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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, January second. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game is in two hundred and forty two days,
- 0:07the Game of cons Fishigan in three hundred and thirty three days. We're gonna
- 0:10be dropping this one a little earlier in the day than we typically do for
- 0:14these episodes, but that's because it's sort of a breaking news episode. A
- 0:18couple Ohio state wide receivers hit the transfer portal on New Year's Eve, so
- 0:24we're gonna be talking about it today. We're gonna be doing that with their
- 0:26buddy, Tony Gerdiman of Buckeyhuddle dot com. Tony remember his last spring coming
- 0:31up with a little mnemonic to remember how to spell Noah Rodgers' name and Bryson
- 0:34rodgers name because one of them had a D in their last name and one
- 0:37of them didn't. And here we are on in the first day of the
- 0:43next year, both of them are in their transfer portal. Neither of them
- 0:47had to catch his buck eyes. This all feels a little anti climactic.
- 0:53Yeah, you can go ahead and put that mnemonic in the trash and let
- 0:57it go forever. Really disappointing turn for the twenty twenty three receiver class after
- 1:04a disappointing turn for the twenty twenty two receiving class. But yeah, yeah,
- 1:11kind of came in a flurry there, and when Bryson Rogers was first,
- 1:15I kind of got the feeling that he wouldn't be the last from the
- 1:17class just based on how little they played. So disappointing turn. And we
- 1:22can talk about it more and more today, tomorrow, whenever about how to
- 1:26keep this from happening. But it is a different day and age with nil
- 1:30and so much now of when you're sitting on the bench, you're costing yourself
- 1:34money. That is what people will tell you. So that is a brand
- 1:38new factor into all of this, even aside from playing time. Well,
- 1:42and I mean, let's at least talk about the playing time moving forward,
- 1:46because I think that's part of the conversation and the twenty twenty four season Ohio
- 1:51State. Let's assume that a Mecca Abuka comes back. That's not official yet,
- 1:55but it's certainly a possibility if he does. You've got a Mecca Abuka,
- 1:59you got Paranel Tate, you got Brandon Innis, you've got Jayden Ballard
- 2:02who played some in the Cotton Bowl. You've got Jeremiah Smith coming in as
- 2:07a five star, number one player in the class. You've got Mylon Graham
- 2:12coming in. You've another five star. So that's six guys you've got.
- 2:19You know, Noah Rodgers, Bryson Rodgers. Maybe they're ahead of one or
- 2:23two of those guys maybe at start, but you're still kind of buried pretty
- 2:27deep on the depth chart. You're not looking at a ton of playing time.
- 2:30Bryson Rodgers is from Florida. Noah Rodgers is from North Carolina. We
- 2:35heard all through his Noah Rodgers recruitment that he was a homebody, and you
- 2:39know, he seemed like he was leaning towards North Carolina State for long stretches
- 2:45because that's where he's from, and it would not be surprising to see that
- 2:49be where he ends up now. But it just it just felt like there
- 2:53was not a particularly clear path to the playing field for either of those guys
- 2:58this year. So, as you say said, in this day and age
- 3:00of college football, if you're not if you don't have a clear path to
- 3:04the playing field in year two, you're seeing more and more guys jump after
- 3:07year one. Yeah. And this is especially Bryson Rodgers doesn't surprise me greatly
- 3:15because he's playing the slot. He's playing the same position as Brandon Ennis.
- 3:21And with the assumption that Mecca Abuka is back and he could be in the
- 3:23slot, where is that playing time coming for Bryson Rodgers, especially as much
- 3:28as they like to move guys around into the slot like they did with Marvin
- 3:31Harrison this year, like Cardinal Tate will be done with and anybody else,
- 3:37so the playing time for Bryson Rodgers seems would be just tough to come by.
- 3:44Noah Rodgers, I think the receivers on the outside are very unproven outside
- 3:50of and we'll see what a Mecca Abuka does. Will they move him outside
- 3:53if he comes back. Cardinal Tate will be out there, obviously, Jeremiah
- 3:57Smith will be out there. I still think it's a ton to put on
- 4:00a freshman, and we can talk about him in in a minute about how
- 4:02this take puts so much more pressure on him to produce right away. But
- 4:09Noah Rodgers, knowing what we know, and certainly Brian Hartline knowing what he
- 4:14knows about his players, and again, it is the special it is the
- 4:18position coaches who play the players, they determine the playing time knowing what they
- 4:23know about Noah Rodgers. To not play him more, you are inviting him
- 4:27to leave. And you could say that about anybody. When you're not playing
- 4:30too freshmen, you're inviting them to leave. When you're playing walk On's ahead
- 4:35of them, you're inviting them to leave. But to just assume that these
- 4:41guys were ready to play, I think is also not true. It's it's
- 4:45unfair, it's not accurate. But you know, the I don't know,
- 4:51Tom, is it the lack of blowouts this year that really impacted things Because
- 4:57you go back and you know, the number of snaps this year I probably
- 5:00down just the total opportunities because of the blowouts and things like that that weren't
- 5:06there. So maybe in twenty twenty two they could have gotten these guys more
- 5:12snaps. And if you look at the twenty twenty two receiver class, they
- 5:15got those guys more snaps, more snaps than they got the twenty twenty three
- 5:18class this year. So I think the offense overall probably cost them a receiver
- 5:28or two this year, just because it's not a rotation like we've seen in
- 5:33the past. And Brian Hartline's never really had a full rotation. But where
- 5:40are the snaps supposed to come from? When you're playing in a bunch of
- 5:43closer games and you have a quarterback who is very reliant on Marvin Harrison and
- 5:48even having a mecca a book out for as long as he did, Cardill
- 5:51Taitt and Xavier Johnson took most of those snaps, and really they're just wasn't
- 5:57anything for anybody else based on the way the games are going, and I
- 5:59guess based on the way Bright Heartline saw those freshmen. Yeah, and looking
- 6:03forward now it feels like, boy, they've got so many guys, and
- 6:08we're talking about how it's so hard to get these guys on the field because
- 6:10they have so many, you know, it's so such a deep room.
