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Saving the West from Socialism · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: 16,499 Canadians put to death by their own doctors last year.
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Speaker 1: One in every 20 deaths in the country.
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Speaker 2: 732 of them weren't even dying of anything.
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Speaker 1: And in five months, if the Canadian parliament does nothing,
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Speaker 1: the only diagnosis you'll need is depression. Across the ocean,
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Speaker 1: the Netherlands, they euthanized 10,341 people, and for the first time,
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Speaker 1: a child under 12. Same week in France, 5,000 arrests,
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Speaker 1: 24 schools burned or wrecked, a teacher in La Cientat
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Speaker 1: doused in gasoline. Four to 500 schools shut this morning,
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Speaker 1: and the students have called for round three tomorrow with
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Speaker 1: every teacher's union behind them.
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Speaker 2: THEIR GRIEVANCE IS THAT THE STATE OWES THEM MORE.
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Speaker 1: AND THEN ITALY POSTED ITS BIRTH NUMBERS, 355,000 BABIES, A
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Speaker 1: FERTILITY RATE OF 1.14, THE LOWEST THE COUNTRY HAS EVER RECORDED.
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Speaker 2: AND THE ONLY REASON THE POPULATION DIDN'T SHRINK IS 1.25.
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Speaker 1: Germany, 1.35 France, the lowest since the end of the.
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Speaker 2: First World War.
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Speaker 1: You need 2.1 just to maintain your population. And these
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Speaker 1: are not five separate stories.
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Speaker 2: This is one patient. An Italian poet has written the
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Speaker 2: chart for that patient. And his symptoms list.
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Speaker 1: Reads, like my rundown, boys who hate the country they
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Speaker 1: were born in, universities that teach self-shame, squares that celebrate
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Speaker 1: the massacre of their own allies, a civilization that no
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Speaker 1: longer has children. His diagnosis is that nobody did this
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Speaker 1: to us, we did it to ourselves, and we did
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Speaker 1: it by falling in love with the wrong character. For
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Speaker 1: 500 years, the West has been trained by its books,
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Speaker 1: its paintings, its movies, its music, to root for the
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Speaker 1: rebel Lucifer against Michael, Prometheus against Zeus, The one who
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Speaker 1: tears down is the artist.
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Speaker 2: The one who guards is the clown.
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Speaker 1: He puts the hinge at Milton's Paradise Lost, the moment
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Speaker 1: Satan stops frightening us and starts seducing us. And once
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Speaker 1: rebellion is the thing you admire, every rebellion breeds the
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Speaker 1: next one. Now watch that play out on a French
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Speaker 1: sidewalk tonight. A 16-year-old sets fire to his own school.
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Speaker 2: And half the national press calls it a movement. The
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Speaker 2: book is not a eulogy. It's a prescription. And it
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Speaker 2: starts with three traps.
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Speaker 1: Despair, the simplest trap for those courageous enough to face reality. Silence,
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Speaker 1: an idea not spoken, doesn't exist in public debate. And extremism,
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Speaker 1: the most subtle trap because it poses as courage. But
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Speaker 1: then there's three medicines. Truth, meaning a morality that exists
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Speaker 1: whether you like it or not.
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Speaker 2: Beauty, which he calls the way of beauty.
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Speaker 1: The path back runs through what is beautiful because people
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Speaker 1: will defend what they love before they defend what they're told.
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Speaker 1: And faith, he names Jesus of Nazareth and doesn't apologize
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Speaker 1: for it. Then the rehab, the school, the family, the
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Speaker 1: birth rate, the arts, the language, the identity. Rebuild the
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Speaker 1: things the rebels spent five centuries tearing down. Now, the
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Speaker 1: part the people who run our universities and our cable
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Speaker 1: networks won't tell you. He says this is a risk,
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Speaker 1: not dense destiny.
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Speaker 2: And he says we are already reversing course. And he's right.
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Speaker 1: And the proof came overnight. Brazil voted yesterday. Flavio Bolsonaro
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Speaker 1: won the first round, 47 of 45, sending them to
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Speaker 1: a runoff in October 25th. AND THE RIGHT TOOK CONGRESS
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Speaker 1: IN THAT COUNTRY. THAT IS THE EIGHTH COUNTRY IN LATIN
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Speaker 1: AMERICA TO GO CONSERVATIVE IN 18 MONTHS. ECUADOR, BOLIVIA, HONDURAS, CHILE,
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Speaker 1: COSTA RICA, PERU, COLOMBIA, AND NOW BRAZIL HEADED TO A RUNOFF.
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Speaker 1: FLAVIO LOOKS LIKE HE COULD WIN. IT HAPPENED THE MOMENT
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Speaker 1: THE AMERICAN MONEY THAT PROPPED UP THE LEFT IN THOSE
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Speaker 1: COUNTRIES DRIED UP. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE RECEIPTS
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Speaker 1: LATER IN THE SHOW. And where the people who made
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Speaker 1: him sick lose their grip, he gets up. Joining me now,
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Speaker 1: the author of Our Sickness, Diagnosis and Cure of Civilization,
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Speaker 1: out this week in English from Italy, Paolo Gambi.
