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Hammer Territory X Mets’d Up: Sale, Baldwin, Braves-Mets preview · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Everyone's episode five nine of the Hemor Territory Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brad Rowland, coming to you on a
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday evening here in the early portion of March, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined as I often am almost always im honestly,
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  Speaker 1: by my co host.
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  Speaker 2: His name is Scott Coleman. Hello, sir, how are you hey, Brad?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing really well. We are three weeks away from
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  Speaker 2: opening day, which is exciting. I don't know about you.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like the month of January was the longest
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  Speaker 2: month in the history of mankind, and then the month
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  Speaker 2: of February just flew by, like seriously flew by. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like players were showing up to spring training two
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  Speaker 2: minutes ago, and now we are already into almost a
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  Speaker 2: full week in the March. Real baseball will be here
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  Speaker 2: before we know it, and we have a really good
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  Speaker 2: show lined up today.
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  Speaker 3: Yes we do.
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  Speaker 1: And in a moment we'll be joined by half of
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  Speaker 1: the Mets Up duo, our arch nemesis. I would say,
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  Speaker 1: brace fans don't like the Mets, I get it, but
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  Speaker 1: there are colleagues at fold Territory, at Mets Up, so
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  Speaker 1: Jays will be joining us momentary. We kind of do
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  Speaker 1: a preview of the Mets in some respects kind of
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  Speaker 1: a know your opponent kind of segment. Brace fans will
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  Speaker 1: be interested in the Mets for good or for ill.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We're ringing against to us all year alone, but they'll
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  Speaker 1: be interested in the Mets after they literally, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: spoiler alert, they tied last year of the state. It
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  Speaker 1: could not have been closer with the Braves and the
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  Speaker 1: Mets a year ago, save record all that stuff. We're also,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, part of Fold Territory, and please subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to our podcast. You can find us here at Hammer
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  Speaker 1: Territory anywhere you find your podcast. We are covering the
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  Speaker 1: Braves year round. That is our focus on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But no days off for us and here we owe again,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time for Debn and the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of news not a tone going on.
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  Speaker 1: The Bridge actually had an off day today, rare spring
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  Speaker 1: off day as a recording this podcast on Wednesday evening.
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  Speaker 1: But Tuesday made of news and mostly I would say
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  Speaker 1: it was tied to the duo of Chris Sale who
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  Speaker 1: beat Raining SIGHTNG winner who pitched the second time It's
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  Speaker 1: print training on Tuesday, and he was caught for the
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  Speaker 1: first time ever by probably the most, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: biggest topic of all Drake Baldwin after the injury to
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  Speaker 1: Sean Murphy, which our colleagues Stephen and Sean ablely broke
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  Speaker 1: down on the podcast on Monday evening, the reaction to
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  Speaker 1: Murphy being out four to six weeks, all of that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: which kind of lines up. It seems like Baldwin to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the guy in the mix for the Braves
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  Speaker 1: as the starting catcher as soon as opening day or maybe,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how that goes. Scott, what was
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  Speaker 1: your reaction to this? There was some interesting quotes that
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  Speaker 1: you pulled from Chris Sale also Sale it was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of this too, But that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: the honestly the lead story and almost the only story
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  Speaker 1: from Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: As we kind of suspected Drake Baldwin is I think
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  Speaker 2: now very probable to be the opening day catcher.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you feel differently.
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  Speaker 2: But that was kind of the immediate messaging from those
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  Speaker 2: around the team. And then the fact that twenty four
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  Speaker 2: hours after it's an that Sean Murphy has the correct
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  Speaker 2: rib that Drake Baldwin is catching Chris Sale and health willing.
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  Speaker 2: That very much seems like the opening day battery to me,
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  Speaker 2: and it really just kind of emphasized the point of
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  Speaker 2: we don't necessarily know exactly what the next six to
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  Speaker 2: seven eight months are going to hold for the Braves
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  Speaker 2: at the catcher position, but one way or another, I'm
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  Speaker 2: pretty confident at this point that Drake Baldwin is going
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  Speaker 2: to play a role of some kind. I think my
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  Speaker 2: guess is that he's going to catch pretty much every
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  Speaker 2: day to begin the season, and then once Sean Murphy
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  Speaker 2: comes back, it will be Murphy's job, just as we
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  Speaker 2: suspect it as of a week ago, and then the
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  Speaker 2: Braves really will just kind of take it week by
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  Speaker 2: week and day by day and just kind of see
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  Speaker 2: where everything's at. And if Murphy's having a good season,
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  Speaker 2: it's a non issue at all. Because Murphy's having a
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  Speaker 2: great bounce back year. And if Murphy's struggling again as
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  Speaker 2: he really did last season, you have a presumably bigly
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  Speaker 2: g ready catcher who is going to get a little
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  Speaker 2: taste the majors and we will see how it all
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  Speaker 2: shakes out. But in my mind, at least this almost
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  Speaker 2: feels like a non problem because you have two good
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  Speaker 2: to great options to play backstop for the team this year.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it's sarting not a huge problem. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Shawan see talking about this a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit too.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to really get all of that, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is of the positions that the Braves
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  Speaker 1: could have lost someone that was.
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  Speaker 3: One of their regulars.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the better ones. Not because Murphy's
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  Speaker 1: not good and there's this narrative that I won't I
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  Speaker 1: won't yell about too much right now that Sean Murphy's
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  Speaker 1: like this terrible player and I don't agree with that,
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  Speaker 1: but put him out to inside and all of the
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  Speaker 1: metrics that exist for that. Baldwin is as we discussed
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  Speaker 1: with with Gore of last week when he was on
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  Speaker 1: the show, Baldwin is clear with our number one prospect
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  Speaker 1: and he is a guy that they think can stick
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  Speaker 1: a catcher and that combination. By the way, also, if
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  Speaker 1: onar of this out, I think people were surprised by it,
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  Speaker 1: even when I said it online. Drake Baldwin is going
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  Speaker 1: to turn twenty four years old in three weeks basically,
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  Speaker 1: and that surprised people. I don't know why. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's because like he's the new hot shot, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like he's actually older than you think. The example that
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  Speaker 1: I gave was that he and Michael Harris are basically
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  Speaker 1: the exact same age. They were born in the same
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  Speaker 1: month of the same year, and Michael Harris, it's been
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  Speaker 1: our lives for so long it feels like that's not possible.
