Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: Judge Kaplan Tells Prince Andrew's Team To Prepare For Trial (8/7/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
- 0:04Speaker 1: your host, Bobby Capucci, and this is a morning update.
- 0:10Speaker 1: What's up everyone in Greetings from Sin City. So I
- 0:14Speaker 1: told you as soon as they hired Marty Singer and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Andrew Brettler over at Team Joe Exotic of the Winsor
- 0:21Speaker 1: Family that the full court press would begin. They would
- 0:25Speaker 1: start their attacks on Virginia and folks. It's almost as
- 0:29Speaker 1: if I know what I'm talking about. In the new
- 0:33Speaker 1: filing that has been filed with the courts by Prince
- 0:36Speaker 1: Andrew's team, they're basically calling her a money grubber, somebody
- 0:40Speaker 1: who's just looking for a payday. Now, that's all fine
- 0:45Speaker 1: and well to say, but you better have the receipts.
- 0:50Speaker 1: And it certainly doesn't look like the Joe Exotic of
- 0:52Speaker 1: the Windsor Family possesses any of those. Instead, what he
- 0:57Speaker 1: possesses is a big fan and a bunch of lies.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Oh I was at the pizza place. Oh I don't
- 1:05Speaker 1: know Virginia. Oh I've never met her. Yeah, why are
- 1:08Speaker 1: you sending Gallan Maxwell emails about her? Why is there
- 1:11Speaker 1: a picture with your hand around her waist? With the
- 1:16Speaker 1: brazenness at which they attempt to lie to us on
- 1:19Speaker 1: a regular basis is unbelievable. And the fact that people
- 1:25Speaker 1: still buy this bullshit is just beyond me. I don't
- 1:30Speaker 1: know how anyone can look at this situation and not
- 1:34Speaker 1: see Prince Andrew for the scoundrel ass mfe is This
- 1:42Speaker 1: dude is just disgusting. You have daughters, bro, What are
- 1:48Speaker 1: you doing? How would you feel if the roles were
- 1:52Speaker 1: reversed and this was your daughter? Is this what you
- 1:54Speaker 1: would tell your lawyer? You want your lawyers to say
- 1:56Speaker 1: about her? What's next? They're gonna say that Virginia I
- 2:00Speaker 1: had a beer one time. Oh no, oh, Virginia smoked
- 2:03Speaker 1: a cigarette. It is all just so fucking absurd. Here's
- 2:08Speaker 1: an idea. Let's go to court and let's see. No,
- 2:12Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, do you. No. It's
- 2:14Speaker 1: a game of technicalities and loopholes. And now they're going
- 2:17Speaker 1: with the scorched earth theory. Well, folks, I told you
- 2:23Speaker 1: this was coming, and guess what if I knew it
- 2:27Speaker 1: was coming, you better believe that Virginia's lawyers knew it
- 2:30Speaker 1: was coming, So they're gonna be prepared for this, I
- 2:33Speaker 1: would guess, But me personally. You already know I have
- 2:38Speaker 1: a few things to say. So let's jump into this
- 2:41Speaker 1: article from The Guardian and let's see what they have
- 2:46Speaker 1: to say about this situation. Doesn't seem to have an
- 2:53Speaker 1: author's name here for this article, so I'm guessing it's
- 2:56Speaker 1: a staff article. So there you are headline. Prince Andrew
- 3:01Speaker 1: asked US judge to dismiss lawsuit alleging sexual abuse. Of
- 3:05Speaker 1: course he does, and I get it right. I wouldn't
- 3:09Speaker 1: want to go to court either. If I was him,
- 3:10Speaker 1: I'd be doing everything in the world I possibly could
- 3:15Speaker 1: to make sure that I wasn't going to court either,
- 3:18Speaker 1: especially if I knew I did something wrong. And you know,
- 3:21Speaker 1: he knows what's up. What do you think he's sitting there.
- 3:23Speaker 1: He has himself fooled. He might have some other people fooled,
- 3:26Speaker 1: but he ain't fool in himself. He knows what he did.
- 3:31Speaker 1: The Joe Exotic of the Windsor family has asked the
- 3:33Speaker 1: US judge to dismiss Virginia Robert's civil lawsuit accusing him
- 3:38Speaker 1: of sexually abusing her when she was seventeen, in a
- 3:41Speaker 1: filing with the US District Court in Manhattan on Friday,
- 3:45Speaker 1: the Duke of York, said that case should be dismissed
- 3:47Speaker 1: because Roberts failed to state a claim warranting relief. Again,
- 3:52Speaker 1: technicalities and loopholes. This is what they're trying to do.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Their whole, entire goal is to never be in front
- 4:00Speaker 1: of a judge, never to answer any questions, never to
- 4:03Speaker 1: give a deposition, and certainly never to go under oath.
- 4:08Speaker 1: You've seen the way this moron was stumbling around his
- 4:10Speaker 1: words with Emily Maitliss, wearing kid gloves with him. Can
- 4:14Speaker 1: you imagine if he was sitting down with a real interrogator,
- 4:18Speaker 1: somebody who didn't give a fly an f that he
- 4:20Speaker 1: was a prince, somebody who just wanted to extract answers. Yeah,
- 4:25Speaker 1: that's gonna work out well. So of course his team
- 4:29Speaker 1: of high profile shit talking lawyers are gonna do everything
- 4:34Speaker 1: they can to keep his repugnant ass away from anything
- 4:40Speaker 1: like that. He also said that if dismissal were not granted,
- 4:45Speaker 1: Robert should provide a more definitive statement of her allegations.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I mean, what exactly is it that you want, mister prince?
- 4:54Speaker 1: You want a full accounting of what happened? Why don't
- 4:56Speaker 1: we ask Maxwell why don't we call Glenn Maxwell to
- 4:59Speaker 1: the stand and see which she has to say. This
- 5:04Speaker 1: guy is the biggest ninni in the history of the world.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And every time I look at his dumb ass face
- 5:11Speaker 1: and the stupid ass expressions on it, on that dumb face,
- 5:15Speaker 1: I want to vomit. This man is an absolute sore
- 5:23Speaker 1: on the underbelly of the UK and an embarrassment. Oh.
- 5:29Speaker 1: We have plenty of embarrassments here in America, have you
- 5:31Speaker 1: no doubt? But this guy, Oh, he's right up there
- 5:34Speaker 1: with with our best. An absolute piece of garbage. The document,
- 5:42Speaker 1: signed by lawyer Andrew Brettler, said, accusing a member of
- 5:46Speaker 1: the world's best known royal family of serious misconduct has
- 5:50Speaker 1: helped Roberts create a media frenzy online and in the
- 5:53Speaker 1: traditional press. It is unfortunate but undeniable that sensationalism and
- 6:00Speaker 1: nuendo have prevailed over the truth. What is the truth,
- 6:03Speaker 1: mister Bretler. We've been trying to get to it forever. Now,
- 6:07Speaker 1: all of a sudden you come in and you're the
- 6:09Speaker 1: arbiter of truth. I got news for you, Hollywood, Not
- 6:14Speaker 1: this time around. Pal. You're not intimidating nobody. Nobody's scared
- 6:19Speaker 1: of you. I'm certainly not scared of any of you clowns.
- 6:26Speaker 1: You people are the biggest kinds of bullies on earth,
- 6:29Speaker 1: and the people that I can't stand the most. To
- 6:36Speaker 1: sit here and try and demeanor the way you're doing
- 6:39Speaker 1: it in the news is exactly what I expected. And
- 6:42Speaker 1: that's why I did that whole entire two part episode
- 6:45Speaker 1: about Marty Singer and Brettler and this whole entire law firm.
- 6:51Speaker 1: This is their mo They think that this is the
- 6:55Speaker 1: proper way to go about it, because when you're dealing
- 6:57Speaker 1: with Hollywood, this usually is the right way to go
- 6:59Speaker 1: about it. But they're making a critical error. This time.
- 7:04Speaker 1: The ship is sailed. The days of victim blaming are over.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Nobody's down with that now, except for like some in
- 7:12Speaker 1: cells and some weirdos. Even people who a few years
- 7:17Speaker 1: ago might have looked the other way are not anymore.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Everyone sickened by you, Joe Exotic of the Windsor family,
- 7:27Speaker 1: and we're certainly all sickened by your lawyer's attempt here
- 7:30Speaker 1: to demean Virginia. And if they thought that this was
- 7:37Speaker 1: just gonna pass by the wayside without an absolute evisceration,
- 7:42Speaker 1: they have not been paying attention. Roberts has initiated this
- 7:52Speaker 1: baseless lawsuit against Joe Exotic of the Windsor family to
- 7:56Speaker 1: achieve another payday at his expense and at the expense
- 8:00Speaker 1: of those closest to him. Epstein's abuse of Roberts does
- 8:03Speaker 1: not justify her public campaign against Prince Andrew. Hey, Brettler,
- 8:08Speaker 1: what if it was your daughter? How about that, buddy?
