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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 21 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
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  Speaker 1: newly crowned President of the Frank Gore Fan Club, J P.
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  Speaker 1: Chadres I said last night he's number twenty one in
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  Speaker 1: your program, number three in the all time rushing list,
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  Speaker 1: foot number one in your heart. Welcome in Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick, and
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  Speaker 1: we have quite a show for you today. Pete Frisco
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  Speaker 1: and Tony Boselli, as always, are standing by. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: a Jaguars Ravens review as ugly as it was fourteen
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  Speaker 1: the final score. We'll break it down. J E. T S, Jets, Jets, Jets.
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  Speaker 1: They knocked off the Rams in the four o'clock window yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Two games remaining social media questions and boy were there
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Today will go around the NFL
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  Speaker 1: as well. Let's start with the Jaguars loss in week fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: thirteen losses in a row now forty fourteen loss to
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens. After the opening interception, the Ravens scored six
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  Speaker 1: of the next seven possessions to run away with it.
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  Speaker 1: Mint you struggled in the first half better in the
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  Speaker 1: second half. On the game was out of reach. The
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  Speaker 1: defense didn't have much bite at all. Yesterday, then in
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  Speaker 1: the four PM window, a stunning upset the Jets over
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  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. They were seventeen point favorites in
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  Speaker 1: the game, Frank Gore was a hero three care's fifty
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  Speaker 1: nine yards a touchdown, but his six yard reception got
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  Speaker 1: the final first down to melt the clock away. And
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  Speaker 1: now the Jaguars have the inside path to the number
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  Speaker 1: one overall pick and identical record of the Jets, but
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  Speaker 1: the worst strength of schedule as the tiebreaker for now
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  Speaker 1: two games to go. What does this all mean though?
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  Speaker 1: To Doug Morone, he was asked about it today and
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  Speaker 1: guess what, it doesn't mean much to him. He still
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  Speaker 1: trying to break this losing streak. Well, I mean, no
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  Speaker 1: one's advised me, you know what I'm saying anything different
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  Speaker 1: than to go out there and win. So, um, I understand,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I guess from a standpoint of I mean
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  Speaker 1: I was young growing up, you know, and and and
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  Speaker 1: had a favorite team, and you know, I was excited
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  Speaker 1: to see where they were gonna pick. So it's not something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Mike that I don't look back at the
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  Speaker 1: end of stand but you know, I mean seen this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we we're trying to we're trying to win.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, um, I mean we're doing everything we possibly can.
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  Speaker 1: And you know that's that's what I'm That's my job
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  Speaker 1: right now and I owe it to the coaches and players.
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  Speaker 1: None of us are gonna, you know, look at this
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  Speaker 1: and in the future. Head coach Dug Maron today on
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  Speaker 1: an audio call with the media this afternoon, we welcome
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  Speaker 1: in Pete Briscoe and Tony Boselli and Pete, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about all that?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean to something I've been saying since October?
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  Speaker 1: J E t s Jets, Jets Jets. I mean, now,
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  Speaker 1: I saw I I saw a video or a tweet
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  Speaker 1: that Hicken and and uh and Brett Martineau went out
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  Speaker 1: and did a j et. They copied me by the way.
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  Speaker 1: That was embarrassing, but it really was. It really was.
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  Speaker 1: But because okay, here's the deal here, he's gonna play
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  Speaker 1: the player's side of it. I'm not going to beat
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  Speaker 1: We said it before they came on the air. If
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna stink, stink all the way as bad as possible,
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  Speaker 1: so you get the first overall pick. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: a good place to be in, let's be honest, And
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  Speaker 1: it's not good for an organization where you have the
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  Speaker 1: fans rooting for one thing, which is to lose. And
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  Speaker 1: they didn't care that they got beat by the Ravens yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't care. In fact, they're probably happy it was
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  Speaker 1: not even close, so they didn't have to worry about winning,
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  Speaker 1: and they're more concerned about the Jets and then win
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  Speaker 1: and everything else. That's what this fan base cares about
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  Speaker 1: right now. If we're the last two games, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be rooting for the Jaguars to lose. And then I agree,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not and I'm not saying that's wrong. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, on the other side, you have the coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff and the players fight like hell to win a
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  Speaker 1: book football games. You literally have. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: my guess is, like people in the organization we're on
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  Speaker 1: this is why certain people in the organization are hoping
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  Speaker 1: that they get to make sure they keep that overall
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  Speaker 1: first to pick. And so it's just not where you
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  Speaker 1: want to be, is my whole point. Bet you won't
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  Speaker 1: be there again for ann decade. Don't worry about it
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  Speaker 1: after this No, no, no, after this decade. You're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna after this year. You're not gonna worry about it
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  Speaker 1: again for at least another decade. Do not worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: You will not be picking first for another decade. Well
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  Speaker 1: and all, he says, I'm not convinced you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: picking first. What are you talking about if somebody said they, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the rest of the players. So there, let's sit
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  Speaker 1: and play what they could playful not beat the Bear.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, because listen, the Jets war
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  Speaker 1: dogs and one. Let's just keep putting that perspective. The
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar is really seven and a half point dogs at
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  Speaker 1: home against the Bear's leave point under dogs home field.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a little less now with no fans, but come on, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: stop it. Just stop it. And by the way, I
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  Speaker 1: will take the other side of this. If I'm Doug
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  Speaker 1: Morone and I'm getting the boot after the after this season,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I can to stick it to
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  Speaker 1: the organization. I'm running reverses and on site kicks and
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  Speaker 1: and and doing anything. And it still isn't gonna matter.
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  Speaker 1: But I would do everything and anything that I could
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  Speaker 1: to try and win the game. But they're not winning
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  Speaker 1: the game. They're not winning against the Colts, and the
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  Speaker 1: franchise was forever changed a fourth doubting completion in Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles on Sunday, basking it, enjoy it. You understand why
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  Speaker 1: the fan base is excited, Tony Toy. This is a
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  Speaker 1: generational quarterback. Pete, Pete, I'm not against the fans being excited.
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  Speaker 1: So like, no, no, no, no no, I said, I,
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired of losing, and I'm tired of being here.
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  Speaker 1: To your point, if you're asking me if I was
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  Speaker 1: being just completely broadly honest, do I want us to
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  Speaker 1: win the last two games and and forfeit the right
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  Speaker 1: to have the first overall pick. No, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I can't. I could think you're lied everyone
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  Speaker 1: and say, yeah, go win. I want to win everything else.
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  Speaker 1: In a perfect world, what I'd love to happen is
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  Speaker 1: for the Jets to win the next two games, the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals do win the next two games, and for the
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  Speaker 1: Jags win next two games, so we still have the
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  Speaker 1: last pick. Because there's something inside of me that hates losing.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm with you by having
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  Speaker 1: the first overall pick. If Trevor Lawrence is who everyone
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  Speaker 1: thinks he is and what we think he is, that
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  Speaker 1: changes the trajectory. If you can keep him healthy for
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  Speaker 1: the rest for the next decade. By the way, what
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  Speaker 1: the fans need to root for is for Clemson to
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  Speaker 1: lose their first playoff game so he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: play too more. Let's get him out of it. Thought
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  Speaker 1: about it like everyone's like bubble wrap them. Yeah, get
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  Speaker 1: up to Jacksonville. Lose to get him. He loses his
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  Speaker 1: playoff game, he's healthy, You get him to Jacksonville and
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  Speaker 1: on you go with your decade of having a franchise
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  Speaker 1: generational quarterback. And by the way, I have a couple
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  Speaker 1: other ways to fix the franchise. We'll get into that
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  Speaker 1: today too. But that's it's incredible that the city can
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  Speaker 1: be lifted. So people are sending out sending out the
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  Speaker 1: tweets with it's amazing. That's what bothers. That's what bothers me, guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that I'm happy to fans are excited. I'm
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  Speaker 1: happy it took us to continue with the lose the
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  Speaker 1: Jets to win for this place to be excited about
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  Speaker 1: football games. That's my whole point is that's not where
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  Speaker 1: you want to be as an organization. That's not good.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what it is. You know why it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's better than being six and ten for mediocrity and
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  Speaker 1: maybe winning a nine win season. This way, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be competitive for a decade. If he's on the kill,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be competitive for a decade. You'd rather be you
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  Speaker 1: might have three seasons in that decade where you have
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate chance to be a super Bowl team and winner.
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  Speaker 1: You know, being six six, seven and nine, nine and seven.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with it. That's like no man's land. I
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  Speaker 1: agree at that point you're making. I'm just I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to add some just some realism to this conversation. That
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  Speaker 1: team we watched this year on the football field, that
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  Speaker 1: team we watched them Sunday play as the Ravens is
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  Speaker 1: not a quarterback away from being a contenders. Have other
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  Speaker 1: I have other ways, but I want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: everyone listening and everyone's all excited. We're gonna get Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: The world is fixed, We're winning the super Bowl. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do on that team because
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  Speaker 1: it's not a talented roster. No, but we're gonna fix
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  Speaker 1: it today too. We're gonna give the plan. Because everybody
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  Speaker 1: has the Trevor Lawrence part of it, we know that.
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  Speaker 1: But I got a plan, and I have a plan
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  Speaker 1: to fix team. When it comes to that roster and
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  Speaker 1: the money I'm gonna spend, We're gonna fix that team. Pete.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was driving out of here yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I'm taking my head because we'll
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  Speaker 1: probably agree to say. Man, it's just the way you
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  Speaker 1: say it. I was right, like somehow it's just mysterious thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just give you the highlights of the plan.
