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Set 1: Back at the Mecca (w/ Jonathan Macri) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 3: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.
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  Speaker 3: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to eighty. He was
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  Speaker 3: bo wow that Prime Time maybe had a crush on
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  Speaker 3: Betty Rubbell.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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  Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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  Speaker 3: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening just to Godsend Company.
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  Speaker 2: We are just hours away from the biggest game at
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden in the history of games played at
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden. It is Nicks, it is Spurs, it
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  Speaker 2: is Game three of the NBA Finals and the deed
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  Speaker 2: of Nick Film School. God, what a title that is
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  Speaker 2: the dean of Knick's Film School. Jonathan Macree is with us. Macrey,
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  Speaker 2: what a title?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I am jealous. I want your title? I was ask
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  Speaker 2: a Taylor before we started. Are you jealous? Do you
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  Speaker 2: want to be the dean of Knicks Film School? He
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  Speaker 2: said no. I called him a liar. I will tell
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  Speaker 2: you I'm insanely jealous of that title.
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe Taylor when he says no, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want anything to do with it.
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  Speaker 4: No, I believe him. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Coming the title of dean comes with many responsibilities, many
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  Speaker 5: of which are not glamorous. So you know, I'm happy
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  Speaker 5: to I'm happy to do it. Someone's got to do
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  Speaker 5: the job, so might as well be me. But no,
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  Speaker 5: this is this is not for the for the faint
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  Speaker 5: of heart.
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  Speaker 2: Find them wherever you get your podcast on YouTube or
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  Speaker 2: sub stack.
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  Speaker 1: What's the worst part of your job.
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  Speaker 4: Dealing with losses?
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  Speaker 5: Because as much as I may be the dean of
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  Speaker 5: Knicks Film School, I'm a Knicks fan first and foremost.
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  Speaker 5: As I've proven many times over the years, including this one, losses,
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  Speaker 5: tough losses are still brutal for me. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: still at that, you know, the the thirteen year old
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  Speaker 5: kid who like they you know, think back to like
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  Speaker 5: Game one against the Pacers last year, horrendous loss. I'm
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  Speaker 5: feeling that for days, you know. So that part never changes.
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  Speaker 5: But talking about the next that part's fun.
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  Speaker 4: That's easy.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: Maker, You've been doing Knicks Film School now for almost
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  Speaker 6: eight years. You've been a Knicks fan your entire life.
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  Speaker 6: Between now and the last time the Knicks were in
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  Speaker 6: the finals in nineteen ninety nine. What's the furthest away
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  Speaker 6: from this feeling you've ever had?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good one, the furthest away. Yes, that's a
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  Speaker 5: great question. I will say it's gonna be a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of a weird answer, and it's gonna come probably
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  Speaker 5: out of left field.
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  Speaker 1: CJ. Mccolly.
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  Speaker 5: No, because, like, look, I've been really hard on this
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  Speaker 5: team the last couple of years, harder than most fans,
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  Speaker 5: and some fans have certainly let me know about that repeatedly.
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  Speaker 4: But no, this team is good, They're they're well wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Leon Rose has.
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  Speaker 5: Done a fantastic job, you know, Jaylen Bruns and so
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  Speaker 5: on and so forth. No, but like you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think some fans might point to like some terrible Asiah
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  Speaker 5: Thomas trade or or maybe you know something Phil Jackson
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  Speaker 5: did or when kd you know, pick the nets For me,
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  Speaker 5: it was when stories first started to emerge that Christops
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  Speaker 5: porzingis who, if you remember at the time, was like
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  Speaker 5: the prince that was promised before we got Jaylen Brunson.
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  Speaker 4: Uh started the story started to emerge.
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  Speaker 5: That like oh he thinks this organization is a joke
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  Speaker 5: and It's.
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  Speaker 4: Like, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 4: I had to sift.
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  Speaker 5: Through how many years of you know what to get
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  Speaker 5: this guy, and he showed all this promise and now
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  Speaker 5: he wants out and he's been here for what two years?
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  Speaker 5: And so when that stuff started to emerge, I was like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's a phrase a buddy of mine, Bernard,
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  Speaker 5: you know, first kind of introduced to our Knicks group
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  Speaker 5: text the rot is in the walls. And I was
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  Speaker 5: just convinced that, like, there would be nothing that would
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  Speaker 5: ever happen, nothing that ever could happen to this franchise
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  Speaker 5: that would lead to sustainable winning.
