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War Zone LIVE! with Wayne Allyn Root 09-02-26 ft. Lee Elci · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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Speaker 2: Allen Root, raw and unfiltered, but America's favorite conservative rock star,
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Speaker 1: World, Las Vegas. What time is it? It's time for War!
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Speaker 2: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
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Speaker 2: Wayne Allen Root.
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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a.
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Speaker 1: Long, long time since I have been on the air.
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Speaker 1: I am Lee Elsie, the voice of freedom filling in
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Speaker 1: for the one and only Wayne Allen Root. And Wayne
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Speaker 1: off for a couple of days, so I'll be with you.
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Speaker 1: today and tomorrow and a couple days next week. Looking
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Speaker 1: forward to all of that. And again, it's always great
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Speaker 1: to broadcast from one coast to another on all of
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Speaker 1: these great, fantastic, wonderful channels. You can, of course, find
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Speaker 1: it on all of Wayne's links, including his getter and
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Speaker 1: his ex and all of that in between. So thank
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Speaker 1: you for being a part of the program. If you
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Speaker 1: have any questions or you have any comments and you
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Speaker 1: want to join, You can email me, leelciradio at gmail.com.
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Speaker 1: That's L-E-E-L-C-I radio at gmail.com. I have been Wayne's official fill-in. Man,
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Speaker 1: it's got to be closing in on a decade. Do
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Speaker 1: I get like a gold watch or what? A decade
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Speaker 1: would be, I don't know, a wooden clock or something watch?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I get something. I would think I
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Speaker 1: would get some fancy present. I mean, Wayne's rolling around
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Speaker 1: in cash. I mean, how about sharing a little something
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Speaker 1: for the effort? Actually, I don't wear watches, so that
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Speaker 1: wouldn't work. I've never worn a watch in my life.
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Speaker 1: Is that strange? Is that odd? I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: feel like it's a little effeminate. I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: lie to you. That's just me. That's who I am.
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Speaker 1: So I don't wear the watches. But anyway, Wayne will
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Speaker 1: be back certainly next week. Like I said, I'm filling
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Speaker 1: in for him a couple of days and hoping you
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Speaker 1: can stay with us. I have to tell you like
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Speaker 1: a personal story because as I just said, I have
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Speaker 1: been silenced in a sense. And I have to be
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Speaker 1: somewhat careful with what I say. But I have decided
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Speaker 1: to throw my enormous melon head hat in the ring
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Speaker 1: and come out from behind the microphone and run for
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Speaker 1: state senate in Connecticut. Now, I made that decision based
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Speaker 1: on a magnificent quote by Theodore Roosevelt. At least that
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Speaker 1: was a big part of it. And I've probably told
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Speaker 1: the story now about $ 3, 000. 587 times since I decided
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Speaker 1: to run. But it's essentially about coming out and stop
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Speaker 1: being the person that actually critiques the people who are
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Speaker 1: in the fight. Get out there and be part of
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Speaker 1: the fight. And that's what I decided to do. And
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Speaker 1: an opportunity presented itself. And the ownership of the flagship
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Speaker 1: station here for Wayne on the East Coast said, you know,
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Speaker 1: go ahead. Do it. Give it a shot. And then
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Speaker 1: what happened was sort of the opponent for me got
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Speaker 1: all legally on me, got all, you got to come
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Speaker 1: off the air FCC on me. So unfortunately, they're fighting
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Speaker 1: it out legally. But for the immediate short term, I've
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Speaker 1: been off the air for a couple of weeks plus.
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Speaker 1: And it's the longest that I've been off the air
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Speaker 1: since I became a radio talk show host. I've never
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Speaker 1: been off the air for this many days. And, in fact,
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Speaker 1: it was a couple of Mondays ago. It's been two
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Speaker 1: weeks and two and a half weeks I've been off
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Speaker 1: the air. And a couple of Mondays ago, it was
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Speaker 1: the first time in 25 years, over a quarter of
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Speaker 1: a century, that I hadn't had a voice on Monday
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Speaker 1: morning to talk about something. And it was a little, well,
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Speaker 1: it was more than a little. It was incredibly demoralizing.
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Speaker 1: And I was angry, and I am still angry about it.
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Speaker 1: Because I don't understand why my rights as a United
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Speaker 1: States citizen have been altered or trampled on to a
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Speaker 1: certain extent because of the profession that I've chosen. It's
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Speaker 1: not my fault that, you know, we have a platform.
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Speaker 1: We've got our career. We actually have built a platform.
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Speaker 1: So nobody else tells anybody else in any other job
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Speaker 1: that they can't do it. Only people who are in
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Speaker 1: the public eye when it comes to either TV or
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Speaker 1: radio have to bail. or at least have incredible amounts
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Speaker 1: of pressure put on them to come off the air. Now,
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Speaker 1: it was never my intention to come off the air.
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Speaker 1: I thought we had sort of an idea and a
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Speaker 1: deal in place, but that sort of fell apart in
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Speaker 1: a fast fashion. So again, for two weeks plus, I've
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Speaker 1: been off the air. So I am excited to be
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Speaker 1: back on. I'm excited to talk about this. I do
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the beginnings of this, because I
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Speaker 1: think maybe a lot of people out there don't know
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Speaker 1: about it, don't know what actually happens. But, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I wanted to do something good, right? I wanted to
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Speaker 1: actually be a problem solver. And it's because I decided
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Speaker 1: to do something good, something right, and participate in an
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Speaker 1: election process. I've never done this before. I've never run
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Speaker 1: for office. It never was even a thought in my mind.
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Speaker 1: But I figured that that quote, you know, it energized me.
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Speaker 1: It was actually sent to me by someone who has
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Speaker 1: passed away. And he sent it to me about a
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Speaker 1: decade ago. And it sat there and it sort of
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Speaker 1: stood inside of me. And I had thought about it
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Speaker 1: five or six years ago, or even two years ago.