- 8:12Speaker 1: Would that justify it? Then you are an absolute clown Brettler. Okay,
- 8:20Speaker 1: your whole law firm full of clowns? Do you do
- 8:23Speaker 1: all of you drive together in one car and then
- 8:26Speaker 1: pile out eleven deep dent d d d N dent dent.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Now is that your entrance music? Going after somebody who
- 8:35Speaker 1: has been through what this poor girl has been through,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and to try and to mean her as a liar
- 8:40Speaker 1: like this, There's no other way to go about it.
- 8:42Speaker 1: You can't perform your job with a little more decency.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Of course, you can't. Rattlesnake ass serpent MF. Lawyers for
- 8:55Speaker 1: Roberts did not immediately respond to a requests for comment.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Roberts thirty eight, who is one of Epstein's most prominent accusers,
- 9:02Speaker 1: sued Andrew for unspecified damages in August, and you know
- 9:07Speaker 1: what the kicker is, Virginia wouldn't have to sue him
- 9:10Speaker 1: for damages if the law enforcement would have just done
- 9:13Speaker 1: their job from the get go. You know what kind
- 9:17Speaker 1: of different conversation this all is if law enforcement did
- 9:20Speaker 1: their job, If they had some a steal in their
- 9:22Speaker 1: spine and they slapped him with Rico or her with
- 9:25Speaker 1: Rico the same way they did with Keith rayin Neery,
- 9:28Speaker 1: the same way they did with r. Kelly. What it's
- 9:31Speaker 1: not good enough for Maxwell? Then you could have alleviated
- 9:34Speaker 1: all of this bullshit and he would be looking at
- 9:36Speaker 1: Rico predicates folks, not a civil case. And then I'd
- 9:40Speaker 1: like to see how much Yap and Bretler would be doing.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Probably not as much because Rico is the manna of
- 9:48Speaker 1: the gods. When it comes to tools that the government
- 9:51Speaker 1: has in their toolbox. Why do you think they use
- 9:53Speaker 1: it against every single Italian person that goes in front
- 9:57Speaker 1: of them? But no, not for this. Not If you're
- 10:00Speaker 1: a molester. You want to be involved in sports gambling,
- 10:04Speaker 1: well that's going to be seven years. You want to
- 10:08Speaker 1: molest girls and be part of a trafficking organization, no
- 10:11Speaker 1: big deal. As long as you're a prince, Well guess what,
- 10:14Speaker 1: fuck him, fuck that, and fuck the royal family. Roberts
- 10:24Speaker 1: also accused Andrew of abusing her at Epstein's mansion in
- 10:27Speaker 1: Manhattan and on one of Epstein's private islands in the
- 10:30Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands. Andrew sixty one, a former friend of Epstein, No,
- 10:35Speaker 1: it is bis bff. Okay, who flies across the pond
- 10:39Speaker 1: to break up with a dude? Unless you're in a
- 10:41Speaker 1: relationship with him, then that's a different story. Then I
- 10:44Speaker 1: get it. You're his friend, you're the Prince of England.
- 10:47Speaker 1: You're flying across the pond to go and break up
- 10:50Speaker 1: with a child molester in person? Oh okay, Yeah, you're
- 10:54Speaker 1: a hell of a guy. You're exactly who i'd want
- 10:56Speaker 1: to be representing my country. You desc gusting excuse for
- 11:01Speaker 1: a man, Andrew sixty one, excuse me a past there.
- 11:09Speaker 1: The prince, who is the Queen's second son, gave up
- 11:12Speaker 1: many royal duties and lost support from charities and organizations
- 11:16Speaker 1: after a disastrous November twenty nineteen interview in which he
- 11:21Speaker 1: did not appear as sympathetic towards Epstein's survivors. Well, this
- 11:25Speaker 1: just reinforces that right. If he was sympathetic, don't you
- 11:29Speaker 1: think he would have said to his lawyer's, look, where's
- 11:31Speaker 1: some gloves here? Guys, be a little cautious. I don't
- 11:34Speaker 1: want victim blaming going on. Defend me, but no. So
- 11:40Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that he didn't care
- 11:43Speaker 1: then and he certainly doesn't care now. Just another piece
- 11:51Speaker 1: of disinformation about how you know he cares so much. Oh,
- 11:57Speaker 1: he he's so worried about the survivors, not him or
- 12:01Speaker 1: the Royal family. They haven't done a thing, lifted one
- 12:04Speaker 1: single finger to try and help these survivors. Not one
- 12:08Speaker 1: has the Royal family made a donation to a human
- 12:11Speaker 1: trafficking organization? Well, I mean, why would they do that
- 12:15Speaker 1: considering their family member is part of a human trafficking ring.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Never mind the fact that he's hanging out with Nyguard
- 12:25Speaker 1: or arms dealers or anyone else. But there's a real
- 12:27Speaker 1: good guy. So if we're calling Virginia's character into question,
- 12:32Speaker 1: then you better damn well believe that Prince Andrew, the
- 12:36Speaker 1: Joe Exotic of the Windsor family can count on getting
- 12:39Speaker 1: dragged on this podcast on a regular basis. Run home
- 12:43Speaker 1: and tell that a lawyer for Roberts, told the Daily
- 12:47Speaker 1: Telegraph the Duke's newsnight interview where he discussed the allegations,
- 12:52Speaker 1: will form part of the case against him. Uh yeah,
- 12:57Speaker 1: that monstrosity of an interview. Fuck a crash. That's the Hindenburg, folks,
- 13:02Speaker 1: that's the Titanic hitting an iceberg. This dumb moron gets
- 13:07Speaker 1: up there, drooling all over himself, looking the fool. Then
- 13:12Speaker 1: he has the audacity to call somebody else a liar.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Oh okay. Sigared McAuley was quoted in the paper saying, frankly,
- 13:22Speaker 1: it was very helpful for us. I don't know who
- 13:25Speaker 1: would have advised him to do that. It was a
- 13:27Speaker 1: very wrong move on his part to expose himself in
- 13:30Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, it was talk about a blunder, big
- 13:34Speaker 1: time blunder. And now his two thousand dollars an hour lawyers,
- 13:40Speaker 1: well they're here to pick up the pieces. Well, good luck.
- 13:46Speaker 1: At a hearing last month, Brettler told the US district
- 13:49Speaker 1: Judge Lewis Kaplan, who oversees Robert's case, that he believed
- 13:53Speaker 1: the settlement agreement absolves our client from any and all liability.
- 13:57Speaker 1: David boy is one of Robert's lawyers has said he
- 14:00Speaker 1: considered the agreement irrelevant to Robert's case, and I'm pretty
- 14:05Speaker 1: sure that this document is irrelevant. I highly doubt it's
- 14:09Speaker 1: going to prove to be a big boon for the
- 14:14Speaker 1: Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. But we'll have to see.
- 14:21Speaker 1: The next hearing is scheduled for the third of November.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Roberts was sued separately for twenty million dollars on Thursday
- 14:29Speaker 1: for allegedly defaming on Twitter an artist who has said
- 14:32Speaker 1: she brought women to Epstein but denied being a recruiter.
- 14:36Speaker 1: So you brought women to Epstein as an adult, but
- 14:39Speaker 1: you're not a recruiter. Huh, Okay, sure, I guess. The
- 14:44Speaker 1: artist Rina o Amman or Amen whatever, sued over tweets
- 14:49Speaker 1: including that she procured and partook in the abuse of minors.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Amon called the tweets maliciously false and said Epstein also
- 14:58Speaker 1: abused her. Epstein killed himself allegedly at age sixty six
- 15:03Speaker 1: in a Manhattan jail in August twenty nineteen, while awaiting
- 15:07Speaker 1: trial on sex trafficking charges. Here's an interesting question, and
- 15:11Speaker 1: of course this is just me throwing it out there.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I have no evidence of this pretty interesting that Rena
- 15:20Speaker 1: has her lawsuit come right at the same time as
- 15:23Speaker 1: Brettler and Marty Singer begin their full frontal assault of Virginia.
- 15:29Speaker 1: Pretty odd how these timelines are meeting. Upon question is
- 15:34Speaker 1: what's going on there? Is that a coordinated attack? Again,
- 15:38Speaker 1: I have no proof of that, just a question. And
- 15:40Speaker 1: when you're dealing with the people who are dealing with,
- 15:43Speaker 1: all bets are off, folks. There's nothing that is off
- 15:45Speaker 1: the table when you're talking about Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise
- 15:50Speaker 1: or the remnants of it, And that is exactly what
- 15:53Speaker 1: we're talking about. And Prince Andrew, you were part of it.