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  Speaker 4: That was probably the lowest.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's fast forward to better times. Because we
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  Speaker 2: are hours away from from a big Knicks game.
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  Speaker 1: What are your feelings? What are your emotions?
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  Speaker 2: You are the dean of Knicks Film School, but you're
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  Speaker 2: also the dean of Nick fans, So what are your
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  Speaker 2: feelings here leading up to a big game three at
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  Speaker 2: the Mecca tonight?
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  Speaker 1: What do you going through right now?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'll correct you because I don't know that I
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  Speaker 5: speak for a lot of Knick fans.
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  Speaker 4: And one thing that's kind of been well, the thing.
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  Speaker 5: That's been tough to deal with throughout this whole playoff run.
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  Speaker 5: Is you had a lot of fans that have been
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  Speaker 5: super confident in this team, like basically ever since it
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  Speaker 5: was assembled, certainly throughout the course of the year, and
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  Speaker 5: like once they started rolling, They're like, Oh, We're gonna
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  Speaker 5: win the championship. And I'm the fan that is always
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  Speaker 5: waiting for the bad thing to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Call my guard is always up. I'm always cautious.
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  Speaker 5: So, like, you know, they're up two oh, having won
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  Speaker 5: two road games in the finals, the first two World
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  Speaker 5: games in the final, something only Michael Jordan and the
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  Speaker 5: Keim Elijah Wan has ever done right. And I'm sitting
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  Speaker 5: here and be like, don't lose this game. Don't let
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  Speaker 5: this first back in that series. I think they'll win.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they're they're playing great. I think that.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're the better team. But I'm not sitting
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  Speaker 5: here being like the series is over, like sweep the
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  Speaker 5: whole thing, Like it's one game at a time. I
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  Speaker 5: gotta see him go out there and play good again.
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  Speaker 6: Macrack, Who do you think has more pressure on them
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  Speaker 6: tonight in Game three? The Knicks or the Spurs?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I mean the Spurs. I mean, it's ridiculous. They
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  Speaker 2: can't go down oh three, they can't.
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  Speaker 5: So the obvious answer is the Spurs, right and yet
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  Speaker 5: my favorite two words, uh and yet barring something crazy,
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  Speaker 5: and look, the NBA is where crazy stuff happens.
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  Speaker 4: This Spurs team is going to be here for the
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  Speaker 4: next decade.
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  Speaker 5: I know, second Apron and all that crap, But like
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  Speaker 5: they they'd be crazy to break up this this core,
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  Speaker 5: and specifically Wenby and Harper, who I've I mean, I've
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  Speaker 5: compared them to Shack and Colby, like in terms of
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  Speaker 5: what they could potentially become. So like they and I
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  Speaker 5: think they've already kind of realized like, oh, whoops, we
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  Speaker 5: thought we won the title in the last round, which
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  Speaker 5: I think maybe is partially why they're down to h
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  Speaker 5: right now, to you know, putting aside, I think the
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  Speaker 5: Knicks have played good ball.
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  Speaker 4: So like, yeah, the pressure's on the Spurs.
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  Speaker 5: But like I think even subconsciously, I think they know
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  Speaker 5: they'll be back, you know, and they'll probably be back
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  Speaker 5: multiple times. And I think the Knicks, a team full
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  Speaker 5: of veterans, is smart enough to like look around the league,
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  Speaker 5: look at the fact that it's eight forget eight different champions.
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  Speaker 5: A champion hasn't gone back to the finals in since
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  Speaker 5: the Wars in twenty seventeen, and that was you know.
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  Speaker 4: KD and Step. So I think that I'll be very
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  Speaker 4: curious how the Knicks come out tonight. I think they're
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  Speaker 4: going to be feeling it. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: Uh does the entire city, I mean everybody, Oh, Karl
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  Speaker 2: Anthony towns an apology because I feel like we do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, with all due respect to your apology, my
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  Speaker 5: apology is bigger.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yes, no, Like I was.
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  Speaker 5: So, I had Mike, you know, my on Knicks phone
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  Speaker 5: school podcast several years ago, and he said, gave me
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  Speaker 5: a piece of advice, was like, never never say anything
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  Speaker 5: about a player that you wouldn't say to a player
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  Speaker 5: in person. And he said that to me, and I
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  Speaker 5: always tried to follow that, and boy have I not?
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  Speaker 4: Was I not able to follow? What was Karl Anthony taks.