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  Speaker 1: But Baldwin is probably, you know, more polished than a
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  Speaker 1: typical Quoe unquote prospect that's supposed to be that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing. Age is not everything, but that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: his rep more than anything. It's like not necessarily the
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  Speaker 1: most sky high upsides, but a very projectable skill set
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  Speaker 1: for Drake Balwin and him being there. And look, I'll
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  Speaker 1: let you deliver the quote in full, but Chris Sale
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  Speaker 1: basically talking openly on the record about how Drake Baldwin
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  Speaker 1: is essentially going to be in a big role. Like
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  Speaker 1: he didn't say it exactly like that, But there was
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  Speaker 1: no hiding from Chris Sale, who's not really a hider anyway.
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  Speaker 1: He's a very frank guy. But I thought the Braves
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  Speaker 1: aren't even really trying to spin it as if they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to play Baldwin. And look, they're not. They're
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  Speaker 1: not announcing that, and I as I would have Shawn
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  Speaker 1: Stephen gave the caveyall like, hey, the Braves could could
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  Speaker 1: still just be like, you know what, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: with Trump at Casally or something like that for two
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  Speaker 1: weeks and see what happens. I guess they could, man,
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  Speaker 1: but it would surprise me, So you team me up earlier.
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  Speaker 1: It would surprise me, especially with what they've said on
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  Speaker 1: the record. The fact that Baldwin is not a nineteen
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  Speaker 1: year old, like the service time stuff that you would
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  Speaker 1: consider maybe is not something I would worry about too
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  Speaker 1: much for a guy who's that age already. Yeah, all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff to say, like, I think it's his job,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, and it's not a it's not a
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  Speaker 1: prop I mean catches a spot where you do need
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  Speaker 1: two guys, and there maybe is a decision they have
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  Speaker 1: to make in late April if Baldwin is not tearing
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  Speaker 1: the cover off the ball, Murphy comes back and Murphy
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  Speaker 1: is Murphy in Capitol letters. Do you have Baldwin b
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  Speaker 1: that's be the thirty percent part of a catching platoon,
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  Speaker 1: or do you have him go back to miners for
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  Speaker 1: a while that's a decision they might have to make,
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  Speaker 1: but like in the grand scheme of things, not a
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  Speaker 1: big deal honestly.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean getting a couple of weeks for
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  Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin to get his feet wet in the majors.
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  Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing it going poorly.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, maybe he isn't setting the world on fire. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he goes three for twenty and then Murphy gets healthy
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  Speaker 2: and then they say, you know what, Drake right, nothing
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  Speaker 2: has changed long term, brother, get down and Gwinnette play
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  Speaker 2: every day, manage a pretty decent pitching staff, which is
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  Speaker 2: something that I know folks around the team have said
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  Speaker 2: that pitchers really like throwing to Drake. And two good
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  Speaker 2: quotes here from Chris Sale. As you said a moment ago,
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  Speaker 2: very much a straight shooter. Sale said, quote, He's got
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  Speaker 2: an unbelievable work ethic, great routine, great attitude, and he's
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  Speaker 2: around the right guys. That's what you want from someone
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  Speaker 2: stepping into such a crucial role. He's asking the right
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  Speaker 2: questions and doing all the right things. And then Sale
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  Speaker 2: also added about Drake Baldwin, I thought he looked great
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  Speaker 2: back there, never overwhelmed, never overmatched. He was locked in
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  Speaker 2: and that was a lot of fun end quote. It's
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  Speaker 2: pretty ringing endorsement for a guy who is coming off
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  Speaker 2: to cy young and has been around for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: has thrown to a lot of catchers, and hey, in
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  Speaker 2: a perfect world, Baldwin is so good the first couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks, and then Sean Murphy comes back, and Murphy
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  Speaker 2: looks really good too, and the Braves have a decision
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  Speaker 2: to make of what are we going to do? Do
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  Speaker 2: we go to a fifty to fifty split, do we
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  Speaker 2: try to work in one of these guys at d H.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who knows, Brad.
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  Speaker 2: I think, as is usually the case, these things work
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  Speaker 2: themselves out over the course of a season and we'll
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  Speaker 2: have some clarity probably by mid April, once Murphy comes back.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And it's it's kind of funny and not in
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  Speaker 1: the haha way, but both on the show that I
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  Speaker 1: did with GOREV and the previous show before Murphy Injury
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  Speaker 1: that Sean and Steven did, we both discussed the Casher
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  Speaker 1: scenario basically, like what do you do with Baltwin before
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  Speaker 1: the Murphy injury? Like it was already in the in
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  Speaker 1: the ether because Baldwin got anointed as the number one
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  Speaker 1: guy in the system and all these things. So it's
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  Speaker 1: already been out there. Look, Murphy, Murphy taking a fastball
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  Speaker 1: to the ribs and getting injured is like something that
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  Speaker 1: happens in baseball at the time, beings brutal after he
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  Speaker 1: had bat tiast the last year he did, he had
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  Speaker 1: a battist Like we've been accused of being too nice
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  Speaker 1: to Sean Murphy. I mean, he wasn't good last year.
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  Speaker 1: We pointed that out at nauseum. I think that was
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  Speaker 1: fair to say. I also don't think that erases his
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  Speaker 1: entire career with body of work to that point. Both
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  Speaker 1: things can be true at the same time. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of where I stand on Murphy. And look, if he's
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  Speaker 1: bad this year, as I think we've said in this
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  Speaker 1: podcast many times, it's a different conversation. If you if
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  Speaker 1: he has two bag years in a row, then it's
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  Speaker 1: a different situation.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're not there yet though, So that's that's where
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  Speaker 1: we are. But yeah, you know, all in all, the
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  Speaker 1: Braves are more equipped than basically any team could possibly
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  Speaker 1: be to have their starting catcher go down on whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was March second. And the way that Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: Did, and thankfully it's well, I'm not going to pretend
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  Speaker 2: that a cracked rib probably doesn't hurt like hell, but
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  Speaker 2: oh it does.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna assure you it does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there is a lot of discomfort and
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  Speaker 2: all that. At least it's just a bone, it's not
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  Speaker 2: a soft tissue thing. I mean again, I'm not a doctor,
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  Speaker 2: but I would be shocked if there's any kind of
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  Speaker 2: reaggravation risk.
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  Speaker 3: Short of getting hit by a pitch.
