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#213: Florida State's ACC Championship Instant Reaction · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 0:07
  Speaker 3: You got egg right alright.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: We are the champs.
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: We are the champs, that's right, baby, we're coming down to the committee and we're bringing a 13 and old record and I'm telling you right now you better watch out because we're bringing a fierce defense Led by Jared Verst and Brian Fiske.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: That's right, I pronounce the E in Fisk, brad Fiske, it's Fiske, my boy Fiske.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: I love that guy, he's my boy.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: We're champions.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Thor to State 13 and 0.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: 16 to 6.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Over the Louisville Cardinals.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, man, we did it.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Defense In a game where passing was not there.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: Nobody's throwing the ball 50 yards from Brock Glenn, the true freshman, walk on, and yet you still win this game by 10 points.
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: He's actually a scholarship player, though he played like a walk on yes At times.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: Did I say he was a walk on?
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah.
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: You did.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: You did.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: You did, you did play like he was a walk on at times, but Thor to State Caps off A championship season 13 and 0 baby.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: They did it for 13.
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: 13 and 0.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: And they locked up a spot in the playoff Right.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, if this was a legitimate sport, god dang right.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, I don't even want to go there.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: We need to celebrate this, not tonight.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: Championship.
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: Not going there tonight.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: It's a double championship, tell us.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: He has the Rattler city of champs man With the 35 to 14 win over prayer view and then the game that was delayed a couple of times.
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: They played the Maw's through here.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: So the SWAC and the ACC champions reside right here in Tallahassee.
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: Combined record of 25 and one man.
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: That is some dominance.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: Nowhere else, nowhere else in America 13 and 0 for the gentlemen 13 and 1 SWAC champs for.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: Man what a, what a, what an effort by the defense.
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: They picked the best game to play their best game.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is not a bad Louisville team this team has playmakers, the team can run the ball, they can move the ball and they just answered every single call, every single one, flying colors.
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: Putting some, some really tough spots too.
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: I mean that.
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: That interception in the end zone, right after the end zone, right after the end zone Right after the punt block.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: Just when you, every time you think, oh well, there's no more, they can't withstand anymore, they're not getting anything from the quarterback position.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: I mean anything, but you know what?
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Luckily didn't turn it over.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: He tried to a couple of times.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the decisions were just.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: That's why he's a true freshman Right.
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was some easy looks, I thought.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: I look back at it and there was some throw.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: He was afraid to pull the trigger.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: Some easy throws I thought he had, and but that's what you worry about.
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: The big drive came when they went to the the wildcat, which I was asking them to just stay with it For the rest of the half.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that, why not?
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: I mean you're not going to go negative and you're not going to give me anything up with the way this defense was playing.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, another wrinkle toe.
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: Affiliate was running it really good.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was letting those blocks line up and bam, he hit the hole.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: That drive, that one run was so huge.
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that that sequence, those two plays you know he won the MVP because of that Right.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: He had another he had a few nice little runs there in the fourth quarter.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: That Were huge.
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: You know they flip field position, got us in field position for a field goal.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: All right, man, you're right, you're right.
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: But outside of that there wasn't a whole lot of trade.
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: Benson started, started cooking a little bit there in the fourth yeah, but that was it, man.
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: You weren't going to get anything from the.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: And the big 10.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: This would be a gritty.
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: It's amazing how the narrative is, is it's?
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: just regional and really production based man Like you look at the SEC, you look at the big 10 and they got an entire network behind them.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: Just Well, really we're going to get there, yeah, we will but the but the ACC champs for Florida State, and that's right.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: I can't say enough about the defense performance when your Quarterback goes 821 for 55 yards, that's it.
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he had one good run.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: They got called back from her for a holding and he didn't do anything on the ground.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't get you much on the ground.
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: Got sat in four times he did and turned the ball over to a field.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: He 10 carries, 118 yards and a touchdown.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: Tray Benson 18 carries, 67 yards.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: It looked like he almost broke one there at the end.
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, keon Coleman four catches, 19 yards.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: Johnny, johnny, will, I mean, I mean just to go just to eliminate your passing game and still win.
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: I will say he had, he had, he had some drops.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one another drop by by Keon.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: That was a big drop.
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: You can see why he was a recruit.
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: White, white yeah, I mean he's got a arm yeah.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: And I mean you.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: You can see, this was the danger with with starting a true freshman.