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Speaker 1: I thought about it just never worked out. Ownership never
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Speaker 1: wanted to do that. Now they decided to do it.
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Speaker 1: And of course the Democrats immediately, immediately, literally within days, they,
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Speaker 1: they shut it all down. As soon as I filed
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Speaker 1: within a couple of days, lawyers were talking to lawyers and, uh,
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Speaker 1: due to caution, they decided to take me off. But,
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Speaker 1: you know, when I looked around and I saw what
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Speaker 1: was happening in the country, I realized that sitting on
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Speaker 1: the sidelines, it wasn't good enough. Yes, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have significant influence. There's no question about that. Wayne has
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Speaker 1: significant influence. You know, on this part, in this part
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Speaker 1: of the country, I feel like I have significant influence.
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Speaker 1: You know, those words, I'm in the top 100. I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to brag, but we're in the top 100 talkers.
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Speaker 1: magazine folks for talk radio. So we are making a difference.
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Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, why can't I do more? Right.
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Speaker 1: I have time. I could try to get inside state government,
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Speaker 1: break it apart, bust it up and try to, to
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Speaker 1: fix what's broken. I needed to get in the arena.
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Speaker 1: And I've had access to this microphone for 25 years,
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Speaker 1: 25 years of talking to you and listening to you,
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Speaker 1: building something, building something behind this frequency. And now because
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Speaker 1: I tried to do the right thing, because I tried
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Speaker 1: to step up and get involved and maybe actually shape
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Speaker 1: the future of the country, I've been taken off the air.
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Speaker 1: It's upsetting to me for a second. I didn't lie.
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Speaker 1: I didn't break the law. I didn't hurt anybody. I
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Speaker 1: use my free speech right every single day. And because
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Speaker 1: of that, I'm gone. I acted. I acted up. I
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Speaker 1: spoke up. I decided that 25 years of talking about
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Speaker 1: problems wasn't enough. It was time to try to actually
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Speaker 1: fix them. And I also, you know, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of moving parts to this. Because it's, I'm sort of
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Speaker 1: in this thing because I've never done anything like it before.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen how the sausage is made, right? We
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Speaker 1: talk about how the election process unfolds, and we talk
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Speaker 1: about what we think is right and wrong in the process,
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Speaker 1: but I've never actually been in there. I've never been
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Speaker 1: actually calling the shots in a campaign. Now I'm calling
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Speaker 1: the shots in my own campaign, from the sign size
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Speaker 1: to what color it's going to be, to commercials that
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Speaker 1: are going to go out, to whatever it is. It
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Speaker 1: all runs through me. And I think it's.
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Speaker 5: Value for me to do this, to go through the experience,
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Speaker 5: because then I can come back afterwards and explain to
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Speaker 5: folks that maybe we.
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Speaker 1: Shouldn't critique as much here, or maybe we should critique
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Speaker 1: a little bit more over here. And I'm still wrestling
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Speaker 1: with the idea about free speech. Free speech isn't a
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Speaker 1: talking point. It's not a bumper sticker slogan. It's the
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Speaker 1: foundation for everything that we stand on. And mine has
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Speaker 1: been taken away. I mean, it's the reason you can
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Speaker 1: turn this dial and hear an opinion you disagree with
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Speaker 1: and still get to make up your own mind. That's
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Speaker 1: what free speech is all about. We talked about that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have we talked about that?
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Speaker 1: I mean, with Wayne on my own show. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's without question the number one thing that I try
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Speaker 1: to bring to people's attention. But it's the reason that
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Speaker 1: a citizen, not a career politician, can stand up and say,
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Speaker 1: I want to serve without being shown the door immediately.
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Speaker 1: And when you silence one voice for stepping up and participating,
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Speaker 1: aren't you silencing all of us to a certain extent?
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Speaker 1: You're sending a message, I think, to every single person
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Speaker 1: listening right now that you know your place. Stay quiet.
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Speaker 1: Don't dare to change anything. I dare to change. I
10:19
Speaker 1: put my vocation up for grabs at significant cost, by
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Speaker 1: the way, to me. I'm not going to get into
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Speaker 1: the nitty gritties, but yeah, I'm losing resources. But I
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Speaker 1: refuse to accept the message that I should sit back
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Speaker 1: and be quiet. I mean, I'm never going to be quiet,
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Speaker 1: but you understand, sit back and not be part of
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Speaker 1: the actual process. So I jumped in. And maybe my opponent,
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Speaker 1: maybe Democrats in general are afraid of that message. The
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Speaker 1: message that government has gotten too big, too expensive, too
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Speaker 1: far removed from the people it's supposed to serve. The
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Speaker 1: message that says the answers to our problems aren't found
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Speaker 1: in another program or another agency or another mandate handed down.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's found within us. Decisions that we make.
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Speaker 1: Citizens make. I make. You make. Together we make. It's
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Speaker 1: families making their own choices. It's communities solving their own problems.
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Speaker 1: And that's a big part of my belief system. I
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Speaker 1: believe in personal responsibility, personal accountability. Take responsibility for your
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Speaker 1: own lives instead of waiting for someone in a distant
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Speaker 1: office to solve it for you. That's not a radical idea.
11:45
Speaker 1: That's the idea that this country was actually founded on,
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Speaker 1: smaller government, less interference, more freedoms to live your life,
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Speaker 1: how you see fit, answer your own choices. And that
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Speaker 1: message is dangerous. It's dangerous to people who've built their
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Speaker 1: whole careers on opposing it. And that's what I'm up
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Speaker 1: against in this small little state running for a position
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Speaker 1: 35 other people have. Now, I never wanted to come
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Speaker 1: off the air, never intended to come off the air,
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Speaker 1: but again, lawyers are lawyers, and they do what they do.
