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Saga Book Club #10 - Volume 10 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody! Welcome back to the Saga Book Club on 22 Panels!
• 0:10
  Tad Eggleston: Volume 10!
• 0:12
  Tad Eggleston: We have moved… moved beyond.
• 0:16
  Tad Eggleston: The heartbreaking one.
• 0:18
  Matt: Hey.
• 0:19
  Matt: This one was more heartbreaking for me at the end.
• 0:22
  Tad Eggleston: Was it? I mean, there are… I mean, there are…
• 0:26
  Tad Eggleston: This is not, like, a happy one.
• 0:29
  Matt: No.
• 0:30
  Marisol: No.
• 0:31
  Tad Eggleston: This is not a happy one.
• 0:34
  Matt: It was harder for me to see the ending of this one than it was for the ending of the other one.
• 0:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the ending of this one, I mean.
• 0:40
  Marisol: Particularly.
• 0:40
  Tad Eggleston: And because it's when it finally sinks in for Hazel.
• 0:43
  Matt: Yo.
• 0:44
  Tad Eggleston: Hazel's been in that denial phase this whole time.
• 0:47
  Matt: Yup.
• 0:50
  Tad Eggleston: And actually, I'm gonna… Lee, I'm already, like, we're gonna want you to be talking about Hazel and Squire some.
• 0:59
  Larry Woods: Oh, yeah.
• 1:00
  Tad Eggleston: You got the clinical experience.
• 1:03
  Tad Eggleston: And probably, probably Alana, cause, cause, like…
• 1:08
  Tad Eggleston: Alana's changed in some subtle ways, too.
• 1:11
  Matt: Oh, totally.
• 1:12
  Tad Eggleston: But, I do want to start with…
• 1:17
  Tad Eggleston: Like, there, there is, there is a…
• 1:20
  Tad Eggleston: One thing that I think needs to be, called out immediately.
• 1:25
  Tad Eggleston: Just because… It's amazing.
• 1:32
  Tad Eggleston: And that's, oh… See, I was dumb, I should've…
• 1:38
  Matt: Is it the pirate ship?
• 1:39
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, that is also amazing.
• 1:42
  Matt: It's one of my favorite… Panels from this entire series.
• 1:47
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, absolutely. But I'm going to…
• 1:49
  Tad Eggleston: I don't need to tell you what song I played, because you already know it by heart.
• 1:54
  Tad Eggleston: It's the one you first heard in the background of that chain restaurant where you were having lunch with your road-tripping family. Enraptured, you asked your parents what was playing, and they replied, I have no idea, but it's terrible.
• 2:09
  Tad Eggleston: And in this moment, you began to understand that the universe no longer belonged to the generation who raised you.
• 2:16
  Tad Eggleston: You could hear something that they couldn't. Something strange and beautiful and perfect.
• 2:22
  Tad Eggleston: By the time the final chords faded into nothingness, you were already changed forever.
• 2:29
  Tad Eggleston: That song, of course, was Assassins of Sadness by Fartbox.
• 2:36
  Matt: Art Box, one of my favorite bands.
• 2:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, like, that…
• 2:48
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, this is… that's issue 55.
• 2:53
  Tad Eggleston: Not quite the end of 55, because, you know, the aforementioned pirate ship is the…
• 3:00
  Tad Eggleston: End of… well, not… also not quite the end of the 55, but…
• 3:05
  Tad Eggleston: Closer to the end of 55 was.
• 3:07
  Josh Eiserike: My max.
• 3:11
  Tad Eggleston: But that moment… was the first… for me… Like, major catharsis after.
• 3:28
  Tad Eggleston: Marco's death.
• 3:30
  Tad Eggleston: You know, so, okay.
• 3:33
  Tad Eggleston: The universe goes on.
• 3:36
  Tad Eggleston: And there's a band called Fartbox.
• 3:39
  Tad Eggleston: And that's fucking awesome.
• 3:43
  Tad Eggleston: So… Alright, now, now that I've read that, I, I, I, like…
• 3:49
  Tad Eggleston: I think I'm probably the only one here who's read this volume multiple times, so I… I want to let everybody else give their impressions first.
• 4:02
  Matt: I would totally buy baby formula from Alana, and I don't even have kids that age.
• 4:09
  Matt: Just sayin'.
• 4:12
  Matt: With or without a medallion, I don't care, I'm like, I'm cool, let's do it.
• 4:19
  Larry Woods: Well, I had a question for you, Matt, because you said that this volume
• 4:23
  Larry Woods: Made you more sad than the previous one.
• 4:27
  Matt: Yes, the ending.
• 4:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yes. Okay.
• 4:29
  Tad Eggleston: The end is…
• 4:32
  Larry Woods: So, the end is rough, but I guess…
• 4:37
  Larry Woods: What about it, for you, was more saddening about this volume than the previous one?
• 4:42
  Matt: So… the quote-unquote relationship that I had with Marco, and watching him die.
• 4:52
  Matt: was nothing compared to how Hazel felt at the end of this one, when she realizes it's all gone.
• 5:02
  Matt: You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh!
• 5:04
  Matt: And her whole world just crumbles and crashes down, and you can see it on her face, and this is why I love Fiona Staples. It's like, ugh!
• 5:14
  Matt: Total devastation.
• 5:18
  Matt: And her mother gets it, but there's nothing she can do.
• 5:23
  Josh Eiserike: I had a professor, a writing professor, shout out to Todd Robinson, who I know is not listening, but he was awesome. Go watch his movies, they're great.
• 5:32
  Tad Eggleston: Send him a link.
• 5:35
  Josh Eiserike: I had a writing professor who, talking about writing grief, I don't know if this is my story to share, but I'll share it anyway, talked about when he was a kid, his grandma died, and he was like, oh, that's sad.
• 5:47
  Josh Eiserike: And then, like, months later, his dog died, and it devastated him, and he didn't realize until years and years later, with the emotional maturity, that when his dog died, he was actually mourning his grandma. And I think…
• 6:00
  Josh Eiserike: That moment didn't hit me as sad.
• 6:05
  Josh Eiserike: in Saga, because it's like, oh, now she's finally able to grieve her father, and start the process of moving on. So yes, it is a sad moment, but it didn't… it didn't gut me the same way it gutted you, Matt.
• 6:23
  Matt: That's valid.
• 6:25
  Larry Woods: Yeah, cause, like.
• 6:26
  Larry Woods: my initial knee-jerk reaction was, like, what are you talking about? It wasn't, like, this was more sad. It's like, Marco died, like, what the hell? But even reflecting back on it, and…
• 6:41
  Larry Woods: re-reading it.
• 6:43
  Larry Woods: Marco was… it was a shock.
• 6:46
  Larry Woods: Right? So, for me, it was much more like, I just ran into a brick wall that I didn't know was there.
• 6:53
  Larry Woods: This one, even in the… the last, like, 3 or 4 pages, where you see… their house burning.
• 7:02
  Larry Woods: And then you have a flashback.
• 7:04
  Larry Woods: And we're back to house burning.
• 7:08
  Larry Woods: And I was like…
• 7:09
  Matt: It's… it's… it's like I… when I said my relationship with Marco.
• 7:15
  Matt: you also have a relationship with Hazel, and you've watched her mature, and she has not felt anything or given any sign of emotion, and now all of a sudden, it all comes out.
• 7:28
  Matt: It was like,
• 7:31
  Matt: So it was harder for me than watching Marco die.
• 7:38
  Larry Woods: No, 100%, and I'm thinking about it now, too, is… this may sound kind of like…
• 7:44
  Larry Woods: I'll throw it out there. But the relationship that we had with their home, as well.
• 7:50
  Larry Woods: It's…
• 7:52
  Larry Woods: again, it was her home for how long? How many years? And now that's kind of gone, and the last memories of her father being in the…
• 8:00
  Marisol: And not only was it just their home, like, it was a living thing, too.
• 8:06
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, you had the Hazel sneaking back in by a window that the rocket ship made for her.
• 8:14
  Tad Eggleston: Earlier in this, making it clear that they actually have a human… relationship.
• 8:27
  Larry Woods: So, yeah, reflecting back on it, I would… actually, I would 100% agree with you. I was more sad. I was shocked with the passing of Marco.
• 8:37
  Larry Woods: I was more saddened.
• 8:40
  Larry Woods: Because it was a loss of a relationship.
• 8:44
  Larry Woods: And I'm reflecting back, like, I remember Coco, if you've watched the movie Coco, where it's not just the person that
• 8:51
  Larry Woods: there's two deaths, the actual physical passing, and then there's the passing of memory, where you no longer remember them. So, like, to me, it was that, the relationship with the ship, the relationship with the father, and yeah, just the…
• 9:06
  Larry Woods: emotional breakdown.