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  Speaker 5: And like there was like, I mean the fourth game
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  Speaker 5: of the year they lost the Bucks. Yeah, and like
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  Speaker 5: like Kyle Kuzma's physicality, which by the word, by the way,
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  Speaker 5: two words that don't go together.
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Kuzman physicality.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, Kyle Kuzma's physicality was like getting to him and
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  Speaker 5: he was throwing up this nonsense. And I went on
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  Speaker 5: my post game, I'm like, we've been dealing with this,
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  Speaker 5: We like NBA fans, have been dealing with this for
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  Speaker 5: ten years. At some point, it's not about how do
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  Speaker 5: you fully actualize Karl Anthony Towns. It's about Karl Anton
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  Speaker 5: Towns like stepping up to the plate and being the
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  Speaker 5: guy that he was supposed to be when they when
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  Speaker 5: he got drafted eleven years ago.
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  Speaker 4: And that was just one example. I just did not
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  Speaker 4: think he had this in him.
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  Speaker 5: Like we always saw the skills, like multiple sixty point games,
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  Speaker 5: the whole thing, but the defense, the lack of silly
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  Speaker 5: fouls giving his team exactly what they need on both
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  Speaker 5: ends of the floor. I can't I can't remember a
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  Speaker 5: player in all my years watching forget basketball, watching sports
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  Speaker 5: that has like at this point in their career.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like the.
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  Speaker 5: Light bulb went off, right, and that's you know, that's
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  Speaker 5: to me what we're seeing and MACA.
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  Speaker 6: To be fair, this team felt like they had major
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  Speaker 6: question marks as recently as like a few months ago.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I think there's there's almost a disbelief to
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  Speaker 6: this historic run that the Knicks run where you had
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  Speaker 6: question marks about Cat, you had question marks about mckel
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  Speaker 6: bridges to a certain extent, and what they gave up,
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  Speaker 6: and now they're all of a sudden, like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 6: a switch flipped and they're on one of the best
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  Speaker 6: runs we've ever seen from a basketball team.
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  Speaker 4: I like, if you would have watched this team.
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  Speaker 5: At certain games during the after or during and talked
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  Speaker 5: about them after certain games during the year, you would
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  Speaker 5: have bet anything this isn't a contending team, like you
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  Speaker 5: know a contending team when you see it.
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  Speaker 4: At the same time.
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  Speaker 5: Like, again, I don't always follow my own advice, but
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  Speaker 5: something I like to say is that development isn't always linear.
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  Speaker 5: Which is we say that about like young prospects. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's the same goes for a team as well.
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  Speaker 5: So like new coach asked Karl Anton Towns to embody
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  Speaker 5: a new role on offense, Jalen Brunton to a certain extent,
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  Speaker 5: everybody like deepening the bench, the whole thing. And so
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, we all told ourselves as Nick
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  Speaker 5: fans before the year, like, Okay, this is going to
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  Speaker 5: be a roller coaster ride, Like it's not. It's not
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  Speaker 5: going to be like go out and win every game
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  Speaker 5: at all all costs, like it was under TIBs. We
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  Speaker 5: should be prepared for a bumpy ride. And yet they actually.
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  Speaker 4: Won one more right, one more game or two more games, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: it was more more.
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  Speaker 5: Games than last year. And at the same time, it's
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  Speaker 5: still like, as you were watching.
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  Speaker 4: It, you're like, nah, they're you know, they're they're not
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  Speaker 4: we it's it's it's fools gold.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, this was not the same team, and like
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  Speaker 5: credit to them because they've kind of revamped their offense
• 10:01
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, going through Kat and the whole thing,
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  Speaker 5: and they're just like locked in, like you know when
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  Speaker 5: you see a team just like you see. We said
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  Speaker 5: that about them during the regular season, we know when
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  Speaker 5: we don't see it.
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  Speaker 4: Now we know when we see it. And the Knicks
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  Speaker 4: were playing like it.
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  Speaker 1: How long have you been a Knicks fan?
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  Speaker 5: Ninety three ninety four was my first year, so, like
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  Speaker 5: I have vague memories in ninety two ninety three that
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  Speaker 5: ended with the with the Charles Smith unfortunate incident under
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  Speaker 5: the basket there, right, But ninety three ninety four was
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  Speaker 5: my first year as a real fan, and obviously it
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  Speaker 5: went to Game seven of the finals. It was the
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  Speaker 5: first year I was ever really a fan of any
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  Speaker 5: sports team. So they kept winning in the playoffs, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is great being a fan of
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  Speaker 5: a basketball team.