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Speaker 1: Win or lose, after the election, I'm back on. Maybe beforehand,
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. We're fighting it out. I don't
12:28
Speaker 1: want to put the station at all in jeopardy. Never do.
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Speaker 1: Ownership has been fantastic to me, so I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to do that. So I have to make sure I
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Speaker 1: watch my P's and Q's, at least for the immediate future.
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Speaker 1: But to me, this is actually a message about free speech.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a doctor and you see 100
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Speaker 1: patients a day or 50 patients a day, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: what do doctors see, like 50? Yeah, 50 patients a
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Speaker 1: day probably. 15-minute clips, right? That's what doctors are seeing
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Speaker 1: in patients nowadays. And you're running for office? Are you
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Speaker 1: telling me those doctors aren't talking to their patients? It
13:09
Speaker 1: seems like they would be. I would think they would.
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Speaker 1: But the message that people like me and Wayne and
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Speaker 1: others who have a microphone, a conservative microphone, it's dangerous.
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Speaker 1: And they certainly don't want these two worlds to collide.
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Speaker 1: Because if we've got an army of folks who have
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Speaker 1: this kind of a mindset to tip over the table
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Speaker 1: and sort of get us back to the actual founding
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Speaker 1: father foundations, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and all
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Speaker 1: that comes along with that, I mean, you know... This
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Speaker 1: country has greatness in it. It still does. And it's
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Speaker 1: still the greatest country in the world. But the message that, again,
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Speaker 1: people like me and Wayne throw out there, it's dangerous.
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Speaker 1: And people will spend their entire careers trying to oppose it.
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Speaker 1: And they do spend their entire careers trying to oppose it.
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Speaker 1: And there are people in these parties, I mean, in particular,
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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, who they're lifetime agents of deception. They
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Speaker 1: want to come across as being holier than thou. They're not.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing, it's funny, as I'm watching this again
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Speaker 1: from a much more up-close vantage point, there is, just
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Speaker 1: to give you an example, so the opponent that I'm
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Speaker 1: running against has Very, I mean, not a lot of likability.
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Speaker 1: It really has not been the favorite of a lot
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Speaker 1: of different people, but it looked like there wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to be much of an opponent for this person. And
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Speaker 1: then I came along, and we announced very late, right?
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Speaker 1: Got to the last person to get into the race.
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Speaker 1: And not to spare you the gory details about fundraising
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Speaker 1: and all that, but we're in and everything's moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Everything's going as planned. But all of a sudden, here
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Speaker 1: in the state of Connecticut, now, in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of days, because now this particular candidate feels the pressure
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Speaker 1: of somebody who's got a certain level of popularity built in,
15:26
Speaker 1: now the governor was in town the other day. And
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Speaker 1: they found over half a million dollars to finish this
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Speaker 1: playground for They call it a miracle playground. It's a
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Speaker 1: wonderful idea. I mean, kids of special needs, they can
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Speaker 1: play on a field. The diamond is great. I love it.
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Speaker 1: I actually had been part of raising money for this
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Speaker 1: field a number of times in the past. They just
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Speaker 1: never could raise enough money. So all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: out of the sky drops a half a million plus dollars,
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Speaker 1: and the governor gives it to my opponent to make
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Speaker 1: it look like this particular person had done wonderful things
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Speaker 1: when they really had not. So it's dirty politics. But
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Speaker 1: I get a chance to see now how all of
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Speaker 1: the moving pieces in this chess match actually, you know,
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Speaker 1: come to bear. And it's really, in some cases, worse
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Speaker 1: than you could have ever imagined. It's really bad, right? So,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's part of the reason why, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the major reason why I'm throwing my hat in the
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Speaker 1: ring is because I really do want to do good
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Speaker 1: from the inside out. I don't see myself doing, you know,
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Speaker 1: the political thing for a very long time, but I
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Speaker 1: do like the idea of getting in and busting things
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Speaker 1: up and maybe getting out. But just to see how
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Speaker 1: things are working from a different vantage point is the
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Speaker 1: information that I'm gleaning is going to be great for
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Speaker 1: radio when it's all said and done. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: you silence me. You take me off the air for
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Speaker 1: two-plus months. You know, ideas then are silenced. But eventually,
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Speaker 1: I can promise you, we'll be back full-time one way
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Speaker 1: or another. We're shooting for earlier. We're hoping for earlier.
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Speaker 1: We're fighting for earlier. We're fighting to get back as
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Speaker 1: soon as humanly possible. But, again, it is a work
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Speaker 1: in progress. I know I was covering a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of different things. But, anyway, that's where we are on
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Speaker 1: the onset. So, you know, Wayne, again, is off. You
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Speaker 1: can find him or this show on all these different outlets.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're watching me right now, you've found
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Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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Speaker 4: This is the War Zone.
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Speaker 1: My name is Lee Elsie filling in for Wayne Allen Root.
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Speaker 1: And again, we are waiting for our friends from the
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23:50
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23:53
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24:01
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Speaker 1: all these different locations, including the Gateway Pundit, number one
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Speaker 1: place to go for that. Others, Wayne's Getter, Wayne's X, and, again,
24:14
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of places you can find us. You know,
24:16
Speaker 1: I know Wayne wrote a piece the other day about
24:21
Speaker 1: some of the things that are happening in the country,
24:24
Speaker 1: and I thought it was an interesting piece. I sort
24:27
Speaker 1: of want to echo some of it. And I wanted
24:29
Speaker 1: to start with the affordability crisis in the United States
24:33
Speaker 1: and what caused it, who caused it, some of the
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Speaker 1: narratives surrounding it. The media narrative right now is that
24:41
Speaker 1: the affordability crisis is being blamed on Donald Trump. Now,
24:45
Speaker 1: there's no question that the high price of gas right
24:48
Speaker 1: now is clearly a direct result of what's going on
24:53
Speaker 1: in Iran. No question about that. But Let's be honest,
24:57
Speaker 1: the high price, the inflationary scenario was started during Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden's reign. And when Biden was the president, inflation topped
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Speaker 1: out at 9%, and it never really came all the
25:11
Speaker 1: way down. And it's gaslighting to say that it's Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's fault. It was, listen, that's just not a fact.
