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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform.
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Speaker 2: Tonight the strange reasons given by the judge who let
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Speaker 2: anti Israel protests hijack the Sydney Harbor Bridge. I'll go
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Speaker 2: through her judgment. Also tonight, the Trump backed plan to
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Speaker 2: build a nuclear power station on the Moon, plus more
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Speaker 2: global warming madness. The Albaneze government rushes out more handouts
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Speaker 2: to save Smelter's face enclosure in part because of net
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Speaker 2: zero policies that are driving power prices sky high. Plenty
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Speaker 2: more as well, including the Prime Minister's very strange choice
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Speaker 2: of company. But first, you know it's no wonder amas
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Speaker 2: is cheering leaders like Anthony Abnezi. Our deluded prime minister
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Speaker 2: made a phone call over They should have made him
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Speaker 2: realize that it's making a terrible mistake. He's encouraging terrorists
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Speaker 2: and jew haters. Albinizi rang this creep. Mamud Abbas's president
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Speaker 2: of the Palestinian Authority and albaniz He told him about
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Speaker 2: his ubute planned to recognize a Palaestinian state and stressed,
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Speaker 2: according to the official redoubt, Australia's commitment to a two
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Speaker 2: state solution Palissin and Israel, because a just and lasting
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Speaker 2: piece depends upon it, he said, Now foreign messapennyone backed Albanezi.
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Speaker 3: Today, everybody understands that there is a risk there will
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Speaker 3: be no Palestine left to recognize unless the international community
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Speaker 3: worked together towards two states.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sure, but just talking to President Abaus should have made
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Speaker 2: Albanizi realize straight off the bat he was being an idiot.
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Speaker 2: Now Abbas would naturally figure a Palestinian state. Good, I'll
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Speaker 2: be in charge of that, because he runs the West
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Speaker 2: Bank while Hamas terrorists run the other part of Palestine, Gaza.
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Speaker 2: And Albanizi says, Hamas can't be allowed to lead a
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Speaker 2: Palestinian state. He plans to recognize probably in September of
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Speaker 2: the United Nations, and then, of course just leads a bus.
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Speaker 2: But I call a bus a creep because he's a
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Speaker 2: rabid Jew hater whose government pays pensions to relatives of
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Speaker 2: terrorists killed attacking Israel. And he's defended Adolf Hitler. Said.
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Speaker 2: Hitler didn't slaughter six million Jews just because he was
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Speaker 2: a racist. Those Jews had been shifty with money.
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Speaker 4: And Gano Yamluna assas Luna.
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Speaker 2: And that's the man Albanizo confides in promises a Palestinian
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Speaker 2: state too. Now there's another reason, Albaniz, he should have thought,
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Speaker 2: hang on a bus in charge of my Palestinian state.
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Speaker 2: Am I nuts that Abbas is now in the twentieth
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Speaker 2: year of his four year term as president. He hasn't
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Speaker 2: dared hold another election in all that time because most
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Speaker 2: Palestinians hate him and his corrupt mates, and they probably
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Speaker 2: vote for Hamas instead. But he is the real killer
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Speaker 2: literally as well. What really makes Albanez's plan to recognize
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Speaker 2: the Palace in his state so stupid and dangerous at
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Speaker 2: this point in time is that a senior Hamas official
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Speaker 2: said just last Saturday that doing this is a victory
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Speaker 2: for his terrorist group. This would prove that Hamas was
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Speaker 2: right along to start this war by murdering twelve hundred
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Speaker 2: Isserraelis on October seven, twenty twenty three, and raping women,
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Speaker 2: beheading men, and taking one hundred and fifty one hostages.
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Speaker 5: How did doorable koile you? Would you let us slay you?
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Speaker 5: And auto tell in Josette Rykrigenten. In the here I
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Speaker 5: add a cordial philosophy ilium.
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Speaker 6: Let's cuar it?
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Speaker 5: Do I think Willoka Let's philoso Inlian Governess about October.
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Speaker 2: Philostine and yes, and us will indeed get the credit
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Speaker 2: if we now recognize Palestine and it will be even
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Speaker 2: more likely to win any election. Then in Albanize, he's
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Speaker 2: planned Palatine his state. I mean, how is it going
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Speaker 2: to stop them running? So here he is Albanize, he
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Speaker 2: planning to do something that makes him us stronger, that
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Speaker 2: makes us think, justifies murdering and kidnapping Jews, something that
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Speaker 2: creates a state that's going to be run by corrupt
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Speaker 2: Jew haters or out in our terrorists. It's like Ambanies
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Speaker 2: is really in some naive, you know, fluffy world of
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Speaker 2: rainbows and fairy flasks, with no idea what kind of
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Speaker 2: people is actually dealing with, and no idea of what
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Speaker 2: Israel's up against. Maybe doesn't care, I don't know. Same
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Speaker 2: with Penny Wong. Also the labor hard left. Our foreign
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Speaker 2: minister has just announced another twenty million dollars of your
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Speaker 2: money to go for aid for Gaza to cope with
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Speaker 2: the consequence of the war that Gaza's own terrorists leaders started.
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Speaker 2: Now this includes six million dollars for the United Nations
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Speaker 2: for food aid for Gaza. When as I showed you
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Speaker 2: last night, even you and statistics showed gunmen almost certainly
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Speaker 2: Hamas steal a lot of it, apparently to sell and
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Speaker 2: thereby fund its war. So that means Australian taxpayers almost
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Speaker 2: certainly will see some of their AID money go to Hamas,
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Speaker 2: our money for their terror. Now one refuses to ask
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Speaker 2: the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation to distribute our food aid instead.
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Speaker 2: That's the US and Israel backed scheme that I showed
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Speaker 2: you last night, designed to keep the aid out of
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Speaker 2: Hamasa's hands. I guess Swog blindly trusts you and AID
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Speaker 2: officials who insist Hamas isn't really stealing that much aid
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Speaker 2: or any even though they really have no idea. Like
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Speaker 2: the head of the United Nations World Food Program last month,
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Speaker 2: do you.
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Speaker 7: Believe that Hamas is taking the aid?
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Speaker 1: I'm not seen anything like that. I don't know.
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Speaker 7: I have no way of knowing, because I've not been
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Speaker 7: there in person.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 2: A former spokesman for the Israeli Prime Minister says, oh, yes,
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Speaker 2: the UN is right. What evidence is there of a
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Speaker 2: mass stealing our raid? I mean, apart from all the evidence.
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Speaker 8: I hate to admit it, but there is almost no
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Speaker 8: evidence Hamas steel's humanitarian aid, besides the UN, the BBC,
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Speaker 8: the Washington Post, NPR, the United States, the Palestinian President,
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Speaker 8: Palestinian rebels, Palestinian opposition, palestinin activists, Palestinian journalists, Palestinian media,
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Speaker 8: the Women of Gaza, More women of Gaza, the men
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Speaker 8: of Gaza. The story, videos of the theft, more videos
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Speaker 8: of the theft, more videos of the theft, and more
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Speaker 8: videos of the theft. There is basically zero proof Hammas
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Speaker 8: steals food from Palestinians.
