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  Speaker 1: Podcast check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But Joe Regan Experience Trained by Day.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan Podcast by Night, All Day, Thanks record, good
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  Speaker 1: to see you, my friend. Wow, that was fast.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you too.
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  Speaker 1: It's road dude, you're organized. You're a rare. I actually,
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  Speaker 1: you know what.
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  Speaker 2: I normally don't bring notes, but I was talking to
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  Speaker 2: CALLI Means on the way over here, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole maha, you know
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  Speaker 2: movement and uh trying to officially put a committee together
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  Speaker 2: to to really give him some great talking points and
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  Speaker 2: then bring some of the big influencers together to help
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  Speaker 2: him message you know, around the media. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what are some of the wins that we've had in
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  Speaker 2: the last week that I don't know about?
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  Speaker 1: And so he just rattled him off, and there's some winds.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, so Trump formed this strong
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  Speaker 2: Kid's Commission, and if you remember when he first got
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  Speaker 2: into office, he actually by executive order, he authorized Bobby
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  Speaker 2: too to do a study with the you know, Health
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  Speaker 2: and Human Services to to look into the genesis and
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  Speaker 2: chronic disease because nobody, nobody's talking about it at the
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  Speaker 2: National Institute of Health, or National Library of Medicine or
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  Speaker 2: in our you know, public health policy. Nobody's talking about
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  Speaker 2: what's causing this page.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why they're not talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I could give you a couple of I could
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  Speaker 2: give you money. No way, you're a conspiracy theorist.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, you're down the rabbit holes of my problem.
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  Speaker 2: You think that just because people get paid, they do
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  Speaker 2: things that are shady.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's a weird thing to think. I
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  Speaker 1: should stop thinking that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for you know, we make one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and ten billion dollars a year on type two diabetes.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to put that out of business for Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they don't write money, no, no, no, they're they're like, hey, Stan,
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  Speaker 2: how would we get this off the balance sheet?
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  Speaker 1: Brow do we?
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  Speaker 2: How do we get rid of this is stinking out?
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  Speaker 1: So there's a business that relies on people being so
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  Speaker 1: disgusting that they get type two diabetes so bad with
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  Speaker 1: their diet, just eating pie and drinking soda till their
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  Speaker 1: body just starts to cave in. Yeah, but don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: We got that's worth how much a year, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and ten billion dollars Type two diabetes.
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  Speaker 1: A loon lot of money. It's not like that would
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  Speaker 1: change anybody's opinions on things.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean a lot of people could live on that.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: That could live on because that a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: could live on what's killing other people. Yeah, and that's funny,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people are buying yachts on what
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  Speaker 1: is killing people? Yes, wild.
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  Speaker 2: The interesting thing is is you know, look at it.
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  Speaker 2: You know our food stand program, which is but you know,
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  Speaker 2: the SNAP program, it's one of the biggest subsidies that
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  Speaker 2: we have in the government. One hundred and twenty billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year. Ten billion of that is going to
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  Speaker 2: subsidized sodas.
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  Speaker 1: I mean soda. It's it's an important part of the
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  Speaker 1: food pyramid. I think it's written in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's right up there with Lucky Charms, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Lucky Charms is above right above ground beef.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, grass, steak, and then you get to the top
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  Speaker 2: and you got and you got soda. It's so it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's phenomenal. And then the American Heart Association just
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  Speaker 2: ironically comes out in favor of soda in the SNAP
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  Speaker 2: food program, and.
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  Speaker 1: We went over that and we found out that they're
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  Speaker 1: they're paid by Pepsi and by Coca Cola. Wow, it's
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  Speaker 1: just so dark. Yeah, it's so it's so crazy. It
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  Speaker 1: is a hard association gets money from Coca Cola and Pepsi. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I I checked into my airbb here in Austin, which which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, love Austin. Man, I see that, I
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  Speaker 2: see why you came here. We covered it all on
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  Speaker 2: my podcast, so I'll go down that rabbit hole. But
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  Speaker 2: it truly is man.
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  Speaker 1: People are amazing. Food is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Went to this little restaurant called The Well, which I love,
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  Speaker 2: and they catered all my food. But there's like a
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  Speaker 2: serious wellness vibe here.
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  Speaker 1: But people, yeah, a lot of healthy people.
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  Speaker 2: So I checked into the Airbnb and I go into
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  Speaker 2: the closet, like the owner's closet wasn't wasn't locked. And
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  Speaker 2: I went into the owner's closet. Of course it's like.
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  Speaker 1: All cheerios and cookies and crackers.
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  Speaker 2: And I pulled a couple of bottles of these seed
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  Speaker 2: oils out and I did a little post about it
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  Speaker 2: because I was like, look at all the heart healthy
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  Speaker 2: labels on this right, and and we talked about seed
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  Speaker 2: oils last time. But it's you know, and I get
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  Speaker 2: attacked a lot for it for saying that the probably
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  Speaker 2: inncaturating fatty acids are bad for you. But a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times it's it's actually not the the plant itself,
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  Speaker 2: it's the distance from the plant to the table.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You explained that because you were explaining the other
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  Speaker 1: day to us. The process that that takes to turn
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  Speaker 1: rape seed oil, which is what they rape seed, was problematic,
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  Speaker 1: so they changed the canola oil. I always thought it
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  Speaker 1: was corn oil. Corn is good for you. Corn oil
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  Speaker 1: must be great for you. Oh oh, we're using canola
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  Speaker 1: oil cool peanuts. Please explain though, the process because it's
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  Speaker 1: so vile.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's insane. So rape seed canola is you know,
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  Speaker 2: a plant. We essentially you put it in a commercial
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  Speaker 2: press and it will come out gummy. And so the
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  Speaker 2: degummet you use something called hexane. And hexane if you
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  Speaker 2: go to National Institute Health or National ar Buried Medicine,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see that that is a known neurotoxin. Classified is
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  Speaker 2: a neurotoxin, same as fluoride, right, which is actually fluoro
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  Speaker 2: solicit acid. We'd get to that later, but so we
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  Speaker 2: degum it with hexane. And then you take this degumed
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  Speaker 2: oil and you heat it to four hundred and five degrees,
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  Speaker 2: which turns it rancid. I mean, there's no mechanism on
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  Speaker 2: Earth for temperatures to reach that much, especially plants to
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  Speaker 2: encounter those kind of temperatures. So now a d nature
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  Speaker 2: is it turns rancid. So now you it's putrefied and
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  Speaker 2: it smells, so now you have to deodorize it. So
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  Speaker 2: we deodorize it with sodium hydroxide, so we degum it
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  Speaker 2: with a powerful neurotoxin. We heat it to four to
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  Speaker 2: five degrees and turn it rancid, and then we deodorize
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  Speaker 2: it with a very powerful carcinogen. And then in some
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  Speaker 2: cases we bleach it and bottle it and put it
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  Speaker 2: on the shelf. You ever look at go to the
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  Speaker 2: grocery store and you see the entire grocery aisle. It's
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  Speaker 2: all these like wess and oils or vegetable oils, but
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  Speaker 2: they're all exactly the same color, like exactly they have
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  Speaker 2: that same beautiful clear hue that's out now the super
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  Speaker 2: You know, have you squeezed ten thousand watermelons into watermelon
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  Speaker 2: juice and put it all in the shelf.
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  Speaker 1: They were vary a little bit, they were very a
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  Speaker 1: little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no variance there. And so this is
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  Speaker 2: chemically controlled process and they and it's you know again
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  Speaker 2: not it's not back to the poly unsaturated fatty acids
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  Speaker 2: per se. It's these it's the proneflammatory process that they cause,
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  Speaker 2: these foam cells and the the inflammation in our arterial.
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  Speaker 1: Wall which actually calls cholesterol to the site of inflammation.
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  Speaker 2: And we blame cholesterol for a lot of the heart
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  Speaker 2: disease affois sclerosis, arterial sclerosis because it's at the scene
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  Speaker 2: of the crime. But it you know, rarely pulls the trigger.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's cholesterol is kind of like a fireman, right,
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  Speaker 2: It gets called to the fire to put the fire
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  Speaker 2: out right. And so the theory that if we had
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  Speaker 2: fewer firemen, we'd have less fires.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of absurd, right.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the that's the theory and healthy al cholesterol.
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  Speaker 2: It works in California. They would I get see them
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  Speaker 2: passing that legislation. You know what we need, we need
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  Speaker 2: less fireman. But but you know, so the theory that if
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  Speaker 2: we pushed down the fireman which was called to the
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  Speaker 2: site of inflammation, meaning we reduce the cholesterol which was
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  Speaker 2: called to the site of inflammation to cause the repair,
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  Speaker 2: rather than ask what started to fire. That notion is
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  Speaker 2: about to be I think blown out of the water
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  Speaker 2: by by big date. I think you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: big data, artificial intelligence, and early detection in the next
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  Speaker 2: five years are going to circumvent the entire system.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think there's a possibility of removing food oils
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  Speaker 1: from the market.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there will ever replace food oils.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, yeah, seed oils.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they will ever replace heeed oils. I
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  Speaker 2: think what's really interesting is is the chemical processing. So
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  Speaker 2: another really good thing and I'm helping to author this
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  Speaker 2: paper with Kelly Means and a bunch of other folks
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  Speaker 2: to present it to Bobby Kennedy in looking at the
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  Speaker 2: genesis of chronic disease because if you just and I
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  Speaker 2: know lots of people have talked about this on your show,
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  Speaker 2: so I won't be labor the point. But if you
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  Speaker 2: look at this ending of four and a half trillion
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year right on healthcare in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: and then you say, well, what do we lead the
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  Speaker 2: world in well, as of December sixth, we were in
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  Speaker 2: sixty six in the world and life expectancy. We lead
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  Speaker 2: the world in morbid obesity, type two diabetes, multiple chronic
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  Speaker 2: disease in the single biome, meaning not just our population
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  Speaker 2: has multiple different chronic diseases, but multiple chronic diseases in
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  Speaker 2: the same body, because most people don't just have one
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  Speaker 2: autoimmune disease, or they're not just hypertensive and diabetic. They're hypertensive, diabetic,
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  Speaker 2: and hypothyroid with an autoimmune usually multiple autoimmune. We lead
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  Speaker 2: the world in infant mortality, maternal mortality, and so you've
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  Speaker 2: got to ask yourself, how is four and a half
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  Speaker 2: trillion dollars a year in spending leading to these kinds
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  Speaker 2: of consequences, And very often it's actually not the food,
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  Speaker 2: it's the distance from the food to the table. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily the plant. It's what we're doing to
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  Speaker 2: process these plants to get them on the table. And
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  Speaker 2: so I think what you're going to see is these
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  Speaker 2: grass guidelines generally regarded as safe, which is essentially how
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  Speaker 2: the FDA decides whether or not you can micropoison the population.
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  Speaker 2: So we are allowed to micropoison the population. Right, we're
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  Speaker 2: allowed to put certain amounts of pesticides, herbicides and sexticides, preservatives.
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  Speaker 1: That is a great way of putting it to it's micropoisoning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's really what's happening. It's exactly what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of experts will say that dosage determines
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  Speaker 2: the poison and that's largely untrue when you talk about
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  Speaker 2: cumulative dose toxicity. Meaning, if I give you this sandwich
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  Speaker 2: and you know, this piece of tuna fish and it
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  Speaker 2: has a very small safe amount of lead or mercury,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably not going to hurt you, right, But if
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  Speaker 2: you don't methylate that metal out of your body and
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  Speaker 2: you keep eating that same kind of fish. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: nobody got mercury poisoning from a single piece of tuon
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  Speaker 2: of fish. What they got markey poisoning from was continuing
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  Speaker 2: to eat the same thing over and over and over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, and they got a cumulative dose toxicity,
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  Speaker 2: which is what a lot of foreign countries use. So
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  Speaker 2: in other words, I can't just say if I put,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one drop of arsenic in this glass, is
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  Speaker 2: that is that going to kill you? It might make
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  Speaker 2: you myldly sick cause an inflammatory process. Maybe it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to kill you, but if you drink one of
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  Speaker 2: those five times a day, seven days a week, now
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  Speaker 2: you're toxic. And that's what's happened to our country. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't get here quickly. We got here by slowly stacking
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  Speaker 2: these micropoisons.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But is it possible to change all of like
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  Speaker 1: whatever whatever we use seed oil four, is it possible
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  Speaker 1: to swap that out for olive oil or beef tallow
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  Speaker 1: or yes, I know there's some companies doing, Like Masa
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  Speaker 1: makes these great tortilla chips, the organic corn, yeah, talo corn.
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  Speaker 1: It tastes beef like it too, Like you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're eating food. Yeah, you know, we talked about those
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  Speaker 1: Vandry chips to Yeah, Vandy vand chips. I love those.
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  Speaker 1: I do too, potatoes and beef tallow with a little
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  Speaker 1: salt and the fuck and it tastes like food like
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  Speaker 1: when I eat them, I don't feel like a piece
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  Speaker 1: of shit, like if I if I eat a bag
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  Speaker 1: of doritos, I feel like a fucking loser, you know,
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  Speaker 1: even while I mean I'm like, oh you lose a
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  Speaker 1: shut up, shut up. There's a deli. You shame yourself,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, but isn't it possible to just replace those
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  Speaker 1: or would it require is it one of those things,
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  Speaker 1: like there's an issue with factory farming. Everybody thinks factory
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  Speaker 1: farming is disgusting when it comes to animals. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: vile what they do to chickens and pigs. But is
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  Speaker 1: it possible to give everyone cheeseburgers and food deserts without
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  Speaker 1: factory farming? Like? Have we have we gotten so far
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  Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves that we don't have sustainable regenerative agriculture
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  Speaker 1: as an option? I don't at all. So you think
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  Speaker 1: that all the foods, all the salad dressings, and all
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  Speaker 1: the French fries and all the things that are cooked
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  Speaker 1: in food, all we have enough beef tallow, we have
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  Speaker 1: enough olive oil, we have enough avocado oil that we
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  Speaker 1: could switch all those things out and everything would be great.
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  Speaker 2: There is no question that we have the capacity to
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  Speaker 2: produce these and we have the capacity to produce them. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these farms don't use the
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  Speaker 2: bones from these cattle, They don't use the hide from
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  Speaker 2: these cattle, They don't boil them, the collagen from these cattles,
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  Speaker 2: and they certainly are not making the tallow from the
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  Speaker 2: fat from from the cattle that are being slaughtered. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of tallow that's going to waste, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of tollow, a lot of bone broth for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of bones, a lot of cartilage.
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  Speaker 2: You know that that's entirely going to waste. And if
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  Speaker 2: you look at a lot of countries, they will use
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  Speaker 2: the entire animal. They boil down the bones, they'll they'll
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  Speaker 2: use the hide, they'll use the bone marrow.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy because there's a big market for
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  Speaker 1: bone broth, there's a big market for beef tallow. Why
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't they I mean, they're just wasting money.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think you have the perception that there's
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  Speaker 2: a big market for because you're kind of in the know, right,
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: you're probably in the hate to use this term, but
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  Speaker 2: woke one percent if you want to, you wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: He's like that.
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  Speaker 2: He called me woke.
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  Speaker 1: Used to be cool.
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  Speaker 2: When I mean woke one percent, I mean, I.
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  Speaker 1: Hate that word. Work. Well, it's you're using it the
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  Speaker 1: correct way, though, using the way African Americans used to
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  Speaker 1: use it. Black Boy used to call woke, like you're awake.
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  Speaker 1: I'm woke. You can't sneak that stupid ship by me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm woke, you know. And then the fucking white people
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  Speaker 1: took it over and ruined it, like a lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly did we fund that up to us?
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  Speaker 1: Not us, but the ones with blue hair?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now now means a whole different, whole different bone.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's essentially a pejorative. They can't even use it
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  Speaker 1: in a positive way. You know. It's that that's beaten down.
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  Speaker 2: But I like it because it's kind of like you
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  Speaker 2: could just be triggered about anything now. So it's so convenient, yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because I can really silence you if you
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: start out like out intellectualizing.
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  Speaker 1: Me, I can.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: I can just be like, dude, you're you're triggering me,
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: you're hurting my feelings. You triggered I kid you not.
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  Speaker 2: I've never talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: I probably lose half my audience. But no, I was.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Harvard University for this thing. Uh, this
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  Speaker 2: long jabby he summoned through a very good friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: I won't mention his name because then I'll give away
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  Speaker 2: the event that I was at. I called my wife
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  Speaker 2: one day two, and I was like, Babe, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like a landed on Mars.
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  Speaker 1: I go, I gotta get out of here, and she goes,
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  Speaker 1: what is going on? I said?
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  Speaker 2: I listened to a panel of PhDs for four hours
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  Speaker 2: debate about whether or not a microaggression is something that
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  Speaker 2: could happen to you that you don't recognize, that was
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  Speaker 2: causing a micro trauma that the other person didn't realize
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  Speaker 2: they were doing, but it was still creating an unsafe environment.
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  Speaker 1: I think there should be mandatory jiujitsu classes for those people.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Mandatory jiu jitsu.
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  Speaker 2: My head was so twisted.
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  Speaker 1: It is your micro trauma. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When they passed the microphone to me, I got so
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: much trouble. And I won't say his last name about Daniel.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: He's still mad at me right now because of this.
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  Speaker 2: They passed the microphone to mean, They're like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: do you have anything to add to the conversation. I go,
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  Speaker 2: list sounds like a bunch of people, this whole this
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  Speaker 2: whole panel up here. You guys sound like you borded
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: a spaceship and literally left mother Earth. Because I have
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: no idea what you're talking about. You were talking about
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  Speaker 2: trying to identify something that you, by its very nature
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  Speaker 2: say you don't know if you have it or you don't.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just admit that it's a ghost.