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  Speaker 1: Get the quarterback, protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, and
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  Speaker 1: go find a corner to cover the receivers. I came
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  Speaker 1: up with that planned years ago when you were playing
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  Speaker 1: in the league. But that's your plan. I'm just say
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  Speaker 1: I actually got names associated the plan. I can give
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  Speaker 1: you the names. You want the names, go ahead, I'll wait.
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  Speaker 1: I'll wait to do I'll wait to deal with you.
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  Speaker 1: Your beauty. Though. Yeah, I was saying, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: across the bridge leaving here yesterday I was looking out
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  Speaker 1: for the Barges with all the fireworks, Pete, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see them on the river last night, like I thought
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  Speaker 1: they were going to come out after the Jets. That
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  Speaker 1: was a week seven team. When it actually goes, it
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  Speaker 1: becomes official when it hit zero for the last time
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  Speaker 1: and there they they're gonna have fireworks. But strange things happen.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen strange things happen, like to Tony's point a
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  Speaker 1: minute ago, like they can come out and win. It's not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if only the Colts, if only the
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  Speaker 1: Colts hadn't lost the game where they didn't punt, remember
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  Speaker 1: those two point plays that everybody the best thing to
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  Speaker 1: happen and was they didn't convert him. I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: you know what, here's what compounds the entire thing. Justin
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  Speaker 1: fields was awful on Saturday. I mean, you and I
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  Speaker 1: talked about a couple of weeks. Now, yeah, before this game,
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  Speaker 1: we're sure he's the guy, and so that compounded the
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  Speaker 1: news of yesterday and in the happenings of yesterday. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's one game, Pete, I mean, the guy could come.
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  Speaker 1: It's been Tony's right. There's been some moments where you
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  Speaker 1: look at them and you go, okay, but think about
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  Speaker 1: that in one day he okay, he plays, You have
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  Speaker 1: your doubts and all I'm sitting there on Sunday, Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 1: before the game started, I say Jackson was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: in a tough situation because they're gonna be forced to
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  Speaker 1: take a quarterback at two. But who have you taken?
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  Speaker 1: And then all that happens and now you're picking first.
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  Speaker 1: Don't mess it up. Remember Lamar Jackson had four interceptions
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  Speaker 1: in his final college game here in the Gator Bowl too.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, it turned out, okay, Well he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: no first passing either, JB. It still wasn't. And and
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  Speaker 1: to be clear, Justin Fields is not the dynamic athlete
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  Speaker 1: that you admit. You watched the game on Saturday. When
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  Speaker 1: you saw Justin Fields, you're going, uh, another first round
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  Speaker 1: bus quarterback picked in the top ten. But what about
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  Speaker 1: the Indiana game a couple of few weeks so it
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  Speaker 1: was a very good there either three picks. And so
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  Speaker 1: now you've taken all that, the equation, all of it,
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  Speaker 1: every bit of it, and now the Jets are left
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  Speaker 1: into that situation. The Jets have to decide do we
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  Speaker 1: stick with Sam Donald. Do we think these other guys
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  Speaker 1: are better? Should we take Justin Fields? Maybe trade down
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  Speaker 1: against Zach Wilson at extra picks. They're the ones making
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  Speaker 1: all those decisions. Jacksonville makes it easy decision. Don't win
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  Speaker 1: in the next two weeks, and you picked Turevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: franchise fixed. It's over. It's done, all right, We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: come back and see about the rest of the team.
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  Speaker 1: To Pete has to have some other ideas well. We
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  Speaker 1: should We even talked about the Ravens game and such briefly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was such I mean funny thing. That's
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  Speaker 1: not the story today. The story is not the Ravens game.
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  Speaker 1: The story is the Jets game. What happened in the
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  Speaker 1: Jets game above the is the headline down here you have, oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, they lost and they were blown out,
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  Speaker 1: And we'll get to that when we come back. We'll
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  Speaker 1: in a factory where there's like a bunch of workers
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  Speaker 1: Downsta're yelling up at the base. Yeah, thanks, Tony, I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. So um hey, you know the the offense.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Let's touch on yesterday's game. The offense was nowhere to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: be found in the first half, and they weren't really
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: much to be found in the second half too. They
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: were so far behind that the yardage came in the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: second half of the game to get back in I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: don't know. They didn't get back in it. They got
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: down the field a couple of times and scored, but
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: get back JP. What are you talking about, smoke J Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: pretty much. And so anyway, they they certainly were not
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: very good at all in the first half. Gardenerment she
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: didn't look great. They couldn't run the ball. James Robinson
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: hadn't arguably his worst day in terms of running the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: ball yesterday, and that's what this is going to be.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It feels like I don't think it's arguably the worst day.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: It was his worst day it ever was under two
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and a half yards to carry. You never got anything
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: going completely shut him down from the start. You know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: you just never got to going. I mean, I'm not
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: putting it on hey, but I put on the offensive
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: line to start with. It's the game movement, no, no scenes.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: They were trying to run off the edge, towards the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: edges off tackle. Maybe it's an outside stretch. I got
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: nothing going there. It was. It was bad. I mean,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: when you only get sixty one yards of total offense
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in the first half in today's NFL, that is just
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: put it's bad. And they were out of sorts from
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the beginning. It started with the first drive. Defense gets
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a turnover, there's a good job and the Josh Show's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: interception and then you know, next thing you know, it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a safety after two boys. So nothing good to talk about.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Don't feel for the quarterback identified he's coming either. I mean,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: he has no idea who Those are easy things to see.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: He didn't see them. It's not a good it's a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: bad quarterback. I mean, whatever happened last year, they should
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: call it Minshew magic because that's what it was. It
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't many, it was magic. It never happened again, it
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: was just he's bad. He's not a good quarterback. I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: hate like, I don't want to pile on the kid.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: But the reality is you don't want to pile on kid.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's but he's terrible, he's no good.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: What do you want to say? Do you want me
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to do you want me to sugarcoat? What do you
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: How would you describe his play time out? This time out?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you shouldn't code anything, you never, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: don't bury the kid. Well, I'm not saying I'm never
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: gonna don't bury the kid and then go. But I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: don't want to pile off. Well, I'm not gonna ply
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on and say he shouldn't be in the league. I'm
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: not gonna go that far. Should he be the backup here? No?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Where is he gonna go? Well, he can't
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: be the backup behind a young quarterback. I just don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: think it works. He's not that I agree with that. Okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So when you're laughing at me, you asked me the question,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I answered honestly, and you look at me like I'm
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: not No, I'm laughing at you because of your comments
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of just burying the kid. I mean, I don't know.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I don't it's not personal. It's just from a football standpoint,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: he's not very good. No one said it was personal, okay,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but I'm laughing at very stakes. He's not good. I mean,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: they've had bad quarterbacks in their history, and he's one
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of the worst. You might have had backup quarterbacks on
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: your team in the mid nineties who were way better.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Would you take him or Jamie Martin? Jamie Martin, would
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you take him? Er? JD. Fiedler? Do you take him?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Or Rob Johnson take himber? Steve Burline. Okay, so there's
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: four backups on your teams that Steve Matthews. No, but
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we don't want to pile on the kids. Don't want
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to take Steve Matthews. But that's the point. Jp. Whatever
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: they got out of him last year, it was magic.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: He never should have played last year. He okay, So
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you don't what you don't play him for a year
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and then you're what he's ready to become a starter,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: said for four years and three years and be ready
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to play. He's never gonna be ready to play that best, right,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And but he shouldn't have played. The only reason plays
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: because Nick got hurt. That was it. They kept him
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: in there. Well that the big thing is, here's the problem,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and it is what it is. Now we don't have
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to rehash just because you know, if everything keeps along
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the path that we hope and think they're gonna they're
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gonna pick Trevor Lawrence and you know, hopefully everything in
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the world we write. But here's the reality. The fact
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that they didn't aggressively go get a quarterback in this
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: year's draft. It really is. I don't want to say
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: there's no there's no excuse for but they basically they
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: thought mins you was the answer. And that's what drives
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: me crazy. It's like, how do you not, like if
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you want to try it, like you're saying maybe, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: how do you not then go make a move and
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: do homework? And especially after what we've seen Justin Herbert
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and some of these other guys, how do you not
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: make a move with two first rounders to see if
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you can get that was the move to make. If
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you're gonna make a move, you're gonna go up and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: get Justin Herbert. You play menshow for a game? Get
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: him out in Herbert's in That's what you would have done.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That was the move to make two ones go up
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and get Herbert. But you didn't. So now the next
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: best thing you get. You fall into this because you
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: didn't get one. So it worked. If they don't win
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: another game, it will work out for the best. Well, man,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it is a question. Well this conversation, I mean, you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and I might not have I mean I guess maybe
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: next year. You know, God willing, we're all still doing
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this thing we love in covering football. And uh is
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: will tremor Lawrence be as good as Justin Herbert his
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: rookie year. Yes, that's a big go think about that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert has been outstanding. He's gonna be everybody. And
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Joe Barrow would have been outstanding too if he had
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: played the entire season. His numbers were gonna be good too,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: not as good as Herbert. But Herbert has better receivers.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Would you agree? No, I don't agree. You don't think
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and and first of all,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Mike Williams has been hurt all year. Hunter Henry Henry
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: has been hurt a bunch. No, I think we'll look
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: at look at Cincinnati's receiving them they're pretty damn good.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: But Tyler Boyd's a good player. JJ Green has been okay,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Higgins or whatever, Higgins he's been okay, yeah, really good. Yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that means but Burrow would have been put up big
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: numbers two. I'm not saying so will Tarver Larne be