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  Speaker 1: Again, it's not an oblique It's nothing like that where
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna linger for months and months.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually brought that up. It's a key distinction. Our
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  Speaker 1: guy Justice is kind of kind of made fun of
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  Speaker 1: somebody by this on Twitter, Like some of said he
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  Speaker 1: was like, Murphy's made a glass.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, if you've seen Sean Murphy, he's not. He's
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  Speaker 2: not made of glass.
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  Speaker 1: He's a finely tuned professional athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Kids.
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  Speaker 1: But alas, and look, we didn't know what happened.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I talked about on the show was the
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  Speaker 1: other day, but no one knew what happened. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they they covered everybody was there the beat guys were there,
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  Speaker 1: No one talked about it, and then it hit on
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  Speaker 1: It hits on Monday morning, three days later, and nobody
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  Speaker 1: had any idea. So spring training. Man, oh oh, before
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  Speaker 1: we sign off and go to James, I got to
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  Speaker 1: tee you up for this. People are really mad at
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: you because we opened the show last time we did
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  Speaker 1: a show together by talking about the about no injuries,
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  Speaker 1: and people were like.
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  Speaker 3: Accusing us of manifesting.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say, in your defense, as I said online,
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  Speaker 1: already injury already happened. We just didn't know it yet.
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  Speaker 1: But we talked on Sunday, it happened on Friday. So
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  Speaker 1: I think you're off the hook. That's that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. We do a lot of podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: We try not to tempt the baseball gods by jinxing
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  Speaker 2: things and just unfortunate.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I feel for Murphy. I mean, he seems like a
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  Speaker 2: good dude. He's he's a quiet guy. He's not a big, raw,
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  Speaker 2: raw behind the scenes type. But yeah, man, getting hit
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  Speaker 2: by a ninety five mile an hour fastball into the
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  Speaker 2: ribs that doesn't make you injury prone. It means you
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  Speaker 2: got hit by a wild pitch. There's nothing he could
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  Speaker 2: have done. It'd be like blaming Austin Riley for breaking
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  Speaker 2: his wrist or his hand last year when he got
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  Speaker 2: hit by a ninety seven fastball. It you know, shit happens, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it is. And I really do
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  Speaker 2: hope for the Braves benefit that Murphy has a good
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  Speaker 2: season ahead of him. Let's get him back to the
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  Speaker 2: all star level catcher that he was with Oakland and
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  Speaker 2: even in his first season with Atlanta. And even if
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't happen, even if he's just okay or if
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  Speaker 2: he struggles again, the Braves are in a good spot
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  Speaker 2: overall with Drake Baldwin waiting in the wings.
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  Speaker 1: That is a good way. And the segment Scott Well said,
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  Speaker 1: after a short break to hear from our sponsors on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast today, we'll be back with Jennifer metst Up
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  Speaker 1: and a full preview of the basically know your opponent,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Know your rival kind of segment about the New York Mets.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are now joined by James Chano. One half.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just said the better half of this podcast up
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  Speaker 1: messed up. I wouldn't say I went to that on
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  Speaker 1: your show, but since you're the only one here with us. James,
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  Speaker 1: we appreciate you doing this. How's it going up there?
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  Speaker 1: And I know you're all over the place doing previous
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: stuff like we are it springs creating what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, mean's great. I just can't wait. Baseball is like
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: officially fully in the air, like the fact that spring
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: training is in full swing. We have two weeks until
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: the Tokyo Games. Like it's a fish really starting to
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: feel real. I know, you guys don't have to deal
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: with this, but it's getting a tiny bit warmer in
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: New York, so that's kind of also brings the big
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: bit more. But it's exciting. I'm so I'm so freaking
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: excited for this season.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in particular, Scott is stopt to deal with that.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Scott's in Arizona, where it's never cold. I would assume
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: maybe never, but you know, not really in any meaningful way.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: But no, you're here. We're gonna talk Mets for the
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: most part, Braves Fans of course, as you well know,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: do not like the Mets so but at the same time,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: they are rivals, and it's probably a modicum of respect
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: for the Mets that we're doing this because the Mets
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: are They're good and that's the reality of situation. Braves, Mets,
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: Phillies are kind of the three teams. It seems like
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: an in the mix of the nationallygue east. Of course,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: last year than Mets made, the NLCS went farther than
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: the Braves did. I guess we'll start here. What's the
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: overall vibe for the Mets right now? They got one
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  Speaker 1: So and one Sodos there. That's kind of a big
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of a big deal. I would imagine what's
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: what's going on around the Mets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the vibe is led by the fact
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: that Wan So is with this team every single day
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: and just like you could feel the like an added
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: level of like one excitement, two pressure and three kind
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: of the the not the burn of expectations, but the
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: understanding of expectations so far that this team is now
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  Speaker 3: even though he made the NLC lost last year and
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: a run that was pretty just kind of more based
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: on like fund and friendship and teamwork rather than like
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: actual skill, talent and baseball, which that was a big
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: part of your guys season two. But it's there's there's
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: something that's now more supposed to happen where there's like
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: again like the where the expectations come into this, like
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  Speaker 3: we are now. We took the Yankees decond best player.
