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- 1:29Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:30Speaker 1: So today, my guest is one of the most highly
- 1:32Speaker 1: decorated detectives in the history of the New York Police Department,
- 1:35Speaker 1: with over 1,400 arrests to his credit, along with being
- 1:38Speaker 1: awarded 62 medals for his efforts in creating a safer city.
- 1:42Speaker 1: He's an author, an actor, a podcast host, an advocate,
- 1:46Speaker 1: and a private investigator.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Welcome, Bo Dietl.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. I'm very honored to be
- 1:51Speaker 2: here with you.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I'm honored to have you.
- 1:53Speaker 2: You might be my new lady.
- 1:54Speaker 3: I mean, who knows?
- 1:55Speaker 1: I'm so excited. We'll have to see after the podcast
- 1:57Speaker 1: if that pans out. So I have a question. In
- 2:00Speaker 1: doing my research on you, I saw that your first
- 2:03Speaker 1: name is not Beau. It's Richard.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Yes.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Where did you get Beau from?
- 2:06Speaker 2: Twelve years old in high school, going into my freshman year.
- 2:10Speaker 2: I couldn't remember people's names. Very bad with names. Faces
- 2:14Speaker 2: I'll never forget. And I used to say, hey, Beau.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Instead of saying, hey, you, call me Beau back. And
- 2:19Speaker 2: then as the years went on, I adopted it as
- 2:22Speaker 2: a name. Then when I ran for United States Congress
- 2:24Speaker 2: back in 1986, a guy did a full page on
- 2:28Speaker 2: me in Newsday and had B.O., had me with a
- 2:32Speaker 2: guinea T-shirt on, and the other one with a suit on.
- 2:36Speaker 2: One was B.O. and one was B.E.A.U. What's in the name?
- 2:40Speaker 2: And I explained, my company's B.E.A.U. Dietl Associates. And then
- 2:44Speaker 2: I liked the name Bo, B.O. And that's– facts. And
- 2:49Speaker 2: that's it. Amazing. Okay.
- 2:50Speaker 1: So does anybody call you by your first name?
- 2:53Speaker 2: Well, my ex-wife called me Richard and then my mother
- 2:56Speaker 2: used to call me Richard. Of course.
- 2:58Speaker 1: That's what I assumed.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Okay.
- 3:00Speaker 1: The other thing I noticed when doing some research on
- 3:03Speaker 1: you is you cannot go, like you have to get
- 3:06Speaker 1: eight pages in to get anything on you because all
- 3:09Speaker 1: the latest news is you and the Real Housewives of
- 3:11Speaker 1: New Jersey, Louie, Teresa, Andy Cohen. What are your thoughts
- 3:15Speaker 1: on that? Because you've done so much and then this
- 3:19Speaker 1: is what people are talking about.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had a very illustrious police career.
- 3:24Speaker 2: And then when Nick Pelleggi put me on a cover
- 3:26Speaker 2: of New York Magazine, that was the advent of me
- 3:30Speaker 2: being different than every other retired homicide detective. Nick tracked
- 3:35Speaker 2: me down. Nick is the author of Goodfellas Casino. And
- 3:39Speaker 2: he's one of my very, very dearest friends. And when
- 3:41Speaker 2: I retired... He put me as a feature story in
- 3:45Speaker 2: New York Magazine. And I thought it was all about
- 3:47Speaker 2: everybody wanted to get to know this famous detective. In
- 3:51Speaker 2: the article, he put down about this table that I
- 3:54Speaker 2: got back in 1977, the place that we're going to
- 3:58Speaker 2: go to tonight. It's Rayo's Restaurant. I really believe that
- 4:03Speaker 2: was the catalyst. I talk about myself in three legs.
- 4:08Speaker 2: One is the leg of having a great police career.
- 4:11Speaker 2: The other is a foundation for a good private investigation company.
- 4:17Speaker 2: And the other one is that table at Rao's because
- 4:20Speaker 2: the table at Rao's was one of the most sought-after
- 4:25Speaker 2: tables to go to dinner with. Because once the article
- 4:28Speaker 2: came out in 1986, everybody was calling me, Ron Perlman, hey, Bo,
- 4:33Speaker 2: I wanted you to take over my security. Then I
- 4:36Speaker 2: met with Jack Welch, some of the Redstone and on
- 4:39Speaker 2: and on. And I thought it was about me. And
- 4:41Speaker 2: you know what it was about? Having freaking dinner at
- 4:44Speaker 2: this table you're coming to tonight. And I've used it.
- 4:48Speaker 2: And we've done movies there. We've done so much. But
- 4:51Speaker 2: the reality of my life is the Nick Pelleggi article.
- 4:54Speaker 2: That's one of the legs. I can't miss that. Then
- 4:57Speaker 2: I said the Rails Restaurant and my career. And that's
- 4:59Speaker 2: my life. Now, you've got to remember, I retired from
- 5:01Speaker 2: the police department 38 years ago. And at that time,
- 5:07Speaker 2: when I was pushed into business, everyone called me. So
- 5:10Speaker 2: we started a business. We've handled triple murders. We've handled
- 5:14Speaker 2: big pharma investigations worldwide. All these major investigations. We took
- 5:18Speaker 2: over the Carpenters Union in New York from two mafia families.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I mean, the reality is we're a real professional investigative company.
- 5:28Speaker 2: We're not the Housewives of New Jersey type thing. And
- 5:31Speaker 2: it was just funny. I met Louie and his lovely wife.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And the first time that I was with them, they
- 5:36Speaker 2: invited us to a housewarming, I thought. I went there
- 5:39Speaker 2: with Margo, and the next thing it was, 15 cameras
- 5:42Speaker 2: were there. They were filming Housewives of New Jersey. I said,
- 5:45Speaker 2: what the hell is this shit? I really didn't want
- 5:47Speaker 2: to be into that. But I like Louis very much,
- 5:50Speaker 2: and I love his wife, too. I really do, and
- 5:52Speaker 2: I'm sorry that we got kind of taken off track here.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Because the reality was, again, no one believes me. I
- 5:59Speaker 2: read it today. Oh, Bo's lying. Why would I lie?
- 6:03Speaker 2: I never did any work for him. on this housewife background.
- 6:07Speaker 2: I told that little guy, Joe and Melissa, you guys
- 6:10Speaker 2: must be seeing ghosts or something. But in reality, I
- 6:13Speaker 2: never did. And it just hurt me a little bit
- 6:16Speaker 2: when people throw my names around like that. And it
- 6:19Speaker 2: just doesn't happen from low. A lot of people, I
- 6:21Speaker 2: find out, well, if you keep messing with me, I'm
- 6:23Speaker 2: going to call Bo Dietl. What am I, Luca Brazzi?
- 6:26Speaker 2: The reality is I have a very professional investigative firm.
- 6:31Speaker 2: We do security investigations. We get hired by the best.
- 6:35Speaker 2: and we do investigations worldwide. And to me, I don't
- 6:39Speaker 2: want to say it cheapened me a little bit with
- 6:41Speaker 2: the Housewives of New Jersey, but again, I'm a professional.
- 6:45Speaker 2: We wouldn't be in business 38 years if we were
- 6:48Speaker 2: doing anything that was not proper and not correct. Right. Okay.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I appreciate that answer. We don't really cover housewives stuff
- 6:56Speaker 1: or reality stuff because that's not really my type of show.
- 7:00Speaker 1: But I will say I did have that girl Vanessa
- 7:03Speaker 1: Reiser on to talk about narcissistic relationships and toxic relationships.
- 7:09Speaker 1: And the hatred I got afterwards on the comments was
- 7:13Speaker 1: not even about the show. It was about how could
- 7:15Speaker 1: I give her a platform and this whole thing where
- 7:17Speaker 1: she has a restraining order against Louis. And so people
- 7:21Speaker 1: really take this stuff, you know, to a whole new
- 7:23Speaker 1: level because they're so obsessed. I actually think Bravo is
- 7:26Speaker 1: a little bit dangerous in the way they create people
- 7:28Speaker 1: that become so obsessed with feeling like they're part of
- 7:31Speaker 1: the show when they don't even.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Know these people. I'm really not interested to be part
- 7:34Speaker 2: of this show, to be very honest with you. Again,
- 7:37Speaker 2: this is something where I'm a professional. Yeah. And, you know,
- 7:41Speaker 2: you can't use me like Luca Brazzi. I'm going to
- 7:44Speaker 2: call Bo Deedle. And that bothered me. I like Lou.
- 7:48Speaker 2: He's my friend still, his wife, I hope, still my friend.
- 7:51Speaker 2: But in reality, it was a bit... I got a
- 7:54Speaker 2: million hits on the ticky-tocky thing or whatever the hell
- 7:58Speaker 2: it's called.