• 9:08
  Larry Woods: Which was like, yeah, no, that's valid.
• 9:11
  Larry Woods: I was definitely more sad on this go-around.
• 9:15
  Matt: That ship was Hazel's whole world, and all of her memories.
• 9:20
  Matt: And it was just… Destroyed. Gone. In an instant.
• 9:29
  Larry Woods: And it goes back to kind of what you were saying, Josh, about
• 9:32
  Larry Woods: The, the passing of the grandmother, and then the passing of the dog.
• 9:37
  Larry Woods: the stage is grief, right? It's all about denial, and then…
• 9:41
  Larry Woods: And then, when it happens again, it's… all those anxieties, emotions, nerves, whatever it may be, compounds and it comes out, right?
• 9:50
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 9:52
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 9:55
  Larry Woods: Damn, talk about the expression of the human emotion from a wood rocket ship.
• 10:01
  Josh Eiserike: Right.
• 10:02
  Larry Woods: Living like a chip.
• 10:13
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 10:14
  Larry Woods: One thing I like, too, about,
• 10:17
  Larry Woods: Oh my god, Alana's, I forgot her name for a second. Alana's, Progression 2 is…
• 10:23
  Matt: Oh, to blow…
• 10:24
  Larry Woods: Oh.
• 10:26
  Larry Woods: Y-yuh?
• 10:28
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 10:28
  Matt: I'm kidding.
• 10:29
  Larry Woods: of… No, you're kidding.
• 10:31
  Larry Woods: Especially this, aspect of, like.
• 10:36
  Larry Woods: kind of, like, un… kind of unbeknownst to her, I believe, is the,
• 10:41
  Larry Woods: Single motherhood, finding her space, finding social support, right?
• 10:46
  Larry Woods: And even trying to find this newfound purpose. We're smugglers! We're drug dealers.
• 10:53
  Matt: Don't use this gap.
• 10:54
  Marisol: It's like.
• 10:58
  Larry Woods: What we do to find what we're good at.
• 11:01
  Larry Woods: So, yeah, for me, and so I don't want to take up too much of the talking space here, but at least with her, her journey has… in this one was the most interesting to me of what I've read so far, because it really shows a mother, a single mother.
• 11:21
  Larry Woods: even a single adopted mother with the squire, as well, is…
• 11:26
  Larry Woods: Trying to find or re-find her place in the world after she, in some ways, lost her world.
• 11:32
  Matt: Yeah, but do it… but trying to go legit as well. She could just stay a drug dealer, right?
• 11:39
  Matt: But she wants to be legit for her kids, and I'm like, that's awesome.
• 11:43
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 11:44
  Larry Woods: So, yeah, that was… that was a highlight for me, if I just tried to bring it up on a… on a positive note.
• 11:52
  Matt: Yeah, agreed, for sure.
• 11:56
  Josh Eiserike: There's a line in here that I'm looking for about Alana, I'm trying to find it, but something Hazel says in the narration…
• 12:03
  Josh Eiserike: leads me to believe Alana's not making it out of this.
• 12:07
  Josh Eiserike: Either.
• 12:10
  Matt: None of us do, so I'm not sure.
• 12:11
  Josh Eiserike: Sure.
• 12:13
  Larry Woods: You dare?
• 12:17
  Larry Woods: You had to put it out there, didn't you?
• 12:25
  Larry Woods: Now I'm curious, because you already… you already put it in my head.
• 12:30
  Larry Woods: About, like, the saga and what's gonna happen.
• 12:32
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I'm trying to find it. There was something in there. This isn't it, but I like, when she's playing guitar, she says, the older I get, the closer to him I feel.
• 12:43
  Josh Eiserike: No matter how many light years my family traveled, Dad was never that far away.
• 12:48
  Josh Eiserike: What was it?
• 12:53
  Josh Eiserike: Oh, here it is. This is in… What chapter is this?
• 12:59
  Josh Eiserike: 58.
• 13:02
  Josh Eiserike: There's a… there's a panel of Alana, and the narration says, a lot of creators hope their work outlives them, but that's not some… but that's something… that's not something any of us can control.
• 13:15
  Josh Eiserike: And I'm like, yeah.
• 13:18
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 13:23
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, unfortunately, probably, yeah, But fuck you for noticing that.
• 13:32
  Marisol: How dare you call attention to that?
• 13:35
  Matt: Could you have just said…
• 13:35
  Marisol: Battling.
• 13:36
  Matt: Whaler alert?
• 13:38
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I mean, this is… this is all speculative, so…
• 13:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it is special.
• 13:41
  Matt: I'll give you a little spoiler alert.
• 13:43
  Josh Eiserike: what I said before.
• 13:44
  Josh Eiserike: Before we started recording, this is, this is when I dropped off, like, and in fact, like, I… the moment I dropped off was the end of 57.
• 13:54
  Josh Eiserike: Like, I remember that, what is that guy, Bombazine, the koala Man? .
• 13:59
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 14:00
  Josh Eiserike: like, where he says, copy that, which is such a great cliffhanger, because it's got, like, the double meaning. And then I start reading 58, and I'm like, oh, I don't remember this at all.
• 14:10
  Josh Eiserike: So, from here on out, this is all new for me.
• 14:19
  Tad Eggleston: Now.
• 14:22
  Larry Woods: Interesting.
• 14:26
  Larry Woods: So, remind me again, why did you stop?
• 14:30
  Josh Eiserike: Life.
• 14:31
  Josh Eiserike: Like, I just…
• 14:32
  Larry Woods: Yeah, that's true.
• 14:34
  Josh Eiserike: I have a stack of comics.
• 14:36
  Josh Eiserike: I… I get to them when I can, and I just… I just kind of forgot.
• 14:41
  Josh Eiserike: And then I was like, oh, I need to sit down, and I was like, I don't remember what happened, I need to sit down and catch up, I don't know when the next issue's coming out, do I have them all? Like, I love my comic book store, but there's been a couple times I've missed an issue, you know, fine, no big deal. And then this podcast started.
• 14:57
  Tad Eggleston: Missing an issue with Saga is a big deal.
• 15:00
  Josh Eiserike: Well, and then the podcast started, so I was like, great, now I have no excuses, I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna reread everything, and it's gonna be awesome.
• 15:12
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, there are certain things that I… that I… that I fall into that…
• 15:17
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Missed an issue, no big deal.
• 15:19
  Tad Eggleston: But, Lee, since you pull my comics right now, Saga is not one of them.
• 15:26
  Larry Woods: Oh, anybody that gets Saga, that pulls Saga…
• 15:30
  Tad Eggleston: Fucking jump over the counter and brain you.
• 15:33
  Larry Woods: Well, we have a sign! No, Saga, I will strong-arm Edgar into making sure we have
• 15:41
  Larry Woods: The saga on the shelves.
• 15:44
  Larry Woods: And in the polls.
• 15:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, as soon as we have, like, significant bookshelves, I'll be…
• 15:49
  Tad Eggleston: strong-arming him to, you know, we should have, like, 10 copies of Volume 1,
• 15:55
  Tad Eggleston: And 3 copies of every other volume on… on hand it.
• 16:00
  Tad Eggleston: all times.
• 16:03
  Tad Eggleston: Cause that's… that's legitimately, like…
• 16:11
  Tad Eggleston: Numbers that are, are, are completely doable on a weekend.
• 16:16
  Larry Woods: Oh, yeah.
• 16:19
  Larry Woods: And…
• 16:21
  Larry Woods: That's, like, my number one go-to recommendation. Somebody's like, hey, I actually just had it the other day. He's like, hey, what's an independent book that you would recommend?
• 16:29
  Larry Woods: That's like your trade format, saga.
• 16:32
  Larry Woods: What's it about? Boy, let me tell you. And, he's like, oh, I'm just thinking about it. I'm like, alright, consider it. Seriously. Now's the time to catch up.
• 16:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's coming back, I think.
• 16:45
  Tad Eggleston: Late summer?
• 16:47
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like is…
• 16:48
  Marisol: Oh, nice.
• 16:50
  Tad Eggleston: that I've been hearing.
• 16:53
  Tad Eggleston: So… Yeah… I love Hazel in this volume.
• 17:01
  Tad Eggleston: I love…
• 17:02
  Matt: Doesn't.
• 17:02
  Tad Eggleston: Negative music… I love her.
• 17:09
  Tad Eggleston: being rebellious.
• 17:17
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, like… I was saying, off-air, like…
• 17:26
  Tad Eggleston: Re-reading this, it's like, okay, yeah, this is so what…
• 17:31
  Tad Eggleston: And yes, there's still sadness, and yes, there's still, like, a long way to go.