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Speaker 2: Paolo, welcome to David Pollak Prime Time. Wonderful book, wonderful concept.
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Speaker 1: We need your writings now more than ever before because
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Speaker 1: we're facing a historic battle with the radical left. The West,
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Speaker 1: the free West needs to rise up and beat it.
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Speaker 1: And you have the prescription in your book, my friend.
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Speaker 3: Wow, you really did, David, an incredible summary of what
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Speaker 3: I wrote, really. Congratulations for what we did, because you
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Speaker 3: really grasped the most important things I wrote.
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Speaker 4: Well, the West is sick. You're really right. This is
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Speaker 4: the first point.
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Speaker 3: We cannot understand things that we read and we see
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Speaker 3: in the news without this awareness that we are in
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Speaker 3: the most destructive pandemic that the West has ever seen
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Speaker 3: in history.
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Speaker 4: And this pandemic is rooted in.
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Speaker 3: Literature, arts, in this archetype that we are following, in
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Speaker 3: the new hero that we are following. You mentioned Milton,
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Speaker 3: Paradise Lost, the Satan that Milton wrote. That character is
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Speaker 3: what we are chasing now.
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Speaker 4: We all want to become that. That's the point. But
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Speaker 4: how can we explain the fact that we see in
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Speaker 4: the news? How is it possible?
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Speaker 3: I ask you, how is it possible to understand how
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Speaker 3: one of the most important cities of the United States
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Speaker 3: is nowadays ruled by a Muslim, if we consider that
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Speaker 3: Islam is the anti-West?
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Speaker 4: And we have always known this throughout history.
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Speaker 3: How is it possible that a person that embodies the
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Speaker 3: anti-West rules one of the most important cities of the
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Speaker 3: United States? We cannot understand if we don't get deep
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Speaker 3: into the knowledge of what we carry inside of us.
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Speaker 3: This sickness, our sickness. And this sickness is that culture
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Speaker 3: for which many scholars have already, of course, written about that.
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Speaker 3: I quote just one, Roger Scruton. He talked about the oikophobia,
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Speaker 3: this hate for the house. It comes from the old Greek.
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Speaker 4: We hate our house. We hate ourselves.
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Speaker 3: And we belong to a West where people feel intelligent.
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Speaker 4: If they hate themselves.
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Speaker 3: Self-loathing is absolutely necessary for a person in the radical
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Speaker 3: leftist group to feel intelligent. And if we spread this
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Speaker 3: feeling throughout schools, universities, media, of course young people, youngsters,
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Speaker 3: grow up with this sentiment, with this hate inside of them.
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Speaker 3: And this explains much of what we see, much of
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Speaker 3: what we feel in this West. If I get around
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Speaker 3: Italy in this moment to launch my book. My book
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Speaker 3: has been launched in Italy, first of all, and now
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Speaker 3: has been launching on Amazon in the English language for
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Speaker 3: the English speaking friends. And I meet a lot of
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Speaker 3: people and all of them, when I start talking, I ask,
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Speaker 3: who is realizing that there is something that is going wrong?
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Speaker 4: Everybody says me.
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Speaker 3: We are all realizing that something is going wrong, but
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Speaker 3: we can't name this sickness. What I've tried to do
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Speaker 3: is this, finding the way to make a diagnosis.
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Speaker 4: So what is happening?
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Speaker 3: Getting deep into the roots of this sickness and so
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Speaker 3: the second part of the book is all about how
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Speaker 3: we built this sickness throughout centuries through the myth of
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Speaker 3: the change of the hero that we did with great
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Speaker 3: genius writers that did this.
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Speaker 4: Like Milton, like Lord Byron, who was one of the
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Speaker 4: main characters of this operation, and many, many others.
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Speaker 3: And without even knowing them, without knowing what they wrote,
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Speaker 3: we carry inside what they did.
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Speaker 4: And we try to embody this new archetype, this.
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Speaker 3: Different hero that has an unmistakable mark that is self-loathing.
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Speaker 4: We hate ourselves.
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Speaker 3: And if you find a civilization that hates itself, what
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Speaker 3: future can you forecast for them?
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Speaker 5: The end.
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Speaker 4: This is the point. All the signs that you were mentioning.
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Speaker 3: Before, like euthanasia and the spreading of abortion, all of
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Speaker 3: these are all signs of death. It's a civilization that
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Speaker 3: wants to erase itself. And of course, then you can
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Speaker 3: explain why this civilization, and especially a city that has
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Speaker 3: been the most important radical leftist cities of the world,
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Speaker 3: New York City, can make an alliance with a person,
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Speaker 3: with an environment, like this, the radical Islamists who want
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Speaker 3: to destroy us.
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Speaker 4: You understand this?
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Speaker 3: The great alliances between the radical left and the political
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Speaker 3: Islam that both want the same goal, that is destroying
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Speaker 3: the free West.
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Speaker 4: And we cannot stop.
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Speaker 3: We cannot remain without doing something. And that is why
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Speaker 3: the third part of the book is the cure.