- 7:58Speaker 1: You got so much press. So at least you're relevant
- 8:00Speaker 1: again if you ever weren't.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the clients I really want.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I really want the clients that I have, my corporate
- 8:08Speaker 2: clients I've had for many, many years. And we do
- 8:11Speaker 2: active investigation. There was this triple homicide in Kentucky, three
- 8:15Speaker 2: years old. And we got involved with it. We locked
- 8:18Speaker 2: up the guy that killed the three people. I mean,
- 8:20Speaker 2: this is what we do best. We take cases. And
- 8:23Speaker 2: we investigate. I have some of the best investigators, some
- 8:26Speaker 2: of the best investigators from the New York City Police Department,
- 8:29Speaker 2: homicide detectives. And this is important to me. Also security,
- 8:35Speaker 2: South Street Seaport, UBS, Javits Center. We've done the MEs,
- 8:41Speaker 2: every type of investigation and security we've been involved with
- 8:45Speaker 2: for many, many years. Right.
- 8:48Speaker 1: So, all right, before we get into the details of
- 8:50Speaker 1: all that, though, I want to know, like, where you
- 8:51Speaker 1: came from. Did you want to be in this kind
- 8:54Speaker 1: of line of work when you were a kid?
- 8:55Speaker 2: No.
- 8:56Speaker 1: What did you want to do?
- 8:57Speaker 2: I grew up with a mother that was from Catania, Sicily,
- 9:00Speaker 2: and a father from Germany, a first-generation American here. And
- 9:05Speaker 2: I had a very tough father. who today they would
- 9:08Speaker 2: call child abuse, but I was a tough guy. And
- 9:12Speaker 2: I needed the beatings with a strap that he used
- 9:14Speaker 2: to give me. Today I realized it. Even when I retired,
- 9:17Speaker 2: when I wrote my book, One Tough Cop, I just
- 9:20Speaker 2: signed it to my father, who I thanked him for.
- 9:23Speaker 2: I said, I only got to know after I became
- 9:26Speaker 2: a man. Because you've got to understand, I grew up
- 9:28Speaker 2: in Ozone Park. What Ozone Park is, in the early 60s,
- 9:32Speaker 2: we had a rash of heroin addicts. And they weren't
- 9:35Speaker 2: black and Hispanic. They were Italian sons of mob guys.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I knew off the top of my head, 10 of
- 9:42Speaker 2: them that overdosed on heroin back then. It was our
- 9:45Speaker 2: dirty little city.
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- 10:16Speaker 2: You've written the neighbourhood. And one of the sons of
- 10:19Speaker 2: one of the very big organized crime guys wanted him
- 10:23Speaker 2: to hang around with me because I was very physically
- 10:26Speaker 2: in very great shape from being in high school. We
- 10:31Speaker 2: were part of the John F. Kennedy Marine Corps Physical
- 10:34Speaker 2: Fitness Team, five guys. All we did four hours a
- 10:36Speaker 2: day was pull-ups, push-ups, sit-ups, squat thrusts, and run four
- 10:40Speaker 2: hours a day, including on Christmas morning, Thanksgiving morning. And
- 10:44Speaker 2: so I developed this abnormal strength. So when the father
- 10:48Speaker 2: used to see me, Ralph Scopo Sr., he kind of
- 10:52Speaker 2: pushed his son to me to hang out with him.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I used to have, on Thursday nights, broccoli rabe and
- 11:00Speaker 2: veal cutlets on 106th Street Atlantic Avenue. So I was
- 11:03Speaker 2: always around the father. He became like a second father
- 11:06Speaker 2: to me. So when I graduated high school in 1968, 1968. Okay.
- 11:17Speaker 2: So I'm giving up my age here at 68. So
- 11:20Speaker 2: obviously I didn't know what I was doing. Ralphie Scobo
- 11:23Speaker 2: gave me the keys to his new Cadillac. And he goes,
- 11:25Speaker 2: after your prom, we had the prom at the Hilton Hotel.
- 11:30Speaker 2: And Lou Rawls was performing. Then Ralphie said to me,
- 11:35Speaker 2: I have it all set up. Go see Tony the
- 11:37Speaker 2: Lip at the Copacabana. And there's a guy named Bobby
- 11:39Speaker 2: Darin that's performing. You got a front row seat table.
- 11:44Speaker 2: So I go there and I got treated so nicely. And,
- 11:48Speaker 2: of course, I had to pick the prettiest girl in
- 11:50Speaker 2: the school. I didn't get the first base. I had
- 11:52Speaker 2: a nice Jewish girl, Holly Blyberg. She was really hot.
- 11:56Speaker 2: We had really great sexual activities with each other. But
- 11:59Speaker 2: I picked the prettiest girl in the school, and I
- 12:01Speaker 2: went home with the Daily News and the Mirror. Because
- 12:04Speaker 2: then after the prom, you used to go on the
- 12:05Speaker 2: Staten Island Ferry, and then you go to the beach.
- 12:08Speaker 2: I didn't end up at the beach. So now I'm working,
- 12:12Speaker 2: and Ralph Scupper said, what are you going to do
- 12:13Speaker 2: after you– Finish the high school. I said, well, I'd
- 12:16Speaker 2: like to become a gym teacher. I was on the
- 12:18Speaker 2: high bar, parallel bars, city champion on the high bar.
- 12:21Speaker 2: And I was very physical. Academically, so I said, I
- 12:25Speaker 2: don't know. I wanted to go to college. We don't
- 12:27Speaker 2: have no money for college. We didn't have any kind
- 12:31Speaker 2: of assistant. The only assistant was me working since I
- 12:33Speaker 2: was eight years old, delivering newspapers, working on weekends, sweeping
- 12:38Speaker 2: factories out. So Ralphie says to me, senior, go see
- 12:42Speaker 2: Sammy the Weasel. on 33rd Street and Lexington Avenue. Tell
- 12:45Speaker 2: them I sent you. You're going to become a concrete laborer.
- 12:48Speaker 2: What that was was the guys that build the pyramids,
- 12:51Speaker 2: similar to that, very hard work. So then I started
- 12:54Speaker 2: working there. I bought a brand-new car from Bay Chevrolet.
- 12:57Speaker 2: It's a British green Corvette. And then I started giving
- 13:00Speaker 2: my mom money. And I loved that. I worked all
- 13:03Speaker 2: the overtime, and I had money in my pockets. And
- 13:05Speaker 2: it was for the first time I liked to work
- 13:07Speaker 2: hard to make money. Then he tells me about this
- 13:11Speaker 2: World Trade Center they're going to build. He goes, I
- 13:13Speaker 2: could get you on the World Trade Center as an
- 13:15Speaker 2: iron worker. And I didn't even know what an iron
- 13:17Speaker 2: worker did, but go meet Black Mike. I go meet
- 13:20Speaker 2: Black Mike, and he wasn't black. He was Italian, but
- 13:22Speaker 2: dark skin. I become an iron worker. Now, I took
- 13:26Speaker 2: the COPS test when I was 16 years old. It
- 13:29Speaker 2: was a walk-in. It was a moron test. They showed
- 13:32Speaker 2: you a clock, and they asked you what time it was.
- 13:34Speaker 2: So I think I got a 99. So I took
- 13:36Speaker 2: it when I was 16. So they started to call
- 13:39Speaker 2: me to come in as a trainee. But I was
- 13:41Speaker 2: making so much money. They wanted me to make $ 4, 000
- 13:44Speaker 2: a year in starting pay. And I wasn't too good.
- 13:48Speaker 2: So I kept putting it off. They called me the
- 13:49Speaker 2: first time, second time. Now, the third time they called me,
- 13:53Speaker 2: they said, if I don't accept it, I'm off the list.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Next thing that happens is I said, let me try
- 14:00Speaker 2: this cop shit. Now, the only thing I had interaction
- 14:03Speaker 2: with cops was I was sitting in a park at
- 14:06Speaker 2: night when I was 13 years old and a cop
- 14:08Speaker 2: smashed my shins with a nightstick. I limped home. My
- 14:12Speaker 2: father said, what happened to you? And he beat me
- 14:14Speaker 2: for the next hour when I said a cop hit me.
- 14:16Speaker 2: So I really didn't want to be a cop ever.
- 14:18Speaker 2: So when I went in the academy, and these are
- 14:20Speaker 2: long stories, we'd be here for 10 hours, but I
- 14:23Speaker 2: became a cop. And Ralph Scopo says, you know, you
- 14:26Speaker 2: can't come to the club anymore, Ralph Scopo. But prior
- 14:30Speaker 2: to that, I used to drive him up to East Harlem,
- 14:33Speaker 2: meet with Fat Tony Salerno. So I met all the
- 14:35Speaker 2: gangsters in the world, and I was always both a cop.
- 14:38Speaker 2: So once I became a police officer, became a decoy,
- 14:41Speaker 2: and I was mugged 500 times. I was shot at, stabbed,
- 14:45Speaker 2: hospitalized 30 times. I had a great career. We broke
- 14:48Speaker 2: some of the big cases. But I always worked hard.