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Speaker 1: Working in middle-class Americans... They understand that the price of
25:27
Speaker 1: goods and services are too high. But that was born
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Speaker 1: from Joe Biden. Now, what do we do, by the way,
25:33
Speaker 1: about returning those prices to normal? Unfortunately, they almost never
25:40
Speaker 1: come down, right? They almost never come back. It's not
25:44
Speaker 1: like you're going to get Cheerios again for $ 1. 99 a box.
25:47
Speaker 1: It's not happening. But you can at least stabilize them
25:53
Speaker 1: and return your life to some sort of normal scenario.
25:56
Speaker 1: But we are living in– let me get into this
26:02
Speaker 1: because this is important. I think we need to get
26:03
Speaker 1: into this. We don't have efficiency. We don't have accountability
26:11
Speaker 1: in government spending. And that's a problem with all facets
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Speaker 1: of government. Everybody's to blame when it comes to that.
26:19
Speaker 1: And in talking about that, we have to eliminate systemic waste.
26:26
Speaker 1: We have to eliminate redundant programs. We have to eliminate
26:30
Speaker 1: bureaucratic bloat. And when Donald Trump talks about the swamp,
26:36
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, right? Or when he used
26:38
Speaker 1: to talk about the swamp. The swamp was sort of
26:42
Speaker 1: these creatures who were unelected and, you know, they made
26:46
Speaker 1: buckets of money in the in the shadows and the
26:49
Speaker 1: darker night. And that still is going on, unfortunately. And
26:52
Speaker 1: that's something that, that has to be rectified, but I'm
26:56
Speaker 1: a firm believer that we could reverse this ugly trend of,
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Speaker 1: of chaos. If we just like Doge was potentially an
27:08
Speaker 1: amazing attribute that we could have, we could have hung
27:12
Speaker 1: on to, if we could have, you know, sort of
27:15
Speaker 1: seen that through and, and, basically put it on steroids.
27:21
Speaker 1: And really, if we were able to, we'd talk about maybe,
27:25
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Elon talked about a trillion dollars
27:28
Speaker 1: in savings. And as you look back at that, maybe
27:31
Speaker 1: that was unrealistic. But even half of that, if you
27:35
Speaker 1: could get half of that in savings in 10 years
27:38
Speaker 1: and then through attrition figure out a way to shrink
27:42
Speaker 1: the entire size of government, that is what we have
27:45
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do. if we want to
27:49
Speaker 1: rebuild the economic power, the entire world is in massive
27:56
Speaker 1: amounts of debt. But there's no reason for us to
27:59
Speaker 1: be in $ 40 trillion of debt. We spend our money recklessly.
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Speaker 1: We've been doing that since 2000. We've been doing that forever,
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Speaker 1: but in steroids since 2000. And I think that we
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Speaker 1: no longer have deficit Hawks in Washington. We no longer
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Speaker 1: have people who are fiscally sound because as I've said before,
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Speaker 1: over and over and over again, and again, I know
28:25
Speaker 1: it sounds a little redundant, but what ends up happening
28:27
Speaker 1: is people want to get elected and you can't get,
28:30
Speaker 1: you can't get elected by telling somebody you're not going
28:33
Speaker 1: to give them a high screen or high, high def
28:37
Speaker 1: scoreboard for their high school team or, or, Again, new
28:40
Speaker 1: track for their high school team or a swimming pool
28:43
Speaker 1: or some spacious park. You can't give away the goodies.
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Speaker 1: That has to stop. And for some reason, we haven't
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Speaker 1: gotten to the point where we are accepting of that.
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Speaker 1: And that's what we have to do as citizens. And
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Speaker 1: I had talked about that before. It's really time. In JFK,
29:06
Speaker 1: the most simple quote ever, which is ask not what
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Speaker 1: your country can do for you, ask what you can
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Speaker 1: do for your country, couldn't be more true. It just
29:13
Speaker 1: couldn't be more true when you think about it. How
29:17
Speaker 1: do you want to stop the bleeding in the United States?
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Speaker 1: How do you want to curtail inflation? How do you
29:23
Speaker 1: want to slow down the massive amounts of debt that
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Speaker 1: we have? How do you want to return prices to
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Speaker 1: a more stable, fixed scenario? Well, you do it by
29:34
Speaker 1: not wrecking the purchasing power of the dollar. And how
29:39
Speaker 1: do you not wreck the purchase? power of the dollar
29:41
Speaker 1: you stop spending so much or stop printing so much
29:43
Speaker 1: start creating so much out of thin air i mean
29:47
Speaker 1: that's really basic economics 101 when you make the dollar
29:56
Speaker 1: less valuable the price of goods and services are going
30:00
Speaker 1: to be higher. How do you stop that? Stop doing that.
30:03
Speaker 1: How do you stop doing that? Well, you stop creating
30:04
Speaker 1: these programs. Or at the very least, you get in
30:07
Speaker 1: there and you take the programs that exist and work,
30:12
Speaker 1: and if they're in double and triple, you know, triplicates,
30:15
Speaker 1: you get rid of those. And the problem is you
30:20
Speaker 1: have this just giant conglomerate of like a big giant,
30:27
Speaker 1: like the government's like a blob. And it just keeps growing.