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Speaker 4: And we must be.
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Speaker 3: cultivate hope because we have all the instruments to get
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Speaker 3: out of this sickness. We have all the instruments to
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Speaker 3: get rid of all of this. You just have to follow.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned three very quickly and very precisely. The first
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Speaker 3: thing is about morals or ethics. So we have to
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Speaker 3: work on just and unjust things. We have to to
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Speaker 3: go back to choose by putting in the center justice.
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Speaker 4: So this is the first thing, and we have forgotten.
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Speaker 6: And truth.
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Speaker 4: We have to understand what is true and what is not.
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Speaker 4: And we have stopped asking this.
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Speaker 3: In this world in which we are all isolated in
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Speaker 3: filter bubbles through social media, we all live in filtering
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Speaker 3: in bubbles that tells us the story we want to hear.
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Speaker 3: In this situation, we really need to go back to truth.
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Speaker 3: And this is the first thing we have to do.
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Speaker 3: Second thing, I'm telling very quickly, of course, but there's
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Speaker 3: an entire book about this. The second thing we have
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Speaker 3: to do is going back to, let me say this
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Speaker 3: as an Italian, it's particularly important for me, the aesthetic.
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Speaker 3: We have to start asking us, is this beautiful or not?
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Speaker 3: Because beauty, even according to Aquinas, to St. Thomas, beauty
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Speaker 3: is one of the straightest way to God, to the divine.
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Speaker 3: And if something is beautiful, that is already an answer
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Speaker 3: if it's also just and good.
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Speaker 4: But the third thing that is the most important is mystics.
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Speaker 3: We have forgotten the dimension where rationality cannot dive. We
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Speaker 3: have forgotten the most important part of our lives that
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Speaker 3: is the spiritual part and we have to go back
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Speaker 3: to that because it's there that we have the roots,
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Speaker 3: the deepest root of our sickness. So if we go
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Speaker 3: back to spirituality we also know how to to this sickness.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I love so much about this book,
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Speaker 1: is that you've taken these really complex concepts that I've
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Speaker 1: been talking about for months on this show, the spread
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Speaker 1: of communism, the Islamo-Marxist unity, and the spread of Sharia.
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Speaker 1: You talk about the schools and the teachers unions and
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Speaker 1: the radicalization of our youth. And then you see the
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Speaker 1: disease playing out in Europe and in France with the
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Speaker 1: fires and in the UK. You see all of this happening,
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Speaker 1: but you also see the cure in action in South America.
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Speaker 1: Everything in your book and the way you laid it
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Speaker 1: out is happening right now. And I think you put
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Speaker 1: it together perfectly and you released it in English at
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Speaker 1: the perfect time. Paolo, grazie for putting this out. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for coming on the show. And I look forward
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Speaker 1: to having you back again. I can listen to you
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Speaker 1: for hours. And this book is fantastic. Everybody should go
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Speaker 1: pick up Our Sickness, Diagnosis and Cure of a Civilization.
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Speaker 2: It's on Amazon in English. Go get it. Paolo, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for being here.
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Speaker 4: I'm very grateful. Thank you very much, David.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Coming up, for 60 years, USAID bankrolled the left in
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Speaker 1: other people's countries.
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Speaker 2: Trump shut it down.
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Speaker 1: And every presidential election in Latin America since, well, it's
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Speaker 1: gone to the right. Eight countries in 18 months. We
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Speaker 1: have the receipts on why that is. Flavio Bolsonaro beats
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Speaker 1: Lula in round one after polls suggested he could lose
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Speaker 1: round one.
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Speaker 2: Well, he didn't. And by the way, the family the
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court tried to erase, they just took over Congress.
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Speaker 1: And a 15-year-old loses his hand in France. 15 days
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Speaker 1: of riots over class sizes. Who's standing behind the students
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Speaker 1: Eight countries, 18 months, every presidential election held in Latin
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Speaker 1: America since Donald Trump froze.
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Speaker 2: Foreign aid has gone to the right. You don't believe me?
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Speaker 2: There's a calendar. January 20th, 2025, the aid was frozen.
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Speaker 2: March 10th, Marco Rubio.
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Speaker 1: Cancels 83% of USAID's programs.
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Speaker 2: July 1st, USAID ceases to exist. Then the voting started. Ecuador,
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Speaker 2: Noboa over the socialist.
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Speaker 1: Bolivia, Rodrigo Paz ending 20 years of Evo Morales' party. Argentina,
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Speaker 1: Mile's midterms, a rout. Honduras' Nasre Asfora, Trump's candidate. Chile,
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Speaker 1: Jose Antonio Kast, 58 to 42.
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Speaker 2: The biggest vote total. in Chilean history. Costa Rica, Laura Fernandez,
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Speaker 2: no runoff needed.
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Speaker 1: Peru, Kiko Fujimori over Pedro Castillos.
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Speaker 2: Colombia.
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Speaker 1: Abelardo de la Esparilla, Trump's man, ending Maduro's closest friendship
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Speaker 1: on the continent.