- 14:52Speaker 2: That was my work ethics all the time. And my
- 14:54Speaker 2: police career speaks for itself. And then I end up
- 14:58Speaker 2: being the arresting officer in the Palm Sunday Massacre. Ten dead,
- 15:02Speaker 2: including eight children under the age of 12 shot in
- 15:04Speaker 2: the head. I was part of a great task force.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I was named as the arresting officer. We go to
- 15:10Speaker 2: the Helmsley Palace. I was supposed to get promoted. And
- 15:13Speaker 2: the next thing is my Arab princes are in town.
- 15:15Speaker 2: I used to have a bodyguard company. And I was
- 15:18Speaker 2: on the front page of every paper, on the newsreel.
- 15:20Speaker 2: And the prince says to me, Bo, you're so famous.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Tomorrow we go to La Jolla. And I called my lieutenant.
- 15:27Speaker 2: I said, I want to take a few days off.
- 15:28Speaker 2: We go to La Jolla. And I can say it
- 15:30Speaker 2: because this is factual. Alex, the madam of Beverly Hills,
- 15:34Speaker 2: he calls up and he asked for 20 off-duty, off-duty actresses. Now,
- 15:40Speaker 2: these were not hookers. They were paid $ 2, 500 to come
- 15:44Speaker 2: to a party. Whatever they did was their own business
- 15:47Speaker 2: and all that. So when they got to the house,
- 15:50Speaker 2: I had them all in my little house. I said,
- 15:52Speaker 2: here's where it goes. You get your $ 2, 500 tomorrow. I
- 15:55Speaker 2: don't care what you do. I don't want to know it.
- 15:57Speaker 2: I don't want to know it. But one thing, you
- 15:59Speaker 2: steal something, I'm going to lock your asses up. Everything
- 16:02Speaker 2: ran smoothly. Now I'm drinking my vodka. Next thing, the
- 16:05Speaker 2: prince goes, boo, you're so brave. You ever jump out
- 16:07Speaker 2: of a plane? Let's cut to the chase. I go
- 16:09Speaker 2: to Paris, California, P-E-R-R-I-S. In the desert, I jump out
- 16:13Speaker 2: of a plane. I really shouldn't have jumped because I
- 16:16Speaker 2: didn't know what the hell I was doing. I broke
- 16:18Speaker 2: this leg in half.
- 16:20Speaker 1: How? The way you were landing or the way you jumped?
- 16:22Speaker 2: It was a thing called landing. I didn't know about landing. Oh,
- 16:24Speaker 2: my gosh. And that was the best break of my life, really.
- 16:27Speaker 2: I was in the hospital about a month. Then he
- 16:30Speaker 2: had me in his house for another month, came back,
- 16:32Speaker 2: and he says, oh, you're going to be put on
- 16:34Speaker 2: light duty. I panicked. I put my papers in. Nick
- 16:37Speaker 2: Pelleggi wrote the article. And the next thing is history.
- 16:40Speaker 2: And I say it again, the strength, the Nick Pelleggi
- 16:45Speaker 2: article and rails. That's the three legs of the stool. Okay.
- 16:48Speaker 3: I love it.
- 16:49Speaker 1: So obviously you have a million stories from your time
- 16:51Speaker 1: as a homicide detective.
- 16:53Speaker 2: And after that.
- 16:54Speaker 1: And after that. But what in your career, not the
- 16:57Speaker 1: current career, but like what back then really stands out
- 17:01Speaker 1: to you?
- 17:01Speaker 2: Which career?
- 17:02Speaker 1: Well, sorry, the homicide detective part. So what out of
- 17:05Speaker 1: that stood out as something that either was meaningful or
- 17:08Speaker 1: something very upsetting, something that really stands out to you?
- 17:10Speaker 2: Well, and I will cut right to the chase. It
- 17:12Speaker 2: was a rape of a Catholic nun in a convent
- 17:15Speaker 2: in 1981 on 116th Street in Pleasant Avenue. And these
- 17:19Speaker 2: two animals came through the roof. They beat her mercifully,
- 17:23Speaker 2: and they raped and sodomized her. They put a broom
- 17:25Speaker 2: into her vagina, and they carved 27 crosses, urinated on her,
- 17:30Speaker 2: and they left her for dead. We weren't involved with it.
- 17:33Speaker 2: It happened on a Saturday afternoon and never made the
- 17:36Speaker 2: papers until Wednesday. Front pages of every paper across this country.
- 17:41Speaker 2: And my partner Tommy at that time, Tommy Collin, God
- 17:44Speaker 2: rest his soul, he's not with us, He was really
- 17:47Speaker 2: down because he had a lot of parking tickets. He
- 17:49Speaker 2: was drinking heavily. And part of the reason that I
- 17:53Speaker 2: got involved with this case was I said to myself,
- 17:56Speaker 2: if we ever broke this case, they would never take
- 17:58Speaker 2: his detective shield away from him. And that's one of
- 18:00Speaker 2: the reasons because I cared and loved Tommy so much.
- 18:04Speaker 2: So now I asked my captain. They had a task
- 18:07Speaker 2: force of 200 top detectives in New York. We were
- 18:11Speaker 2: anti-crime guys. We were street detectives. But we knew the streets.
- 18:14Speaker 2: We locked up all the gang members. And I would
- 18:17Speaker 2: only work in minority neighborhoods. They asked me to work
- 18:21Speaker 2: in organized crime. And I said, no. I know every
- 18:24Speaker 2: organized crime figure. What, am I going to have dinner
- 18:25Speaker 2: with fat Tony Salerno and say, hey, Tony, sorry, turn around,
- 18:29Speaker 2: I got to put handcuffs on you? No. I want
- 18:31Speaker 2: to catch the guys who are robbing and murdering the
- 18:34Speaker 2: minority community people. So I was a servant to the
- 18:37Speaker 2: minority community when I was a New York City cop
- 18:41Speaker 2: and detective. So now we start working on it. The
- 18:44Speaker 2: first 90 pages of my book, One Tough Cop, describes
- 18:47Speaker 2: one of the most unbelievable investigations that anybody could even
- 18:52Speaker 2: read about. And I tell everybody, read those 90 pages.
- 18:55Speaker 2: When you talk about a sixth sense, and I've used
- 18:58Speaker 2: that sixth sense my whole life, how it steered us
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- 19:33Speaker 2: Chicago 1 in New York And we were able to
- 19:36Speaker 2: lock them up. And you know what our reward was?
- 19:38Speaker 2: I laughed because the politics come into play. The Irish
- 19:42Speaker 2: controlled the police department. A little guy named Jimmy Sullivan,
- 19:45Speaker 2: he had a little Napoleonic complex. And I'm not six
- 19:48Speaker 2: foot two, but this guy was smaller than me. me.
- 19:50Speaker 2: The height requirement used to be five foot eight. I
- 19:52Speaker 2: don't know how he got on. And make a long
- 19:55Speaker 2: story short, he couldn't go on TV and go, for
- 19:59Speaker 2: intensive investigation, we solved this case. No, and who solved
- 20:03Speaker 2: the case? Tom Collin and Bo Dietl. So you know
- 20:06Speaker 2: what our reward was? He shipped me to one end
- 20:08Speaker 2: of Brooklyn. We were in Manhattan. And he shipped Tommy
- 20:10Speaker 2: to the other end of Brooklyn. We had every award
- 20:13Speaker 2: from the governor on down. This was our reward. Just
- 20:16Speaker 2: shows you the politics. And then all of a sudden
- 20:19Speaker 2: I was going to quit. And I got really pissed off.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Then Commissioner McGuire said, Bo's getting promoted tomorrow. They had
- 20:25Speaker 2: 50 detectives being promoted. I was 51. And I made
- 20:29Speaker 2: sure I shook every one of the chief's hands, including
- 20:32Speaker 2: the head of internal affairs. Jim, his name was John Guido.
- 20:36Speaker 2: And I says, thank you, Mr. Guido. He goes, Bo,
- 20:39Speaker 2: I'll put handcuffs on you one day. I said, maybe
- 20:41Speaker 2: you'll fire me for some bullshit, but you'll never. And
- 20:44Speaker 2: then the chief of detectives, I went, I'm sorry, chief
- 20:47Speaker 2: of detectives, you didn't break this case, my partner. And
- 20:50Speaker 2: I look right, and they hated me. But then they
- 20:53Speaker 2: dumped me to the killing fields. And that's where the
- 20:55Speaker 2: Palm Sunday Massacre was. And I started to do murder investigations.
- 20:59Speaker 2: And I worked hard day and night. And that's what
- 21:03Speaker 2: my work ethics have been since then.
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- 24:42Speaker 1: that book was made into a movie, right?