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: You know a guy that's never started a football game college level before.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: Right, they kept throwing the ball at times when it was just clearly not going to work.
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: And I get it.
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: You want to.
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: You know, when you're in the first quarter you don't want to immediately go to one dimensional, Even though you're right, man, it really looked like that.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: Defense is playing where you're going to shut them down.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: That's just I like the way.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: Just mono a mono, get an extra blocker in there.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe some more wrinkles there, but just an absolute gutty performance by that defensive line.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: And Brandon Fisk and Jared verse those two guys, pat, pat, peyton Pat.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: Peyton as well.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stepped on me and Farmer defensive line has been just for those right there.
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: They are linebackers.
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: They're going to get Darrell Jackson.
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had it to him, so that's, that's a point right there.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: So you're going to take into effect the injury of quarterback?
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: What about the addition at what it is already a championship level defense?
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting another six foot six 330 pound Interior guy that just already do that rotation of guys that are going to play on Sunday.
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: I mean he's another one.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: Right, fam, you was victorious today it was white championship.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Snake bit, fam, you can trip your owls at the game.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: He was in the locker room with the team.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: We have some more footage and stuff to keep it locked for that.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: But Florida State 16 to 6.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: I mean how, how impressed were you by this defense?
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, every level played lights out.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, linebackers.
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: Linebackers Deloche.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: The Deloche has been doing it all season, yeah.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: But, doing really as well.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: And really you're starting three.
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: But yeah, man, the entire defense green all a lot less of the corner, the corner.
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ronaldo, green Ronaldo, man he's been awesome all year, just and even, even Thomas man.
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: You know thrash thrash shook him nasty one time, but that was it Right.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: You know they did not.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: They didn't let him.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: That's the big play guy.
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you could tell.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: That one slant round game that had.
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: Jack Plummer was Ronaldo Green made the play.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had that slant because he had made a good movie, just made it.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: That was an NFL play.
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: Man, what a game.
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: They was an elite performance by the defense.
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: So let's go from.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: Adam Fuller on down to.
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: You know, it really was it, Shaheem.
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: On that one run play took a bad angle.
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: Other than that, I don't think they would have.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: You know, it was so impressive to have that drive.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: I think they should have ran more of it and I know you can't assume that you won't have confidence in your guy.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they saw a lot more, a lot better in practice of what he could do, but man.
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm you know, I'm sure they figured after running the Wildcat and scoring that it would take a little screenplay at the end there I didn't I don't know about that.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: I just thought, yeah, let them make them show you that they can stop it.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they should have ran into a little more, knowing that, hey, we're not really going to get anything in the passing game, so let's just get an extra blocker.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe throw that out a couple of times, but that's just nitpicking.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: When you won, you won with a true freshman quarterback who's not going to be playing.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: Tate Rodermaker is going to be back in there.
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: That's the thing that you know, but father, you gotta remember Like he was not supposed to start until all of a sudden Sunday Rosenberg shows up with you going in?
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: So he'll be going back in the playoff.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: Michael Orville will be quick to look down the next.
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: Let him know the next game for the state.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: Warm up, you're going in.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I and I think you know, based on the Florida game you saw and and you want to, the backup, the backup, that's just shows you the backup quarterback popularity.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: It's always like, oh, this next guy, he's going to debut and he's going to be the start of this new dynasty and he's going to be, you know, have this magic start.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: But then you realize and imagine Brock Lynn actually starting down there in the swamp Like right, it would have been a nightmare.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: How important that position is, but how great, how gritty this team is, and it shows you how important, how, how another side of the ball can step up.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense played lockdown.
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: Every single player on that defense just told you know we're not losing to Louisville.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: They got him that drive and they got him that running touchdown.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: That was enough.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: What, what a performance is back to back.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: What do you do?
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: Back to back games where the defense has just, you know, verse, verse, especially where he's just taken over, you know, throwing offensive linemen into the quarterback Right, it's just.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: You play to win the game.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: What do you keep score for?
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Other teams had games in the season.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: They lost and you have three teams right now.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: Who wants to face his defense in the playoff.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: You hear a lot of talk.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: You're right, man.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: We're talking about Washington, Florida state.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: Let's get there.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Let's get there those are your three undefeated teams.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: You rank them one, two three.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: One, two, three, that's it.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: You decide which which team's going to be put at number four.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what we're?
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're using that I test and all that other stuff when it's when the win loss record is equal.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, what are we freaking doing?