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  Speaker 2: So how are we gonna We can't measure it, we
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: can't find it, we can't prove you habit, we can't
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: prove you don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: So how are we going to treat it? What's this
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: culture of victimization and the monetization. It's like there's a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: there's status in victimization, you know, Yeah, that's the thing.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: They've essentially made it like a virtue to be a victim.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: So you're looking for little things that have possibly I
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: believe there's a microaggression. You know, I think I felt it.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I possibly rolled his eyes. I mean that is gonna
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: haunt me. I need therapy now. I think he might
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: have rolled his eyes.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: And that's absolutely accepting that.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Is a microaggression, like maybe rolling you out, Like you
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: say something to me and I go okay and I leave.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was a microaggression. Yeah, yeah, what
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I just did going okay. But here's the micro.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Thing is you're kind of off the hook because if
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you didn't intentionally create the microaggression. I just perceived it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: It depends on who I am. If I'm a white heterosexuals,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: this smele, you're screwed. I got problems and you're screwed.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: So anyway, back to the food supply, we took a
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: u turn there for a second. What's really interesting is
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: if you just take a very thirty thousand foot view
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and you say, let's let's just look at the broad
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: strokes in the blue zone research. Right, there's no continuity
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: between diets in these blue zones. So it's not keto, paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: you know, raw food actions.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: It's it's whole food. Just what you were just saying,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you whole fluid in a lot of healthy lifestyle, whole food.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Well, the two things that were non non interchangeable were
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: sense of purpose in community and activity into later in life.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: So you didn't have any of the blue zones where people
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: didn't feel a sense of purpose in community in life. Fact,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: there were no such things as cistic care living facilities,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: you know, the assistic care in those countries. As mom
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and dad moved back in with kids until the day
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: of that day till the day that they die, and
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to be said for that, because maybe
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Grandma's only purpose is to go out and get vegetables
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: for dinner that night, but she has a purpose.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And then she's a part of the community, and she's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: also parked up at a home with a bunch of
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: people don't really care about her.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we knew something in the mortality space
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: because I used to study mortality and mortality research, and
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: we knew that if you wanted to cut somebody's life
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: expectancy in half at any age, and I mean at
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: any age, you put them in isolation. So as soon
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: as you create isolation, you dramatically reduce, if not half,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the life expectancy. Now later in life, we would call
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: this broken heart syndrome caregiver syndrome, and these were actually
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: very valid syndrome. So if we actually were doing the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: life expectancy on a narrowly speuse who is still applying
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: for insurance, or we were looking at what's called a
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: second to die claim on life insurance policy and one
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: spouse had passed away, we would dramatically reduce the life
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: expectancy of the second spouse. And the reason why that's
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: important is I think that people don't realize that we
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: are actually being isolated in plain sight, right, I mean,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: we are trying to create connection through our phones or crying,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: create core connection through social media, and these are not
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: human connections in fact.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the rates.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And depression, suicide, suicidal, ideation, obesity, you know, chronic mental illness,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and I think we actually have a chronic lack of
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: mental fitness, not necessarily a mental illness crisis in this country.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: And if you look at the skyrocketing rates of these
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: conditions and how they are creeping into younger and younger
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and younger generations. You got nine year olds being treated
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: for depression now, right, So what's happening. What's happening is
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: isolation and plain sight. You know, we don't problem solve anymore.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: We don't have communities with our friends anymore. You actually
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: don't build social connections. We've lost our connection to mother nature.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: That's why I like going out to my place in
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Colorado's probably like you like bow hunting, and it's just
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: an old school connection to mother nature. And how freaking
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: good do you feel?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: It's very very good. I really wish I lived in nature.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I'd really like to be living in the woods again.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm working on it. Man.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: When you said you're trying to get you get something
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: outside of town, like.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's ranch kind of Yeah. I think. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: think nature is a vitamin. I really do. I think
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: it's a mental health vitamin. I think there's something about
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: being in nature. There's a feeling you get, especially when
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: your phone doesn't work when you get out there and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you look at your phone like zero bars. Oh yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and you're out there in like real woods, it's just
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: like we just feel better. Yeah, I just feel like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: more tuned in your birds and branches, snapping things going on, coyotes,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and it's like, god, damn, it feels good.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: We have this place in Colorado, my wife and I,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: she's been going to for thirty five years, since she
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: was a little little girl. When we got together ten
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: years ago, she started bringing me in my face family
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: out there and her her father's got ten acres, her
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: her uncle's got ten acres. And then this fifty acre
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: piece came on the market, so we bought it. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: we're building these old school, like really authentic log cabins
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: on there. And I write about this all the time
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: because in Miami. I have this really fancy place, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I've got all this fancy equipment, you know, red lake
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: therapy beds, hyperbarycks, hydrogen beds, all this stuff.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: But I'll go out to this Colorado.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Home put on a twenty pound rucksack. I know you
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: do one hundred and fifty pound rucksacks, so I feel like.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Completely most of the time, I do forty five.
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  Speaker 1: It and I carry two fifty pound kettlebells.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, no really, I'm not even telling the rest
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: short bursts.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: It is not like long distance, you know, It's just
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I just do it to tax my system. Well, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: do farmers carries.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I do that too, Yeah, farmers carries.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I actually, but that's what I mean by yeah, I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: think farmers carries, like suitcase carries, are actually better. You
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: know Goode had oh one hand, Yeah, because then it
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: makes you balance on the other side and then you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: swap it out to the other side. Oh stipianization, Yes,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: they heard from that. It's it's instead of justly better.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Actually, that makes a lot of sense to me, because
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: you know you're not just you know, just load bearing
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the spine.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I don't squad. But Farmer's caries are amazing too, There's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do a lot of farmers scaries, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I put on his twenty pound rucksack, go out by myself,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: put a sidearm, you know, in my am my, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: vesting go and it's just kind of funny.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I took a picture of.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Myself in the woods the other day, posted on social media,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and I had side arm people in bananas.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, you don't want to get eaten by a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: mountain lion. It does happen. It probably won't happen, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: guess what if I have a gun, it's not gonna en.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I just feel, yeah, it's never gonna happen. Fucking great
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: video of a bowhunter who is being attacked by a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: mountain lion and the mountain line is like creeping up
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: on them slowly. He's like, hey, get back, get back,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: get back, and you see the thing lock on them
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and start closing in and it's like fifteen feet away
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and then and then you see the thing twitch and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it's gonna hole in it's face. He was a he had.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: That's why I had a pistol on him.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens in Colorado. I mean bear attacks, I mean.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: It fucking happens. Bear attacks are fairly rare in Colorado.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It's only when you cross the apparently if you just
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: come upon the cubs and the mother.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: The real issue is not the bears that are in Colorado, though,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the real issue is the bears in Wyoming and Montana.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Brown bears. Brown bears which you have to worry about.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Black bears not as much, but occasionally, like a big
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: black bear, we'll go after people. Yeah.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I take a side arm and I'll march
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: around in there. But when I'm done, I feel like
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I took a limitless bill. It's just something I totally
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: agree with.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You. Something out there, and I get this little squirrel.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It's so funny.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I leave my house and start climbing up in the woods.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I have this little four mile kind of track and
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: there's a squirrel. I don't know if he'll be there
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: this year, but every year that I go out there,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and he barks at me, right, and he kind of growls.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like a squirrel, sounds like a little bark.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And then he chooses e agcorns off and grabs them
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: with both hands and throws.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Them down on me. It's so funny. And he'll follow
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: me from limb to limb.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I shit, you not. And I look forward to seeing
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: him every day. Like, I feel like he's pissed off.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a sign of love.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We had definitely pissed off. He doesn't
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: love you. Yeah, somebody probably hunted one of his family.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: We'll take a side arm.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And people do hunt squirrels, you know, they eat them.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: But in case, man, I feel I feel amazing. So
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: but you know you're right that you know, at some
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: point we have the capacity to replace these these oils.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: We actually have a way to get, you know, back
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: away from industrial farming and get back to local farming.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a I have a very good frame
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: named Alfie Oaks, and he owns one of the one
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of the more profitable grocery stores in Americas, and it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in Naples, Florida, called Seed to Table. And he took
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: me out by helicopter one time and we hopped around
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to a bunch of his organic fields. He's got thousands
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: of acres in the middle of the state of Florida.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: And he showed me how he's not only able to
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: grow produce for less money than he would organically, for
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: less money than he would grow it if he had
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to use herbicides and pesticides and chemicals. He's able to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: pick it at nine o'clock in the morning and have
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it on the grocery store shelf by two o'clock in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the afternoon. And I watched the whole process go down
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of these acres, and white flies are
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the pest flies they are trying to avoid. Instead of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: spraying for these white flies, what they do is they
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: just use this reflective cellophane. They run it down the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: rows crops and it creates this reflection and it scatters
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: them to the woods. And so now the white flies
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: are not eating the crops. There's no herbicide, there's no
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: pesticides sprayed on these, there's no preservatives. His team picks
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: this stuff by nine o'clock in the morning. It goes
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: into a processing center and by processing, I mean it
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: gets washed, that's it, and then it's on a truck
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and it's on the shelf by two o'clock in the afternoon.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So you can grab a strawberry in this grocery store
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and eat it. And it was growing at nine am
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that morning. And there are you know, there are mechanisms
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: for us to do that. Yes, I get some stuff
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: needs to be shipped and stored. But most regenerative farming
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: practices are not only green and good for the environment,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: they're economically feasible. They actually make economic sense. And you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: when he talks about the fact that we've been spraying
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: some of these fields for so many decades with or
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: so many years with these herbicides and insecticides, that there
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: is not a pest for in some cases hundreds of miles,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: but we are still spraying for those pasts, he said,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: you got to start to question what the motivation is.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Mm, yeah, probably financial and yeah, and you know, it's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. You said something earlier interesting that
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you think it's not what it was the term that
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you used. It's not a mental health problem. It's a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: lack of mental strength, mental health, fitness, mental fitness. Yeah yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, any of those hydrogens.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you come on, I love these, addicted I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: love these too. Yeah, explain to people what these are
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: so hydrogen gas.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably my favorite biohack in the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: world because it will cost you about a dollar a day.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: These are called H two tab. You can get them
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: at drink H two tab dot com. You can actually
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: read the science on it. I think there's two people
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: in the world now, I mean those that have read
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the science and take hydrogen gas during hydrogen water and
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: those that don't or just haven't read the science. Because
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: hydrogen gas, first of all, say it's it's the lightest
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: element in the universe. It's also the most prevalent element
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: in the universe. Ten percent of your body weight is hydrogen.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: In fact, if you took hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that's ninety six percent of your mass. Okay, those four elements.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So hydrogen's about ten percent of your body weight. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: hydrogen is not just an antioxidant, it's a selective antioxidant.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: So if you look at oxidative stressors like nitric oxide
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: or superoxide or hydrogen peroxide. Okay, so all of these
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: these these oxidative stressors, they can be good in certain amounts.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You need a certain amount of nitricoxide right in your body.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: But too much nitricoxide is bad, too much hydrogen peroxide bad,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: too much superoxide is bad. So if you were to
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: take an antioxidant like vitamin C and take very very
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: high doses of antioxidants, this can be very bad for you.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Because you're suppressing too much oxidation in the body. You're
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: actually suppressing these oxidative stressors too much. Hydrogen, on the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: other hand, uses the body's homeostatic process to suppress inflammation. So,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: in other words, it works through something called the NRF
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: two pathway. It affects a protein called nr F two,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: which moves into the DNA, binds to the DNA, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: then the DNA spits out the instruct for catalyse, superoxide, dismutase,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and glutethion. So in other words, you're actually using the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: body's regulatory system to actually control inflammation instead of externally
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: trying to control inflammation. And the second thing it does
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: is it targets the only oxidative free radical that I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: think all of the science points to as which is
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: hydroxyl radical having no use in the body. So it
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: selectively targets that and regulates the rest of the inflammatory
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: process by using the body's homeostasis. So, I guess a
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: very long winded way of saying that hydrogen gas can
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: go anywhere in the body. It reduces inflammation, proves circulation,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: proves memory. There's really interesting study published on the Journal
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of Experimental Gerontology and It was published in November of
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. And most you know these clinical research studies,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: they'll look at younger populations, like healthier younger populations. But
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: this actually looked at a six month study on hydrogen
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: water versus non hydrogen water in seventy year old and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: older folks. And they use something called tattoo to measure methylation.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: They measured cognitive function, sleep scores, sit stand ratios how
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: well they're able to sit and stand, telomere lengths, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: their chromosomes. And the really fascinating thing about this study
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: is done during COVID, so these seniors were basically imprisoned,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: so they were not mobile, and the only difference between
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the groups that they that they controlled for was the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: presence of hydrogen water. At the end of this six
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: month period during the lockdown, the non control group had
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: lost eleven percent in their telomeres. The non control group
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: had gained four percent. They had better short term recall,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: better cognitive scores, better circulation, improving in cardiac markers, improven
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: inflammatory markers like see reactive protein. I think it's I
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: think it's the greatest biohack on Earth. That and like
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: some sea salt and some amino acids like a perfect
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: amino I mean, just covering your bases. I think those
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: are those are your foundational basics for for optimuth And it's.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Like delicious comes to so good flavors and it's easy
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to drink. It's like a pain free thing that you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: can do.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: You know, you can bathe in it too, actually bathe
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: and hydrogen gas tabs you put in the water. You
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: can you can actually put It's called a hydrogen bomb,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: which just looks like a big bath bomb. It just
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: creates hydrogen gas. It's elemental magnesium. When you bathe in it,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it goes right transdermal, goes right through the skin. So
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: remember hydrogen is the smallest lightest element that we know of, right,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: so it goes it will go right transdermal, and these
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: hydrogen gas will form in between water molecules. So water
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: molecules H two oh, But hydrogen gas can actually exist
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: outside of the water molecule. And when you put excess
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: hydrogen gas into the water, it will go right transdermal.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, I have two of these bass at
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: my house. I never talk about it like on social media,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: so I guess I'm talking about it now. But I
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: have literally put people into these tubs. I'm kidding you,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: not crippled with arthritis, and they will skip out of
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: my unit like they won the lottery. It's incredible.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, so transdermal reduction of inflammation and joints from
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: these hydrogen bombs. How long does it lasts?