30:32
Speaker 1: And people keep on, you know, using it to, well,
30:38
Speaker 1: the amount of people that work for the federal government is,
30:40
Speaker 1: it's enormous. It's bigger than it's ever been. And it
30:43
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. And I was thinking about this too the
30:45
Speaker 1: other day, is that with the advancement of AI and technologies,
30:52
Speaker 1: we should actually have, you know, we should really have
30:56
Speaker 1: an overall concerted effort to drastically shrink the size of government.
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Speaker 1: We don't need this many people working for Uncle Sam
31:05
Speaker 1: because AI or technology can do now a lion's share
31:10
Speaker 1: of the work. So why are we continuing to throw
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Speaker 1: so much money at that? Anyway, that's something that I
31:20
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw out there. But if you look
31:24
Speaker 1: at some of the reasons why We have had such
31:29
Speaker 1: an explosion of issues here, at least since Joe Biden
31:32
Speaker 1: was president. To me, it's really simple. The mass illegal
31:36
Speaker 1: immigration that came through the southern border since 2020, and
31:41
Speaker 1: Donald Trump stopped it in its tracks, which is probably
31:44
Speaker 1: the most effective thing that he's done since becoming president.
31:48
Speaker 1: I mean, there are other things that he's done that
31:51
Speaker 1: has been great as well. But I mean, shutting down
31:53
Speaker 1: the southern border, without question is probably the thing that
31:56
Speaker 1: he has done the most and was the most needed.
32:01
Speaker 1: But 50, I mean, you want to talk about 15 million,
32:04
Speaker 1: maybe illegal aliens came across the Southern border. And there
32:09
Speaker 1: are probably somewhere around 50 to 60 million here in
32:12
Speaker 1: the country right now. And you know, what's funny is
32:15
Speaker 1: everyone talks to me about, but don't talk about illegal
32:18
Speaker 1: immigration because nobody really cares about that anymore. Everybody feels
32:21
Speaker 1: like the ICE agents are treating these people too harshly,
32:24
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. And I keep telling everybody, listen,
32:27
Speaker 1: part of the reason why we're upside down is because
32:32
Speaker 1: there are so many folks here who are bending the
32:35
Speaker 1: rules and bending the system. And I wrote a column
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Speaker 1: about this, I don't know, about a year ago, not
32:41
Speaker 1: quite a year ago. And I don't know if I've
32:44
Speaker 1: talked about it here on Wayne's show, but I'll talk
32:46
Speaker 1: about it really quick one more time. Even a family...
32:51
Speaker 1: That comes here. Let's come here from you pick a country.
32:54
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Ecuador, whatever. And they come here. It's a
32:58
Speaker 1: mother and a father, a couple of kids. And somehow
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Speaker 1: they're able to navigate their way, you know, through the
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Speaker 1: southern border and, you know, get sent someplace by Joe.
33:07
Speaker 1: Let's say they got here and they got sent someplace
33:09
Speaker 1: by Joe Biden. And let's say it's Connecticut, my home state.
33:13
Speaker 1: And they get here. And. Now they're. You know, they're
33:19
Speaker 1: setting up shop. They need a place to live, so
33:21
Speaker 1: there's probably going to be some kind of subsidy that
33:24
Speaker 1: goes their way, but they need a place to live,
33:26
Speaker 1: and they need to work. Well, let's say this guy's
33:30
Speaker 1: a roofer, for argument's sake. Well, chances are he doesn't
33:34
Speaker 1: have a Social Security number. And if he's here, he's
33:40
Speaker 1: either going to have to break the law again by
33:42
Speaker 1: going out and purchasing a fraudulent Social Security number, or
33:46
Speaker 1: he's going to have to work for cash. I'm not
33:49
Speaker 1: talking about green card holders. I'm not talking about amnesty
33:51
Speaker 1: folks or talking about asylum people. I'm just talking about
33:53
Speaker 1: somebody who came across the border, which, again, we're talking
33:56
Speaker 1: probably 10 million people between 2020 and 2024. Now, everyone
34:01
Speaker 1: talks about how they're a value to the community. And
34:05
Speaker 1: as I've said to you a thousand times, my grandparents
34:09
Speaker 1: were immigrants, right? My grandmother and grandfather didn't speak any English.
34:13
Speaker 1: They broke in English until the day I died. So,
34:15
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just, I get it. People come here
34:18
Speaker 1: for a better life, but there's a process and there's
34:20
Speaker 1: a way to do it. So now you've got this family,
34:25
Speaker 1: and the father goes out and he's a roofer, and
34:27
Speaker 1: let's say roofers get $ 25 an hour. Well, he's not
34:31
Speaker 1: going to get $ 25 an hour because he doesn't have
34:33
Speaker 1: any paperwork. And they're not going to pay him that.
34:36
Speaker 1: So let's say they pay him $ 15. Now he's undercutting
34:38
Speaker 1: other workers. So now there's somebody in the community of
34:42
Speaker 1: Connecticut that doesn't have a job because of this guy.
34:45
Speaker 1: So that person is now out looking for work, and
34:48
Speaker 1: now you've got depressed wages. And this guy's not paying
34:52
Speaker 1: any taxes, so there's no income tax. Now, he may
34:56
Speaker 1: go out and purchase food or stuff, and he's going
35:00
Speaker 1: to pay sales tax, but he's not paying income tax.
35:03
Speaker 1: He's not paying federal income tax or state income tax.
35:05
Speaker 1: So that money is his. That money's lost. He's driving
35:07
Speaker 1: on the roads. His kids are going to school, right?
35:10
Speaker 1: He's got two kids. Let's say they're going to school.
35:12
Speaker 1: In Connecticut, it's $ 25, 000 a year to go to school.