- 15:57Speaker 1: You were there, and according to Virginia, not only were
- 16:04Speaker 1: you there, you took part in the abuse. So no
- 16:08Speaker 1: matter what your boy Brettler has to say, no matter
- 16:11Speaker 1: how many people you can dig up to file lawsuits,
- 16:15Speaker 1: it's not gonna be enough because at the end of
- 16:18Speaker 1: the day, you know what matters, not your technicalities, not
- 16:22Speaker 1: your loopholes, and certainly not your two thousand dollars an
- 16:26Speaker 1: hour lawyer. The truth matters. And when you get in
- 16:30Speaker 1: front of that jury, then we'll see who's really the liar.
- 16:38Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me. You can do that
- 16:40Speaker 1: at Bobby Kopuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo Bby
- 16:45Speaker 1: c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can
- 16:49Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore c ap
- 16:54Speaker 1: u Cci. The link that we discussed can be found
- 16:58Speaker 1: in the description box. As for me, well, I'll be
- 17:02Speaker 1: back later on folks, and you well keep the flags
- 17:06Speaker 1: of discontent flying. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey
- 17:11Speaker 1: Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Capuci, and this is
- 17:17Speaker 1: a morning update. What's up everybody in greetings from Sin City. Today,
- 17:24Speaker 1: we're going to continue talking about Prince Andrew a little
- 17:27Speaker 1: bit more and add a little bit more context, a
- 17:30Speaker 1: little bit more meat to the bone. Now we left
- 17:34Speaker 1: it off yesterday. The phone call occurred. Prince Andrew has
- 17:39Speaker 1: a high profile Hollywood lawyer on tab to protect him,
- 17:45Speaker 1: and according to Prince Andrew and his new lawyer, well,
- 17:50Speaker 1: they weren't served properly. Now the judge, Judge Kaplan, is
- 17:56Speaker 1: not really looking to deal with any bullshit. It seems
- 17:59Speaker 1: like in this case, he already hammered them yesterday telling
- 18:03Speaker 1: them that they were making this way more complicated than
- 18:07Speaker 1: it needed to be and basically telling them that they're
- 18:13Speaker 1: not going to be able to obfuscate here. They're going
- 18:15Speaker 1: to have to come correct and they're going to have
- 18:18Speaker 1: to provide some information to the court because these judges,
- 18:24Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I am telling you, they
- 18:27Speaker 1: do not like to feel disrespected. You want to talk
- 18:30Speaker 1: about narcissism, you want to talk about narcissists, Go ahead
- 18:33Speaker 1: and look at the bench and the judges that sit
- 18:36Speaker 1: on these benches, and not all of them, right, you know,
- 18:38Speaker 1: I don't deal in absolutes like other people. That's for
- 18:41Speaker 1: the Sith, but for me. You look at a lot
- 18:43Speaker 1: of these judges and they really really wield a lot
- 18:47Speaker 1: of power. I mean even you look in like the
- 18:50Speaker 1: family courts situation and how these judges wield extreme power
- 18:57Speaker 1: over situations of children being moved from homes and this,
- 19:02Speaker 1: that the other thing, and there's really not a lot
- 19:05Speaker 1: of oversight. So you start messing around with these judges
- 19:10Speaker 1: and you think you're gonna pull a fast one on
- 19:12Speaker 1: them because y'all the Prince of England, Well you're really
- 19:16Speaker 1: making a big mistake. Now if you get in front
- 19:19Speaker 1: of these judges and you know, you give them their
- 19:21Speaker 1: proper respect then whatever's whatever. But I'm talking about if
- 19:25Speaker 1: you just try and ignore what a judge's telling you,
- 19:28Speaker 1: if you try and ignore a case that you've been
- 19:31Speaker 1: summons you've received a summons to forget it. These judges
- 19:34Speaker 1: are gonna go ham on you. I believe the saying
- 19:37Speaker 1: used to be they'll go medieval on that ass. And
- 19:42Speaker 1: Judge Kaplan doesn't seem like he's going to want to
- 19:45Speaker 1: mess around with these technicalities in this BS right, and
- 19:48Speaker 1: why should he. There's been ample time for the Joe
- 19:53Speaker 1: Exotic of the Windsor family to step up to the
- 19:55Speaker 1: plate and do the right thing, but he continuously acts
- 20:00Speaker 1: like the coward that he is, hides ducks behind mommy
- 20:06Speaker 1: and refuses to answer any questions whatsoever. So the talk
- 20:13Speaker 1: going into this was that that might have been the
- 20:16Speaker 1: strategy that he was going to employ. I told you
- 20:19Speaker 1: all here I thought that was a bad idea, and
- 20:21Speaker 1: obviously his legal team did as well, considering they employed
- 20:25Speaker 1: mister Hollywood. So there's a quick recap of what went
- 20:31Speaker 1: on on that phone call yesterday and what we talked
- 20:34Speaker 1: about yesterday, I should say, And today we have an
- 20:36Speaker 1: article from the Sun, and I'm sure there'll be a
- 20:39Speaker 1: couple of gold nuggets in here to help add a
- 20:43Speaker 1: bit more context and to put a little bit more
- 20:46Speaker 1: meat on the bone. So let's jump into this article
- 20:49Speaker 1: from the US Sun and let's see what author Niemma
- 20:54Speaker 1: Kavanaugh has to say headline, face up, Prince Andrew could
- 20:59Speaker 1: be forced to give evidence if he dodges Virginia Roberts
- 21:02Speaker 1: rape claims, says Epstein, victim's lawyer. Let's look caveat there, right,
- 21:08Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about Lisa Bloom in this article.
- 21:11Speaker 1: I know I could hear you all sighing and rolling
- 21:13Speaker 1: your eyes from there. I agree. But when we're talking
- 21:18Speaker 1: about this situation and we're talking about Prince Andrew again,
- 21:22Speaker 1: every one of these articles will offer up a golden
- 21:25Speaker 1: nugget or two. And as much as I dislike Lisa Bloom,
- 21:29Speaker 1: a broken clock is right twice a day even, and
- 21:33Speaker 1: what she's saying here is correct. So let's jump into
- 21:37Speaker 1: this article and let's see what's what. Prince Andrew could
- 21:42Speaker 1: be forced to give evidence if he continues to dodge
- 21:44Speaker 1: and duck Virginia Roberts rape claims. The lawyer representing Jeffrey
- 21:48Speaker 1: Epstein's survivors has said that's kind of a broad statement.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom is representing a few survivors, but to say
- 21:58Speaker 1: she's representing these survivors is a bit of a stretch. Right.
- 22:02Speaker 1: So when I think of lawyers representing survivors of Jeffrey Epstein,
- 22:06Speaker 1: obviously we think about Bradley Edwards, David Boys, Cigarette McCauley,
- 22:19Speaker 1: Spencer Covin, right, we don't think about Lisa Bloom, not
- 22:24Speaker 1: the first person that comes to mind. Right, So again,
- 22:27Speaker 1: she is certainly a fame chaser, somebody that likes to
- 22:30Speaker 1: insert her name, and somebody who you can almost guarantee
- 22:36Speaker 1: is going to be looking to get the spotlight put
- 22:39Speaker 1: on them for at least a few seconds in any
- 22:41Speaker 1: one of these kinds of cases. Speaking on a BBC
- 22:47Speaker 1: Radio four show this morning, lawyer Lisa Bloom said that
- 22:51Speaker 1: a UK court could get involved if the Duke of
- 22:54Speaker 1: York refuses to be questioned willingly. And that's a fact, right,
- 22:58Speaker 1: She's not lying about that. According to the treaty and
- 23:02Speaker 1: the agreements between the United States and the UK, that
- 23:05Speaker 1: is certainly a possibility. The UK courts most certainly could
- 23:10Speaker 1: step in here and force Andrew into giving this deposition.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Speaking to the authorities and getting this whole entire thing
- 23:18Speaker 1: under way. Again, the question is, just like in America,
- 23:23Speaker 1: is there the willpower to go that far end up
- 23:27Speaker 1: until this point? Unfortunately the powers that be well, they
- 23:32Speaker 1: don't seem to have that kind of willpower. No one
- 23:38Speaker 1: is above the law, she told today. We have legal
- 23:40Speaker 1: cooperation agreement between the US and the UK. We have
- 23:44Speaker 1: a system and a process, and especially when it comes
- 23:47Speaker 1: to sexual assault cases, Miss Roberts is entitled to her
- 23:51Speaker 1: day in court. He's entitled to present all his defenses.
- 23:55Speaker 1: You see, I think we're forgetting a lot about that part. Right.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Prince Andrew should be looking at this as an opportunity
- 24:02Speaker 1: to clear his name, an opportunity to come forward and say, hey,
- 24:06Speaker 1: look there's been a lot of confusion here. I had
- 24:08Speaker 1: nothing to do with any of this. I wasn't part
- 24:11Speaker 1: of this. And here's what I know about Jeffrey Epstein.
