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- 0:02Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, And welcome to JFK Book Reviews, the
- 0:04Speaker 1: division of the Lone Gunman Podcast. I am Rob Clark.
- 0:09Speaker 1: He is Joe Borelli, and today we're going to be
- 0:12Speaker 1: reviewing the book eleven, twenty two sixty three by none
- 0:20Speaker 1: other than Stephen King. And look at this.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Oh that's a good spot there.
- 0:30Speaker 1: She may be the thickest one yet, I think so.
- 0:34Speaker 1: And she's got a good thump to her when you
- 0:36Speaker 1: tap that ass. You know what I'm saying. She's a
- 0:43Speaker 1: big girl, Big bad Bob loves the big girls. So Joe,
- 0:49Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about this book here
- 0:52Speaker 1: that we're going to be reviewing today.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Sure. So it was released in twenty eleven, obviously by
- 0:59Speaker 2: Stephen k and the first by a Schreiber Publishing division
- 1:05Speaker 2: of Simon and Schuster Incorporated from New York. Yes, and
- 1:11Speaker 2: the first words are this book is a work of fiction,
- 1:14Speaker 2: and any reference to historical events, real people, or real
- 1:18Speaker 2: locales are used fictitiously. Other names, characters, places, and incidents
- 1:24Speaker 2: are products of the author's imagination. And it is Steve.
- 1:30Speaker 2: It was Stephen King's sixtieth book. And when I saw that,
- 1:34Speaker 2: I was like damn. He should have wrote two more
- 1:36Speaker 2: made at number sixty three, but it was announced on
- 1:43Speaker 2: his website in March of twenty eleven. There was some
- 1:47Speaker 2: short excerpts released in June twenty eleven and October Entertainment Weekly,
- 1:55Speaker 2: New York Times and Rob. This book received a lot
- 1:59Speaker 2: of rewards. It became a number one bestseller. It stayed
- 2:03Speaker 2: on the New York Times Bestseller list for sixteen weeks.
- 2:09Speaker 2: It won the twenty eleven Los Angeles Times Prize, Times
- 2:14Speaker 2: Book Prize for Best Mystery Thriller and twenty twelve International
- 2:19Speaker 2: Thriller Writers Award for Best Novel. It was nominated for
- 2:24Speaker 2: the twenty twelve British Fantasy Award for Best Novel and
- 2:29Speaker 2: the twenty twelve Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel.
- 2:33Speaker 2: And the novel was also selected by The New York
- 2:35Speaker 2: Times as one of its ten best books of twenty eleven.
- 2:39Speaker 1: So Wow and.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Also as You Know was adapted into a Hulu mini
- 2:46Speaker 2: series Hulu in twenty sixteen, starring James Francos among others.
- 2:51Speaker 2: And I will say the guy who plays Lee does
- 2:54Speaker 2: kind of resemble him. Maybe he was time traveling. You
- 2:59Speaker 2: never know. You can get this from from thrift books
- 3:05Speaker 2: for as low as let's see, they're all ranging about
- 3:10Speaker 2: twenty bucks for the lower copies target Walmart and going
- 3:20Speaker 2: up to thirty dollars. And I saw one on Etsy
- 3:22Speaker 2: for three hundred dollars. I was like, Oh, and it'd.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Be signed in Stephen King's Blood Yeah.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Yeah right, or written to JFK Jr. Signed signed by
- 3:34Speaker 2: the guy in Daley Plaza. It consists of six parts,
- 3:41Speaker 2: the original softcover ten ninety pages and the hardcover Slash
- 3:50Speaker 2: online pdf version eight fifty nine pages. It obviously does
- 3:54Speaker 2: not have an index or end note section, but does
- 3:57Speaker 2: have about a fifteen page after word section, which I'll
- 4:02Speaker 2: address in my closing thoughts and Rob. This book definitely
- 4:06Speaker 2: has a fictitious loan no time traveling.