• 17:38
  Tad Eggleston: But the fact that Hazel's still discovering new things, the fact that
• 17:47
  Tad Eggleston: Like, Squire's going through shit.
• 17:49
  Matt: Big time.
• 17:51
  Marisol: He's just…
• 17:51
  Tad Eggleston: find joy… In… in Hazel and Music.
• 17:56
  Tad Eggleston: an alarm.
• 17:57
  Matt: Well, he hopes to find joy in his.
• 18:00
  Tad Eggleston: And Alana has… like… Completely adopted him. Not, like, taken him off.
• 18:08
  Marisol: And I love that.
• 18:09
  Tad Eggleston: like…
• 18:12
  Marisol: I love that for Squire.
• 18:16
  Josh Eiserike: I… I loved the Chuck E. Cheese, they… they go through that one.
• 18:21
  Marisol: Right?
• 18:24
  Tad Eggleston: this.
• 18:25
  Matt: Yeah, I wanna play the sock puppet game.
• 18:27
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, like, I… as a kid, Chuck E. Cheese was the greatest. As an adult, it's the worst.
• 18:33
  Matt: Yo.
• 18:34
  Josh Eiserike: But I… I love just, like, the joy of reading it, and those kids, and, like, how much fun they're having there, and that they're able to emotionally connect with, you know, the sock puppet game, or whatever.
• 18:46
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 18:51
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I just… Well, and I just… I love music and comics, and he nails it.
• 18:59
  Josh Eiserike: Yup.
• 19:00
  Tad Eggleston: I love that music has been introduced to Saga and, like, hard.
• 19:06
  Tad Eggleston: Not, not, not like it just slid in, it's like…
• 19:13
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, in-in.
• 19:17
  Tad Eggleston: It went from being something that you barely knew that it was in the universe of Saga to… it's the center of Hazel's universe.
• 19:26
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 19:27
  Tad Eggleston: Fiona draws it brilliantly.
• 19:34
  Tad Eggleston: Of course.
• 19:41
  Josh Eiserike: I also love that the instruments, like, some are, like, completely recognizable, and some are like, well, I've never seen that before, but it looks like it makes sense in this world, so I'm gonna go…
• 19:50
  Matt: It looks legit.
• 19:51
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I love that it's one of the recognizable ones that Hazel doesn't know.
• 19:55
  Josh Eiserike: Yes.
• 19:55
  Tad Eggleston: Of course.
• 20:00
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I teased last time that it was page 38.
• 20:06
  Tad Eggleston: is when I knew that I would never, ever, EVER… Forgive the will?
• 20:15
  Tad Eggleston: Again?
• 20:18
  Marisol: Which page is that?
• 20:19
  Matt: squared?
• 20:28
  Matt: When he takes the skull to Gwendolyn? Yeah.
• 20:31
  Marisol: Whoa.
• 20:31
  Tad Eggleston: Not when he takes the skull to Gwendolyn.
• 20:36
  Josh Eiserike: What he does after?
• 20:39
  Matt: the skull to the… With the skull.
• 20:41
  Tad Eggleston: there. It's like, here, let me…
• 20:45
  Marisol: Some extra disrespect.
• 20:47
  Tad Eggleston: This panel just…
• 20:50
  Matt: This skull really does not give any shits.
• 20:54
  Josh Eiserike: I'm still Steam Will. I'm Steam Team. He has gotten his life back together, he's doing great.
• 21:00
  Matt: Yep, agreed. And he's like, you know what, and I'm gonna bang this hot chick.
• 21:03
  Larry Woods: You know, Josh, I… I respect that you're dying on this hill.
• 21:15
  Tad Eggleston: I want Will to die an incredibly slow and painful death.
• 21:22
  Matt: He probably will.
• 21:25
  Josh Eiserike: Oh, for sure.
• 21:28
  Marisol: It's a matter of when at this point, not if, honestly.
• 21:32
  Matt: he's lasted longer than characters I thought were gonna last longer.
• 21:36
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 21:39
  Larry Woods: Me and Life is Marco?
• 21:42
  Matt: Prince Robot, yeah?
• 21:48
  Tad Eggleston: Any, any predictions on, what the thing with, uncle… Uncle Bum…
• 21:59
  Josh Eiserike: Bombazole? Bombazier.
• 22:01
  Tad Eggleston: Magazine.
• 22:03
  Tad Eggleston: is, cause I don't think his story's over.
• 22:06
  Josh Eiserike: Well.
• 22:06
  Matt: Well, clearly not.
• 22:07
  Marisol: Nope.
• 22:08
  Josh Eiserike: This was the one thing that didn't work for me.
• 22:11
  Josh Eiserike: Really in this whole series so far.
• 22:19
  Marisol: Nope.
• 22:20
  Josh Eiserike: Well, first of all, like, what I like, like, he totally gives me, like, Treasure Planet, Long John Silver vibes.
• 22:27
  Marisol: Yes.
• 22:28
  Josh Eiserike: Which I'm super excited.
• 22:29
  Marisol: be it.
• 22:31
  Josh Eiserike: Which, but, like, koala, instead of, like, I don't know what animal Long John Silver was in that movie, but, like, yeah, but, like, he's got the cleaver, so he's, like, the space cook, or…
• 22:40
  Josh Eiserike: Whatever, like…
• 22:41
  Josh Eiserike: Interesting character, but we don't know enough about him, other than he and Alana have some sort of… arrangement…
• 22:49
  Matt: relationship.
• 22:51
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, it's lasted 18 months, that's just what we're told.
• 22:55
  Josh Eiserike: And he clearly has something in his past, but then he leaves before, you know, I can care about him. So when he leaves, I don't care.
• 23:04
  Josh Eiserike: Because I'm not a…
• 23:05
  Matt: You're supposed to care, because you're supposed to care, because you're like, oh, Alana saw something good in him. So, why all of a sudden is he leaving?
• 23:14
  Josh Eiserike: But I don't know… but I don't.
• 23:16
  Tad Eggleston: I'm actually…
• 23:17
  Josh Eiserike: about him.
• 23:17
  Tad Eggleston: I don't disagree that… I don't care.
• 23:23
  Tad Eggleston: For that matter, I'll take it a step further, like, given the vibe between him and Skip.
• 23:32
  Tad Eggleston: I'm actually kinda happy.
• 23:35
  Tad Eggleston: Because I'm praying that whatever is in his past, whatever he's about to do for Skip, has nothing to do with Alana, Hazel, and Squire.
• 23:47
  Matt: Yes, and it's nefarious. Probably not, yeah. And…
• 23:50
  Tad Eggleston: But at the same time, there's enough there…
• 23:54
  Tad Eggleston: that I don't think it's an accident, I don't think it's gonna be something that happens off-screen. We're gonna see him again, and I don't know which side he's gonna be on.
• 24:04
  Matt: one-eyed koala… or one-armed Koala man is coming back, absolutely.
• 24:07
  Josh Eiserike: I wouldn't…
• 24:08
  Marisol: Oh, yeah. He has.
• 24:09
  Josh Eiserike: But I just… I just… again, like, I don't think his leaving was this big emotional moment that I think it was meant to be. Like, it just kind of fell flat for me.
• 24:18
  Matt: It's because… it's because he was only in 2 or 3 issues.
• 24:22
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I guess I didn't even feel like it was supposed to be an emotional moment.
• 24:27
  Matt: Oh, no, it was supposed to be.
• 24:29
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Josh Eiserike: I think so. I thought so.
• 24:32
  Matt: that's why him and Alana have words at the end, and he says mean things.
• 24:39
  Josh Eiserike: Like, I… I love the, like, Hazel explaining their shorthand with each other, and then that cliffhanger where he's like, copy that, and I'm like, oh, this… this guy's…
• 24:49
  Josh Eiserike: this guy's got something in his past, I need to know more, like, I'm interested in this character, and then he leaves, and he's gone, and I'm just like, well, but I didn't get to like him, I just… he just introduced a mystery.
• 25:00
  Josh Eiserike: And then, now he's gone.
• 25:03
  Marisol: But I need to know more!
• 25:04
  Matt: intriguing.
• 25:05
  Josh Eiserike: We're gonna see him again.
• 25:05
  Matt: Super launched it.
• 25:07
  Marisol: We better see him again. I need to know more about Bombay.
• 25:10
  Matt: God, if we don't, that would be the funniest fucking cliffhanger in comic book history.
• 25:16
  Marisol: Don't be pissed.
• 25:19
  Matt: Brian K. Vaughan would hate.
• 25:21
  Tad Eggleston: Fiona drew him for, like, 3 issues and said, Brian, I really hate this guy, he's a pain in the neck, can you just write him out?
• 25:29
  Matt: I think I'm gonna go with Skip, and that's storyline ends.
• 25:33
  Matt: It'd be hilarious!