- 24:14Speaker 1: But he can't do that, Kenny, because he knows what
- 24:20Speaker 1: he did. And a man who is honest, a man
- 24:23Speaker 1: who has integrity, a man who has a set of
- 24:26Speaker 1: non negotiable life principles, would never ever be caught dead
- 24:32Speaker 1: doing what Prince Andrew is doing. Right, now, I mean,
- 24:37Speaker 1: if he was to go see Don Corleone, he'd get
- 24:40Speaker 1: grabbed by the collar of his shirt, slapped in the
- 24:43Speaker 1: face and told to act like a man. And that's
- 24:47Speaker 1: the easy route. If he went to Mama Capuci's house, however,
- 24:52Speaker 1: well I already told you, folks the outcome of that.
- 24:58Speaker 1: There are many ordinary cases ever every day where citizens
- 25:01Speaker 1: of the UK are acquired to answer questions under oath
- 25:04Speaker 1: and depositions in US cases and vice versa, because we
- 25:08Speaker 1: have a friendly agreement between the two countries. With that said,
- 25:11Speaker 1: I need to digress a second here, and the lady
- 25:14Speaker 1: who ran over that boy in England, the one who
- 25:18Speaker 1: claimed diplomatic privilege and all of that shit, she should
- 25:20Speaker 1: be extradited to England to face charges for reckless driving
- 25:23Speaker 1: and manslaughter or whatever the equivalent is in England. This
- 25:28Speaker 1: is a two way street, no pun intended, and we
- 25:31Speaker 1: should honor our agreements in America as well. One of
- 25:34Speaker 1: the things that really agitates me, one of the many
- 25:37Speaker 1: things I should say that agitates me about the government
- 25:39Speaker 1: here in America is they talk a big game, but
- 25:46Speaker 1: they walk around like they're pigeonfooted. Under the Hague Evidence Convention,
- 25:53Speaker 1: English courts must assist US courts to obtain oral and
- 25:57Speaker 1: documentary evidence from a witness who is a resident in
- 26:00Speaker 1: either England or Wales. Yeah, and that's a good agreement, right. Look,
- 26:05Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how anyone in America could
- 26:08Speaker 1: look at the UK or you know, England and not
- 26:12Speaker 1: see are one of our greatest allies or somebody who
- 26:16Speaker 1: we should cooperate with on every single level. Our ways
- 26:20Speaker 1: of life are very very similar. Of course there's some differences.
- 26:23Speaker 1: But you could take a brit and put them in America,
- 26:27Speaker 1: or an American and put them in Britain and they'll
- 26:29Speaker 1: get along just fine for the most part. Right. Of course,
- 26:33Speaker 1: they'll be cultural norms that have to be experienced and
- 26:36Speaker 1: all of that. But my point is we're very much
- 26:38Speaker 1: more alike than we are different, and that goes for
- 26:41Speaker 1: probably most people in the world if you really get
- 26:44Speaker 1: down to it. Of Course, the loud mouths they'll always,
- 26:47Speaker 1: you know, spotlight the differences, right because they don't want
- 26:49Speaker 1: you to know that we're all the same. They want
- 26:52Speaker 1: you to think that everybody's your enemy, everybody's the fucking boogeyman,
- 26:55Speaker 1: and all of that nonsense. But we know, as citizens,
- 26:59Speaker 1: especially now now citizens who are in the public square
- 27:02Speaker 1: using the Internet, who coordinate and speak with each other
- 27:05Speaker 1: on a regular basis. There's no you know, drape over
- 27:11Speaker 1: the rest of the world anymore. We all understand who
- 27:13Speaker 1: everybody is, and we all know that we have more
- 27:16Speaker 1: in common than we have different and it's only a
- 27:19Speaker 1: handful of agitators around the world that continue to try
- 27:24Speaker 1: and stir shit up. Asked who could force the Prince
- 27:29Speaker 1: to sit in a US court to face the allegations.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Ms Bloom said it would be a UK court that
- 27:34Speaker 1: would enforce it. Just as in my country. If a
- 27:37Speaker 1: witness is needed for a case in England, they are
- 27:40Speaker 1: required to cooperate. That is absolutely true. There are severe
- 27:44Speaker 1: penalties if you don't cooperate. Look, if you're subpoenaed by
- 27:47Speaker 1: your court, especially in your home country, and you don't
- 27:50Speaker 1: show up, you're gonna be held in contempt. You're gonna
- 27:55Speaker 1: be held They're gonna have all kinds of charges for you.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Once again, these feudal lords that we call judges, they
- 28:00Speaker 1: don't like to be screwed with. And you know, people
- 28:03Speaker 1: talk about awe. If I'm scared of the cops, right man,
- 28:05Speaker 1: I'm scared of judges. That's who I fear the most.
- 28:08Speaker 1: And it's a shame because we shouldn't fear anybody as citizens, right,
- 28:11Speaker 1: no federal government official. They work for us, but we
- 28:15Speaker 1: have seemed to have forgotten that. So these judges, they
- 28:18Speaker 1: hold great power over your life and over your well
- 28:22Speaker 1: being even and if you find yourself in front of
- 28:25Speaker 1: one of them, you better hope that they're having a
- 28:27Speaker 1: good day. She added. You have to jump through some hoops,
- 28:32Speaker 1: you have to submit some paperwork and affidavits and so forth,
- 28:35Speaker 1: but eventually witnesses and people who were sued need to comply.
- 28:40Speaker 1: It comes after a US judge slammed Prince Andrew's lawyer
- 28:43Speaker 1: for wasting time after he argue that the case should
- 28:46Speaker 1: be dismissed. Yeah, that's probably the result you're going to
- 28:51Speaker 1: get if you show up into a judge's courtroom after
- 28:54Speaker 1: you've been avoiding shit for so long and talk about, ah,
- 28:57Speaker 1: well this should be a this should just be ejected
- 28:59Speaker 1: out of the car. We shouldn't even try this case,
- 29:03Speaker 1: Judge Kaplan sitting there like, bro, what are you talking about?
- 29:06Speaker 1: I was supposed to be playing golf right now, and
- 29:08Speaker 1: instead I'm sitting here dealing with your dumbass. Nah, no
- 29:12Speaker 1: more technicalities, no more loopholes. Let's get the ball rolling.
- 29:18Speaker 1: The Duke of York's hot shot Hollywood lawyer branded it
- 29:21Speaker 1: baseless during a thirty minute telephone pre trial hearing on Monday.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Funny that Andrew Bretler, by the way, worked for the
- 29:28Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. Used to be one of
- 29:30Speaker 1: the sdnycats, so he knows what's going on over there.
- 29:34Speaker 1: And again, what do I always tell you guys, It's
- 29:36Speaker 1: about the influence that you're paying for, not the courtroom behavior.
- 29:40Speaker 1: It's only the old days. You know, you watch a
- 29:44Speaker 1: movie where the lawyer shows up and he's battering people. Right, Well,
- 29:48Speaker 1: my cousin Vinnie isn't showing up here, folks. A super lawyer,
- 29:55Speaker 1: Andrew Bretler told the Federal Court in New York that
- 29:57Speaker 1: it was non viable and potentially unlawful case. And this
- 30:02Speaker 1: guy is a super lawyer, There's no doubt about that.
- 30:05Speaker 1: He has all sorts of accolades and won all kinds
- 30:11Speaker 1: of awards in Hollywood. You know, another one of these
- 30:14Speaker 1: big deal hot shot lawyers that you or I would
- 30:17Speaker 1: never be able to afford. A lawyer that would never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
- 30:21Speaker 1: ever ever ever take one of our cases pro bono.
- 30:25Speaker 1: And you know the funny thing is, guess who he
- 30:28Speaker 1: clerked for. Remember Richard Berman? Yeah, you remember Judge Berman, right,
- 30:33Speaker 1: the Honorable Richard Jermy Berman of the U. S. District
- 30:37Speaker 1: Court of the Southern District of New York. Yeah, well
- 30:40Speaker 1: this lawyer, mister Brettler, he was his clerk. So again,
- 30:44Speaker 1: you know the circle of buddies, they're all friends. They're
- 30:47Speaker 1: all you know, hanging out with each other. They've all
- 30:50Speaker 1: worked with each other before. The game's rigged, folks, And
- 30:54Speaker 1: unless you pursue your case in a very passionate and
- 31:01Speaker 1: aggressive manner, you'll be lucky to ever get some justice
- 31:04Speaker 1: in this country. You know, these guys are all running
- 31:07Speaker 1: around with each other at you know, the golf courses,
- 31:11Speaker 1: and you know these parties they go to and all
- 31:14Speaker 1: of that jazz. It's like wrestling, right, they act like
- 31:17Speaker 1: they dislike each other, then behind the scenes they're all boys.