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want to hear it.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to the.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to the football.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: You know, like you don't go to the Super Bowl or you go to the playoff.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: So we're say, when Jeff Hosteller leads the Giants to the Super Bowl, but the bills had the number one offense in the league and they missed a field goal, Well, well, if we're going to give out the championship, Buffalo control the line, the game, and they brought no they had the best team.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: No, you play, you win the game and you cannot deny a chance to this team, this defense, this coaching staff.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: They deserve it, yeah, and they, and I think, with the way this defense is playing.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: I think that they, just they're one of the four best.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your boy Booger had it.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: Had it right, man, like there's a lot of emphasis put on you know how you look today and instead of how you've looked all season.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Right, it should be how you looked all season.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: And it should matter.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is the eyeball test told you that Oregon was going to crush Washington, right, right, they've been crushing everybody and Washington's been skating by just flirting with disaster.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: The eyeball test, and it's not like they had two, three, you know, a month to get ready to play Oregon.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: It was all right.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: So we'll, the committee, will we'll, we'll have, we'll see if there's corporate influence, which you, you know, the SEC, they can't leave them out.
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, the cynic in me thinks obviously there's going to be some if this is like a qualifying event you know, where things were valued like wins and losses.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't go in.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Because, you're going to if you have 300 feet of teams.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Now the debate is Texas, alabama.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: That's your arguing over one spot.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're arguing over one spot.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: They're, they're, they're including Florida state.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Does the head to head Into this without including Washington or Michigan?
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: What makes them?
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: Well, because they're quarterback.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Still right, it's still there.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: That's true, that's it.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: That's the only reason, but they still.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: They had two games and they won both of them.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: But.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: But they covered the spread in both of them.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: Like you're not, you're not looking at Michigan or Washington and questioning them, because they're, they're a star player or, yeah, you know, Michael Pinnix isn't hurt, and whoever you know Ohio state.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: when they did it, they had a loss, by the way.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, that's people, people.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: That's revisionist history.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: They were all new.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: They were taking Ohio state and, you know, comparing them to Baylor and TCU, who also had a loss.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Right, it was for that fourth spot, right you?
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: know there's something about going undefeated.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: And and I want to hear that they played two out of conference games against the SEC the SEC and the ACC this year and I'll, I'll.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: The ACC was better, yeah, and head to head, yeah.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: So this SEC narrative is something that's been developed over accumulation of years.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: If you look at it, for just this year, big 12 beat them.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Right, texas and Alabama played this season, do you?
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Leave.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Do you leave Nick Saban out of the playoffs?
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not a yes, that's what I'm saying Like are they?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know If.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: If this sport has any legitimacy left, then yes.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: You have to.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: If you don't, unless you head to head, doesn't matter.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I mean and if head, and that's the best thing for me if head to head, if head to head is not gonna matter, then Michigan Conference Championship going undefeated in Washington.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Conference Championship undefeated.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Florida State Conference Championship undefeated.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Play up, play up, play up.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody else can match that yeah.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: So but, like, if they're the best, what the fuck are we doing with this best shit?
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Well, they well, I could.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: It's how you look when you're playing games against teams that aren't you know, and I get it, man, alabama winning in beach.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: That's why I understand it's gonna be really hard to leave Alabama out.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a huge win.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Do I mean Kirby Smart's telling you that you shouldn't leave Georgia out?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Of course that's what they're gonna say, yeah, and if he's looking, we're not asking, well, then let's just go to the scouts.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Then I love, let's just get in a beauty pageant.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Let's put on our shorts and let's see who's got the strongest players.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Let's flex and see who has most bench press and let's take out all the fun in what makes this sport great.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: It's just sometimes you know what it comes down to that you gotta play the game.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: You gotta play the game and tell that to.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Was it 03 Auburn or they're undefeated.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: They didn't.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Nobody remembers them, nobody, nobody.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: So don't give me that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And if they would have had a playoff, then they would have been in.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: So, like you get, this is why you have a playoff.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: So there cause, there's three undefeated teams here, right?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: What if there was only a national championship?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: You would have an undefeated team being left out.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: You'd have Florida State team, they would have left out already.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: But because of a quarterback.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: And that's not we gotta playoff like that.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Like we, we had to win the game.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you play to keep score.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You know and I'm all for like using the comparisons when it's equal, but you're set for the schedule which you played in, which is legitimate compared to anybody else.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Look how many bowl teams the ACC put out this year.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, look what they did head to head, this, this.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: It's just looking at it and like the matchup was so sexy of Alabama and Georgia and what they are and recruiting and what they get.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But you know what they played in a game and the team that had already lost one.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It sucks for the SEC, sucks for Georgia.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: We'll find out what you know.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: But I mean that can happen, man.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't do enough in the regular season other than just you know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Allow yourself to have the opportunity in the title game, and then you lost to.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Alabama Beauty contest.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: So you gotta play in the orange bowl.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Then it is a beauty contest.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if Florida State doesn't make it, it's a beauty contest.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It's not a sport, it's not football anymore.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great because there's, there's stories that you don't expect, because you know the Goliaths don't make it all the time, you know, because the stone hit, you know, like what I'm saying is like the team answered the bell all year.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: What if?