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: as good as Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert his first year.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm saying because my planning will be. Yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you give me three other moves
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you'll make on offense, Pete after the sign Hunter Henry,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I get rid of the left tackle. Hold back up,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you said, you say, signed Hunter Henry like it's done,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: deal like the like. The Chargers are gonna try to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: get him. Well, they might not tag him though, so
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: if they don't tag him, if I don't tag him,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: might go get him. Go get Hunter Henry, get rid
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of the left tackle. See you and go get a
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: veteran maybe if you have to, Trent Williams will be
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: on the market. Is he an upgrade? Damn right, he is.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: He's a veteran. You don't think San Francisco doesn't keep him, Well,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'll try to. But that's what you've got a lot
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of cap room. Don't you have the ability to go
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: after guys if you want to, I would explore interior
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: alignment like Joe Tuney from the Patriots. Really good player.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Now just shaking your head, Why is he better than Norwell?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You got an affinity for Norwhell, so you'll say, no, no, no,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you. Do you think he's better than Norwell? Yes?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And I think the price of Norwell is expensive too.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Okay, but but you be getting rid of
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and it's a math exercise. So it's it's don't have
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: in front of it is letting more weell go, eating
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is dead money and then paying uh uh get him
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: he's younger. I understand that, but I'm saying when you
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: look at the cant number, no, I know, but but
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: there's a way to do it. You can finaglin. You
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: know how the cap works, don't You can make it
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: work anywhere you want to, Okay, Okay, So, and then
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I draft either rondel Moore or Tony from Florida in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the second round to add a speed and quick speed
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: element to the offense. I don't know if you guys
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: know who rondel Moore is from Purdue. He opted out
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: this year, but he's a phenomenal little receiver, much like
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. And or it's Tony and you've watched Tony
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: all year. That gets phenomenal, Henry. So your offensive line
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: is pretty much Taylor, a j Can, if you want
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to keep Linda, maybe a left guard, maybe Doorwell, but
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a veteran left tack. Then in free agency, on defense,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I signed Leonard Williams for sure. I'm I'm spent. I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: unloading on Leonard Williams. I might add Trey Hendrickson. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if you watch that game yesterday, but Eric
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Fisher couldn't handle them. Those are two peaks. And then
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I would use my second first round pick on the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: best available player at any other position. Maybe another defensive
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe another corner, maybe you know what I mean,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: somebody a playmaker. So I if I send this offense
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: onto the field in Week one, Trent Williams is my
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: left tackle. I'll keep Norwell, Linda Can, Taylor Hunter, Henry,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, d J Chark, Levisco, Chandal Collin Johnson, James
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Robinson behind Trevor Lawrence. Is that a good offense? I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: mean I mean that's fun. I mean, I'm all about
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: like this naming names. But the one thing that free
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: agency is you don't just get to say they're coming here.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: And so the question is, I'm letna give you a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: couple of other side by the way, I love all
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the players. Fine, I'm not disagree to anything and how
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you're thinking about it. Hunter Henry is injury wrote his
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: entire life. I mean, he has been one injury and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: after another. So how much have you gonna invest in
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: him when his availability has not been great in his career?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He's only twenty six. Okay, I'm just telling you that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: You know, go look at games played compared to years
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of service, not real good, multiple needs, blown out knees,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and he's played in all fourteen this year though, I'm
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: just telling you. Am I wrong about that? No? No,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: he's had some injuries. Okay, so and uh and so
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: then and the other thing. The thing about free agency
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: is how many guys are you going to overpay? Because
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you have to overpay in free agency just the way
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it is. So you can overpay Henry Trent Williams, Henry,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Uh Hendrickson and uh won't be that much. Hendrickson won't
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: be a big dollar, but you're gonna pay more than
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: their worth free agency. So you're gonna overpay for all
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: four of those guys, maybe at least three of them.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna get them all. The other
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: option would be to draft to tackle with the second
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: first round pick, which also was helped out by the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: way with the Rams losing yesterday. And but you think
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a rookie tackle would have a tough I actually like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: because how Trent Williams so he probably three three four years.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I actually like to play, excuse me, of a Trent
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Williams as your left tackle. I were in and go
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: because such a deep draft with tight ends, drafted tight end,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you can do that. You can do that. That's another option.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I like that too. You take Trent Williams and your
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: left tackle and your draft. You're not gonna get pits
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: with that second first round pick. You might get the kids.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen Hunter Long
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: from Boston College, heck of a player. You know you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: got the kid at Penn State. There are tight ends available, yes,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So that that's another option. Just pay leave Henry alone,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: pay the left tackle and go draft a tight end.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And by the way, all the best Titans in football
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: right now are rounders. No, no, none of them know
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you're talking about Wall or they found him on the street.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: He got yet in the middle of the round. Yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: so let's come back. I mean, well, uh, fans pretty
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: good for Denver. He was the first rounder, right and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the kid from Hawkinson is pretty good from detail. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you can but again again though, you're like, I saw
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: one of our guys at CBS. I love him. He
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: did a mock drafted at Kyle Pitt's going fourth overall,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You're not drafting the tight end fourth overall. You're just
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Let's let's come back defensive talk.
• 31:37
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• 31:40
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  Speaker 1: It's everybody out there for the holidays. I get it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And his birthday is Christmas Day, so we're gonna, you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: have his birthday and Christmas and the whole deal. So
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how much food you shovel
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: into that mouth. Well, it's gonna be a lot. We
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: actually today my dad and in my uh every for
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: twenty three years they've packed like turkey dinners and gave
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: it to like homeless shelters and churches there. So we
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: went over there this morning to his office and me
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and all my kids, all my nieces and nephews, brothers
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and sis. There's everything impact five turkey dinners in boxes
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and sent him off to different people. So that was good. Cool,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: so packed when he's packing it over here. There was
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: no eating of the turkey beers. There might have been
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a few sweet rolls in the office that I have
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: partaken off. You know what. You know what we're at
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: that time of year, we're all saying January first, right,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: we'll start again. It is so true, like I find
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: myself like making allowance it should be more bad food
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: because I' like I'm going to die cam first. You
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: start going to go outside and work out in that cold,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: aren't you? Probably not. That's not gonna happen. It's not
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. Not gonna happen. So all right, let's get
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to the defensive side yesterday, because we must. That didn't
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: go well either, by the way, they had the interception
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: on the opening drive, but the penalty during the return
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: got it back to the one yard line, and two
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: plays later there was a safety. But the totals yesterday
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Showburn had twelve tackles led the way Jared Wilson. That's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: never good when your free safety has ten solo tackles,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and then Miles jack had another ten tackles. Yesterday, Want
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Smooth had a sack. But there's not a lot positive
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: defensively yesterday. Let's be honest. They did slow down the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: running game of Lamar Jackson. That was a focus obviously,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: but it opened up everything else. It felt like, yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I think the most part, the biggest positive is the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: fact halftime. You know, Lamar Jackson had five carries for
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: three yards. The problem was you were down twenty six
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: nothing and so you did bottle up and they had
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a good game plan. I thought they tackle in the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: open field well against Lamar Jackson, but the play action
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Pat really heard him. Those guys running wide open in
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field, we knew that was gonna
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: be an issue. UM. And then just a simple off
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: tackle players. They just ran downhill with j K j
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: K Dobbins and Gus Edwards and they were physical, so
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: they really didn't need Um Lamar Jackson and his legs
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to get it going. I mean they pretty much handled
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and dominated the line of scrimmage from from get go.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, no, I got on the plane, flew out,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: um here, got here late last night, and then then
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you know stuff in turkeys today. I was just I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: watched the game. I haven't watched the tape, but I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: was just looking at PFF's grades and they've been high
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: on Miles jack all year long as one of the time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Damn is the lowest rated defensive player on the team yesterday. Yeah, yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch. I didn't watch the tape, so I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: don't want to comment with one. Giles Harris is the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: number one ranked UM player on the team. Yeah, not
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: as many raps. I mean only snaps go it goes
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like this, Giles, Harris, Gostus, Smoot, Claybrooks, Herndon, Brian who
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: only played sixteen snaps. UM read Coston, So some of
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the like Chase on another bad Grade show, Bert bad Grade, Well,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I think some of the interesting things, you know, being
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: just as I was reflecting on the defensive game, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: we haven't made much about it in the last three weeks.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Hayman Briant, a thrower first round pick three years ago,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: has played sixteen snaps, seventeen snaps and sixteen then non factory.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I mean I forgot you're almost playing yesterday. I mean
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you talked about I mean you look at that defense,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and we talked about the draft and everything else, you know,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: as far as how do you rebuilding? What do you do?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: You know? And you talk obviously all the all the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: attention and energy is around Trevor Lawrence, as it should be,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, no kidding. I mean that's
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the best player in college football. Um, but the defensive
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of work to do in that
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: front seven. Um they I mean you hope Josh Allen
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: came back. You've been out with him for most of
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the year. They don't have anyone who can affect the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback by winning one on one very well, Dwayne wants
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: some moods. Where the best one if you really look
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: at it, and so you need to then you need
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to figure out you know, because I thought this is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: where you're gonna go when you started talking building this roster.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously you go quarterback, but then you need