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  Speaker 4: This is super fun. Why doesn't everybody do this?
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  Speaker 5: And then of course it ended with, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: heartbreak that I did not think was possible.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to John Starks.
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  Speaker 5: We love you, John, but you know, two for eighteen
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  Speaker 5: will live rent free in my head until my dying.
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  Speaker 4: Last breath, you know, and so like.
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  Speaker 5: But it was weird because I came in in a
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  Speaker 5: sense at like the high point since seventy three. But
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  Speaker 5: I also came in right when, like, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: recite chapter and verse every heartbreak, you know, eight points
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  Speaker 5: and eight point nine seconds, you know, the finger roll,
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  Speaker 5: the suspensions, even stuff that doesn't get talked about that
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  Speaker 5: much anymore, Like the series they won against the Pacers
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  Speaker 5: in ninety four to make the finals. You know, Reggie
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  Speaker 5: Miller scores twenty five points in the fourth quarter at
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  Speaker 5: Game five of that series, the Pacers come back overcome
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  Speaker 5: a fifteen point differcent to win. I remember, these things
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  Speaker 5: are seared in my brain, and I thought and I
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: thought that they and maybe they always will be right.
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  Speaker 5: But that's I think everybody's different. For me, why this
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  Speaker 5: run like is taking on the meaning of like it's
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  Speaker 5: taking on just so much meaning is because, like I
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  Speaker 5: just I don't want to have to live with all
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  Speaker 5: of that baggage for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 6: Macuri also on this run does it feel better too?
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  Speaker 6: Because I was thinking about it from my perspective where
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  Speaker 6: this team is doing it with a lot of people
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  Speaker 6: that we're overlooked, the Jalen Brunson's, the Josh Hartz who's
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  Speaker 6: a throwing in these trades. Where this run feels better
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  Speaker 6: than if Lebron came to the Knicks and saved the Knicks,
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  Speaker 6: or or KD came in and try to save the Knicks.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
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  Speaker 5: I will just I'm gonna be fully transparent. If the
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  Speaker 5: Knicks ended up winning a championship in an alternate history
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  Speaker 5: where Lebron came or KD, like, I would have enjoyed
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  Speaker 5: the hell out of it. Like, I wouldn't have felt
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  Speaker 5: bad about it. I wouldn't apologize to anywhere very nice,
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  Speaker 5: I mean seriously, but you know, like for me, I
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  Speaker 5: think one of my favorite things about Knicks film school
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  Speaker 5: is when not only I get to like the community
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  Speaker 5: of Knicks fans, but when you feel like fans have
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  Speaker 5: a real connection with the team in a way that
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: goes beyond just a rooting interest. Sure, and like, I
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: don't know to talk to you guys about like the
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: mentality of your average New.
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  Speaker 4: Yorker, Like we are all about you know.
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  Speaker 5: But Boston has the reputation of like, oh, you think
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  Speaker 5: you're better than me.
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  Speaker 4: New York isn't that.
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  Speaker 5: But it's like we are convinced that we will outwork anyone.
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  Speaker 4: That is our calling card. If you're if you have
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  Speaker 4: ever worked in the.
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  Speaker 5: City, it's almost like, give me more impediments to get
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  Speaker 5: around or get over or figure out my way past, and.
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  Speaker 4: That's going to motivate me that much more.
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  Speaker 5: And if you look to a man, everybody on this team,
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  Speaker 5: even coll antone town's first pick in the draft, look
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  Speaker 5: at all he's had to deal with in terms of
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  Speaker 5: criticism of the last.
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  Speaker 4: Decade of his career.
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: You know, to say nothing in macal Bridge is getting
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  Speaker 5: traded by his hometown team on draft night, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Josh Hart following the last pick of the first round,
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  Speaker 5: and then you know, multiple teams not believing in him,
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  Speaker 5: like the Raptors not really wanted to pay Ojan Andob
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: like all the way on down the line, all these
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: guys like Landry Shammitt.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Landry Shammitt.
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  Speaker 5: Non guaranteed contract, Like, can you write this that this
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  Speaker 5: guy's doing this in the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 4: It is not even a guaranteed deal, training camp deal.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy. You really can't rate it.
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  Speaker 2: We have a game for you called One Table. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna play some sound from your show as well. Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Taylor has a question. First, go He's very excited.