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Speaker 2: That's some of your money, I'm afraid, guys. And one
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Speaker 2: final idiocy. Albaniz It claims that recognizing Palestine is a
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Speaker 2: way to peace.
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Speaker 9: That decision to recognize on the path to a two
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Speaker 9: states being created, would make a positive difference.
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Speaker 2: In fact, recognizing a Palestinian state doesn't end anything. It
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Speaker 2: just starts more arguments, probably more fighting, but this time
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Speaker 2: with Hamas and other Palestinian extremists in a much stronger position.
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Speaker 2: You see, if you recognize a Palestinian state, you of
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Speaker 2: course have to define its borders. Right that's if Hamas
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Speaker 2: and Abbasi and accept Israel's existence in the first place.
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Speaker 2: When they don't. But if they do, right, if they
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Speaker 2: do are the borders then of Albanese's Palestinian state, the
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Speaker 2: old and smaller and less defensible nineteen sixty seven borders.
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Speaker 2: Now they usually get demanded nineties, go back to the
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Speaker 2: ninety sixty seven. These are borders that would then mean
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Speaker 2: forcing some seven hundred thousand Israelis to move out of
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Speaker 2: what then becomes the new Palestinian state. These are borders
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Speaker 2: that leave Israel with no control over the border with
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Speaker 2: the Jordan, that leaves a new Palestinian army within a
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Speaker 2: mortar shot of Israel's main airport. How can Israel agree
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Speaker 2: to that? And how can we even recognize the country
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Speaker 2: with no agreed borders as yet? And how can we
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Speaker 2: recognize a Palestinian state when a Mosca and then say
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Speaker 2: this Bruceterism worked and when Hamas could actually run it. Really,
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Speaker 2: our government is just feeding Harmas with its idiocy and
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Speaker 2: with our new aid and I mean feeding her muss literally.
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Speaker 2: Today another example of the destructive madness of the government's
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Speaker 2: net zero crusade. The government today gave more handouts to
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Speaker 2: prop up a business, this time to the two smelters
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Speaker 2: of Niusar, one import Piri, the other Hobart and they
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Speaker 2: make lead and nickel. Now the company is going to
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Speaker 2: get one hundred and thirty five million dollars from taxpayer
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Speaker 2: to stay open under a package that's not just from
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Speaker 2: the Oban Easy government, from South Australia and Tasmania as well.
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Speaker 2: Now the South Australian Premier today said, oh, this had
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Speaker 2: to be done to stop China, which you did not
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Speaker 2: dare name, by the way, China is the enemy we
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Speaker 2: must not name, from dominating our supplies of these important metals.
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Speaker 10: Other countries, one in particular, is seeking to consolidate the
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Speaker 10: production of critical minims just like this to the exclusion
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Speaker 10: of all others, and that represents an unacceptable risk for
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Speaker 10: sovereign countries with a common set of values, particularly around
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Speaker 10: Western liberal democracy.
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Speaker 2: But why are these smelters in trouble, these ones as
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Speaker 2: well as glencorese copper smelter in Mount Isa, which is
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Speaker 2: also begging for a handout to stay open and probably
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Speaker 2: get that too. One reason, as Glencore has said, is
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Speaker 2: high power prices. But here's the crazy thing. You think
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Speaker 2: this government wants us to slash emissions, then it's zero
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Speaker 2: schemes which are also driving up power prices, helping causing
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Speaker 2: this crisis. They're meant to do just that, to make
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Speaker 2: us slash emissions, to close gassy businesses like exactly these smelters.
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Speaker 2: Yet now it's giving your money to these smelters to
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Speaker 2: stay open. How does all that work? Joining me is
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Speaker 2: our Tuesday regular commentator National ZMP Mcanavan the form of resources.
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Speaker 2: Mister Matt, great to see you. Can you explain what's
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Speaker 2: going on? The government wanted to slash emissions, driving up
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Speaker 2: power prices, then paying big emitting smelters to stay open.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's actually worse than that, Andrew, because we actually
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Speaker 4: tax most of these smelters and refineries as well.
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Speaker 1: So the government has a carbon tax in place.
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Speaker 4: They call it the Orwellian term the safeguard mechanism, which
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Speaker 4: applies to over two hundred of australia so called biggest polluters.
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Speaker 1: Almost all of our smelters.
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Speaker 4: And refineries are in that list because they're very energy
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Speaker 4: intensive and therefore they do this evil thing like create
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Speaker 4: jobs and also create carbon emissions. And so because they're
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Speaker 4: over that threshold, they have to then under law, required
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Speaker 4: to reduce their emissions to net zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 4: It's about four point nine percent a year they have
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Speaker 4: to do, and to do that they have to go
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Speaker 4: buy carbon credits or spend other money to reduce emissions.
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Speaker 4: That's effectively a tax. It's a burden placed on them,
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Speaker 4: and that's of course making it harder for them to
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Speaker 4: compete against this Chinese competition. I'm glad you mentioned it, because,
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Speaker 4: as you say, the government doesn't mention it. I don't
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Speaker 4: think anything Albinizi mentioned it on his six day trip
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Speaker 4: to China. He didn't mention that his own Resources minister.
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Speaker 4: By the way, she did mention China, I give her credit.
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Speaker 4: Madeline King did say that it was actually the actions
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Speaker 4: of China which led to the nickel industry going out
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Speaker 4: the back door last year. The predatory tactics that they
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Speaker 4: have in these markets. It's now putting pressure on copper,
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Speaker 4: on lead, on zinc, on lithium, on lots of different
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Speaker 4: industries now under the gun because of those actions. The
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Speaker 4: problem is China's got a specific strategy here andrew clearly
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Speaker 4: to monopolize the production of key industrial commodities. Good luck
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Speaker 4: to them, but we are so stupid that then we
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Speaker 4: handicap our industries in that race. So I do support
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Speaker 4: the assesssmans provided today. I wish we didn't have to
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Speaker 4: provide so much, but we have to try and keep
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Speaker 4: these facilities open for our own national defense. But we
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Speaker 4: are putting a lead in our own saddle bags by
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Speaker 4: pushing up the price of energy unnecessarily by placing carbon
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Speaker 4: tax burdens on these industries that the China, their Chinese
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Speaker 4: competitors don't have. So it's going to make it much
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Speaker 4: harder for us to win this race, and it is
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Speaker 4: a race. We're basically trying to determine which country can
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Speaker 4: keep subsidizing their industry.