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Speaker 2: And yesterday, Brazil, Flavio Bolsonaro, 47.
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Speaker 1: To 45 over Lula, favored in the runoff with the
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Speaker 1: right taking the Congress. What's left of the pink tide
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Speaker 1: in South America? Well, it's really just Mexico, Uruguay and Brazil.
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Speaker 1: for three more weeks at least. Joining me now, Brazilian
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Speaker 1: journalist Alan dos Santos. Alan, I mean, it is almost
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Speaker 1: impossible to, at least for us, to ignore the fact
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Speaker 1: that get rid of USAID and all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: conservatives win.
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Speaker 2: Now the left is saying it's killing people.
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Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to hold on for dear
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Speaker 1: life to whatever apparatus propped up the left in South America.
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Speaker 2: This is a sign of things to come, right?
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Speaker 6: David, you're so right.
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me here. But let
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Speaker 8: us make it very clear, David. We have the son
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Speaker 8: of the former president running for presidency, right? So how
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Speaker 8: can he become the first in this election, the first term?
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Speaker 8: He won, but not enough to not need the second term.
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Speaker 8: That's the way it works in Brazil. So you need
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Speaker 8: to win more than 50 times. in order not to
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Speaker 8: have in the second term. But the question is, how
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Speaker 8: can a son get more successful than his father, who
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Speaker 8: is way more popular? The answer is no USAID. That's it, period.
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Speaker 8: So I can tell you for sure, if it wasn't
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Speaker 8: for USAID, Bolsonaro would be president too now. He wouldn't
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Speaker 8: be in jail right now as he is. I even
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Speaker 8: don't like the term Bolsonaro is in jail. He's kidnapped
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Speaker 8: by the Supreme Court. And the reason is the socialists,
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Speaker 8: they were so connected to the Democrats here in the
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Speaker 8: United States that you can see clear how they are
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Speaker 8: big friends. Take a look at, for example, Brazil as
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Speaker 8: a puppet in China's hand. Brazil is a proxy war.
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Speaker 8: China is using Brazil to attack the United States. What
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Speaker 8: China wants in Brazil, what China wants in South America,
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Speaker 8: they don't want free market.
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Speaker 6: They don't want free trade. They don't want prosperity.
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Speaker 8: They want just to attack the United States, the most
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Speaker 8: wonderful republic in the world.
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Speaker 6: I repeat that all the time in Brazil.
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Speaker 8: Not even our republic in Brazil is a truly republic
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Speaker 8: in terms of the United States Constitution, for example. We
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Speaker 8: need to take a close look in what is going
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Speaker 8: on in South America. All the countries are looking at
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Speaker 8: themselves and say, OK, that's enough. We don't need the
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Speaker 8: socialists and the communists anymore. We need progress, real progress.
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Speaker 8: We need democracy, real democracy. We don't want to be
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Speaker 8: close to China and the drug cartels. We want to
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Speaker 8: stop this and go on with freedom and And that's
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Speaker 8: why they are getting close to Trump. But when I
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Speaker 8: say getting close to Trump, it's just ideologically. That's different
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Speaker 8: than Lula, for example.
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Speaker 6: Lula is close to Maduro, too, nowadays. But Maduro is
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Speaker 6: in jail, and Lula is free.
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Speaker 8: And I hope he will be in jail here in
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Speaker 8: the United States soon, because he is the one who
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Speaker 8: funded the Sao Paulo's forum campaign.
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Speaker 6: Back in 1990.
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Speaker 8: And it's clear for us that Lula and Fidel Castro,
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Speaker 8: who both created the Sao Paulo Forum back in 1990,
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Speaker 8: they want to make the whole South America and Central
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Speaker 8: America a socialist and communist countries. And let us be honest,
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Speaker 8: You can lie for someone once and twice, but you
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Speaker 8: can lie to the whole nation for a long time,
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Speaker 8: long period of time. That is precisely what happened when
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Speaker 8: Trump won the election in 2016. People were, I mean,
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Speaker 8: tired of all these socialist lies and sorry my French, right?
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Speaker 8: We need to stop this crazy promise that will never
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Speaker 8: be accomplished by the communists and socialists.
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Speaker 6: We want freedom. And that's why Flava Bolsonaro.
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Speaker 8: Was ahead of Lula, I mean, is ahead of Lula,
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Speaker 8: because we don't have the U.S.
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Speaker 6: ARD money buying and funding.
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Speaker 8: Fact-checkers, training the Supreme Court staff in Brazil. You know,
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Speaker 8: the Supreme Court, they take control of the election, right?
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Speaker 8: It's different than here in the United States. It's not
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Speaker 8: the executive power who take care of, who manage the election.
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Speaker 6: In Brazil, it's the judiciary. that manage the elections.
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Speaker 8: And in 2022, they were close to Biden's administration, talking
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Speaker 8: to them, being trained by them, and publicly thanking Biden's
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Speaker 8: administration for helping them to make Lula president.
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Speaker 6: So now it's different.