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Or from a hydrogen bath. You can get these. You
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: can get these machines. I mean one for your house
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: is about seventy five hundred bucks, eight thousand bucks. They
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: make some that make nanoparticles or nanobubbles, which are about
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: one five hundredth the diameter of a human pore. So
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: if you run these things on your face, it'll actually
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: push all the sebelmo ount of your skin. It'll get
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: rid of dandrufs, psoriasis, egzima. If you have any kind
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: of inflammatory condition like knees hip, shoulder, rotator, cuff, arthritis,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: low back, bathing and hydrogen gas can be one of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the most.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Therapeutic things that you do. Can you add it to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: a cold plunge? You can't add it to a cold plunge.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And what's interesting about adding it to a cold In fact,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I use this Cold Life cold plunge and I've got
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: these guys trying to see if we can incorporate the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: hydrogen gas into the cold plunge. So where the where
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the motor pulls the cold water out, it's going to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: send it into a hydrogen generator and then push it
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: back into the tub because as the temperature drops in water,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you can saturate more gas. So a forty eight degree
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: quote quote me exactly on this, but a forty eight
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: degree cold plunge will hold about twice as much gas
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: as one hundred and two degree you know, warm tub.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So if you're like taking like a warm bath, so
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: you're going to be cold plunging for three to six
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: minutes every day, or you know, it's what you and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I do, you might as well be in there with
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: hydrogen gas. And so I'm I'm working with these guys
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: from gold Life to see if we can plumb these
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: hydrogen generators. And basically it's it creates the hydrogen gas
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: by taking distilled water and breaking distilled water apart and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: then throwing the game into the water. And it is
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: noticeably different when you bathe in this gas or not.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Like I had Sean Ryan over to my house for
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a podcast one time, and you know, he's all banged
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: up from being a Navy seal and he's got nips
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and bibbles all over his body, and he just thought
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: it was really weird because I was like, dude, you
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: got to get my bat off.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about it before Sean fixed shout out brother,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: but he was like, He's like, dude, I I just
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: met you man and I was like, no, it's okay.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get in there with you, all right,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I'll sit on the chair outside the top. He's like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: this freaks me out a little bit. I'm gonna be
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: honest with you, I said, dude. I gave him a
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: fair of shorts. So because I was like, do you
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: does anything on your body hurt to your you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: your knees, your hips, you shoulders and anything hurt. And
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: He's like, dude, fucking everything in my body hurts. So
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, get in there, man, and I put
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: him in there for twenty five minutes. He said it
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: was like the first time he had slept eight hours
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and woken up without paying in probably fifteen years.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, John Jones, same thing, you know. I mean, John
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Jones has been very public about when I you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: working with me. I've been I've been talking to him
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a little while. But right before his last fight, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: brought him one of these hydrogen machines.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: To bathe in.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And we just set up the tub at his house
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and we ran hydrogen gas into the tub so we
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: would do red light therapy. He would drink hydrogen water
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: and he would bathe in.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: This hydrogen gas.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And it was about fifteen or twenty days after I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: kind of parachuted into his camp and then set all
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: this up that he texted me and he's like, holy shit, brother,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I can't believe him. You know, I'm out of pain.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I'm adding a six date in my training routine. I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: waking up, not in pain, you know, sleeping matter. So
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it's it's really incredible what hydrogen gas can do in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the body. And it don't take my word for it,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I mean there's there actually is a really interesting study
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: published by doctor le Baron.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Tyler LeBaron, he's.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: A PhD and he actually I think his PhD is
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: in molecular hydrogen. So I should tease him about where
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: his life went wrong that he got a PhD in hydrogen.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: But where did you bang a left that you decided
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I when to get a PhD in hydrogen. But he
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: published a study looking at electrolyized alkaline water, and when
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: they remove the hydrogen gas, all of the benefits of
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: alkaline water went away. So the benefits from alkaline water
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: are coming from the excess presence of hydrogen gas. And
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: even when you add hydrogen gas to regular water, it
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: will drop the RP, it will make the oxidative reduction
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: potential negative, so it, you know, has more of a
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: capacity to donate electrons. So I just think it's a
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: phenomenal discovery.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And it's dirt. It's dirt cheap. When you were telling
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: me that these bottles water bottles that generate hydrogen, they're
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: great in the beginning, but that over time they deteriorate.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Does this with the same issue happen with the hydrogen
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: generators that you would use for the cold plunges.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: You know, they are a lot more robust. They're a
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: commercial generators, so they're they're not actually working under pressure,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: so the water through these So a lot of the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: ways that you create high part per million hydrogen gas
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: in these water bottles. And I actually just want I'm
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: about to put a press release out about it. I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: actually just want a sixteen million dollars civil judgment against
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: a fake hydrogen water bottle company that used my name,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: image and likeness to run a bunch of ads and
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: sold tens of millions of dollars in these bottles. But essentially,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: at the bottom of these bottles there's something called a
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: proton exchange membrane and this proton exchange membrane comes in
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: contact with the water through electrolysis, and it creates the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: hydrogen gas. The problem with these bottles is that this
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: electrolysis process, if you put tap water in there and
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: use chlorine, can actually create chlorine gas. You can also
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: create something called hypochloric acid. So what happens is over
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: time the bottles that I tested, because I used to
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: be a huge fan of these bottles, and I carried
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: them everywhere, and I would notice that that it didn't
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: bubble as much, you know, four or five months after
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I I, you know, had this had the bottle, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: so I send it to a uh be tested and
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: lo and behold. You know, these proton exchange membranes break
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: down over time. So the first time you use the bottle,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you're getting very high part per million hydrogen before or
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: five months later you're getting almost not Maybe six months
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: later you might be getting zero.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Could you just wap out the membrane and continue to
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: use the same bottle or would you?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't new bottle, they don't. They don't
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: send you a new proton exchange membrane. Now, some of
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: them you can screw off the bottom and they theoretically
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: could send it to you, but but they're expensive. They're
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: like two hundred and fifty three hundred bucks. I mean
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: an h two table like a hydrogen tablet will cost
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you a buck a day, right, and more, And it
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: gives you a higher part per million than almost all
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: those bottles. And it's consistent.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: It's high.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: It's high dose hydrogen gas. That's exactly consistent. So every
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: single time I put one of those tablets in the water,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: it's just it's a consistent dose of hydrogen gas. And
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I used to get a lot of shit online because
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I was promoting these bottles so heavily because I believed
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: in them tremendously. But the average person's like out of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: pocket two hundred and fifty three hundred bucks.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Right, So there's a lot more financially cost effective. So
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: with the cold plunge thing, you're saying, so because a
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: commercial unit it would work differently, it'd be more robust.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not using pressure, okay, right, it's so it's
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: it's circulating through this machine. It's creating, you know, using
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: electrolysis and creating the hydrogen gas going back to the tub.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Because you don't need. You're not trying to drink a
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: therapeutic dose. You're trying to bathe in a dose. You
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: don't need this high part per million, so you don't
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: need the pressure. But the really cool thing is because
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: if you do it in a cold plunge, and when
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I pull this off, I'll send you one if you
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: do it in a cold plunge, because you know as
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the temperature drops, the more you can dissolve more gas
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: in that volume of liquid. So ideally you would have
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the hydrogen generator outside your coal plunge, let your cold
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: plunge run and fill with hydrogen gas, and then you're
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: getting in there for the inflammatory response anyway a lot
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: of times, plus the brown fat activation and cold shark
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: protraine release and all the perfol vase of constriction, all
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of that, but you would now be exposing yourself to
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: very high dosice of hydrogen gas. You'd feel amazing getting
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: out of there when I bathe in that hydrogen gas.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: So my wife's age had a really bad car accident
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: right before we met ten years ago, and she severely
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: damaged her spine, her alphine best one, and ended up
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: having to have a spinal fusion and so her L
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: five S one is fused. And even though she stins
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: she's fit, she.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Gets a lot of low.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Back pain and when her back pain flares up, there's
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: no chance she's sleeping. But when we put her into
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that hydrogen nanobath, I mean twenty five minutes in there,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: she sleeps like a little baby. And it's very calming too.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It's that shifting you from that sympathetic state that a
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: fight or flight to that parasympatheticathetic state of rest and digest.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: You can feel that if the effects of that hydrogen
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: gas when it goes transdermal and starts to relax you,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you know, it feels well.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: It seems like the more effective way is to do
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it in a warm tub though, because you can stay
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: in there for longer, so you'd get more exposure. So
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: we get you would get less hydrogen, but more exposure
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: than the three minute cold plunge.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I this is where you know, I'd
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: like to see some data which I don't have, So
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I do know that if you if the water is cold,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna dissolve more gas because you're so
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have a higher part per million in cold
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: water than you are in warm water. But then you
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: got to look at what's happening in warm water. You're
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: probably having your pores are dilated, You've got a little vasodilation,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: you probably have better surface circulation in your skin, so
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you might be actually carrying more of the hydrogen through
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the skin.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Versus when you're in a cold plunge, you're gonna have
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that peripheral vasoconstruction. You're still going to get hydrogen through
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: the skin because it's a higher to higher dose. But
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I don't have any clinical data to say that one
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: is better than the other.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Have you done the cold plunge hydrogen? Oh? Yeah, one
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. I mean I did it with a bath bomb.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I did it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it with a bath bomb. I did
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it with the one in my house that actually have
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: three of these machines. I did it with the one
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: in my house that recirculates it. You throw a hose
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: over one side and it sucks the water out of
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: your coal plunge, and then you throw hose over the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: other side and it puts the hydrogen gas back in.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Well, how long does the process take to hydrogen? I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: let it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I let it run for like fifteen or twenty minutes
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: because I wanted it to be really saturated and the
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: water looks kind of milky.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: In fact, I did it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I had Laura Trump over for.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: We shot this Fox News.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Event ona Or for her show, for her Laura Trump Show,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: and I did it for us to do this cold
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: plunge shoot. I added the hydrogen gas to the cold
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: punches before we got in there. Felt amazing getting out
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: of there. Now I'm trying to actually plummet right into
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the cold plunch.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: So it's just in line.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So it just runs either all the time, or I
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: can turn a valve and turn the hydrogen gas on
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: and have the gas go into the go into the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: cold plunch.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: So that's the next thing. But right now, for people,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you can just go get these hydrogen bath bombs.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: You can get these hydrogen bath bombs.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Where would you get one of those.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Drink H two tab you drink H two tab dot com? Okay,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: all right, yeah, if you go there, you can get
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the bath bomb.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I mean try it.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, just throw one of those bath bombs in
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: there and feel how much different your body feels when
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: you're bathing in hydrogen gas. It's incredible. I really feel
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: like it is one of the best hacks that so
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: few people are using. I mean, so many people aren't
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: any inflammatory. So many people are suffering from inflammation, not
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: just neural inflammation in the brain, but non specific markers
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: of inflammation like seat react to protein homossysteine that are
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: causing all kinds of havoc. I mean, think about the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: fact that about seventy percent of our circulation is not done.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: By our heart.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: And our heart circulates about thirty percent of the blood
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: in our body, but the other seventy percent of the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: circulation is is an activity called vasomotor or vase emotion,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: or I think of a snake swallowing a mouse, and
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: we don't really cater to this part of our circulatory system.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: You can explain what you're saying, was a snake swallowing
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a mouse, So.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Think of a snake. So if the heart doesn't circulate
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: roughly seventy percent of the blood in our body, how
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: is that circulation occurring Because obviously blood is still moving.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: You have about sixty three thousand miles of blood vessel
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: in your body, and so there is your heart is
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: not strong enough in a single contraction, you're leftentrical. Your
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: heart that's ejecting that blood is not strong enough to
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: push the blood through sixty three thousand miles of vessel.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And so how does the majority of thisation occur. Well,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: the majority of our circulation is microvascular, right, So microvascular
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: circulation does not move blood by pressure. It moves blood
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: by something called vase of motion or vasomotor. And the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: best way I can describe vase emotion or vasomotor is
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to think of a snake swallowing a mouse. The reason
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: why I say that is because there's no pressure coming
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: in the front of the snake, right, It's not being
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: pushed down the snakes throughout. It's being muscularly moved down
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: the snakes throughat So it's a wave like motion.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: It's this.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Wave like motion called vasomotor or vase emotion. And vascular laxity.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: How the laxity that's in your vessels matters, your blood
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: viscosity matters, and inflammation matters. This is why when you
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: look at the percentage of high blood pressure diagnoses. For example,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: if you were to just google what percentage of hypertension,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: primary hypertension, essential hypertenien or you know, high blood pressure
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: is idiopathic right of unknown origin. You'd see that eighty
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: five percent of all high blood pressure hyperdensive diagnosis are idiopathic.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: We don't know the origin, and so we examine these
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: people's heart e KG EEG, heart sounds, lung sounds, maybe
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: a die contrast study, maybe a ct angiogram, maybe you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: some other kind of diagnostic heart imaging. We can't find
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with the heart, and we medicate the heart anyway,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: generally for a crime it's not committing when there's an
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: eighty five percent chance it's actually something other than the heart,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: and we never look to the microvascular circulation. We never
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: looked to the seventy percent of our circulation that's actually
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: not done by our heart. What are we doing to
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: cater to that seventy percent of our circulation? Well, things
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: like resperatrol, hydrogen gas, lowering our homocysteine, which is for
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: most people it's very simple to do. I use an
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: amino acid called trimethyl glycine to help people metabolize homo
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: system because those microvasculature is very susceptible to high levels
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of home system and There's so many people that have
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: ailments that are consequences of poor circulation, and we're treating
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: something completely different. So, for example, poor focus and concentration,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: lots of autoimmune conditions. If you look at the circulation
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: in the brain, liver, lungs, Panker's kidneys, you'll see that
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: the majority of this circulation is microvascular. You know, I've
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: talked about why why you and I both had a
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: positive experience, For example, with red light. What is red
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: light doing to our eyes? Is it fixing the rods,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: the macula, the cones, the retina. Was there something damage
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: that red light fixed? No, it just restored healthy vasomotor
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: activity to the back of your eye, which is why
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I never wear protection in a red light bed. Now,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: am I saying red light bed is going to cure
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: your eyesight?
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: No? Get so beat up for that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: But red light therapy is extraordinarily good for vaso motor circulation.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Why do you think it improves your skin, the collagen, tolastin,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the fibrin. Why do you think it reduces fine lines
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: and wrinkles? Why does it improve Why can it improve
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: our eyesight? Because it restores healthy vasomotor activity and there's
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: so much of microvasculature in our body that we don't
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: really cater to this entire segment of our circulatory system.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Think about how small a capillary artery has to be
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: to carry a fluid to the edge of the lung,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: exchange a gas with the inside of the lung, pull
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: that gas into the fluid, and not bleed into the lung.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: So just think about how how tiny that tube has
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: to be, and how many of those you have to have,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Because you don't forget right outside of your lungs you
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: got fluid. Those alveoli are or grabbing gas and throwing
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: that into a fluid. Well, at some point that pipe
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: has to meet a piece of tissue. How is it
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: not bleeding into that tissue? It is that small, it's
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: microvascar This is also where hydrogen gas comes into play.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where I was going with that point,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: but I just find it fascinating that we've got so
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: many things that we can do to cater to a
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: lot of these ailments that people chalk up to a
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: consequence of aging, and they could be as simple.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: As catering to that portion of your circulatory system. It
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: would be so fascinating to run a study, a long
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: term study on twins, identical twins, and have one person
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: just eat the standard American tie and the other person
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: follow all these protocols hydrogen gas, fitness, healthy food, no
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: seed oil, no drinking, and just see what do they
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: look like after twenty years?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or twenty years. Twenty years would be wild wild.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Like I said in one, I'm the space, you know,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: And it's so funny because you know, we're so wrapped
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: around our medical system that's really fifty sixty years old,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: seventy years old, and how important a randomized clinical trial
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: is is and placebo controlled randomized clinical trial that's been
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: peer reviewed and all of this, But we negate the
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Eastern philosophies that very often have been around for thousands
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: of years. And I almost have more lend more validity
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: to something that's actually stood the test of timelin. Something
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: that doesn't work is not going to last a thousand years,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: you know, by virtue of the fact that it doesn't work.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: When we were when we were in the mortality space,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: we never used randomized clinical trials. We used big data.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And I think what you're about to see now that
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I was alluding to before is we've built an entire
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: system on you know, the most rigorous scientific study being
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the randomized clinical you know, policical controlled, randomized clinical trial,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and so that is the gold standard, and if it
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: hasn't been through this process, it is not valid. Well,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: we've never done randomized clinical trials on parachutes. I wouldn't
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: jump out of an airplane without one who wants to
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: be in that who wants to be in the control group? Stand, Yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: you line up here, you're getting the knapsack and a
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: prayer book and we're getting a parachute.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: A very good point. It's a very good point for
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: there's some things you really can't run randomized control studies on. Yeah.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I mean sometimes we just have data, right, we have
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: really good data, and and and one of the things
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: I used to get just absolutely slaughtered for was I
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: spoke out about the the simple LDL hypothesis of cholesterol,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: saying that there is no correlation between elevated levels of
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: LDL cholesterol on its own and cardiovascar disease. You had
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: to have corresponding increases in triglyceride, You had to have
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: inflammatory factors, usually had to have other metabolic factors. Like hypertriuglyrideemia,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: hyperinsulin eemia, and and and yet everybody you know would
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: really come after me for that. And now we're starting
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: to see that the data on statins is really falling apart,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, big data is starting to tell
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: us that the extension of life is near zero, but
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the extension of all cause mortality is near zero. And
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: then the complications downstream, which we never study. I mean,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: you'll never find a randomized clinical trial looking at more
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: than one pharmaceutical compound in the same biome. Yet almost
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: everybody at the age of sixty is on five or
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: more prescriptions. But we don't study prescriptions in concert with
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: one another. We study them independently. We say, Okay, if
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: you have a high cholesterol, you're on a statin that's independent.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: If you have you know your hum glomin aec is
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: over six point four, you're now insulin dependent. Okay, so
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: now you're on insulin. You've been a little sad lately,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: So now you're on an ssri and your thyroid is
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: hyperfunction so now you're also on a synthroid or leave
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: a thyroxine or arm a thyroid, and you know your
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: blood's gotten a little thick because you're on hormone therapy,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: so now you are on blood tinner. We never studied
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: the compounding effect of all of these different pharmaceuticals in
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the same biome. We just assumed that the randomized clinical
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: trial and these independent silos is valid, even though we're
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: going to smack all of these things together. One of
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the things that we learned in the mortality space was
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the more pharmaceuticals you were on, the easier it was
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: for us to predict your life expectancy. It was extraordinarily accurate.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: For example, if somebody started a corticosteroid, which is very
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: common for rheumatoid arthritis and you know, other forms of
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: joint pain and whatnot. If you started a quarticosteroid, you had,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: by our data, six years and one day until you
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: were getting a joint replacement. Jesus, six years in one
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: day's the average.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: That was the average.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: So let's say, for example, that why is that because
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: initially corticosteroids or any inflammatory, but then they eat the
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: joint like a termite. And you know, we knew this
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: in professional sports and a lot of careers were ended
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: early be from cortizone injections. You know a lot of
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: athletes had their careers actually ended early because they got
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: too many, too many quartzone injections.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: How many is too many? You know, it sort of
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: depends on the joint and in the in the in
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the location one would be beneficial, one.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Of them can be the very beneficial. In the acute
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: phase of of pain or injury, they can be very beneficial.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: But what they used to do is because these were
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: repetitive use injuries, and you know, very often they would
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: just dose the athlete up before a game. So I
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: mean Joe Thaisman, I mean not Joe than Joe Montana.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: You know, he's one of those careers that ended early,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: very likely because cortizone injections. And you keep injecting the
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: same ligamentous tissue with cortizone, eventually you will weaken that
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: tissue and.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: It will snap.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: You know, first it has an anti inflammatory reaction, but
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: then it starts to break down the cartilage like a termite.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: In fact, it was so accurate that very often what
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: would happen is people would get missed diagnosed with conditions
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: like rheumatoid because they had the same symptomology as rheumatoid,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: but what they actually had was a long term clinical
