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Mark interviews former political consultant Dick Morris. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Well, well, Dick Morris, of course, the great political consultant,
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  Speaker 1: the bolster, best selling author, simolover television radio. And hey,
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  Speaker 1: he's got a new book out. You should get his
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  Speaker 1: new book, which is it is the first book about
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. Dick Morris's new book called The Real Charlie Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: first major book since his death. And he's with us now,
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  Speaker 1: Dick Morris, how you doing good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm great. I want to clarify I'm alive.
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  Speaker 2: See the death referring to his march.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how did you get this book done
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  Speaker 1: so fast? That's pretty good, that's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I actually was working on it for a
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  Speaker 2: while prior to his death, and I worked clearly closely
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  Speaker 2: with him during the Trump campaign, particularly focusing on the
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  Speaker 2: boat of people under the age of thirty and the compass.
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  Speaker 2: You know, got forty six percent of the vote of
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  Speaker 2: people under thirty and previously he got only thirty six percent,
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  Speaker 2: So that ten point game was a big deal. And
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  Speaker 2: I learned a lot about Charlie and about his outreach
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  Speaker 2: and how he how he positions himself. Uh, And it
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  Speaker 2: was a big, a big part of the Trump victory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So here in New York, you know, we see
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  Speaker 1: this crazy young generation. See they're all socialists. They want
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  Speaker 1: mom Johnny. How did you guys find the younger voters
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  Speaker 1: who wanted to go with Republicans and Trump?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but you know, you can't equate New York
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  Speaker 2: City with the rest of the country. Yeah, the the
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  Speaker 2: younger generation in New York is almost neolistic. It's I
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  Speaker 2: think there was it was a kind of I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a kind of rejection of everything that's going on,
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  Speaker 2: and grace of socialism really is an attention getting device
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  Speaker 2: as a method of people of paying attention to them,
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  Speaker 2: And I just think that's very different than the national trends.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout the rest of the country. Young people are becoming
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  Speaker 2: more conservative and Republican. Education and registration amongst both. His
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  Speaker 2: under thirty has increased dramatically. And I can't really account
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  Speaker 2: for why New York is so different, but it is
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  Speaker 2: so different. It's always been and it is. But with Kirk,
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  Speaker 2: I just loved the way he was able to explain
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  Speaker 2: to people that he has confront them directly, not do
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  Speaker 2: a be little of them, not put them down, and
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  Speaker 2: and really hope make great progress.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea of opening up a dialogue on the
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  Speaker 1: college campuses, students, hearing both sides of the issue. This
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  Speaker 1: is what Charlie Kirk did. Isn't this what the universities
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to do. Isn't this what the professor should
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  Speaker 1: have been doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they should. But you know, there was a
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  Speaker 2: Marxist professor, Herbert Marcouley, who said that that the way
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  Speaker 2: to get revolution in the United States would never be
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  Speaker 2: to the working class, but through students. He said that
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  Speaker 2: you need to take what he called a long march
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  Speaker 2: miles through the institutions in the US and converted in
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  Speaker 2: one at a time and moved them to the to
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  Speaker 2: the left. And he began with the Teachers Union, really
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  Speaker 2: making that a left wing left ring polkrim and then
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  Speaker 2: moved from there to the college campuses and then ultimately
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  Speaker 2: those same kids and moved into editorships and corporate boards
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And that's kind of how the
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  Speaker 2: left took over the country instance, and Charlie understood that
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  Speaker 2: and was doing his own long march through the institutions
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  Speaker 2: to turn it around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's one guy up against all these institutions,
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  Speaker 1: and who will continue this movement. Who will continue what
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk did?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the Turning Point is doing that forum
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  Speaker 2: for us. Really, there have been huge numbers of new
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  Speaker 2: campuses organized by Turning Point USA, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at a sort of new institutional arrival on
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  Speaker 2: the scene, and I think that it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: very effective, really affecting the future. We really have not
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  Speaker 2: had a very good viable conservative entity on the political
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  Speaker 2: spectrum representing young people, and Kirk, clearly Charley created that,
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  Speaker 2: and is Weird is perpetuating that very successfully.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Well, everybody get Dick Morris's new book, latest book,
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  Speaker 1: It's called The Real Charlie Kirk, The Real Charlie Kirk
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  Speaker 1: by Dick Morris. Dick Morris, you're still there, yep, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he mayor all race. Over the weekend we saw turnout
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  Speaker 1: five times normal record setting turnout. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: that means?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hope it means that people are coming to
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  Speaker 2: their senses. But the normally the early balloon would tend
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  Speaker 2: to be more liberal, and so we'll see. But I
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  Speaker 2: think that that the theory had been that in a
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  Speaker 2: low turnout race, the left would predominate, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that that I hope that that's not the case, and
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  Speaker 2: I hope that a high turnout going on is people
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  Speaker 2: coming to their senses on MANDAMMI.