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Speaker 8: And I hope, I hope, because there are a lot
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Speaker 8: of China's hands in Brazil yet, but I hope we're
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Speaker 8: going to win the next turn. Because Flavio is doing great,
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Speaker 8: and he is just like his father, a hero and
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Speaker 8: a very courageous man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I've met Flavio.
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Speaker 1: He's an authentic, wonderful gentleman. He's going to be a
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Speaker 1: great president of Brazil. And yeah, you make excellent points.
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Speaker 1: The reality is this.
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Speaker 2: People.
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Speaker 1: the people of these countries, the people of the United States,
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Speaker 1: the people of South America, the people living under these
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Speaker 1: leftist rulers, they want to vote themselves into freedom.
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Speaker 2: They want to vote themselves out of it.
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Speaker 1: But because of organizations like USAID, because of the governments
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Speaker 1: getting money.
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Speaker 2: And the influence from foreign governments.
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Speaker 1: People can vote all they want. The left finds ways
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Speaker 1: of not letting go of power. And then once you
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Speaker 1: eliminate those things that were holding them in power— YOU
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Speaker 1: SEE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE GETS HEARD BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS,
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Speaker 1: AND THAT IS WHAT ENDING USAID HAS DONE. WE'VE DONE
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Speaker 1: IT IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S HAPPENING THROUGH SOUTH AMERICA.
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Speaker 1: BRAZIL IS NEXT. AND ONCE WE DEFEAT THE SOCIALISM IN
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Speaker 1: THE WEST, WE CREATE A WESTERN WALL BIGGER THAN EVER
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Speaker 1: BEFORE AGAINST THE SPREAD OF SOCIALISM. AND IT'S THE DON
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Speaker 1: ROE DOCTRINE IN REAL LIFE. ALLEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH
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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Brazil, the huge first round victory that
22:26
Speaker 1: we were just talking about for Flavio Bolsonaro. Now it's
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Speaker 1: Lula versus Bolsonaro on October 25th.
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Speaker 2: And the stakes for both the U.S.
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Speaker 1: And Brazil could not be higher.
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Speaker 1: We talked a lot about polling in Brazil and how
23:24
Speaker 1: well will.
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Speaker 2: Flavio Bolsonaro do.
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Speaker 1: Other polls suggested Lula would win the first round, which
23:31
Speaker 1: is kind of confusing to people. And they were trying
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Speaker 1: to suggest that Lula was going to win, but not outright.
23:37
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, the voters spoke.
23:39
Speaker 1: Flavio Bolsonaro wins the first round, doesn't win outright. That
23:43
Speaker 1: election's on October 25th, but 40% 7% to 45%. Flavio
23:48
Speaker 1: wins in that first round.
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Speaker 2: Now they're going to a runoff.
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Speaker 1: 56 million votes. Biggest states going his way by double digits.
23:56
Speaker 1: Now here's how he took the news.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 6: You have to love it. Now, the markets have as
24:03
Speaker 6: chances now of winning.
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Speaker 1: IT'S THE LARGEST BLOCK IN THE and leads the Senate races. Now,
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Speaker 1: Michelle Bolsonaro, the third wife of former President Jair Bolsonaro,
24:43
Speaker 1: she won a Senate seat. Carlos Bolsonaro won a Senate seat.
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Speaker 1: The family the Brazilian Supreme Court tried to erase from
24:50
Speaker 1: politics just took over the entire legislature. Lula's response last night...
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Speaker 1: The game is about to start. We're in extra time.
24:58
Speaker 1: In extra time, we will win over the Brazilian people,
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Speaker 1: he says. You need extra time? You've been ruling that
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Speaker 1: country for years. And by the way, extra time is
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Speaker 1: what you say when you didn't win during regular time.
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Speaker 1: On Election Day, Lula's own attorney general announced he wants
25:14
Speaker 1: an investigation of American interference over a report that the
25:19
Speaker 1: State Department set aside $ 1 million for Brazilian groups fighting censorship.
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Speaker 2: The man whose side took U.S.
25:27
Speaker 1: Aid money for years is now outraged by a million
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Speaker 1: dollars going to people. His court silenced. Now, none of
25:33
Speaker 1: it worked, of course. The candidate they banned got replaced
25:36
Speaker 1: by his son. The voters they censored showed up. The
25:39
Speaker 1: 21 percent of Brazil stayed home, the highest extension since 1998, which,
25:44
Speaker 1: by the way, is a crime in Brazil, which tells
25:47
Speaker 1: you the energy was on one side. And here's what
25:49
Speaker 1: I want you to see in it. Brazil is the
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Speaker 1: eighth country in Latin America to turn right in 18 months.
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Speaker 2: Maybe the ninth.
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Speaker 1: And the biggest, Flavio Bolsonaro met President Trump at the
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Speaker 1: White House in May and pledged that Brazil would join
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Speaker 1: the shield of the Americas. His crime plan is basically
26:08
Speaker 1: like El Salvador's, declared the gang's terrorist organization, build the prison,
26:12
Speaker 1: stop apologizing. His economic plan cuts 10 ministries. And he
26:17
Speaker 1: has said he'll pardon his father and the January 8th defendants,
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Speaker 1: a Brazilian equivalent to the January 6thers. THE LEFT WILL
26:24
Speaker 1: SPEND THREE WEEKS CALLING HIM A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. THEY
26:27
Speaker 1: SAID THE SAME ABOUT ARGENTINA'S MILLE. ARGENTINA'S INFLATION HAS COLLAPSED
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Speaker 1: AND MILLE JUST WON HIS MIDTERMS IN A ROUTE.