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: deficiency in vitamin D three, and you would see that
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: they would have single digit vitamin D three for decades,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they would start to
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: present with symptoms that mimic the rheumatoid. They would say, hey, doc,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: you know, my soos and my feet and ankles are sore.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: When I got out of bed in the morning to
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: go take my first pe my, I feel like I
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: had to work out the night before when I haven't.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: You know, my little back hurts, and my knees and
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: hips and shoulders are stiff. Now it's spread to my
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: upper back and lately it's kind of hard to make
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: a really tight fist. Well, if you give those symptoms
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: to the wrong primary care doctor, maybe without doing any
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: any confirming diagnos, without said rates, without ri factors, they go,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: What, Joe, You've got rheumatoid other ritis. But don't worry.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put you on something called a corticosteroid.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: You're going to take this pill every morning. You're gonna
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: be fine. Method Trucks eight, whatever it is. And initially
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: you feel great because it kills the inflammation, but then
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: it starts to erode the cartilaginous surface. So if you
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: think about the fact that you add a nutrient deficiency,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: that you're now being treated with a pharmaceutical and six
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: years in one day later. Now, by the way, the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Methodtrucks eight, for example, will give you a gene mutation.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: It will mimic a gene mutation called mt hfr.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Oh that one, that one. The motherfucker gene.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the motherfucker gene. So even if you don't have
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: mt hfr, let's try one of those.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll try it.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Even if you don't have mt hf R. If you
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: take the method Trucks eight, you inhibit your your full
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: eight metabogis cheers, bro.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Hydrogen gas, no coffee. I actually saw you sniffing something
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: on one of your podcasts. What don't I don't want
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: to do it. By the way, he can do it.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no, give me a.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Fresh here we go. I just see all this ship
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: over here. This is a fresh one. So this one
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: hasn't been opened yet. What is that? This is? Uh?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Do you know who Juju Muffu is? Crazy m yeah,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: super well he's an influencer but he's like very impressive athlete,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: like super jack. Dude, if you be able to beat
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: incredibly flexible, this is the guy. Oh yeah, he's a freak,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: like a real I mean for sure, he's not natural.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: There's not a chance in hell. But I don't care.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: But what he makes this stuff, we have no affiliation
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: with him. We buy it, it's not we're not sponsored.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: So people, you're making bro money. No, I'm not making dude.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I'm scared. Dude.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I saw on almost almost like.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Brian Simpson took his headphones off and ran out of
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the room.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not getting anywhere near that.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: No, this is a good one. I'm gonna. I'm gonna.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna j bagh and it's give me the bag.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I'll do the bag. Just take a sniff of the bag.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: This is so wrong. It is wrong, feels so dirty.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, nothing, that's nothing. That's just the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: bag that the smelling salts have been sitting. Then, so
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: what powerlifters do is they take a sniff of the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: ship right before they lift weights. You're ready, here we go. No,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: wo oh lord, dude, there is come on chance, get on,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: get on him, bro, Come on, pee a pressure, take it,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: get about six inches from the nose. Take a hal
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: It's good for you. I can't guarantee it's no, no, no,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: that was nothing. Oh you're such a baby. Come on,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you're a biohacker. You're a real man. Get in there,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: take a sniff. Yeah're a real man. I don't get
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: into this. Get in there, bro, get in there, one,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: two three, goat fah. That's what I'm talking about. That
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Let's go. And that was a fresheat.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: The fresh ones are the really hard ones. We have
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: these in the green room with the comedy club. People
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: get addicted. They're all, take it my left. Yeah, we'll
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: come back better, go back stronger. I have no data
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to support that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, now I'm going to go down the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole of that.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I want you're want annutes? About five minutes? I give
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you round two? Yeah, where where we do we're actually something?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I wonder I did m h f R. I think
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about cholesterol before I forget,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: where did the narrative come from that there's good cholesterol
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: and bad cholesterol, and that HDL is good, LDL is bad.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: You want to lower your l d L and you
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: want to take a stat and where did all this?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: So, so you know high density liver protein and low
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: density liper protein. You know the HDL the high density
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: li proteins. Generally consider the good cholesterol and the LDL
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the low density or VLDL very low density liboprotein, or
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: consider the bad cholesterol because they're softer. Right, But what
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: we know now is that the size of the cholesterol
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: molecule matters a lot. In other words, these the smaller
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the particular size of cholesterol, the easier it is to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: cross into the arterial wall, gets even eaten by macrofage,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: and it forms something called a foam cell, which is
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: essentially this this foam cell process of oxidized cholesterol is
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: what is the genesis of narrowing of the arteries. Right,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: But again we have to remember that cholesterol is called
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: to the site of inflammation. So if you had two people,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: one with cholesterol of one hundred and ILDL cholesterol and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: another one with cholesterol of one twenty nine, does a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: person with one twenty nine have a higher incidence of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: cardiovast disease? No, does the person of one twenty nine
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: have greater risk of a cardiovascar event. No, just because
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: they have elevated LDO cholesterol. Now, if you start to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: look at other markers like sea reactive protein, which is
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: a great market for cardiovascar risk. If you look at
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: triglyceride cholesterol ratio, because remember it, fat triglyceride is largely
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: transported around the body on the on the surface of cholesterol.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: So if if cholesterol was a tennis ball, the fuzzy
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: yellow surface would be a fat triglyceride. And if you
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: remember from high school geometry, as the size of a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: sphere gets smaller, its surface area two volume ratio goes up.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: So what that means is if I had two baskets, dude,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I can still that thing.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Is I gotta seal this thing? Dude. It's like it's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: go blind in my left eye. I'm trying to be
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: smart and I can't see it on my left side.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: What is it? That's a good question, Ammonia.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Ah, it's no joke, man. I remember I remember my
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: clinaque when doctor Sarti used to take these things to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the wall because she would do she would do these
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: shoulder injections on people and they would get woozy and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: she would just crack one of those smell.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: They see them for boxers when they got knocked out,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: when they get rocked and they get into the corner,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: they'd give them smelling sauce and wake it up. Wow.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Not really.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: But so let's say you had two basketballs of cholesterol.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: This is an oversimplified version for the audience, but you
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: have two basketballs of cholesterol, and then they're covered in fat. Okay, triglysrode.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: And let's say I add more triglys ride to the bloodstream, right,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: which happens when you eat high sugar, high glycemic carbohydrate.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Why because part of insulin's role is to block forms
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: of energy metabolism that would allow you to burn fat
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: or at least slow those pathways down. So essentially, you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: have two basketballs of cholesterol, and now I want to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: add more fat to the table. Those two basketballs become
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: four softballs. If I add more truglys ride to the table,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: they become eight baseballs. If I had more triglyceride, they
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: become sixteen golf balls. And if I continue to raise triglysride,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: they'll become thirty two little bebes. So the point is
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: the amount of cholesterol stayed stable the amount of triglyceride
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: went up. As the amount of triglyceride went up, the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: size of the cholesterol molecule got smaller. So the two
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: basketballs and the thirty two bebes are the same volume
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: of cholesterol, same nanogram pedest leader of cholesterol, just vastly
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: different sizes. Those thirty two bbes very dangerous, those two
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: basketballs very little danger. One is actually a marker for longevity.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: One is a marker for cardiovascar disease, and it is
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: the same amount of cholesterol.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Just different sizes, so different sizes. I got my blood
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: drawn a couple of years ago and the doctor asked
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: me if I was on cholesterol medication, your cholesterol is
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: really low because a you on medication? I said no,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: When I eat mostly meat, yeah, you're your Your.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Truglystrites woul usually go down. Your alde ol cholesterol will
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: go up if you're on a gatogenic diet.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Doctor uh, I think it's in the deer sings his name,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: did it unbelievable? He's a cardiologist in an unbelievable YouTube
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  Speaker 2: video on this h I actually did a podcast with
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: doctor Asim Malhotra, who is a cardiologist has he been
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  Speaker 2: here too?
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: A shout out to a scene is incredible, credible guy,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: and a scene would tell you the same thing that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: you know he he fought the British Medical Journal and
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: and got publications that he was trying to have published,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: you know, pulled because he was fighting the narrative on
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Statin's one of the biggest biggest drugs in the in
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: the world. We knew in the mortality space that the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: centenarians that we were processing death claims on. I don't
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: recall a time during my career when we had a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: death claim on a centenariy and somebody over the age
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: of one hundred that did not have elevated levels of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: LDL cholesterol at the time of their death, because very
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: often these people would die either in hospitals or cistic
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: care living facilities, and we'd process the death claim. In
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: order to get the death claim processed, you'd have to know,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you know, day, day, time, location, cause of death. They'd
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: have to and we'd have to get a death certificate.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: And these people were dying with elevated levels of LDL cholesterol,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: which you would think, well, when they have died a
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: lot younger of cardiovasco disease. And now the data is
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: starting to come out to support these other metabolic issues
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: like hyper insulnemia, you know, hyper triglyceridemia, high you know,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: high blood sugar. That these these are villains that precede cholesterol,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: you know, attaching to the arterial wall. And so when
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: we talk about metabolic health, we really shouldn't just isolate
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: LDL cholesterol. We should be looking at our blood pressure,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: you know, our abdominal obesity, our sugars mainly whether or
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: not you know what our fasting blood glucose is, what
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: the three month average of our blood sugar is, or
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: hemoglobin A one see make sure that's blow preferably five
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: point four. Looking at our insulin because insulin resistance develops
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: a long time before a lot of these things show up.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: And looking at other inflammatory markers like see reactive protein,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: and just generalize markers of inflammation because most people are
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: eating a very pro inflammatory diet. And this is why
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: you can't isolate one thing and say seed oils or
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: what's killing Americans? You have vaccines, or what's killing Americans
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: aluminum vaccines or you know, fluoride and drinking water. It's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: the cumulative dose toxicity of all of these things. You know,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: our water is toxic, and we have fluoride, we have chlorines,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: we have pfas, probably fluoralalkols, we have microplastics, we have phenols.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I actually did a test on myself and my entire
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: family called a viber wellness test, and you uh, it's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: a blood in urine test, and essentially it tells you
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: whether you got mold, microtoxins, heavy metals, all of these
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: different things. The amount of BPAs in my blood and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I am I would consider myself pretty on top of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: my diet game. The amount of b p as. There
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: were traces of jet fuel, they're aphlotoxins of fuel. There
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: were traces of jet fuels like accelerants like uh, like
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: aerosol accelerants maybe from flying a fly a lot. My
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: daughter had it in her blood too, and and and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: and so did my wife, and then we and then
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: we all had very similar species of mold which.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: We which we got rid of. And I felt a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: lot better.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: And it was in your home, it was in it
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: was actually in my daughter's apartment. We actually ended up
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: having our doctor write a letter and and and break
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: her lease and we moved her into an apartment right
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: next to us and in Coconut Grove in Florida. But
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: she was starting to have and she's a nurse, and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: she was starting to have these strained symptoms, just brain fog.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Her joints were just killing her in the morning. By
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, her ankles were swollen, her
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: mood started to collapse, like the peaks and valleys of
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: her mood kind of went away, and she was you know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I was bringing her over to the house, and obviously
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: is a biohacleon trying to solve everything. So I was like,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: we got to do this fiber one on this test
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: medic and we've got to figure out what's going on
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: in the boom. That mold just jumped off the chart.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Our youngest starter too, is suffering from recurrent sore throads.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: And you know that viruses and I mean bacteria and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: mold have been mortal enemies for years. I mean think
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: penicillin and bacteria, right, And so we live in the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: mold capital of the world, and very often when you
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: get mold toxicity, it doesn't just it's not just a
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: constant infection. It has a latent phase, a dormant phase
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: and then a sporulating phase. And so these these mold infections,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: which a lot of doctors will tell you are complete nonsense,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: are absolutely valid.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: People that right now that have severe brain fog, they
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: have joint pain, they have really poor focus and concentration
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: and short term memory issues. They've got hormonem balanced, they've
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: got water retention, and they got swollen ankles, and they
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: cannot really figure it out. And they'll do a standard
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: blood testing. You don't see this on a standard blood test.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: And when you do something like a vibrant and you
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: look at these this mold toxicity, you get rid of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: it and the you see the entire blood panel you know,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: comes back into optimal ranges and they feel amazing. Just
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: like my daughter, we did EBO two, we did sauna,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: we did got binders activated charcoal binders, hy dosis glued
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to thigh one, and over the next few weeks we
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: slowly walked, you know, this mold right out of her system.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: But people suffer from this all the time. In fact,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: I've been deep down the rabbit hole of a lot
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: of the foundations of these autoimmune diseases, because in my
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: previous clinic. We had one hundred and fifty one hundred
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: and sixty thousand patients come through our clinic system, and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: nearly everyone that we saw that had an autoimmune disease
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: was told by their doctor you just woke up one
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: day and your immune system went haywire. Right, So you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: have Crohn's disease because one day you woke up and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: the immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your colon. Or
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: you have hypothyroid because you woke up one morning and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: your immune systems manufacturing antibodies.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: To your tyroids.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now you have hashimotos or the lack ofmal gland
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: in your eye, You have chagrins or your blood, you
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: have lupus, And we immediately just assumed that God made
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: a mistake, that the immune system is malfunctioning, instead of mistaking,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: taking a step back and saying, you know, what if
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: actually the immune system is acting properly. What if God
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: didn't make a mistake. What if it's attacking to colon
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: for a reason. We just have to figure it out.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: And if you just eliminated four things mold, micotoxin, heavy metals, viruses,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: and parasites, just those four categories. I believe that you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: would get to the majority of the genesis of autoimmune diseases.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: You know, some of these autopsy studies are multiple sclerosis.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: For example, were one hundred percent positive for certain colonies
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: of helmets, helmans helminths, which are parasites, and and and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: these helminth colonies or the larvae from these were actually
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: in the mild sheath of ten of ten autopsies that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: they did on multiple scrosis patients. And I'm not, by
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: any way means saying that everybody that has multiple scross
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: has parasitic infection, but there are healthy parasites. There's categories
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: of helmets that are very very healthy. And some of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: the underdeveloped countries in the world where actually they have
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: these healthy parasites which we've wiped out for the large
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: part here, they don't get multiple sclerosis, or they have
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: very very low incidents of multiple sclerosis. And one of
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: the theories is that because we have we have disrupted
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: the balance of not only bacteria, but parasites in our
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: god specifically tso parasites, which are which are healthy parasites
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: that the pathogenic parasites proliferate and they burrow their their
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: larvae burrow into the mild sheath, and they're part of
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: the genesis of multiple sclerosis. My whole point in saying
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: that is if you take any parapathogen.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Let's just take this one right here. It looks like
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: a Donald Trump coin.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if the audience could see this,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: but let's say this was a mold spore or micotoxin,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: or this was a heavy metal, or even a virus,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: and this was a healthy cell.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: You see that.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: They don't hide like this, right, metals, micotoxins, mold, you know, viruses,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: even in some cases parasites, they don't hide outside.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Of the cell like this.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: They hide like this and inside the cell, inside the cell.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, but when a virus, when when the nuclear
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: capsid protein of a virus attaches to a cell and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: injects its DNA, that's the way that it takes over
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: that cell. It's kind of like being bitten by the zombie, right.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, a virus is not a living thing. It's
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: an envelope that that's wrapped around DNA. But when that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: envelope attaches to the cell wall and it squirts the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: DNA inside, now the virus has taken over the host's cell. Right,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: so it's inside the cell. But the point is that
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: the immune system is not after this. It's not after
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: the cell.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: It's after this.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: So so how does it how does it get to this?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: It has to kick down this wall. It has to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: break through this cell wall, and very often, in order
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: to do that, it needs to manufacture an un antibody
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: to this. Sell if you look, for example, at hype,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: you know, for hashimotos, which a lot of people have.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: You know, these people have hashimotoves and they're told, okay,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: well you woke up one day and your immune system
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: decided to attack the.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Thyroid.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: You know, you're manufacturing antibodies your thyroid, and so well,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: why is it attacking my thyroid? Well, we don't know.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Let's look at your family history. Oh you your mom's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: sister had it and your dad's brother had it. Oh,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: you have familial hashimotos even though there is no gene
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: for hashimotos, so you couldn't have inherited it from your ancestor.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Because it now runs in your family, you're told that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: you have a genetically inherited disease, and now you have
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: to subscribe to a lifetime of medication instead of taking
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: a step back and saying, well, what would have called
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: my immune system to that site. Look at the incidents
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: of heavy metal toxicity, mercury poisoning, and hashimotos, And look
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: at the amount of lead in mercury poisoning in hashimotos
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: because the thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals, and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: very often when they retreat into the thyroid, the immune
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: system will chase them there. And look at the genesis
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: of a lot of Chrohn's disease. I mean, a lot
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: of Crone's disease has to do with the disruption of
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: the single cell layer in your gut that allows bacteria
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: and other pathogenic contents that should stay inside the luminal
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: wall of your gut, they leak out and they're in
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: an area that they don't belong, and the immune system
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: is attacking them there. And then we want to hold
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: the immune system responsible for the crime and say, hey,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: we're going to arrest the police officer.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: For what this criminal did.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, those contents are in areas of the body
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: where they don't belong, and so we're going to put
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: you on an immunosuppressant, or we're going to put you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: on an anium inflammatory and we're actually going to stop
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: the immune system from protecting you instead of saying what
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: contents could be leaking from my gut that are causing
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: the immune system to light up? And you could just
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: keep going through lots of autoimmune diseases like this, you know,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: multiple scrosis, a lot of these conditions, but mold, micotoxins, metals, parasites.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I was ever told that I had
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: an automoun disease, I would not accept it until I'd
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: done those kinds of tests.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Interesting, So back to the narrative of HDL and LDL.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: How did it get formed that LDL is the bad cholesterol.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Because the majority of people that had high LDL cholesterol
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: also had high other factors.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Going on in their body.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: And just like a lot of these randomized clinical trials,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: we look at things in isolation. We study one thing
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: in isolation. One of the worst things we do, in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: my opinion, in modern science, is study human anatomy or
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: human physiology or biochemistry in isolation. So we say we're
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: going to take a cell out of the body, We're
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: going to put it in a lab. We're going to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: look out it behaves in a petri dish, and then
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: we're going to assume that when I put that cell
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: back into the body, it's going to behave the same way.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: And so we didn't solve for all of these other factors. Well,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: what was the person's insulin level, what was their fasting glucose,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: what was their hemoglobin A one C, what were there
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: other inflammatory markers like se reactive protein, creatine, phosphaicinase, what
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: were the other lifestyle factors that were going on. And
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: what you'll find is it correlation between high levels of
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: cholesterol and people that have cardiovascu disease, but not because
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: of the cholesterol, because of all of the diet and
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: lifestyle risk factors that go around it. But we can
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: build a multi billion dollar in factor trillion dollar industry
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: by just lowering this one biomarker. And when we lower
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: this biomarker, if that biomarker were directly linked to all
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: cause mortality, if it were directly linked to the incidence
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: of cardiovasco disease, then we would see in the population
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: where we lowered this biomarker, we would see an extension
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: of mortality. Right because we said this biomarker was high
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: oldl so if we lower it with satin, then we're
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: going to see an extension of mortality.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: And behold, we see no extension immortality. So how does
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: it continue to be used.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Because it's continued to be marketed that way. You have
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: to understand that there's a box that is called the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: standard of care, and I don't subscribe to the fact
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: that physicians are trying to harm you. In fact, I
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: have the deepest respect for people that are licensed to
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: practice medicine because I'm not one of them, and you know,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: they go through a schooling to learn to practice within
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: something called the standard of care. If you're outside of
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: the standard of care, your malpractice is at risk, your
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: reimbursement is at risk, your career is at risk. So
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: you may very well be doing something that is in
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: your scope of practice, but it is outside the standard
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: of care. So most physicians will migrate back into the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: standard of care. So even if you go around to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: a bunch of allopathic doctors and get multiple opinions, they'll
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: all be within this box. When you jump outside of
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: that box, you've got to be talking to somebody who's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: willing to say, okay, you probably have to pay me
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: cash you probably have. You put my malpractice at risk.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I don't have malpractice coverage for this type of treatment,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: not because they're breaking the law, but because they're not
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: within the standard of care. It's just like when physicians
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: started to prescribe iybermectin and hydroxychloroquin for COVID when it
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't this standard of care, even though there were millions
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: and millions and millions of scripts written for these pharmaceuticals
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: that were proven to be extraordinarily safe. I mean, our
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: doctor used to have to write it for joint pain
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: during COVID so she wouldn't potentially risk her license. So