- 4:14Speaker 1: It does. Was that good? Yes? Yes? Now I'm going
- 4:18Speaker 1: to preface this by saying, Joe that I grew up
- 4:22Speaker 1: a huge Stephen King fan, not just reading his books,
- 4:28Speaker 1: but I mean kids my age grew up on Kujoe.
- 4:35Speaker 2: It no iPads, no iPhone.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And I mean right, Salem's Lot, the Silver Bullet. I
- 4:43Speaker 1: mean these are iconic Stephen King novella adaptations into cinema
- 4:51Speaker 1: that opened up you know a whole new audience to
- 4:53Speaker 1: his books. Christine forgot about that one. And like I said,
- 5:02Speaker 1: I grew up a Stephen King fan. I read a
- 5:05Speaker 1: lot of his books. And you know, as you get older,
- 5:13Speaker 1: you tend you know, you have to start working, you
- 5:15Speaker 1: have a family, You have less time to read books. Right,
- 5:20Speaker 1: So you know, I'm very picky about what books I
- 5:25Speaker 1: read nowadays because I don't have time to just sit
- 5:29Speaker 1: there and read every decent book that comes out, right, right,
- 5:34Speaker 1: I really woo me.
- 5:36Speaker 2: I am one agree, yes.
- 5:39Speaker 1: But back in twenty eleven, of course, being interested in
- 5:44Speaker 1: this subject, this book wooed me right now. I did
- 5:51Speaker 1: have the original hardcover and I don't know what happened
- 5:55Speaker 1: to it. So in one of my used books trips,
- 6:00Speaker 1: I picked this up. As you can see, this was
- 6:03Speaker 1: published well after the Hulu adaption came out. It's on
- 6:07Speaker 1: the cover. But I did have the original hardcover and
- 6:13Speaker 1: I I had it in one of my cars the
- 6:16Speaker 1: last time I saw it, and I don't know what
- 6:20Speaker 1: happened to it. I lost it over the years. So
- 6:22Speaker 1: I decided to pick up the paperback just so i'd
- 6:27Speaker 1: have it because it fell out of the trunk. It
- 6:30Speaker 1: might have who the hell knows, you know, the kid
- 6:33Speaker 1: might have spelled a milkshake on it or something, or
- 6:35Speaker 1: puked on it, who knows. So you know, Stephen King
- 6:41Speaker 1: is the master of horror yes, right, he is the
- 6:44Speaker 1: master of horror writing. And I think, you know, sometimes
- 6:53Speaker 1: when you have geniuses that are contemporary to the time
- 6:58Speaker 1: that they're true masterpieces aren't recognized until long after they're gone. Yes, Fortunately, though,
- 7:10Speaker 1: you know, we have a master of his genre alive
- 7:14Speaker 1: right now and still working, which is amazing, you know,
- 7:19Speaker 1: to be alive at the time when Picasso was alive,
- 7:22Speaker 1: or Andy Warhol or Jackson Pollock or you know, John Steinbeck,
- 7:28Speaker 1: you know, just great novelists, great artists, great musicians. You know,
- 7:35Speaker 1: they generally don't get their flowers until long after they're gone.
- 7:38Speaker 1: But Stephen King gets his. And I believe this was
- 7:46Speaker 1: his first foray into historical fiction, meaning while sometimes his
- 7:55Speaker 1: books are set in the past, he's a big fan
- 7:59Speaker 1: of writing things in the time that he grew up,
- 8:01Speaker 1: like in the fifties and sixties. I mean, you see
- 8:04Speaker 1: when Christine was set, you know, you know, you see
- 8:08Speaker 1: when stand By Me was set. Yeah, you know, a
- 8:14Speaker 1: lot a lot of his stories revolve around settings back
- 8:17Speaker 1: in the early fifties and sixties, because this is the
- 8:19Speaker 1: time that he grew up and this is the time
- 8:22Speaker 1: that he loved.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Yeah, and Rob I watched a YouTube video recap of
- 8:27Speaker 2: him talking about this book, saying it brought him back
- 8:30Speaker 2: to the fifties and sixties and you know, describing that
- 8:34Speaker 2: era and how it smelled and how the dress is,
- 8:38Speaker 2: you know, how people dressed. So yeah, one hundred percent.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Yeah. And while this is by no means a horror novel,
- 8:47Speaker 1: by no means, it is very much a complex I
- 8:54Speaker 1: would call it a science fiction novel more than anything
- 8:59Speaker 1: because of the time travel aspect, right, and the paradox
- 9:04Speaker 1: is that, of course that introduces into the story. And
- 9:09Speaker 1: this is a very multi layered story. And me and
- 9:12Speaker 1: Joe were talking before the show, you know, it kind
- 9:14Speaker 1: of it's hard to follow unless you are really dialed
- 9:19Speaker 1: in because you're jumping back and forth between time periods,
- 9:25Speaker 1: multiple time periods, multiple names, multiple places, things that have
- 9:31Speaker 1: happened before, things like this. It's a lot to keep
- 9:35Speaker 1: straight and really understand, you know, and take it in.