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Speaker 2: THEY SAID IT ABOUT.
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Speaker 1: CAST AND CHILE GAVE HIM THE BIGGEST VOTE TOTAL IN
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Speaker 1: ITS HISTORY. TAKE THE COMMUNIST THUMB OFF THE SCALE. TAKE
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Speaker 1: THE USAID MONEY AWAY. THE CENSORSHIP, THE COURTS USED AS
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Speaker 1: A CAMPAIGN ARM AND A WESTERN COUNTRY VOTES WESTERN.
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Speaker 2: IT'S NOT COMPLICATED.
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Speaker 1: AND BRAZIL JUST PROVED IT WITH 56 MILLION BALLOTS. PRESIDENT
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Speaker 1: TRUMP CALLED IT A VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION. very closely on
27:02
Speaker 1: October 25th. He'll get his answer, and so will Lula.
27:05
Speaker 1: Joining me now is someone who's been giving us all
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Speaker 1: the latest on this important election for both Brazil and
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Speaker 1: the United States, Paulo Figueiredo, award-winning journalist, host of the
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Speaker 1: Paulo Figueiredo Show, and grandson of former Brazilian president, João Figueiredo. Figueiredo,
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Speaker 1: got so many names, I tried so hard to get
27:22
Speaker 1: them all right. Paulo, thank you so much for being here.
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Speaker 1: As always, big, big night for the Bolsonaros yesterday. Big
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Speaker 1: night for Brazilians and a big night for America, right?
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Speaker 9: Big night for the Western Hemisphere. The world is going
27:37
Speaker 9: on the right direction after very hard times. If you
27:40
Speaker 9: look at the continent, the map for just a few
27:43
Speaker 9: years ago, you had the U.S. on the hands of
27:46
Speaker 9: the Democrats and South America, whole Latin America, to be honest,
27:51
Speaker 9: on the hands of the left. And now we're seeing
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Speaker 9: a beautiful future. Uh, of, and like I said, it
27:57
Speaker 9: was just about taking the money away, uh, from the
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Speaker 9: American taxpayer. American taxpayer was funding socialist movements in the
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Speaker 9: whole continent. And now once the, the money's gone, so
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Speaker 9: is the left crumbling in the whole continent. And Brazil
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Speaker 9: is definitely the biggest piece of the puzzle. The biggest
28:18
Speaker 9: price Brazil alone is half of South America in terms
28:22
Speaker 9: of GDP, uh, population and territory. So it's the most
28:28
Speaker 9: important country as well for the U S in terms
28:30
Speaker 9: of strategical resources and for the, and it's the most
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Speaker 9: influential country in the hemisphere as well. So this, this is,
28:38
Speaker 9: this is looking good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, a lot can happen between now
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Speaker 1: and October 25th. We saw what happened last time Bolsonaro
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Speaker 1: was on the ballot. You know, he's on house arrest now.
28:48
Speaker 1: We've already seen allegations that U.S.
28:49
Speaker 6: Is interfering.
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Speaker 2: We've seen attempts, or at least they're asking the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 1: To invalidate Flavio Bolsonaro's candidacy because of interference from the West.
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Speaker 1: At this point, winning on the first round, winning on
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Speaker 1: the first round, he almost crossed 50%. He did for
29:04
Speaker 1: a period. A lot of people are questioning, you know,
29:06
Speaker 1: how he dropped below 50%. We'll save that for another day.
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Speaker 1: But the majority of the people who voted yesterday picked
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Speaker 1: Flavio Bolsonaro.
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Speaker 2: You can't invalidate his candidacy.
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Speaker 1: You'd be denying the voice of the majority of Brazilians
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Speaker 1: who showed up and voted.
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Speaker 2: So it'll be really interesting to see what happens to
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Speaker 2: now in October.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 2: And you're right.
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Speaker 9: Flavio Bolsonaro was leading until 50 percent of the votes
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Speaker 9: and then the votes stopped coming in. Apparently, there was
29:35
Speaker 9: something like a bathroom in Pennsylvania had a leak and
29:38
Speaker 9: they had to stop oh no that was another election
29:40
Speaker 9: I'm sorry I'm getting confused here but something happened and
29:43
Speaker 9: the votes started to come in with a better outcome
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Speaker 9: for Lula that actually happened in a lot of it's
29:50
Speaker 9: raising lots of eyebrows in Brazil I can tell you
29:54
Speaker 9: that right now but we have a very different situation
29:58
Speaker 9: from 2022 just our viewers to be reminded in 2022,
30:04
Speaker 9: Jari Bolsonaro allegedly lost election for Lula by 1.8 points.