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: what happens is you develop a herd mentality because the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: system for reimbursement, how they get paid, the system for coverage,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: how they get malpractice coverage, and the system for their
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: career is all dependent on things being inside of a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: certain box. And the standard of care for someone with
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: elevated LDL cholesterol is to put them on a stat
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: If you don't do that, you could be risking your life.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Sense And why is that the standard of care? Because
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: pharma dictates that that's the standard of care. They also
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: dictate the reimbursement rates. And so if you look at
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: the study that was done in twenty sixteen by Harvard
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: which determined that medical error was the third leading cause
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: of death. I think it was repeated by Hopkins in
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, but the Harvard study in twenty sixteen is
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: very clear that the third leading cause of death in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: America is medical error. And when you look into this
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: study for why you know we're doctors just killing people?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Know what happened was they looked at ICD nine, Iced ten,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: iced eleven codes. How they're coding you know, the diagnosis
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: of what's happened to you. I have to as a doctor,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: I've got to sort of slot you into a diagnostic
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: code so I can get reimbursed and you can get
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: medication and we can all get paid. But if I
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: don't have a diagnosse to slot you into, I got
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: to pick sort of the next nearest one, and there
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: is no diagnosis or way for me to be reimbursed
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: or or to make a living. If I go look, Joe,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: you're your hemaglowing ae C is like five point seven
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: your early stage pre diabetic. You know, you've got a
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: little domino obesity going on. Your blood pressure is creeping
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: towards the high side. Your fasting glucose is really high.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about some diet and lifestyle choices. Tell me
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: what's going on in your life. What's the typical day
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: of your diet look like?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Can I put you on a treadmill for twenty five
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: or thirty minutes? Can I talk to you about intermittent fasting,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: you know? Can I talk to you about things like
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: a whole food diet.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Actually no, none of that. All of that is outside
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: the standard of care.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: If something happens to you and I haven't practiced within
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: the standard of caram at risk and so I think
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of that is what's really exciting about Mahas.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that is going to begin
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: to change. You're going to see Bobby Kennedy and.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: His team.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Again, in my opinion, You're going to see Boby Kennedy
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: and his team which have been empowered to make real change,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: not just getting you know, poison out of our food
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: supply and having the generally regarded as safe guidelines look
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: at food safety before we put it into the public domain.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: But you're really going to see him go after corruption
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: in our nutritional research, corruption in our in our governmental
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: oversight bodies. You know, how is it that we can
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: have people that sit in the Food and Drug Administration
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: and regulate private industry and at the end of that
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: regulatory career go in to work for the same industry
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: that they purported to regulate and sometimes for ten times
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: what they would make as a as a regulator.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Kind of cooky.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: It seems to me like you would get arrested for
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: that in another industry. Yeah right, I mean if he
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: did that in the securities industry, the banking industry wouldn't
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: get away with it. And you know, seventy north of
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: seventy percent, I think the number seventy four percent of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: our nutritional research is funded by private industry.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: You know, we we.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Privatize the profit, but we socialize the expense.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: And by this, I mean like we we.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Socialized through the tax subsidized medical system Medicaid, Medicare the expenses, right,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: so the expenses go onto the tax payer, but the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: payments go to private industry. So we privatize the profit
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: and we socialize the risk, and then the private industry
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: that benefits from this doesn't even have a fiduciary to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: the patients that they serve. They actually have a fiduciary
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: to the investor. And they can go to prison for
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: not actually performing for their investor. They can't go to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: prison for not performing for their for their patients. So
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: if I make a pharmaceutical that goes into your body,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: but somebody lent you know, invested in my company to
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: make that pharmaceutical, my responsibilities to them, not to you.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: So now you get harmed, you get harmed. I'm held harmless.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: But if I harm him by not selling it to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: you for the right margin, he gets to put me
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: in prison. It's I mean, it's mine.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: It's so as backwards, it's so as backwards, and it's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: such an uphill sludge. I mean, what what the current
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: administration has to do, what Bobby Kennedy has to do,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: is sort of restructure decades and decades of what's essentially corruption.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a there's a lot of people fighting
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: him on it.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Man, Oh, I could only imagine because the amount of profit,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking about these industries, the amount
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: of money they generate is astronomical, and they're responsible for
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: so much of the advertising revenue of mainstream media, that
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: mainstream media not only will not cover the negative aspects
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: of their drugs, but will heavily criticize anyone who tries
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: to go outside the narrative.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: Very true, And I mean, you know, look at this,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: you know this Strong Kids Commission. You know it's the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: idea is to try to go to schools, put physical
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: education back into schools, get highly processed foods out of
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: the schools, and actually not too fat cheam kids, but
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: to pro body morphic encourage them like, yes, it's okay
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: to not want to be sloppy and out of shape
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: and to call that out and to actually be be
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: physically physically fit and healthy. It's not that you have
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: to be there to be to gain status, but it's
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: okay to not want to be fat.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: Well, there's also there's the real look. I don't think
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: you should shame people and visible to them. However, if
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: someone pulls you aside and says, hey, Bobby, you're overweight
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: and it's fucking up your health, and you know it's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: it's really bad for you. If that makes you feel bad,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: and that feeling bad inspires a change in your lifestyle
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: and your diet and exercise routines and what you do
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: that's positive. And sometimes you have to feel bad, like
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: someone has to give you an f for you to realize,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm going to fail in this class
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: unless I study harder. Yeah, Like, that's part of life,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: and you can't just coddle people and expects success. That's
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: not how it works. It's one of the most important
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: aspects of athletics because athletics are a very clear it's
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: a very clear formula that the more work you put in,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: the harder you train, the more results you'll get. As
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: long as you're not overtraining and you know you do
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: it correctly. If you put it in effort, Yeah, you
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: work hard, you will get results. And that's that's It's
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: a vehicle for the rest of your life. If you
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: can learn that at a young age. That's why I
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: think athletics are so important for young people. If you
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: can learn that at an early age, that the discomfort
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: is necessary for growth, like being tired, pushing yourself working
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: out when you don't want to, like pushing yourself to
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: the point where your body has to adapt and grow
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: and become stronger is a part of this process and
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: it's beneficial and through doing that you will actually feel better.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: It is actually a medicine. If you could get the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: way if you get the way I feel after I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: have a heart, if I cold plunge, have a hard workout,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: get in the sauna, stretch out, and then go about
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: my day. If you could put that in a pill,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: people are like, Oh my god, my new anti anxiety
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: medications is so incredible. It's so incredible. I'm so happy
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: that I went to this doctor because he put me
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: on the right stuff. That pill, especially if it did
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: all the things that exercise did without exercise, it would
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: be the most valuable pill in the world. But getting
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: people to feel discomfort voluntarily is so difficult when people
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: have this sedentary lifestyle and this lazy mind and this
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: entitlement that so many people have where they feel like
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: the world owes them something. Yeah, instead of I've owed myself,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I've got to work for myself. I've got to put
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: off these feelings. I've got to delay these feelings of
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: you know, relaxation and comfort and delay it and give
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: myself some voluntary discomfort so that I can feel true piece.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually trademarked the statement aging is the aggressive
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: pursuit of comfort. By the way, if you want to
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: use that, just use it. I want I won't see you.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: But well, aging, that's part of it too.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. And if you
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: think about that for a minute, it truly is the
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: more aggressively we seek comfort, the faster we age. It's like,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: we really got to stop telling Grandma not to go
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: outside is too hot, not.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: To go outside is too cold? Even really aging, right,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: it's deterioration. Yeah, you're gonna add. Your muscles will atrophy,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: your bone density will decrease, your ligaments and your tendments
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: will comfort.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when has a cold plunge and not sucked.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Every For me? It sucks fucking I don't want to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: do every day. While I'm doing it, there's my little
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: inner bitch just trying to talk out of it. My
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: little inner bitch has a little whispery voice. Though it's like,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: you don't really want doing this now, this is going
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: to suck. Maybe you could just go.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Eat carriage and successful.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to do this. But thankfully the general,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: the general is what I call the one part of
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: my brain that I try to keep the most dominant
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: that where I tell myself, shut the fuck up, shut up, stupid,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: get in there. This is not this is I hear unavoidable,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: get in there. I hear David Goggins in my in
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: my head like you. I'm like, shut up, you pussy,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: getteck call bunch.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: He's like, what does he say? Don't negotiate with yourself.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: My son and I went on this race called the
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Great World Race, which is seven marathons, seven continents in
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: seven days. And and I did a couple of half
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: marathons and one full marathon. But he did all seven
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: marathons on all seven continents in seven days.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, banged up was he? But then the seven
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: day yeah, he was.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: This was in November, so he's twenty four. Now, he's
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: twenty three at the time, so like five months ago.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: And I guess at twenty three you kind of feel
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: like you can't be killed by a bullet. Turns out
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: by cart to heinya, he was. He was feeling it.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: But but we took to David Goggin's book with us
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: and we read like I was reading like a chapter
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: out of it every every day. But it was a
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: crazy experience because so my son call and myself and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: my my cameraman, my production guy went with us. And
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: initially I'm like, this is so awesome. We're going to
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: see all seven continents in seven days.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: When I see Antarctica two.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: By the third marathon, I I was in just I
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: was so exhausted and in so in so much pain,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: and I had.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Only done like half marathons.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: When we got off the got off the flight in Antarctica,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: every all the all the racers go out and start running.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: I had these big timberland boots on this big puffy jacket,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: and I was just sitting at the start line, just
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: was going to await for my son and I as
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: the race director. I'm like, how long are these loops.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, there's six point whatever miles and uh,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: and there's four.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Of them, and uh. I was like, I could easily
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: do one of these.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: So I just started running in them and in the
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: in these size fourteen timberlands and dude, which I which
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: I immediately regretted because then the snow starts caking to
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: the to the bottom of my timberland. So I ended
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: up actually marching and not really running. And it was
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: so funny. Because my son has these spikes on. So
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: of course he laps me and he comes by. He's like, Dad,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: what the fuck are you doing out here? I thought
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: I'd give it a whirl, so I actually made three loops,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: so I got eighteen miles.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, he ran the whole twenty six point three.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Then you get on the plane and then you fly
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: five and a half hours in economy, sitting up like this, right,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: you fly five and a half hours and you land
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: in came down South Africa, and you get off the
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: plane and immediately run another marathon. Oh and it's balls hot.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: And then you we packed up and from that marathon.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: So now these marathons were only like five and a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: half hours six hours apart. So now you've done two
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: marathons and twenty four hours, one in Antarctico, one in
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: the heat in South Africa. And then it was like
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: eleven hours to Perth, Australia, and I.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Ran another half there. He ran full full marathon there.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: And then you're done in Perth, Australia and you pack
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: up and we flew to Istanbul. And the cool thing
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: about Istanbul is you could you could run on the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Asian side and then run on the European side. So
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: this was like the only night we got to stay
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: into a hotel room and actually take a shower. And
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: so we get to Istanbul and the marathon was supposed
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: to be along this wharf. It was like supposed to be.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: It's pitch black at night, it's the the dock is
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: all broken apart, you know, there's these big, huge cracks
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: on the sidewalk, and it was twenty six point three
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: miles along this wharf. Only the thing was we were
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: told that they were going to get all the fishermen
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: off the wall, and so it was lines and lines
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: and lines of these guys fishing at night, and it
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: would take them a boy and they would snap the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: hooks forward. And so we get there and we're like
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: this is way too freaking dangerous. And I guess the
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: company that they had hired to clear all these fishermen
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: just took their took their money and said the whole
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: course was going to be lit. Found out the course
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't lit, so then you had to wear the head lamps.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: And so it took him like an hour, around twenty
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: minutes to clear all these fishermen. But then we started
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: running and we ran with those you know, those headlights
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: on and if you've ever been in the pitch black
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: and you've just watched that light bounce in front of
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: your eyes for I don't know how my son did it,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: because I ran for like an hour and a half
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: and I was like, fuck this, I have nothing to prove.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: I'm fifty three, I'm gonna be fifty four. I've already
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: run a few half marathons.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: I feel really good.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: So he ran the entire thing and I joined him
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: for a bunch of a bunch of laps. But finally
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: he just ripped the thing off his head. Because that
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: light shaking in front of your eyes for four hours
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: at a time, pretty soon you just start to go
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: battie and then you go to sleep. The next day
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: you run in the Asian side. Then it was nineteen
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: hours to Cartagena, and about a third of the athletes
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: drank the water with the ice or ate the salad
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: that was washed in the water from Oh No, and
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: the worst monassum is revenge Joe.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: You could ever imagine.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: No, Like a third of the plane wakes up six
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: or seven hours into this nineteen hour flight just puking
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: both ends.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, lines outside the bathroom, lines outside in your
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: buttthole shut, trying to get in there.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: A few time, people laying in the in the galley's
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: just throwing up into the trash.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Can oh no.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: And I swear by the time we had Lanta, my
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: son had lost so much weight and he was just
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: in the And then we had a hotel. We get
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: to the hotel room, which you actually didn't get to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: spend the night. We got to the hotel room just
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: to change, and he's in there, just puke, kidding, you know, crapping,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: And he finally gets his race gear on. We go
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: downstairs and like half half of the athletes are like,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: look like they're on their deathbed. And because we were
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: late to cartoon, heinya that the race goes off at
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: like twelve thirty in the afternoon.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock in the afternoon.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: It's freaking ninety eight degrees maybe one hundred degrees, ninety
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: percent humidity. It is the hottest, flattest, most unforgiving course.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: And I remember turning to my production ahead of my
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: production team.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: This Max and and I was like, Max, there is
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: zero chance he's finishing this marathon.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: Because he'd already started about two hundred and eight two
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: hundred ten pounds, and he was probably one ninety by
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: this time. And and so I pull up next to
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: my son and I was like, look, man, if you
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: don't give up on this race, you know I won't
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: give up on you. And I sincerely regretted that at
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: like mile sixteen or eighteen, like saying that I would
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: run the whole race with him, because everything in I've
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: never run a marathon, so for that day, everything in
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: my entire body hurt yoe like, like I was in
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: so much pain from the waist down that I think
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: I was just completely numb. And he was just going
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: from porta pody to porta potty, puke and and shit
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: and puke and shit and puke and shit, and and
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: I was having these sentimental moments where I was like, man.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so so happy to be out here with you, dude,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Like this is we're.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: Going to look back on this one day and wish
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: we were back here. And he would look at me
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: a good dad, Shut the fuck up. They would quiet
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: down for like another thirty or forty minutes and then
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: get sentimental again.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: And you tell me to shut the fuck up. Again.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: We ended up finishing the race, though I don't know how.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know how he did it. He sipped, he
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: sipped little ounces of coconut water for that entire car
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: to han you race. And then we had to get
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: on the plane and fly to Miami and run the
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: seventh one, which I didn't do.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: He did. But I don't even know why I brought
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: that up.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: But crazy was a crazy, crazy moment. There were these
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: women that were running this race, a kid, you not
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: that they had Mona Zuma's revenge so bad that they
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: would leave the race racecourse and run into the bay
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: that we were running beside, just shit themselves in the
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: bay and then get back out. And the guy that
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: set the world record in Antarctica left the course in
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: an ambulance in Cartagena.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Wow, it was insane. Man. My friend Cam Haynes, when
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: he was preparing for one of those ultra runs when
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: you run for three days, like two hundred and forty miles,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: he was running a marathon a day while he was
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: working an eight hour job.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: He was running a marathon a day, a marathon a day.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a guy right now in Bahrain staying with
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Shaik Nasser, who's the one of the sons of the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: King of Bahrain, and he is running one hundred and
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: fifty full distance triathlons in one hundred and fifty days.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: When I was there, he was on fifty nine.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: I kid you not. It's amazing the body's potential if
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: you just continue to push it. The thing about Cam
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: is cam had been running for so long, for so
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: many years that he had this incredible base of cardio.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: It was used to doing day like seventy one sixty.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: That's kind of big for that. Yeah, he's not well.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: His son is even fucking crazier. His son just broke
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: the world record in pull ups in twenty four hours
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: in pull ups. Yeah, I think he did ten thousand
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: and one and twenty four hours, ten thousand and one,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: ten thousand hours, so he had broke the So Goggins
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: had a record. He broke Goggins record. And then some
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: cat in Australia. He's young, he's like twenty five. Wow,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: he's an animal too, that's him. And he runs with
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: jeans on by the way, why just for a fucking
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: goof He runs with Origin jeans. Have you ever used
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: those stretchy Jens. That origin makes I think I'm great.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: They're basically sweat.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd run a marathon in them.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: They're basically sweatpants. They give you no resistance. You can
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: kick somebody in the head with them.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: Easy gifted those you could tell that stride like he's.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Just well, he's been living with a fucking animal his
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: whole life. So he he came in seventh place in
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: the Austin Marathon and he has not built like a
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: marathon guy. He's jacked.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he won the World pull up Championship
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: or World pull up record. He is where I got
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: one of the ideas to carry a lot of weight
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: for like like when I do one hundred and fifty pounds,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: is that what he does? So what he does? He
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: did this thing where I think it's a mile, like
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: see if you can find it. So he's carrying a
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: sandbag and I believe he has a weight vest on
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: as well, and I think the overall weight is over
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: two hundred pounds and he goes over a mile with
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: over two hundred pounds. Oh, just timed it. If you
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: can find just walk on a track, I'm going short
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: distances when I'm carrying heavyweight. But what I'm trying to
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: do is you know, Peter Attia talked about this too,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: like the importance of the ability to carry weight and
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: walk with it. And then there's this guy Tom.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: About the centenary in de Cathlon.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes. And then there's this guy in Australia who's
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: like an incredible freak. His name is Tom Avalan and
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: he's an enormous guy. He's like six foot seven close,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: he's three hundred pounds, just close to four hundred, right,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: isn't he like closing him four hundred pounds? And he's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Jack Jack And one of the things that he does
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: is a part of his uh, he does like very
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: unusual workout routines. But see if you can find some
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: videos on it. That's what he looks like. I mean,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: just a fucking complete freak. But he does like to Yes,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: enormous guy too. I mean he's a huge guy, but
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: he does a lot of his workouts are not just
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: like normal dead lifts, bench press all that kind of shit.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Some of his workouts he does carries things like he
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: carries things like off one side or another side. Go
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: to his instagram, so I could pick one. A lot
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: of these are just mostly you see just his back
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: when he filmed. I don't know, he's a psychopath. He
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: has to be out of his fucking mind just to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: be doing this because he's one, literally one of the
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: strongest guys in the world. Really, Yeah, does he participate
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: in like straw man. I don't even think he does.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: I think he just does all this shit on his own,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: and I don't even understand why. So what does he
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: weigh now? Three hundred and two pounds, Wow, he drinks.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: He eats sixty five hundred and seventy calories a day, yeah,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: and three thousand, two hundred no excuse me, three hundred
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: and twenty nine grams of protein, eight hundred and fourteen
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: grams of carbs, two hundred and twenty two grabs of fat.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: And so he was that's the current phase, which is
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: a deficit.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was him on his way to so go
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: back to that. Yeah, So he's at three hundred and
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: forty pounds. I think he was trying to get to
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: four hundred pounds at one point in time. Hmm. But
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: one of the things he does a lot is carry stuff,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: and so I started looking into this idea, like what
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: what what? What is it? What's the big deal about
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: carrying and walking with stuff? So he does this, Like
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: how much weight is that motherfucker guy carrying around with him?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: I mean five hundred pounds? What is that? One? Two, three, four,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: five ten plates? So it's somewhere. Yeah, and so he's
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: just walking short distances with this. So I started doing
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: that in my yard. So I started doing it with
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: farmers carries. And you know when I rock, I just
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: use the forty five pound plate when I go a
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: couple of miles with the dog. What's what the back this?