- 9:43Speaker 1: You know, I mean, imagine reading this book, Joe, if
- 9:45Speaker 1: you knew nothing about the Kennedy assassination. You know the
- 9:50Speaker 1: fact that we know some stuff about the Kennedy assassination.
- 9:52Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty cool. But somebody that didn't know
- 9:56Speaker 1: shit about it, this would just be a time travel
- 9:58Speaker 1: book for them. But you have this story. In the
- 10:01Speaker 1: backdrop of this story, you have a main character who
- 10:08Speaker 1: is struggling in his real life, you know, seemingly without
- 10:12Speaker 1: a purpose. I believe. In the book, Jake is a
- 10:16Speaker 1: ged teacher, okay, high school teacher. Yeah, he's a high
- 10:22Speaker 1: school teacher and he teaches ged classes on the side
- 10:26Speaker 1: at the local community college or whatever. And you know,
- 10:32Speaker 1: he's not really happy with his life or how his
- 10:35Speaker 1: life is going. So you have him struggling with that.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Then you have him being introduced to a whole new
- 10:45Speaker 1: world and unbelievable world, one that he can go back
- 10:51Speaker 1: in time and visit the past and influence things changing
- 10:57Speaker 1: in the future. Now the premise of this book, right,
- 11:03Speaker 1: So he meets this guy named Al who owns this
- 11:06Speaker 1: burger joint that out the back door, the burger joint.
- 11:09Speaker 1: If you're down a couple steps, all of a sudden,
- 11:13Speaker 1: it dumps you. At eleven fifty eight am on September ninth,
- 11:18Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight. Blah bloh, in the middle of this
- 11:23Speaker 1: small little town, this quaint little town. And of course,
- 11:28Speaker 1: you know, he goes through and describes, you know, the people,
- 11:31Speaker 1: the cars, the music, the atmosphere, the food, the drinks.
- 11:37Speaker 1: You know, getting a root beer float just tastes amazing,
- 11:40Speaker 1: you know, and seeing all these cool cars, these cool
- 11:44Speaker 1: old cars, and hearing the cool old music and just
- 11:48Speaker 1: how people were in the fifties, you know, just very nice.
- 11:52Speaker 1: And of course he does start some weird character in there, right,
- 11:55Speaker 1: this drunk bum you know with the yellow card. Uh,
- 12:00Speaker 1: Bill Turcotte, I can't remember.
- 12:04Speaker 2: George McKay.
- 12:06Speaker 1: He's got a couple of games.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Yeah, the bar cender who joins Jake's mission.
- 12:13Speaker 1: No, Oh, it's a guy who's got to pay money
- 12:17Speaker 1: to Every time he goes back, there's always like this
- 12:20Speaker 1: drunk asshole what you know that they can see him
- 12:24Speaker 1: and seems to remember him at times through his drunken stupor.
- 12:28Speaker 1: But so the premise of it is every time he
- 12:32Speaker 1: goes back, he can go back for as long as
- 12:35Speaker 1: he wants, right, he can go back for two years,
- 12:40Speaker 1: but in our reality only two minutes have passed. So
- 12:47Speaker 1: you know, he can go back for ten minutes and
- 12:50Speaker 1: two minutes have passed here, or he can stay for
- 12:52Speaker 1: ten years and two minutes of past here in our world.