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  Speaker 1: Now, did Morris expert consultant, campaign person polster, You've always
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  Speaker 1: said Curtis had a shot, a good shot. You think
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  Speaker 1: that's still the case.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I do. I think until we actually see
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  Speaker 2: how people vote, I think that that certainly is the case. Look,
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  Speaker 2: there's a deep seated animosity that New York is theotory
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  Speaker 2: to Andrew Cromo and stems from his role during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 2: the sexual scandals, the resignation as governor, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that that people are there's kind of an ABC attitude
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  Speaker 2: anybody but Cromo, and I think that that prevents them
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  Speaker 2: from moving to Cromo. You know, Cromo for the last
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  Speaker 2: six weeks has not moved up or down in Nepolan.
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  Speaker 2: He's been twenty eight percent and the same with Mandami
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  Speaker 2: at the fully three and Sliwa has doubled his vote
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  Speaker 2: share since the early September from about ten percent to
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  Speaker 2: about twenty. So he's the only moving piece in this race.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope that movement continues, and I hope that
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  Speaker 2: we really see that when the election day itself was held.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, eight Now that's second debate. Curtis clearly won on issues,
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  Speaker 1: on substance, on content. But some people say Mamdani won
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  Speaker 1: because he didn't hurt himself, there was no real damage
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  Speaker 1: to him, and he got in like five deadly shots
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  Speaker 1: against Cuoma during the debate. Would you would you agree
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  Speaker 1: with that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: But I thought Mandami refused to take positions on a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of eight years, the ballot propositions and other stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that flee work clearly won that debate,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll see the effect that has. There isn't any
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  Speaker 2: really good polling since the debate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I did mars. When you get money to
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  Speaker 1: the campaign, you suddenly raised ten million or whatever, what
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  Speaker 1: is it you do with it? And the old days
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  Speaker 1: was TV commercials. But that's not so effective anymore, is it?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I think I think it is. But in his case,
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's some dark money going on there.
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  Speaker 2: I think that much of the money he's raised has
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  Speaker 2: been from Soros and connected groups, and and I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be surprised if that's being translated directly into payoffs to voters.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to see what happens with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a bad.
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  Speaker 2: Question basically your point, your point, market is right that
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  Speaker 2: money is losing its power in politics. And you see
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  Speaker 2: that when you know Harris out spent from marketly and
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  Speaker 2: there's no way you can find getting the election yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that because of the decreasing power of
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  Speaker 2: network TV, money is not it's not as powerful as
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  Speaker 2: it used to be. Enough politics.
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  Speaker 1: This is a tough question. But percentage chance that Momdannie wins,
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  Speaker 1: what would you say, Oh god, I mean sixty'll win.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's more than fifty. Yeah, unfortunately, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which it warn't, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see everybody get Dick Morris's the election. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, The Real Charlie Kirk, Dick Morris, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. Excellent new book. Thanks take care of
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  Speaker 1: Dick Morris's new book is The Real Charlie Kirk. First
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  Speaker 1: major book on Charlie Kirk since since his death. Hey, uh,
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