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The God Box · Erotic Spirit Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: I hope part of everyone's filter is that your box, one solid foundation or wall of the box, is self-value and self-love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Taking care of oneself and just knowing, knowing that we each and every one of us are deserving of love.
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  SPEAKER_00: And each and every one of us is deserving of understanding and being okay with our own power and choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that should be a that should be at least one side, if not the whole bottom foundation of everybody's box, in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it would change everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just would change everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: This podcast discusses sensitive and sexual topics that may be triggering.
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  SPEAKER_00: Please understand we are not therapists.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are simply sharing from our own journey and experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Erotic Spirit, where soul, sexuality, and real life meet.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Angela Shelby.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm Jenna Lee.
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  SPEAKER_00: And along with our own dialogue, we channel in information from ascended masters, spirit guides, angels, and other friends in spirit to talk about sexuality, spirituality, intimacy, pleasure, desire, recovering from trauma, and where all of those subjects meet.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're not familiar with channeling, channeling is allowing higher-dimensional beings to use our voices and our bodies to bring in information.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today we are talking about sex in the God box.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you stick around, we'll talk about how we sometimes unintentionally put God, source, universe, in a box.
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  SPEAKER_01: In a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what that means.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how to bust out of the box.
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  SPEAKER_01: How to bust it out, baby.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just break free.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are limitless beings, baby.
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  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is a phrase I often use.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, grew up Catholic, so lots of restrictions and uh talking about those restrictions and the phrase stepping out of our box.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, that step out of your comfort zone, step out of your box.
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  SPEAKER_00: As I grew away from Catholicism, and as I found myself in my own relationship with God, I came to understand that we as humans do our best to label, classify, and put things in a framework so that we can understand ourselves and understand our universe.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just how our minds work, it's how we organize information.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that being said, we do that with God because otherwise we would just huddle in a corner and not know what to do with ourselves because it's too big a concept.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's too big to try and fit in our head.
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  SPEAKER_00: I try it sometimes and I start like pondering those big questions, and I have the desire to sit in a corner and just huddle in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I can't do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I need my box, I need my edges.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how that's how I survive and keep my sanity.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because I need them, it doesn't mean God needs them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm always thinking and telling myself and others, don't put God in a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cannot put God in a box because God is the box.
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  SPEAKER_00: God is everything outside of the box and everything inside of the box.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I can't put God in a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not possible, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my limitations on what God is and what God thinks works for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: It helps me take those big universal concepts and distill them into something I can use for myself.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it is folly for me to impose that on everyone else and try and put God in a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: I put God in my box.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not the other way around.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And something that's right digestible, something that is under sp understandable to our own concepts and our in our consciousness and where we're at.
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  SPEAKER_01: And everyone's at different spaces.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when I say God, I say God source universe.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I like to bring that up too because if if you're listening, I I do use them interchangeably, but I you know they're they're all the same frequency to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: They all mean, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: They're just that universal energy, that creation energy, the connection to all that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when we talk about the connection to all that is, all that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's all that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that can't be put in a box, you know, that uh physically, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or energetically.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so there are a lot of concepts I know that we'll talk about in this episode, and that will just start to open the idea on how expansive energy is, and that connects into all areas of our life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And not only expansive, ever expanding to think that all that is God, all that is energy, like all the examples of creation that are going on, creation is always creating.
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  SPEAKER_00: It never stops.
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  SPEAKER_00: It never stops, whether it be nature or whether it be poets.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we are always hungry for more music, more stories, yeah, more understanding.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's creation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So to say God does not change or that God does not promote change would be insane.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's the paradox.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like when I tune into God, it is solid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it feels immutable, unchangeable.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's this solid solidity to it, this love.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet, on the other hand, it's like watching flowers perpetually blossoming over and over and over again in a millions and millions of variations, all at the same time within this immutable, immutable, loving space.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's that paradox of God is unchanging and yet God is always creating.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So God is always changing at the same time, always making something more.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that and that's it's coming through too.
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  SPEAKER_01: What after my out-of-body experience, I started to really trust in my connection channeling with source.
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  SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that came through is this creation of this co-creation really uh with source and universe on this understanding or really just understanding of universal knowledge in a different way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so understanding, because you're talking about creation, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where we're also reflections of God, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And universe, and we are also creating, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: So we look at this convergence state, or what's what's coming to me is called as chalice of creation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there is these universal hallways that just ever keep on expanding, and it's infinite knowledge and it's connecting into these spaces.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's like a convergent point where or the way that it's it came into me where I help to um, I help to not find, but just move into a a state of being where this energy, this universal energy, the understanding that we are creators, just as much as right, God is creating that reflection there, I think is really important when we're starting to understand these higher concepts and being limitless and like the box that we have used to that we unintentionally have put God in.