- 12:55Speaker 2: I would have loved to have that ability.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Man right loved Every time he goes back, everything resets.
- 13:05Speaker 1: So it's not like you can go back and make
- 13:07Speaker 1: some progress and then come back to reality for a
- 13:09Speaker 1: little break and then go back. No, you got to
- 13:12Speaker 1: start from scratch every time you go back. Now, I'm
- 13:19Speaker 1: going to read a little piece of Al the burger
- 13:25Speaker 1: joint owner, telling him about how things are, and he says,
- 13:35Speaker 1: when it comes to the river of history, the watershed
- 13:37Speaker 1: moments most susceptible to change are assassinations, the ones that
- 13:43Speaker 1: succeeded and the ones that failed. Archiduke Franz Ferdinand of
- 13:48Speaker 1: Austria gets shot by a mentally unstable pip squeak named
- 13:52Speaker 1: Gavrilo Princip and there's your kickoff this World War One.
- 13:58Speaker 1: On the other hand, after Clause von Staufenberg failed to
- 14:01Speaker 1: kill Hitler in nineteen forty four, the war continued and
- 14:04Speaker 1: millions more died. Al said, there's nothing we can do
- 14:08Speaker 1: about that. Archie Duke Ferdinand and Adolph Hitler. They're out
- 14:12Speaker 1: of our reach because they can only go back to
- 14:15Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, right, And Jake is saying, I thought
- 14:23Speaker 1: of accusing him of making pronounal assumptions and kept my
- 14:26Speaker 1: mouth shut. I felt like a man reading a very
- 14:29Speaker 1: grim book. Thomas Hardy novels say you know how it's
- 14:33Speaker 1: going to end, but instead of spoiling things that somehow
- 14:36Speaker 1: increases your fascination, It's like watching a kid run his
- 14:40Speaker 1: electric train faster and faster and waiting for it to
- 14:42Speaker 1: derail on one of the curves. As for nine to eleven,
- 14:47Speaker 1: if you want to fix that one, you'll have to
- 14:48Speaker 1: wait around in the other world for forty three years.
- 14:57Speaker 1: So if you want to change, if you want to
- 14:58Speaker 1: make nine to eleven not happen, ever, you could go
- 15:01Speaker 1: back to nineteen fifty eight, but you would have to
- 15:04Speaker 1: stay alive long enough in that world for forty three
- 15:07Speaker 1: years until nine to eleven happens in two thousand and one.
- 15:11Speaker 1: We're supposed to happen.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. And following who.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Says, you'd be pushing eighty if you made it at all,
- 15:19Speaker 1: and he says, now the lone star flag Thenome had
- 15:21Speaker 1: been holding outside of our's house made sense. It was
- 15:25Speaker 1: a souvenir of his last jahnt into the past. You
- 15:29Speaker 1: couldn't even make it to sixty three, now, could you,
- 15:32Speaker 1: Because our is sick, Al is going to die. Al
- 15:35Speaker 1: has cancer, and he's tried a couple times to go
- 15:39Speaker 1: back and change the outcome of the JFK assassination. But
- 15:44Speaker 1: every time he's tried, he's failed. It still happens, and
- 15:50Speaker 1: now in the real world he's dying. So this is
- 15:53Speaker 1: why he's telling Jake about this, and he wants Jake
- 15:55Speaker 1: to continue to try to change history. And he says
- 16:03Speaker 1: to this, He didn't reply. He just watched me. His eyes,
- 16:06Speaker 1: which had the look of roomy in vague when he
- 16:08Speaker 1: let me into the diner that afternoon, now look bright
- 16:11Speaker 1: and almost young. Because that's what you're talking about, right
- 16:14Speaker 1: Dallas in nineteen sixty three. Ali says, that's right. I
- 16:19Speaker 1: had to opt out. But you're not sick, buddy, You're
- 16:21Speaker 1: healthy and in the prime of your life. You can
- 16:23Speaker 1: go back and you can stop it. He leaned forward,
- 16:27Speaker 1: his eyes not just bright, but they were blazing. You
- 16:31Speaker 1: can change history, Jake, Do you understand that? John Kennedy