• 25:36
  Josh Eiserike: That was a great page you just showed.
• 25:38
  Tad Eggleston: that the…
• 25:39
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Marisol: Yay.
• 25:42
  Matt: We know what his, Pornhub search bar says. Step sister.
• 25:47
  Marisol: Oh, lord.
• 25:51
  Larry Woods: You said the inside thought out loud.
• 25:52
  Tad Eggleston: argument he makes.
• 25:54
  Tad Eggleston: when they're… you know, before they… when they finally talk about it, I like the argument he makes, you know.
• 26:01
  Tad Eggleston: Your parents weren't supposed to get together either. Yum.
• 26:05
  Matt: That was not supposed to work, yeah?
• 26:09
  Marisol: Absolutely!
• 26:10
  Josh Eiserike: Have they seen Clueless?
• 26:13
  Josh Eiserike: To the end.
• 26:14
  Tad Eggleston: name?
• 26:15
  Josh Eiserike: The Alicia Silverstone movie from 19… was it 95?
• 26:18
  Tad Eggleston: I've seen it, so, I mean, I could totally see… that's… that's what's gonna happen, is… is Squire's gonna find that and show it to…
• 26:26
  Josh Eiserike: Yes.
• 26:27
  Tad Eggleston: Show it to… to… to Hazel, and…
• 26:31
  Josh Eiserike: And then she's gonna be, but you're not Paul Rudd.
• 26:36
  Marisol: Dang.
• 26:41
  Tad Eggleston: How about the… this,
• 26:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, two things. First, the turn with, agent Gale…
• 26:52
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 26:56
  Matt: Is it just me, or does this trade have the most sex in it so far?
• 27:02
  Marisol: Go!
• 27:03
  Tad Eggleston: the most…
• 27:04
  Matt: It was just very prominent, though. I was like, oh…
• 27:08
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think it has the most non…
• 27:12
  Tad Eggleston: Marco Alana, and I think it has the most prominent male genitalia.
• 27:17
  Matt: Lots of dong in this issue.
• 27:19
  Marisol: Yes.
• 27:20
  Matt: I feel like Corbyn drew this issue.
• 27:23
  Tad Eggleston: I was about to say, I think, I think maybe Fiona was, was going through Den…
• 27:31
  Matt: Oh, that's awesome!
• 27:36
  Larry Woods: I'm not gonna analyze this.
• 27:43
  Tad Eggleston: So, Lee, what does it say that we're seeing more… and use your best Freud voice to talk about the penises.
• 27:52
  Matt: Lay back on my cup. I'm plentiful.
• 27:54
  Marisol: they are.
• 28:00
  Matt: Some are growers, some are showers.
• 28:08
  Tad Eggleston: This broke my heart.
• 28:11
  Josh Eiserike: Yup.
• 28:12
  Tad Eggleston: It's like.
• 28:12
  Marisol: No, no.
• 28:13
  Tad Eggleston: No, you don't have to just go kill the kid in Alana. You need to kill everybody.
• 28:19
  Matt: I feel bad that the report of the photographer had to die last TP.
• 28:24
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 28:24
  Matt: come back.
• 28:25
  Marisol: Right?
• 28:42
  Tad Eggleston: The fish guy.
• 28:46
  Matt: I love how he obliterates the skull.
• 28:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 28:50
  Matt: Because now that is no longer a pawn, Marco has been, like, vindicated.
• 28:56
  Tad Eggleston: Nobody can fuck in front of the skull anymore.
• 28:59
  Matt: Yup.
• 29:02
  Matt: Unless it's the pirate ship, Skull.
• 29:06
  Matt: In which case.
• 29:07
  Marisol: That's cool.
• 29:08
  Matt: You're doing the whole Titanic out on the boat.
• 29:12
  Tad Eggleston: I love the photo booth cover of Chapter 60.
• 29:18
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah…
• 29:19
  Matt: That's cute.
• 29:24
  Tad Eggleston: It's just absolutely adorable.
• 29:27
  Matt: I like the goldfish cover a little bit more, but that's okay.
• 29:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Tad Eggleston: But I also adore the… how much of an utter badass…
• 29:37
  Tad Eggleston: Mark… I mean, Marco's mom's always been a badass, but, like, she's… she's gone up a notch.
• 29:43
  Matt: Prison meet her hard.
• 29:45
  Tad Eggleston: And apparently, like, she runs the prison.
• 29:48
  Matt: Yep.
• 29:49
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I love the…
• 29:51
  Matt: finished watching Orange is the New Black, so I have a different understanding of that.
• 29:56
  Josh Eiserike: Right.
• 29:57
  Matt: Segment after watching that show.
• 30:01
  Josh Eiserike: I'm surprised you made it through the last couple of seasons.
• 30:04
  Matt: Ugh, my wife was done with it, but I was like, nope, gotta see this through.
• 30:07
  Josh Eiserike: Had to see it through! I was the same way.
• 30:10
  Matt: Because there's lesbian movies.
• 30:13
  Matt: I'm kidding.
• 30:15
  Marisol: Makes it all worth it.
• 30:16
  Matt: That's right, that's right.
• 30:28
  Marisol: I just love that we get to see Marco's mom again, after so long.
• 30:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Matt: Oh, yeah, we… I'd written.
• 30:33
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I'm certain that we're not done with her. I mean, the way we saw her.
• 30:36
  Marisol: Oh, for sure.
• 30:37
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I was surprised.
• 30:40
  Josh Eiserike: And to that, you know, to the page we looked at earlier with the other characters, like, I like how that's a subtle reminder that, oh yeah, no, we're not done with any of these threads.
• 30:51
  Josh Eiserike: Which is nice.
• 30:57
  Tad Eggleston: Chuck E. Cheese is just great.
• 30:59
  Matt: How would child… How do you pronounce the, the tranny's name?
• 31:05
  Tad Eggleston: I can't remember.
• 31:06
  Josh Eiserike: Petracors?
• 31:08
  Tad Eggleston: Hunter core, yeah.
• 31:09
  Matt: Petracorp. I really will be interested to see
• 31:14
  Matt: what situation Petracor is in when…
• 31:19
  Matt: we finally catch up with him. Her, her, sorry.
• 31:25
  Josh Eiserike: Go back to the image of that Chuck E. Cheese.
• 31:28
  Josh Eiserike: The, the exterior?
• 31:30
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, that's… I mean, this is probably any Chuck E. Cheese, but that's the Burbank Chuck E. Cheese.
• 31:37
  Tad Eggleston: Douglas L.
• 31:38
  Tad Eggleston: Zips, zip.
• 31:39
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I'm just looking at, like, the, the…
• 31:42
  Josh Eiserike: Like, I wonder if he got… because he lives in Sherman Oaks, which is, like, 20 minutes away. I'm wondering if he got in his car, drove over to Burbank, snapped a picture, sent it to Fiona.
• 31:52
  Tad Eggleston: That seems reasonable.
• 31:54
  Matt: or Google Street View.
• 31:57
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Josh Eiserike: That would be more logical.
• 32:01
  Tad Eggleston: Either one seems completely reasonable.
• 32:04
  Josh Eiserike: And of course, there's probably dozens of Chuck E. Cheese's strip mall and strip malls.
• 32:08
  Tad Eggleston: He might not have gotten…
• 32:09
  Tad Eggleston: up and driven over, he might have thought he had his kids there for the birthday party, you know?
• 32:15
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 32:16
  Tad Eggleston: Took a picture and said that.
• 32:19
  Matt: No plot.
• 32:19
  Josh Eiserike: Yes.
• 32:20
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 32:24
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 32:24
  Tad Eggleston: remembered.
• 32:25
  Josh Eiserike: It's that birthday party there.
• 32:26
  Tad Eggleston: This child is about the same age as Saga.
• 32:32
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I… I… when my kids have birthday parties there, I'm like, no, I'm not. Absolutely not.
• 32:41
  Larry Woods: I'm not gonna lie, like, it's… I definitely was a Chuck E. Cheese kid growing up.
• 32:46
  Josh Eiserike: Oh, I loved it!
• 32:46
  Larry Woods: But… My god, they changed the thing, and the retinol is just… it's weird.
• 32:54
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 32:55
  Tad Eggleston: I was always… I,
• 32:59
  Tad Eggleston: We actually had a showbiz, so I was a showbiz kid that, like, when Chuck E. Cheese bought out showbiz, I missed…
• 33:09
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't like the new band, I liked the old band…
• 33:12
  Larry Woods: Hmm.
• 33:13
  Tad Eggleston: No, they're all animatronic, but… But the bear was cooler than the rat.
• 33:19
  Larry Woods: Hmm.
• 33:22
  Larry Woods: They can see that.
• 33:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I love this panel here, the horns Plus.