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  Speaker 3: We took one of the best players in baseball off
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: of the crosstown rivals. Like there's there's eyeballs on us
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: that have never been on us before. Jeff Passive tweeting
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: by the new weekly basis and you turned us almost
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: every single day, Like there's there's kind of a new
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: air to what it means to be a Mets fan,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: met player, met content creator right now that wasn't really
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: ever here in the past.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: And like, I'm curious to get your take, James, because
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: the one Sodo deal, Like, look, man, you have to
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: do whatever you have to do to sign a player
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: of that talent. But there was a lot of interesting
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: discourse I thought when the Sodo sweepstakes were kind of
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: winding down such a massive contract, and I mean, I
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: get it, it's hard to plan out a professional sports
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: franchise even one or two years down the road, but
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: you know, ten fifteen years from now. I mean, I'm
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: sure there was a lot of excitement with the fan base.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: What was just kind of the overall if if you
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: had to summarize the Met the fallout with Mets fans
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: with with Sodo signing.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Uh, euphoria bliss Like as again me coming from a
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Met fan, Nick fan, jetfan, Ranger fan taking out my
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Ohio State alumnus out of this. This was one of
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: the better sporting moments of my professional sport watching career.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Like that's pretty sad to say, it's literally embarrassing, but
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: I've never had a professional sports championship. I've only had
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: one two professional sport. Two professional sports teams make the championship.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: This was a moment where I celebrate with my co
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: hosts on the show Draft like Mark Mark Luino, we
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: freaked out. We had a full on like episode, Like
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: we went out to my friend's bar and at Sunday night, Brooklyn,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: and we lost our minds, like we were screaming and
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: jumping and dancing with people like and again like that's
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: pretty sad, like lol Mets, But this is one of
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: the best players in the league and he chose to
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: play with us. We offer him a lot of money
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: to convince him to do that, and plenty of perks
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: along with that. But he's one of the few players
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: in major League baseball, that just elevates everyone, Like you
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: don't really hear that about the sport like baseball. You
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: hear that about point guards and basketball. You hear that
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: about quarterbacks and football, hear that about good players in hockey.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: You don't really hear the ever that a baseball player
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: can elevate everybody. But he's that good of a hither,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: he's that complete of a hither, he's that young, he's
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: that dynamic that every single player in this team is
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: going together off for it. So it was it was
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: a moment that kind of hopefully becomes like a real
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: stake in the ground for Mets fans, a moment we
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: could be like things changed on that Sunday, nineth December
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: when that happened. We joked heavily about once that are
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: coming to Atlanta, and knowing it it would never actually happen.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: We just didn't want to say that. It was like
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: a zero point zero percent chance. We knew it was
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: not gonna happen. So I'm slightly jealous. This is the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: one time I've read with jealous of the Mets. Was
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: one so being signed by the Mills. Here's the thing.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: We got to get players to stop going to the
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: National League East Harper comes back. I mean, Jay, you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: obviously you're rooting against four of the teams in the East.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I mean it feels like half of the big name
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: free agents anymore, whether it's Bryce Harper, Trey Turner, now
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Juan Soto. Like j I was rooting for pen A
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Lonzo to go somewhere else so we don't have to
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: face him for forty and half every year. I mean,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: it's just the NL East, especially the big three, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I mean even the Nationals if they can hit on
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: a few additions I think in free agency the next
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: couple of years.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not quite the NL West because they have
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: four really good teams and we really just have three.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: But man, I mean this summer the NL East is
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: just going to be brutal, and every night is feel
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: going to be a war when Atlanta, Philly and New
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: York meet up.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's super going to be war. I cannot wait.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I cannot wait as a fan for the games when
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: you guys in the Phillies come to City Field, Like
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: those are going to be special games because we get
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: few of them now with the new balance schedule. But this.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: It really is like kind of the tenor with the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Mets so far ast offseason is that, oh, you guys
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: did all this, You're still the third best team in
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: your division. The third best team in the nlest is
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: still one of the four or five best teams in
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the entire National League. Like, yeah, the ALS, the NLS
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: probably is a little bit deeper. But I think the Braves,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: the Phillies, and the Mets are all better than the Padre.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I think they're all better than Diningbacks and definitely all
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: better than the Giants. Like this is this division, these
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: three teams is truly a three headed monster. I'm not
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the biggest fan of the expanded postseason. Thank god we
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: have it right now, because if this was going to
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: be a fighter gonna make the playoffs, it would truly
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: be a war like of efporic proportions. But it really does.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: It's crazy that we've kind of taken this mantle from
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: the rest of baseball. This is now the best division
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: in baseball. This is this three headed monster. Can't really
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: be replicating in any division across the league.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Scotta should pull this note that I'm gonna steal
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: from him right now and share it back to you
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: because you mentioned the the balance schedule, but the race
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: of mess don't play till June's seventeenth. Yes, it is
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: really weird. They'll play and they they play two series
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and out of three. It's like they have these two
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: clusters of matchups and then it's like nothing before, nothing
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: after this. No, there's no late series this year. There's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: no showdown in September. It's a very odd thing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: It's really really stumper. We play the Marlins, I think
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: either ten or at least seven times before we play you.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: We play entire we go on a West coast trip
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: before we play the Braves. The Mets don't have a Friday,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Saturday or Sunday home game against the Braves or Phillies
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the entire season. You imagine that we two Thursday games
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: against you guys, and that's it for the entire thing,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: which is it makes me so mad as a fan
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: and a resident of New York. I'm going to be
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: into the field forty fifty times this year. It pisses
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: me off. That's the case. But again it's just it
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: goes to show how important those games are going to be.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And of course it's June, so it's a perfect landing
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: spot for you guys to get Spencer Strydan, Ronald the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Cooon your back to full strength. It literally could not
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: line up more perfectly. I guess we'll have an eye
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: at months not the same thing, but it's still hopefully's
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: still just it's it's so annoying the way the schedule
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: works out. But I am, I can't even believe how
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: excited am, Like, what do you guys feel about the
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Mets right now seeing them go on last season? Because
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: last year the way that the season and ended that
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: weird double headed that Monday afternoon where we kind of
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: like everyone shook hands at the end of it, but
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: like nice split. But we had the dramatic win first
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and then you guys had to go to San Diego
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: and we got we got blessed with the Brewers. It
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: still didn't feel like to me, like we really beat
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the Braves because none of the Braves were actually there,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Like we beat half the braves, we beat a couple
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: of the braves. Like what's your guys feeling after the
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: way last season ended and the way this Mets kind
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: of machine has moved since October last year?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I think Brad and I even if we never said
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it officially on the pod. I think when Austin Riley