35:15
Speaker 1: So he's already taken $ 50, 000 out of my pocket and
35:19
Speaker 1: your pocket for education. So they're never going to equal
35:26
Speaker 1: each other. And I haven't even touched on the idea
35:29
Speaker 1: of what happens if the guy breaks his foot, breaks
35:33
Speaker 1: his leg. Got to go to the emergency room. He
35:36
Speaker 1: doesn't have insurance. They're going to treat him. They're not
35:38
Speaker 1: going to let him hobble out of there with a
35:40
Speaker 1: broken bone coming out of his leg. So they're going
35:42
Speaker 1: to fix him. And if that bill's $ 80, 000, he's not
35:46
Speaker 1: paying that. You know, he's going out on crutches, and
35:49
Speaker 1: he's disappearing into the shadows. No one's going to throw
35:52
Speaker 1: him in jail. He's just not going to pay. So
35:55
Speaker 1: that burden comes on me and you. So you've got
35:59
Speaker 1: a depressed workforce. You've got, you know, everything, even in
36:06
Speaker 1: the most perfect situation, even if they're a wonderful family,
36:10
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that they're not, Even if there's
36:13
Speaker 1: no crime whatsoever other than the idea that possibly he
36:17
Speaker 1: is not only getting paid in cash, but maybe they're
36:19
Speaker 1: using a fake ID. Those are crimes. Yes, I get it.
36:22
Speaker 1: But I'm not even talking about somebody who's doing violent crime.
36:25
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about somebody who's living in your community.
36:28
Speaker 1: And everybody talks about, well, these people are living amongst us.
36:30
Speaker 1: But they're either living amongst you breaking multiple crimes or
36:37
Speaker 1: they're They are living amongst you, breaking multiple crimes, and
36:42
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Speaker 3: All right, Wayne Allen Root, joining me is Silvano DiGenova,
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Speaker 1: It's great to have you with us.
38:20
Speaker 3: How do you see the economy and inflation moving in
38:22
Speaker 3: the near future?
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Speaker 8: Well, nothing's really changed. We're in an inflationary environment. The
38:29
Speaker 8: government deficits are through the roof. The reality is that
38:35
Speaker 8: oil prices may come down, but inflation is going to
38:38
Speaker 8: be with us long term.
38:41
Speaker 6: How does inflation impact the demand for gold and silver?
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Speaker 8: Well, the more inflation there is, the more demand there's
38:50
Speaker 8: going to be for gold. People want to get away
38:52
Speaker 8: from their paper assets. They want to hold something that
38:55
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38:59
Speaker 8: inflationary times. And gold and hard assets are the only
39:03
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39:07
Speaker 8: of inflation. And the reality is we may still have
39:11
Speaker 8: rampant inflation. And we saw that under a different administration.
39:17
Speaker 8: And this one's doing OK to try and buckle it down.
39:21
Speaker 8: But long term, government spending is not going to stop.
39:25
Speaker 8: World government spending is not going to stop. And that's
39:28
Speaker 8: going to be good for gold. and hard assets into
39:32
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39:34
Speaker 3: And world debt is not going to stop. And America's
39:36
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39:39
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39:42
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39:46
Speaker 8: Well, they certainly don't want to buy products that trade
39:50
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39:57
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40:06
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40:14
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40:26
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40:31
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40:35
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40:39
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43:26
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43:28
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
43:30
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
43:32
Speaker 1: All right, so what did we train today at the gym? Well,
43:35
Speaker 1: I came from the gym, too. What did you train today?
43:38
Speaker 4: I was doing a little stair climbing. I'm getting ready
43:40
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43:44
Speaker 1: All right, all good.
43:46
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43:50
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43:52
Speaker 1: Well, they tell me the same thing, man. They tell
43:53
Speaker 1: me the same thing. Trust me. All right. You got
43:55
Speaker 1: a piece out how the drug lords learned drone war
43:59
Speaker 1: in the Ukraine. And I want to get into a
44:01
Speaker 1: little bit. But how solid is the evidence that the
44:04
Speaker 1: Mexican and Columbia cartel linked fighters actually embedded in Ukraine's
44:10
Speaker 1: international legion to learn these drone tactics? How confident are
44:15
Speaker 1: you in that?
44:17
Speaker 4: I'm very confident. I'm convinced, you know, the reporting is good.
44:22
Speaker 4: The Financial Times of London just had reporters on the ground.
44:25
Speaker 4: They put a big investigative piece together. They interviewed. They
44:30
Speaker 4: found Colombians there. They interviewed all the people in the
44:34
Speaker 4: units that were saying, yeah, they're here or here. So,
44:39
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what else to do. I mean,
44:43
Speaker 4: you don't have a lot of American media down there.
44:46
Speaker 4: just mainly European outlets.
44:50
Speaker 1: How surprised are you? I mean, when we first started
44:53
Speaker 1: seeing some of this footage in the beginning of this war,
44:56
Speaker 1: at least Ukraine war, you know, you're talking about these
44:59
Speaker 1: homemade drones, how much impact could they have? But that
45:02
Speaker 1: this literally has, has caused Russia. I mean, this is
45:07
Speaker 1: the drone scenario has been the reason why Russia is
45:10
Speaker 1: in a, in a quagmire here, isn't it?
45:14
Speaker 4: Yeah. War as we, have always known it is over.
45:18
Speaker 4: It's a whole new era with self-propelled, directed drones of
45:26
Speaker 4: all different kinds. They've got little tanks that run around.
45:31
Speaker 4: But the ones in the air are the ones that
45:34
Speaker 4: have really turned the tide of the war between Russia
45:37
Speaker 4: and Ukraine because these things can penetrate well into enemy lines,
45:43
Speaker 4: well behind enemy lines. They can do all kinds of
45:46
Speaker 4: extraordinary things, and they're very difficult to block and jam.
45:51
Speaker 4: And if our enemies now have them, that's a real concern.
45:55
Speaker 4: And our enemies do apparently have them now in Mexico.
45:59
Speaker 4: And we are at war with the Mexican cartels, whether
46:03
Speaker 4: anybody wants to declare it officially or not. Trump administration
46:08
Speaker 4: has a major counter cartel campaign underway. It has for
46:12
Speaker 4: about a year now.