- 16:36Speaker 1: can live. So this is how the main character, Jake
- 16:46Speaker 1: gets sold on this mission, right because he's not really
- 16:52Speaker 1: missing out anything here. Every time he leaves and comes back,
- 16:55Speaker 1: it's been two minutes, right, so he's not really fucking
- 16:58Speaker 1: his life up here right now. Of course, there has
- 17:03Speaker 1: to be a story within the story within a story
- 17:05Speaker 1: within a story with Stephen King. Okay, there's, like I said,
- 17:09Speaker 1: there's multiple layers to all this. So of course he
- 17:13Speaker 1: goes back and he meets Sadie, this beautiful blonde and
- 17:23Speaker 1: falls in love with her. But every time he has
- 17:27Speaker 1: to come back, like something will happen where he goes
- 17:31Speaker 1: back and he tries, you know, because he has was
- 17:36Speaker 1: it basically almost a little over four years between September
- 17:41Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight and November sixty three, yea, to alter
- 17:46Speaker 1: the course of history.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Now.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Of course, Lee Harvey Oswald does not even return to
- 17:53Speaker 1: the United States until nineteen sixty two, yep, June. While
- 18:00Speaker 1: there he has time to formulate a plan to figure
- 18:05Speaker 1: out how he can derail.
- 18:06Speaker 2: This, but about three years ish.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like something always happens, and there's a
- 18:16Speaker 1: theme of time always fighting back in this movie or
- 18:20Speaker 1: this this book, you know, like like time doesn't want it,
- 18:25Speaker 1: or you know, time doesn't want to change, like it
- 18:28Speaker 1: will fight you back and it will try to derail
- 18:31Speaker 1: your efforts. Right, And of course he meets his check
- 18:36Speaker 1: and he falls in love with her. But every time
- 18:38Speaker 1: he goes back, everything resets, so he has to meet
- 18:43Speaker 1: her again. He has to get her to fall in
- 18:46Speaker 1: love with him again. But of course that is easier
- 18:48Speaker 1: every time because every time he goes back, the more
- 18:51Speaker 1: he knows about her. He knows her favorite flowers, her
- 18:55Speaker 1: favorite flag fragrances, or favorite foods, or favorite.
- 18:59Speaker 2: What's that Adam's Sandler movie? Was it Fifty First Dates?
- 19:03Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it kind of reminds me of that a
- 19:05Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, something like that, something like that, something
- 19:09Speaker 1: like that. So you have these multiple tracks going in
- 19:16Speaker 1: this book, along with a social commentary and of course
- 19:24Speaker 1: the thought process of what life would be like in
- 19:28Speaker 1: the world, not just the United States, but in the
- 19:32Speaker 1: world had John Kennedy lived, Had he lived, would his
- 19:37Speaker 1: brother have been killed? Would Martin Luther King have been killed?
- 19:41Speaker 2: That's a really good question, something I honestly contemplate a lot,
- 19:46Speaker 2: and I know you do too.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, would the Cold War have lasted into
- 19:52Speaker 1: the nineties. You know, how would life be different, not
- 19:57Speaker 1: just in our daily lives, but for the good of
- 20:01Speaker 1: the world. You know, we always have this fan or
- 20:05Speaker 1: fairy tale image of Camelot and how great John Kennedy
- 20:10Speaker 1: was as a leader, and how he could have changed
- 20:13Speaker 1: the world and it would be a much better place
- 20:15Speaker 1: than it is now. But is that reality? Would that
- 20:21Speaker 1: have happened? Would he have been become a beloved president,
- 20:27Speaker 1: ran for a second term? Would then his brother his
- 20:31Speaker 1: brother have ran for president and had two terms? Yeah,
- 20:37Speaker 1: it's crazy to think about.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Teddy too wanted to run until.