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and then obviously you talked about protecting the quarterback and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in the loafensive line control line scriments. But then defensively,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I would say it's three main positions, maybe four. You need.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You need to pass edge rusher, You need a corner.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: You need a linebacker who can run. They got that,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and then really you need an interior rusher. If you
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: get those four out of the eleven, you can fill
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: in the rest of the spots and and and and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I say that, So how many of those four key
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: ones ed rusher, inside rusher, linebacker, corner do they have? Okay,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: well you should have an edge rusher and Josh Allen, well,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you hope, but I mean you didn't see this year
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Pet but he was dinged in everything. Yeah, but I'm
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: gonna better. Given the benefit of the doubt, you would say, yes, corner,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you drafted one in the top ten. He better be.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He played well at times he just
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: says inconsistent, said, I don't know, I'm not I'm not
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: ready to Are you ready to bet? You get to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: bet your career on it. But he plays seven games
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: this year. No, his first game was his best week
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: one was his best by the way. Okay, so dude,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: which one do you definitely did they have? They don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: have and I was jack, that's it. Yeah, that they
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: have one of the four. But they do have some pieces.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: They have a big body interior. Okay, let's just say
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: for sake of the argument that so the sake of
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the argument that they become that Robert Salim becomes the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: head coach. He probably we don't know if you will,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: he can, maybe you will. What defensive scheme does he
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: play and who plays on that defensive scheme? Well, he's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: gonna play three. Okay, it's gonna be more of a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: traditional Seattle cover three. I mean that's where he started
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and came from. He plays more variations and processing different
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: stuff on the back end. Um play more split safety stuff.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But he's a basic you know, okay, in that scheme,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: give me the down line. I mean, I think you
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: got Josh Allen, you know, hopefully where and then you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: play Hamilton's at the one, the one, and I think
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you and I think you gotta sign. I'd probably signed
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: back to want Dwan Smooth at the big end, one
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of those guys. I mean you can, by the way,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that big end. If you have Leonard Williams and Josh Allen,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you can go find a mid range guy. Okay, if
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: but if you go of passing situations, then what will
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it be? Well, you hope that means that Chason has
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to be something or else you have to find another one. Well,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you hope that Chason that the rusher. You hope he's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: like the board or one of those guys who can
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: come in on third down to just rush the pastor
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: like a wild man. That's what you want. And then
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and then if that's a scenario, then you got Shober
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and for another year and and and Jack and Schober
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: will be better if he's protected by guy like Leonard
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Williams and the Hamilton's front, and then your corners will
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: be Henderson and Sidney Jones. Well, I mean this. Here's
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: my concern about both those guys. Injuries. Yeah, I mean
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: part of the being a good player is being available.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: What about nickel corner? I like trads and nickel and
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: he's and you come on, he's dependent, Voic's physical, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you need to have a good nickel corner too. If
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you know what they're good, dude, they can go back
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and resigned Mike Hilton they want, he's unrestricted. I guess
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: my point is, I mean we are assuming. Let's say
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you don't get Leonard Williams, because the Giants are will
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: do everything they can try to sign them as well.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: But he's fun Daytona, so you have you know, I'm
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: just okay, you get say, get Letter. You don't get
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Letter Waives, but you could still you gotta address that
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: position a couple of them, dang right, you need to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: find somebody who can rush inside. How many guys playing
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: right now will be backups on that defensive line next year? Smooth,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: they're all backup. But how many you are gonna be
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: on the roster next year? That's what I'm saying. I
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: mean depends how many you go get. I mean that's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a loaded question. Constan will beyond that. Yeah, cost will
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: be there. Costs will be when you're big David David Brian.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think David Bryant makes the team.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I bet you trade them. Somebody will give you a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round, fifth rounder for former fourth round you.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of people who had them rated to
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: a first rounder coming out or six rounder. Trade to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, you can get a lobster roll. If you
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: trade him to Philly, you might get a Philly geese steak.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: To Cocko, you get a deep Trade him to California,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: get some good tacos. I mean wain to Come on,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna get for him, Tony? Well, somehow
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: we got something for uh, for Blaine Gabbert. Yeah, but
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, you know how that goes. Let's not
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: getting anything. You're not getting anything for him. We're up
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: against Let's take a time out. But but do you
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: think he makes the team? No, I don't think you don't.
• 46:38
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  Speaker 1: on an audio conference Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Our Final
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: moments of the first hour, JP, Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli.
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  Speaker 1: The Jags have dropped thirteen consecutive games, now one and
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  Speaker 1: thirteen record. They'll host the Chicago Bears this Sunday at
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: one o'clock at t I A. Bank Field. And you know, guys,
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  Speaker 1: like this scene on Sunday is going to be absolutely strange, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that fans in the stands. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be really really odd in that stadium?
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  Speaker 1: What's gonna be odd? How is it gonna be any
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  Speaker 1: more odd than the Pittsburgh game with the Browns game,
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  Speaker 1: where you had people cheering for the opposing team, you
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: had more Steelers and Browns fans in the stadium than
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you did Jaguar fans. How is that going to be
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: any different? With the Bears fans coming from an excellent point.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Never thought about it like that, but I think you'll
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: have the full or almost full support of the opposition. Um,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a little more than normal, which is weird. Yeah, I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it's gonna be anymore. I mean,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm I guess the bigger issue to me is it's
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: really how many people are gonna be at the game.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Because typically, as of late, you've seen it being a
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: lot of Steelers fans, Browns fans, people coming down from
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: up north to get a little bit better weather. You know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: we didn't see as many Titans fans. They don't really
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: travel as well. Um, but are the Bears fans gonna
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: come down from Chicago two days after Christmas. There's also
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of Bears fans around the country to Tony
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: and then remember when they won the Yeah, so you'll
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: see a lot of Bears fans because I've gotten the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Tampa games and way back in the day and they
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: were always Bears fans there. So there'll be Bears fans there.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: You know. It's funny you mentioned the crowd though, JP,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: because I was thinking about this before. If ever there's
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: a season to go one in fifteen, it's during a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: pandemic when you have no crowds going to the game anyway, right,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if they were one in fifteen in
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: a season when you're selling tickets, you might not be
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: able to how many people would be how many people
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: would legitimately legitimately be at the Bears Jaguars game, if
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you we're selling out the entire stadium. No, I mean,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I mean to your point, how many The question would
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: be how many Bears tickets pew, that would be that's
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: where you'd be selling your tickets. I mean that it's
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: just and so it worked. It. Look, if they don't
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: win the next two weeks and end up one in fifteen,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you got your one victory so you can't say you're
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: not one of those oh and sixteen teams and you're
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: still gonna pick first overall. No fans, nobody moaning and growing,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and now there's there's a reason for excitement, there's enthusiasts.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Be to your point. It's actually a good point. And
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I hate to say when you've actually nailed something, but
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you have here. If you're ever gonna have a really
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: bad season and go one in fifteen, and if it's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: ever gonna be like just miserable, do it when there's
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: more miserable things going on, like the pandemic and people
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: are you know, at least not able to come and
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: maybe more distracted and everything else. And do it on
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a year where there's a franchise quarterback. You could you
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: could have done it on a year when you picked
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Derek Fisher first overall. Yeah, could you imagine if this
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: is a year where there was no quarterbacks in the draft,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you were one of fifteen. So all things considered positive,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: it's a good year. It's a great year. It's it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the year that turns the franchise from being an afterthought.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And it also ran and nobody paying attention to something
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: that everybody in the country is gonna be to do
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: from now on. It's never happened before, never had the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: number one pick ever, and and nor has anybody paid
• 54:44
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  Speaker 1: Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli. Here's what's happened. The Jaguars lost yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: It's their thirteenth consecutive loss for fourteen. Was the final
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  Speaker 1: That's tying the franchise worst losing skid across seasons. From
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  Speaker 1: the last five games of twelve and the first eight.
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  Speaker 1: It's already extending the single season losing skid now thirteen
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  Speaker 1: with two to go. The Jets later in the day
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  Speaker 1: beat the Rams, So the Jaguars are in line for
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  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in the NFL Draft in
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the way I understand it if even no matter what happens,
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  Speaker 1: the strength of schedule would not change. If both my question,
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  Speaker 1: j there's no chance of you know, like what, everyone
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  Speaker 1: that's the case. So I mean it's middle school. In
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  Speaker 1: the perfect world, then you know what happened. In the
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  Speaker 1: perfect world, the Jets would win this weekend. M whoever
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  Speaker 1: they played the Browns, and we would not win this weekend. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to say that, but just trying to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I really think Trevor Lawrence will be a
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  Speaker 1: good guy to get at quarterback. But then the last
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  Speaker 1: week of the season, you can go all out and
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  Speaker 1: just win and there's no consequence. Wouldn't that be great?
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be great to finish the season beating the Colts,
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  Speaker 1: sweeping the Colts and still keeping that first overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: You know the Colts are good, right, don't really doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really matter. Wouldn't it be more fun? What I mean,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: heaven carries over. You're the first one who says that
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  Speaker 1: all the time doesn't carry over? Zero carry over? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what was it one year you guys beat the Browns
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the year. One year, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and somebody said that that car We lost seven straight games.