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Speaker 1: Is the longest.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think China is actually deliberately and cynically pushing
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Speaker 2: the global warming thing too, because they're not obliged to
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Speaker 2: cut their emissions. They say they're so poor they've got
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Speaker 2: to be allowed to keep growing their emissions. They're adding
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Speaker 2: coal fares stations every single week. We're buying it. We're
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Speaker 2: de industrializing, and they're taking our business. I mean, the
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Speaker 2: whole thing such a con It's so obvious that our
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Speaker 2: government seems to be sitting up for it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this government also been telling lies about the whole net
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Speaker 2: zero thing. Mat Canavan, they'll be talking about the world
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Speaker 2: phasing out fossil fuels, when the latest data actually shows
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Speaker 2: that it's not happening. That the world last year used
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Speaker 2: even more energy than ever, two percent more, and that
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Speaker 2: there were all time records in the use of every
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Speaker 2: form of energy record coal record, oil record, gas record,
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Speaker 2: renewables record, hydro and nuclear renewables aren't replacing fossil fuels,
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Speaker 2: they're just adding to them.
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Speaker 4: What's that telling you, Well, it's telling me that we
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Speaker 4: should do the same, that we perhaps should use all
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Speaker 4: our energy resources because we're in the lucky position that
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Speaker 4: God has blessed us with almost every energy source known
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Speaker 4: to man, and so why don't we just use them
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Speaker 4: all like other countries like China are, to provide jobs
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Speaker 4: and lower energy prices, lower cost of living for all Australians.
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Speaker 1: That's to me seem logical.
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Speaker 4: It means seem logical that if we're going to export
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Speaker 4: our coal to China, which we do and help then
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Speaker 4: compete with us, we shouldn't deny the use of that
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Speaker 4: same product to ourselves. That's more lead in the saddle
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Speaker 4: bags of our industry, of our jobs by denying them
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Speaker 4: use of that resource.
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Speaker 1: That we give or we sell at least to our competitor.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to give the Chinese officials sum
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Speaker 4: credit for keeping a straight face in these conversations they
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Speaker 4: have with Western leaders.
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Speaker 1: They must it must be very, very difficult for them.
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Speaker 1: And presumably they go in the back room and burst
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Speaker 1: out laughing after the cameras are off.
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Speaker 4: Because they do. They sit there and sit through these
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Speaker 4: moral lectures from our own government. And meanwhile, as you say,
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Speaker 4: they're building two cold fire power stations a week, they
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Speaker 4: have no compunction over industrializing their own economy. And since
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Speaker 4: they so called signed up to net zero, China said
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Speaker 4: they want to do net zero by twenty sixty. Since
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Speaker 4: they did that three years ago, China has increased It's
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Speaker 4: increased its annual coal mining output by five hundred and
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Speaker 4: sixty four million tons a year. Andrew Australia only minds
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Speaker 4: about four fifty million tons of coal a year. China's
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Speaker 4: increased its production by more in three years than we
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Speaker 4: produce in any one year. It shows the absolute absurdity
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Speaker 4: of this net zero agenda and the naivity of our
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Speaker 4: leaders that keep swallowing it and putting at risk Australian
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Speaker 4: jobs by doing so.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, the great transition to green energy is clearly not happening.
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Speaker 2: The facts don't lie, but our government does. Matt Canavan,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. I know you've
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Speaker 2: been quite ill, so I really appreciate you crawling in
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Speaker 2: front of a camera and giving us your time. Really appreciated.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. After the break, Vladimir Putin faces
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Speaker 2: D Day on Friday, a deadline for peace in Ukraine
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Speaker 2: or else, but he warns America not to go nuclear
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Speaker 2: to enforce its will. Friday could be huge, huge in
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Speaker 2: world historical terms. I mean it's D Day for Russia.
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Speaker 2: It's the day that Donald Trump probably will go from
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Speaker 2: friend to full out enemy. Now I know all the
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Speaker 2: attention seems to be on the war in Gaza instead,
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Speaker 2: and that's of course just got worse, and just the warning.
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Speaker 2: The footage we're about to show is distressing, but his
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Speaker 2: family wants the world to see it. Harmas, encouraged by
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Speaker 2: support it's getting from the left, has walked away from
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Speaker 2: peace talks and Israel shockboy video showing Jewish hostages deliberately
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Speaker 2: starved in Gaza has just ordered a complete occupation of
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Speaker 2: Gaza to freedom. But all that said, and all that's important.
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Speaker 2: The far more important war, one that's killed probably four
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Speaker 2: times more people, threatens a new world war and nuclear war,
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Speaker 2: is the one in Ukraine. Now, Trump, the US President,
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Speaker 2: started off blaming Ukraine for getting involved over getting invaded
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Speaker 2: by Russia, but is now done a complete uti and
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Speaker 2: last week said, well that's it. I'm disgusted by the
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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin's stalling stringamlong disgusted by the carnage I'm seeing
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Speaker 2: by his bombing of Ukrainian civilians. And last week he
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Speaker 2: said Putin had until this Friday to make some kind
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Speaker 2: of serious peace proposal or Russia would be hit with
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Speaker 2: more sanctions, and so would any other country that helped it.
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Speaker 2: And that's not all. Last Friday, Trump hit the roof
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Speaker 2: and former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev Putin's a tack dog
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Speaker 2: and a drunk, threatened Trump with war, saying Trump's playing
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Speaker 2: the ultimate game, the ultimatum game with Russia fifty days
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Speaker 2: or ten. He should remember two things, Russia's and Israel
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Speaker 2: are even around, and every age ultimatum is a threat
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Speaker 2: and a step towards war, not between Russia and Ukraine,
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Speaker 2: but with his own country, Russia, versus America. Don't go
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Speaker 2: down the Sleepy Joe road. Now that mocker didn't suit
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Speaker 2: Trump at all. He ordered two nuclear submarines in response
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Speaker 2: to move closer to Russia.
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Speaker 1: A threat was.
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Speaker 10: Made by a former president of Russia, and we're going
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Speaker 10: to protect our people.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there was just theater America would have nuclear
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Speaker 2: subs within striking distance of Russia all the time, I
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Speaker 2: should imagine. But Putin now realizes this is serious. Medvedev
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Speaker 2: has been stopped from tweeting. Putin has invited Trump envoys
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Speaker 2: Steve Whitkoff to come to talk, so I think probably
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Speaker 2: tomorrow or Thursday. Andin's spokesman has warned everyone, including Trump
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Speaker 2: and Medvedev, against making nuclear threats. But the Friday deadline
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Speaker 2: is now ticking. Even if Trump overnight was sounding a
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Speaker 2: little less beellicos.
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Speaker 11: What happens on Friday and the deadline months and Russia
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Speaker 11: has not agreed to the fight.