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  SPEAKER_01: But when we start to, I see my perspective is when we start to see ourselves as creators, our consciousness expands and meaning our awareness to self and our connection in that mirror and that fractal expression of God, and we start to then move out of the box ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: At least that's my that was once to come in.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's my experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and maybe we're all on different journeys, but I I started to float in this space where I'm like, oh, this is a good convergent point of all that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm learning to ground that in and understand that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you were talking about the hallways, I just want to ask and clarify.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh you work in the Akashic Records, which is the records of our experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like all that we go through, that is our brain trust.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it all goes up there, it's all recorded, and we can all we can access it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's how you help people.
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  SPEAKER_00: But there's the Akashic hallway, and then there are other hallways that you told me about the Hall of Truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I didn't know about the chalice.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll have to talk about that one later.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, these places, there's other repositories of knowledge in a different way.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what you were talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, essentially, hallways is kind of like when we talk about what is we like to talk look at things as libraries and books, and that's our understanding, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So essentially hallways is it's just another way to say like people sometimes move, they visually see themselves move down hallways, and there are other spaces where there's information from the universe.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have what's happened to us, but then we have all of the thing, all the knowledge of the universe, and we all we have to do is just ask.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some people just they see the hallways, so yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for can I just say the hallways, and that's the other thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we can't put God in a box, but we need our own boxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just it's how we navigate life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so God works with our boxes, and I I say God because again, Catholic, God or goddess.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just how it is in my brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's how it's in my box.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for other people, it's the energy of the universe, or it's just divine connection, or it's source.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I'm talking about God, when I'm talking about God, just substitute whatever works for you in that spot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um it is important to remember that God is working with my box.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my filter.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I get information, like uh for you, the Akashic Hallways, it looks like a hallway.
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  SPEAKER_00: For someone else, it might look like a big library.
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  SPEAKER_00: For somebody else, it might just be this field of color and energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's that is spirit working with our box.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is spirit working with us and how we see the world and to help us communicate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I love about what you said and the hallways is that we are always being asked to step outside of our box.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like my box feels like this comfortable little bay that I live in, and I'm sitting on the dock, and spirit is like a dolphin out there playing in the water, saying, Come outside your box a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to show you something.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, it's like, ooh, that looks uncomfortable.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really deep out there, and I can't see the bottom, but I trust you, and this has paid off in the past.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're just cute and I love you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yes, I will do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then my box gets a little bigger or it changes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But something else I love and that I have found to be a truth is that I don't care what you believe or what your box is, God is always willing to meet you wherever you're at.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I got this, it was funny image, serious but funny.
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  SPEAKER_00: But somebody was talking about the Aztecs and how they sacrificed people.
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  SPEAKER_00: They carved out your heart, and that was just spirit to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was their religion, that was their guiding light, it's how it was their box.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's felt, it was how they felt they saw the universe and could create that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was talking about or thinking about places of spiritual power.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was going, I feel God in a Catholic church, even though I'm not Catholic anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't care what holy place it is, I can feel God there because people have asked God to be there, that spirit, and God will meet you where you're at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking about the Aztecs at the same time, and I'm like, God, that would be weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I got this download of information, and that that connection with God I have was very calm and laughing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went, yeah, I was there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was there and I met them where they were at, and they were telling me where they wanted to go as a society, and then things changed, and that went away because what they were practicing and where they were saying where they wanted to go did not jive, and their society changed, you know, and had lots of trauma, but it's what brought about the change.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again, God's always willing to meet us where we're at.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I we're I'm talking about that, this is a sexual podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's relate that to sexual issues.
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  SPEAKER_00: We to say God contemns people for their sexuality, or that God has a box around sex, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no box around God.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, God is meeting us around our own boxes, so our limitations on sexuality and what we believe, especially in the name of God, when somebody tells us this is in the name of God, um, it is it is limitations of our own box.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not God's limitations.
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  SPEAKER_00: I, my experience is it, I can guarantee it, God has no box.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're like, let's just move it into sexuality.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, at but yeah, just to really add a different layer in it too, or just a different some of my experiences, my own personal experiences or what or what I see out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: I see a lot of times, even in the spiritual community where you'll get people who are they are doing this this kind of work, they are working with energy, and there's even hush around talking about sexuality and sex.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, even sometimes people in their in their own perspectives out of love, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I I see them through love, but they they say that spirituality has no, like, there's no connecting into talking about it, you know, publicly or whatever that may be, because it's all there, it's coming from a different space.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's coming from ego.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we got to be in the higher dimensional spaces and move the energy from the those lower chakras up.