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Speaker 9: But just to be clear on the first round, he
30:14
Speaker 9: lost for Lula by seven points. So he lost by
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Speaker 9: seven points on the first round and that difference narrowed
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Speaker 9: it down for 1.8 points on the second round. This time,
30:29
Speaker 9: Flavio ended the first round, his son ended the first
30:32
Speaker 9: round ahead two points. So Flavio's performance on the first
30:37
Speaker 9: round was significantly better than his father's. And with a
30:43
Speaker 9: big difference on, actually on Flavio's favorite, because... On the
30:48
Speaker 9: 2022 election, Bolsonaro was running almost alone as a right-wing candidate,
30:57
Speaker 9: and Lula had several other center left-wing candidates splitting votes
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Speaker 9: with him. What happened now is that Flavio had other
31:06
Speaker 9: center right candidates running with him. So what I'm saying
31:10
Speaker 9: is most of the votes from the other candidates on
31:14
Speaker 9: the first round tend to migrate to Flavio, meaning the
31:20
Speaker 9: path for any path for Lula's victory is very narrow.
31:24
Speaker 9: So what you're seeing is very important because the only
31:27
Speaker 9: path they're seeing has to do with challenging the election
31:32
Speaker 9: in courts, and that's already happening. There's already an investigation
31:37
Speaker 9: that you mentioned on your monologue and also a pending
31:40
Speaker 9: court case from Lula's party asking Flavio to be removed
31:46
Speaker 9: from ballot or his election to be nullified.
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Speaker 6: And that is ongoing. It's still open.
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Speaker 9: And it's on the hands of the Supreme Court, on
31:55
Speaker 9: the hands of a justice that declares himself proudly to
31:59
Speaker 9: be a communist. So can you imagine what can happen?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's why President Trump is watching us very closely.
32:08
Speaker 1: If they try to take the voice of the majority
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Speaker 1: of Brazilians away before the October 25th election, I mean,
32:14
Speaker 1: it'll be.
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Speaker 2: A worldwide crisis.
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Speaker 1: And, you know, I don't think Lula is prepared to
32:21
Speaker 1: take on President Trump if they try to remove democracy
32:26
Speaker 1: from Brazil. I don't think President Trump's going to tolerate it,
32:28
Speaker 1: not with our hemisphere going our way. And Brazil is
32:32
Speaker 1: the biggest prize, and a lot of Americans are paying very,
32:34
Speaker 1: and they should be paying close attention to what.
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Speaker 2: Happens in Brazil. Brazil goes Bolsonaro's way.
32:39
Speaker 1: We have a wall built between Europe and the United
32:43
Speaker 1: States where communism can't pass.
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Speaker 2: This is more important now than ever before.
32:47
Speaker 1: This is probably one of the most important moments in
32:49
Speaker 1: decades for the cause of freedom and fighting against the communists.
32:56
Speaker 1: PAULO FIGUEROA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, AS ALWAYS,
32:58
Speaker 1: BRINGING US THIS. TAKE GREAT COVERAGE YESTERDAY, AND WE'RE GOING
33:00
Speaker 1: TO BE WATCHING THIS VERY CLOSELY BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER 25TH,
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Speaker 1: MY FRIEND.
33:03
Speaker 9: THANKS FOR HAVING ME, AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING MY COVERAGE.
33:06
Speaker 2: THANK YOU.
33:08
Speaker 1: COMING UP, FRANCE IS ON DAY 15 OF A STUDENT RIOT.
33:12
Speaker 2: HAVE YOU BEEN SEEING THIS? 24 SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN BURNED.
33:15
Speaker 1: A TEACHER DOUST IN GASOLINE. A 15-YEAR-OLD BLOWS UP HIS HAND.
33:21
Speaker 1: every teacher's union in the country is backing the kids.
33:24
Speaker 1: And if that sounds familiar, well, it is. It's a
33:27
Speaker 1: preview of what could happen here if we're not careful.
33:29
Speaker 2: Then it's Maha Monday.
33:31
Speaker 1: Heather Heather McIsaac counted the ingredients in one Dunkin' Donut
33:35
Speaker 1: and stopped at about 141, plus the viral bacon video.
33:40
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33:42
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Speaker 1: A 15-year-old in Lens, France, had his hand blown off
34:30
Speaker 1: this morning. Police say he picked up a stingball grenade
34:34
Speaker 1: fired at a crowd of rioting students and tried to
34:37
Speaker 1: throw it back. It's day 15 of what started as
34:43
Speaker 1: a complaint, supposedly about class sizes. The numbers as of
34:49
Speaker 1: this morning, nearly 5,000 arrests in a week, most of
34:53
Speaker 1: them minors, 24 schools burned or wrecked, 78 school staff injured,
35:00
Speaker 1: a teacher doused in gasoline, 413 schools disrupted by late morning,
35:07
Speaker 1: and a para-school set on fire at the front door by,
35:11
Speaker 1: in the headmistress's own words, around 10 hooded and masked
35:16
Speaker 1: young people. Tomorrow is what they're calling Act 3, a
35:21
Speaker 1: national day of action called by the High School Students Union. Now,
35:27
Speaker 1: look at who's standing behind the 16-year-olds. Every teacher's union
35:32
Speaker 1: in France, the Socialist Party, and, according to French intelligence,
35:37
Speaker 1: the people who lit the match in the first place,
35:39
Speaker 1: Jean-Luc Mélenchon.
