, now you don't.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, could you do that or do you need to
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: do like a different type of separator in there?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, you can do whatever you want.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Could this be a segment? So if you've listened to
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the cast at all, this cast, this isn't the first
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: one you've come in in. We like to end each
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: episode by pitching an idea for a new segment on
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: the show. This is how we get the segment titles
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: like Colonoscopy or now a word from Spam. Those are
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: all segment titles that came out of this brainstorming exercise.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: You think these horrible ideas just fall from the sky.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: All right, So do you have any good new segments?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got one that I think it's pretty good.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like the segment name too. M
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It's named after a song by Huey Lewis and the News.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: It's called I Want a New Drug.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Now, the idea for this is you come up with
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a new pharmaceutical that could solve a problem or give
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: humans a new ability, most likely something we probably shouldn't
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: be taking a pill for. But what are you going
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to do? Sell? For each pharmaceutical, the person will provide
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the brand name, the tagline, the key benefit, you know
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: why it's on the market, and some potential side effects.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: HM.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'll provide you on an example here. So the drugs
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: brand name is scroll.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Acts Scroll Acts, okay.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: The tagline is because you really didn't need to check
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: your phone again. The key benefit reduces the urge to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: mindlessly scroll social media or news feeds within minutes. Scroll
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Acts clears dopamine cravings and boost focus. Perfect for writers,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: remote workers, and people stuck in doom loops. Potential side
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: effects vivid dreams about TikTok dances, temporary traction to analog
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: clocks may cause extreme smugness towards screen users, sudden urge
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to buy Moleskin notebooks and say I'm unplugging.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that has a lot of potential. You want some
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: scroll X. Yeah, I'd like to have that segment be
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: a real thing.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You're into it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's pretty good. I like it. I like
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: your example, but I do like the segment, the potential
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: segment for that dis Guy's lemit. You could do that infinitely.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, endless possibilities and.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: We could be super creative. And there's like a little
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: bit of a marketing twist to that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is definitely the marketing angle to it, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: with the tagline and the name, and you know, obviously
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: some comedy in there, with the side effects and such.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, comedy's subjective to us clearly, you know. Yeah, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: those who find us funny.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Small section of the population. But maybe we could create
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a drug to cure that more people find it's funny.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: So that's a good one. I think that's a keeper.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: We should keep that on there on the list. Yes, yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: hopefully we can get the rights to that song so
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: we could play that and that could be the segment intro.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, that would be nice.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I want a new dug.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe Hughie's listening right now, you know, I think he's
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: he's got a good taste.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: He'd come on the cast and do that for us.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Okay. So my pitch idea is kind of bouncing between
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: two different titles. One is marketing Masherie, okay, or the
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: other one is promo Pandemonium. So a little alliteration.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: There, always like an alliterative title.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the sort of thought behind promo Pandemonium or marketing
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: mattery when promotions go off the rails intentionally. So the
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: idea is, okay, it could be a mashup of any sort.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: It could be marketing, could be branding, could be music,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: it could be movies. Just something that is a you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: kind of clever and witty, but just something that you
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: know kind of has a has a fun mash up
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: to it. So I'll give you an example of that.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: This would be The Fast and the Flame and Hot
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a right, okay. So it's a high octane brand crossover
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: between The Fast and the Furious and Cheetos. So the
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: plot is dominic Toretto comes out of retirement to stop
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: global snack shortages. The only clue a trail of neon
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: orange dust and burned rubber, and the villain Chester Cheetah
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Gone Rogue, now drifting through Tokyo with a flamethrower and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: a taste for vengeance. The tagline for this is it's
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: not about family anymore, It's about flavor. That's pretty good,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: all right. And then the marketing tie ins could be
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: like limited edition nas you know that they would put
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: in their cars Nas Nacho Blast energy drinks. You could
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: have custom Cheeto dusted steering wheels, you know, limited to
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: seven unsafe units Vin Diesel, asmr Crunch experiences on Spotify.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: You know, you got his voice. And then like you
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: could have a social media tag. The social media hashtag
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: would be hashtag rider snack. You know how you like
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: ride or Die. And then it could be streaming on
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Peacock Max Plus formerly HBO Flaming So, you know, again
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: mash up. It just could be a fun and anything
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: goes kind of mashup. So that's just one example. But
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: you know what do you think of that?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I like the idea of mashups gone wild? You
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: know in some way, like how far can we go,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like bringing two things together that should never come together?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You know, you have the marketing angle. Maybe we don't
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: even totally need that, but just like thinking of like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what kind of crazy things can we bring together? Though
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I do like some of those pieces you have in there,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like the way you did, like some of the tie
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: ins and stuff like that that we can include, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and there's different ways to do that depending on what
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the mashup is.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just like yours. You know you have like you
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: pinpoint what you should have for each item this one.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: You know, you could have a tagline you don't have to.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: You could have you know, marketing time, you don't have to.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: The idea is like how to mash up two things
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: that shouldn't be together or maybe intrinsically should be mashed together,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: you know, because it could be fun and weird, like
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: these two things shouldn't be together, but it's kind of
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: funny when you hear them together because you're like, oh,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I could kind of visualize that actually, right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're both extreme, but it's it's almost like
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: how far can you stretch with your mashup? I do
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: think we need another I don't know what the right
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: word is in front of mashup, you know, to describe this.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: I liked marketing Mascherie because Masherie is not really a word.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't have to be a literation, you.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Know, it doesn't. It's just you know, it's sweet when
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: So between those two, I think they're both winners. So
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: you like this one, yeah, I'd say it goes in
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: all right, the list grows further, it just keeps going.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: We're going to have a never ending cycle of new
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: content for you, sweet sweet listeners out there and the
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: U with further ado Universe Universe. I don't know if
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: you should call them sweet listeners sweet listeners? What would
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: you call them sweet listeners?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I would call them gentle?
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Again, really, I call them sweet. You call them gentle.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Maybe they don't like that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: They do? They like that's that's kind and calming?
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Oh they like okay? They you want to calm them.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I want to subdue it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Someth