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  SPEAKER_01: And really, it's all one.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's all one and it's all love.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's our own divine expression.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, how we're talking about it, are we talking about it from a space of trauma?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are we talking about it in a space of love and connection and truly deep understanding or or trying to understand?
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's where we say, okay, let's break, break the fucking box.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's let's break the box in this area.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's part of I know why myself I'm inspired to to co-house the podcast with you, is yeah, because in a space of love, let's connect into sexuality, let's not limit it to things because then the shadows come up.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, that there's a there's the restrictions that are moving from an unconscious, shadowy place.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's time to break the fucking box.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, and this is the other thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I respect everyone's sexual experiences and what they believe.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't care if you're Amish or Christian or Jewish or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is important to honor all of those things because those are the people's boxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's working for them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I felt inspired to do this with you though, because the boxes that people are cultivating around sexuality right now, their filters, their beliefs around it, especially when they believe it is grounded in the soul of truth of God truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I know different, my ex what I'm basically doing, we are sharing our experiences because our experiences have been different.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the boxes that are being used right now are not working so well for people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: My goal is to help people have a different box if they want it.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they want it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to push my box on anyone, but I would like people to look at their own boxes, their own filters, and just ask, is this working for me?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's so much that's not working for people.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's so much shame, there's so much pain.
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  SPEAKER_00: It opens people to predators, it opens, it opens them to self-destruction.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's not okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's like it's time to have other options, other boxes and other filters so that people can define and redefine their own boxes based on their own empowerment and independence rather than all that has been handed to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's like expanding boxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I mean, this is the other thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whatever you we believe about sexuality, I mean, chastity is a sexual option.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is a celebration of sexuality.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I'm talking about people's boxes, honoring all the boxes, absolutely, and just giving people other options.
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  SPEAKER_00: And whatever it is, I if somebody is chaste and does not want to participate in sex, fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm hoping they're doing it from a place of I feel empowered doing this, I feel loved doing this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I feel like this is the best choice for me, and I am glorying in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not because I feel I have no other choice, or I don't feel like I'm enough, or I feel like I can't get what I need, or I feel like I have been told this and I'm doing it because I am afraid.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am afraid that I will be damned.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am afraid of what's out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That that is not the right box to be choosing from.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it's really important to have this distinct piece to or or this layer on if people decide to be celibate or or you know, they're just completely out of the game.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's it's all with intention, it's all with motivation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's a big important piece that is an individual journey that one self can only unwire and unpack themselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so part of having the conversation and being open about it is not to shame any of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our our sexual sovereignty, our sexuality is ours.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's our own expression, and it is not for even for me or you or anyone else to tell someone how to express it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's one owns individual journey, but it is having other ideas about, oh, where is this coming from?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, good.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel my I feel my power.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like that is a celebration.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love how you said it's a celebration of sexuality.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fuck yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, drop into that and own it, you know, like be proud of it and and love it and love yourself deeply because it is such a powerful decision when we're moving through that with love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope part of everyone's filter is that your box, one solid foundation or wall of of the box is self-value and self-love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Taking care of oneself and just knowing, knowing that we each and every one of us are deserving of love.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: And each and every one of us is deserving of understanding and being okay with our own power and choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that should be a that should be at least one side, if not the whole bottom foundation of everybody's box.