- 31:22Speaker 1: He added he believed in two thousand and nine settlements
- 31:25Speaker 1: signed by his accuser with pedophile Epstein released the Duke
- 31:29Speaker 1: and others from any and all potential liability the judge said,
- 31:34Speaker 1: you have a pretty high degree of certainty that he
- 31:37Speaker 1: can be served sooner than later. Let's cut out all
- 31:40Speaker 1: the technicalities and get to the substance. So basically the
- 31:44Speaker 1: judge told them, right, Judge Kaplin is telling them, stop
- 31:46Speaker 1: the bullshit, accept this served summons and bring your ass
- 31:51Speaker 1: to court. Let's get kracking. Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered a
- 32:01Speaker 1: week long delay on proceedings on Monday. So there's another
- 32:04Speaker 1: little tidbit. We didn't have that tidbit yesterday in the
- 32:07Speaker 1: article that we read. I don't believe. So we have
- 32:10Speaker 1: a delay for one week and they're going to have
- 32:14Speaker 1: to come correct in that week, meaning the team for
- 32:20Speaker 1: Andrew is going to have to bring something to the table.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Them showing up and saying, oh, this isn't legit is
- 32:26Speaker 1: not going to work. It will allow Virginia Roberts lawyers
- 32:32Speaker 1: to make any request to the court for help serving
- 32:35Speaker 1: the lawsuit. However, ms Bloom suggested that the case is
- 32:39Speaker 1: likely to go ahead despite the Prince's lawyer contesting the lawsuit.
- 32:43Speaker 1: One he can contest it until the cows come home,
- 32:47Speaker 1: but if the court feels that it's necessary and the
- 32:50Speaker 1: court wants to proceed. That is exactly what's going to happen,
- 32:55Speaker 1: mister Joe exotic of the Windsor family. No amount of
- 33:01Speaker 1: rial blood is going to stop that trend from leaving
- 33:04Speaker 1: the station. Mister Brettler last night said that Andrew was
- 33:10Speaker 1: not properly served with the lawsuit, rendering it null and void.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Miss Roberts lawyers insist the Royal has been served court
- 33:18Speaker 1: papers in accordance with English and international law and according
- 33:25Speaker 1: to the parameters, it would certainly seem as that would
- 33:28Speaker 1: be the case right that the process server served this
- 33:32Speaker 1: correctly and things should get moving in the right direction.
- 33:39Speaker 1: They say. A copy of the summons was left with
- 33:41Speaker 1: police at the gate of Windsor Royal Lodge on August
- 33:44Speaker 1: twenty seventh. However, Andrew's teams say correct procedure wasn't followed,
- 33:49Speaker 1: as the paper should be served through a British court official.
- 33:53Speaker 1: And you see what they do here, right. They love
- 33:55Speaker 1: to play this game of technicalities. And I know I
- 33:57Speaker 1: talk about it a lot, but it's a big, big
- 34:00Speaker 1: sticking point here, folks. When we're talking about these people
- 34:03Speaker 1: and the behavior they're engaging in, the technicalities are the
- 34:09Speaker 1: lifeblood of the ruling class. It is how they are
- 34:13Speaker 1: able to move without ever being smacked in the ass
- 34:18Speaker 1: when it comes to their crimes or their missteps or
- 34:21Speaker 1: their financial mouthfeasance. Meanwhile, they continuously add laws for you
- 34:28Speaker 1: and I and the Biden administrations taking it a step
- 34:31Speaker 1: further even and becoming extremely, extremely oppressive when it comes
- 34:38Speaker 1: to financials. I'm gonna talk a little bit more about
- 34:41Speaker 1: that over on the other podcast, Beyond the Horizon. But
- 34:45Speaker 1: it's terrifying. Honestly, it's terrifying. Manhattan Federal Court Judge Lewis
- 34:53Speaker 1: Kaplan tonight gave Miss Robert's legal team another week to
- 34:57Speaker 1: serve the Prince sixty one with the papers. Mister Roberts
- 35:00Speaker 1: claim she was trafficked by Andrew's former friend and convicted
- 35:04Speaker 1: sex offender Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with the Prince,
- 35:08Speaker 1: so got this extra week. The judge is telling them,
- 35:12Speaker 1: don't fuck around, is what he is. Basically what Captain
- 35:14Speaker 1: told Andrews people one week, accept these fucking papers or
- 35:19Speaker 1: there's going to be hell to pay, basically is what
- 35:21Speaker 1: the judge is telling them. American prosecutors have alleged that
- 35:27Speaker 1: the Prince has been unhelpful in their investigation into the
- 35:30Speaker 1: Epstein case. The district's former US attorney, Jeffrey Berman, had
- 35:34Speaker 1: declared in a statement that the royal provided zero cooperation
- 35:38Speaker 1: and he hasn't provided any cooperation. Right, we don't need
- 35:42Speaker 1: Berman to tell us that we know this dude hasn't
- 35:44Speaker 1: provided any cooperation. We know old boy hasn't said a
- 35:47Speaker 1: goddamn thing to the authorities, and we know he continues
- 35:50Speaker 1: to run, duck and dodge like ripped tornas throwing wrenches
- 35:53Speaker 1: at him. Don't you all find this absurd? You got
- 36:01Speaker 1: I'm reading articles of people who got who are getting
- 36:03Speaker 1: busted for unemployment fraud for two or three thousand dollars,
- 36:09Speaker 1: And now you got people like Prince Andrews still skirting
- 36:11Speaker 1: the law. You got the Core four not in prison,
- 36:14Speaker 1: you got Indyke and Con running free. And that's just
- 36:17Speaker 1: the beginnings of what's going on out there. Our justice
- 36:23Speaker 1: system is absolutely fucked The priorities are fucked up. The
- 36:28Speaker 1: way that they manage things are messed up, and the
- 36:31Speaker 1: whole entire situation is nothing more than a dumpster fire.
- 36:39Speaker 1: When you look at what's going on with this prosecution,
- 36:46Speaker 1: it just makes me shake my head. When you compare
- 36:48Speaker 1: it to Rainieri or r Kelly. Now, don't get me wrong,
- 36:56Speaker 1: Maxwell looking at eighty years is certainly a good sign
- 36:59Speaker 1: and a good thing. But if they would have just
- 37:03Speaker 1: went the Rico route, all of this would have been
- 37:05Speaker 1: avoided because Prince Andrew would have been under that umbrella
- 37:11Speaker 1: of Rico, considering his ties to Jeffrey Epstein. But the
- 37:15Speaker 1: real sticking point would be the money that was sent
- 37:19Speaker 1: to Fergie that my friends would an envelope the both
- 37:25Speaker 1: of them under a Rico umbrella, and things would be
- 37:32Speaker 1: a lot hotter for the Prince. Instead, Virginia still has
- 37:40Speaker 1: to jump through all of these hoops, has to jump
- 37:42Speaker 1: through all of these pitfalls and avoid a game of
- 37:47Speaker 1: technicalities and loopholes. Unfortunately for the Prince, though, it seems
- 37:55Speaker 1: like the time for obfuscation and honoring himself health is
- 38:01Speaker 1: quickly coming to an end. If you'd like to contact me,
- 38:05Speaker 1: you can do that at Bobby Capucci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 38:08Speaker 1: That's bo Bby cap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 38:14Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore
- 38:19Speaker 1: cap you Cci. All of the links that go with
- 38:22Speaker 1: this episode can be found in the description box. All right, folks.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I'll be back later on and we'll pick up where
- 38:30Speaker 1: we left off and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Earlier today, Judge Kaplin made a ruling and Prince Andrew
- 38:41Speaker 1: is going to have to face these accusations brought against
- 38:45Speaker 1: him by Virginia Roberts in a court of law. Now.
- 38:49Speaker 1: He's been trying to get these dismissed for quite some time,
- 38:53Speaker 1: and he has attempted to use loopholes and technicalities to
- 38:59Speaker 1: get let it tossed. Thankfully, Judge Kaplan is not having it,
- 39:04Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew is going to have to answer these
- 39:08Speaker 1: accusations in a court of law. Now, of course, this
- 39:11Speaker 1: is not a criminal case, right, So it's not like
- 39:14Speaker 1: he's going to go to prison because of this. But
- 39:17Speaker 1: at the very least he's being held responsible in some
- 39:22Speaker 1: aspect of justice here, as opposed to him just sliding
- 39:28Speaker 1: underneath the radar and never being held to account. At
- 39:33Speaker 1: the very least, the spotlight's being put on him, and
- 39:36Speaker 1: people who might not have been aware of what was
- 39:39Speaker 1: going on are going to become aware of what's going
- 39:42Speaker 1: on very quickly, just like with Epstein and then the
- 39:45Speaker 1: Maxwell trial. How many folks out there had no idea
- 39:48Speaker 1: what was really going on with these two. I'm guessing
- 39:52Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I'm guessing a lot of
- 39:54Speaker 1: people that found their way to this podcast. I've got
- 39:58Speaker 1: a lot of emails from a lot of listeners who
- 40:01Speaker 1: really had no idea the true scope of what was
- 40:04Speaker 1: going on here. You know, they heard the rumors and
- 40:06Speaker 1: the innuendo, and then of course some of the more
- 40:09Speaker 1: batshit crazy conspiracy theory stuff, and you know, that drives
- 40:14Speaker 1: people away. They're like, oh, the whole thing's a conspiracy theory.