- 20:41Speaker 1: The child right, Yeah, I mean it's crazy how.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Much iful left. Yeah, the dynasty could have lasted kind of.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Yeah, if our country had the right leadership and been
- 20:54Speaker 1: on the right trajectory to lead the world instead of
- 20:58Speaker 1: dividing it and the bullshit we have now with you know,
- 21:05Speaker 1: religion and intelligence services and everything trying to divide us,
- 21:12Speaker 1: could they have united us? You know, And that theme
- 21:16Speaker 1: is explored in the book, and it doesn't always turn
- 21:22Speaker 1: out right, you know. I don't want to give too
- 21:26Speaker 1: much of the plot of the book away, But again,
- 21:29Speaker 1: if you haven't read it, by now you should so
- 21:34Speaker 1: believe me. These themes are examined and taken into consideration
- 21:42Speaker 1: and explored thoroughly. As for time travel aspects, there's there's,
- 21:49Speaker 1: of course, different kinds of time travel. Stephen King, I
- 21:54Speaker 1: believe he said he started writing this book in nineteen
- 21:57Speaker 1: seventy two, he got fourteen he pages into it and
- 22:01Speaker 1: quit because it was just too daunting of a task
- 22:05Speaker 1: to wrap his mind around at the time of how
- 22:09Speaker 1: the world could possibly have changed, you know, and without
- 22:13Speaker 1: the benefit of hindsight being twenty twenty. Writing the book
- 22:17Speaker 1: when he did in the early two thousands he gave
- 22:20Speaker 1: him a better perspective. And of course he was working
- 22:23Speaker 1: at the time in the early seventies, so he didn't
- 22:27Speaker 1: have a lot of time to research a lot of
- 22:29Speaker 1: the stuff that he would have needed to to get
- 22:32Speaker 1: the book right back then. So I'm glad he waited
- 22:37Speaker 1: a little bit to do it. And I don't know, Joe,
- 22:44Speaker 1: I just and of course how it ends. I mean,
- 22:48Speaker 1: Stephen King, I believe the way he does things is
- 22:53Speaker 1: I don't know that he always knows how his book
- 22:55Speaker 1: is going to end. I think he mentions somewhere in
- 22:59Speaker 1: the afterward that his son actually helped him change the
- 23:03Speaker 1: end of the novel due to time travel paradoxes or something.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Kind of like our weekly episodes.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think he writes like two, three or
- 23:18Speaker 1: four novels at the same time, and when he gets
- 23:21Speaker 1: stuck or when he's in a bad place on one
- 23:24Speaker 1: of them, he'll move over and start writing another one, right,
- 23:30Speaker 1: you know, and then when he gets stuck on that one,
- 23:31Speaker 1: he'll stop until he has a good idea and then
- 23:34Speaker 1: go back to something else. So I think that's how
- 23:37Speaker 1: he writes, right. And you know, a book as complex
- 23:43Speaker 1: as this, I don't think you would need like a
- 23:47Speaker 1: gigantic whiteboard to chart this thing out. Should the flow
- 23:50Speaker 1: chart for this book? So to me, it was pretty,
- 23:55Speaker 1: you know, pretty impressive to see how he interwove everything,
- 24:01Speaker 1: explored a lot of options, and then tied everything together
- 24:04Speaker 1: at the end and gives us this classic love story ending.
- 24:14Speaker 1: But with that being said, Joe, let's hear your thoughts
- 24:17Speaker 1: about it and your rating, sir.