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  SPEAKER_00: In my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it would change everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just would change everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it is flexible.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you decide, if you're listening and you've decided that you wanted to be celibate, and then you start thinking and you're good, and you're like, oh my gosh, yes, I love this.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then you start to see your your ideas behind it shift and you want to switch out and you want to move in a different direction.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's all part of the experience and one's journey.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, and I remember, and I'm saying this because I'm remembering it hearing from someone who was asking my opinion about them and their and their celibacy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I said the same thing, all about intention and motivation.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're like, Yeah, it was all well intended at first.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I had all this this beautiful stuff coming from it and my energy and all of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then they were talking about, you know, retention as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's a whole other, you know, being, yeah, that's a whole, you know, not um ejaculating, right?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: And retaining.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And there was a lot of great motivation behind it and intention.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: And then the motivation and intention started to become, I've been doing it.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: So this is, I need to keep doing it.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: They actually end up saying that to me.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, I need to keep doing it because when I when I set a goal and I have something, I need it needs to be perfect.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Well, that's if you know, looking at your motivation and intention behind it and where you were at first, you're like, Oh, I'm I feel good, I feel empowered.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Just go behind it, look at it, and then don't be afraid to change.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: And that that means that there's any shame in your decision that's shifted either.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's all part of the experience.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: I love how you were talking about that, that things are designed to shift.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Things are designed to grow and change.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: Even if you're very set in your box, um, say someone who's celibate, like they'll be celibate forever.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's what they're comfortable with.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Even the celibacy box, there's going to be shifts and changes in it.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: It is not a stagnant state.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: There will be shifts in their energy and how they view life and what their views and perspectives are and what they feel in their body based on that choice.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like we so often think of sexuality and the limits we put on it, uh, and our spiritual beliefs too as unchangeable, that they do not change.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: And they do.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: It it the Bible doesn't change.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's been translated, um, translations change, our perception of it changes.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: But it's us that is changing, and what we are getting out of it is what is shifting.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: So we are always changing, we are always shifting to consider ourselves that this is my sexuality, this is how it's going to be, these are my beliefs, this is what I was taught, and we shove it in that box and expect it never to change.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's impossible.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: One way or another, it's gonna change, whether it's our shadows changing it or us consciously changing us, changing it, it's going to change.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: We change.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I brought up the they they're flashing me the Bible right now and the example.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: You can read a Bible passage, and on Thursday, this is what you got out of it.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: But then you read it again on Saturday, and it takes on a whole new meaning.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's because our box has shifted, and in that that piece of solid, unchangeable truth for so many people, it's not unchangeable.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: It is always changing with us, and what we see in it is changing.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: So let me ask why they're bringing this up.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: That wasn't my example.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Let me ask why they're bringing this up.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Who's bringing this up?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: My sexual teachers are bringing this up, and Jesus and Archangel Michael are bringing this up.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Let me ask why.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: We want you to understand that God changes and yet does not change.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Our solid love of you, our devotion to all that you are and the soul that you are is unchanging and immutable.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: The love of creation is unchanging and unmutable.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: The variations of all that you are, all that you can be, that grow within the soil of this unchanging love, that is where the joy is.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: That is where the glory is.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: That is the greatest joy of God is to watch creation unfold, to change, for perspective to change.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: We are here with you, not because we have to be, we are here with you because we want to be.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: We are here with you because you are a part of us, as we are a part of you.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: We are with you because we enjoy watching you change and grow and shift perspectives as much as you enjoy watching each other change and grow.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: How many of you sit on benches and watch people?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: It is you enjoying the creation and experience of another.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: How can you think change is evil?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: How can you think God does not change when change is the glory of the universe and choice is your greatest gift and creation from your creator?
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: How can your creator damn your choices when the choice of freedom was given to you without limit, without expectation, just simply with the joy of seeing what you would create?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: When a parent hands a child a package of finger paints and gives them a piece of paper or a wall to play with, the parent does not put limits on the child saying, You can only use orange, you can only use green, you can only use blue, and you can only create in these ways, you can only use these strokes.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, a parent hands a child a piece of paper and a pocket, a package of paint, and says, See this, see all that I have given you.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do with it?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then walks away.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: God is the same.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: God loves you unconditionally.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Anything you create cannot change his love for you.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so it is.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's innocence, children finger paint.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's that innocence of creation.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, go for it.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, look at all I have given you.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: Look at all the colors.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Go for it and see what you can make.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful, beautiful creation and chaos, and it's all limitless.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Limitless.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: So, what would be a takeaway that you have for you know what?
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: That would be my takeaway.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: My takeaway would be that image of the finger paint and what a loving parent does when they hand it hand their child finger paints.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, I love you, go for it.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: I want to see how you mush all these colors together and what you create, and that sense of I no judgment.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody judges finger painting.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: No one.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: That is the type of creation I feel when I they show me that image, that innocence of just here you go.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: What what are you going to create?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: What's your box?
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: I will meet you where you're at.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and it will be glorious.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: I can like it that feeling of just love, of just a loving parent.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever you create, love, it will be glorious.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Powerful.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: For me, I my takeaway would be that it's talking a lot about creation.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Creation is power.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: And power is creation, and they're interchangeable, and they're not mutually exclusive.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: They're all one.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I I see the box, but a lot of times this helps me expand and see through it and expand past the box and not even know there's a box anymore.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: So being able to tap in and tune into those frequencies and energies, and that really helps me see that my sexuality and expression of it is not limited either.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's just limitless.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: I like how you said that.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: The spirit, how did you say that right now?
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: That spirit helps you see through the box and realize there is no box.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: The box is an illusion.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and I and I get it because we we talked about it throughout this, but that's really the message that the universe is coming in right now, right?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is that that it is illusion.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes we create it because our own limitations, but these aspects and what we've talked about today, and what I know I've said has been my experience in helping me see the illusion of the box and expand with it, not against it.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:30
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