- 24:43Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 1: That's Stephen Baldwin.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Well, I had Mark Wahlberg was with me for six months.
- 24:48Speaker 2: He was supposed to play me, Mark. And then Marty Bregman,
- 24:51Speaker 2: ends up firing in the last minute. I had to
- 24:53Speaker 2: choose between it. When I retired, I went to California,
- 24:57Speaker 2: Bel Air Hotel, the white pink swans. They flew me
- 25:00Speaker 2: in there, and I met with Stallone. I met with Pacino.
- 25:03Speaker 2: I met with everybody. But my biggest meeting was at
- 25:06Speaker 2: the place called on Cannon Drive, Le Familiar. So I
- 25:10Speaker 2: arrived there. I was supposed to meet Tony Scott, one
- 25:14Speaker 2: of the famous directors. Okay. At 6 o'clock, I got
- 25:17Speaker 2: there at 5.30. I'm talking to the bartender. He was
- 25:19Speaker 2: from New York. I said, you know, I'm a retired
- 25:21Speaker 2: homicide detective. I turn around at the end of the room. Now,
- 25:24Speaker 2: I knew Frank Sinatra. I've had dinner with Frank Sinatra
- 25:27Speaker 2: many times through my friend Rocco DeDeef and Louis Dome
- 25:31Speaker 2: and all my friends. But I always wanted to meet Mr.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Dean Martin. And I go, is that who I– I says,
- 25:38Speaker 2: you think he would mind if I could say hello
- 25:40Speaker 2: to him? He goes, you know what, Bo? I think
- 25:42Speaker 2: you'd like him. This is right after he lost his son, Dino.
- 25:45Speaker 2: and an aircraft crashed into the mountain. So I walked by,
- 25:49Speaker 2: and I said, Mr. Martin, excuse me. I said, my
- 25:52Speaker 2: name's Bo Dito. I'm a retired homicide detective. I'm out
- 25:55Speaker 2: here on some bullshit movie business, but you're the person
- 25:59Speaker 2: I've always wanted to meet in my life. He said,
- 26:01Speaker 2: sit the F down. He had this glass that was
- 26:04Speaker 2: this big. It was a martini glass. He yells at
- 26:06Speaker 2: the bartender, get Bo when I'm drinking. And I never
- 26:10Speaker 2: drank like that. Now we started to drink. Tony Scott's
- 26:13Speaker 2: at the bar. The bartender goes over. Mr. Scott's waiting.
- 26:16Speaker 2: I said, do me a favor. You tell Mr. Scott.
- 26:18Speaker 2: He was one of the biggest directors. If you don't
- 26:20Speaker 2: want to wait for me, I'm with Mr. Martin. Either
- 26:22Speaker 2: he waits or he can leave. I really don't care
- 26:25Speaker 2: because I'm with Mr. Dean Martin. But that just shows
- 26:27Speaker 2: you where I come from. I'm a very loyal guy,
- 26:31Speaker 2: and I'm a very respectful guy. Every time I went
- 26:34Speaker 2: back to California, I made sure I went to La Famiglia.
- 26:37Speaker 2: And I made sure I said, we never ate anything.
- 26:39Speaker 2: All we did was drink ourselves to an oblivion. And
- 26:42Speaker 2: that was it. And that was one of my thrills.
- 26:44Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the movie didn't get
- 26:47Speaker 2: made right away. They came out with a script and
- 26:50Speaker 2: not so good. Some guy from Raw Hyde. Next thing
- 26:52Speaker 2: is Martin Bregman gets me. He said, we got the script.
- 26:55Speaker 2: We got Psycho Abel Ferrara, the director.
- 26:58Speaker 1: I used to work for Abel.
- 26:59Speaker 2: He's a nut job. Remember Marla Hanson? That guy, yeah.
- 27:02Speaker 2: I know. Bo knows everything. So now all of a
- 27:04Speaker 2: sudden with this nut, I'm trying to deal with him
- 27:06Speaker 2: and the complete psychopath. And the next thing is we
- 27:09Speaker 2: bring in Mark Wahlberg, who I love. And to this day,
- 27:13Speaker 2: Mark thought I was involved because I was the executive producer.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Marty Bregman got rid of him. I would have given
- 27:18Speaker 2: my– any fee I had, I would have given it
- 27:20Speaker 2: up for Mark Wahlberg. To play you. I loved Mark Wahlberg,
- 27:24Speaker 2: and I still love Mark Wahlberg. And he's my friend.
- 27:26Speaker 2: He was just on Long Island. I just sent him
- 27:28Speaker 2: a text saying, hey, you come in my neighborhood, you
- 27:30Speaker 2: don't call me. And so also Leonardo DiCaprio comes into
- 27:35Speaker 2: my neighborhood, they don't call me. Yeah. I get very
- 27:38Speaker 2: offended with that kind of stuff. So then he fires
- 27:41Speaker 2: Mark Wahlberg six months into it. And the next thing is,
- 27:45Speaker 2: he said, well, you got to pick between Matt Dillon
- 27:48Speaker 2: and Stephen Baldwin. So I'm at the Four Seasons. We
- 27:51Speaker 2: used to have a table at 5 o'clock, cigars we
- 27:53Speaker 2: used to drink. So who's sitting over there? Sly. He
- 27:56Speaker 2: comes in, Stallone. Hey, Sly. You know, boy, I still
- 27:59Speaker 2: want to play you. I said, Sly, you're too old now.
- 28:02Speaker 2: But here, I got a question. Who would you pick?
- 28:05Speaker 2: Matt Dillon or this kid Stephen Baldwin to play me?
- 28:08Speaker 2: He goes, well, you know, Matt Dillon is like a
- 28:10Speaker 2: broad that's been around, you know. But I would pick
- 28:13Speaker 2: the Virgin. And that's Stephen Ball and that's why we
- 28:15Speaker 2: got him. Now, basically, Abel gets fired and we bring
- 28:19Speaker 2: in Bruno Beretta.
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- 28:51Speaker 2: To Amy Irving, Spielberg's first wife. I think 80 million.
- 28:56Speaker 2: She got a nice little hit there. Yeah, that sounds nice.
- 28:59Speaker 2: And then the first day of filming, we were filming
- 29:00Speaker 2: in New York. And I'm the executive producer at Toronto.
- 29:03Speaker 2: I love Toronto. Our Canadian people are beautiful people. And
- 29:07Speaker 2: I had a deal with Chris Penn, the being drunk
- 29:10Speaker 2: all the time, God rest his soul. And we go
- 29:13Speaker 2: up there, and the next thing is I go over,
- 29:14Speaker 2: I tap Bruno Barreto. We're doing a scene in a
- 29:17Speaker 2: Wiseguy club. I want to talk to him. It's about
- 29:19Speaker 2: my life, and I'm the executive producer. No. He turns around,
- 29:22Speaker 2: he yells at me. I says, I got a question.
- 29:25Speaker 2: He yells at me. He goes, can't you see? I'm
- 29:27Speaker 2: directing a movie. I said, you're fucking talking to me
- 29:30Speaker 2: like that again. I'll punch you right through this window.
- 29:32Speaker 2: You don't talk to me. I quit. He runs out.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Marty Bregman's sitting there laughing. And he goes, well, we
- 29:37Speaker 2: don't have a director. I said, fuck you. You did so...
- 29:40Speaker 2: You did Scarface. You did everything. You directed this. I
- 29:44Speaker 2: had to apologize. We brought him back. That's the way
- 29:47Speaker 2: I am. I tell it like it is. Right, right.
- 29:49Speaker 1: You've also done some Scorsese.
- 29:51Speaker 2: Oh, I've done five, six Scorsese movies from good fellas.
- 29:55Speaker 2: And that's what leads us into Rayos. So basically, I've
- 30:00Speaker 2: had the first table ever given out by Frankie Pellegrino,
- 30:03Speaker 2: the owner, was a Thursday night. It's the hottest table.
- 30:08Speaker 2: It's first class. It's the only table that you could
- 30:11Speaker 2: put 10 people on. First class, the rest is steerage.
- 30:13Speaker 2: In the back is steerage, I say. You know what
- 30:16Speaker 2: steerage is.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Yes, of course I know what it is.
- 30:18Speaker 2: So I bring Marty Scorsese up there with Nick Pelleggi.
- 30:21Speaker 2: And now I meet Nick when he puts me in
- 30:24Speaker 2: the feature article in New York Magazine back in 1986.
- 30:27Speaker 2: He tells me about this book he's writing called Wiseguy.
- 30:31Speaker 2: And he goes, Paul, you know Paul Vario? You know
- 30:33Speaker 2: Henry Hill? I said, that scumbag, I knew him. And
- 30:37Speaker 2: Jimmy Burke, I said, I locked Jimmy up on two murders.