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Speaker 2: Well, there'll be sanctions, but they seem to be pretty
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Speaker 2: good at appointing sanctions. You know, there are wiley characters
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Speaker 2: and they're pretty good at avoiding sanctions. So we'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens. Join me is Peter Jennings a former Deputy
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Speaker 2: Secretary for Strategy in the Defence Department. He is now
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Speaker 2: Director of Strategic Analysis Australia. Peter Jennings, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for joining us. What are you expecting on Friday?
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Speaker 2: Can Trump really afford to again chicken out of confronting
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Speaker 2: Putin at last?
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Speaker 12: I don't think he's going to do that on Friday, Andrew.
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Speaker 12: My sense is that Trump has made up his mind,
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Speaker 12: as he does about Putin. Over a period of time.
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Speaker 12: He's given Pertin every opportunity to show willingness to negotiate
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Speaker 12: an end to the conflict, excuse me, and Putin has
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Speaker 12: been unprepared to do that. So I think what we're
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Speaker 12: going to see on Friday is quite possibly a toughening
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Speaker 12: of America's response to Russia, maybe a hardening of sanctions
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Speaker 12: or other measures that Trump will put in place to
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Speaker 12: put more pressure on I think that's.
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Speaker 1: The most likely outcome.
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Speaker 2: So what do you think that's steak? Here?
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Speaker 12: Oh, a great dealers at stake. It's certainly true that
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Speaker 12: Russia and Ukraine are both feeling exhausted. I don't know
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Speaker 12: how long both countries can really go on at the
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Speaker 12: level of military tempo which they've been fighting over the
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Speaker 12: last few months. But it's also the case that Ukraine
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Speaker 12: is far from defeated, and so this conflict is going
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Speaker 12: to continue. It's much clearer now than it was a
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Speaker 12: few months ago that the Russians are not for negotiation,
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Speaker 12: and therefore, what I think is really at stake on
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Speaker 12: this particular occasion is what steps can the Americans take
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Speaker 12: along with the Europeans to put more pressure on Russia.
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Speaker 12: And I think we're now at a point where Trump
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Speaker 12: is going to follow through with that. He's not going
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Speaker 12: to back down and his support of Ukraine, and so
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Speaker 12: this is potentially a really important moment in Trump exercising
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Speaker 12: American power to say to the Russians, you now have
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Speaker 12: to find a way to back down from these military operations.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and of course China's watching because it wants to
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Speaker 2: see how strong American and Western resolve is here before
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Speaker 2: it launches a potential invasion of Taiwan. In fact, Chinese
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Speaker 2: the Chinese Foreign minister, they're said in an unguarded moment
22:31
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, you know, China cannot afford
22:34
Speaker 2: to let Russia lose this war. But I just wonder
22:38
Speaker 2: whether whatever Trump does will be enough to stop Putin.
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Speaker 12: Well, I guess what we've seen with the American response
22:49
Speaker 12: to Ukraine is that it's been always late and always
22:54
Speaker 12: less than is actually necessary to achieve decisive battlefield advantage
22:59
Speaker 12: for the Ukraineans. But I do think that Trump is
23:03
Speaker 12: now in a different place to where he was when
23:06
Speaker 12: he was inaugurated. He's now got a tougher view of
23:10
Speaker 12: Putin and a sense that the Russians are not willing
23:14
Speaker 12: to negotiate to try to find a solution here. And
23:18
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, I think Trump realizes
23:20
Speaker 12: that what's now at stake Andrew is not so much
23:24
Speaker 12: solely Ukraine's position. It's actually about American power in the world.
23:29
Speaker 12: And he can't afford to back down on that because,
23:31
Speaker 12: as you say, if he does, the Chinese will just
23:34
Speaker 12: see that as a green light on Taiwan. So I
23:38
Speaker 12: think on Friday, I expect, I hope, we'll see this
23:41
Speaker 12: a tougher Trump and that's what we need.
23:45
Speaker 2: Yes, But whether it's enough to break Putin, that's the issue,
23:49
Speaker 2: isn't it. Meanwhile, You've got Israel's Prime Minister Benjaminetnia, who
23:54
Speaker 2: has ordered a complete occupation of gas in our bays,
23:58
Speaker 2: Army to find the so Jurwish hostage is still thought
24:02
Speaker 2: to be alive.
24:02
Speaker 1: Here he is.
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Speaker 13: We must continue to stand together and fight together to
24:09
Speaker 13: achieve the war goals we have set, all of them,
24:11
Speaker 13: the defeat of the enemy, the release of our hostages,
24:14
Speaker 13: and the assurance that Gaza will no longer pose a
24:17
Speaker 13: threat to Israel. Later this week, I will convene the
24:20
Speaker 13: Cabinet to instruct the IDF on how to achieve these
24:23
Speaker 13: three goals.
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Speaker 2: Piny Jennings. Some six hundred former Israeli security chiefs, even
24:29
Speaker 2: prime ministers have now appealed to Donald Trump to stop NTNYA.
24:33
Speaker 2: Who they're saying more war is a mistake, can achieve
24:37
Speaker 2: nothing's counter productive? Who is right?
24:42
Speaker 12: Well, what I would like to see here is a
24:45
Speaker 12: clear military strategy that I can understand. I have complete
24:50
Speaker 12: sympathy for Nettunahu's view that they need to continue to
24:55
Speaker 12: fight to attack Comas, But I think we've got to
24:59
Speaker 12: understand what potentially that means. If there was going to
25:03
Speaker 12: be an Israeli defense force complete control of Gaza, that
25:08
Speaker 12: could take tens of thousands of additional IDF soldiers. They've
25:15
Speaker 12: already lost several hundred in the military campaigns of the
25:19
Speaker 12: last eighteen months or so, and could easily lose that
25:22
Speaker 12: number again. If what is in contemplation is a sort
25:25
Speaker 12: of a full lockdown of the Gaza strip and house
25:29
Speaker 12: to house clearances looking for Hamas fighters, is what's in contemplation.
25:37
Speaker 12: To me, that doesn't make military sense. And so what
25:41
Speaker 12: I think we need to get here is we need
25:44
Speaker 12: to find a way that Israel's traditional friends can engage
25:49
Speaker 12: with Netanyahu and his administration to understand what's going on
25:54
Speaker 12: and to find out how we can provide help, because otherwise,
25:57
Speaker 12: I think, you know, yet more more troops going into
26:01
Speaker 12: Gaza is not necessarily going to fix the situation and
26:05
Speaker 12: ultimately is going to create more Israeli casualties, more IDF casualties.
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Speaker 1: And that's not a solution.
26:12
Speaker 2: It's a terrible well, it's a terrible position, isn't it.
26:16
Speaker 2: I mean, what the Prime Minister can say, no, we'll
26:19
Speaker 2: stop fighting when Hamas or terrorist groups are just real
26:23
Speaker 2: these pictures of them deliberately starving to death to Israeli
26:27
Speaker 2: hostages is what You're going to turn your back on
26:29
Speaker 2: that and walk away. It's very, very difficult Anthony Albes
26:33
Speaker 2: but of course president of the Palatini well, Anthony Albinezi,
26:37
Speaker 2: though has just run the President of the Palatinine Authority,
26:40
Speaker 2: Mamou Debas, to talk about recognizing a Palestinian state. Is
26:44
Speaker 2: that a good idea in the circumstances.