46:14
Speaker 1: Again, we're talking with Todd Benzman. I probably jumped the
46:17
Speaker 1: gun here a little bit, so maybe you can give
46:20
Speaker 1: everybody the 30,000-foot view of what the column is all about.
46:23
Speaker 1: I kind of jumped into it. Maybe you can give
46:25
Speaker 1: everybody sort of a baseline for what we're talking about today.
46:28
Speaker 4: That's all right. The column is at the American mind.
46:34
Speaker 4: The American mind. And what we're really talking about here
46:40
Speaker 4: is the infiltration of of Mexican cartels, operatives, and Colombian
46:47
Speaker 4: cartel operatives at least, into the International Legion of the
46:54
Speaker 4: Ukrainian Armed Forces. That's the volunteer brigades, so to speak.
47:01
Speaker 4: And in particular, the drone units that run drones and
47:07
Speaker 4: train soldiers for drone combat. And they have made their
47:12
Speaker 4: way into those units on the battlefield. So they're getting
47:17
Speaker 4: real time battlefield training with the most cutting edge, innovative,
47:24
Speaker 4: technologically advanced drone war fighters in the world. So they're
47:32
Speaker 4: infiltrating in and then they're exfiltrating that knowledge out into
47:39
Speaker 4: the Mexican theater where they're apparently using this technology now
47:45
Speaker 4: to attack Mexican forces and attack Mexican politicians so far.
47:53
Speaker 4: And the same goes for Colombia. The Financial Times quoted
47:57
Speaker 4: the defense minister for the country of Colombia saying, we
48:04
Speaker 4: don't control our airspace anymore. And we're at grave risk
48:08
Speaker 4: all the time from these drone attacks now that we
48:12
Speaker 4: haven't seen ever before. So it looks like it's already
48:18
Speaker 4: kind of transitioning into those theaters. And the American people
48:23
Speaker 4: should care about this because we have our people down
48:26
Speaker 4: there all over the place. We all have heard about
48:28
Speaker 4: the boat bombings of the drug boats, for example. That's
48:32
Speaker 4: just one example. We're all over down there.
48:35
Speaker 3: Right.
48:36
Speaker 1: You know, you said that the Ukrainians have the most
48:39
Speaker 1: advanced technology when it comes to drones. I mean, I've
48:43
Speaker 1: always been under the impression that there was a lot
48:49
Speaker 1: of homemade stuff that they were putting together. Has that
48:51
Speaker 1: changed recently? Do they have the reach to go out
48:56
Speaker 1: and get a more sophisticated sort of drone weaponry, air force,
49:02
Speaker 1: if you will, to actually fight the Russians? Has that changed?
49:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, my understanding is that just through, necessity is the
49:11
Speaker 4: mother of invention, they say. So if you're at war
49:14
Speaker 4: fighting for your existence, you're going to make things happen.
49:20
Speaker 4: happen that you would not maybe ordinarily happen at a
49:23
Speaker 4: speed and pace and at a trajectory of perfecting tech
49:33
Speaker 4: that you might not have had if you were not
49:34
Speaker 4: in an existential battle situation so My understanding is that,
49:40
Speaker 4: you know, by force of need, that they have put
49:46
Speaker 4: together very sophisticated tactics and tech for these first-person, they
49:53
Speaker 4: call it first-person view, drones that are sort of resistant
49:59
Speaker 4: to jamming and have developed tactics, like unusual tactics, first-time-ever tactics,
50:09
Speaker 4: One where you can land a swarm of these things
50:13
Speaker 4: and have them just kind of fluttering on a massive
50:16
Speaker 4: field of battle until a tank rolls in, and then
50:22
Speaker 4: they all jump up and blow the tank up, right?
50:26
Speaker 1: That sort of thing. They hold ground.
50:29
Speaker 4: So it sounds pretty sophisticated to me, although there are
50:33
Speaker 4: probably minds greater than mine about that stuff.
50:36
Speaker 1: And the price of these drones, comparatively speaking to what
50:38
Speaker 1: they're destroying, it's a fraction of it, right? I mean,
50:40
Speaker 1: we're talking about a tank that's, who knows, a billion,
50:43
Speaker 1: you know, half a billion dollars. And these drones can
50:46
Speaker 1: cost in the thousands in some cases, right?
50:49
Speaker 4: That's right. They're cheap. They're easy to assemble. They've got,
50:55
Speaker 4: you know, assembly plants and, you know, they're putting them together.
50:58
Speaker 4: They've got expertise. The Colombians and Mexicans are figuring out
51:03
Speaker 4: how to bring it home. And apparently they have figured
51:07
Speaker 4: out it may be too late to stop that transfer
51:10
Speaker 4: of knowledge. But the one good piece of news is
51:15
Speaker 4: that I'm unaware of a single instance yet where an
51:19
Speaker 4: American soldier or intelligence operative down there has been harmed
51:25
Speaker 4: so far.
51:26
Speaker 1: Right. So how are they getting into... the Ukrainian space?
51:33
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they posing as soldiers? I mean,
51:36
Speaker 1: are they going through security firms, smuggling routes? How are
51:40
Speaker 1: they getting in? And then are they running around with
51:42
Speaker 1: the soldiers? How are they learning this stuff?
51:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you have to remember that the Ukrainians are
51:49
Speaker 4: very short of personnel. They're desperate for manpower. So they've
51:55
Speaker 4: opened up their forces to international volunteers. And people have
52:00
Speaker 4: actually come to fill these brigades from all over the world.
52:04
Speaker 4: And people who are anti-Russian or adventurers or mercenaries or whatever,
52:08
Speaker 4: they're volunteers. And the way the Mexicans and the Colombians
52:12
Speaker 4: got in is because I guess we have already alerted
52:17
Speaker 4: the Ukrainians. We don't want these guys learning this stuff.
