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ITB: Going Inside Eagles Decisions On Who Made Their 53-Man Roster And Who Didn't · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's up, everybody? It's Jeff
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Mosher and Adam Kaplan. And, oh, for the ninth or
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: tenth time in the history of Inside the Birds, we
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: get to react to the Eagles and their initial 53-man roster. Adam,
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: it was released Sunday by 6 p.m. We'll go through
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: the positions. I can't say– there were a couple of surprises,
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: but nothing so earth-shattering that we're like, wow, stop the presses.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: We need to do like an emergency– immediate ITB. So
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: why don't we just start from the top here. Quarterback,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: we talked about it. They kept four with Cole Payton
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: being the fourth. They didn't make any cuts. And, you know,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: I think you and I both thought three. Or did
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: we both have four? I can't even remember.
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: We both had three. This is more than reaction. This
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: is an Intel show. Yeah, here's the way I see it.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: They want to develop Cole Payton. Now, I would argue
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: he probably would have not been claimed of waivers but
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: they want to they they really would like to develop
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: this player now there are some people around the league
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: who don't believe he's a quarterback who believe he's got
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: to be a fullback not big enough to be a
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: tight end but there are a lot of people don't
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: think he's a quarterback but the eagles clearly think he
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: is now what you want to do is get him
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: to the offseason maybe because they didn't do it maybe
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: there's some specialty plays wildcat quarterback do something different with them,
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: which we didn't see other than we saw in the
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: preseason game on special teams. But they clearly want to
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: develop this guy. That's my interest in this thing is
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: that's what they want him to do, be a quarterback.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Don't necessarily agree with other teams here. We'll learn a
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: lot more in year two if he's still here. But
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: to keep him on the 53-man roster, which you talked about,
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: and keep four quarterbacks, You're not doing this just to
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: cut them tomorrow or, excuse me, Monday afternoon if they
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: claim other players. I would think they would be keeping
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: him here to develop them.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: And we talked about the complications of trying to develop
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: a fourth quarterback because the starter gets all the reps
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: in practice many times. Sometimes the backup, oftentimes I should say,
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: does not get reps because you're preparing your starters to
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: play each week. So the third quarterback, in this case,
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, Maybe he'll run the scouts. I don't know what.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: He'll get almost zero reps. And then any development that's
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: going to happen for Cole Payton has to happen after practices,
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: special periods that they do before a game. It's not
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: like every single day he's going to get really awesome
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: work against the first team defense or anything like that.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: Two things.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: They have a developmental period before and after practice. And
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: then what John D. Filippo told me, in fact, you
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: probably saw this, when He would develop Nate Sudfeld.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: It's going back. This is like before each game. Yeah.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: Good call.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: So John said that he, this is why he did it.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: Jamarcus Russell. John was the quarterbacks coach when Jamarcus Russell
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: was a rookie. And. Russell held out. He didn't sign
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: until well past the season. And he's like, I don't
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: know what else we can do here. But what I'm
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: going to do is I'm going to warm him up.
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to warm up individually. We're going to develop him.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: That way, get extra reps. So Cole Payton, this is
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: what Parks Frazier, the quarterbacks coach, should be doing. Cole
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: Payton is not going to step field with his team
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: this season. He's on the 53-man roster. So get him
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: extra reps. Good point that you brought up. They have
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: to do something to try to develop him. Because he's
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: not even on the scout team. Now, he could be
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: on the look team, which is you mimic what the
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: other athletic quarterback will do from the other team, which
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: he did a number of times with other quarterbacks if
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: they had one when they would face Russell Wilson. But anyway,
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: that's where it's at with quarterback right now.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I'll just say this. I don't think
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: this is going to happen, but we always call it
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: the initial 53 for a reason. And Howie does have
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: a good sense of, Sometimes you let teams go through
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: the first 24 to 48 hours to put their 53 together.