26:48
Speaker 12: Well, I think both the call and the idea of
26:50
Speaker 12: recognizing a Palestinian state is a bad idea for the
26:53
Speaker 12: very simple reason that it rewards Hamas, and Hamas has
26:56
Speaker 12: publicly said that that's that's how they see it. Easy
27:00
Speaker 12: should be really cautious about this, and he should pick
27:03
Speaker 12: his friends more carefully. Abbas is hardly a partner to
27:06
Speaker 12: be doing business with on the future of Palestine. Given
27:10
Speaker 12: the position of the Palestinian Authority. It just seems to
27:14
Speaker 12: me that Albanezi rings all the wrong people these days
27:17
Speaker 12: and visits all the wrong people, and he's failing to understand,
27:21
Speaker 12: you know, some core Australian strategic interests about who our
27:24
Speaker 12: real friends are and where we need to be dependable
27:28
Speaker 12: in supporting those friends. It's so true, but it's such
27:33
Speaker 12: an easy way of pretending there's not a problem, isn't
27:36
Speaker 12: it to just to find it as no problem? And
27:40
Speaker 12: you know, chum up to the Chinese dictator and chum
27:43
Speaker 12: up to the Palatine authority. President problem solved so easy
27:48
Speaker 12: or not, Peter Jennings, thank you so much, indeed for
27:51
Speaker 12: your time.
27:53
Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew.
27:55
Speaker 2: After the break, the ABC called it this story of
27:58
Speaker 2: the century. So now Donald Trump is going after the
28:01
Speaker 2: former president he blames or cooking up this Russian collusion,
28:06
Speaker 2: hopes that we were sold and someone could get jailed.
28:14
Speaker 2: We might finally now get to the truth about what
28:17
Speaker 2: our ABC wants boasted was the story of the century.
28:21
Speaker 2: But it's a truth very different to what the ABC
28:24
Speaker 2: and journalists around the world were claiming. They told us
28:28
Speaker 2: Donald Trump stole the first election that made him president
28:32
Speaker 2: by colluding with Russia.
28:35
Speaker 14: Tonight we take you to Moscow for the third part
28:38
Speaker 14: of our series on President Trump and his ties to Russia.
28:42
Speaker 14: The Kremlin's puppetmaster now has America dancing to his discordant tune.
28:51
Speaker 14: He couldn't have planned it better.
28:54
Speaker 2: In fact, the overwhelming evidence since is that Trump never
28:57
Speaker 2: did collude with Russia. Those credited claims, who are largely
29:01
Speaker 2: based on a totally fake adossia of fake intelligence secretly
29:07
Speaker 2: funded by the campaign of Trump's Democrat opponent Hillary Clinton
29:12
Speaker 2: and now US Attorney General Pam Bondi overnight ordered federal
29:18
Speaker 2: prosecutors to launch a grand during investigation into officials of
29:21
Speaker 2: former Democrat President Barack Obama to find out which of
29:25
Speaker 2: those officials cooked up this conspiracy theory that almost paralyzed
29:29
Speaker 2: Trump's first term in the gun Are efficients like James Clapper,
29:34
Speaker 2: Obama's director of National Intelligence, who was used by the
29:37
Speaker 2: ABC as a source of its three part series spearing
29:41
Speaker 2: Trump as a putent, conspirator, conspirator, and stooge.
29:46
Speaker 14: Would Russian intelligence look at Trump's business career as a
29:49
Speaker 14: vulnerability that they could exploit.
29:51
Speaker 12: Well, absolutely, that's kind of standard trade craft, goes back
29:55
Speaker 12: to Soviet era.
29:56
Speaker 2: Even Barack Obama himself could be in strife joining s
30:00
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Sean Spicer, Sean Spiccer,
30:05
Speaker 2: great to see you again after so long away. How
30:08
Speaker 2: big is this move by Pam Bondy.
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Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, first of all, it's great to see you again.
30:17
Speaker 11: This is huge, This is really big.
30:20
Speaker 15: I said in the last couple weeks, don't tease me, right,
30:24
Speaker 15: this is a personal issue to me. I spent a
30:27
Speaker 15: lot of money on lawyers, spent a lot of time
30:29
Speaker 15: in lawyers offices as a witness, not the target of
30:34
Speaker 15: the investigation.
30:35
Speaker 11: But this fake Russia hoax.
30:38
Speaker 15: Ensnared countless individuals who ran up massive legal bills, had
30:43
Speaker 15: their reputations dragged through the mud, who wasted countless hours,
30:48
Speaker 15: but more importantly, really undermined President Trump's first term.
30:52
Speaker 11: And it was made up.
30:53
Speaker 15: It was false, it was phony, and it was collusion
30:56
Speaker 15: between the Hillary Clinton campaign, the George Sorow Foundation, and unfortunately,
31:02
Speaker 15: the weaponization of our law enforcement and intelligence communities. So
31:07
Speaker 15: this is something where I personally want to see people
31:11
Speaker 15: held accountable for. And I can't tell you how excited
31:14
Speaker 15: I was when I saw that Pam Bondi had moved
31:18
Speaker 15: to send this evidence to a grand jury because Andrew.
31:21
Speaker 15: You know, the funny thing is so many people on
31:23
Speaker 15: the left said, oh, well, we need to get over it,
31:25
Speaker 15: we need to move on. I'm sorry, I'm not ready
31:28
Speaker 15: to move on. I want accountability.
31:31
Speaker 11: I want justice.
31:32
Speaker 15: These people ruined people's lives, undermined the president's first term
31:38
Speaker 15: in office.
31:39
Speaker 11: They deserve to be held accountable.
31:43
Speaker 2: I think it's easy to forget how much disruption it
31:46
Speaker 2: goes to the Trump administration's first term and totally bogus
31:52
Speaker 2: claim built largely on a dossier that was fightked up
31:57
Speaker 2: and funded by the Clinton campaign and sent to the FBI,
32:01
Speaker 2: which then league like crazy against the against the Trump administration.
32:06
Speaker 2: You know, claims of you know, Trump hiring prostitutes to
32:11
Speaker 2: urinate in the It's just it's so disgusting and.
32:15
Speaker 15: So it's worse than that he's here, Andrew if I may.
32:20
Speaker 15: When that first broke, I got the phone call from CNN.
32:22
Speaker 15: They were the first ones to call me saying we've
32:24
Speaker 15: got this unconfirmed dossier. One of the allegations in that
32:29
Speaker 15: dossier was that Michael Cohen, the president's personal attorney, had
32:32
Speaker 15: gone to Prague as an intermediary.