52:21
Speaker 4: So try to filter them out is that they have used, uh,
52:28
Speaker 4: so-called security firms in Colombia, security companies that are tied
52:33
Speaker 4: to the cartels that finance their travel, fraudulent documents, bring
52:40
Speaker 4: them into Poland or Bulgaria, and then smuggle them in
52:44
Speaker 4: overland to avoid border guards and too much checking of papers.
52:50
Speaker 4: And then they get into the brigade and they've got
52:53
Speaker 4: a cover story and they make their supposedly drone-obsessed, obsessed
53:00
Speaker 4: with drones. They all want to go to the drone program,
53:03
Speaker 4: and they move their way over to the drone program.
53:05
Speaker 4: Nobody's really watching. They're happy to have frontline combat people,
53:11
Speaker 4: and that's how it's been going on. Now, we thought
53:15
Speaker 4: that maybe the Ukrainians had cleansed their brigades of these
53:22
Speaker 4: particular Spanish speakers, but That was a year ago. It's
53:27
Speaker 4: been a year, and then the Financial Times came out
53:31
Speaker 4: in the first week of August with a big story
53:36
Speaker 4: about they're still there.
53:38
Speaker 1: So they get in, they learn the skill, the craft,
53:42
Speaker 1: and then how do they get out?
53:46
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how they get out. I suppose they
53:48
Speaker 4: just decide, well, because they are volunteers, so they're not conscripts.
53:54
Speaker 4: So I think if you're a volunteer, you can kind
53:56
Speaker 4: of leave it whatever you want. And they take off
54:01
Speaker 4: and head back to their cartel with all this knowledge.
54:05
Speaker 4: By the way, when you go through a Ukrainian military
54:10
Speaker 4: drone program, you get a certificate that you've been through
54:14
Speaker 4: their academy. And apparently these certificates are worth a fortune
54:19
Speaker 4: out there at the black market and You show up
54:23
Speaker 4: in cartel land with one of these things, and you're
54:27
Speaker 4: going to make a ton of money. So some of
54:29
Speaker 4: them are just perks.
54:31
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Interesting stuff. Todd Benzman is with us, and he
54:35
Speaker 1: is with the Heritage Foundation. We always have such great
54:38
Speaker 1: conversations with our friends at the Heritage Foundation. I know
54:41
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time. I got just
54:42
Speaker 1: a couple more. So what's the real danger here? to
54:47
Speaker 1: the United States now, obviously we're in a battle with this,
54:51
Speaker 1: but if they begin to escalate war, you know, drone
54:53
Speaker 1: warfare against us, I mean, won't we escalate it in,
54:57
Speaker 1: you know, in spades against them? How would that work?
55:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, one thing that you have
55:03
Speaker 4: to understand is that when Donald Trump came into office,
55:07
Speaker 4: he designated most of these cartels as foreign terrorist organizations,
55:12
Speaker 4: which triggered a lot of, uh, pressure that could be
55:19
Speaker 4: arrayed against them with the objective to completely dismantle all
55:24
Speaker 4: of them. And so the United States has deployed a
55:31
Speaker 4: lot of CIA officers into Mexico, for example, according to
55:37
Speaker 4: the Washington Post. And a lot of military special forces
55:44
Speaker 4: down there training the Mexicans, working with the Mexicans to
55:48
Speaker 4: raid fentanyl labs and to really kind of target leadership,
55:55
Speaker 4: take them out, either kill them or capture them. And
55:58
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of killing and capturing going on
56:01
Speaker 4: with explicit and implicit, overt and covert US support. And
56:08
Speaker 4: in addition to that, We are expanding what are called
56:13
Speaker 4: military defense areas all along our side of the U.S.
56:18
Speaker 4: southern border. And we've stationed about 8,000 soldiers in these zones.
56:23
Speaker 4: They're 100 yards or so along the borderline in Texas,
56:29
Speaker 4: New Mexico, Arizona, 845 miles worth of borderland to.
56:37
Speaker 4: Interdict their drug loads and cut off their major source
56:41
Speaker 4: of income. And the Mexican cartels are reportedly furious over
56:49
Speaker 4: all that has happened to them, all that they have suffered.
56:53
Speaker 4: They have not attacked U.S. soldiers for exactly the reason
56:56
Speaker 4: you stated. It has been traditionally a red line. It's
57:01
Speaker 4: bad for business. If you attack the Americans, you kill
57:04
Speaker 4: an American and you're going to pay dearly. much more
57:07
Speaker 4: dearly for it. But the question is, what's the tipping
57:11
Speaker 4: point for those Mexican cartels? When they feel like they've
57:15
Speaker 4: got nothing much left to lose, they might order up
57:19
Speaker 4: some killings. Not to mention that our people are embedded
57:23
Speaker 4: with Mexican forces in these raids. You might remember a
57:29
Speaker 4: few months ago, a couple of CIA officers died in
57:33
Speaker 4: an accidental car crash but they were with Mexican forces
57:38
Speaker 4: right after some drug lab raids. So we have people
57:43
Speaker 4: that are with them, and those forces are under attack
57:46
Speaker 4: by these drones now. So there is a heightened risk,
57:51
Speaker 4: I think, of Americans being hurt or killed by these drones,
57:56
Speaker 4: by these kind of drones. Mexicans, the cartels could just say, oh,
58:00
Speaker 4: that was an accident. You know, we didn't know.
58:04
Speaker 1: Again, Todd Benzman. Todd, I can't thank you enough. I've
58:06
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58:07
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58:09
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58:12
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58:16
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58:21
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58:23
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it, brother. We'll talk again down the road,
58:25
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58:28
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58:31
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58:31
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58:32
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58:32
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58:33
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58:36
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58:40
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