- 40:17Speaker 1: But then they start to get some real information about
- 40:21Speaker 1: what went on here, information backed up with sources from
- 40:24Speaker 1: the media such as I DO, or with court documentation
- 40:28Speaker 1: or whatever, and people start to realize that this was
- 40:32Speaker 1: never a conspiracy theory. This was a criminal conspiracy from
- 40:36Speaker 1: the very beginning. And somebody like Prince Andrew, of his status,
- 40:42Speaker 1: of his wealth, of his power, being involved with someone
- 40:46Speaker 1: like Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. It would seem absurd
- 40:50Speaker 1: to people who are not following something like this closely,
- 40:54Speaker 1: but the reality of the situation is the reality of life.
- 40:59Speaker 1: These all elites, it seems like all of them are
- 41:02Speaker 1: wired incorrectly and that all of them are fed up.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Once you get a certain amount of money, you automatically
- 41:09Speaker 1: become some kind of robber baron, it would seem. Now,
- 41:13Speaker 1: when I talk about the rich, I'm not talking about
- 41:16Speaker 1: people that are making you know, a couple of million
- 41:18Speaker 1: dollars or anything like that. I'm talking about generational wealth,
- 41:22Speaker 1: the kind of wealth you see with these hedge fund
- 41:26Speaker 1: type people, with the Maxwells of the world. Those are
- 41:30Speaker 1: the uber elite, the super elite, not what I call
- 41:33Speaker 1: the working rich. The working rich are the people who
- 41:36Speaker 1: might have accumulated a few million dollars throughout their years
- 41:39Speaker 1: of working, but they're not part of the party either,
- 41:42Speaker 1: and they're not invited up to the top floor no
- 41:47Speaker 1: more than you or I are welcome. So when I
- 41:51Speaker 1: talk about the rich, I'm talking about, you know, the
- 41:53Speaker 1: Trumpian class of rich, the billions when you have that
- 41:56Speaker 1: be after your name, even the hundreds of millions, right,
- 41:59Speaker 1: These people are they're all wired funny. And then they'll
- 42:03Speaker 1: get up there and they'll talk about, Oh, I give
- 42:05Speaker 1: to this charity or I give to that charity, and
- 42:08Speaker 1: then you hear two weeks later that they were involved
- 42:11Speaker 1: in a trafficking ring, or they were involved in Nexium
- 42:14Speaker 1: or whatever it is, the truth of the matter is
- 42:20Speaker 1: that these people, the so called elite, the robber barons,
- 42:22Speaker 1: the people in the financial sector, they don't care about
- 42:26Speaker 1: any of us. And if you think someone like Prince
- 42:29Speaker 1: Andrew cares about, you know, the most vulnerable amongst us,
- 42:34Speaker 1: or the poor or the downtrodden, he doesn't care. All
- 42:39Speaker 1: he cares about is enriching himself, increasing his wealth and
- 42:43Speaker 1: continuing to you know, climb that social ladder that all
- 42:47Speaker 1: of them are trying to climb. And if anybody thought
- 42:52Speaker 1: he was ever gonna take responsibility what he did here,
- 42:55Speaker 1: I mean for what he did here of his own accord,
- 42:58Speaker 1: you weren't paying attention. I saw someone post earlier on
- 43:02Speaker 1: Twitter talking about how it's time for Prince Andrew to
- 43:06Speaker 1: hire some lawyers that are going to try and ruin
- 43:08Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts breaking news, dumbass, He's already done that. What
- 43:14Speaker 1: do you think, Brettler is what do you think Marty
- 43:15Speaker 1: Singer in the firm that they work at and that
- 43:18Speaker 1: Marty Singer owns, does they specialize in this? I uploaded
- 43:25Speaker 1: two episodes, one about both about Marty Singer excuse me
- 43:29Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew Episode one and two. Episode one will
- 43:34Speaker 1: be uploaded at eight thirty and then episode two will
- 43:40Speaker 1: come after that. But it's a look back episode of
- 43:43Speaker 1: when Prince Andrew first announced that he was hiring Bretler
- 43:47Speaker 1: and what my response to it all was. I knew
- 43:49Speaker 1: exactly what the strategy was going to be then, because
- 43:53Speaker 1: that's the kind of lawyers that these dudes are. So
- 43:57Speaker 1: there's so many people who have no idea about this
- 44:00Speaker 1: case but who liked to interject themselves into it. It's
- 44:03Speaker 1: so beyond odd to me, Like, if you don't know
- 44:07Speaker 1: about something, why are you popping off about it? You know,
- 44:11Speaker 1: one thing I've learned in my forty one years on
- 44:14Speaker 1: this planet is that I don't know anything, barely know
- 44:18Speaker 1: my name at half the time, never mind you know,
- 44:20Speaker 1: thinking I know everything about everything. But Prince Andrew hiring
- 44:27Speaker 1: these lawyers signaled right away what his strategy was going
- 44:30Speaker 1: to be, and this ruling today from Judge Caplan is
- 44:35Speaker 1: also signaling that this strategy might not be the best
- 44:38Speaker 1: one for him and might not be the way to victory.
- 44:42Speaker 1: In fact, honestly, I don't think there is a way
- 44:45Speaker 1: to victory for this dude. I think that he's going
- 44:49Speaker 1: to have to pay up civilly here, there's going to
- 44:53Speaker 1: be a judgment against him one way or the other.
- 44:55Speaker 1: If it ever comes down, if he ever at pays it,
- 44:58Speaker 1: that's a whole other matter. But I think the judgment
- 45:01Speaker 1: eventually is going to go against him, and as far
- 45:04Speaker 1: as criminally speaking, I highly doubt it. But this is
- 45:10Speaker 1: this signals bad news for his civil case here with
- 45:13Speaker 1: Judge Kaplan already basically saying, look, this getting off on
- 45:18Speaker 1: the technicality stuff isn't going to work. You're gonna have
- 45:21Speaker 1: to prove it in the court of law and prove
- 45:23Speaker 1: the merits of what you're saying here. So let's jump
- 45:27Speaker 1: into this article from CNN and let's see what Eric
- 45:31Speaker 1: Levinson and Lauren de Valley have to say. Headline. Judge
- 45:38Speaker 1: rules sexual assault lawsuit against Prince Andrew can move ahead.
- 45:44Speaker 1: A federal judge in New York on Wednesday denied a
- 45:47Speaker 1: motion to dismiss laws a lawsuit against Prince Andrew filed
- 45:51Speaker 1: by Virginia Roberts, who alleges she was sexually trafficked to
- 45:55Speaker 1: the Royal when she was under age. Now, all of
- 45:58Speaker 1: this alleges and this that the other thing. That's fine,
- 46:01Speaker 1: and well, when we're talking about the situation with Andrew,
- 46:04Speaker 1: nothing has been proved. It has been proved in court, right,
- 46:06Speaker 1: so of course it's alleged. But when we talk about
- 46:10Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, I don't know why they still say one
- 46:13Speaker 1: of his accusers pretty obvious that Jeffrey Epstein did what
- 46:18Speaker 1: these girls are saying to them, it's pretty obvious he
- 46:20Speaker 1: did it, or the estate wouldn't pay out all that money,
- 46:24Speaker 1: he wouldn't have gotten arrested the second time. Maxwell wouldn't
- 46:27Speaker 1: be indicted. You pick up what I'm putting down here, folks.
- 46:30Speaker 1: So there's no alleged when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
- 46:33Speaker 1: Come on, that's ridiculous. Miss Roberts's complaint is neither unintelligible,
- 46:39Speaker 1: nor vague nor ambiguous, Judge Lewis Caplan wrote in the ruling.
- 46:43Speaker 1: It alleges discrete incidents of sexual abuse in particular circumstances
- 46:48Speaker 1: at three identified and identifiable locations. It identifies to whom
- 46:53Speaker 1: it attributes that sexual abuse. So basically, Caplan is saying
- 46:57Speaker 1: there's grounds here. There is. She is saying that the
- 47:01Speaker 1: exact spots where it took place. She's saying that the
- 47:06Speaker 1: locations are identifiable, and she's identifying whom it happened with.