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: And then you wave a guy to bring somebody else
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: back on thinking that that guy's not going to get
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: claimed because teams are too busy or they've already filled
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: out that position. So maybe something happens there or maybe
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: they do want to use him in an other athletic
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: way that, you know, because like I said, he was
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: the punt protector there. on special teams in the preseason finale.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: I doubt it, but I'm just giving all these options
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: that do exist so that we cover all of our bases.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: Running back was pretty chalked there. I know there are
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: fan favorites. The fans have really rallied around Carson Steele.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: And we do know the Eagles have a history of
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: having a fourth running back on the 53 who collects dust,
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: but they finally are deciding that they don't need that.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: And I think that that's fine. It makes sense that
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: you've got the three you need.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, Because Carson Steele put up a ridiculous amount
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: of catches over two games, like 15. Right. He now
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: went from having zero chance of getting claimed. He might
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: get claimed. Claims, just so you know, are 1 o'clock today,
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: which is Monday. And then this is the one thing,
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: and this is me getting on top of my hill
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: every year. Inexperienced agents go on Twitter and they go,
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: congratulations to my player, Phil, in the name. of making
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: the Eagles roster. But the problem is, and it's happened
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: so many times is, yeah, he's on the roster till
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: five o'clock Eastern. If the Eagles claim a couple of players,
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: they got, they have to make room. They got to
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: cut a couple of players. And that's the worst is
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: of when the guy is in his hotel room.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: And he gets cut at four hours later after he
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: was of claim players. And that agent probably will have
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: to delete what he put because he looks like an idiot.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: So memo agents don't say shit. Okay. Say, Hey man,
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: you're here initially, but let's, let's get past waivers first
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: on Monday. Then we'll see. And on your point, by
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: the way, they could still, they're going to make more
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: moves Tuesday, Wednesday on the practice squad.
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: And, and who knows, depending like if some veterans are
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: cut and you don't want to guarantee their, their salary.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this with you. You don't have them
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: on the week one roster, but you can do the
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: roster tango. You bring them to the practice squad. You go, hey, listen,
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: we don't want to guarantee your salary fully by being
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: on the week one roster. So how about you go
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: to our practice squad? Then we'll bring you up on
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: week two. So there are a lot of maneuverabilities here.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: And that leads us into the next position because that
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: might be the case. We'll see. They keep six receivers.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: And even though I made a case and had Elijah
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: Moore on my 53, Adam, I'm still a little surprised
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: that it actually wound up happening because by the end
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: of our podcast, I had talked myself into thinking I
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: was an idiot for doing it, but he makes it
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: along with Darius Cooper and Hollywood Brown. And of course
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: the top three are Devante Smith.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, Moore deserves it, but unless he, unless he, he
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: returns punts this week, he's not going to play. Yep.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: I agree. It's either going to be him or Covey.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: So Covey was cut. He's not, he's vested. So he's
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: not subject to waivers. We'll see if they bring him
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: to the practice squad. I would make sense. He's still
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: a really good punt returner, but he looked great in
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: training camp doing it.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: But, look, good for Moore. You know, good for Moore. Now,
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: I think you and I talked about this. If I'm
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, it's nice that he's on the roster. But, man,
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: it's like I don't know who his agent is. But
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: I'd want him in Miami. Anywhere he can make money.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. He doesn't need the money so much. Yeah.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Anywhere he can have a big role. He's not going
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: to have a role here.
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: I get it. And I'm not confident by the time
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: we do our next podcast he's still going to be
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: on the big three.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we'll get to tight end. Let's move over
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: to tight end. Darius Cooper made it. There was never
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: a doubt that he was going to make it.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: He had a great training camp. Yeah, he had a
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: couple drops.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he finished strong, but it wasn't terrible. No, no.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: Look, he had some drops. But, look, Howie is not
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: one to cut guys that have been an unbelievable find
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: for their scouting staff. I think it's Cam Bradfield and
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: good job by Howie to sign him. Like, he bought
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: in and he– you know, he did a great job.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: So then tight end, this one was a minor surprise.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: There was never any really real true surprises, but EJ
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: Jenkins has been on and off the roster several times
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: for three years.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: Good for now. Again, initially Calcaterra, he's got a back injury.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: Greg Calcaterra has had it for a couple of weeks.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: He's on IR designation for return. We'll see when he's ready.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: So Jenkins on the roster for now, but They just
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: clearly don't like Cam Latu. We've talked about this the
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: last couple weeks. I don't know what it is that
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: they don't like about him.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, EJ had a really bad drop
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: in that preseason.