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: It's a fucking tychopath. Why does he have all clothes
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: on too? Because if he takes the clothes off, he's
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: super impressive. He takes his shirt, Yeah, he's fucking ripped.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's enormous. I forget it. Background, Yeah
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: that's him. That's what he looks like, dude. Yeah, and
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: again he's like six seven or something crazy like that,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: built that way. But he does a lot of carrying
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: stuff and walking stuff. He feels like it's very important
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: for like your overall strength to be able to walk,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: not just to be able to sit there and push stuff.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: And do squats in place, but to move with things
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: where you're balancing and counterbalancing, moving left foot, right foot,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: left foot, right foot. Yeah, and uh, I think there's
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: a real benefit to that.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: I like to I like to single arm, you know,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: farmer carry. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, especially
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: just trying to stabilize your spine.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do that with like a seventyttlebell And I'll
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: just like walk up a hill with a seventy pound
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: kettlebell and I can't get very far before I have
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: to put it down because my grip gives out. But
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: I won't use straps because I think I really want to,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: Like I've been doing a lot of I carry this
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: fucker around with me too, because we have this thing
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: in the comedy club where it's like one of those
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: strength things squeeze its count. Yeah, and I got to
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty one pounds of strong and squeeze.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: That's the hearts I've ever gotten. So I want to
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: get to one eighty. So I've been just just grip strength,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: just holding that motherfucker all the time. Have you got
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: some needy pause though, bro? Yeah? It gets pretty ans. Yeah,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: just hold up motherfucker. I feel like hands to get angry.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: Hand No, I do. I like to get angry. I
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: just like to get angry if I can. But hand strength,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: I think is very important.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Most of my work talks about grip strength.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: And it's it's very important. I do a lot of
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: hanging too. I do a lot of hanging from my
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: back and my shoulders too. Just hang from a chin
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: up bar. Oh yeah, I don't want you good. Can
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: hang two minutes, okay, I'm just just about there myself. Yeah,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: just around two minutes. I put those weighted vests on
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: and that's a good way to do it. Weighted vest
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: for short bursts.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take like a twelve pound weighted a on
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: invested and and I don't think you could do it
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: with the rock, but but I do those those twelve
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: pounds a invest and I just hang like this. This
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: is the one of them too. This one's about twelve pounds.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah. I do one series of all body weight
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: workouts where I do chin ups, push ups and then
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: L chin L. I guess you would be pull ups
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: where it's a tight grip and you know by L
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: meaning I lift my legs up and I hold them
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: in position.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: And I sell the know it's got me doing that now.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: So I do that most of the time with no
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: extra weight, but like two times a month, I'll do
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: it with twenty five pounds. So I put a twenty
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: five pound vest on and do my entire routine with
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: long Yes. Yeah, I think it's actually from go ruck.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: It's twenty five pounds. It's like a like a you know,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: just strap it and velcrow it down. And so I'll
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: do my series attention ups, my series of twenty dips,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: and then ten L L pull ups and I'll do.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: But you're talking about like the L sits where you're
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: holding the bars and you just put your feet straight out.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not holding the bar down here. I'm doing chin ups.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm doing the L like this, and then I'm
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: doing these with my foot straight out, so it's the abs.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm just trying. I've had like a problem
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: with my lower back, and I think a lot of
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: it came from. I know where it came from. It
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: came from archery where I was spending too much time.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling one side only, and then also I was
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit of ten to nine US and
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: I was just saying, fuck it, just working through trying
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: to shoot both sides with your boat. Now. No, But
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: what I do now is because my boat's pretty heavy,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: it's eighty five pounds to pull it back. But I'm
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: doing it like when I'm really training hard and it's
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: getting close to September. I'm probably shooting one hundred times
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: a day, so one hundred times I'm pulling back eighty
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: five pounds. So now what I do, and I learned
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: this from Cam. I take a ten pound dumbbell and
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: I hold it with my right because I pull my
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: boat with my right arm, so i'd put a ten
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: pound dumbbell with my right arm and hold it out,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: and then with my left arm, I have a cable
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: like a cable machine, and I'm pulling back the same
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: I'm mimicking the exact same motion of archery I'm holding
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: in camp Camp. You're doing this in a gym on
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: a yes, like with just a handway. So I'm holding
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: it like that, and then I'm using the pulley and
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling the cables back and I'm holding it for
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: a counter two and then bringing it back, holding it
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: for a count to and bringing it back, so I'm
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: balan balancing out my back.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: Are you left or right?
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: Right? So you're righty is that's where you're holding your bow.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: So my right arm I'm pulling back. I'm holding the
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: bow with my left arm to stabilize it, and I'm
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: pulling it back with my right arm. So now to
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: counter that, I immediately go to the gym right after.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: One of the things I'm noticing is, like, boy, I
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: get fucking so sore on my left side now. Because
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: this is fairly recent, I've only been doing this for
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of months the left side to stabilize it.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: But I think I should have been doing it the
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: entire time. And because I was getting like really bad
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: lower back pain last hunting season and it was just
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: because of tendons. I was just over using. Because you're
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: stabilizing right, so you're pulling back the bow and you're
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: holding it in place, and you're stabilizing on your right side.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: And after your your form kind of breaks down us
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: all this, you get a little tired. Now, I just
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: when I feel my form breaking down, I stop. I
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: just stop shooting. So instead of shooting one hundred times
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: a day, now, maybe I'll shoot thirty or forty and
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: not just stop. I won't push because it's a meatthead
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: mentality that my stupid brain like won't abandon even though
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: I know it's like injuring me. Yeah, but this this
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: is it actually had became a problem and it was
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: hurting me when I was playing pool, and I did
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: a bunch of things to deal with it. One of
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: the things I did is a thing called new Fit
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: where they put which helped a lot, where they put
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: electrodes on your muscles and then you go through a
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: series of core routines while you're doing that. That helped
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: a lot. And then incorporating rotational exercises helped a lot.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: So I have like a golf bar. Now, i have
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: a bar, like a straight bar, and I'll put like
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: my right leg forward and so I've got the bar
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: back on the right side and I'm twisting forward. So
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: I'm doing that, so a lot of rotational exercise, and
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: I'm also twisting up, you know, and I'm doing a
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: bunch of different things to twist. Another thing I do
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: is I sit on a pad with my legs elevate
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: it and I have a kettlebell and I'll twist it
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: to the side with my legs up in the air.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm getting all this rotational exercises into my system
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: now that I didn't used to do before, but I
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: really should have been doing from the beginning. I always
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: did abs, you know, I always did, you know, the
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: the hip g loop thing where you're you lean all
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: the way back. Yeah, so yeah, so I do. I
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: used to do a lot. Well, yeah, those are I
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: still do a lot of those and then cross tensions.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: But I wasn't doing rotational stuff, and I think that's
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: the difference when you actually when when when is hunting
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: season for you?
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: December September? Oh, September. Yeah, and where do you go,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: like Utah or Wyoming.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the photo that you were asking about out front,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: that's Utah. That's Utah. It's beautiful and you for like
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: a week and you just gorgeous. Love it. It's just
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: so lovely. Everything about it is great. It's just how
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: I look forward to it so much. That's why I
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: love the mountains, like you know.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I think our long term plan is too. We've
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: got a beautiful place in Miami is to is to
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: sell that place and get a spot. I mean, it
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: continued to develop our spot in Colorado because there's something
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: about these authentic log cabins, glacier fed spring water, will
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: and septic you know, solar fed electricity.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like just old school I mean, and it makes
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: you so happy.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: And I totally agree with you. I wish, I wish
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: that people could feel what that feeling is like and
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't chase a.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Lot of other Well. I think there's also some intangible
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: input that you're getting from society that you're not thinking about,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: but that affects you, that's absent when you're in the
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: woods and you feel refreshed.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: It's a connection to mother nature. I mean, it's a
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: connection to life. I think that we've gotten.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: So I also think the absence of society is a
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: thing I think. I mean this is going to sound
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: super cooky, but I think even Wi Fi and cell
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: phone signals, I think they have an effect on you.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of an effect.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: I tell a story, a true story about so my
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: house we have this, uh my wife and I sleep
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: in an EMF free tent. I went a little nuts
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: with the biohacking here, you know, so every night we
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: have these every every night that were home in Miami.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: So it's a PBC frame. You know, it's like five
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: and a half feet tall, six foot tall little frame.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: It's just PBC.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: It's dirt cheap and then draked over top of it
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: is pure woven silver fabric. So it looks like a
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: mosquito net. That's over our king's bed and in the
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: back of our bed. It clips into this grounding mattress
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: which plugs into the wall, so the whole cage is
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: grounded and.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: There's no five G right there. Jamie's got a photo
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's exactly it. That is literally exactly it. I
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: wonder if there so that I want to from America's
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: bed in there, if it would show it because I
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: put it on. That's exactly what we sleep in, exactly.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: That shielding canopy. See that is like, Kookie, this is
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: where this is where I tried to bring that up
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: my wife. Smile, dude.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: I also have a hyperbaric chamber in our bedroom.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: I have a hyperbaric chamber in the bedroom. No in
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: my house.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I've got my podcast studio inside of one
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: now inside of a hyperbaric chain, inside of a hyperbaric chamber.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: How big is a hyperbaric chain huge.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: It's got two may box seats in it, It's got
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: like a fifty two inch or fifty four inch TV,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: it's got three AI of powered cameras. My gym is
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: in the hyperbaric two.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I have a rower in weights,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: like a whole set of weights. And there's a risk
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: of using electronics in a high oxygen environment.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: You don't use a high oxygen environment, you know, never.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any reason to go into high
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of two chamber. I mean, none of
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: my chambers will go to one hundred percent of two,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: so none of them are flammable. You got to have
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: a candle inside of there. Theoretically, I don't suggest it.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: But you've got They would tell you did not even
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: wear certain kinds of clothes in the hyperbaric.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: Chan Yeah, because if you have one hundred percent of two,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: you can have static electricity.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: You can light a spark and it could explode. So
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: what is one hundred percent of two versus like what
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: you're doing.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: So you have to actually put medical grade oxygen into
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: the chamber, which I don't do, but you don't.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: So the one that I used to go through. They
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: would give you a mask and you would wear the
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: mask and oxygen would get pumped into your mask while
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: you're in the hyperbaric chamber.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's also not flammable. That's probably ninety two
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: ninety three percent oh two pure oxygen. One hundred percent
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: oxygen is flammable. It's just like pure hydrogen gas is flamming, right,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: so one hundred percent oh two is flammable. I mean
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: that terrible accident that happened to that young boy in
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: the Midwest here recently where the hyperbaric chamber actually exploded.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: What happened, Yeah, I mean this a young I think
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: it was five and a half year old little boy
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: was in a hyperbaric chamber and very sadly and the
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: technician left him in there, didn't ground him, and he
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: had a blanket in there with him, and he moved
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: the blanket and this static electricity, you know, one hundred
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: percent to explodeed. His mother was injured too.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: I want to say that both of the nurse and
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: doctor and mclinic gone have been charged with manslaughter. Terrible,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: but he the the those are one hundred percent O
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: two chambers. It's clear, it means important to make the
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: distinction that these one hundred percent oxygen chambers, I mean,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: these are these are bombs.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: I mean why would you have one hundred percent two
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: chamber versus what you do.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: So if you look at some of the therapeutic benefits
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: for things like diabetic ulcers, burns, things like that, where
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: you know necrosis, tission, necrosis, those make sense in a
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: supervised hospital environment with you know, someone standing right outside
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: the chamber. The entire time I've been in. I've been
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: in one one time in a place called Bioaccelerator and Medicine, Columbia.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: And but the the home use chambers where you get
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: a prescription from your doctor and you actually get a
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: probably what you have is yours saft shell, no chamber,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: it's heartshell. Okay, so that'll probably go to two atmospheres
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: of pressure. That really is so Doctor Jation's Honors, who
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: wrote the book Hyperbaric Medicine with doctor Dimitri, will tell
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: you there's a lot of benefits at low pressures like
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: one point three atmospheres, which you can get in a
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: soft chamber, and there are a lot of benefits at
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: higher pressures. Like two atmospheres, so I never go above
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: two atmospheres twice the atmospheric pressure. If you think about
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: what's happening at twice the atmospheric pressure, you're taking the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: oxygen from the air, which is about twenty one percent
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: sea level what we're breathing right now, and you're doubling
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: that because you're doubling the pressure. So every thirty three
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: feet you go below sea level, you double the atmospheric pressure.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: So when you get to two atmospheres of pressure, you're
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: essentially taking in twice as much oxygen. The oxygen concentration
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: has an increase, but the size of the gas has
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: gotten smaller, so now you're profusing tissues with oxygen. They
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: that normally wouldn't be as perfused with oxygen. You can
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: also put on a nasal canulus and get ninety two
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: to ninety three percent O two, but that's also not flammable.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: If you took a nasal canulus from an oxygen like
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: one that works for your EWAT or something, and you
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: let a lighter in front of it, that gas is
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: not going to catch fire. One hundred percent oh two
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: is flammable and very dangerous.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: So what's the benefit of one hundred percent O two just.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: A higher concentration of oxygen for things like you know,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: diabetic ulcers, when you have anaerobic bacterial infections, meaning bacterial
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: infections that do not thrive on oxygen. You have to
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: be careful with aerobic bacteria because they're a bacteria that
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: actually feed on oxygen as well. And so you don't
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: want to put somebody who has an aerobic infection into
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: a hyperbaric chamber. You want to put somebody who has
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: an anaerobic infection into a hyperbaric chamber. But what's really
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: interesting is, you know some of the research that's coming
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: out of Israel, especially on cognitive function, using sixty days
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: at two atmospheres of pressure and then reducing the pressure
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: over time. You know, the the improvement in mitochondrial density,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: the improvement in blood flow, cognitive scoring, reduction of neural inflammation.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: You can't say treat or cure, but they use these
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: to modulate autism, all kinds of neural inflammatory conditions, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: which is really linked to type three diabetes, which is
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: insulent resistance in the brain. But the byproduct of that
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: is this neural inflammatory cascade, so reducing neural inflammation. You know,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of benefits to hyperbaric I mean
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: tissue recovery, post surgical round repair, post surgical recovery. You know,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: these things have pretty profound And that's also that.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: Study out of Israel that showed the lengthening of telomeres
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: when they did a protocol of sixty sessions, yes, ninety
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: minute sessions over ninety days, yes, sixty days or sixty
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: sessions in ninety days.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: Is sixty sessions in ninety days, sixty ninety minute sessions
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: in ninety days, You're right.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Doctor Sunders talked about that a lot too, and
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: they showed telomere lengthening, which was the biological equivalent of
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: a decrease of age of twenty years.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a chromosomeal in cap And if you think
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: about it, I have a saying that, you know, the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: presence of oxygen is the absence of disease, and I
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: truly believe that because if you look at the breakdown
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: in mitochondria respiration, which occurs when you deprive the mitochondria
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: of all kinds of things, but mainly of oxygen, which
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: is our fuel source.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: You know which is not our fuel.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: Source as humans, our fuel sources ATP, but the fuel
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: source for the mitochondrias mainly oxygen. And when you feeded oxygen,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: you have a sixteen fold step up in cellular energy.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: When you deprive it of oxygen, you have a sixteen
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: fold step down in cellular energy. Right, I mean, the
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: difference between aerobic and anaerobic respiration or the CREB cycle,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: having the presence of oxygen or not having the presence
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: of oxygen is a pretty substantial number.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: Hyperbarics because they allow for compressed oxygen. Even if you
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: don't increase the percentage of O two, right, you take it.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: You keep it at twenty one percent, like we're breathing
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: right now, but you just double the atmospheric pressure. I mean,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: the effects are pretty pretty profound, and I believe the
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: risks are low. If you have a physician, you understand
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: how to operate the chamber, and you have safety procedures,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: and you're not using one hundred percent O two and
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: you're you're at shallow depths, you can ascend quickly without
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: being in trouble. If you're a diver, you understand dive tables,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: you have to ascend at certain rates and pause at
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: certain levels. So the one that that I built, I
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: was like, Man, how do I just compress time? I'm like, well,
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to work out, So what if I was
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: able to put the gym in there and I'm doing
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: the podcast? I remember the guy thought I was out
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: of my freaking.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: BODYO started talking. It does sound crazy, yeah, but it's
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: It's it's got a Nord track. We're in there, and
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: and how big is it? Like the size of this room.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: It's it's pretty big. Let me see if I can
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: show you a picture of it. That would be a
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: great way to like compressed time, because more than one
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: amazing at the same time, you feel I feel amazing.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: Getting my son working in it. Wow, that's crazy.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: That's my son, Dylan.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: We went in there, working out in a hyperbaric chamber.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: And you can kind of watch Netflix in there too. Yeah.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: You got a screen in there and everything.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh it's got Yeah, we're just jamming some music.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: Yow.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: So I was playing around. Let's playing some rap music.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: I got a sound bar in there.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: That's pretty dope. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: I just lay down in mind and listen to books.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: Well, the other one you can lay down in it's
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's got these seats that we climb, and it's
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: got a television.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: In too, so you can go in there and watch
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: the news sometimes. Oh that's great.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife and daughter goes in there and they