32:34
Speaker 11: I was the one.
32:35
Speaker 15: I called Michael Cohen on that day, right after we'd
32:38
Speaker 15: got in the briefing, and said, do you have your passport?
32:41
Speaker 11: And he said to me, why do you need to
32:42
Speaker 11: know this? And I said, trust me, it's important.
32:45
Speaker 6: Now.
32:45
Speaker 11: I'm no lawyer.
32:46
Speaker 15: I didn't go to law school, but I watched a
32:47
Speaker 15: lot of legal TV. And I said, Michael, trust me,
32:50
Speaker 15: I need you to come back to the office and
32:52
Speaker 15: show me your passport.
32:53
Speaker 11: This is important. Trust me. On this he came back.
32:56
Speaker 15: I opened up his passport and saw that not only
32:58
Speaker 15: did he never travel to which is what the Steele
33:01
Speaker 15: dossier contended, but that he hadn't left or entered the
33:04
Speaker 15: country for six months before after the alleged date. In fact,
33:08
Speaker 15: Michael could prove that he was on the West coast
33:11
Speaker 15: of the United States on a college visit with his daughter.
33:14
Speaker 15: When I shared that information with the media and said,
33:17
Speaker 15: one of the central tenets of this so called Steele
33:20
Speaker 15: dossier I can prove demonstrably is false, they said, okay, well,
33:27
Speaker 15: what else, We'll include your statement? I said, include my statement.
33:31
Speaker 15: It's demonstrably false and I can prove it. And yet
33:34
Speaker 15: you still are going with this. The media is as
33:37
Speaker 15: complicit as the intelligence community in propagating this lie.
33:43
Speaker 1: Oh, that's absolutely correct.
33:44
Speaker 2: I forget that. Two newspapers that pushed it hard as
33:48
Speaker 2: the I think the Washington Post, the New York Times
33:51
Speaker 2: New York Times correct me if I'm wrong, both got
33:53
Speaker 2: to pull the surprises for a story on what was
33:56
Speaker 2: totally bogus fake. I mean, it's just disgusting. What evidence
34:02
Speaker 2: does Pam Bondi have and what is she trying to prove?
34:06
Speaker 15: Well, First of all, let me just go back to
34:08
Speaker 15: the Washington Post in New York Times, they had no
34:11
Speaker 15: problem running this to the point where they were awarded
34:13
Speaker 15: Pultzer Prizes respectively for this, but now barely we'll touch
34:17
Speaker 15: the story. So it's interesting now we actually, instead of
34:20
Speaker 15: rumor and innuendo, actually have unclassified intelligence documents that show
34:27
Speaker 15: or allege coordination between the Soros Foundation and Hillary Clinton's campaign,
34:33
Speaker 15: and talk about how there are intelligence reports that show
34:37
Speaker 15: that the Clinton campaign knew that this was a falsehood
34:41
Speaker 15: claiming that Donald Trump was somehow, you know, coordinating with
34:44
Speaker 15: Russia but they needed to distract from Hillary Clinton's email scandal.
34:48
Speaker 11: They further can prove that law.
34:50
Speaker 15: Enforcement and intelligence officials knew this was false but allowed
34:54
Speaker 15: it to be pushed forward. So I think that what
34:58
Speaker 15: we need to do more than any thing is investigate,
35:02
Speaker 15: find out who knew what when, and hold them accountable
35:05
Speaker 15: the same way that they should have not done this
35:09
Speaker 15: in the first place. We need to actually show that
35:11
Speaker 15: these people won't be let off the hook. But Pambondi
35:14
Speaker 15: obviously has a lot of It's not you know, just
35:17
Speaker 15: an evidence, as you will, it's intelligence documents that show
35:22
Speaker 15: what actually was known and not known and believed. For example,
35:26
Speaker 15: while the narrative was pushed that Donald Trump was colluding
35:29
Speaker 15: to coordinate with Russia and that Russia was supporting him,
35:33
Speaker 15: we now know through intelligence documents that have been declassified, that.
35:37
Speaker 11: Russia had a ton of information or at least.
35:41
Speaker 15: Allegations and opposition research on Hillary Clinton that would have
35:45
Speaker 15: been very damaging to her. So if they really wanted
35:48
Speaker 15: her to win, why did they stop pushing out all
35:52
Speaker 15: of that kind of information in September. If they wanted
35:55
Speaker 15: Donald Trump to win, they would have gone full bore
35:57
Speaker 15: on her. But in fact that's not true. Therefore they
36:01
Speaker 15: knew it was a lie then, and yet they allowed
36:03
Speaker 15: the Intelligence Committee to run with this and the Obama
36:06
Speaker 15: White House according to these documents information they put forward.
36:13
Speaker 2: Well, in fact, if Putin does have what was alleged,
36:16
Speaker 2: you know, comproment on Donald Trump about prostitutes and all this,
36:20
Speaker 2: and he was, you know, Trump was colluding with him
36:23
Speaker 2: to steal the election, this would be a perfect time
36:26
Speaker 2: for Putin to release it because Trump has now turned
36:29
Speaker 2: totally against Putin's threatened to hit Russian or sanctions if
36:32
Speaker 2: he doesn't agree by Friday to a piece in Ukraine.
36:36
Speaker 2: If Putin does have the information, he'd release it now.
36:40
Speaker 2: I would imagine he hasn't. I presume that no such
36:44
Speaker 2: information ever existed.
36:46
Speaker 15: Look, we're what nine years from you know, when this
36:49
Speaker 15: all came out eight and a half. Maybe the bottom
36:52
Speaker 15: line is that it doesn't exist. If it did, it
36:55
Speaker 15: would have gotten put out in the election, it would
36:57
Speaker 15: have been put out after the election. It would have
36:58
Speaker 15: put out and you know the eight and a half
37:00
Speaker 15: years since then. But they'll say and do anything. The
37:03
Speaker 15: problem is is that what we now know, we've got
37:05
Speaker 15: a lot more insight into the actual underlying documents and
37:09
Speaker 15: intelligence assessment and analysis.
37:12
Speaker 11: Than we ever have.
37:13
Speaker 15: So I don't know why we continue to speculate when
37:16
Speaker 15: we at least can see these underlying documents about what
37:19
Speaker 15: the intelligence officials in the United States we're using to
37:23
Speaker 15: base their analysis off of Sean Spicer.
37:26
Speaker 2: This has got a long way to go. Thank you
37:28
Speaker 2: so much, indeed for your time, Yes, sir, good to
37:31
Speaker 2: see you after the break and nuclear power station on
37:35
Speaker 2: the Moon. Plus expose this strange decision by that judge
37:40
Speaker 2: to lift protests hijack the Sydney Harbridge. It's now being published.
37:43
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is. Of course, our government
37:50
Speaker 2: bans nuclear power stations for Australia.