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: So did Cam Latu.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: He had a drop as well. But EJ's was that
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: concentration one where you're trying to head upfield before you
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: have the ball in your hand. That really– ticks coaches off,
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: but he can block Adam. And obviously, if you want
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: to run some 12 and maybe even do some 13
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: early on, and with Calcaterra, of course, being on injured reserve,
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: you can put Munt and Jenkins out there to block
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: and Goddard as a flex if you want to do that.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: You have that optionality. Again, you and I thought you
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: could have done that also with Latu, but they see
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: something more in EJ Jenkins.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see if Latu gets claimed. And Stone Smart,
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: by the way, who was actually vested, he's a vested veteran,
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: He makes perfect sense. He had actually a really good,
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: he had a better training camp than Jenkins, I thought,
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: but Jenkins is a better blocker. EJ Jenkins, I'll say
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: he's a former college receiver. He's gotten much better and
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: he's a big dude. Big guy.
• 9:57
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• 12:52
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I got the 10 right on
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: the online. I know I'm very close. If I didn't
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: get it right, Michael Morris on it, I don't think
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: you did.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't. I had John Ojukwu on it instead.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Ojukwu, I didn't. I could certainly see the fact he was,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: he should have been waived. He's definitely, yeah, he's not. Yeah,
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: he was waived. So he's a guy that if he
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't get claimed, he could get claimed, by the way, Ojukwu.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: He absolutely could get waived. I mean, he can get claimed.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so Lampkin had a phenomenal camp, was never
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: in question. It's weird, though, with him. He wouldn't get
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: any even second team reps until the second week. And
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: then he just cleaned up. And the tape was phenomenal
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: in week two. So he made it. And Michael Morris is,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you want to hold on to guys like this. Yep.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: He's a pure developmental guy. It's going to take him
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: a while, but he's got some upside. And that's the 10. Yeah,
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: really nothing else to add. It looked kind of like
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: I thought it would.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, again, the only thing that would have
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: like a name like Zeke Corral, if they kept, remember
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: when they kept Josh Sills on, we were admittedly surprised.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: It's one of the few times. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: So moving on to defense and by the way, if
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: you're counting, that was 10, 20, 27, they went on offense.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: So a little heavier than I thought on offense there.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: And they did keep three specialists. You know, I kind
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: of thought they would go the, The route of putting
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Rocco Underwood on the practice squad, if you can get
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: them through and then elevating.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: They weren't going to risk that because why ruin the battery,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: so to speak? I get it. Yeah, it's a little risky. Now,
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: the five de-tackles made it. Just like Ty Robinson went
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: from life support to being supported by Vic. Yeah, he
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: came on. Boy, I don't know what it is. Sometimes
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: the light goes on. Vic talked about it. It sure
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: as hell went on. He's one of the five. Yeah. Yeah.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously UR Bernard is not on it. I
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: think that's probably, if you're going to ask me what's
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: the one thing that I can honestly be surprised about,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: it's that both UR Bernard and the Edge Joshua Rue,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: the IPP guys from Africa, neither of them were kept
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: on the 53. Here's why.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the way I see this. This is my,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: just the way I'm reasoning with it, asking some people.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: There's no chance that UR Bernard plays this season.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: He's not ready. He's just not ready to contribute. I'm
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: glad he got in preseason games. So knowing that, why
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: would you claim him?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: He's on your 53.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: You have to be on the 53. Right. That's a
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: great point. You have to be on the team. Why
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: would you claim him? Right.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Like if you claim him, you like, okay, so you're
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: going to redshirt him the whole season. He just probably
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: won't be active. Maybe at some point, because he's, maybe
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: you think he could get, he could play special teams,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: just go down and run.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, I got one team in mind
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: that I would watch Rams. Yeah. Yeah. Revenge for Willie Lampkin.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. I totally, totally believe it. And plus
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the Rams are one of those teams that can afford
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: to have him on the 53, but inactive because they're,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, my God, they bring Aaron Donald back. They're
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: pretty stacked there in the front seven.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: They don't need any. Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, the five we thought would be on it. Oh,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: by the way, Grenard is off. Um, He's not on
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: reserve PUP. He's on the 53-man roster. So they clearly