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  Speaker 1: The last yame of the years was against the Bill
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  Speaker 1: It was all Christmas. Yeah, it's Christmas. We beat it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: was Christmas Eve. Actually, um, we beat them up there
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  Speaker 1: me tell you all I remember about that game. It's
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  Speaker 1: never being happier that the season was over and I
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  Speaker 1: was not coming. I didn't have to be back at
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the facility for two months. Yeah, because but Coughlin tried
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  Speaker 1: to remember you, trying to insist to me that I
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  Speaker 1: carried over the next year, And I said, well, what
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: happened in the beginning of the season, No carry over? No,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I agree, what was the game? It was? The game
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  Speaker 1: was up there where Vaughn Dunbar ran wild on him.
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  Speaker 1: Later they get in the next Onesn't that right up
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  Speaker 1: Von Dunbar remember him. Yep. So it's um. It's quite
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: a seen around town today. Everybody reacting on social media,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: on talk radio and going into the coffee shop heard
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: it this morning. That's all everybody's talking about. Is the
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  Speaker 1: number one overall pick. You know what I really feel
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: bad for though, JP, Mark Brunel. He's now the other
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Jaguars score. Uh. Mark, I know you're out there listening.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I just had to take my shot at not yet,
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  Speaker 1: not yet, Peter already got him in the Pride of
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's funny. Not until the end of the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: h That's how you know he's got to play at
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: least before he's I know, I know Brunell and he
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: listens because he and he just drove off the road.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Trevor Horts is at least gonna take one snap before
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Come on, you can't do that. You can't do that.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: But but again, since Mark Brunell, he's the guy. This
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: is it, this is it. It's true. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: let's go through some of the names they've tried over
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: the years, right Byron, I didn't work out. I didn't
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: work out great. I mean, Gerrard was here, he was
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: the guy for a while, but they didn't like draft
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: him high. Um he was the Gerrard is actually the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: second best of the entire group. They had the most
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: success at least in that time. Friend, well, he was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the second best of the group. I don't know. If
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: you had to rank the quarterbacks on this team in
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: their history, Gard would be two. Who's three? Three? Blake
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: got him to the SC Championship game Ducks, He didn't.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: It didn't Blake through how many touchout passes? The Blake
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: through that one year? Yeah, but you can't. You can't
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: touchdown pass. I know, well, who's okay? Who went to further?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: He went further than Gerard? Did I know? Who? Would
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: you either have sued up at their prime border? That's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: why I said Gerard would be too. I'll give you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: another one. Who would you rather suit up at their
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: at their peace? Um? Jay Fieler or Bake Bortles, Jay Fiedler,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Jamie Martin, Jammy Martin won that? Good? What you say
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you backup quarterbacks is all I'm giving you
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Rob Johnson could have been better than all those guys
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: just for some reason. I don't know what you know
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: better than me? Why did they ever work out with
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Rob Johnson working out here? We got Fred Taylor worked
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: out perfectly here. Yeah, but I'm talking about in his
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: career here. I thought Rob Johnson had a chance to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: be really good. You played with him in college. What happened?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Didn't love it, didn't live it? No, I think he
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: loved it. He's a coach now, isn't he. Yeah, who
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: loved it? It's a longer conversation for you, and interesting.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: There were games where you watch Rob Johnson play and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: you go, oh my god, he's got everything you need.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: And and you know what, Tony with the way the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: game is played now, as athletic as he is. Yeah,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: so Rob's biggest issues He held onto it too long,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: he did he always wanted he never wanted to throw
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: it inter set incomplete pass, like just throw it away. Yeah, Rob,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Rob would be up there is one of the better ones, though,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's the problem. Relative game. He started
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: one game for us. It was good in that game, though,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: game you got us Red Tailor. There's no doubt about it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you that's I mean, that's the problem.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And then and then so who okay, but we're missing
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: it was Brunel. And then before we do this, think
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  Speaker 1: about this. You want to know why this this organization
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: has not been good since the nineties consistently. It's the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: conversation we're having right now. They haven't have quarterbacks since now. Correct? Correct?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, it's not that hard. Can
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: you imagine if okay, the team that David was on
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: that beat Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh in the playoff game and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: then lost to New England, if that team had like
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence on it, that would have been a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: super Bowl team, could have been a super Bowl team.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Well in so in that um New England game, offense
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: went back and forth. That was the game where Brady
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: had one incomplete pass. Yeah, they played zone coverage the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: whole time. It was like a seven off seven drill.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: That wasn't the offensive No, but yeah, you're right, but
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  Speaker 1: that remember they were so big and talented up front,
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  Speaker 1: but they weren't great on the back end. I don't know,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: but that was one. That was the year that New
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: England was undefeated. There wasn't a There wasn't Also, wasn't
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: an elite edge rusher on that team, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: and he was more of a power player than How
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: about these numbers that year two thousand seven for David
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Gerrard hundred yards and change, eighteen touchdowns, three interceptions. But
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: again in two Blake Bortles had that amazing year throwing
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Brunell held the team record with twenty. Forever
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: thinking thinking about that, twenty was the team record? Is
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: that good? If? If if Trevor Lawrence has a twenty
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: touchdown season after his first one, then he's then he's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: he's a bad pick. Okay, the way they came, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: he's already caught him a bust the wall. Now you're
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: saying he's a bust. Look, you should be throwing twenty
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in his first season. From there on out, it's a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: different game. I was I was looking at a like
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: through like ten games or something. Elway's numbers. Yea, it
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: was like he had liked ten touchdown seventeen picks. Com
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine if he played in today's Marino and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: all of them and the way the rules are and everything,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: they would light it up. They would be because in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: the old days, the middle of the field was shut
• 1:09:03
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• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: of those seam routes that they throw nowadays and cover two,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the dude was dead. Well, that's why. That's why the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: other day somebody came I think was Randy Moss came
• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Tarrell and Jerry Rice. J Jerry Rice. Come on, he
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't better than Jerry Rice. But also, you go back
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: in time, remember Paul Warfield and guys like that. They
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: got beat up at the line of scrimmage. There was
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: no illegal contact. You could beat them up all the
• 1:09:31
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• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: will change with it, let's hope in a few months time.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: So let's yes, j J. We No, we have to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: this is this cannot this cannot go forward anymore. I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: was looking at the end of the day in the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: last ten years, what this team has done. It can't
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: go forward. It can't. It's not I mean, it's not
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: sustainable to lose the way we've lost. And so that's
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: why I'm like Pete and I used to argue about
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: this all the time. Is I will always be the player.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Every game matters, you try to win the game. I'm
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: at the point now saying no, go get Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: You're in the position to get him. Don't screw it up.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Get Trevor Lawrence. I get what Doug saying, I get
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: what the players are saying. God bless him, A root
• 1:10:27
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• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: someone who covers this team and someone who loves his team,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: go get a quarterback. Because until you get that right,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: you're in trouble. He's come over to the dark side,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: and I brought him. I brought him into the abyss.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'm so as you're a media member now and you've
• 1:10:46
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• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not a media member. Yes you are. Oh yeah.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I gets already admitted that it's dark side. It's the
• 1:10:56
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• 1:10:59
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• 1:11:03
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• 1:11:06
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• 1:11:10
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• 1:11:14
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• 1:11:17
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• 1:11:22
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  Speaker 1: with some breaking news around the league today. The Pro
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  Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame has announced that Kevin Green has
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: passed away at the age of fifty eight. This has
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: announced just moments ago. He was a long time player
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  Speaker 1: with the Rams. Of course, three years with the Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers in the early days in Carolina and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: sixty career sacks. No word yet on the cause of death.