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  Speaker 2: This has changed his life.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it has, Yes, So I was gonna I
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  Speaker 6: was gonna set up the sound.
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  Speaker 1: I love.
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  Speaker 6: If I'm not watching the game on TV, or I
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  Speaker 6: need a second screen experience, I watch Knick's film School
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  Speaker 6: The watch alongs STU when Jalen Brunson hits a shot
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  Speaker 6: to go up six in Game one, Yes, nobody encapsulated
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  Speaker 6: what Nick fans felt better than Macery.
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  Speaker 2: So all I want from a watch along is not
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  Speaker 2: Pat McAfee. But what I do want is I want
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  Speaker 2: a Nick fan watching the game the way I'm watching
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  Speaker 2: the game at home and you're telling me he delivers
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  Speaker 2: on this.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's play the sound bruntson on the drive.
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  Speaker 7: Spence underneath puts it up, puts it up.
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  Speaker 4: None ahead.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you do it. One more time. I want
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  Speaker 2: to get that sound one more time. That got me
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  Speaker 2: fired up for the game to the first thing on the.
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  Speaker 7: Drive, Spence underneath puts it up, puts it up.
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  Speaker 2: What was the sound coming out of your mouth when
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Wemby had that wide open elbow jumper to win the game.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, no, sounds good because because I was you know,
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: I was convinced it was going in. I said it
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: after the game on the postgame show. I'm like, I've
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: been a Nick fan for thirty three years. Every every
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: one of those shots against us, right, goes in, goes in.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, you know yeah, And now we did have the
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: on Houston shot.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on, like, look, the Knicks have had
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: great shots in their history.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: I'm mane Houston shot the LJ shot like we've had
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: you know, Brunton, and you know, you want to go
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: back to like Game six against Detroit last year.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: That was probably the biggest shot of history up to
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: that point.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: But the shot against us, you know, it always goes in,
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: and that one didn't.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: And uh, you know, credit to credit to Mitch was
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: some good defense. I guess.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're proud of yourself, though when you hear that soundback,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: are you proud? Embarrassed? What's going on there? Because I don't.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, as listeners though, And I think this is part
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: of why Knicks Film School resonates with people.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Not only you know, we do great coverage.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: When I say we, I mean the people I'm lucky
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: enough to work with, great analysis, the whole thing. But
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: people feel like they know me, they know all of us,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: because they do. I don't hide anything, you know, even
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: including my frustrations and especially my frustrations with this team.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: So yeah, like the notion that I would like tamper
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: it down or try to tamper it down like I
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: was in you know, it's crazy to say this now
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: because the teams are the finals, but I was in
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: tears after they beat Boston last year, you know, after
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Game six, just to be back in the Eastern Conference
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Finals for what was at that time the first time
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: in twenty six years.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah or twenty five years, right, MACREI when I told
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: these guys that Jalen Brunson has changed my life.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: They laughed me out of the room.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: Now I feel like right now I'm kind of having
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: the last laugh. Jalen Brunton has changed your life.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean again, talk about transparency. I do Knicks
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Film School for a living now. Like up until a
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: year ago, I was a New York City public school teacher.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: This was a it was a full time job, but
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: it was ostensively a side gig, you know. I did
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: it nights, weekends and anytime I could beg.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Bar or Steel Like I don't.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to try to sit here and pretend
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: like this all happens for me for Knicks Film School.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: If Jalen Brunson doesn't come to the Knicks like, the
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Knicks would still be probably.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Pretty good like they were there.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: We shout out to the we hear season, Julius Randall,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: the whole thing, but like Jalen Brunson put the Knicks
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: back on the map and just as a fan, like
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: again to go back to like comparing it to all
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: those years when you were a fan, it was always
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: the other team that had that guy, even when we
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: had Mellow and mellow is damn good and like I
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: probably didn't appreciate enough at the time, Like Melo was
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: really great. He wasn't Lebron James and he wasn't Kevin Durant. Now, look,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: is Jalen Brunson the best player in the league. No,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: But in the last five minutes of a close game,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: go find me someone that's better playing today.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You can't because of what you guys were discussing earlier.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: It's not Lebron, it's not you know, it's not one
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: of these big superstars.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It's Jalen Brunton.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: They become become a blue collar team, and it's funny
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: because the experience of this is nationally they become some
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: sort of lovable underdog and all of a sudden, everyone's
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: jumping on the bandwagon and I'm saying, get the hell off.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I don't care about So this is like do you
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: how much do you care about the discourse?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm eddy, yeah, like Peter Scheger, get the hell
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: out of here, you know, I mean, Jesus, I don't look.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's because like I'm now in the business of
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: like more subscribers and more you know listens is like