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: believe within the first four weeks he's going to be
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: able to play. Yes. So now.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: We thought, we just, again, the bigger discussion is how
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: much can he play? How effective is he? Is he
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: risking re-injury? You know, you want to make sure he's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: 100% because he's not been able to work out.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Epinesa made it as we expected. Good story, man. Good
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: for him. Good job by Howie on this one because
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: he flunks Cleveland's physical. Eagles pass him. They had no
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: problem with it. And he looked pretty good. I know
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: he's new to coverage in the short area. It is
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: what it is. You've got to drop in Vic's scheme.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: But the guy's got great length. And the guy's a
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: former second-round pick who's an excellent run defender. This is
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: a good one. And look, no offense. Look, they've got
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: five guys. They've got five edges. This is pretty good.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good there. And Epinesa, you know, you wonder,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: would he have made the team if Grenard was completely healthy?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Because that would have given them four with Ebikedi, and
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: then maybe they would have kept a Grenard or, excuse me, Waru,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: but obviously the situation's presented itself the way they did.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ebikedi, he was on the team regardless. They guaranteed
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: over $ 4 million.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: He was on the team.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Linebacker, one with the chalk.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Do you want to blame Vic Fangio for misleading us, though? No,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: but here's the thing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: No, but at the time, Campbell, that was two weeks ago.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: He was kicking ass, and then he kind of fell
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: off a little bit. And I didn't realize this. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: did not know he was vested. Chance Campbell is actually,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that makes perfect, that way he's not subject to waivers. Right. Yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: that to me is why. Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. That deal could have been worked out
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: in advance, and yeah, we'll see what happens.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: That's a huge deal, man. Let's go over to corner. Yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I just want to say, though, those are four pretty
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: solid linebacks.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Well, Mondin is.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: No, because I'm saying his role is special teams, and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: he's a good special teamer. So, I mean, you've got
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: guys who can do whatever they need for them to do,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: whether it's start or be a good backup or special
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: teams that's.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Well i'm not sure how good of a backup he
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: is yet i'm not i'm not so sure on that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Right i mean for smile i mean trotter is the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: good backup.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: He's a stud yeah mondan let's see what happens with
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: chance campbell be good for them if they can get
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: campbell in the practice squad all right cornerback yeah it's.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: It's mackick williams made it yep Jonathan Jones, they're guaranteed
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: two million plus. They didn't have another third corner. He
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: has to be it. So, yeah, it's to me now,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see. Gushikin did not make it. Boy,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that special teams tackle was incredible. He got burned a
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: couple times in the short area. Right. Lawson, yeah, Deontay Lawson,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: he's a guy to look at the practice squad. But
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yandre Sam was way injured. He goes on IR if
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he's not claimed, which is almost certain to happen. Maxis
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Pulley didn't make it. Zion Wilson, I forgot to mention him.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Not that I thought he could make it. He's a
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: guy I expect he could claim. That's the tackle, correct? Yeah,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the UDFA. Yeah, yeah. He's a guy. Yeah, yeah. He
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: could get claimed. So Eagles need to be in the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: hunt for a veteran corner on their practice squad at
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: some point over the next three to four weeks. They
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: need to take a look at that. They're paper thin
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: at corner. Mack with Williams, right now he's arguably their
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: fourth corner. It's either him or Ringo, and Ringo, you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: certainly don't want in there. Yep. Mack McWilliams, to me,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: is two up and down. I'm not sold on him.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: They need to look at corner here. Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we're talking about guys who we're not
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: sure by the time we do a next podcast, they'll
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: be on the 53. You know, we already mentioned Elijah Moore.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Mack McWilliams could be one of them, especially if they
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: go out and get a veteran there. Safeties were what
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we expected, Makuba, Epps, Michael Carter III, and, of course,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: DeGene will play safety quite a bit in base defense.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I think Wisniewski, it was just too much time away
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: off the field as a rookie to really compete for
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a spot.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was not wave injured, so he healed up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So the guys to watch out for coming back here,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: if they're not claimed, you are Bernard, obviously. Eric Azucama
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: actually looked good. He actually was just turning kicks. Would
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: not surprise me if he clears. That he's back. Gushikin.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Kapian Gushikin. Gabe Hall. Well, it's funny. Last year, they