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  Speaker 1: But fifty eight years old, that's young for Kevin Green. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's Uh, it's shocking. And I knew Kevin played against
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Kevin and uh and then when he was the coaches
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: to talk to him before the games and great guy
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: saw him at the Hall of Fame events. Um, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: just it's you know, it's It's one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: It's one thing you know, we read on Twitter all
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: the time, and especially this pandemic for people you know,
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  Speaker 1: lose their battle, whether it's with COVID or or something
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: else or um, however it ends up happening. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: human nature is when you read their age and they're older,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like a little bit better about it because
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: they live in full life. And then when you see
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: someone at day to Kevin Green, you know, lose a
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  Speaker 1: battle to whatever happened, We're not sure yet. Um, it
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  Speaker 1: hits even closer to home. And then I'll tell you
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: guys when you know them personally. I mean, I played
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: against Kevin Green. I mean we battled on the field.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, And I'm just sitting here thinking as I
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: was reading, I was texting Pete about the twenty minutes
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: ago JP. When I found out about it is it's like,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: holy cow. I mean, what happened? So um thoughts and
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: prayers with his family and all his loved ones and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: uh it said obviously too soon. A great player. What
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: a great pass rusher he was? He was dominant that much.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was awesome man. He was a power,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: power play. He'd still run. You could still get up
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  Speaker 1: the field, Tony, I bet did. You didn't match up
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: a lot with him, though you were mostly with Greg Lloyd, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Lloyd and uh Gilden and uh Chad Brown. He
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: was a left end. His whole creazy. He was a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: left end. Whether it was Carolina Rams or for Pittsburgh,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: he was a left It was tough man. He could
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: rush the pass where he's physical, playing the run game
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: really powerful. Yeah. Yeah, sad news. And I mean, what, Tony,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: what do you by the way, I just well, I'm
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: not on the group text. I just found that out too.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: What in the world was that about. It wasn't a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: group text. It was just something I actually saw JP
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I UM. I saw it on Twitter um about twenty
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: minutes ago earlier than like. No one was reported it
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't and I searched for it and no
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: one was on but one individual was. I said a
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: tweet my buddy might text me about it. It was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: a big Steeler fan. I'm like, ah, is that true?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: So I actually text Pete. I said, Pete, is this true?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: And he said yes, So it's sad man, It's it's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: just sad way too young. Um. You know, and and
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: the sad thing is nowadays everybody looks to see if
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: it was from COVID, and you know, whatever, it doesn't matter,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: he's too young. Whatever, he died of thoughts and prayers
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: to this family. Alright, guys, let's move along now to
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: social questions. This we put the bat signal out early
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  Speaker 1: in the day every Monday, and this is the best
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  Speaker 1: we've come up with today. Let's start with number one.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: At Sam, I am shere thirteen. I really enjoy your show.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Do you guys think more teams should just
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: use the kicker as the punter. No. In fact, I
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: was going to bring that up, but we got so
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: into the Jets and Trevor Lawrence and everything else. Um,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I was shocked at the the Jacksonville Jaguars during a
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: pandemic and what's going on with COVID did not have
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: a punter on the practice squad that they could bring up,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: that they would go into a game, and NFL game
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: with a guy who has never hunted in his life
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: at any level. He's a kicker. Just because you can
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: kick doesn't mean you can punt. In the fact that
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: that's bad. It's a terrible decision, like what do you like?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Why don't we have a guy? I mean, COVID is
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: a situation where you don't know when someone's gonna get it,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: get it at home, and get it anywhere. It's not
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: like you know, I don't think Logan Cook was being reckless.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: It just happens in today's world that stinks. And hopefully
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Logan is okay, that's the biggest that's the most important.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: But why would you not have a backup and a
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: key position that's not easy to replace? The mystery? Yeah,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't know who decision that is
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: now that uh David has gone, and I assume it's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Trem Balki and Doug Moron or some some accommodation it.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: But I was shocked that they did not have a
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: backup leutter yeah, and no you don't. It didn't matter.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean it didn't matter in the grand things. But
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: they used to be guys that did both well. Logan
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Cook can do both well. Could he be a regulation
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: field goal kicker? Yes or no. I've talked to Jo
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: d ca Milson. He said if he worked at it,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: he could be a regular field Remember Russell Erks Laban
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: and Steve Little and guys like that back in the day.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: They were drafted because they could went in the first round,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: I think, and he was drafted because he could do
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: both logan cooking and I think he said it JP
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: craigman Broun, he's more comfortable kicking a fifty yarder than
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: a extra point because he can just kick it right, Yeah,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: because he just let it go. I think his is
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: just an accuracy that he has to get some reps
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: at it. But the point is, you know you don't
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: have a guy in Rosas and can punt. Why are
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: you counting on him to be your backup punter. That's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. But it didn't matter. I mean, but my goodness,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: could you manage if that cost you the game? Where
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: like the ball went through his hands, I mean like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: he was booming, he was booming thirty yards. Well remember
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: the one that went through his hands was another thirty
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: yards on top of it after he fumbled it. So
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: it's like fifty yards in the year. Yeah, But my
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: point is it's like a thirty yard I mean what
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just we're talking about. It's a bad it's a
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: bad roster decision. They messed that up. Period question number
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: two at fit jag Chick. Assuming the Jags continue to
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  Speaker 1: be bad, what do you do with your second first
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: round pick after taking Trevor with the first pick? Old line,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle safety question mark? It depends what you do
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: in agency. Yeah, Like you can't just say what you do.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, like if you get Trent Williams at left
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: tackle and Leonard Williams at three techniques like Pete was
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: talking about, well, then I'm probably picking a tight end
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: the deep tight end draft. I mean, there's a lot there. Um.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: You can always go back to the old you know,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: and again it depends what you get. Creazy can go
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: pick the best player available. I actually think right now,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: with the makeup of your roster, you are in a
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: situation where you need help everywhere. Like, tell me one
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: position position group outside of running back, because I'm not
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: drafting your running back in the first round no matter what,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: So take running back off the table. Tell me one
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: position group you couldn't draft somebody in the first round
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: that would help them be better. Correct, there's not one.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: We've gone over this. Yes, we'll pick the best player.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Miami had an undrafted running back
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: named Akmed from Washington rush for about a hundred and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: thirty yesterday and they're everywhere ever, Draft one. Our next
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: question from at PAULI Dobson. Who will be voted into
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame first for the Jaguars,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Tony was Sally or Trevor Lawrence? Come on, people, do
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: the right thing and vote Tony in this year. Tony
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: is still waiting. By the time Trevor Lawrence is eligible,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I'll probably be gone. Come on, that's that's a good question.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: That's funny. It's a funny question. That's a funny question. Yeah,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: funnies getting in this year? Just all virtual, I have
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: a virtual zoom party after the celebraion. Oh my gosh,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: that'll be appropriate to that in virtually alright. Next question
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: from No One Muhammad one. Hi, guys, do you see
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: any chance of us giving the first pick for either
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Dak or Herbert in return for a bunch of other
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: picks with the deal and maybe trade down for a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Wilson or Fields or is Lawrence the done deal? Love
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you guys from London. Hashtag duve all Okay, hold on,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: are you talking to Justin Herbert? The Lost Angeles. Charges
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: are not trading for Justin Herbert, and nor would you
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: would you trade the first pick for Dak uh No, No,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't, not with his ankle and jury. I don't
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: think I would, but drade for him anyways. No, So
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: here's it's like you would only do it if you
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: wanted to de risk the situation. Like I think Trevor
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Lawrence will be better than Dak Prescott. I do, but
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: there's risks there because he's never done it. Like you know,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Dak is a good player. Wouldn't do it now? And
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: now if I was in the same scenario where I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: had the second pick, Hey, Cowboys, you want the second pick,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: I'll take Dak for it. So here's a question. So,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: if you're the second pick, would you trade the second
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: pick overall for Justin Herbert? Right now? I would? I
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: might trade the first pick for Justin Herbert. Okay, there's
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: so yeah, like right now you had to take that's
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: where and listen, I'm all in Trevor Lawrence. There's no
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: doubt about it, But there's always risk. I mean, first
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: overall picks don't work out some time, right, But but
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: but looking at this group and the way they both
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: those that group, and this the way you evaluate him
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: come in you would say that Lawrence was better than
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Herbert coming into them in college. Yes, but very few
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: people projected Herbert being this good, this fast in the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: NFL and did I like them to people, But even
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: you would not say he is like what he did
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: on Monday night against the Raiders or I mean Thursday night,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Thursday against the Raiders was unreal. Yeah, this is Marino
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: like stepping in and just playing. That's Marina liked. There
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: a few guys that can flickt the risk to make
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: those throws like he can make. Yeah, I agree, and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: by the Chargers might not do that them move I'll
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: bet you right now Tom Tolasco and said, hey, I'll
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: give you the first overall pick for Justin Herbert. No,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: no thanks, we're good, would either. Our next question from
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: that JAG five, If you're the owner, because we know
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: the coaches are doing everything to game plan and their
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: power to win, are you making an executive decision to
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: rest and put injured starters on injured reserve in order
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: to secure the first overall pick slash a one and
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: fifteen record. No, you can't do that. If you're shotgun.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: It's it's well, forget about it. Even if it didn't matter,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: it's called the integrity of the game. You cannot do that.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: You play the game, as Herm Edwards said, you played
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: the game to win. And if okay, now, if James
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: Robinson has banged up a little bit, do you sit
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: them how I banged up? Boy? He had an ankle
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: injury yesterday. I would say, how you know that's the trainer?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Can you play? Can you can? You heard it worse
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: it's the trainers. Yeah, like there's a high risk he
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: can't play. But there's issues that could linger into next
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: year that I'm saying, I'm not playing the trainer a
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: little extra something in the Christmas album to say he can't.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: You can't do that. You know, player and plus players
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: want to play. There's only so many games in so
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: many years. You have to play the game. You want
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: to play. Everybody, he says him, he wants to play,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: like doing it, especially a running back. He only has
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: so many games in him. You want to play and
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: you don't go. If you're an owner of a team,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: you try to tank. You can't football because now you're
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: risking people like it's dangerous guys, get hurt, get the
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: right side of things. You're in such a great situation
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: that you don't need to try a dank. It happens naturally, right,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: see what happened yesterday. Let's move along our final question
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: from that DJ delfonic, Pete, since you were higher on
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen of the Bills than anyone else in media,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: who would you draft of Allen and Lawrence were in
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: the same class right now or in the same in
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: the same class, I probably take Trevor Lawrence. Okay, do differently.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Right now, you're the first overall pick. You can take
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or you can take acquire h Josh Allen
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: and assume his contract. Which one are you doing? His
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: contract isn't that bad? That's what I'm saying. No, I'm
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: just saying, but he's on your team, like I might take.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I probably think Josh Allen over Trevor Lawrence. I think
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen just I think Josh Allen is a star
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: right now, I think But when I've heard what I've
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: heard you say, and I'm not saying I'm discreet, by
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the way, Pete, you would say you would call them
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: if you're sitting here with the Jaguars before you drafted
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you would call um Tamma Bennett at the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and say, hey, Um, I'll give you the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: first round draft pick, my first over, I'll pick for
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And then if they said no, then you
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: would call Tom Tusco with the Los Angeles Chargers say
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: he would you and either one which trayed him, by
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: the way, neither one as good as we think Trevor
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Lawrence is. You're you're right though. These guys are showing
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: they can do it, you know, right, Like Josh Allen
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: is a different guy. You can just see it when
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: he plays. You saw him Sunday night against Saturday night