- 30:39Speaker 2: I used to drink beer in his bar. I knew
- 30:41Speaker 2: everybody in Goodfellas. So I got involved with it. And
- 30:44Speaker 2: even towards the end of my police career, I had
- 30:46Speaker 2: to pick up Jimmy Burke at the Allenwood and bring
- 30:49Speaker 2: him back on two murders that Henry Hill gave him
- 30:51Speaker 2: up on. So now all of a sudden he's writing
- 30:55Speaker 2: the story and he goes, he's got the script written.
- 30:57Speaker 2: He goes, we're going to do the movie. First, it
- 30:59Speaker 2: was going to be a low budget in Canada. Then
- 31:01Speaker 2: when Mr. Scorsese, notice how I say Mr. Scorsese, greatest
- 31:05Speaker 2: director ever, ever. And when Marty gets involved with it,
- 31:09Speaker 2: he now brings in Pesci and De Niro and the
- 31:13Speaker 2: rest is history. So now Nicky says to me, do
- 31:16Speaker 2: you think we could bring Marty up to Rao's and
- 31:18Speaker 2: we could have dinner there? He brings Ellen Lewis, top
- 31:21Speaker 2: casting director, Lorraine Bracco, my friend that we lost, what's
- 31:27Speaker 2: his name, that we just lost, the star of Goodfellas,
- 31:30Speaker 2: Ray Liotta. And the casting director and all the people
- 31:34Speaker 2: for them, Nick Pelleggi and Mr. Scorsese. Now he's looking
- 31:38Speaker 2: around the bar. We used to have a bar scene there.
- 31:41Speaker 2: You had Petey Neck. His neck was stuck. Johnny Roast
- 31:44Speaker 2: Beef owned the deli. You had Mikey Black. And Scorsese,
- 31:49Speaker 2: the excellent director, as he looks around, he goes, Bo,
- 31:53Speaker 2: can we come back next Thursday? And anybody who wants
- 31:56Speaker 2: to be in Goodfellas, tell them, come on, we'll cast
- 31:58Speaker 2: it right for you. I said, that's an easy one. Wow.
- 32:01Speaker 2: So the following week, we casted. We casted Frankie. I
- 32:05Speaker 2: guess we casted me, too. And we casted Tony Lip,
- 32:09Speaker 2: that was at the Copacabana, did Breen Book. Johnny Ross Peete,
- 32:13Speaker 2: Mikey Black, Petey Neck, Petey Nosed. We casted everybody. My
- 32:21Speaker 2: friend was the captain at the Copacabana. Everybody, including Frankie.
- 32:27Speaker 2: And we put them all in the movie. And that's
- 32:30Speaker 2: what Rails was all about. And you can see the
- 32:33Speaker 2: boss scene in Goodfellas. That's what Mr. Martin Scorsese is
- 32:37Speaker 2: all about, seeing the environment and putting real people in there.
- 32:41Speaker 2: Next thing that happens is, that's a great one. I
- 32:44Speaker 2: get a call from Marty Scorsese again. We did Vinyl.
- 32:48Speaker 2: It's another great thing with Bobby Cannavale. And we did Irish.
- 32:53Speaker 2: We did a lot there. But the other one that
- 32:54Speaker 2: comes to mind is, all of a sudden, Marty calls me.
- 32:57Speaker 2: He says, you know, I'm reading this book, Wolf of
- 32:58Speaker 2: Wall Street. And you're in throughout this book one and two.
- 33:02Speaker 2: He goes, you know, we're going to do a movie
- 33:04Speaker 2: on it. And who do you want to get to play?
- 33:06Speaker 2: I said, fuck you, Marty. I'm playing myself. Quote, unquote.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Fuck you, Marty. I'm playing myself. And I played Bo Dietl.
- 33:13Speaker 2: And then he said, you think we could film in rails?
- 33:16Speaker 2: And thank God for Frankie Pellegrino. We arranged it. Leo
- 33:20Speaker 2: and I actually filmed there. Now, back up. I used
- 33:23Speaker 2: to bring out a little creep. I called him the
- 33:25Speaker 2: rat of Wall Street, Jordan Belfort. He wasn't the wolf
- 33:29Speaker 2: of Wall Street. He wore a wire. He turned in
- 33:32Speaker 2: 10 of his own people. I don't like rats. You
- 33:34Speaker 2: know what a rat is? I do. I don't like rats.
- 33:36Speaker 2: And even when the Wall Street Journal interviewed me after
- 33:39Speaker 2: the movie, I said, this punk, first of all, stole
- 33:42Speaker 2: about $ 220 million, mostly money. from all Jewish people from
- 33:47Speaker 2: the North Shore of Long Island. I said he killed
- 33:49Speaker 2: more Jews than Hitler because of the fact these are
- 33:52Speaker 2: people's 25,000, 30,000 life savings. And he pumped and dumped
- 33:56Speaker 2: them and wiped them out. I don't like that bullshit.
- 33:59Speaker 2: And he was a cheap bastard because he never gave
- 34:01Speaker 2: money to the Jews. to charities, and then he set
- 34:03Speaker 2: his own people up that he put in business. And
- 34:06Speaker 2: I grabbed a U.S. attorney not too long ago. I said,
- 34:08Speaker 2: how come he paid back $ 12 million? Why is he
- 34:11Speaker 2: able to make money without paying restitution to these families?
- 34:15Speaker 2: That money was their life savings. So I don't have,
- 34:18Speaker 2: you know, he, he wants to be my friend. I'm
- 34:20Speaker 2: not his friend. I don't like him. He stole that money,
- 34:23Speaker 2: went away for 15 months and he bragged about playing tennis.
- 34:26Speaker 2: He's a criminal. What about the little old lady, the
- 34:29Speaker 2: little old Jewish, maybe, maybe even a survivor of Auschwitz
- 34:33Speaker 2: who had her life savings and gave it to this
- 34:35Speaker 2: little creep and he pissed it away and he never
- 34:38Speaker 2: paid that money back. How was he able to do that? See,
- 34:41Speaker 2: I like, things that turn out right. But then again,
- 34:44Speaker 2: one of my wise guy friends, one guy had $ 40
- 34:47Speaker 2: million in real estate. They took every dime away from him.
- 34:51Speaker 2: But this guy got away and I don't like him.
- 34:53Speaker 2: And if he was here right now, I'd tell him
- 34:55Speaker 2: right through his face, I don't like you. His wife, Nadine,
- 34:58Speaker 2: is a doctor, a psychologist. I love Nadine.
- 35:01Speaker 1: She's going to be on the show.
- 35:02Speaker 2: And Nadine was more prettier than than Margot Robbie. When
- 35:07Speaker 2: she was her aide, when she was Jordan's wife, I
- 35:11Speaker 2: love Nadine. Nadine, I'm single.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Not for long.
- 35:17Speaker 2: But, you know, it's just funny. And in that place, again,
- 35:21Speaker 2: Sumner Redstone, Bill Gates, every major people, every major person
- 35:27Speaker 2: in the world, and then Roger Ailes. I went through
- 35:29Speaker 2: the whole Fox thing. Now you've got Lachlan Murdoch. I
- 35:31Speaker 2: call him the lucky sperm. I'm having a battle. I'm
- 35:34Speaker 2: suing the New York Post. for liable and slander. I
- 35:36Speaker 2: don't mess around. Everybody said, how could you take on
- 35:38Speaker 2: the New York Post? Well, you want to know something?
- 35:41Speaker 2: I'll take on the New York Post. When you lie
- 35:43Speaker 2: and you slander me, be careful because I'm coming. And
- 35:47Speaker 2: he has a problem. He's a lucky sperm. That's all
- 35:49Speaker 2: he is. Roger Ailes called him a lucky sperm. That's
- 35:52Speaker 2: where I got it from. Roger Ailes made Fox News
- 35:55Speaker 2: and made a lot of people there before all this nonsense.
- 35:58Speaker 2: And they were settling claims. Have you worked there? All
- 36:01Speaker 2: you had to do is say, Roger said you had
- 36:03Speaker 2: nice legs. They would have given you $ 5 million right away.
- 36:07Speaker 2: They just signed checks, signed checks. It was crazy what
- 36:09Speaker 2: was going on. And then when Roger, everyone knew Roger
- 36:12Speaker 2: Ailes was my friend. Now we're going to go back
- 36:14Speaker 2: to the Louis thing. Everyone knew that I liked Roger.
- 36:17Speaker 2: I knew Roger from when we did CNBC years ago.