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: broke his wrist in mid August, we were just like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: you know what, man, you're out of Kunya, You're out Riley.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: All these has been hurt all year. Aj Minter now
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: with the Mets, is out all year. That we know
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that Chris Sale, the Sion winner, was gonna blow his
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: back out the very the last week of the season.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's just, uh, it's just it
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: was just brutal. But I mean the Mets, I you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I think my one question about New York and I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: curious to get your take on the rotation in particular.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You know, I think if baseball had maybe sixteen man rosters,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: are eighteen man rosters. I think New York's eighteen man
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: roster is as good as like anybody's, whether that's Dodgers,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the Yankees and Braves, the Phillies whoever. I do worry
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit about the depth kind of at the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: back end of the rotation, and there were a couple
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: of injuries this spring, but I mean that's I don't know, Brad,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: do you feel do you feel differently that that's.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Kind of my vibe on the Mets right now.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I was at the top end Soto and Lindor,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like two of the top five players in baseball, something
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like that. You got Alonzo, you get you get Alonzo back,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: even though it took a long time because uh, he
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: probably should have taken the extension year ago. I'm sure
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you're thrilled he didn't take the extension at this point
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in time, static work that well for the team. But yeah,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: between those three guys in the lineup, the top end
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of the rotation potentially, Yeah, I'm kind of with you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It's it's a scary top end. But you already jams
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: are you already kind of mentioned the pitching injuries? What
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is there? What is the state of the rotation? I mean,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: we have to ask you that considering the guys that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: are already banged up for the Mets, and it wasn't
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like a weakness coming in, but now down two guys, Like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what do you make of what that's gonna look like?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: It's definitely the weakness of this team. But I think
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: that there's kind of this built budding confidence inside the
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Mess community and among the Mess organization that between David Stearns,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Jeremy Hefner, and Eric Jaegers, the pitching director for the organization.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: There's things are just going to happen. Things will fall right,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: like the way that David Peterson last year shows up
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and has by far the best year's entire career, becomes
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: like a true legitimate mid rotation star. There someone who's
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: been very disappointing for the first half is a rookie contract.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: The way that Koda Sanga developed his rookie year, figuring
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: out the color mid season May June and then taking
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that kind of writhing that to a top five sow
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Young finish the way the last year Sean and I
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: watches Chris Sale pitch against the Mets in the middle
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: of the season and he goes to his pitching coach.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: He's like, hey, can I work on my release point
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: and make it look like that? And he's like, yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: we could do that. Let's do some bullpens, and all
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: of a sudden he comes out the second half and
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: goes ballistic, like there's there again. I wish that these
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: guys weren't injured. I would love seanm and I and
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Frankie Mantis and probably one more picture we've thrown on
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: top of this rotation, but there's just this confidence I
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: can't shake. And guys like Clay Holmes coming to the
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: rotation looks like a beast in spring training. A guy
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: like Tyler McGill being one year behind David Peterson finally
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: kind of finding his moment. A guy like Brandons Broke
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Prospect only one year in the organization as a draftee
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: from twenty twenty three, like coming into the rotation mid
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: season and being someone who we can trust, not as
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: an ace, not as a guy who's gonna take the
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: world by storm, definitely not gonna be a swelling box
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: because that kind of sad, but someone who I know
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: can give us five, six seven innings every fifth, every
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: fifth or sixth day. Like, I think that's kind of
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: the company line right now for the Mets, and I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: think that you're gonna have to get some mintings from
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Blackburn and Canning. They're going to have to give you something.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Every single team probably right now doesn't love their fifth
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and sixth starters, six and seven starters. Unfortunately, the Mets
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: guys is going to have to be in there in April.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: That's kind of the nature of the beast. That's why
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: every team six and seven starters are very, very very important.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: But there's this weird again. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe this
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: is kind of get this, this is like part of
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the one and so of the effect washing away my
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: entire life of Mets fandom. But this, this strange confidence
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: is just like watching over me and I'm I'm okay
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: with the fact that this rotation looks truthfully ugly on
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: paper right now, just based on the effect of who's
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: in charge of it and how well this lineup is
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: supposedly going to support it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I don't let Scott go, but I have to mention
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that you just you just gotta snuck it in there.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: But that's that's.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Braves legend, Griffin Canning, former Braves stand out great Griffin
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Canny who they had for like five minutes and then
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: non tender. But hey, that's that's the same guy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Everybody. Just get off that Hilaire contract, got the half
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: year production, made the playoffs, got rid of him for free,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: like we don't want it, we just really want that
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: was it? Thank you so much?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Brad, what was your favorite moment
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: of the Griffin Canning era.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: They were just.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That that one that one podcast when we talked about
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: whether they're keep him or not, and they that was
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it for different there.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It was a slow winter in Atlanta.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Sadly, let us all hope that Jerks and profar is
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: really good.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Was pretty good? Yeah, I think so.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just the only he's just the only addition
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that the Braves made, James. That's the thing as far
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: as major league real like big time investments.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: He's the He's he's it. That's that's the list. Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: have you guys heard Ronaldacune Junior.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You're adding he's pretty good too. Yeah, I know you're adding.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Him like these are new guys, right technically, wow, you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: You didn't know this, but you just went full chip
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: carry on us. That was We love that on this podcast,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Braves Form Breves rockout. He was a big fan of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the addition by injury comeback as like this is better
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: than a trade. That was that was a chip curious
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and that you dropped off, which I appreciate.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Audition by nothing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Speaking of players who left Atlanta and now is with
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the Mets, aj Minter just an awesome, awesome reliever for
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: this team for years of course, last year kind of
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a lost season. He tried to pitch through that hip
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: injury but just was never himself and then had surgery.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: But you know, what is AJ's role going to be
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: with the Mets.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the ninth inning is pretty locked down
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: in New York, but kind of what do you envision
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: him doing this upcoming season.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Minch's a guy who have just always not been able
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to stand of course, because if you guys know who's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: always getting the Mets out that he's always kind of
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: an asshole bat the while he was doing it. But
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: he's he's just a really good reliever. I just do
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: wonder about which mentor we're going with together. I know
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: the hip injury is a big deal last year, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: that kind of kind of torpealed his lasty towards the
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: end of the season, because last he still wasn't great
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season either, especially not like
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: ninety six ninety seven guy was the two years before,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and the striker rate was falling with that, and like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I know, the color is still great and the fastball
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: shape is still good, so we can stand up to
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: some worse in velocity. But he giving him eleven million
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: dollars to me, like that whole thing is relying on