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: didn't bring him back initially. Then they brought him back
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and he was on and off, on and off. Deontay Lawson.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Jake Majors.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Ojukwu.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez, who looked good in two of the games.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Carson Steele. I can't imagine he won't be claiming after
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: what he just did the last two games. Zion Wilson.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know about Cam Williams. I'm not, I would
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: not surprise if they didn't bring him back. We'll see. Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: What about Gabe Hall? I mean, he's a, he's developed
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and teams are always looking for D tackles and they
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: can rationalize saying, Hey, the Eagles are really so stacked.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Like this guy might be a good four for us,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: even though he couldn't be a top five for the Eagles.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Here's why he's a tweener. He's not a run stopper.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: He's not a pressure. He's just super long effort was
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: really good last summer. He really should have, he deserved
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to make it. Yeah. But, I hear you. He's got
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: body beautiful. He's what you want.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be somewhere. Even if he doesn't get claimed,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: he'll be either with the Eagles on the practice squad
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: or somebody will want to kick the tires on his young. Hey,
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• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Generally, they're 15 to 25 players claimed on on the
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: claim day I'll be around the national football league. It's
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: not the, it's not as many as you think. And there'll,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of guys. God, I can't believe
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that guy passed through.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: It's, it's what teams don't seem like the fans of
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the media do. They just don't, you know, but sometimes
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: by the way, good, very true.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Who's returning punts for this team right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Now would either be Elijah more if he's still on
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it or, or I would think Covey. Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Part of me wonders if that's why they did keep
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Moore for that six spot.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Could be.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: They want him returning. It's not something he's done a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: whole lot of. I know he did in camp a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: little bit and probably can do it, but it'll be
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: interesting if they think he's good enough to do that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and do it effectively.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Andrew might know. I didn't see Hollywood Brown doing it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I don't remember. Oh, well, Makai
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Lemon did it, but barely in college. I think he
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: only had like six returns.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and after the And listen, I'm not going to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: hold the other night against him for the rest of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: his life, but he didn't look comfortable. He muffed the punt.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: He did recover it, but he just, right now you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: can't rely on him to do something like that carries
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that kind of responsibility because he's swimming and he's far behind.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: He's, I think folks, I'm going to say this again,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: please be patient because people want instant results. And I'm sorry,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: he only returned six punts in college. He did return Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I was right. Six punts in college, 32 kicks.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: In college.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You're talking about Hollywood.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: No, Lemon.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, Lemon. Okay, I'm sorry.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Makai.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Makai, yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So you got to be patient because people were up
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in arms after Stowers, the first game. Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: He's a project. It's going to take him a while.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: No, Lemon's behind because he missed.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: People are already comparing him to Aguilar and Rager. It's ridiculous. Relax, everybody. Relax.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Lemon missed 75% of their practices since he was drafted. Actually,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit more than that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: So just relax. It's going to take Lemon a while.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Growing pains, folks. The big news, though, for Washington to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: come out on Sunday, their best corner, their best corner
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: was put, Trey Amos was put on IR.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Boy, it's been tough for them. No Tunsell. Right now,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: no Amos. Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And their practice against Baltimore is horrendous.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Let him go. I was supposed to go and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I backed out the last second. I don't know why.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Because I saw both teams individually.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And boy, Washington and their receiver core is not very deep. Yeah, boy.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Although Daniels was elite, the practice I was at. But
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Eagles have a decided.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Advantage week one.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Decided advantage.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: All right. So obviously they'll be assembling their practice squad
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in the next 24 hours and they'll be making– So
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: moves in the next time you hear from Adam and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I will be evaluating the next 53, which by the way,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: may not be the same as the week one 53
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: man roster. That's why we call it the initial and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the fluid 53. That's going to do it for this
• 25:58
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• 26:01
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