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: just take a nap.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Dana about it, like how beneficial
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: it is, Like how much time does it take? I'm
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: like it's about two hours, and he's like, I don't
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: know that fucking time everything you got to do something
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: you do in the red light.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's try to compress time. Just like if you
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: could get the you know, the hydrogen into the cold tub.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be he's going to be at
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: my house tomorrow, so we're going to try that.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: How much are those little bombs for the bath, the
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: hydrogen bombs.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: I know they're about to come out with them. I
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: don't know if you can order them on the site yet.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: I think they're probably going to be if it's if
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: it's thirty bucks for thirty of those h two tabs,
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: and then I would imagine they could be around five
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: or ten bucks, ten bucks for a hydrogen bomb to
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: drop into the the bath tub. I mean the machine
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: is you know, I was actually originally going to order
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: this electrolysis system called a cocoon or it's spelled cake
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: when and like the facility out in Las Vegas which
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: makes auxygen water. That system is like one hundred and
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars. And then a buddy of mine, tyler
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: Le Baron, who's the PhD in the space, told me
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: about this machine I could order from Korea for seventy
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, which is.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: The one that I have now.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: And now I've added a nanobubble machine and that one's
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: just incredible. I mean for for this transdermal inflammation, and
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: I think for for people that have like, you know,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: chronic injuries, especially like chronic repetitive use injuries, or they
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: have real severe low back pain, or they've got parents
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: or something that are deconditioned, you know, that have a
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: hard time exercising. You know, these are these are you know,
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: great things to do to lower their inflammatory CASCO.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: You know that.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: And there's something called Ewatt Exercise with oxygen therapy, which
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: is kind of based on Auto Warburg's research where and
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: I do this with my parents because both of my
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: parents are decondition My mom has dual knee replacements and
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: my dad's handicapped from a boating accident years ago. He
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: has no cognitive impairment, but he has some motor coordination difficulties,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: so it's hard for him to really exercise. And I
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: bought them a sauna and I put them both in
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: a sauna for twenty minutes, three times.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: A week, and they just breathe.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: I bored a hole and they just breathe through a
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: nasal canules the ninety three percent two, which is a
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: version of EWAT. They exercise with oxygen therapy or the
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: multi step oxygen therapy, because if you just can raise
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: their heart rate just you know a little bit with
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: the heat, then that extra profusion pressure really drives oxygen
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: into the tissues. And I'll tell you it's a noticeable
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: change in them. Just like when you get out of
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: a coal punch you had a really good workout. Well,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: imagine you know you're elderly and you're deconditioned. You know,
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: you really don't get your heart rate up, you really
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: don't get it your good sweat on. But you go
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: into a sauna, raise your heart rate and breathe some
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: of that ninety two ninety three percent. They they feel
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: amazing getting out of there.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: This is a kind of important thing to talk about
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: because there was a study that was released recently that
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: showed that when people use the cold plunch after workout,
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: you see a decrease in hyperchaphy. Of course you do. Yeah,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: this is a horrible study, right, It's terrible to see
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: that because people you told you doesn't work. All these
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: pussies that don't want to get in that cold water. Folks,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: you do the cold before. This is the way to
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: do it. I know it sucks. Do the cold before
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: you work out, or wait several hours after you work
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: out and then you cold plunge, Right, I totally agree.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about what you get from
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: cold punching, let's not overblow it or under blow it.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, but you know you get well first of all,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: if you if you exercised intensely. Let's just say you
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: did a big squad work out and you tore a
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: bunch of quad muscle. What's gonna happen. What's the body
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: gonna do? Yeah, the body's going to send more blood
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: flow more amino acids, more more oxygen to those muscles.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: It's gonna pull inflammatory actors like creatinin. You know, the
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: breakdown a muscle. Uh, the byproduct of the muscle breakdown
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 2: is going to pull that out. So why would you
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: want to stay?
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: It's creatinin. Creatinin creatine is right right, right, what you take?
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: I never knew how to say that word, though I've
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: seen it.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which which is actually very different.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so because I know there was a fighter that
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: was actually pulled from a fight once because you had
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: high creatinin levels.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a kidney issue. It's actually a sign of
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: rabdough mylitis right training, Yes, so it makes sense because
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: he was a psycho. Yeah, you start to break down.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: So creatinin is a byproduct muscle breakdown. It's perfectly normal
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: to have creatin in in a blood, but when it
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: gets very high. So there's usually three markers they look
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: at for kidney health. One is called blood you re
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: nitrogen fun one is called creatin in. This breakdown and
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: muscle byproduct, and rabdough is when your muscles start to
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: break down at a rate that your kidneys can't clear it.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of people that go too hard when they're
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: not in shape, like they did too many CrossFit classes.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: They get robbed though. Yes, they get rabbed though.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: And what's interesting is, you know a lot of a
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: lot of athletes, really conditioned athletes get it too, because
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: they have a tendency to be mentally, I'm a lot
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: stronger than their bodies.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: That's the problem that Meat had. Mentality that I was
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: talking about that led to me having this tendon issue
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: in my lower back. Yeah, because I was worried that
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: it was a disk issue. But it's not in the disc.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: It's like right here on the right hip area where
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: it's like the stabilizing muscle.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: But so you think about it, Okay, so the blood
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: you' and then there's something on EGFR, which is your
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: kidney filtration rate, right, which is the glamory of filtration rate,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: And it's how quickly is the blood moving through your kidneys,
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: because about fifteen times every day, the full volume of
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: your blood coast through your kidneys. If you think about
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: what happens when you get into a cold plunge, so
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: first you get this perphol vaso constriction, then you get
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: a release of something called cold shock proteins. And if
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: you're really want to have some fun, just google around
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: about cold shock proteins. Look at Lin twenty eight A
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: and Lind twenty eight B. These are cold shock proteins
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: that are being actually researched for their impact on insleinse sensitivity,
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: improving insolence sensitivity. And then you know, you activate a
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: very special type of fact called brown fat, which essentially
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: So it takes a calorie and turns it into heat.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: And that's a very good thing.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: If I'm taking calories and turning them into heat. You know,
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: there's a cost to raising your thermostat. And you think,
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: if you're in let's say, fifty degree water, and you
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: get out of fifty degree water and you're standing in
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: a seventy degree room, how's your body go to ninety
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: eight point six? How do you actually get not only
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: how do you exceed the temperature of the room you're in. Well,
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: your metabolism is raised largely because of the activation of
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: brown fat, and there's a cost to that. The cost
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: is calories. So anybody tells you that cold plunging is
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: not good for burning fat, I think missing the breath
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: of the science. And then the final thing you get
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: is you get this spike adopamine.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, the last hours. Yeah, and that's where you get
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: that like laser focus. I feel freaking I feel so good.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: You're never in a bad mood getting out of a colpus. Right,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: that's another thing that if you could give that to
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: people in a pill, they'd be like, oh my god,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: I found the best end of the present. Yeah.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a cold punch, so true.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: Well. One thing is beneficial though post workout is sauna
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: right in beneficial from muscle grow yes, yes, and also
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: as a static cardio correct because your heart rate's already elevated.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: I like to go in literally the moment I put
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: the weights down, I get right into that one ninety
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: six degrees.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: Twentieth minutes tough, though, broh.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: The twenty fifth minutes even tough. Oh you go, yeah,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: that's the last five. I used to get to the
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: twenty and I'd be like, okay, finally, and then the
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: fucking general started talking, No, yeah, come on, pussy, five
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: more minutes. And the thing is, too, when I'm in
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: the sauna, I'm not just sitting there. I'm hard stretching.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: I do deep stretches, which is exhausting too because it's
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: it's hard to do. You know, I'm holding like deep
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: static stretches.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: You're pretty flexible though, right, Yeah, yeah, pretty flexible.
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: So but that's because I keep it. I mean, I'm
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: fifty seven. I keep my flexibility. Yeah, yeah, going like
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people as they get older,
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: they lose that flexibility. And I think that's another thing
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: that I actually, if I'm criticizing myself, I didn't do
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: enough of before I start fucking my lower back up.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: Lower back's pretty solid now, though it's still like irritates
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: me sometimes when I wake up in the morning, but
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: it's nothing that stops me from doing anything. I can
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: still kick the bag, which is that was the big one, like,
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: because there's so much torque involved in the way, Yeah,
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: when you're kicking the bag, and I hate not being
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: able to do that. So the fact that I can
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: still get those workouts in is really huge for me.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: That is the absolute best stress reliever in the history
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: of Mother Earth. Yeah, hitting a bag. Put some sixteen
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: out gloves on, set a timer, and start doing rounds
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: on the bag. Start slow and you know what do.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: You we start at like thirty seconds a minute to no.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: I do three minute rounds. I do three minute rounds
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: and then one minute rests, three minute rounds one. But
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: the first few rounds while I'm warming up, I'm just
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: kind of tapping. I'm like, I'm just I'm not full
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: blasting it. But then around round four when I'm really
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: sweat and then I start to dig in. And then
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: when I do. What I do is I have two
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: different timers and one of them I have this ringside
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: timer that will give you these thirty second like dings,
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: so to give you three minutes, but it gives a
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: different sound that goes off at thirty seconds, and so
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: that's three minute no. So you know when to sprint,
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: So you have sprinting times and then you have other
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: times where you're sort of coasting and then the number
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: goes off and they sprint. And then I also do
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: tobatas and so tabatas that protocol is twenty seconds work,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: ten seconds rest, So I do that proto called My
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: favorite way to do that one is actually on the
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: air dine, so I have that. Yes, the Rogue machine
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: is the best. It's called the Echo bike. The Rogue
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: is like mad they make this. It's such a sturdy,
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: fucking rock solid piece of equipment, the Rogue Aerodyne and
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: dig in. Yeah, it's a Rogue one though they called
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: the Echo bikes. Some of them. Get a picture of
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: the Rogue one. It's much sturdier than the other ones
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: that I've seen, and so I do. And it has
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: Tabata built into the system.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: So you'll do that res so brittle.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's eight, eight reps of this, so twenty
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: second sprint, ten second rest, twenty second sprint, ten second rests.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: You do that for eight a series of eight. So
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: that's the Rogue one. It's real thick and robust and
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: you go fucking ham on it called the Echo bike. Yeah,
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: is for me the best way to increase my cardio.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: That Tabata protocol. I don't know. Some guy named Tabata
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: invented that protocol. But what is that treadmill with the weight? Yeah?
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: Oh the hit treadmill. Yeah that's great too. Yeah, I
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: ordered want to Yeah, it's like a farmer's exactly. But
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: you're going uphill on a treadmill. Let's go, let's go.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: It's all about work, you know, getting your body to
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: slowly build up to more and more work.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: Make sure you're taking mineral salts when you're doing.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I take a lot of ship. Yeah yeah, I'm
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: always take well. I use element you know, yeah, element
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: that stuff, and I put a I'm addicted to that
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: chili mango flavor. Oh it's so good. Is it spicy?
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: A little bit? Really touch, just to touch a spice.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: I really like it. So I'll have like a sixty
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: four ounce water with four of those poured into it
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: and sixty four ounces. Yeah, and so I'm just hammering it.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: So but that's made a giant impact in cramps. I
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: don't get cramps any Yeah.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of people think that, you know, sodium is
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: It's funny how many people think sodium is the enemy.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: There's interesting more bullshit like the like the cholesterol bullshit,
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: Like there's so many people, Oh, your sodium, you're gonna
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: have a high bloodbrose, you're gonna die. Yeah, all your
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: cholesterol from your carnivore dot, you're gonna die.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: Like, bit work out with me, you'll die, Yeah, you'll die.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: Kill you yeah, just one leg kick yeah.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: I mean with the workout. Yeah, it's fun. I take
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: people through my workout. I love taking people through it
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 1: because I've done it for so long that it's it's
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: so hard, but I've built my system up to be
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: able to tolerate it. So when I bring people, and
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: even people that work out, they're like Jesus Christ, like
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: this is a lot of shit, Like yeah, yeah, how
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: long do you work out? Ninety minutes? It's at least
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: ninety minutes, Yeah, yeah, Because I I do what's called
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I'm not doing endurance training, I do
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: the strong first protocol. So Pavelo Tatsoline he developed this
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: kettlebell protocol where so a lot of people like to
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: work to failure. I don't work to failure ever, but
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: I do the same amount of reps. So, like say,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: if I have a seventy pound kettlebell right and I'm
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: doing cleans and presses, if I can do I could
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: probably do twenty reps to failure seventy pounds you're talking
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: about press? Yeah, down, clean, press, Like if I go
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: to failure, I don't know. I probably could do like
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: twenty reps with seventy pounds, but I don't do twenty reps.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: I do ten, and then I put it down and
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: then I wigit like several minutes, and then I'll do
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: my left side, and then I wait several minutes more
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: and then I'll do my right side again. So I
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: am completely rested by the time I do my second set.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm getting those twenty reps in, but I'm doing
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: it in two sets rather than in one set, and
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: so then I'll just do multiple sets to get the
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: same amounts work in. I think I heard him describing
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: this to you.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: It's it's the amount of work, yes, right, So he's
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: outworked you, yes, because he's done more.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: But you have to have time, and you you will
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: feel like a lazy bitch because you're doing your set,
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: but then your your heart rates completely drop down before
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: you do it again. Really, Yeah, I take a long time,
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: I watch TV, I'll get on my phone, I fuck off,
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: I sit down, and you feel like a lazy bitch.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: But I'm doing it over two plus hours. Wow. So
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: when it's all over, I'm getting a lot of reps,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: but I'm not getting the same breakdown of form. So
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: the way he says it is he says that strength
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: is a skill, and that you shouldn't be doing skills
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: when you're exhausted, like he doesn't believe in like CrossFit
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: and like all these workouts where you're going to like
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: extreme repetitions where you're breaking down your your body's fat.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: People get injured that way, yeah, lot, and some people don't,
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: you know, but these are lead athletes and you build
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: yourself up to it, and I understand them. I'm not
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: against you.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: Notice that you got not either, But have you noticed
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: that you've gotten a lot stronger?
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like yeah, yeah, yeah by doing it this way. Well,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: this is a thing like I don't bench press. But
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: one time we were doing this uh just podcast, and
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: we were drinking and we were drunk, and we all
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: like went to see, I don't even drunk. I don't
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: bench press, but I bench pressed two twenty five thirteen
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: times and I don't do it. I don't know. I
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: was like, let's see, and I was like, yep, but
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: that's no bench pressing. I don't bench press.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: What do you do for your chest?
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: I do push ups. I do one hundred push ups
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: a day, and I do dips. That's it.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dis Yeah, So I don't have a big chest.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: So what else do you do you supplement with? So
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: you take like every day is amazing every day I think,
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: you know, especially for women. By the way, I think
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: if you're a female and you're forty years or older,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: you need to be taken.
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's great for your mind too. It's creating function,
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: cognitive function, and also cognitive function. If you're sleep impaired.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: It's one of the few things that's shown that can
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: completely diminish the effects of sleep deprivation. You should most
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: certainly make up for that sleep. Don't get me wrong,
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you don't need sleep. Just take creatine.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: You definitely need sleep. We were talking about this the
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: other day. I think it's one of the most important
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: things that people neglect. So I take creatine every day.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: I take all the supplements that you recommended to me
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: tmg methyl fol aid. I take lots of vitamin d
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: K two, all that jazz.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: Do you take that ten X optimized, you take the
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: multivitamin or do you take them separately?
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: I take everything separate. I take I use pure encapsulations,
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: vitamin pacts. Yeah, so they have a pact that has
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: like basically all your ship and then on top of
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: that pile on you know, when I'm thinking that I've
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: started taking that. I've been taking actually for a while
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: that I was having a decrease in my eyesight and
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: it was pretty notice as you know, age related macular degeneration.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: So I started taking macular support by pure encapsulations. That
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: seems to have had an effect. But really what's had
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: an effect is the red light BECK. I know, red
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: light bet has had a big effect. People like you,
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: text me.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: Bro, my eyes is totally improving.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: My stop deteriorating and start it improved slightly. Yeah, it's definitely.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: We're the point where I could look at my phone.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: I don't need glasses because I was using reading glasses
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: all the time when I was looking at my phone,
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: and now I don't need them at all anymore.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I would, Yeah, definitely, Uh, red light therapy.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: I would add when I gave you the other day,
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: those perfect aminos, which is just essentially the nine essential
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: amino acids. You know, we talk about how most people
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: are trying to dose proteins so they can get to
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 2: the amino acid equivalent, or they're taking imperfect proteins like
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: or incomplete proteins like collagen, which which can't build which
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: is a great protein but it won't build muscle.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: But this is an important point too. You were talking
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: about the other the collagen does not build collagen, and
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: this is yeah.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that the idea that we can
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: target direct proteins is a fallacy, you know. I use
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: the analogy that we don't eat our nails to grow
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: our nails, and we don't eat our hair to grow
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: our hair. But we think that we can eat collagen
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: to go collagen, and that's actually not true. I'm not
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: anti collagen. I'm just saying if you eat collagen or
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: put collagen in your coffee, it doesn't show up as
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: collagen in your skin. My preference will be you take
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: something that is a has all of the nine essential
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: amino acids. I take one called perfect aminos, but there's
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: other products out there that are all nine essential amino acids.