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: good for us.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Like I'm certainly not going.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: To be like, no, you can't listen to my podcast,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: go away, we don't watch you.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I I'll say this. I there have been.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: People who have been kind enough to reach out over
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: the last few weeks, in particular talking about like, oh,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: you know, I've been with you since like twenty eighteen,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: you know, which is roughly when I started doing this,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: since like I was doing the early versions of post games,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: and I'd be like talking about, like, oh, Mitchell Robinson,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: he covered that pick and roll really nice today.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: The other forty seven minutes and fifty seconds of the
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: game sucked, but we had that one play, you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: in the midst of whatever. That was the seventeen win season.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: And so when I get like, those are the comments
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: that mean the most to me. And there's so many
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: nick fans out there like that, like you know, who
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: have been here the whole time, Like, yeah, that's more
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: meaningful for sure. But like I'm not gonna sit here
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: and be like, no, you can't. You can't get in
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: on this like it, because you know what, if you've
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: been here for the long haul, that's your reward. You
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: know what you get that that's your prize. And if
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: if you're someone that has come in recently, I just
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: can't you know, I'm not in their shoes, so I
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: can't say this definitively, but I doubt that it's the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: same or anywhere close to the same.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Macri how I'm viewing it as bandwagon fans mean you're
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: doing something right. And if the Knicks win a title,
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: I won't care if you weren't there for the Alonzo
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Trier days. I'm gonna be too busy celebrating that damn title.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Man, Alonzo.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: One of my first talk about how far Knicks Film
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Schools come. I had Alonzo Trier's mom on the Knicks
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Film School podcast What back in the day, back when
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I was trying to get literally anyone who had anything to.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Do yes with the Knicks, right, you know.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: And she she was lovely, by the way, but like, yeah, no,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: and let's be prepared if they win this. And I say,
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: if we're sitting here and we're, you know, seven and
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: a half hours from Game three, like series is not
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: over yet, if they win this, you know, I saw
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: someone say this on Twitter the O day. I forget who
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: it was, But like, yeah, everyone's gonna be in love
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: with the Knicks for a while and then the Knicks
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: are going to just be absolutely hated, you know, next season.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: So I'm ready for that too.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Before we get to one table here, does Stephen A.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Smith deserve the credit he wants for the nixt being
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals?
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: God?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: What I have to I have to choose my words
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: carefully when it comes to Stephen A.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I admire Stephen A.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Smith, who has turned himself from you know, a blue
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: collar journalist into the highest paid man in media.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I have never cared about one word that Steven A.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Smith has said.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: He is less relevant to me than a mouse fart
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: in the wind.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: And I mean that completely.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: And to everybody who watches him and loves him and
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: cares about what he says every day. God bless and again,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: God bless him. He's earned it, because if you resonate
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: with people, you resonate with people.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I know. I do not give him any credit.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: If I told you that I can get Stephen A.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Smith to appear in your program tomorrow, would you want him?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah, But but give me give me time to
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: get some sponsorships lined.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Up first, shit, oh man, so listen, Macary, I'm proud
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: of you. That's the exact answer.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You needed to give me. So, and you wouldn't say
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: any of this to his face, right, You'd be like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I would ask him to explain to me why true
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Diehard Nick fans should care about his opinions, and I
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: would be genuinely curious. But I might phrase it a little differently,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: but I would want to know that, Yes, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I would want to know that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, that interview would not last very long.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: No, that's okay, but you're also never getting that interview.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: So yes, well, we'll see what we can do. Are
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you going to the game tonight? Before we get to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: one table, you go into the game?
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: No, no, I don't.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I never go to games, just because we do the
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: live watch along and then I go right into the
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: post game. The last game, I think the last game
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: that I've been to was actually the Dante shot game.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Game two against the Sixers and the twenty four playoffs.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to uh, well, let's get people
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: a sample of what it is they'll be listening to,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: if indeed they choose to listen to you as they're
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: watching the game tonight, I'll play the clip from a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: show one more time again on the brunt and shot.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic, brunts.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: Of I'm a drive Spence underneath puts it up.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You do that for every basket tonight, and I'm telling
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you I'll be glued. Okay, I mean seriously.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: It won't be for every basket though, but if it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: a close game late, okay, we'll get some of that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I forget about it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Let's get to one table. Give me the imaging. Go ahead, guys.