- 36:20Speaker 2: All of a sudden, when this whole thing broke, everyone
- 36:23Speaker 2: said Bo Dietl was his private investigator. Bo Dietl did
- 36:28Speaker 2: all the black ops on the 17th floor. Bo Dietl
- 36:31Speaker 2: met with him in his house. I never had any
- 36:34Speaker 2: work done for Roger Ailes ever, ever, other than my
- 36:38Speaker 2: firm being hired by law firms to investigate these sexual
- 36:42Speaker 2: harassment complaints, which you get a law firm, they hire
- 36:45Speaker 2: a renowned investigative group, which we do. And now when
- 36:49Speaker 2: I was running for mayor at the same time, 2017,
- 36:52Speaker 2: and then lucky sperm Lachlan didn't like me. And he
- 36:55Speaker 2: would not put me in the post when I was
- 36:57Speaker 2: running for mayor. And now it's time for the rooster
- 37:00Speaker 2: to come home. Right now, Fox News Corp is facing.
- 37:03Speaker 2: They just settled for a billion dollars with some. Now
- 37:06Speaker 2: they got some cement cement tech coming up. They had Dominion.
- 37:10Speaker 2: There's the voting machine. $ 2. 5 billion. Another one coming. But
- 37:13Speaker 2: they can't fire him because the Murdochs could control the
- 37:16Speaker 2: board of directors. You've got to have another lawsuit. Another
- 37:20Speaker 2: lawsuit's coming from me. Liable and slandered. You can't do that.
- 37:23Speaker 2: I'm the little guy. I don't care because all it
- 37:26Speaker 2: is was his daddy's money because he couldn't run a
- 37:28Speaker 2: frigging Frank for the stand outside. And you'll never, ever
- 37:31Speaker 2: be my guest at Rayos Punk until you can meet
- 37:34Speaker 2: with me. You can have 10 of your security guys,
- 37:36Speaker 2: 18 lawyers. You want to know the truth?
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- 38:09Speaker 2: I never did anything for Roger Ailes. Now, something came out.
- 38:13Speaker 2: My company was hired by somebody to follow his ex-wife, Murdoch,
- 38:19Speaker 2: Lucy Ding Dong, or whatever her name was. Lucy Dong
- 38:22Speaker 2: Dong Ding Dong. Whatever her name was, right?
- 38:24Speaker 1: Sounds good.
- 38:25Speaker 2: So I'm running for mayor. I don't know. We have
- 38:26Speaker 2: 100 cases going on. So they hired us to do
- 38:28Speaker 2: a surveillance on it. Not Roger Ailes. Roger Ailes never
- 38:31Speaker 2: hired my firm. Mm-hmm. Who was hired? He's dead now.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Some of the Redstone, that maniac. I knew him very well.
- 38:37Speaker 2: He hired my firm to follow Lucy DingDock. He hated
- 38:40Speaker 2: Reuben Murdoch. Now he could come out. I could open
- 38:43Speaker 2: up about it because he's dead now. So that dies
- 38:46Speaker 2: with the story. But I was accused again. I got
- 38:50Speaker 2: Bo Dietl. You never had Bo Dietl. And Bo Dietl never,
- 38:53Speaker 2: ever worked for Roger Ailes doing any kind of stuff
- 38:57Speaker 2: against anybody other than being hired by a outside law
- 39:01Speaker 2: firm to do the defense investigation for some of their talent.
- 39:06Speaker 1: So you mentioned before something where you had some political aspirations.
- 39:10Speaker 1: You were running for mayor. Do you think that that's
- 39:12Speaker 1: going to be in your future again? Do you want
- 39:13Speaker 1: to get involved in politics?
- 39:14Speaker 2: I wouldn't run for frigging dog collector. And that's a
- 39:17Speaker 2: whole other story.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Why not?
- 39:20Speaker 2: What happened the first round when I ran for United
- 39:22Speaker 2: States Congress, when I sat with– and everyone could Google
- 39:25Speaker 2: Bo Dietl and Ronald Reagan. I sat in the Oval
- 39:27Speaker 2: Office for 15 minutes with Ronald Reagan Vice President became
- 39:31Speaker 2: President George Bush. And I lost an election by 2,500
- 39:34Speaker 2: votes in an area with seven to one Democrat. When
- 39:38Speaker 2: the Reverend Floyd Flake all of a sudden ran against me, mysteriously,
- 39:42Speaker 2: an Irish guy pops in at the end for third candidate.
- 39:46Speaker 2: And he pulls 4,000 votes from the Rockies. He's all white.
- 39:49Speaker 2: And I lose by 2,500. And then even Alphonse D'Amato
- 39:52Speaker 2: turned on me. I start to see the politics. Now
- 39:55Speaker 2: I'm running. I sit down with Steve, the guy who
- 40:00Speaker 2: owns the Mets, Steve Cohen, Zach Cabot. Love him. Love
- 40:04Speaker 2: his wife. Alex, real sweethearts. I've been with them all
- 40:09Speaker 2: over the place with them. And then all of a
- 40:10Speaker 2: sudden he says to me, Bo, if you run for mayor,
- 40:13Speaker 2: you've got to run as a Democrat. I said, I
- 40:14Speaker 2: don't care if I'm a Democrat, Republican. I know what
- 40:16Speaker 2: this city needs, and I'll fight, and I'm a fighter.
- 40:19Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden I meet with Ken Langone,
- 40:21Speaker 2: my dear friend from Home Depot. He says the same thing.
- 40:24Speaker 2: So now I change my party, but I also check independently.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I don't know you can't check two boxes, but it's
- 40:31Speaker 2: happened all the time. And I run, and then David
- 40:35Speaker 2: Goodman from the New York Times calls me and said, Bo,
- 40:37Speaker 2: you're not on any line. So I look. I call
- 40:40Speaker 2: up the head of the Board of Elections, who was
- 40:42Speaker 2: Big Bird de Blasio's guy. Next thing he goes, well,
- 40:46Speaker 2: we're sending you an affidavit. Get it in all rights.
- 40:47Speaker 2: We'll put you right on the thing. I do everything.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Two months, three months go by. I call him back up.
- 40:53Speaker 2: He was brought in by Big Bird de Blasio. Mm-hmm.
- 40:56Speaker 2: He goes, well, we had a meeting. Mr. Dietl, you're
- 40:59Speaker 2: not going to be a Democrat, nor you're a Republican.
- 41:01Speaker 2: You won't have any lying in this mayor race. You
- 41:04Speaker 2: know what, that fella? So I sued $ 40, 000 to the
- 41:07Speaker 2: frigging lawyer, and he tells me, don't worry, boy, I've
- 41:09Speaker 2: handled these many times. First stop, Supreme Court. Who's there?
- 41:14Speaker 2: de Blasio's general counsel with two lawyers in my courtroom.
- 41:17Speaker 2: And they talk to the judge. Judge goes, we don't
- 41:19Speaker 2: need a hearing. I've made my decision, Mr. Dietl. This
- 41:23Speaker 2: mayor run, you don't have a party line. Then I
- 41:26Speaker 2: went to appellate court, same thing. And the court of appeals,
- 41:29Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about, the little guys. And we
- 41:32Speaker 2: can see it happening right now. And I'm not a
- 41:34Speaker 2: Trump sucker. I know Trump 40 years. If he shut
- 41:37Speaker 2: his frigging mouth, he would have gotten reelected. His personality,
- 41:40Speaker 2: his attitude is the reason why he wasn't reelected. And
- 41:43Speaker 2: he did great things. But the point is, when you
- 41:46Speaker 2: have somebody with a big mouth like that, nobody wants
- 41:49Speaker 2: to vote for him. And he did good, good things.
- 41:52Speaker 2: But in reality, in reality, like de Blasio, he destroyed
- 41:57Speaker 2: the city. They robbed money. There was bribery for the
- 42:01Speaker 2: two guys in Brooklyn. They got convicted. Bribery has two
- 42:04Speaker 2: points to it. The bribery and the bribe receiver. That
- 42:07Speaker 2: was Bill de Blasio. And they never arrested him for him.
- 42:10Speaker 2: Then a billion and a half dollars, him and his
- 42:13Speaker 2: lovely wife with Operation Thrive. What would you do with
- 42:16Speaker 2: the billion and a half dollars?
- 42:17Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.
- 42:18Speaker 2: Nobody's investigating. And look what's going on. It's coming out
- 42:21Speaker 2: right now. And again, I'm not a Trump sucker. But
- 42:24Speaker 2: what's coming out, what the FBI did against him, you
- 42:27Speaker 2: or I. should not be politically enforced by the FBI
- 42:31Speaker 2: or the Department of Justice. And it's Merrick Garland, this
- 42:33Speaker 2: piece of garbage, who stops me from doing things that
- 42:37Speaker 2: I can save people on the streets tomorrow if they
- 42:40Speaker 2: would prosecute people carrying guns who are convicted. and federally
- 42:44Speaker 2: charge them with the gun laws, they'll go away for
- 42:46Speaker 2: 10 to 15 years, and we should start in New
- 42:49Speaker 2: York City, and it could go across the country. 21,000
- 42:52Speaker 2: people were killed in 2022. Majority of 80% were black-on-black
- 42:59Speaker 2: with small guns, not machine guns, not AR-15s. Nobody wants
- 43:03Speaker 2: to deal with the facts. And then when you have
- 43:05Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter that rioted, beat people up, did everything awesome,
- 43:11Speaker 2: and were never prosecuted, And they take the heart and
- 43:14Speaker 2: soul against our police officers the way where they're not
- 43:17Speaker 2: doing their jobs because they don't want to lose their job.