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: What if it?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter how it looks.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: What if they like just put out there that Jordan Travis was gonna be back?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: from the playoff Right.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: With that, if like what.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna change what some people say, because they're just gonna always push it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Like no, no, but that's what I'm saying, like why, I don't know so you're too late with the 12 team playoff couldn't come in a worse time for the SEC.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: They needed it this year.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I think they needed just needed Texas in there.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's time for you guys to just sit this one out, man.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Because it look at it All right.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So if Texas was in the SEC this year and it was up to those two wouldn't be anything they would display are just put Texas in well, it wouldn't they would have played again.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't happen one of them happen because they would, one of them wouldn't have had the opportunity right.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Alabama wouldn't have yeah, so they would have never had a chance.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: And let's, let's go back for me, for me, I'll burn game last week.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you're down to a fourth and 31.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Oh well, oh, they deserved it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: There's no fluke, there's no flute to there, it's all burn.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You know, and it's tough, and I know it is.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: But that's kind of yeah Florida.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: State never came down to that type of game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't even have their quarterback right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: They didn't even have their starting still they're getting their second string quarterback, they'll have that guy back.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So I I this this best and subjective of who you want to do it should be, is bull crap.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You play to win the game and when it's when you're Lining up, there's three undefeated teams.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: The the argument is for one.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You want to put Alabama over Texas.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I Don't know what you're gonna tell Texas.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I had to head, you know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: But even it's even more egregious Well, let's to have an undefeated team who doesn't have a loss, get jumped by a team that has a lot.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's let's see.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Let's look at it like that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, Texas and Alabama are very soon.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: You know, next year they're gonna be in the same conference right so you know, let's just look at it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: If you had to pick between the two, like who's gonna play Georgia let's say they were in the same conference this year You'd have to choose between one of them.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Who's gonna go and play Georgia in the title game?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: right.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: It would come down to Texas, so that should be for the playoff.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Texas would have had them head to head if they were in the same conference.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Someone's gonna be upset.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you feel like you're right now the Florida State's just like cheering.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Come on, we just won.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you think you are Many.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I am Champion of the ACC.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You know it's funny Clemson Would have never if it was Clemson god now if they were undefeated, they wouldn't.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: They'd be shooing right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Let's just say it's not even worth getting.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: They'd have, you know, dabba would have been on TV.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: A lot more politics, yeah, and they would have had to win for another.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, mike Norvell was asked and he said the right thing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: He didn't say anything about it until the end of the game.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And he answers like this team's undefeated, those other teams lost boom out of here exactly.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: He's not a clown show like Dabba.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Was there's coaches on?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the committee that that can not let the rankings come out without an undefeated thing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: It's never, happened before.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You can't do this.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: We're going to 12 next year.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I hate it for you, nick, but this will be.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: This will this will go on.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: This will be the big offseason story going into the new year.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Finally, we have a system that's gonna keep.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You know, give everyone a chance.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But you had your chance this year.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: It just never had a year where there were so many undefeated teams.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna punish an undefeated team now because we didn't.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: They didn't pass our eye test, they didn't look good enough, and the in the dress or whatever.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Then what are we doing here?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Let's run down.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Let's run down the month, let's run down the runway and let's make it what it is.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It's just a freaking beauty pageant.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I say no beauty pageant, this is compete, yeah, compete right.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like what the hell are we doing out there?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It's great man, If you guys want if we had a loss then, then I would you know.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: If it, what do you think's gonna happen me?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably end up getting screwed.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm not surprised that you say that, but I don't care right now, like I know.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I know, I think I'm gonna be a little bit more confident in this game than I'm gonna be.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I don't care right now.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Like I know, I know, just this is championship.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I just think.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I think the sport in and of itself has just moved into a different Commercial yeah, it's all media.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: They don't want Florida State in because the matchup for some reason.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Jordan trap.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really think it's just because JT's out, jordan Travis is in, they can push that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: You know He'd be in New York, you know they would be able to have ratings.