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: against the Broncos, comes to Lin Firs, looks at it's easy.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: You can see the confidence using fires a rifle shot
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: in there. He that wasn't who he was last year
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: or the year before. You saw the talent. But he's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: become a different quarterback and that team is dangerous because
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: he can play like that. So yeah, I would consider
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: that trade. But look, if Trevor Lawrence is who you're
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: stuck with, I could deal with that. Oh no, Yeah,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: this is a This is less about Trevor Lawrence. It's
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: about it's about knowing what you have that's right about having.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing. What you hope is that two
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: years from now, some other poor team, it's the worst
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: team in the NFL, has the first overall pick, and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: they're looking at you and calling, hey, I'll trade you
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: the first overall pick for Trevor Lawrence. You're gonna no,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: I'm good, I know I got my guy. There's nothing
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: you could give me would you have? I mean, there
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: were a lot of teams that would have traded that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: when Andrew Luck was coming out, that wouldn't, wouldn't that
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: had good quarterbacks that said no. Though, Like for example,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: when Andrew Luck was coming out, if you had asked
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: the Lions, would you trade Matt Stafford for Andrew Luck?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: They probably would have said no. But now in hindsight
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: they might have said yes. Right well, seeing that Luck
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: retired after eight years, maybe not, you know, when you
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: gotten blasted like he did in Detroit either, you know.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Stafford was the first pick of the draft.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: And and there's a perfect example, and thats been No,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: it's not been a bed of roses. No, he hasn't
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: won a playoff game yet. No, but they didn't have.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: But he's also that was the the cap was for
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: for him out wrong. Here's the thing, because it's not
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: just about getting the right quarterback. You have to get
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: the right head coach. You gotta get the right GM
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: got you gotta build the team the right way. And
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: that's my whole point to everyone was talking about this. Listen,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: you need the quarterback. The quarterback is the most important position.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: But if you don't build around him and build the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: right culture around him, you're not gonna do anything. It'll
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: be it'll be the same old, same old. Yeah. But
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: they also had his star receiver retired early. I mean
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: that hurt him a little bit. There's a lot of
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: things in at play I get it, but the quarterbacks,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: but they were also when nine games with how many
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: team nine games? Three times they fired them, I know,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: and they hired the wrong guy. My point, I mean,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: if you look at I mean, who's been the head
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: coaches since Matthew Stafford's been quarterback there, it was called well,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to think of who it was
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: before him. I remember that's how that's how impactful it
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: was was it was it? Marty morning Wick. No, he
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: was waiting for that. That was back in the um
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: right after Steve Mary back in the oh. Here you go,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: here we forget lever forgot this one. Jim Schwartz. That's right. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: you never had the right guy. And Jim Schwartz is
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: a very good defense coordinator, don't get me wrong. But
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: here's the situation where you drafted the number one overall
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: pick that everyone said, Matthew Stafford is a stud can
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: sling it good player and by the way, signed a
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: second contract and made Pro Bowls, done all that. But
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: you guess it's not just about that guy. You need
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: that guy, Pete. Let's look at the list of coaches
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: that they've had since two thousand and one. Ready, yeah,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: well let me I'll even go interim coaches. Count two.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Gary Mueller he was defensive coordinator. Here, Marty morning Wag,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Steve Merryugi. Remember he was just cashing a check at
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: the end. Dick Geron when he was the interim coach,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: he was des Rod Maranelli, great defensive cordinator. Jim Schwartz
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the defense corterare Jim called well, I mean he nine
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: wins he was six in his sixty four games, he
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: was thirty six and Pa Patricia. So think about that.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Of their coaches and the one to three, three of
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: the last four coaches have been defensive coaches. Um, I
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: don't know, hir defensive guys are wrong not hired. Hired
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: because they didn't probably vet who he's gonna hire as
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: his offensive That's the key. If you're gonna go defense,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: you better that defensive head coach gotter have a great
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: plan on offense. Like and here's the thing I'm hoping
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: if they interview as Shan Khan and they have this
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: process when they interview coaches, like the questions you need
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: to be asking is regardless of you're an offense or
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: defensive coach, tell me your plan for a young quarterback
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: because we're going to invest the future of this franchise.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: And a guy named Trevor Lawrence branded everything stage the
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: same for the next two weeks. What is your plan?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: What is the plan? Who's your coordinator, what's the process?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: How do you handle them? How do you take the pressure?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: How do you limit distractions for this kid? And those
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: are the things you gotta know, and you better have
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: a plan for being in Jacksonville is one way to
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: limit distractions. That's a good thing. Well, but here's the thing.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: For big, big, big, maybe national distractions, but being a
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: small market where they haven't had any real success, everyone's
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: gonna want a piece of them, and so you have
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: to protract him. You have to protect him, and you
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: don't let him do media every day, and you don't
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: let every Tom you know, and you know and Joe
• 1:35:00
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• 1:35:02
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• 1:35:04
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• 1:35:06
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• 1:35:09
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• 1:35:12
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• 1:35:15
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• 1:35:16
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  Speaker 1: Tony BURSELLI, thanks for the social questions, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: we appreciate those. Today. We put out the signal early.
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  Speaker 1: off the rams, so everybody's freaking out. One pick, Yes, Tony,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: I was just I meant to bring this up earlier,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: but you know, I'm curious give any idea why Pete
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: Presco is wearing a call center headset tonight. It's a
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: great question because it looks like he's working at the
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  Speaker 1: call center or the drive through. Well, I know you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: know what it is. By the way, nothing wrong with
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up doing that. I think it's great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious. I'm trying to describe everyone listening what
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: the headset looks like. What's the headset? Because because I
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: didn't wear my earbuds, because I'm connected on a different
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  Speaker 1: computer so I can work on this one. See. By
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  Speaker 1: the way you're asking questions, I have another question to ask.
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  Speaker 1: I knowed the show open, No, I know the show open.
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  Speaker 1: Today I noticed it said also coming up Prisco and
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  Speaker 1: Basselli on the show. And we've done that all year long.
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  Speaker 1: Is it your show? And we're just appendages and add something?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: But well he's up for the award. But that it's
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: week fifteen. Come on, I know what's been happening. I
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: thought it was like once every once in a while,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: but every single week, Oh, coming up on the show.
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  Speaker 1: We'll also like we're guests on no no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: here's that this is I'm basically just the narrator and
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: you guys are the top of the Marquis Briscoe, Basselli.
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  Speaker 1: It's always the first one three that it's kind of
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• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: certainly not that today. I'll say that that's what he
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: would like it to be. Pete, so get a word
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: there and dreams and daydreams at his desk. That's what
• 1:41:15
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• 1:41:19
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• 1:41:24
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  Speaker 1: the roof heard that the first hour last week was phenomenal.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: He came to the ratings. Well, no, I just gotta
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• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: more hours now of that show. It's amazing. They want
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: to double this show every Monday. Let's go around the
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: night from football. Hell him straight. I wish I was playing.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: I really was. Hey, let's um, let's go around the NFL.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: We'll hit some games now, we'll take a time out,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: will hit the rest of him and do Monday Night.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: If that's okay with everybody, that's good, hosts, Is that cool?
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: We're good? All right. Let's start with the Thursday night
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Chargers over the Raiders. We already talked about briefly. That
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: fantastic playing that game from Herbert, but a big win
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: for the Chargers over the Raiders and overtime. Yeah, Marcus
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: Mariota comes off the bench and he plays well, and
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, well, he should be starting somewhere. He
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: had every opportunity to be a starter. Not very good.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: He's he's better than the backup, but not quite enough,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: good enough to be the guy. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: He's like me. In the perfect world, he would be
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: a great backup. That's the guy you want. Yeah, here,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: a low grade starter. He'd start today if he was
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: here right now. They got a low right Saturday, Bills
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: over the Roncos. The Bills fans were piling into the
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: airport to greet them upon arrival. It's a it's a
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: great story because it's Buffalo and for so long it's
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: been you know, they you know, the last couple of
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: years under Sean the Germot, they've been to the playoffs,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: but not to the level they are now. And what
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: people forget, I mean when I was in high school
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: and college and the Bills were one of the best
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: teams in the a f C. I mean they were
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and j Reid Thurman, Thomas Bruce Smith, Phil Hanson.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: I mean just you know, b b Um just go
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: down the list of like great players and then for
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: so long they were so bad. Um. But it's a great,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: great fan base. And you saw him show up late
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: at night. It was cool. I love it. They have
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: a good makeup and I think they might be the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: best team in the a f C that's not named
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I mean, I think the best team by
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: the way, Uh, you know the Bills with the four
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: straight Super Bowls and lost all of them. Going to
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: four straight Super Bowls might be an accomplishment that's never
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: ever duplicated. You know how hard that is. I mean,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: I know, but Tony, they don't get the appreciation that
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: that's almost impossible to go to fort nowadays, the way
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: the league is constructed, with free agency and everything, it's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: almost impossible to go to four straight super bowl right, Well,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: it's almost bowl franchises. Leaving the head coach. They were
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: really good. They were great. They were up tempo on
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: offense before everybody else were. You loved it. And then
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: but they could run it too. By the way, that
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: celebration that the Bills had, it's because they solved their
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: quarterback position in Jacksonville two or three years you'll be
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: having the exact same thing people waiting at the airport.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: I hope. So Saturday also the Packers over the Panthers,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: and the Pack is in pretty good shape right now, Pete.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: And they didn't play very well though, they kind of
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: lolligag through that game, kind of like they did against
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars when they played emarlier in the year. They're
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: they're one of those teams that when they played down
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: to the competition sometimes and that I guess Tony knows
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: better than me because he played that can happen sometimes. Well,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: I always say that it's the delta between the really
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: good teams and the really bad teams isn't as big
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: as whatever one thinks it is. I mean, they were closer.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: This isn't college football where it's just like show up
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: and play um. And so if you're not at your
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: top and a team that's not quite as good as
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: playing good football to be a close game, We've seen
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: that this year at the Jaguars. But it was interesting
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: zactly turned it off beat after a while because they
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: green baking and dominated early like it was like they
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: were going to run away with it. And then I
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: turned I turned the game back on later because I
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: was doing something else. My wife came home and I'm like,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: what what happened? It's a close game at the end.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It was crazy. They just got caught in
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: a little one of those deals where they had a lull,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: and the next thing they looked up and there was
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: a game. The Falcons blew another lead, Old Buccaneers over
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Atlanta and they did it again. I'm on this text
• 1:46:04
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• 1:46:08
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• 1:46:11
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• 1:46:14
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• 1:46:16
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• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: They're like if it's like fourth pick or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys over San Francisco forty one, thirty three. Both
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: these teams now five and nine. Tony Pollard had a
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: good game. Ezeka really didn't play. Tony Pollard stepped in
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  Speaker 1: and had a pretty good game. Two touchdowns, rushed for
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  Speaker 1: about seventy yards and caught a couple of called about
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  Speaker 1: sixty yards of passes. It goes back to your point,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Man, you gotta be really careful. Not only do
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  Speaker 1: you not draft running back early, um, you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: careful how much you pay him to Now, the flip
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  Speaker 1: side of that is you look at Derrick Henry and
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  Speaker 1: they're getting every dollars dollar worth they got at him,
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  Speaker 1: but he didn't sign anything near the deal that Ezekiah
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  Speaker 1: the guys are signed the big contracts a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago, Girlie, David Johnson, Elliott, Levian Bell. None of
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  Speaker 1: them have worked out to where they're supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: None of them. Derrick Henry has the right. He's on.