• 33:30
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Matt: But that's, like, dude… OPSEC! Don't be showing that where anyone can see it.
• 33:39
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah.
• 33:40
  Josh Eiserike: True.
• 33:40
  Tad Eggleston: That's exactly what she said. Put your colors away! Dummy!
• 33:43
  Matt: Come on!
• 33:51
  Tad Eggleston: Also, am I the only one that thought it was air hockey until they got.
• 33:56
  Josh Eiserike: Oh, I thought it was air hot, too.
• 33:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Matt: what else would it be?
• 34:02
  Marisol: Clearly…
• 34:02
  Tad Eggleston: token.
• 34:03
  Matt: It doesn't give out in seconds.
• 34:15
  Marisol: Funky little puppets.
• 34:19
  Larry Woods: Good point.
• 34:19
  Josh Eiserike: I love Squire's expression in that panel there. Just, like, the way he's cocking his head.
• 34:24
  Matt: That's crazy.
• 34:25
  Josh Eiserike: It's great. Like, the body language tells you everything you need to know.
• 34:29
  Matt: For the wreck.
• 34:30
  Tad Eggleston: I ended up beating him 9-3.
• 34:33
  Larry Woods: Yup.
• 34:35
  Larry Woods: And you can tell, like, that is… he is his father's son.
• 34:40
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I also love that,
• 34:43
  Tad Eggleston: I love him, like, walking with his sword here. Like, his screen is their flashlight. He looks so happy.
• 34:55
  Tad Eggleston: And that just doesn't…
• 34:56
  Marisol: deserves it.
• 34:58
  Marisol: He deserves to be happy.
• 35:01
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, happy, happy, happy fall.
• 35:09
  Matt: Well, if you don't write characters that people will like, and then do bad things to them, you'll not… you're not a good writer, so…
• 35:19
  Marisol: Clearly, the whole point of writing is to torture your characters. What else is?
• 35:22
  Matt: Your characters and your readers at the same time.
• 35:25
  Tad Eggleston: And I just, like, like, the, the matter-of-fact last line, And then we were homeless.
• 35:33
  Matt: Yep.
• 35:34
  Josh Eiserike: Yup.
• 35:35
  Matt: Mmm…
• 35:36
  Marisol: Ugh.
• 35:37
  Matt: Quick question, did anyone feel bad for King Robot?
• 35:42
  Tad Eggleston: Little…
• 35:43
  Matt: I didn't!
• 35:45
  Marisol: Not really.
• 35:46
  Matt: He's a dick, Prince Robot was a dick, so I'm like, okay, dick's…
• 35:50
  Tad Eggleston: No, I… the way I felt bad for him is…
• 35:53
  Matt: He's the rich!
• 35:55
  Tad Eggleston: I, I feel like he… Was regretting the way he treated his son.
• 36:03
  Matt: Oh, amazing.
• 36:04
  Marisol: Sure.
• 36:06
  Matt: Did anyone catch.
• 36:07
  Tad Eggleston: And as somebody who's occasionally not been the father that I wanted to be, I, I, I, like, I relate to that.
• 36:13
  Matt: Yeah, I can see it.
• 36:16
  Marisol: My only question with King Robot is how he does his whole disappear and reappearing act. He's just kinda…
• 36:22
  Marisol: glitches into existence.
• 36:25
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I was a little confused.
• 36:33
  Tad Eggleston: I assume that.
• 36:34
  Matt: I caught you up.
• 36:35
  Tad Eggleston: projection.
• 36:39
  Marisol: You think?
• 36:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 36:44
  Matt: Did anybody catch the line, you speak above your channel, woman, instead of station? I love that.
• 36:51
  Matt: That's just such a subtle, yet… profound statement.
• 36:57
  Larry Woods: lover.
• 36:58
  Matt: Yes, very clever. I thought it was very clever.
• 37:01
  Tad Eggleston: Thoughts… thoughts on the message that he was sent?
• 37:07
  Matt: Yeah, I don't get that.
• 37:10
  Matt: It did not make sense to me.
• 37:13
  Tad Eggleston: Like, I don't remember exactly, but I remember certain things, so I don't want to make any comments.
• 37:19
  Larry Woods: Okay.
• 37:20
  Matt: Do you think you might be remembering something that's farther ahead?
• 37:23
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, I do remember some things that are farther ahead, is what I'm saying. So, like, I have an idea of, like, what was meant there.
• 37:33
  Tad Eggleston: So I don't wanna get into it… Specifically.
• 37:42
  Matt: Can I just have one image there.
• 37:45
  Matt: for Alana, that the drug deal went well. Like, it could have gone so horribly wrong. Oh, yeah.
• 37:51
  Tad Eggleston: I was so weird.
• 37:54
  Tad Eggleston: Ugh.
• 37:57
  Tad Eggleston: That was, like, the most tense sequence of Saga. It's like, no. No, no, no, she can't lose two parents this fast.
• 38:05
  Tad Eggleston: Cool the koala guy looks.
• 38:09
  Matt: Exactly. And it could just go smooth. I'm like, that would never happen, ever. Yeah.
• 38:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I was waiting for the shoe to drop.
• 38:22
  Tad Eggleston: Right up until they left.
• 38:24
  Matt: Yup!
• 38:25
  Matt: I'm like, she's gonna get shot, she's gonna get taken.
• 38:28
  Tad Eggleston: But then… On another level, it was like the head fake for losing the ship.
• 38:36
  Matt: Exactly.
• 38:37
  Josh Eiserike: the next stop.
• 38:39
  Matt: Exactly.
• 38:43
  Tad Eggleston: You go legit, you have a party, and then…
• 38:48
  Marisol: disaster.
• 38:49
  Matt: Put you on the deck.
• 38:57
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 38:57
  Larry Woods: No.
• 38:58
  Tad Eggleston: This is what I was, this is what I was… I was… I was referring to here.
• 39:04
  Tad Eggleston: And I want, I want, you know.
• 39:07
  Marisol: Sometimes we'll happen.
• 39:07
  Tad Eggleston: ask our kids to make predictions about what will come next.
• 39:16
  Tad Eggleston: you know, it's, beats me, but I'm supposed to deliver this message with it. Wishing you a peaceful anniversary.
• 39:27
  Tad Eggleston: But the Robot Jubilee isn't for months. The hell kind of thinly veiled threat is that?
• 39:33
  Tad Eggleston: It's alright, X.
• 39:34
  Matt: M.
• 39:35
  Tad Eggleston: Tell your employers that their transmission was… well received.
• 39:40
  Matt: Saved.
• 39:41
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes a little backstory is all it takes to change the course of history.
• 39:49
  Matt: Yeah, what anniversary?
• 39:52
  Tad Eggleston: What backstory?
• 39:53
  Matt: Yeah.
• 39:54
  Marisol: Maybe have some kind of deal?
• 39:56
  Marisol: That we find out about further down the road?
• 40:01
  Marisol: Excess Monday.
• 40:03
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I don't know what to make of this.
• 40:06
  Josh Eiserike: And until you brought it up, Ted, I didn't even remember it.
• 40:11
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I'll admit that, like, remembering a little bit of what it means is why I really caught it. I don't know if it, like, sunk in.
• 40:22
  Tad Eggleston: But that's when the teacher in me kicks in, like, it's…
• 40:26
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean, you don't always notice it when you're a kid, but almost any time where teachers ask you to make predictions, it's because there's been foreshadowing.
• 40:37
  Matt: Right.
• 40:43
  Tad Eggleston: You know, it's not this… this accidental, oh, let's just choose today to make predictions. It's like, oh.
• 40:51
  Tad Eggleston: Something happened in your reading today.
• 40:54
  Josh Eiserike: Right.
• 40:57
  Tad Eggleston: That… that you could extrapolate from.
• 41:00
  Josh Eiserike: Right.
• 41:09
  Marisol: Well, I'm thinking there has to be some kind of…
• 41:13
  Marisol: There has to be some kind of agreement or deal between… the robot kingdom, and wreath.
• 41:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 41:25
  Marisol: And I just feel like it's a little… at least to me, it came up a little more suspicious, too, because Gwendolyn has come up higher on their counsel.
• 41:37
  Tad Eggleston: Well, Gwendolyn's pretty clearly the one that came up with this. I think there's actually…
• 41:42
  Tad Eggleston: foreshadowing of this back with Gwendolyn, because it… oh, yeah.
• 41:48
  Marisol: Oh, yeah, because she tells a little bit.
• 41:50
  Tad Eggleston: You're an assh.
• 41:50
  Marisol: I saved her career.
• 41:51
  Tad Eggleston: and it's gonna get us both killed. No, this is careful and methodical political maneuver that will save your neck and quite possibly my entire moon.