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: There's one table left at the hottest spot in town,
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: and everybody wants it. Who's getting it and who's getting
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: left outside Greatness gets seated.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Everyone else waits. This is one table, all right.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So you're in a restaurant in New York City. You're
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the host of the restaurant. There is one table remaining
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: in your restaurant and in walks at the same exact time,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: separate they're walking in at the same exact time, but
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: they have separate reservations or separate deals trying to get
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: into your restaurant. It is Josh Hart or John Starks
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: who gets the table.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Josh Harton didn't even blink.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Jesus correct, they haven't wont anything yet, but neither the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: John starts.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: I was about say, yeah, Focks and Josh hart have
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: both made it the same distance in the playoffs.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: All right, gott Solly, So Jalen Brunson walks in, Patrick
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Ewing walks in?
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Who gets the table?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing over Jalen bruns Patrick Ewing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Like if you tell a Knicks fan, like, just say
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: the word warrior, every Knicks fan who was brand in
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: the nighties, you can just picture Patrick Ewing's.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: That's you know.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I think I think Jalen Brunston is at his I
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: think he's probably exceeded.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Youing in terms of how good he's playing. Like, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: don't know that you never played like to this level.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: It's close. But yeah, no, I gotta give a de now,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Clyde Fraser walks in.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So it's Fraser or Patrick Ewing?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Clyde seniority, seniority.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Jalen wins two more games, is it Jalen
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: over everyone?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he wins.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Two more games, yes, you know what, only because Clyde
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and Ewing have already had so many great tables in
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: New York City if it was my restaurant, Yes, Jalen.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Gets the reservation over, Okay, this is your restaurant.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Towns walks in. Carmelo Anthony walks in. Who
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: gets the table?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Karl Anthony town Now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: He does, no, But but that's I also wasn't maybe
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: the biggest fellow guy in the world.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Right, okay, but you weren't the biggest Towns guy. Otherwise
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you would have listened to Brain I mean Jesus.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I wasn't. But boys, he.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Won me over in a way that Mellow never did.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, go ahead tell it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Og Anenobie walks in. Alan Houston walks in wax table.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So the Anenobi's in the Houston's.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a really good one. That's the toughest one
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: for me so far, I will say, o j anob
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: all right, I think I didn't og.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: He has He has embodied the selflessness that this team
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: needed to come together.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, yep, very well said, all right, final one for you,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Michale Bridges, Watrell Spretty, Well, both, that's a tough one.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I know, I mean Bridge Jesus, So.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: We all do respect to Patrick Watrell was my favorite
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Nick Crown up right, Yeah, but.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Michale's about to do something Ladrell never did.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: So I mean, if it's if I'm giving away the table.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Like right this afternoon for lunch, yes, I think it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: still Latrell ask me in.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: A week and I think, wait, so for lunch today.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: You're not even happy with yourself for saying that if
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: he comes in for lunch today and what it on
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: thing it would be for the two of them to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: come in to try to have lunch just moments hours
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: before Game three.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Of THEBA Bottoms.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: You're giving it this free well, but if they win
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: tonight and the same two guys come walking in tomorrow morning,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you're giving it to Michale Bridges.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Right, I am nothing if not a fickle dec So, yes,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the B.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And Bridges stands for brunch. We appreciate this very very much. Man,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: check him out the dean of Knicks Film School. Wherever
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you get your podcast on YouTube or substack. That was
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: an abrupt ending to the restaurant right there, Jonathan Macree.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: We appreciate your time, dude, and trot listen, try to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: settle down, try to not get too emotional. Try to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: enjoy the moment, enjoy the day. I know everyone's terrified
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: we're a bit too overconfident, but we are up too
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: ho headed back to the Mecca. So just try to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: soak it all in and enjoy it, man, and just
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: be happy. You'll never have to teach again.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm thankful for that every day. Don't be wrong,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: but yes, I'm gonna I'm trying to soak.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: It all in and I'm gonna try to occupy myself
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: with god knows what over the next What have we
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: got seven hours left?
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: So whish be luck with that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I know the clock is moving so slowly today. All right, buddy,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: we appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon. Good luck tonight,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and look forward to us speaking to you again down
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the road here.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, guys, Thank you so much,