- 43:19Speaker 2: There's so many things. I'm still here. I'm still fighting.
- 43:23Speaker 2: You know what? One day on the streets of New York,
- 43:25Speaker 2: I'll probably meet my demise because I am not going
- 43:28Speaker 2: to get robbed. And I tell you right now, if
- 43:31Speaker 2: somebody thinks they're going to rob me or kill me,
- 43:33Speaker 2: he'll know that they're going to be in a battle.
- 43:35Speaker 2: That's all I'll tell you.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Who would you like to see be the next mayor?
- 43:39Speaker 1: Or who do you think would do a good job?
- 43:40Speaker 2: Well, I'm still praying for Eric Adams. I was with
- 43:45Speaker 2: Eric Adams from the beginning when he became a state senator.
- 43:48Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed, but I'm not giving up on him.
- 43:51Speaker 2: I texted him today. I text him every day. I'm
- 43:55Speaker 2: still not giving up. I just got to grab him.
- 43:58Speaker 2: I grabbed him at my friend's house. We were over
- 44:00Speaker 2: at the Trump International. My friend has a penthouse up there,
- 44:03Speaker 2: a billionaire guy. So we were out drinking. I was
- 44:05Speaker 2: with the mayor. And we're looking, overlooking the city, all
- 44:08Speaker 2: the lights. And I grabbed him. by his shoulder. I said, look, Mr. Mayor,
- 44:12Speaker 2: this is your city. If you straighten this out, you
- 44:15Speaker 2: could be the president. I playfully slapped him in the face.
- 44:18Speaker 2: I said, look it. I did. But I didn't mean
- 44:21Speaker 2: to hurt him. And I didn't hurt him. But that's
- 44:23Speaker 2: the way kind of guy. He knew it was a
- 44:25Speaker 2: playful slap. Yeah, yeah.
- 44:26Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about your thoughts on
- 44:28Speaker 1: crime and safety in New York City. What are your thoughts?
- 44:32Speaker 1: on what's going on. Let's talk about the subways.
- 44:34Speaker 2: For example. Crime is really, really bad. Everybody says, how
- 44:39Speaker 2: do you know? I went through the 70s and 80s.
- 44:42Speaker 2: I know crime. The only difference was we were able
- 44:45Speaker 2: to lock up these gangbangs. And they said, oh, the
- 44:47Speaker 2: murder rate's down. Yeah, the murder rate's down because half
- 44:50Speaker 2: of them killed off each other. And that's why the
- 44:53Speaker 2: murder rate is down. But the real facts are people
- 44:56Speaker 2: are not even reporting it. And when they get a
- 44:58Speaker 2: 70% of people That were, what's that thing in Jersey,
- 45:03Speaker 2: that famous college, Siena College. Siena? Siena College. It was
- 45:09Speaker 2: probably 70%, including my sons, my daughter, my grandson, who
- 45:14Speaker 2: lives in this city. are so fearful about crime. Fear,
- 45:18Speaker 2: and you know what? You can use all the statistics.
- 45:20Speaker 2: They downgrade the crimes. A robbery, they make it to
- 45:23Speaker 2: a loss. They downgrade all these. These statistics mean bullshit.
- 45:27Speaker 2: What a person is feeling. When I talk to people,
- 45:31Speaker 2: when I talk to people who are scared, I'm scared
- 45:34Speaker 2: for them. I'm not scared for them. I'm not scared
- 45:36Speaker 2: of nothing. But I'm scared for you. I'm scared for
- 45:39Speaker 2: my grandson, my daughters, my sons. And all the people
- 45:42Speaker 2: that work for me and the people in New York City,
- 45:45Speaker 2: that's fear. And please, Mr. Mayor, you've got to deal
- 45:49Speaker 2: with this. And I do have answers. And I don't
- 45:51Speaker 2: want to be deputy mayor, deputy commissioner. I don't want
- 45:54Speaker 2: to be none of that. I run a big business.
- 45:57Speaker 2: I have a lot of security guards that we do
- 46:00Speaker 2: major events, major things. I have an investigative division. I
- 46:04Speaker 2: want to be a consultant, but I also want the
- 46:06Speaker 2: permission to have some sort of a title where I
- 46:09Speaker 2: could go to the U.S. attorney that controls the Southern
- 46:12Speaker 2: and Eastern District of New York City and sit down
- 46:15Speaker 2: with the attorney general. These are the AUSA. But the
- 46:18Speaker 2: problem is Garland, this fool, Garland, this fool, don't want
- 46:23Speaker 2: them to prosecute these gun cases. Why? Why? Because they're
- 46:27Speaker 2: black and it's going to be a racial thing. No, no, no, no.
- 46:30Speaker 2: If he's Chinese, if he's Jewish, if he's white, he's Italian.
- 46:34Speaker 2: You carry a gun and you're a convicted felon. Bye-bye, dickhead.
- 46:37Speaker 2: You go away for 10 or 15 years. If we
- 46:40Speaker 2: start to do that, you'll see the shootings will stop.
- 46:43Speaker 2: The shootings will stop and it'll go across the city.
- 46:45Speaker 2: Look at even my friend, 50 Cent, who was a
- 46:48Speaker 2: drug dealer from Brooklyn. I know him as another name.
- 46:51Speaker 2: I like 50 Cent a lot. And the next time
- 46:54Speaker 2: you see him, I'm going to go hug and kiss him.
- 46:56Speaker 2: He came out and said what they did in Los
- 46:58Speaker 2: Angeles with the bail reform, Los Angeles is going to
- 47:03Speaker 2: be destroyed. Now, this is from a gangbanger. And he
- 47:06Speaker 2: has come to the conclusion when 50 Cent says it,
- 47:09Speaker 2: I think there's something there.
- 47:11Speaker 1: What do you think about Yousef Salam, one of the
- 47:14Speaker 1: five teenagers convicted and sentenced to prison in the Central
- 47:17Speaker 1: Park jogger case?
- 47:18Speaker 2: That was the Central Park five. Yeah. I know it
- 47:20Speaker 2: very well.
- 47:20Speaker 3: I'm sure you do.
- 47:21Speaker 2: Linda Fairstein was the sex crime DA that handled the
- 47:25Speaker 2: case with those two scumbags that raped my nun. She
- 47:29Speaker 2: handled it. One of the best. And a guy named
- 47:31Speaker 2: Mike Sheen did the investigation, which I spoke to many
- 47:34Speaker 2: times about the case. They were in the park. They
- 47:37Speaker 2: were wiling. They were beating people up. They were robbing people.
- 47:40Speaker 2: But when they beat up that young girl, they left it.
- 47:43Speaker 2: They didn't rape her. Probably one of them couldn't get
- 47:45Speaker 2: a heart on whatever it was. And then little Julio Gonzalez,
- 47:48Speaker 2: whatever his name was, walked along and then he had
- 47:51Speaker 2: a consummation and he raped her and they found the DNA.
- 47:55Speaker 2: And then they give these guys $ 50 billion. The guy's
- 47:58Speaker 2: going to be a councilman. I mean, it's so ridiculous.
- 48:02Speaker 2: So ridiculous. They were not little altar boys in Central
- 48:05Speaker 2: Park having fun that night. Got it. And that pisses
- 48:09Speaker 2: me off. We just give money away. And the biggest problem,
- 48:12Speaker 2: we're up to 100,000 in New York City, 100,000 illegals,
- 48:15Speaker 2: $ 400 a night. The budget was supposed to be, I think,
- 48:19Speaker 2: $ 105 billion with federal money statement. It's going to be
- 48:23Speaker 2: $ 115 million. We're going to have 100,000 free food. They
- 48:26Speaker 2: don't like the food. Then they come here, they get this,
- 48:28Speaker 2: they get free medical. And my poor homeless people have
- 48:32Speaker 2: been on the street for 50, I mean, every year.
- 48:34Speaker 2: We did nothing for them. America first. The people were here.
- 48:39Speaker 2: And my veterans. My veterans. I am a major veteran proponent.
- 48:44Speaker 1: We talked about crime.
- 48:45Speaker 2: That was one more thing I told Trump to his face.
- 48:47Speaker 2: You got some big mouth when you talk against Senator McCain.
- 48:51Speaker 2: You're a draft dodger. You never went in service. McCain
- 48:54Speaker 2: was locked up for seven years. How dare you call
- 48:56Speaker 2: him a loser? He was a veteran. He got mad
- 48:59Speaker 2: at me when I went at him. But you know what?