• 42:05
  Tad Eggleston: Just look his majesty in the eye, stick to the script, you've had a week-long journey to rehearse, and oh, try not to accidentally let it slip that you assassinated his son.
• 42:16
  Josh Eiserike: Right.
• 42:19
  Marisol: I love that comment afterwards from him. Assassinate is a loaded term, Gwen.
• 42:30
  Marisol: This we'll probably get to see.
• 42:34
  Marisol: A little later, if the deal is with that.
• 42:37
  Tad Eggleston: I think this is gonna be a next volume thing. Again, I can't remember, because the next two volumes, I haven't read in their volume form at all. I've only read the single issues.
• 42:51
  Marisol: So…
• 42:53
  Matt: this is right around where I stopped reading, because I missed a couple of issues, and I was like, I'm not going back in floppies, blah blah blah. So, everything I'm reading now is fresh, for me.
• 43:06
  Josh Eiserike: And there's only… at the time we're recording this, there's only 2 more volumes, yeah?
• 43:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 43:12
  Josh Eiserike: Oh, wow.
• 43:13
  Marisol: I know!
• 43:16
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 43:17
  Tad Eggleston: Two more volumes, and then we'll have to decide… If we're… Gonna just, .
• 43:26
  Larry Woods: This is the issue.
• 43:27
  Matt: For the trade paperback?
• 43:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, wait for the next trade, if we're gonna…
• 43:33
  Tad Eggleston: Go issue to issue, if we're gonna…
• 43:37
  Tad Eggleston: read other stuff in between, I think that's my vote.
• 43:41
  Tad Eggleston: Is to expand the book club so that, like, it's a saga book club in months where a saga trade comes out, and…
• 43:49
  Matt: Nice.
• 43:50
  Tad Eggleston: It's other stuff.
• 43:52
  Tad Eggleston: In between.
• 43:53
  Marisol: In between.
• 43:56
  Matt: What would the other stuff be, Tad?
• 44:00
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't thought that far, though I feel like I need to do, that Texas Blood reread. I feel like I need to do a mind management reread.
• 44:14
  Josh Eiserike: I'm the…
• 44:14
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 44:15
  Matt: You haven't done 100 bullets yet.
• 44:18
  Tad Eggleston: Not on the show, but I did just do a reread on my own.
• 44:22
  Matt: Oh, nice.
• 44:24
  Josh Eiserike: I'm doing a reread, also because I never finished it, of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen right now.
• 44:29
  Matt: Oh, nice.
• 44:30
  Josh Eiserike: That… it's astounding. Like, I liked it, and now, like, reading it again, like, even older, like, understanding more of what he's doing, it's so good.
• 44:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 44:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. So yeah, there are lots of options.
• 44:43
  Matt: Well, I'm excited for whatever.
• 44:45
  Tad Eggleston: But we have to figure that out.
• 44:50
  Marisol: that time.
• 44:51
  Tad Eggleston: As always, I feel like Fiona continues to not just steal the show, but up her game.
• 45:06
  Marisol: Oh, that poor little fish.
• 45:14
  Tad Eggleston: I love the music coming out of the ship here.
• 45:18
  Marisol: Right, like, out of the center of the skull, that's cool.
• 45:23
  Matt: Everything about that ship is cool.
• 45:26
  Tad Eggleston: And I can read music now.
• 45:28
  Tad Eggleston: and even something I knew you COULD read before I got here.
• 45:35
  Josh Eiserike: What… what animal is, like, guitar? Like, I'm looking at her, and I'm like, I can't… I can't figure it out.
• 45:41
  Tad Eggleston: I think she's humanoid.
• 45:43
  Josh Eiserike: Humanoid. Well, if it's just, like, the teeth.
• 45:46
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 45:47
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 45:47
  Tad Eggleston: So she… maybe she's like a… well…
• 45:51
  Marisol: The teeth made me think of, at first, like, some kind of weird spider, just… yeah.
• 45:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 45:57
  Marisol: She doesn't have any other spider qualities?
• 46:01
  Larry Woods: Yeah, I mean…
• 46:02
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe some sort of.
• 46:04
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 46:04
  Josh Eiserike: egg.
• 46:06
  Josh Eiserike: B.
• 46:06
  Larry Woods: That was thinking, like, rodent.
• 46:07
  Tad Eggleston: fake as possible.
• 46:09
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it could be a nod to… to, like…
• 46:14
  Matt: Reptile.
• 46:15
  Larry Woods: often.
• 46:15
  Tad Eggleston: Vampirella, or…
• 46:17
  Josh Eiserike: Or what?
• 46:17
  Tad Eggleston: whatnot.
• 46:21
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, particularly for…
• 46:23
  Marisol: A rodent?
• 46:25
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 46:26
  Josh Eiserike: I, I also really.
• 46:28
  Tad Eggleston: A rat-type thing going.
• 46:29
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 46:30
  Josh Eiserike: I really like the, the punk rock, robot with the painted orange monitor, like, that's awesome.
• 46:42
  Tad Eggleston: And what's this t-shirt say?
• 46:44
  Matt: I love how that's like dyeing your hair in robot hair. That's really, yeah, it's very well thought.
• 46:49
  Tad Eggleston: I love… I love that Squire's a ridiculous drummer.
• 46:53
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah That was great.
• 46:59
  Marisol: Just look at him go.
• 47:05
  Marisol: Having a great time.
• 47:13
  Tad Eggleston: I like this cover, too.
• 47:14
  Matt: G8.
• 47:20
  Marisol: Oh, that end… panel with bombazine.
• 47:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 47:26
  Marisol: He just looks so menacingly just standing there with the big ol' cleaver.
• 47:31
  Matt: Yep.
• 47:33
  Matt: And right there, you know he's the guy she's talking about.
• 47:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 47:38
  Marisol: Exactly.
• 47:40
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 47:44
  Marisol: And again, it's just… I need him to come back. I need to know his story.
• 47:49
  Matt: The koala Killer.
• 48:07
  Marisol: Also, I noticed in a later panel,
• 48:11
  Marisol: When Hazel's practicing her guitar, her watch has changed, too.
• 48:17
  Tad Eggleston: Well, remember, because the birthday present one only lasted for 6 months.
• 48:22
  Matt: Yes. Yeah. But I didn't notice the difference.
• 48:27
  Marisol: Yeah, because now the latent safe is, in the later panel, half and half, rather than…
• 48:33
  Tad Eggleston: The monarchy, that's what it says.
• 48:35
  Marisol: A little pie slice of it.
• 48:40
  Josh Eiserike: It's kind of awesome for a robot to have a Fuck the Monarchy shirt.
• 48:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 48:44
  Matt: Yeah.
• 48:50
  Larry Woods: Yeah, that scene between Alana and the reindeer hoof guy, it was just like… Dude…
• 48:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 48:59
  Larry Woods: There's so many better ones.
• 49:02
  Matt: Yes.
• 49:03
  Larry Woods: Make sure that.
• 49:03
  Matt: Oh, not trust him.
• 49:05
  Tad Eggleston: My ears are hurting, but in a good way.
• 49:11
  Matt: Yeah, he's required a little thumbs up.
• 49:15
  Matt: It's because I went to concerts without ear protection in my youth.
• 49:20
  Larry Woods: I still do it!
• 49:22
  Matt: Yeah. Well, it came in handy. I have two daughters and a wife, so I have selective hearing.
• 49:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this was, like… I think the… oh, and… and also the… the… the album… the.
• 49:52
  Matt: Track 4?
• 49:53
  Matt: Isn't that, like, a stairway to Heaven reference or something?
• 49:56
  Tad Eggleston: Well, that, I think, is a stairway to Heaven reference, but this is the band that Isabelle was into.
• 50:03
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 50:04
  Marisol: That heart symbol is what was on her shirt.
• 50:07
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 50:08
  Marisol: I forget the name of them, though.
• 50:10
  Tad Eggleston: Give me a second.
• 50:11
  Marisol: What are they called?
• 50:12
  Tad Eggleston: Because they called them out here.
• 50:16
  Matt: The misguided, the mis…
• 50:18
  Tad Eggleston: The mistook, or no, the mistook is a…
• 50:20
  Marisol: Government Bank.
• 50:21
  Tad Eggleston: aunt.
• 50:21
  Matt: Oh, it's not Firbox?
• 50:25
  Tad Eggleston: No, no.
• 50:26
  Marisol: No, because Petrichor was also into them, because… When.
• 50:31
  Tad Eggleston: The Mistook is the band that the dance teacher had the t-shirt for.
• 50:36
  Matt: Correct.
• 50:42
  Marisol: this one.
• 50:47
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah, I do love that he's built out this whole, like, world of music in this universe. It's awesome.
• 50:54
  Matt: Yeah, music is universal.