- 47:12Speaker 1: So I don't know how anyone who's looking at this
- 47:15Speaker 1: from a non biased view like a judge should be
- 47:19Speaker 1: could say, Ah, yeah, I'm gonna dismiss this. There's nothing there.
- 47:23Speaker 1: And the fact that Andrew's two thousand dollars an hour
- 47:26Speaker 1: lawyers thought that this strategy was gonna work is it's
- 47:30Speaker 1: just crazy to me. It is just crazy to me
- 47:33Speaker 1: that they can't read the temperature of the room at
- 47:35Speaker 1: this point. Still Roberts alleged in the lawsuit that the
- 47:40Speaker 1: late financier, the late financier, that's what they're still calling
- 47:44Speaker 1: this guy, the late financier. But if it was one
- 47:46Speaker 1: of their political opponents, they'd be calling him, you know,
- 47:51Speaker 1: Himmler or some other crazy insert name here. You see
- 47:55Speaker 1: what they do, folks. They pick and choose what they
- 47:57Speaker 1: want to pour down your throat, and they act like
- 48:01Speaker 1: attacking their political opponents is more important than you know,
- 48:05Speaker 1: naming Jeffrey Epstein for what he is, the late financier.
- 48:08Speaker 1: What are you going to offend Jeffrey Epstein? What's he
- 48:11Speaker 1: going to come back from the dead? And sue you.
- 48:13Speaker 1: Let's just call the guy what he is, okay, A pedophile,
- 48:16Speaker 1: a human trafficker, a piece of trash. You know, all
- 48:19Speaker 1: of that works. Trafficker enforced her to have sex with
- 48:23Speaker 1: his friends, including the Prince, and that Andrew was aware
- 48:27Speaker 1: she was under age seventeen in the US at the time.
- 48:30Speaker 1: She alleges the Prince sexually abused her at Epstein's private
- 48:34Speaker 1: island in the US Virgin Islands, at his mansion in Manhattan,
- 48:37Speaker 1: and at his former girlfriend, co conspirator, fellow human trafficker
- 48:42Speaker 1: General all around scuzbag and bipudal serpent, Glene Maxwell's home
- 48:47Speaker 1: in London. Prince Andrew has denied the allegations and had
- 48:54Speaker 1: moved to dismiss the suit. CNN has reached out to
- 48:57Speaker 1: his attorneys for further comment. You know, they're not gonna come.
- 49:00Speaker 1: They have nothing to say. They don't want to say
- 49:02Speaker 1: anything because they know the deal. What can they possibly
- 49:05Speaker 1: say at this point that is going to help their cause.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Everything they say they've said in the courtroom already, and
- 49:12Speaker 1: it's not good. They're They're not out here to try
- 49:17Speaker 1: and win the pr battle anymore. It's a hatchet job.
- 49:20Speaker 1: That's why Brettler was hired. The ruling sets up a
- 49:24Speaker 1: dramatic series of legal proceedings for Queen Elizabeth the Second's
- 49:27Speaker 1: third child that could have major ramifications for Buckingham Palace.
- 49:32Speaker 1: The long running allegations against Andrew sixty one have already
- 49:36Speaker 1: dramatically tarnished his public standing. And he stepped back from
- 49:40Speaker 1: royal duties in late twenty nineteen, or did he? They
- 49:45Speaker 1: gave that perception, But it sure seems to me like
- 49:47Speaker 1: he was still, you know, hanging out around Balmoral, hanging
- 49:52Speaker 1: out with mom. What did he really have taken from him?
- 49:55Speaker 1: Some of those patronages still can come up with enough
- 49:59Speaker 1: money to to spend two grand an hour for lawyers, right,
- 50:02Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, I know. Mom's not paying for that,
- 50:06Speaker 1: right stop it. You know that the Queen is paying
- 50:08Speaker 1: for his legal fees one way or the other. And
- 50:11Speaker 1: you know that if there was a settlement here, she'd
- 50:13Speaker 1: be paying for that as well. Andrew has until July
- 50:17Speaker 1: fourteenth to potentially answer questions about the case under oath,
- 50:21Speaker 1: following a ruling made by Kaplan last year. If the
- 50:24Speaker 1: case is not settled, Prince Andrew could face a trial
- 50:27Speaker 1: date between September and December of twenty twenty two, so
- 50:33Speaker 1: obviously not anytime soon soon, but it is on the horizon,
- 50:37Speaker 1: and you know it's going to be keeping Uncle Touchy
- 50:40Speaker 1: up at night sweating. Even though he says he can't.
- 50:43Speaker 1: This guy is really dug himself a hole, hasn't he
- 50:47Speaker 1: Going on to that Emily Maitliss interview was one of
- 50:51Speaker 1: the worst decisions of this man's life. Well besides you know,
- 50:54Speaker 1: hanging out with Epstein and abusing traffic girls, but going
- 50:58Speaker 1: on to Emily may List of the show just made
- 51:01Speaker 1: it so much worse for him because he can't even
- 51:04Speaker 1: fall back on the I don't knows anymore or anything
- 51:07Speaker 1: like that, because he was completely exposed in that interview,
- 51:10Speaker 1: and anyone who watches it can tell the dude's lion.
- 51:13Speaker 1: It's not like he's up there being truthful with anybody
- 51:16Speaker 1: providing receipts pointing to this or that to say, hey,
- 51:20Speaker 1: look I'm innocent. You can talk to so and so.
- 51:23Speaker 1: Has he ever done any of that? And you would
- 51:25Speaker 1: think that if Buckingham Palace had evidence that would help
- 51:28Speaker 1: exonerate him, they would bring it forward. I'm guessing none
- 51:32Speaker 1: of that exists because when he was going to hang
- 51:34Speaker 1: out with Epstein. I'm sure it was a wink, wink, nudge,
- 51:37Speaker 1: nudge to whatever the security detail is to. You know,
- 51:40Speaker 1: how about we keep this one off the books. Boys,
- 51:42Speaker 1: let's keep this one off the record. Now. Do I
- 51:44Speaker 1: have evidence of that? No? But you don't think that happens.
- 51:48Speaker 1: You don't think these guys are buddy buddy with the Prince.
- 51:51Speaker 1: You don't think his security detail wants to be boys
- 51:53Speaker 1: with the Prince. Of course they do. Buckingham Palace declined,
- 52:00Speaker 1: saying we would not comment on what is an ongoing
- 52:03Speaker 1: legal matter, and that's been their approach pretty much throughout
- 52:06Speaker 1: this whole thing, to not comment. But you would think
- 52:09Speaker 1: that they'd come out and they'd show empathy towards the survivors.
- 52:13Speaker 1: But they don't really care about that. It's all about
- 52:15Speaker 1: protecting the firm, making sure the monarchy is protected, making
- 52:19Speaker 1: sure the queen isn't tarnished. Who cares about the girls
- 52:23Speaker 1: that were abused by Jeffrey Epstein's BFFs, I mean by
- 52:26Speaker 1: Prince Andrew's BFFs. I mean it's absurd, right, You would
- 52:31Speaker 1: think that the monarchy, the queen, they'd be coming forward
- 52:34Speaker 1: and they'd be saying, look, we have a lot of
- 52:36Speaker 1: empathy for what happened to these girls. We're gonna let
- 52:38Speaker 1: this legal process play out, and you know, we want
- 52:42Speaker 1: everyone to understand that you know something, but no, it's oh,
- 52:46Speaker 1: we have no idea, no comment. It's crazy. You people
- 52:50Speaker 1: represent England and that's the best you can do. Huh.
- 52:55Speaker 1: Robert's attorney, Sigurd McCauley said the judge's ruling is another
- 52:58Speaker 1: important step in vers r Ginia's heroic and determined pursuit
- 53:02Speaker 1: of justice as a survivor of sex trafficking. The civil
- 53:05Speaker 1: suit stems from the sprawling and disturbing allegations against Epstein,
- 53:09Speaker 1: the wealthy sex offender pedophile who befriended a series of
- 53:13Speaker 1: powerful men despite a sketchy history, a group of powerful
- 53:17Speaker 1: women as well. Let's not forget all of those powerful
- 53:20Speaker 1: women that were around Jeffrey Epstein as well. Remember, folks,
- 53:25Speaker 1: these everyone's a gray character, men and women alike, and
- 53:29Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein sure had his collection of both. Dittey. Epstein
- 53:34Speaker 1: pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight the state prostitution
- 53:37Speaker 1: charges and July nineteenth and July twenty nineteen was indicted
- 53:42Speaker 1: on federal sex trafficking charges. Prosecutors accused him of carrying
- 53:46Speaker 1: out a decades long scheme of sexual abuse of underage girls,
- 53:50Speaker 1: flying them on private planes to his properties in Florida,
- 53:53Speaker 1: New York, New Mexico, and the US Virgin Islands. He
- 53:57Speaker 1: died by suicide, allegedly in prison before he could face trial.