- 49:01Speaker 2: I stand by that. Every veteran out there, I respect.
- 49:04Speaker 2: I respect cops and especially veterans. Yeah.
- 49:08Speaker 1: As I was going to say, we were talking about
- 49:09Speaker 1: crime within the city. But what are your thoughts about
- 49:13Speaker 1: terrorist attacks on New York. Obviously, we experienced something with 9-11.
- 49:17Speaker 2: I was there.
- 49:21Speaker 1: Tell me where you were doing 9-11.
- 49:22Speaker 2: I was in my office. I wore a suit every day.
- 49:24Speaker 2: I was an iron worker on the World Trade Center.
- 49:27Speaker 2: When it happened, we saw the buildings then implode, and
- 49:31Speaker 2: they weren't built to implode. They didn't have any good
- 49:34Speaker 2: structural steel in the center. That's a whole other story
- 49:37Speaker 2: that I know about. And I also was accused then
- 49:39Speaker 2: because I had a relationship with Saudi Arabia. I used
- 49:41Speaker 2: to do some bodyguard, and I was accused of being in,
- 49:44Speaker 2: I owned a piece of the World War building. I
- 49:46Speaker 2: was accused of firing rockets. Again, another accuser was Bo Deedle,
- 49:51Speaker 2: because they knew I knew the Saudis. I was firing
- 49:53Speaker 2: rockets from the World War building that I owned into
- 49:55Speaker 2: the World Trade Center. I mean, this is all I go.
- 49:57Speaker 2: My whole life is being accused of things that I
- 49:59Speaker 2: don't do. So basically, they came. Now we don't know
- 50:03Speaker 2: what's coming through our southern borders. And if you think
- 50:06Speaker 2: it's not going to happen, they got rid of John Miller.
- 50:09Speaker 2: one of the greatest intelligence guys for the New York
- 50:12Speaker 2: City police. I'm scared shit about another terrorist attack. We're wide,
- 50:17Speaker 2: wide open. Anybody tells you any other thing, I'm full
- 50:20Speaker 2: of crap. It's only a matter of time. And I
- 50:23Speaker 2: was there on 9-11, and we talk about never forgetting,
- 50:27Speaker 2: and I'll never forget. But the problem here is that
- 50:30Speaker 2: we're so vulnerable now. And now you have police officers
- 50:34Speaker 2: that are not getting involved because they don't want to
- 50:36Speaker 2: lose their job. And they give them a big pay
- 50:38Speaker 2: raise to $ 55, 000. You know what a man or a
- 50:41Speaker 2: woman who have three children try to live on for $ 55, 000,
- 50:44Speaker 2: they're eligible for food stamps. And then they want these cops.
- 50:47Speaker 2: Now they want more things. They want them, if you
- 50:50Speaker 2: give somebody directions, they want you to make a report out.
- 50:53Speaker 2: I mean, they beat my cops up so much with
- 50:56Speaker 2: this defund. The budget of the New York City Police Department,
- 51:00Speaker 2: I think, is $ 5. 9 billion dollars. They want to take
- 51:03Speaker 2: a billion dollars out of it. We were at 40,000
- 51:07Speaker 2: police officers. We're down to close to 30. And now
- 51:11Speaker 2: they lowered, you don't even need a high school diploma.
- 51:14Speaker 2: And you have a record. Here's the newest. Here's the
- 51:16Speaker 2: one that's going to knock you off your seat. The
- 51:18Speaker 2: newest proposal is that they will expunge your record and
- 51:23Speaker 2: you can't report it. So when you file something and say,
- 51:25Speaker 2: have you ever been arrested? No. If you have a
- 51:27Speaker 2: misdemeanor in three years, seven years of it's a felony.
- 51:30Speaker 2: That means you got people committing robberies and all, and
- 51:34Speaker 2: their records are going to be a sponge with these
- 51:36Speaker 2: fools in the New York State Senate and the New
- 51:38Speaker 2: York State Assembly. And Governor Hochul, I call her snaggletooth.
- 51:44Speaker 2: She's a little overbite. And I say snaggletooth. You're the governor.
- 51:47Speaker 2: She blames Cuomo. Everybody's blaming everybody. But the bail reform
- 51:51Speaker 2: was the worst thing that ever happened across the country.
- 51:54Speaker 2: Everybody's there. And the George Floyd effect, that was no
- 51:57Speaker 2: altar boy either. He had eight arrests. He beat this
- 52:00Speaker 2: woman up who was pregnant. And you want to know something?
- 52:02Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to see him die. But that should not
- 52:04Speaker 2: have been an excuse to honor him like he was
- 52:07Speaker 2: Pope John or something. Right, right.
- 52:09Speaker 1: So we have to wrap this up because we have
- 52:11Speaker 1: reservations at Rao's. And I'm so honored to have been
- 52:14Speaker 1: invited by you. So I want to say thank you
- 52:16Speaker 1: ahead of time.
- 52:17Speaker 2: You're very pretty. Oh, thank you.
- 52:19Speaker 1: But I do want to ask you– In all the
- 52:23Speaker 1: years since you've had this table, who has been your
- 52:26Speaker 1: most favorite guest at Rayos?
- 52:29Speaker 2: Hands down. I produced a movie called The Bone Collective.
- 52:33Speaker 1: I love that movie.
- 52:34Speaker 2: And it was with Angeline Gillette and the greatest actor
- 52:38Speaker 2: that I feel and greatest human being in the universe,
- 52:42Speaker 2: Denzel Washington. Great father, husband. I spent the week with
- 52:47Speaker 2: him in Turks and Caicos with the prime minister at
- 52:51Speaker 2: his house. I don't like Denzel Washington. I fucking love him.
- 52:57Speaker 2: As a human being, charitable, one of the greatest men,
- 53:02Speaker 2: he is the example of what a man is all about.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Not black, not white, a man. And Denzel, and probably
- 53:10Speaker 2: he came up there half a dozen times with Angeline.
- 53:12Speaker 2: That was great. Then a great one was with Radarhead there,
- 53:15Speaker 2: Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. I mean, all the capitalists,
- 53:19Speaker 2: Jack Welch. Ken Langone. I mean, I've had them all
- 53:21Speaker 2: up there. Every actor. I had, what do you call it,
- 53:24Speaker 2: when she was ready to pop?
- 53:26Speaker 1: Demi.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Demi was ready to pop, number one. And Bruce and
- 53:29Speaker 2: Demi were up there with me. And it just goes on.
- 53:33Speaker 2: Of course, Leo. Leo's the best. But when he comes there,
- 53:37Speaker 2: all the women attack. I love Leo. And he better
- 53:40Speaker 2: call me soon because I'm getting a little pissed off.
- 53:42Speaker 2: Because I'm not a fine-footed friend. I am a friend
- 53:46Speaker 2: when you're up or when you're down. And that's why
- 53:48Speaker 2: I don't like to be used, you know? Right.
- 53:50Speaker 1: Is there one person that is on your bucket list
- 53:53Speaker 1: to come there or to invite that you haven't gotten
- 53:56Speaker 1: there yet?
- 53:57Speaker 2: Yeah. Who? I like to have that little freaking creep
- 54:01Speaker 2: over there from Russia over there. Oh. Putin. I'd like
- 54:05Speaker 2: Putin to be there with me.
- 54:06Speaker 1: To have a nice little conversation?
- 54:07Speaker 2: No, I mean, he understands English, too. I think him
- 54:10Speaker 2: and I would really get on. When I wrote my book,
- 54:13Speaker 2: one of my Russian friends sent it to him, and
- 54:15Speaker 2: he wrote something. about he would like to meet me
- 54:18Speaker 2: one day. And I'd like to sit down with him
- 54:21Speaker 2: and talk to him like guy to guy. Look, you
- 54:24Speaker 2: love young girls? I like young girls. You like power?
- 54:28Speaker 2: I like power. But why would we want to destroy?
- 54:31Speaker 2: Why don't we be together and make our two countries
- 54:33Speaker 2: great together and help each other and help all the
- 54:36Speaker 2: families of all the Russian people and the American people
- 54:39Speaker 2: work together? Bring us together rather than divide us.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Amazing. I love that.
- 54:43Speaker 2: Who'd you think I was going to say? Me. Me. Oh, well,
- 54:46Speaker 2: you're coming.
- 54:48Speaker 1: All right.
- 54:48Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on my show. It's
- 54:52Speaker 1: been such an honor to get to know you.
- 54:53Speaker 2: Well, it's really nice. And we're going to have a
- 54:55Speaker 2: good dinner tonight. And we're going to have some fun.
- 54:58Speaker 2: And we got David. And then we're going to have
- 55:01Speaker 2: a lot of fun tonight. All right.
- 55:02Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 55:02Speaker 2: All right. Thank you very much. Bye.
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- 55:46Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
- 55:49Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
- 55:54Speaker 4: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve
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