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: him basically throwing ninety six to ninety seven miles. Now again,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: if they believe in that, I guess I have to
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: believe in that too, similar to everything I was just
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: saying about, just having blind conference right now in this
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: mess pitching machine. But I wonder about because I think
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: they're kind of counting on him to be like the
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: true seven man, or at least the tough lefty guy
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: right now because Danny Young and Hennis's Carbrera the other
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: lefties in his bullpen, though both of those guys are
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: not very much the right home about at all. I
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: think if those guys were on the scrap heap tomorrow,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: iink it woulda him at LEAs two days to get
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: picked up. I don't think they exactly be like as
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: were grabbed immediately. So with Jose Buda moving to the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: bullpen full time, being a good reliever but kind of
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: having his ups and downs, redguer than Daniel Nuniez came
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: out of freaking nowhere last year and became monsters by
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the middle of the season. I'm very confident those two again.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Ryan Stanick, also by playoff time cond his whole self together,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: but there's still a lot of It's not shaky, but
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: it's definitely still a little bit questionable until we get
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: to Edwin Diaz. So Minter are getting healthy and be
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: able to throw ninety six again is a huge deal.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I think he was weirdly one of the transaction this
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: offseason that the bulk of Mets fans are the most
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: excited about. Because Mets fans always scream about the bullpen.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Everyone's fan base creates about the bullpen. That's roster bullpen.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Get run rough shot through by the Dodgers the NLCS.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: It was a disaster, but it's going on in that
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: bullpen the NLCS. But I just think that Minter probably
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: is a little bit less secure right now of a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: relief pitcher than most Mets fans want to believe. It
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: just it's really about that him, but hoping he could
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: be healthy and this case, he WoT thirty two, now
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: thirty one at least, so this is he's getting up
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: there a little bit of reliever. I just hope that
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: he can recover be the guy we wanted to be.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I always have to root for Aja, except for
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: when he's playing the Braves. I'm a big fan of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: his work, but other than that one set of series, sayer, Okay,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a two parter in some
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: respects for you, one positive and one negative. But I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think you're you're pretty optimistic for what it sounds like.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: But part one is basically the Brave. Sorry, the Mets
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: win the Division this year. If what happens and then
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the other side is they missed the playoffs, how does
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: that happen? Like, what's the upside of downside scenarios for
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the Mets?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I love that question. So the Mets win the division
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: if someone in this rotation becomes a freak, like if
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Tyler McGill says, I'm going to be really good all
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, if Clay Holmes is like, I'm now
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I'm a starling and I'm a really good one. If
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: David Peuson takes another step and this hall is also
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: on the back of Code I Sanga is healthy and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: is the same Code I sang on twenty twenty three,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: And at the same time, Mark fianz Is also has
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to be the same player we saw last year, or
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: francisc G Walveras has to take the big step we're
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: waiting for. Basically, you need three of those five things
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to happen. I just said for the Mess to win
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: this division, or I need something horrible to happens to
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the Atlanta Brace. I need something terrible to happen you guys.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I need Round not to be I need Round the
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Couen to be bad when he comes back. I need
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Specter Streider not to be able to come back healthy.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I need Swelling back. I know it's terrible. I have
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: been too many fantasy leagues, but he's He's the injury
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: rail of PAS, especially in Nebraska. I need I need
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Chris Sale the back to Bark. I need something bad
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to happen to the Braves, and a lot of good
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: things happen to the Mets, because I still think honestly
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: that you guys are like a full rung above this
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: team truly are Like if I'm looking at most projection
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: systems right now, the Braves are clearly to me in
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: ninety win team ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, I
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: can see the Brays winning one hundred games for this
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: pitching staff, and the Mets still probably will have to
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: scratch and claws together above ninety, we'll need things to
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: fall right together above ninety. So in the inverse of that,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: how things go wrong for the Mets miss the playoffs,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: If the Phillies go nuclear, if everyone in the Phillies
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: just kind of is the exact same guy that were
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: last year, that'd be very bad for the Mets. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: then if this pitching staff, if we get twenty percentile
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: outcomes rather than like fifty sixty seventy percentile outcomes, if
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Sanga gets hurt gets hurt again, if we get twenty
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: twenty three David Peters instead of twenty twenty four David Peterson,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: if Clayholmes can't make the switch, if Blackburid and Canning
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: just kind of expectedly aren't very good, If Seuan and
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I and Frankie Mantas don't come back from muscle injuries
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: they sustain in February, which I'm terrified with that fact.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the inverse. And though even though
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: with that, I think the Mets floor is probably still
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: like an eighty three eighty forty five win team, So
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I think we'll still worst case scenario compete for the
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: wildcard spot, but it could get a little hairy and
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: really get into that mud pretty quickly rather than competing
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: for the division.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to get your take on the Phillies,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you know, later in the show for our listeners. Later
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in the spring, we're gonna have someone from the Phillies
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Show come on and do a similar type preview. But now,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: what's your take on Philadelphia? Obviously, last year they won
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the division, first time since twenty seventeen a team other
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: than Atlanta won the Division. I mean, my take, really
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a good roster. They are getting a little old though,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: especially in some of those kind of most important players
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: on that team. But obviously there's a reason the Phillies
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: are top five in World Series odds and you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: pretty even. I mean, I think Atlanta, last time I looked,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: is a slight favorite to win the East, but New
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: York and Philly are both right there.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I think the Phillies are more so that team you
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: guys are describing at the top, where it's like if
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: this was the top fifteen players on the roster, the
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Phillies are special. But the Phillies bomb of the roster
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: gets so bad so quickly where they're going to be
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: relying on major at bats from guys like at Mundos,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: those who actually kind of like but like, he's not
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: really the caliber of someone who could be starting out
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of the champion Kennedy like, they really did a good
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: job in shuring up the back of that rotation when
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Hazels cizarre though, because that's just an upshot guy. Now
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: it could be the fifth starter as supposed to Taiwan
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Walker and that other who's their other guy, Tyler Phillips,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Connor Phillips, never that last name, Phillips. This guy getting
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: starts in the team who just gets lit on fire
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: every time he steps on the mound, and their bullpens.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Also it's I don't know, it's it feels to me
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a little shaky. Romano him being non tendered from the
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: team that had him forever. It makes me think that
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: that elbow can explode any given moment, and Strom, Kirkering
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: and Alvarado, like those guys can do. But those guys
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: are also not as Strom last year in the regular
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: season was amazing. I probably have too negative of a
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: globe because of what we did to them, dismantling them
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: in the NLDS, and they their vibe right now in
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the eyes of Mets fans, But there's still a really, really,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: really good baseball team. The top of that line is ridiculous.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: There's no way trade Turner. I mean this to trade
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Turner College forber Bryce Harper, like that's that's special. In
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: terms of top three in baseball, there's still few teams
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: that good. But Bom never took the step. Castianos is