- 54:02Speaker 1: And it wasn't just him obviously, right, How about those
- 54:04Speaker 1: pilots that were flying all those girls around? They just
- 54:07Speaker 1: get carte blanche, They just get off because they go
- 54:09Speaker 1: and give a few words at the trial. I want
- 54:12Speaker 1: did they get an agreement? What kind of agreement did
- 54:14Speaker 1: they get? Did they get clemency, did they get immunity
- 54:17Speaker 1: for their testimony? Or did they just do it out
- 54:19Speaker 1: of the kindness of their souls? Where were they after
- 54:22Speaker 1: the first arrest? So what about all of the other
- 54:25Speaker 1: people that were involved? Here? You know, you have sex
- 54:28Speaker 1: trafficking and Epstein wasn't flying the plane, right, So everybody
- 54:33Speaker 1: who was involved needs to be caught up in this net. Maxwell,
- 54:38Speaker 1: his former girlfriend, a co conspirator, general all around scusbag
- 54:42Speaker 1: and human trafficker, was arrested in twenty twenty and accused
- 54:46Speaker 1: of facilitating the abuse scheme. A federal jury convicted her
- 54:50Speaker 1: in December on five federal accounts, including sex, trafficking a
- 54:54Speaker 1: minor and conspiracy. Roberts was not one of the four
- 54:58Speaker 1: women who testified Maxwell's true that they had been abused. Still,
- 55:03Speaker 1: she was mentioned in the trial when Carolyn, one of
- 55:05Speaker 1: the survivors, testified that Roberts had recruited her to come
- 55:09Speaker 1: to Epstein's home in Palm Beach, Florida. So again, I
- 55:14Speaker 1: don't know how Virginia wasn't called at this trial. I
- 55:17Speaker 1: don't know how some of the other survivors weren't called
- 55:19Speaker 1: at this trial. But hopefully at the sentencing portion they
- 55:23Speaker 1: will be called for those witness impact statements. Catherlin's ruling
- 55:31Speaker 1: wednesday allowed the lawsuit to continue, but he did not
- 55:34Speaker 1: determine the facts or validity of the case. So he's
- 55:37Speaker 1: letting it continue, meaning he wants to see more. He
- 55:40Speaker 1: didn't determine one way or the other what's true or
- 55:43Speaker 1: what's not true yet, but there is enough there for
- 55:47Speaker 1: him to want to see more and to get this
- 55:49Speaker 1: ball rolling. The Prince's attorneys that argued that Robert's lawsuit
- 55:54Speaker 1: violated the terms of her two thousand and nine settlement
- 55:57Speaker 1: agreement with Epstein in Florida, in which she agreed to
- 56:00Speaker 1: a general release of claims against Epstein and others. That settlement,
- 56:04Speaker 1: which was released to the public last week, shows that
- 56:07Speaker 1: Epstein paid Roberts five hundred thousand dollars to drop the
- 56:10Speaker 1: case without any admission of liability or fall. The Prince's
- 56:15Speaker 1: name does not explicitly appear as a party, so again
- 56:18Speaker 1: very vague. It goes against everything that Andrew was saying previously,
- 56:25Speaker 1: so I'm glad that Kaplan recognized it as the bs
- 56:27Speaker 1: that it is. However, Robert's attorney, David Boyce, argued the
- 56:32Speaker 1: settlement is irrelevant to her claims against the Prince, noting
- 56:36Speaker 1: Andrew did not know about it at the time and
- 56:39Speaker 1: it didn't apply to him. In the ruling, Kaplan wrote
- 56:42Speaker 1: that both sides put forward the reasonable interpretations of the
- 56:45Speaker 1: settlement's meaning. So what that means is he wants to
- 56:48Speaker 1: see more. He wants both sides to argue in front
- 56:51Speaker 1: of him their case so he can get to the
- 56:53Speaker 1: bottom of it. That's basically what Judge Kaplan is saying here.
- 56:58Speaker 1: The agreement therefore is ambiguous. Accordingly, the determination of the
- 57:03Speaker 1: meaning of the release language in the two thousand and
- 57:05Speaker 1: nine agreement must have waited further proceedings, he wrote. Roberts
- 57:09Speaker 1: brought her case under the Child Victims Act, a New
- 57:12Speaker 1: York state law enacted in twenty nineteen that temporarily expanded
- 57:16Speaker 1: the statute of limitations in child's sex abuse cases to
- 57:20Speaker 1: give survivors more opportunities to seek justice. Prince Andrew's attorneys
- 57:25Speaker 1: argued that the law is unconstitutional, but the judge rejected
- 57:29Speaker 1: the argument, citing another judge's analysis that this line of
- 57:33Speaker 1: argument was creative but without merit. So again loopholes and technicalities.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Oh the law is wrong. Oh, the law is unconstitutional.
- 57:43Speaker 1: Not that I'm going to defend myself with evidence at trial.
- 57:46Speaker 1: None of that what Roberts alleges in claims made prior
- 57:52Speaker 1: to filing her lawsuit. Robert's alleged that in two thousand
- 57:55Speaker 1: and one, Epstein brought her to London, where she was
- 57:59Speaker 1: introduced to Prince Andrew and went dancing at a nightclub
- 58:02Speaker 1: with Epstein, Maxwell and the Prince. In a BBC interview
- 58:06Speaker 1: broadcast in twenty and nineteen, Robert said she had been
- 58:09Speaker 1: taken to the Tramp nightclub, where Robert's alleged Andrew asked
- 58:14Speaker 1: her to dance and was sweating all over me. And
- 58:16Speaker 1: now you know, Andrew says he can't sweat. He you know,
- 58:20Speaker 1: he's not a sweater. He has a condition that makes
- 58:23Speaker 1: it so he can't sweat. Who's ever heard of something
- 58:26Speaker 1: so absurd. I know there's cases out there, right, but
- 58:29Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Andrew's one of these people as well. Right,
- 58:32Speaker 1: he hits the lottery for genetics as far as being
- 58:35Speaker 1: born or royal, and he just happens to have this
- 58:38Speaker 1: condition too. Huh, the only one in the family with it.
- 58:44Speaker 1: After Andrew has denied the claims, telling the BBC in
- 58:47Speaker 1: twenty and nineteen it didn't happen. I can absolutely categorically
- 58:51Speaker 1: tell you it never happened. I have no recollection of
- 58:54Speaker 1: ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever. Yes, see how the
- 58:58Speaker 1: story has changed. Huh. Now it's wait, it's unconstitutional. Wait
- 59:02Speaker 1: wait a minute, Hold on a minute. I had no
- 59:04Speaker 1: idea here. I'm protected. Oh, it's not that I don't
- 59:07Speaker 1: know her. Because now at the trial, when he goes
- 59:10Speaker 1: under oath, is he going to say the same thing
- 59:15Speaker 1: he claimed in that same interview that he could not
- 59:17Speaker 1: sweat due to a rare medical condition, and that on
- 59:20Speaker 1: the night he is alleged to have had sex assaulted.
- 59:23Speaker 1: You mean with Roberts, he was in fact taking his
- 59:26Speaker 1: daughter to a party at a pizza express restaurant and Woking,
- 59:30Speaker 1: southwest of London. Imagine all of these scumbags using their
- 59:34Speaker 1: kids and their families as some kind of alibi or
- 59:37Speaker 1: a crutch. Oh, I was taking my daughter to get pizza.
- 59:40Speaker 1: Meanwhile he's out molesting people and abusing people, absolutely disgusting.
- 59:47Speaker 1: Robert's lawyers asked Andrew in court filings to provide documents
- 59:51Speaker 1: proving both of those claims. Andrew's team responded that he
- 59:55Speaker 1: was unable to do so because he has no documents
- 59:58Speaker 1: proving a medical condition that prevents sweating and cannot identify
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: anyone he encountered at the pizza restaurant. Now remember he's
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: super famous, right If you were at the pizza restaurant
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: that night, you would remember, if you know, the Queen's
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: Sun was there. It would be like us going to
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: a pizza shop, I don't know, a pizza hut and
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: the Obamas are hanging out. You're gonna remember that. You
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: mean to tell me not one person remembers you at
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: this party. You can't get one person to corroborate your story.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: Huh oh yeah, we should all just believe you though.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: There should never be a trial here. You should never
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: be deposed, not you, Prince Andrew, give me a break already,
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: And thankfully, finally, after all this time, that's gonna change.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: And it looks like this dude's going to have to
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: sit down under oath and answer questions. And we all
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: know how well Andrew does when he's being interviewed. All right, folks,
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for tonight. Tomorrow morning, we'll be
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: back with a little bit more obvious. We'll catch up
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: on the Glenn Maxwell situation, and obviously tonight you can
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