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But, it like it doesn't matter.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got that they can Jared verse yeah, Fisk Farmer plenty of plenty, that whole secondary play.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Green Ronaldo, green dent, hakeem dent, all playing just great games.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Teamwork that's a high-powered special teams passing attack.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You know, brian.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Brown is one of the punt blocked Right there and the defense comes out, gets the interception.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: So I'm saying how many defenses in the country you know Two, three, you think, out of family Georgia, seven sacks.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Seven sacks, seven sacks, when you had to have it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Come on now.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: What are we doing here?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Playing to win the game.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Come on, you play to win the game.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we doing?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Play to win the game.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So what is your top four?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I just want to point out that that's another quarterback that the Florida State defense held, oh, under 50% number one, deep number one defense in terms of quarterback.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yep, I don't know percentage.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many straight weeks that is that they've held a guy under 40 or under 50%.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But it just looked Heroic hit the defensive effort.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: It looked they're running in 2.3 yards of carry right, Like that's what they hung there.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: How?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Louisville is a good team.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, that's 33 points a game Throughout the season.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Joar Jordan was the first team.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: First team all ACC running back hold them to a career low 3.7 yards.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Okay like that that this is.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: They're just picking and choosing because the quarterback such a polarizing position, but you saw how a team can unite and step up and this defense has done nothing, but that Just took it to another level.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they really have.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Fitzgerald missed one, but he hit a clutch field goal as well.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah he hit the two.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: That good season for.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Fitzgerald man could come back season for him.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah there was because he was an Achilles heel.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: At one point you would look at him because he would so inconsistent, but he was consistent this year.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Good season all season.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: He really was.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: You know, that was a huge question mark, right going and going into the season or go see those mid-range field goals.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: He would struggle with those and he hit that 33 yarder at the end, which was oh, so nice watching it through.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: It really was.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: You know that that defensive performance.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: It goes up there with some of the the glory years.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Teams that did win national titles.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Right that that?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: was this defense as good as any in the country?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It is they.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Can you know they played.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: They played poor at times but there was a lot of rotation going on all season, Guys getting snaps different, different.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: You put the starting 11 out there right and it's Good luck, man, all right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: We had to go.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I gotta get on any, but we got to tell you what I can't believe.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I'm dude.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I did not see Alabama beat in Georgia like that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: No, they control the game.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and credit to Alabama.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: They were the last team to beat Georgia 29 can't get over 29.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: The last two teams to get 29.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: That's why he's the best man he's, you know.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: But he probably should have beat Texas at home.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I mean you're going to pollute for your team, but any coach was going to tell you that yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: And you know, I was, I was, I didn't think that Georgia could lose the game and possibly lose the spot, but I really, I really do think now that you can't put them in.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You can't, you can't, you can't SEC is going to get one, if none they might get.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And if they get one, there's going to be a huge argument about Texas beat them and they're going to get left out, or God forbid or you're leaving for a state.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And then that's going to be ridiculous.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean there's going to be a lot of angry people but whatever ACC champs 13 to no, that's never going to be taken away.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: No, you got.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You got a trophy, you got a ring.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Got a ring.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: The school that has been.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: You know the program has been looking for that for a long time.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Right, so your top four if there's same committee Michigan one, Washington to Florida, state three and Texas, yeah, yeah.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: That's what you should roll with.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's your top four.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I picked Texas, Washington and Florida state in the preseason.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So the only Georgia let me down.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Georgia, Georgia.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you get Michigan either, but I think Texas is your four seat.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's how it should work.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: If everything is, and then you got Washington versus Florida state in the sugar bowl.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: But if it's anything other than that, then it's just it will be man, it's going to be politics, and politics is we want to.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: we want to be able to sell it, we want to.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: You know, like Booger said, it's who do we want to see the most?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: do we want?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to say, see, play, nobody wants to watch.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: We'll all be watching.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: We'll all be watching the the they'll do the selection tomorrow afternoon and we'll we'll react to it when we talk to you then right here on the North Florida sports network.