- 6:13You're losing Marvin Harrison, You're losing Xavier Johnson, You've lost Julian Fleming,
- 6:18and the twenty twenty two class has already lost Caleb Burton and Caleb Brown to
- 6:24the transfer portal. You've now lost two guys from your twenty twenty three recruiting
- 6:28class, Bryson Rodgers, Noah Rodgers, Kojo Antwee Key on Gray's key on
- 6:32Grace was hurt most of the year, Kojo Antwe only saw the field a
- 6:36few times. It feels like if they do have other guys who end up
- 6:43leaving at some point, it's suddenly you're going from boy, this room has
- 6:46a ton of guys to boy, there's not a whole lot of guys here
- 6:50because they just lost Jeremiah McClellan, who was a late flip to Oregon.
- 6:55So next year, if you've got the room, it's Mecca Abuka, maybe
- 7:00Carnel, Tate, Brennan, Innis, Jaden Baler, Jeremiah Smith, Mile
- 7:03and Graham. We talked before the show tomorrow and Whitten. He's listed as
- 7:08a wide receiver. He's listed as a tight end, might start as a
- 7:12wide receiver because he isn't quite physically developed enough to be a tight end just
- 7:16yet. That's not that many bodies in that room. You're looking at seven
- 7:21guys there, and well that's plenty. You have one or two guys get
- 7:27hurt, and all of a sudden, you know you have had Ohio state
- 7:29wide receivers miss big chunks of the last couple of years because of injury.
- 7:33That is a very talented but suddenly not particularly deep room, which for someone
- 7:39who recruits as many talented players every single year as Brian Hartline, seems crazy
- 7:44that you could be having a boy, you know, are they deep enough
- 7:46kind of conversation in that room. Yeah, And if you're looking at receivers
- 7:51for next year, you may as well throw a walk on David Adolphin there
- 7:54as well, because he played more than Bryson Rodgers, more than Kojo Anthwy,
- 7:58more than Kean Gray's. So that might be somebody else, but we
- 8:01know Ohio State wanted to sign four receivers in this class, missed out on
- 8:07Jeremiah McClellan, missed out on a couple of other guys that they were trying
- 8:11to get, and so I do think that Demurian Witten maybe eases that pain
- 8:15a little. I think it was the MVP of the Army All American Ball
- 8:18last week playing receiver, which gives you an idea of his skill set.
- 8:22We've seen him at Glenville the last two years playing everywhere it plays quarterback,
- 8:26kicks, plays receiver obviously, and every time we've seen him, he's been
- 8:31impossible to stop. He was the most impactful player I saw earlier this season
- 8:35when Glenville could do nothing in the first quarter and wasn't playing, and then
- 8:41they finally let him play. I don't know what was going on there,
- 8:45finally let him play, and Glennville just took over and blew out the opponent
- 8:50just based on the presence of Demurion Witton into plays he was making. But
- 8:56really, you're asking now for the Jeremiah Smith, and I know everybody just
- 9:03assumes, well, he's a day one starter. He may bee day one
- 9:05rotation. I think I'm not gonna book at Carneal Tate Brandon innist. That
- 9:11looks great on the video game, you know, that looks really cool.
- 9:15You know, you three five star guys there and another one waiting in the
- 9:18wings. But it's then, and maybe maybe a thin room was the best
- 9:24way to keep anybody from transferring out because there will be snaps for people.
- 9:30It's gonna be interesting to see how they do it, and you're not in
- 9:33a position where you can continue to lose guys. And I don't know that
- 9:37the twenty twenty five class will be nearly as good as the twenty twenty four
- 9:41class, which wasn't what isn't as good as the twenty twenty three class the
- 9:48last two years, the twenty twenty three class of twenty twenty two class probably
- 9:54Herdline signed four guys, I'm sorry, eight guys. He's already lost four
- 9:58to the four in those two classes. And over the last six years they've
- 10:05signed twenty one receivers. Nine of them have gone into the portal. One
- 10:11was transferred to tight end in g Scott. Ten of the twenty one basically
- 10:16have played receiver at Ohio State or state at Ohio State, and that includes
- 10:20Ken Gray's, Kojo Antweed and Jaden Ballard, who will see what happens with
- 10:26them if because they've not been playing much either, and so they'll have decisions
- 10:31to make. The portal closes on January tewod as we speak, so it'll
- 10:37be an interesting few days. And then the other portal opened window opens in
- 10:43the spring after the spring, and maybe this will be an opportunity for guys
- 10:48to see where they stand in the spring, which we know always happens.
- 10:50I want to see where I am, do I get passed over if I
- 10:52do? Deuce as I'm out, And at least Ohio State will know more
- 10:58than as well. Yeah, and we'll probably know more about who might be
- 11:03throwing the football to all of those guys. As the Buckeyes are supposedly maybe
- 11:07reportedly close to adding a quarterback through the portal, We'll keep an eye on
- 11:11that for you. We'll see who's blocking for all of these guys. There's
- 11:16that's suddenly a little bit of a concern as well in another room where they've
- 11:20brought in a lot of guys and somehow they maybe you're feeling like they're a
- 11:24little thin up front? Will they have will they have any other additions to
- 11:28that group through the portal potentially now or after the spring. Just brought in
- 11:31a transfer tight end through the transfer portal. Tony and I did an instant
- 11:35reaction show on that. You can find it YouTube dot com slash Buckey Huddle.
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- 12:13That will do it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
- 12:16Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.