- 24:19Speaker 2: All right, so I say this every week. This is
- 24:23Speaker 2: going to be a hard one to rate. I'm just
- 24:26Speaker 2: going to read something from the afterwards section. He goes
- 24:29Speaker 2: Ruby was heartsick at the thought of Jackie having to
- 24:32Speaker 2: return to Dallas for Oswald's trial. The widow would become
- 24:36Speaker 2: a national spectacle, he said, her grief would be used
- 24:39Speaker 2: to sell tabloids. Of course, the irony there is how
- 24:44Speaker 2: many thousand books have been written about the JFK assassination
- 24:46Speaker 2: since unless, of course, Lee Harvey Oswald came down with
- 24:51Speaker 2: a bad case of the deads. The assassin died at
- 24:54Speaker 2: Parkland skipping a little Parkland shortly without making a statement,
- 24:59Speaker 2: thanks to a strip who needed twenty five bucks and
- 25:02Speaker 2: a half assed show boat. Of course, referring to Ruby,
- 25:07Speaker 2: so he's obviously landed on the low nut side. He did,
- 25:10Speaker 2: you know, go to all the locations and go to
- 25:16Speaker 2: Dallas for his research and stuff like that. And I
- 25:20Speaker 2: think I was watching one of his interviews on this
- 25:23Speaker 2: book that he hopes that it would bring some people
- 25:27Speaker 2: into the JFK assassination milieu. Right, So if that's the case,
- 25:33Speaker 2: and listen, it's it's fiction, which of course factors into
- 25:37Speaker 2: the rating, and it explores explores all the themes that
- 25:43Speaker 2: that you just eloquently talked about, themes of fate, consequences
- 25:47Speaker 2: of altering history. Shit, I'd love to have a time
- 25:51Speaker 2: machine behind me and go back and be chilling behind
- 25:55Speaker 2: the pick of fence, you know what I mean, and
- 25:57Speaker 2: love and you know it's it's there's a lot of
- 26:02Speaker 2: depth and layers to it, like you said, And I
- 26:08Speaker 2: don't really know where to land on it, man, I
- 26:10Speaker 2: think I'm just listen. It really depends on your preference
- 26:15Speaker 2: if this is your type of thing. It's not a
- 26:19Speaker 2: JFK research book obviously, So if you're like most of
- 26:24Speaker 2: our listeners and our document nerds, probably isn't the book
- 26:27Speaker 2: for you. But is it entertaining. Of course, if you
- 26:35Speaker 2: prefer the Hulu version with you know, James Franco, that
- 26:41Speaker 2: could be preferable to some people with their preferences. So
- 26:46Speaker 2: I don't know where to land. I'm going to land
- 26:49Speaker 2: right in the middle. Five thumbs up.
- 26:55Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Joe. Well let's see here. I mean,
- 27:04Speaker 1: it's a Stephen King book, folks. It can be heavy
- 27:07Speaker 1: at times, it can be complicated at times, and I
- 27:14Speaker 1: think he balances everything involved in this, including the love story,
- 27:20Speaker 1: including time travel, and including real historical events that happened,
- 27:26Speaker 1: real historical people into his interpretation of if we could
- 27:36Speaker 1: go back and save JFK. What would happen, you know,
- 27:43Speaker 1: And I think this book does a great job of
- 27:48Speaker 1: illustrating what we call the butterfly effect or chaos theory,
- 27:53Speaker 1: how one simple small thing could change everything, and not
- 28:01Speaker 1: always for the better. Again, this is not JFK research
- 28:09Speaker 1: book reviews. This is JFK book reviews. It's just a
- 28:12Speaker 1: book about JFK. And it happens to be the subject
- 28:15Speaker 1: matter of this book, so it can it combines for
- 28:19Speaker 1: me two of my favorite genres, which is Stephen King
- 28:24Speaker 1: and eleven sixty three. Now I get there is some
- 28:31Speaker 1: facts wrong in this book. You know, of course, there's
- 28:34Speaker 1: going to be blatant research mistakes. Stephen King is not
- 28:40Speaker 1: a JFK researcher by any stretch of the imagination. He
- 28:44Speaker 1: doesn't have the time, okay, And I get it. Yeah,
- 28:48Speaker 1: So he's only as good as who he's reading and
- 28:51Speaker 1: where he's getting his information from, you know, people helping him,