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: just he's he's become such a I don't know in
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: terms of wins above replaced me. He's barely beating Anthony
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Rendona over the last two seasons, which is all really
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: got to know about that. JC I think still has
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: on the tank then, like the Kepler's start Marsh like
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: that's still those are still good, starting caliber baseball players.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: But you you're it gets bad quickly for this Phillies team.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I still think they're really good. I think they're probably
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: being slept on a little too much right now in
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the national media. But there's there's something. There's something just
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: not there, something is not twisted into place for the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Phillies team in the last two three years. You get
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: so close, you get so many bites at the apple, Like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: how many more can you really get with the same core.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I think I don't really know.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: This is our one joint rooting interest. By the way,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it's just against against the Phillies and Unison on this one.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So uh oh sorry Scott, this is this is unscheduled.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: But uh you mentioned Castianos. I have to ask you
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: about this. I forgot so right now. You might have
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: seen this. Castiios said this winter that he thought Jose
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Glazier should have been the nl MVP last year. Did
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you see that interview? Oh did you hear about this?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: What did you make of that? Because obviously Glasis is
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: gone now if pole don't know that he did not
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: sign with the Mets, he's with the Padres. Now, obviously
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that's a bit of a silly statement. I think we
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: all probably understand that. But uh, the loss of the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Glacis and also the reaction to that CASTI.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: So this is funny because I got a lot of
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: flak in the Mets community because I said it sounded
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: to me like Castianos is being tongue in cheek, like
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: kind of being a jerk, trying to kind of take
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: away from like what the Mets accomplished last year. Because
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: everyone around the league, even even the foul Territory guys,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that crass and Brazinski kept being like, this is a
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: gimmick team. This is this team is like kind of
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: winning on smoking mirrors. But it kind of worked for
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: them for what they needed, for what they had to do.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And I thought Casiano was kind of playing off that,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: and I got a little defensive in Mets mode and
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, screw this guy. He's being a jerk.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to be him on the field again.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And all the Mets people were like, Oh, I think
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: he's actually being genuine. It's just talking about the value
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: of the Glaciers. I'm like, honestly, don't see you, guys,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: but I think I think the Mets really fell in
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: love with the Glaciers because of first of all, when
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: he walked onto the field last year, every single thing
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: changed for this team. Like he kind of gave everything.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: He kind of he was kind of wounds up being
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the straw that started the drink. Between the song, between
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: him hitting three hundred, between having an eight to fifty
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: oh ps, between him playing elite defensive both second and
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: third base, wherever he had to go in a given day,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: in a given inning, it all just worked. I'm not
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: that mad he's gone, because the Mets at the point
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: right now where they need to start letting these young
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: players get these reps, Like you need Louis and Helicooney
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: to take a step. You really want to see if
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Brett Ba they could take a step, like Jet Williams
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: is far behind, like we have in fielders to the
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: point where I don't really I don't know. I don't
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: think I really needed Jose Glacis like clogging up that
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: roster spot. That would have been my opinion last year too,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and I would have been super wrong about that. So
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: it is funny. It's gonna be bithersweet to play against
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: him this year. I think a lot of Mets fans
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: are really going to hold onto his OMG stuff. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: know the Mets organization is probably gonna really try and
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: hold onto it too, But it's gonna be awkward when
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: he's gone. I hope, I hope that there is enough
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to to mitigate the loss of Jose Glacis with Wan
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: So I really hope so. But sometimes he it was
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: really special he was able to do last year, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I'll I'll truly never forget what Jose Lacies did to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four New York Mets.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much against my DNA to ever root
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: for the Mets, but I did find myself cheering for Actually,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I found myself rooting for like thirty six inning ties
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: between the Phillies and the Mets in the NLP. Yeah,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: but you know, the Braves have obviously been been victimized
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: by Philadelphia the last few years in the postseason, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and I mean, the Mets are a great story even
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: if you know objectively, we don't they're not our favorites.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys about what is the rivalry
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: like between you and the Phillies, because for me, it
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: always seems to be like you guys kind of hate
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: each other by proxy, where the Mets really have the
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: historic rivalry with both of you guys, You guys hate
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: each other because you're kind of around each other. You're
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: competing with each yeah, for each other, like we get
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: for both of you.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: It might be this is just me, but it might
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: be like how old are you? Because like when I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: was growing up, the Mets was the that was the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: main rivalry. The Chipper Jones met stuff like that was
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the key that you know as a teenager, that was
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it the Phillies were just not that they were bad.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: They were bad for a long time and then they
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: got good. And of course the team that you know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the team that you are competing with directly, is the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: team that you in that moment are probably a little
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: bit of the most mad at. And then now and then,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, especially if you're a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: certain age Brays fan, it's been the Phillies mostly a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: couple of playoff exits recently. Of course, last year the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Mets was back and forth down to the Ana Rigger season.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: But I think it just kind of maybe depends on
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the day, or the year or the age. I still think, honestly,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: my history is I'm a little bit more Mets as
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: like my historic rival for the Braves. But I bet
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you if you ask them one different aight, that might
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: say something different.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know what, Scott, Maybe we'll do a poll
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that'd actually be like, as a Braves fan, which team
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: do you dislike more the Phillies are the Mets?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I would, honestly, I think Brad spun On. I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: it might be an I'm guessing to be pretty close
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: to fifty to fifty. I think it almost I mean,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like you have to be more Mets. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: mean just thinking about that, because I'm curious about it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Even Who would be like a third rival for you guys,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: because we have like the built in third rival with
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: the Yankees.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the Marlins. I mean
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Marlins or Yankees. Honestly, well it's funny, it's not really
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yankees anymore. But again my age, it was the Yankees.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We lost the Yankees three times in the World Series,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: like it obviously became a thing, and I hate honestly,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: if it's me personally, the Yankees are third for me.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I hate the Yankees, but only because of the age
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that I am and the Braves losing them in the
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: World Series. That's why I hate them.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Here's just going wild. John Rockers just hate New York
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: to the core.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hate in the city if you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: actually quite like the city of New York, just not
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the baseball teams anyway, John Rockers style. I don't want
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to be associated with John Rocker. Just for the rest
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not going John Rocker, I know, I just want
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to write it out of that. Scott anything else you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: want to tack on here or get James' opinion on
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, look, I think he's for good
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: reason autimistic about the Mets. The Mets were I think, look,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'll admit this, the Mets were not really on my
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: radar last year. I was coming into the season. I
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: was pretty low on the Mets, and I was wrong.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: They came on very strong and I have one so