37:52
Speaker 1: They are wicked.
37:54
Speaker 2: In contrast, the US is not only building its own
37:57
Speaker 2: power stations nuclear ones, but Donald Trump's new Transport secretary
38:01
Speaker 2: now says it plans to build a nuclear power station
38:05
Speaker 2: on the Moon to power future human activity there. Secretary
38:10
Speaker 2: Duffy has told staff to probably advance this critical technology
38:14
Speaker 2: to be able to support a future lunar economy, high
38:17
Speaker 2: powered energy generation on Mars and strengthen our national security
38:23
Speaker 2: in space is imperative. The agency moved quickly. How quickly
38:28
Speaker 2: Duffy wants that nuclear power station on the Moon launching
38:31
Speaker 2: just five years when the first Chinese astronauts are expected there.
38:36
Speaker 2: Joining is the panel skone News commentator Joe Hildebrand and
38:39
Speaker 2: scone News host Danika de Georgio now with their own
38:42
Speaker 2: show here every Friday at five pm. Denika, first of all,
38:46
Speaker 2: got to thank you for the weekly you filled in
38:48
Speaker 2: for me and my break. Thank you you did a
38:50
Speaker 2: great job. But in nuclear power station on the Moon,
38:53
Speaker 2: good idea or sacrilege?
38:56
Speaker 7: I actually think this is sacrilege, Andrew, I do not
38:59
Speaker 7: like this idea at all. Actually I was wondering if
39:02
Speaker 7: life is about to imitate art. You've got Pink Floyd's
39:04
Speaker 7: greatest album was The Dark Side.
39:06
Speaker 11: Of the Moon.
39:06
Speaker 7: Are we about to experience the dark side of the
39:08
Speaker 7: Moon by sticking a nuclear reactor up there?
39:10
Speaker 4: Look?
39:11
Speaker 7: I am all for space exploration, it is so important,
39:15
Speaker 7: but I don't like the idea. I think this was
39:17
Speaker 7: just a complete thought bubble. What sort of technology is
39:20
Speaker 7: America going to use to be able to transmit this effectively?
39:23
Speaker 7: Why does America need a nuclear reactor on the Moon.
39:26
Speaker 7: They've already got ninety four. I mean, perhaps they could
39:28
Speaker 7: send one our way while we're going on this green
39:31
Speaker 7: dream of oblivion. But I actually think this is part
39:34
Speaker 7: of a bigger plan by America. It's part of this
39:36
Speaker 7: space race. They're up against China and Russia. They want
39:40
Speaker 7: to get this reactor there by twenty thirty. At the
39:42
Speaker 7: same time China wants to get a manned mission up there.
39:44
Speaker 7: I think it's all about competition. But I just think
39:48
Speaker 7: that the Moon is sacred.
39:49
Speaker 2: Do not touch it.
39:50
Speaker 1: That's my view.
39:52
Speaker 2: Sacred, sacred Joe stand up for the technological lovers of
39:58
Speaker 2: technology and advance and power and all that.
40:02
Speaker 1: I love it.
40:03
Speaker 6: I love it Andrew, and look, quite frankly, if Donald
40:06
Speaker 6: Trump isn't here to put a nuclear reactor on the moon,
40:09
Speaker 6: then what is his purpose?
40:10
Speaker 1: Who else is going to do it?
40:12
Speaker 6: I think it's absolutely great. I can't you know what
40:15
Speaker 6: are people are going to say, Oh, no, it's going
40:17
Speaker 6: to ruin the environment, It's going to ruin the view.
40:20
Speaker 6: The Moon is a piece of rock. I think if
40:22
Speaker 6: you're going to put a nuclear reactor anywhere, the Moon
40:26
Speaker 6: would be safer and less intrusive than literally any other
40:29
Speaker 6: location on Earth. And of course it's probably the only
40:34
Speaker 6: form of power generation you can put on the Moon.
40:36
Speaker 6: You can't really put wind turbines there because as we
40:40
Speaker 6: all know, there's no wind on the moon, and that's
40:42
Speaker 6: one for the conspiracy theorists out there. Why is the
40:44
Speaker 6: flag or sort of jiggly then? But no, I have
40:47
Speaker 6: no problem with that. It's one of those things. I
40:49
Speaker 6: think Trump sort of says that everyone thinks it's crazy,
40:52
Speaker 6: and yet you know, you know, Trump said space force,
40:55
Speaker 6: and everyone said, oh, he's crazy, and then people I
40:57
Speaker 6: actually know there's actually this huge body of evidence or
41:00
Speaker 6: thought that the next superpower contest will be in space,
41:04
Speaker 6: and why wouldn't it be so, Yeah, build a nuclear
41:06
Speaker 6: reactor on the Moon. I won't do it myself, but
41:08
Speaker 6: I want others too.
41:11
Speaker 2: I know that people will say it will check to
41:13
Speaker 2: what all these tourists will have their view of the
41:17
Speaker 2: Moon spoiled by seeing a nuclear reactor there and one
41:21
Speaker 2: spot in the I mean, I don't know. I think
41:23
Speaker 2: it's I think it's really interesting. And if they don't
41:25
Speaker 2: do it, I'm sure the China will. The Armenizi government
41:30
Speaker 2: daniker It promised to slash immigration from its massive highs.
41:35
Speaker 2: It has come down a little since, but let's then
41:38
Speaker 2: promise now the government does just announced it's going to
41:41
Speaker 2: take in an extra twenty five thousand students next year.
41:44
Speaker 2: That's the top of the two hundred and seventy thousand.
41:47
Speaker 2: Was already planning more than a quarter of a million students,
41:50
Speaker 2: all of them needing housing.
41:52
Speaker 11: Good idea, No, it's not a good idea.
41:55
Speaker 7: Here we go again, Big Australia is getting even bigger
41:57
Speaker 7: labor promised to slash immigration, Yet there we go with
42:00
Speaker 7: the open door policy again. More than a quarter of
42:03
Speaker 7: a million students need housing. Okay, well where are we
42:05
Speaker 7: going to put these people? We can't even get every
42:07
Speaker 7: day Aussies into housing. A few weeks ago, Leake Treasury
42:11
Speaker 7: reports said that Labor would not meet its target to
42:13
Speaker 7: build one point two million homes by twenty twenty nine.
42:16
Speaker 7: So it can't even reach a single housing goal. Yet
42:19
Speaker 7: we're just going to open the doors again. They've already
42:22
Speaker 7: let in one point one million migrants. They're on track
42:25
Speaker 7: to let in net and permanent migration six hundred thousand
42:28
Speaker 7: people by December this year. But of course, Andrew, it
42:32
Speaker 7: works very politically well to have this sort of open
42:34
Speaker 7: door policy for labor. They can say, oh, well, we
42:37
Speaker 7: didn't have a recession, but obviously migration has been propping
42:40
Speaker 7: up our economy. It was not front and center at
42:42
Speaker 7: the last election. The Coalition tried to implement a policy,
42:46
Speaker 7: they did not push it hard enough. And here we
42:49
Speaker 7: are today and I think it's seriously lacking in political
42:52
Speaker 7: debate right now. Conversation about migration, Joe, what.