- 28:55Speaker 1: you know, research things. And I get it. You know,
- 29:00Speaker 1: these things are not going to always be caught in
- 29:02Speaker 1: the editorial process. And there are some factual inaccuracies in here,
- 29:08Speaker 1: but again it's work of fiction, so you just have
- 29:11Speaker 1: to take that for what it is, you know, It's
- 29:18Speaker 1: not the first novel to explore time travel. When it
- 29:23Speaker 1: comes to the jfk assassination, it's not the first movie
- 29:29Speaker 1: to do so either. You know, these these are just
- 29:36Speaker 1: fantasy questions in one's mind. If we could have if
- 29:43Speaker 1: we can go back in time, if we could save
- 29:47Speaker 1: JFK from being killed that day, but he only got
- 29:52Speaker 1: killed two weeks after that, you know, that would be
- 29:55Speaker 1: like the ultimate bummer, you know what I mean, Like
- 29:58Speaker 1: you saved him that day, but they get him two
- 30:00Speaker 1: weeks from now. Now you got to go back to
- 30:02Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight start all over again. Price You know
- 30:09Speaker 1: these these It's fun in my brain is how I
- 30:13Speaker 1: can describe this book. It's fun in my brain. I
- 30:17Speaker 1: enjoyed it to me with everything wrapped into it and
- 30:28Speaker 1: for it being what it is, Joe, a fictional take
- 30:35Speaker 1: on a time travel you know, historical perspective. To me,
- 30:46Speaker 1: it is a thick masterpiece In doing so so, I'm
- 30:57Speaker 1: going to give this book ten guns up.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Our first ten.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Wow.
- 31:14Speaker 2: And I respect that. Uh, It's just that the genre
- 31:18Speaker 2: genre isn't for me personally, which is of course why
- 31:22Speaker 2: we differ on our book reviews and leave it to
- 31:24Speaker 2: the listener to you know, decide if you want to
- 31:27Speaker 2: read it or not. But I respect it, sir, I do. Yeah.
- 31:31Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not into science fiction shit, if
- 31:33Speaker 1: you're not into Stephen King really and reading, like you
- 31:36Speaker 1: can watch the Stephen King movie, but you need to
- 31:39Speaker 1: read the dude, read it because it's way different than
- 31:43Speaker 1: the movies. And if you're not into the way he writes,
- 31:48Speaker 1: and you're not into science fiction or time travel or
- 31:51Speaker 1: paradoxes or you know, theories and all this other crazy shit,
- 31:56Speaker 1: like this is like the perfect storm for me to
- 31:58Speaker 1: read this book because it's it comes as everything that
- 32:00Speaker 1: I did. Stephen King is writing a science fiction time
- 32:03Speaker 1: travel novel about JFK. Fucking take my money, take my
- 32:11Speaker 1: fucking money. You got it. You got it not once, twice,
- 32:16Speaker 1: and I bought the series on Hulu on Blu ray
- 32:19Speaker 1: you got it three times. And now I'm giving you
- 32:23Speaker 1: more because I'm hyping this book here on YouTube and
- 32:26Speaker 1: telling you to get it read it. And if you're
- 32:30Speaker 1: into the same kind of shit, you won't be disappointed.
- 32:32Speaker 1: If you're like Joe, maybe you will be. I don't know.
- 32:37Speaker 1: But again, this is what makes us different people. We
- 32:40Speaker 1: have different opinions and that's it for this one. And
- 32:44Speaker 1: if you like this book review, folks, make sure to
- 32:47Speaker 1: tune in here on YouTube every Friday night at seven
- 32:50Speaker 1: pm where we live stream a show all about our
- 32:55Speaker 1: investigation into the murder of John F. Kennedy. And we
- 33:01Speaker 1: also do a live show on Wednesday nights at seven
- 33:03Speaker 1: pm for our channel members only, exclusively just for them.
- 33:10Speaker 1: So in the meantime, check out an older book review,
- 33:14Speaker 1: check out our podcast playlist over here, and we'll see
- 33:19Speaker 1: you next time here on JFK Book Reviews. Until then,
- 33:23Speaker 1: pup up, up, up up up peace.
- 33:26Speaker 2: Thank you everyone,