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  Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's he got a decent deal, but but
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  Speaker 1: years is Camara Um Christian McCaffrey, who got nothing this
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  Speaker 1: this year? I guess those are the only two. But okay,
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey signed the deal you got nothing out of. You
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  Speaker 1: But he hasn't. He hasn't been what they thought he
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  Speaker 1: what he can do? I don't think they use him enough,
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  Speaker 1: but you have signed him. I'm asking you this, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: they signed I wouldn't have given him the mega deal.
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  Speaker 1: But McCaffrey and and and Camara two different kind of
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  Speaker 1: backs though, you know, because they're they're in space and
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  Speaker 1: Final moments of Jaguars Happy Hour on this month day
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  Speaker 1: after the Jaguars lost to the Ravens. J P Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Basselli, I should reverse that order, Tony Basselli.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco is like a distant second, and then I'm
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  Speaker 1: way down third. But what the hell are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick get it right, um, Pete, I hate to break it,
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  Speaker 1: dear your second fiddle on the show. No no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no. Without me, it would just be to YouTube
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  Speaker 1: it was better than this. I know that. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: felt sorry for you, or Prisco is a good thing,
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  Speaker 1: they told me, and you get so many people have
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  Speaker 1: just they were just glad I was part of the
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  Speaker 1: j P. Shaderick Joe for Yeah, that's not true. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go around the league. Let's finish it up. Colts over
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  Speaker 1: the Texans. Twenty of the Colts have enough to overtake
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  Speaker 1: it a little getting late now in the in the
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  Speaker 1: season to overtake in the division. Yeah, but the Titans
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: have to play this week will decide. The Colts play
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Titans play the Packers on the road.
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  Speaker 1: That will decide it. You know what I think it is.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: I think they both I think they both went out.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Tits are winning the Lambeau this week? Yeah,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: you're telling me that. You're telling me, but Rogers, Rogers,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: that's what the Browns did to him. That's exactly. Here's
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  Speaker 1: here's the deal. Though, Derrick Henry is gonna rush for
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: eight thousand yards against that soft Packers defense. You know
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  Speaker 1: what it's gonna be. It's gonna be a throw for seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then grind, grind, grind, grind. You get
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown, one, maybe we ripping off, you get one,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: then you get a field goal, and next thing you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's fourteen ten and it's twenty one dead. There's seventeen seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that, Listen. I'm not saying the
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  Speaker 1: Packers are gonna I'm not gonna win that game. I'm
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: just saying it wouldn't surprise me if both you said
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: they're both winning out. Okay, I mean you said I
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me both of them went out, is my point. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: But like I was before, I was trying to make Peters,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it matter I don't know if the
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: Colts can do enough to come back because they're here's
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: the problem with the Colts. Suddenly their defense was carrying
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: the team and the offense was kind of dormant. Now
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: the offense is starting to play better and the defense
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: is kind of having some issues. They only give up
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: twenty points, I mean, well, Q otherwise they go to overtime.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you're right, there's no doubt about that. And
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: I mean the more likely scenario is that they both
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: lose this week coming up, that the Steelers beat the Colts,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: and that the you know, and the Packers beat the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: In the next week. They're both gonna win because they're
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: playing the Texans and the Jaguars. And so it's probably
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: my point, my whole point of what I was trying
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: to say, not do a very good job, is I
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: think the Titans win this division, and I think the
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: culture in the world are the Titans. Yet, where's the
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Titans Texas game? Stand by, I'll get that to you
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: because that that could matter. Titans are at the Texans
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: in Houston. Yeah, that that's a lot I'll tell you what,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: It's a lot tougher game then the season than the
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: Colts have. Yes, but have you seen that defense and
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: did you see what Derrick Henry did to him the
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: first time play? I agree, but Watson can throw it
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: around a little bit, and that defense is terrible for
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: the Titans. I'm just saying, I think both of them.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: I think the Titans. Let me stop here, because we've
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: unpacked this enough. I think the Titans win the division,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: that's all. I think the Colts win in division. Two
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. We'll find out. The Titans, of course, beat
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: the Lions to five, the Dolphins over the Patriots, and
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are out of the playoffs the weeks ago.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: I said this yesterday on our show, Bill Belichick, the
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: coach has done a good job with this team, Belichick,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: the personnel guy has done an awful job with this team.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: They stick and what happened to Cam Newton. He's done.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: They should play stid him this week and they're talking
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: about it. Mhm. The Jets. I bet you. I'll bet
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: you the Jets beat him the last week of the year.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe that would be good. I thought he would lay
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: down in the last week of the year and if
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: he had to, But he doesn't have to yet, right
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: now Bears over the Bike's thirty three twenty seven. The
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Bears still need all these games down the stretch too, well,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: they need they need to win their last two. And
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: you know, if there's a tie and three teams are tied,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: I think they get the tiebreaker. If the Rams, Bears
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: and Cardinals I think are tied, I think the Bears
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: get the tiebreaker over the Rams. Believe they or not.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: So Bears are still alive. Trabisky is playing much better,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: which begs the question, why the hell did they trade
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: for Nick foles Um. Yeah, thanks, I was surprised. I
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: was surprised that the Vikings lost with Dalvin Cook going
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: over Hunter yards. Usually when he goes the rhunder yards,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: they win. I think they couldn't stop him and then
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: and but the Bear still won. I couldn't stop him.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Seahawks over Washington twenty fifteen. The Cardinals beat the Eagles
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: thirty three. Jalen Hurts is pretty good in that game,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, and go back and go back to
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: the Washington football team. Watch out for that team in
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: the future. Really good defensive front. Dar Rio has done
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: a good job. They are a pain in the rear
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: end of block and Uh, if they get something going
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: on offense in the future. As I said, we're gonna
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: get something going on offense if they don't get a
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: quarterback there Like the Jaguars when they had all those
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: good guys playing on their defensive line. The Chiefs keep
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: finding away. They beat Saints, and the Browns are amazingly good.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Kenstefanski might be the coach of the year. It's fair.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: He's gonna argument, okay. I mean that Browns team was
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: terrible last year and he turned it around and they
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: had they're playing well. They should beat the Jets this week,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: then they play the Steelers in the final week of
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: the season. I mean, he's done a great job with
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: that team. They're tough and tony, and go back to
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: what you say all the time. Fix that line and
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be darn good on offense. That line might
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: be the best line of football. It is the best line.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, it's a battle on the bank to
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: the Ohio River in Cincinnati at Paul Brown Stadium. The
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: two ten and one Cincinnati Bengals without Joe Burrow. They'll
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: entertain the eleven and two and suddenly normal Pittsburgh Steelers,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: who you got tonight. And since in the a f
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: C North, bad game, Bad game, Take take, the Steelers
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: are gonna dominate this game. It's a perfect chance for
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: them to get their offense down the field better. You know,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: they haven't been driving the ball down the field. They
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: haven't been running no James Connor. But they'll run the
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: ball at night. They went big. This would be interesting.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: Last time they played him, they say, packed them four
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: times and just abused him. T J. Watt against Bobby Hart.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: Keep an eye on that. That should be fun to watch.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: That's a fair fight, all right, guys, Tony and people,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: have a great week. Happy holidays, fellas, have a good Christmas.
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• 1:59:18
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• 1:59:28
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