42:56
Speaker 2: Do you make of it?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, I think there are different types of migrant
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Speaker 6: and I think that's the first thing we've got to
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Speaker 6: get our head around. International students are a huge driver
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Speaker 6: of income for Australia. They come here, they pay top
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Speaker 6: dollar to study at our universities, and yes they do
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Speaker 6: need places to live, but they are generally not taking
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Speaker 6: away places that Australian families need because their needs are
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Speaker 6: completely different. They're young, they sleep in dor dorm style accommodation.
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Speaker 6: Often they sleep frankly in accommodation that has often been
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Speaker 6: exposed as being so ridiculously overcrowded that no Australian would
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Speaker 6: even want to live in it. And again, they pay
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Speaker 6: huge amounts of money to the institutions, and that makes
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Speaker 6: education more affordable for Australian students, and they come and
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Speaker 6: spend money in the economy. And it wasn't so long
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Speaker 6: ago that international students weren't even counted in the total
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Speaker 6: number of migrants. They weren't counted as permanent migrants. They're
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Speaker 6: just in the peer in the figures. And a few
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Speaker 6: years ago that will change because of a ridiculously stupid
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Speaker 6: own goal by a sort of get up affiliated person
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Speaker 6: who on Q and A they decided to basically inflate
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Speaker 6: the migration number in Australia and effectively doubled it by
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Speaker 6: including all the international students and use that to say, see,
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Speaker 6: we've got all these immigrants coming here anyway, so the
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Speaker 6: humanitarian intake, refugee intake is even smaller than your thought.
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Speaker 6: And of course that number has now become the number
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Speaker 6: that we talk about when in fact you know temporary migrants,
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Speaker 6: which are students, and I know there are concerns that
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Speaker 6: they sometimes use that status to get in by the
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Speaker 6: back door, But these are people who will come here
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Speaker 6: huge amounts of money into the economy and then for
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Speaker 6: the most part, leave you a few years later, having
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Speaker 6: greatly enriched us.
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Speaker 7: But can I just jump in there right I know
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Speaker 7: that they I'd understand your argument, Joe, that they don't
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Speaker 7: live in the best of housing, But right now there
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Speaker 7: are Aussi's who would love to just have some sort of.
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Speaker 11: A roof over their head.
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Speaker 7: They don't care how much it costs, as long as
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Speaker 7: it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. And yet
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Speaker 7: we're letting in all these international students at the wrong time.
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Speaker 7: The whole migration crisis has exacerbated the cost of living
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Speaker 7: crisis and the housing crisis at the same time, and
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Speaker 7: that's the issue here.
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Speaker 2: I think that's I think that tends to be right.
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Speaker 2: Janika to Georgio Joe Hildebrand, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: that welcome. I appreciate it now. One last thing, one
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Speaker 2: thing has just become a little clearer. One thing I
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Speaker 2: still didn't get about Sunday's ugly anti Israel protests is why,
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Speaker 2: of all the places in Sydney was allowed to happen
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Speaker 2: in Sydney Harbor Bridge, obviously causing massive traffic problem for
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Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people. It could have been held
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Speaker 2: on a park or a beach and no one would
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Speaker 2: have minded. So why did Justice Belinda Rigg reject the
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Speaker 2: police request the band the protesters from the bridge Well.
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Speaker 2: Justice Rigg has since published a decision that Supreme Court
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Speaker 2: and afraid it's an embarrassment, she said the protest to organizer,
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Speaker 2: it happens to be a Marxist professional protest there. Joshua
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Speaker 2: Leize he said that the march was an urgent says
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Speaker 2: he demanded by the urgent situation in Gaza, claiming, using
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Speaker 2: figures I assume came from the Hamas terrorist group that
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Speaker 2: at least one hundred and forty seven people had died
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Speaker 2: from starvation. He blames Israel and it doesn't just stop there,
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Speaker 2: the judge said. Lee's also referred to very recent publications
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Speaker 2: such as the Citny Morning Herald article entitled Innocent Life
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Speaker 2: Matters The photographs of children that captured the world's conscience.
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Speaker 2: But as I showed last night, of course I'm going
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Speaker 2: to show a graphic image. The key photograph in that
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Speaker 2: story was of this boy allegedly starving, his big spine
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Speaker 2: sticking almost out of his skin because of Israel pausing
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Speaker 2: aid deliveries, But that was misleading. An unpublished photo shows
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Speaker 2: what's reported to be the boy's brother, who is healthy,
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Speaker 2: suggesting that the one year old actually had several very
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Speaker 2: serious pre existing conditions, including spine and beefider and indeed
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Speaker 2: his mother has admitted he was those problems. But blame
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Speaker 2: the police, of course for not challenging Lesley's claims of starvation,
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Speaker 2: not challenging his se must figures, and not challenging that
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Speaker 2: misleading picture. Why didn't they? Why were the protests, though,
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Speaker 2: allowed to block a key bridge and cause such massive
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Speaker 2: disruption when, of course there are other options or can
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Speaker 2: now any bunch of protests hijack the bridge any weekend?
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Speaker 2: And Justice Rigg says, fine, well, no, she doesn't address
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Speaker 2: that particular question why the bridge not directly, excepting just
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Speaker 2: two sentences and this is curious justice, Rigg says, referring
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Speaker 2: to Lee's evidence. The Sydney Harbor Bridge has been selected
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Speaker 2: because of the same considerations. The decision to march at
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Speaker 2: this location is motivated by the belief that the horror
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Speaker 2: and the urgency of the situation in Gaza demands and
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Speaker 2: urging an extraordinary response from the people of the world.
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Speaker 2: That argument she accepts based on what I say is
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Speaker 2: highly questionable evidence put to the court. And it seems
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Speaker 2: to me that rig herself is accepting that argument to
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Speaker 2: the alleged horror and urgency of the situation in Gaza
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Speaker 2: demands an extraordinary response for the people of sitting to
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Speaker 2: the point of justifying using our bridge to cause maximum
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Speaker 2: trouble and the most dramatic pictures. And I wonder if
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Speaker 2: rig would show the same sympathy if I wanted to
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Speaker 2: organize a march on the bridge to warn against China's
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Speaker 2: military build up, which I think is urgent, or to
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Speaker 2: demand Russia and its war in Ukraine, or to protest
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Speaker 2: against mass immigration. What causes do our judges think worthy
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Speaker 2: of holding up our iconic bridge. That's it from me,
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Speaker 2: coming up now, Sharry Marson, good night,