• 50:56
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 51:00
  Tad Eggleston: Goose and the Wolf.
• 51:02
  Larry Woods: Hmm.
• 51:03
  Tad Eggleston: Pups.
• 51:05
  Marisol: I feel like it was a phoenix something.
• 51:08
  Matt: Did anyone else question why they need multiple trips back to the… abortion doctor?
• 51:18
  Josh Eiserike: I did, but I assume that's coming.
• 51:22
  Tad Eggleston: Well, at least one.
• 51:23
  Matt: The problem was…
• 51:23
  Tad Eggleston: To get her wings taken off.
• 51:25
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 51:39
  Tad Eggleston: Trying to find…
• 51:41
  Josh Eiserike: I got the sense that, like, Alana's just friends with her.
• 51:44
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 51:45
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 51:46
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, I got that.
• 51:52
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I think… I think that, that they… that she was able to do business through her, too.
• 51:58
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 52:04
  Marisol: Yeah, and this isn't the last time they go see, end wife.
• 52:09
  Marisol: Cause in the… on the… I don't know what page number this is, but where…
• 52:14
  Marisol: Hazel and Squire are hanging out by Frendo. Her narration says, Our first stop was the clinic of a back alley doctor named Endwife, my second of many visits to her over the years.
• 52:33
  Matt: Yes.
• 52:36
  Marisol: So Endwife is around them for a while.
• 52:39
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 52:41
  Matt: How many abortions does she need?
• 52:45
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, again, I think… I… I think she… she became, like… their… their smuggler.
• 52:56
  Matt: Sure.
• 52:57
  Tad Eggleston: Bring in the various supplies they needed.
• 53:01
  Tad Eggleston: And in exchange, she had a place where she could get medical treatment.
• 53:06
  Tad Eggleston: And be safe.
• 53:11
  Larry Woods: Yeah, because I kind of took it as, like, a surgery at that point, not just with the abortion, but the wing removal.
• 53:20
  Marisol: That's great.
• 53:26
  Marisol: I'm sure you'd be very happy.
• 53:29
  Marisol: Endwife apparently has many talents.
• 53:34
  Matt: Well, I mean…
• 53:35
  Tad Eggleston: she's probably… A legit doctor, not just…
• 53:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 53:47
  Marisol: That would make sense.
• 53:48
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it doesn't have to be that way. Particularly in places where abortion is illegal, there have been people who have learned and, like, that's the only part of medicine that they truly know and understand.
• 54:03
  Tad Eggleston: But… in general.
• 54:10
  Marisol: mother's kids.
• 54:15
  Tad Eggleston: pyrosis.
• 54:18
  Tad Eggleston: It's the name.
• 54:19
  Marisol: That's the name of the band.
• 54:21
  Tad Eggleston: Go find the Pyrosis album with an awesome wizard on the cover, and listen to track 4.
• 54:26
  Matt: Until you're… Yep.
• 54:27
  Tad Eggleston: You're… start smoking.
• 54:32
  Tad Eggleston: There we go.
• 54:36
  Larry Woods: That's so good.
• 54:37
  Matt: But he's… they're not wrong. Track 4 was the track when I was back, you know, back in the 80s.
• 54:46
  Tad Eggleston: I love the over-the-ear headphones, too.
• 54:57
  Tad Eggleston: I do kinda wish… like… The way he looks right here…
• 55:04
  Tad Eggleston: I could have seen the next panel being bam… bamboso… bambosa.
• 55:14
  Matt: Just call him Koala Dude.
• 55:16
  Tad Eggleston: I was about to. Bless you.
• 55:18
  Marisol: Bless you.
• 55:19
  Tad Eggleston: I could have seen him just taking reindeer head… skips.
• 55:24
  Tad Eggleston: head off.
• 55:25
  Matt: Yep.
• 55:27
  Tad Eggleston: Like, this look made me think that we were getting violence, not him backing down.
• 55:33
  Matt: Kind of would have been okay with it, too.
• 55:35
  Josh Eiserike: Yeah.
• 55:36
  Tad Eggleston: would've.
• 55:37
  Tad Eggleston: Meow.
• 55:39
  Marisol: I wanna know what that other… Name he called him.
• 55:43
  Marisol: is about… I wanna know the history of that name.
• 55:47
  Matt: Oh, I think we're gonna get it.
• 55:49
  Marisol: Is he a mercenary? Is he a serial killer?
• 55:55
  Larry Woods: Yeah, that panel reminded me, it gave me Marco vibes, which…
• 56:00
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 56:01
  Larry Woods: did make me question, it's like, wait, did Alana kind of find her new Marco, in a way, right?
• 56:09
  Tad Eggleston: That guy who's turned over a new leaf, but absolutely has.
• 56:13
  Tad Eggleston: Badass.
• 56:16
  Tad Eggleston: motherfucker inside of him.
• 56:19
  Marisol: Yes, and it's still there. It hasn't gone away, clearly.
• 56:23
  Larry Woods: Yeah.
• 56:24
  Marisol: Just trying to be better.
• 56:27
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull up my Esperanto.
• 56:35
  Tad Eggleston: And we'll find out what…
• 56:37
  Marisol: Toronto.
• 56:38
  Tad Eggleston: That's what the blue is.
• 56:41
  Marisol: Oh!
• 56:43
  Marisol: I never knew.
• 56:44
  Tad Eggleston: Bestisto?
• 56:53
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see…
• 56:56
  Marisol: I figured it had to be an actual language, just had no idea what that language could be.
• 57:02
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's Esperanto.
• 57:05
  Marisol: Oh.
• 57:06
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see…
• 57:08
  Marisol: The more you know.
• 57:16
  Tad Eggleston: Mwah.
• 57:20
  Marisol: Might have to go back one day and look at all the… the blue…
• 57:24
  Marisol: bubble of what they've been saying.
• 57:26
  Tad Eggleston: 54.
• 57:28
  Tad Eggleston: And that was enough… and that was enough to really, really discover But, for the most part.
• 57:37
  Tad Eggleston: You get it from context.
• 57:46
  Tad Eggleston: the butcher.
• 57:48
  Marisol: Oh…
• 57:50
  Josh Eiserike: I like that.
• 57:51
  Larry Woods: Yeah. The cleaver makes sense. Yeah.
• 57:56
  Josh Eiserike: That's smart.
• 58:00
  Larry Woods: Huh.
• 58:00
  Tad Eggleston: So… what do we think? Involved in the war, or the mob?
• 58:07
  Josh Eiserike: for…
• 58:07
  Tad Eggleston: Or a serial killer.
• 58:08
  Marisol: War. Had to be war.
• 58:11
  Larry Woods: I'm going…
• 58:13
  Tad Eggleston: I'm going tangential to war. I think…
• 58:18
  Tad Eggleston: it's a criminal thing. I think he's, like…
• 58:22
  Tad Eggleston: some major criminal organization's top hitman. I think he's like a Luka Brazi.
• 58:28
  Josh Eiserike: Hmm. I could see that.
• 58:31
  Tad Eggleston: That, that, that's gonna be my guess.
• 58:33
  Tad Eggleston: Is that… that he's, he's, like, that… you know…
• 58:41
  Tad Eggleston: You mess with the underworld, and somebody will send the butcher after you.
• 58:47
  Marisol: Mmm.
• 58:49
  Tad Eggleston: And nobody will identify the pieces.
• 58:57
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah…
• 59:00
  Josh Eiserike: Copy that.
• 59:03
  Tad Eggleston: It's so hard seeing them grow up.
• 59:06
  Tad Eggleston: And there's so much in that hard age.
• 59:11
  Tad Eggleston: When they're starting to think and feel things, but they still don't know shit.
• 59:17
  Tad Eggleston: So they're full speed ahead into brick walls. That's… that's the… that's this age.
• 59:23
  Matt: It's the fool.
• 59:24
  Tad Eggleston: Speed ahead into brick walls age.
• 59:27
  Larry Woods: Man up.
• 59:34
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah…
• 59:36
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I guess Belle isn't gonna get back from her jazz concert in time to join us. So, Matt, I know that she's, like, grown up, and, like, but I know that she's probably gonna come live at the house for a little bit before she moves to Chicago. No, she's going straight from Fredonia to Chicago?
• 59:56
  Matt: Bredonia's 2 hours closer to Chicago from my house, so I was like.
• 1:00:00
  Matt: Pay the extra month. We'll get to… pick up the…
• 1:00:04
  Matt: a U-Haul truck in Fredonia, and drive from Fredonia to Chicago.
• 1:00:10
  Tad Eggleston: Gotcha, gotcha.
• 1:00:11
  Matt: So, it just made more sense.
• 1:00:12
  Tad Eggleston: When is she… is it…
• 1:00:14
  Matt: Around July.