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: You take, can I pour that into the water with
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: the hydrogen, with the electrolytes in, it is not going
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: to have any diminished I think.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: The best morning cocktail is to take a mineral salt
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: like a Baja gold salt or a Celtic salt, add
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: that to your drinking water. Draub a hydrogen tablet in there.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: Take a scoop of perfect aminos, put that in there, hydrate,
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: mineralize and get the amino acid.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you another question about creatine. Is there
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: any decreased benefit in taking creatine gummies versus creatine powder?
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I haven't looked at the at
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: the at the bioavailability. I mean, there's there's two types
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: of creatine, which you know, monohydrate in HCl. Monohydrate is
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: where all of the research is. There's a lot more
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: research on creatine amountohydrate. But creatine also comes in the HDL,
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: the hydrochali form. And I tell people that if they
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: if they take cretein amounto hydrate and they and they
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: have bloating, which some women do, they'll have a little
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: water retention or some bloating, then just take the creten HDL.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: What about HMG with creatine no issues of not at all?
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: Is that a good thing? Because I know that a
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: lot of companies they combined creatine in HMG for some reason. Yes,
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: what is the benefit of that combining the two of them?
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 2: We cant So it's a mile fibril uptake or cellular uptake, right,
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: So bioavailability is a lot of these a lot of
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: things that we we pair together for bioavailability, like D
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: three with K two and magnesium as well.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and magnesium is one of the critical divisions.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: I always take that with D three and K two.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: You take magnesium with D three and K two, that's perfect.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: That's a way that wouldn't you know?
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: Can you take too much magne?
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: You can take too much magnesium. It's a little hard.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: I mean it's a really essential light metal. I mean
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 2: you have to really over supplement with that. I take
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: a nighttime. I take this thing called by bio optimizers
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: called magnesium Breakthrough, which has seven forms.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: Of magnesium in it. I'm a big fan of that.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: You can also isolate the magnesiums if you have trouble sleeping.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: Magnesium three and eight is really good. Magnesium citrate and
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 2: glacinate are good for intestinal motility. So if you're not
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: somebody that has regular bowel movements, magnesium deficiency is highly
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: linked to poor intestinal motility. So if you're not somebody
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: that wakes up within forty five minutes of the day
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: and has a bowel movement, you may want to look to,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: you know, magnesium supplementation the night prior and see if
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: that fixes your vowve movement. Also, you know people that
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: have that ruminate at night, who you know, they lay
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: down to go to sleep and their body tire, but
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: their mind awake. This is generally a rise and something
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: called catecholamines. These these neurotransmitters in the brain that create
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: awakened state, They're also the same neurotransmitters that create anxiety
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: and trigger our fight or flight response.
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: A lot of times.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: Magnesium, methofolate and a simple be complex will quiet those squirrels,
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: very very simple methylated nutrients to actually break down those
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: catechola means. Because you know, I talk about this all
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: the time. A lot of people that suffer from anxiety
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: are never really told what it is like. Nobody sits
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: them down and tells them what is anxiety?
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: Why do I feel? Why do sometimes I feel like
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: I'm in a heightened state of awareness? And then I
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 2: move from a heightened state of awareness to being anxious,
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: And then I move from being anxious to full blown anxiety,
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: Like I actually feel the presence of a fear, and
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: then you know, sometimes that presence of a fear goes
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: into like a rapid heart rate or a cute hearing
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: or pupils dilate, and then that goes into a full
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: blown panic attack. And if catechola means continue to rise
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: you and even have a full blown paranoia, it's it's
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: this rise in this category of neurotransmitter. It's called catechola means.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: So if we identified anxiety as that, and I'm not
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: saying it's always that, but the majority of people have
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: that form where uh, they have metabolism issues because of
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: a gene mutation called compt and they are warriors not warriors,
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: So they lay down and go to sleep at night,
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: their mind wakes up. They start ruminating.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 1: Thoughts at night.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: If they think about anything at night, they'll take it
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: straight to worst case scenario. In every scenario that they
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: that they ruminate on at night, they take it to
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: worst case scenario.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 1: That's crazy that that could be nutritionally related.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely nutritionally related. Because when you talk about what
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: do catechola means do in the body, there are fight
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: or flight response. So if you walked out of this
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: door right here and somebody was standing in front of
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: you with a knife right in that hallway, your besides
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: kicking their ass You're pupils would dilate, your heart rate
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: would increase, your extremities would flood with blood. You're hearing
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 2: it would get acute.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: You would instantly start having a fight or flight response. Well,
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: what happened, right?
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: I mean that person didn't do anything to you, Yet
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: what happened inside of your body that caused that response?
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: You received a dump of catecholamines, M nor penephron, epinephrine, phedrone,
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: and dopamine, one of those we call adrenaline. So you're
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: in there hyperacute state. So that's that's like we dump
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 2: those to an eight, full blown fight or flight response. Well,
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: what happens if we dump them to a three? Well,
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: if that happens at night, your body tired, but your
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: mind awake, and so you lay there just ruminating because
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: your mind is an awakened state even though your body
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 2: is tired. And so if you look at the pathways
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: that actually break down, Catechola means how do we downregulate?
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: Catechola means complex of B vitamins, a form of a
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: form of B twelve called methyl kobalaman, which you can
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: get anywhere guys, A something called methyl fol eate, and
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: every once in a while Sammy as the dentisolmathidy. It
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: is astounding what you can do to human beings by
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 2: putting those raw materials back.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: Has anybody ever done a study on people with paranoid
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: schizophrenia to find out if they're lacking on all this?
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: No doubt paranoid schizophrenias are the next level, you Know's
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: what's really interesting is I interviewed a Harvard physician on
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: my podcast, and he was treating drug resistant mental illness
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: with diet, mainly keto diets, and he found that the
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: beta hydroxy but eight, which is the keytone body, the
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 2: main key tone body in this and basic supplementation fixing
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: their methylation pathways, meaning supplementing for methylation poor conversion of
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 2: certain chemicals led to more better behavioral changes than they
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: were having in the drug resistance and UH mental illness group.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 2: And it's it's really fascinating because we don't like to
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: think that nutrient deficiencies could lead to serious mental illness.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: Could could you just google methylation chart? Can I just
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: show your charter methylation? The reason why I want to
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: put it up here is because and just click on
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: any one of them once you once you put it
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 2: up there, it's going to look like this complicated myriad.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: Just see a click on that one. So this is
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: something I've committed to memory. But the reason why I
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: show a lot of people this chart is for what's
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: not on here. So this is what we call methylation. Okay,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: this is this is the process that's going on three
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: hundred billion times a day inside of all of your cells.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: And you'll see trip the fan and tyrosine and phenolalanine
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 2: and quino gass and lacticas in cholesterol. You see all
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: of this stuff on this chart. The reason why I
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: show people this chart is because this is going on
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: three hundred billion times a day inside of your body,
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: every minute, every hour of every day. And what you
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: do not see on this chart is a single synthetic,
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: a single chemical, or a single pharmaceutical. So why is
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: it that we think synthetics, pharmaceuticals, and chemicals could be
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: the answer to deficiencies in this chart?
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: They're not.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: So what happens if I just start wandering around this
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: chart and I find something like serotonin and I go, wow,
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: let me just let me just serotonin is the main
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: driver of mood. I wonder how serotonin is made? Oh,
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: I actually, in fact, there's serotonin right there. What is
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: it made from? Just follow that raw up? Oh, it's
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: made from trip to fan. And what do I need
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: in order to convert trip to fan to serotonin? I
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: need five HTP, I need thiamine, I need a complex
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: of B vitamins. Could it be possible that a complex
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: of the vitamins is stopping me from I'm converting trip
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: to fan into serotonin?
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: And what happens if I can't convert trip to fan
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: into serotonin? Serotonin drops? And if serotonin drops, I cannot
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 2: assemble moods that require serotonin. So now I've been told
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: I have a mood disorder and I have a nutrient deficiency.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: Look at this anxiety add ADHDC that on there? Okay,
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: what do we make dopamine from phenolalanine and tyrosine? What
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: if I had a deficiency in phenylalanine or tyrosine, Oh,
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't make it. The neurotransmitter dopamine.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: What is dopamine?
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: Dopamine is the main driver of behavior.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: Well, what happens if.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: Dopamine is low? Now I have an addiction? Why Because
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction. So
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: could I have addictive behavior because I'm low in dopamine
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: and not actually just addicted to nicotine, alcohol, drugs, permiscuity, gambling. Absolutely?
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 2: And why is it that most most addictions have a
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: tendency to shift and never really go away? If you've
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 2: ever really been an addict or ever known a true addict,
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: why is it that their addiction has a tendency to shift.
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: And not go away. Yeah, Like some of them find
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: a healthy thing to get addicted to, like running.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be a So alcoholics become workaholics. Workaholics become
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: work alcoholics. When I used to compete amateur in in
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: long distance triathlons, most of the guys that I raced
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: with were recovering addicts of something.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: Some of the scariest guys I've ever trained with were
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: former drug addicts because they're this is their new They're
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: fucking driven in a weird kind of crazy way.
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: Why are they driven so hard?
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: Well, some of them actually almost died. Well real that,
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: but you know what, I've been to death's door and
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 2: The absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction. And
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: we never treat the dopamine deficiency. We only treat the
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: physical addiction. So we get you off alcohol, and now
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: you're on you know, sybox, and you get you off boxone,
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: and now you're gambling.
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: You're off of gambling and smoking cigarettes, and you done
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes. You're you know a lot of alcoholics anonymous
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: people are smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee constantly. Now why
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: Because they're chasing the dopamine deficiency. Rarely, if ever, did
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: a true out, you know, addict wake up one day
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: and just say I want to get really banged up.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 2: The majority of addicts woke up one day and said
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: I want to feel normal, And it was the search
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 2: for normalcy that developed the addiction. They smoked a cigarette,
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 2: they felt normal. They took a drink, and they could socialize.
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: They were promiscuous, and they kind of felt normal. They
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 2: jumped off a fucking mountain in a squirrel suit, and
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 2: the rush dopamine actually brought their dopamine level to normal
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: and they actually felt calm fifteen inches away from death.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: And so the deficiency in dopamine very often drives this.
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 2: And we labeled these people with mental illnesses, we labeled
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 2: them with mood disorders, but serotonin is a part of
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: the recipe of mood. So if you said to me
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: what is a mood? What is an emotional state? I
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 2: would say it's a collection of neurotransmitters bound to oxygen.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: So let's say that you said, okay, what's happiness. Okay,
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 2: that's so much serotonin, so much dope means so much
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 2: an orpinifer, and so much on prefferent boom. You put
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 2: these together, you have the emotion happiness. Well, what if
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: I just took serotonin out?
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 2: Like what if I went to a bakery chef and said, hey, chef,
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: you can bake whatever you want, you just can't use butter.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: And so I took butter out and it didn't sound
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 2: like a big deal. It's only one one component, But
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 2: think of how many recipes that would affect cookies, pastries, pies, brownies. Well,
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: moods are no different. I say, Joe, you can be
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: in whatever mood you want, you just can't use serotonin.
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: So now any mood that you go to as symbol
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: that requires serotonin you can't manufacture. So now you have
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 2: a mood disorder. Instead of taking a step back and saying, well,
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: why doesn't you have serotonin where's serotonin made? Well, Serotonin's
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: made in the gut. Ninety percent of it's right here.
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 2: So if you don't have it here, you can't have
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: it here. And so then why don't we go to
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 2: the factory in the gut that makes serotonin. Where is
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 2: the factory that turns trip the fan into the neurotransmitter serotonin, Well,
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 2: it's in the gut. What has that done through a
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: process called methylation? You mean, if I'm deficient in certain
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: vitamins or nutrients, that methylation cycle is not working and
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: I might not produce serotonin. Therefore I might have a
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: mood disorder. Yes, I am I saying that all mood.
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 1: Disorders come from that.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: No, but there are so many things that come from
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: this methylation cycle that are so potentially easy to fix
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: with basic supplementation. You know, for two years, for two
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: years in our initial clinic, my wife and I and
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: our doctor, we pulled blood work. I think it was
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: about sixteen hundred patients or so they came through our clinic.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: We pulled blood work, and we pulled these basic biomarkers CBCCMP,
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 2: LIBT panel, hormon panel, and nutrient deficiencies. We also pulled
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: this methylation test right, looking at five genes of methylation,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: and you can get these methylation tests done anywhere. And
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 2: we looked at these five genes, and then what we
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: would do is we would solve with supplementation for the
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: genetic deficiency and watch what happened to the blood biomarkers.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: You would see kidney filtration rates improve, you would see
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 2: waste elimination like people become more regular. You would see
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 2: see reactive protein, these these non specific markers of information drop.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: You would certainly see things like homocystine drop. People have
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: that very very high levels of homossystine. You supplement them
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: with the right nutrients, a B complex, something called trimethyl glycine,
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: and they start to break down homocysteine and then all
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 2: of a sudden they're reporting their blood pressures or turning
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 2: to normal and have less frequent headaches. It is astounding
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: to me how many people are just nutrient efficient and
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: don't accept that basic supplementation. Oh, we can get everything
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: from diet.
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 1: Bullshit.
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 2: If you look at a soil lineage study from nineteen
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 2: forty five and a soil lineage study right now, you
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: would be astounded to see how depleted our fruit supply
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 2: is our soil is add processed food and all this
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: other stuff to it. You don't stand a chance. You
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: need basic supplementation. All human beings need the same things.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 2: We need two essential fatty acids. Essential means they're essential
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 2: for life. You need nine essential amino acids. So you
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: can supplement with the nine essential amino acids in the morning.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 2: You can supplement with the two essential fatty acids. So
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: make a three fatty acids like black seed oil or
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 2: good maga fish oil. You can supplement with the minerals.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: So many of us are mineral deficient, and we don't
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: realize the expression of mineral deficiency.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: Now, what is the best kind of minerals to take?
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: Is it like keylated minerals? Is it? I take one
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: called Baja gold sea salt.
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: It's probably one of my other favorite biohacks because of
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: a bag of Baja gold sea salt, like a celt salt,
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 2: will have all these trace minerals in it. A fifteen
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 2: dollars bag will last you five years. It's dirt cheap,
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 2: and you can take a quarter to a half tea
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 2: spoon of this, put it in your drinking water. I'll
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 2: throw a hydrogen tablet in there and some amino acids.
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 2: Take that with a methylated multivitamin, and take that with
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 2: an Omega three fatty acid, and you have all the
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 2: bases covered.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: First thing in the morning. And if you don't have
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: to take that with the vitamins with food.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 2: I would take the vitamin D three with food. I
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 2: would actually take all of that. When I would take
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: the amino acids and the hydrogen and the sea salt
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 2: on an empty stomach is fine. Whenever you're going to
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: take your multi vitamin and your D three, which is
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 2: fat soluble, I would take those with food. So first
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 2: in the morning, you just hydrated and mineralized the body,
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 2: just with a basic sea salt. Just hydrate and mineral
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of good mineral.
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: In the amino acids. Take an empty stomach.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 2: Amino acids you take on an empty stomach, and and
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 2: those amino acids, uh, those perfect amino acids won't won't
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 2: break a fast. They have their nonchloric or they have
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: I think one calorie, but they won't break it fast.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: And now you have all nine of the essential amino acids.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 2: You've got the majority of the essential minerals. You've hydrated
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 2: yourself and you put hydrogen gas into your to your blood,
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 2: you will feel the difference, right, You'll just feel.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: It's a simple thing to do.
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: And it's such a simple thing to do. And I
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: get so much flat for telling people to do them
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 2: like it's just this is just get the basic dude,
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: It's just too crazy crazy. I'm don't have to start
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 1: shutting it all off. Yeah, you have to it. It
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 1: makes It'll make your life a lot better, you know
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, thank you, And people are listening.
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 1: That's working. Yeah. There's just too many people out there
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: that just crying for attention. And one of the ways
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 1: they get attention is by attacking people who are getting
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: positive attention. Yeah. Yeah, that's a shame. Fuck those people.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: Anything else we should talk about before wrap this up?
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: I think then we covered a lot. We can review
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 1: this and go back and forth.
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 2: I love coming out here and chopping it up with you, man.
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 1: I love fights. Tomorrow, Yes, sir, I'm excited. Yeah, tomorrow's
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 1: the Wayans and then Saturday nights the fights. I'm pumped by.
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  Speaker 2: The way, dude. Joe Rogan on The Ultimate Human podcast. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that was cool because we went down we went down
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  Speaker 2: some rabbit holes.
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  Speaker 1: Man, we went down the pyramids and yeah, we talked
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: about a lot of cool ship. Yeah, a lot of
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 1: cool shit in there. Well, thank you, Gary, thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much for everything. I really appreciate you. Tell Everyboddy
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• 2:40:37
  Speaker 2: Sure you can go to the Ultimate Human dot com.
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  Speaker 2: I have a VIP community there where all I do
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  Speaker 2: dot com. The podcast is the Ultimate Human and then
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 2: just my name carry Park all.
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: Right, Garrett Man, thank you brother, I appreciate you. All right,
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  Speaker 1: bye everybody,