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: do they not seeing anybody this year? But uh, anything
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: else you want to add, Scott, I don't know well.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And the Mets have David Stearns, which you know the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: day that's.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I ran money and money by the way, David Stearns
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: and a lot of money behind him, which is probably
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a bad.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Combination for your which is awesome. Yeah, it's a dangerous, man.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I mean again, we talked about the start, but I mean,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Philly always carries a big payroll, a ton of talent
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: on that team. You're absolutely right, James. The top fifteen
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: for Philadelphia also goes toe to.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Toe anybody in the game. But the back end we'll see.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Would be remiss not to get your very very very
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: official National League East prediction here in the first week
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: of March, just for folks, listening at the moment. The
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: DraftKings has the Braves a slight favorites to win the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: East plus one ten Phillies two fifteen Mets to forty,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: which is interesting to me.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I actually think I like the Mets more than the Phillies.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Fan Grafts has both the Mets and Phillies at eighty
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: seven wins and the Braves at ninety three wins. Frankly,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I might take the over on all three of those
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: teams if I had to, But James your official NL
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: East prediction that I am sure nobody will lose their
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: minds at Yeah, and I think.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: That we can go over all three of those because
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: we're just gonna hopefully beat the crap out of the
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Marlins every single opportunity that we could possibly get. That
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: that team might be worse than lest year's White Sox team.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: She was crazy. Yeah, trade sandial contrac But I mean,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I'm coming on the Brave shows. It's Mets, Braves, Phillies
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be by official prediction. I might have a
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: different show, or if I do an objective, do something
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: else objectively. But I can't come on here not believe
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: the Mets. You're going to beat the Braves this year.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really feel it could go anyway. I mean
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: if I mean again, obviously we all have, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: inherent biases. We try to be objective all that stuff,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you could tell me that at the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: end of September, the Braves win the division, the Mets
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: win the division, the Phillies win the division. All three
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: of those are so so so possible to me. And
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's pretty rare in baseball in this
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: modern era where you have three legitimate World Series contenders
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: in the same division. And I mean again, also, as
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: we've seen, winning the division is probably the first like
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: it's the goal, right, like, no matter what, you want
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: to win the division. But the last four or five
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: playoffs have shown, especially with it being expanded, that you,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: you know, winning the division you get a couple extra
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: days of rest and maybe an extra home gate, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that's where the advantage ends.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we know you guys hate extra days
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: of rest, so you guys are probably trying to avoid that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I'll cost right.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I actually, I still to the end of the earth
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: will always say give me the division and the extra rest,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: and like, maybe maybe you're wrong, but Uh, no, matter
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: how many times the Braves tend to not have that
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: take advantage of that, would be still on that side of.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Things, having been in the two of those three game
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: wildcard series, you guys are in one now. It's not fun.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I would love to win the division one. It's like
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: the Michael Scott choke Wow division championships. He great, would
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: love to be part of the one one day.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm with you all the way, uh Scott? Anything else
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: you want to before we started off here?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: The only thing I want to get, and it's going
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: to be about an hour segment, is so Brad is
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: a Michigan man.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: You're in an Ohio state alone.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So maybe I'll just drop off the I know that
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that won't be good for anybody. Now.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I noticed it behind you, damn oh no, yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's right there on YouTube. People are watching.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not working. I'm not worrying Michigan shirt today. Thought
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: least there's that occasionally will the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's okay, I don't know. It's it's pretty
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  Speaker 3: cool that, like in mountain landscape of college football, that
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  Speaker 3: Michigan Ohio State won the last two championships. I think
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  Speaker 3: that lines up to be next year in ann Arbor.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited for that. Are to half of our
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  Speaker 3: not Scott or half our podcast. Uh, Shawn's a Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: guy and Stevens an Alabama guy, and they go head
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  Speaker 3: to head a lot, so they and they're on their
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  Speaker 3: own show yelling at each other sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: About So it's just one of those things. We all
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  Speaker 1: love college sports, and.
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  Speaker 3: I know this is a shame that they root for
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  Speaker 3: the SEC, which is now just kind of lower tier
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  Speaker 3: college football. It's it's a real shame.
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  Speaker 1: See now we're now we're gonna get in massive trouble,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine. James. James said that I did not
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  Speaker 1: meet with Scott for the record for my listeners.
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  Speaker 3: It's alright. It's it's kind of like minor league baseball,
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  Speaker 3: like Triple A. You're not going to be a major
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: league team like y. And that'll get you guys, James
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  Speaker 3: Underscorciano on Twitter. Let me know how you think. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there it is a couple of years of proof.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Uh, well, I appreciate you. Get your generates to me.
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  Speaker 1: Two comments for us with that comment at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the podcast, Uh, Scott, let's sign this thing off
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  Speaker 1: and thank James for coming on the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks James. We appreciate you taking the time.
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  Speaker 2: I am sure the Braves and Mets have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of big time battle is coming up in the next yeah,
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  Speaker 2: six months. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, having the Braves and the Mets and the Phillies,
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  Speaker 2: even if it does make for more challenging seasons, is
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  Speaker 2: overall good for the game.
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  Speaker 3: Big markets teams.
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  Speaker 2: With history, It's just gonna be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that rivalry is just gonna be ignited
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  Speaker 2: even more this upcoming summer.
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  Speaker 3: I think, truthfully, the National Leagueese have some of the
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: best rivalries in baseball. The Dodgers and the Padres and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the Giants kind of rival at the Yankees the Red
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  Speaker 3: Sox of course, but between three teams that hate each
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  Speaker 3: other's guts and have the players in the field to
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: kind of back it up and put real theater out there,
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  Speaker 3: like this is as goes as going to get in
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  Speaker 3: baseball this season. I can't wait for it.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. I appreciate you coming on. Jav
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  Speaker 1: Scott does as well on our Overlords at Foul Territory,
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  Speaker 1: probably love the crossover episode here early in March. Shouts
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  Speaker 1: to those guys listening to this podcast, High Scott, I, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. But thanks for being here, James wickly appreciate
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: people should be listening to Mess Up. Now they'll be
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: hate listening if you're Braves fans, but we start. Yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's fun hate people. I'm sure hate listen to us is.
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  Speaker 1: It's just part of the deal.
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  Speaker 3: This is.
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  Speaker 1: We're all one big habit family here. I have some
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  Speaker 1: hate listens that I will not name on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: of other sports things that I listen to that I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: don't like listening to, but just kind of have to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: do it sometimes. So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: We do. We do get legitimate Braids hate listeners. So
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: if you guys want to come with that mess fans like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: we do have a bunch of you guys that will
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: be in our YouTube comments, especially because O my co
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: host Draft deck Mark big Braids hater, big YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 3: So the Braids hate are alive. There you go. Well,
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  Speaker 3: thank you, James.
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  Speaker 1: Please subscribe to Mess Up and also of course subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to Hammer Territory anywhere you find your podcast. Faul Scott
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: following me follow the show et cetera, and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: everybody next time.