• 1:00:16
  Matt: The July 4th weekend is when she'll be there.
• 1:00:20
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:00:22
  Tad Eggleston: Well, if you need to, Edgar's been known to sleep in the comic shop, maybe he'll let you sleep there too?
• 1:00:29
  Matt: That's cool.
• 1:00:30
  Matt: I'm in, my wife probably won't… There's a comf…
• 1:00:34
  Tad Eggleston: couch.
• 1:00:35
  Matt: Very cool.
• 1:00:37
  Larry Woods: comfortable.
• 1:00:37
  Larry Woods: As someone that's also slept there, yep, very good.
• 1:00:40
  Matt: So…
• 1:00:42
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, if you've both slept there, you need to, like, put bunk beds in the back room.
• 1:00:50
  Larry Woods: No, we spoon.
• 1:00:52
  Larry Woods: Keeps each other warm.
• 1:00:54
  Tad Eggleston: On the couch.
• 1:00:56
  Larry Woods: Yep.
• 1:00:58
  Tad Eggleston: I mean… Ugh…
• 1:01:04
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I haven't even mentioned, Hazel's Blue Hat is awesome.
• 1:01:10
  Tad Eggleston: Did I just say that?
• 1:01:11
  Matt: the topic.
• 1:01:12
  Marisol: Yeah, her little blue top hat.
• 1:01:14
  Tad Eggleston: Your top hat? Awesome.
• 1:01:18
  Matt: I just… I love how the cops immediately assume she's in cahoots with the suicide bomber.
• 1:01:25
  Matt: Oh, profile much?
• 1:01:27
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:01:28
  Marisol: Clearly, clearly, they're both… From wreath, so they have to be in coots together.
• 1:01:34
  Marisol: That's how that works, right?
• 1:01:36
  Matt: Of course! Totally.
• 1:01:38
  Tad Eggleston: Totally.
• 1:01:40
  Tad Eggleston: Totally.
• 1:01:41
  Tad Eggleston: Everybody knows that.
• 1:01:44
  Matt: Ords get along, they're a friend.
• 1:01:49
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, that's… that's like… every authority figure ever, like…
• 1:01:56
  Tad Eggleston: I don't care if you're looking at… at… at…
• 1:02:00
  Tad Eggleston: Gaza, or Lebanon now, or Vietnam, Indonesia…
• 1:02:09
  Tad Eggleston: you know, half of South America over the last 50 years, the… the white people who show up go, oh, you never know if the kid's gonna be a radicalized bomber. You can't… you can't treat them like they're…
• 1:02:29
  Tad Eggleston: possibly just… playing.
• 1:02:37
  Tad Eggleston: We have to be safe.
• 1:02:39
  Tad Eggleston: It was totally real to me.
• 1:02:43
  Tad Eggleston: Too real.
• 1:02:45
  Tad Eggleston: But… Any other thoughts? Or should we… what is the name… This is whack.
• 1:02:55
  Tad Eggleston: WACA Blast? Is that the name of the…
• 1:02:59
  Tad Eggleston: The… the sock puppet game? Snake game?
• 1:03:07
  Tad Eggleston: They don't…
• 1:03:08
  Josh Eiserike: I, I want one.
• 1:03:10
  Tad Eggleston: I do too.
• 1:03:12
  Marisol: It looks like so much fun!
• 1:03:15
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Tad Eggleston: Turns out that it's not faux ice, it's actual water.
• 1:03:20
  Tad Eggleston: yeah.
• 1:03:22
  Tad Eggleston: apparently put.
• 1:03:23
  Marisol: Oh, that's even better.
• 1:03:24
  Tad Eggleston: Control… control the snakes.
• 1:03:27
  Josh Eiserike: I mean, listen, if…
• 1:03:28
  Tad Eggleston: laser-ish.
• 1:03:29
  Josh Eiserike: If we can figure out, like.
• 1:03:32
  Josh Eiserike: all this AI stuff that, you know, is making movies and all this stuff, certainly we can figure out, like, a water whack-a-blast game.
• 1:03:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:03:44
  Tad Eggleston: But am I reading that right? Is that… does that say WACA?
• 1:03:50
  Josh Eiserike: It's… whack.
• 1:03:52
  Josh Eiserike: something… blast. Maybe.
• 1:03:57
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm trying to figure out, like…
• 1:04:02
  Marisol: Wacko Blast?
• 1:04:04
  Tad Eggleston: Well, unless it's man…
• 1:04:09
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's this thing in the middle that makes it hard.
• 1:04:13
  Tad Eggleston: Because…
• 1:04:13
  Marisol: Wow.
• 1:04:14
  Tad Eggleston: asked… like, the A is upside down, and the S is a little weird.
• 1:04:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:04:22
  Marisol: Yes, it's like it's mirrored.
• 1:04:23
  Tad Eggleston: This sideways… this… this… this sideways blocky 8…
• 1:04:30
  Tad Eggleston: right next to what could be a W, upside-down A, C, or it could be an upside-down M, upside-down A, sidewards N.
• 1:04:44
  Tad Eggleston: And, and all we actually know about it… Who's…
• 1:04:48
  Josh Eiserike: What was the game they played in, Fantastic Mr. Fox Whackbat?
• 1:04:52
  Josh Eiserike: Do you guys remember that?
• 1:04:55
  Tad Eggleston: Not really.
• 1:04:56
  Josh Eiserike: Never mind.
• 1:04:57
  Marisol: No.
• 1:04:58
  Josh Eiserike: It was very silly.
• 1:05:01
  Larry Woods: That just makes me think it's like a…
• 1:05:04
  Larry Woods: Either wack and… whack and Blast, like, almost like an AND symbol… symbol.
• 1:05:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it could be, it could be Whack and Blast.
• 1:05:11
  Josh Eiserike: Whack and blast.
• 1:05:15
  Tad Eggleston: That actually makes sense.
• 1:05:17
  Tad Eggleston: Because they can both…
• 1:05:20
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they have the lasers that they shoot out of their mouths, but they can also get wrapped up in each other.
• 1:05:29
  Tad Eggleston: So, I think that's what I'm going with, whack and blast. I want a whack and blast table.
• 1:05:34
  Matt: Yeah, that… when you say that, if you don't know the context, it sounds really bad, just so you know.
• 1:05:40
  Tad Eggleston: Which also makes it that much more likely, Matt.
• 1:05:43
  Matt: Exactly. I want to get a shirt t-shirt that says Wack and Blast.
• 1:05:51
  Marisol: That's gonna go well.
• 1:05:54
  Tad Eggleston: Now these, these, these, splash, white splashes popping up, like…
• 1:06:03
  Matt: You gotta…
• 1:06:03
  Tad Eggleston: Whole different.
• 1:06:04
  Matt: It looked like fireworks. Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Tad Eggleston: Nope. I mean, look at this!
• 1:06:09
  Matt: Oyvee, that's awful.
• 1:06:11
  Tad Eggleston: I can't unsee that, Matt! How dare you?
• 1:06:20
  Marisol: You ruined it.
• 1:06:26
  Marisol: Oh, man.
• 1:06:29
  Larry Woods: Well, at least we ended on a high note.
• 1:06:33
  Matt: I feel like it should be hashtag Whack and Blast.
• 1:06:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I gotta work in the morning, I… I need to watch,
• 1:06:43
  Tad Eggleston: The, the, the first episode or more of…
• 1:06:48
  Tad Eggleston: of Devil and Silver before we go to sleep.
• 1:06:51
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, like, unless somebody else has some…
• 1:06:55
  Tad Eggleston: thread that they desperately want to go on, I'm gonna say.
• 1:06:59
  Josh Eiserike: I have one thing, I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep you up for another minute.
• 1:07:03
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:07:03
  Marisol: Something.
• 1:07:04
  Josh Eiserike: Hazel says… Right, right before the Wack and Blast game.
• 1:07:09
  Josh Eiserike: It wasn't the music my mother cared about, it was the sound only a parent would hear. I wouldn't know.
• 1:07:16
  Josh Eiserike: I'm on the record of predicting the ending. Hazel becomes a mom. I'm still with that prediction, even though this panel completely negates that.
• 1:07:24
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:07:25
  Josh Eiserike: That is all.
• 1:07:27
  Tad Eggleston: Ehhh.
• 1:07:30
  Marisol: We'll have to see if that prediction comes true.
• 1:07:32
  Matt: Thank you for your attention to this matter.
• 1:07:34
  Josh Eiserike: That is all.
• 1:07:34
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it all depends on, like, is this the diary she's writing as she goes along?
• 1:07:39
  Matt: Right, exactly.
• 1:07:42
  Josh Eiserike: We'll find out!
• 1:07:47
  Matt: Alright, we'll continue after the next page.