35:42
Speaker 2: So is France unbowed? The hard left?
35:46
Speaker 1: The party that wants a 100%.
35:48
Speaker 2: Tax on the rich? Seize it! And a fourth republic?
35:53
Speaker 2: Mellencamp denies it?
35:55
Speaker 1: His deputy, Mathilde Panot, went on national radio today and
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Speaker 1: said the government has offered.
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Speaker 2: No political response, only a policing response. Translation, just pay them.
36:07
Speaker 2: Give them the money. Give them what they want. The
36:10
Speaker 2: demand is, of course, for every socialist, more! We want more!
36:15
Speaker 1: They say they want smaller classes, more teachers, shorter days,
36:20
Speaker 1: more money from a government that just presented a budget
36:23
Speaker 1: it can't fund in a country that spends more on
36:26
Speaker 1: its economy, on the state than almost any nation on Earth,
36:29
Speaker 1: with a, by the way, as we talked about earlier,
36:32
Speaker 1: fertility rate of 1.6, and fewer workers every year to
36:36
Speaker 1: carry it.
36:38
Speaker 2: So they're seizing from an ever-shrinking pool of people.
36:42
Speaker 1: France is the socialist model in action.
36:46
Speaker 2: Free everything. Free university. 35-hour work weeks. Why work? Just why?
36:52
Speaker 1: Retirement at 64? And they rioted over that, too, by
36:56
Speaker 1: the way. The kids aren't rioting because socialism failed to deliver.
37:01
Speaker 1: They're rioting because it delivered exactly what it promised.
37:05
Speaker 2: A GENERATION THAT BELIEVES THE.
37:07
Speaker 1: STATE OWES IT EVERYTHING AND THAT BURNING THE BUILDING, WELL,
37:13
Speaker 1: THAT'S HOW YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING EVERYTHING. THE GOVERNMENT'S
37:17
Speaker 1: ANSWER IS A BILL TO DOCK THE FAMILY BENEFITS OF
37:20
Speaker 1: THE RIOTER'S PARENTS. IT GOES TO THE SENATE OCTOBER 27TH,
37:23
Speaker 1: THREE MORE WEEKS OF THIS FIRST APPARENTLY. NOW, HERE'S WHY
37:27
Speaker 1: YOU SHOULD CARE IN THE USA ABOUT A SCHOOL FIRE
37:32
Speaker 1: IN FRANCE. These same coalitions, well, they exist here, and
37:38
Speaker 1: it's already taken to the streets. You've seen them. We've
37:40
Speaker 1: talked about them on the show. No Kings, October 18th
37:43
Speaker 1: of last year. The organizers claimed 7 million people, 2,700 events.
37:49
Speaker 1: Every state who was on the stage, Randy Weingarten of
37:53
Speaker 1: the American Federation of Teachers said, and Becky Pringle of
37:58
Speaker 1: the National Education Association, the two largest teachers unions in
38:02
Speaker 1: the country, telling the crowd, educators are standing up.
38:07
Speaker 2: Standing up against what? President Trump? They did it again
38:12
Speaker 2: in March.
38:13
Speaker 1: And the organizers' next pivot by their own announcement is
38:17
Speaker 1: a general strike. Teachers unions in the street, a socialist
38:21
Speaker 1: party supplying the slogans, and a generation of students taught
38:25
Speaker 1: that the country Well, it's a crime scene, and the
38:29
Speaker 1: state is the only thing standing between them and injustice.
38:33
Speaker 2: That's what we're seeing in France this week.
38:35
Speaker 1: It was France in 68, and the people who ran
38:39
Speaker 1: that one went on to run the universities and the
38:41
Speaker 1: newspapers and the ministries.
38:43
Speaker 2: That produced this.
38:46
Speaker 1: We are one bad budget here in the United States
38:49
Speaker 1: and one hot summer right behind France.
38:51
Speaker 2: They always say it. Watch what happens here. It happens
38:54
Speaker 2: here next.
38:56
Speaker 1: And the difference is we still have time to decide
38:59
Speaker 1: whether the people teaching our kids, teaching them to burn
39:04
Speaker 1: the buildings, Or not. We have time to do something
39:08
Speaker 1: about it. That's why this next election is so important.
39:12
Speaker 1: Joining me now with more on the warning from across
39:14
Speaker 1: the pond, Sierra Claire, foreign policy analyst and strategist covering
39:18
Speaker 1: foreign affairs and politics.
39:21
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. France should serve as.
39:23
Speaker 1: A warning to all parents and all Americans here because
39:27
Speaker 1: what we're seeing there will happen here if we're not careful, right?
39:31
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
39:31
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks, David.
39:33
Speaker 11: Well, you know, as a French professor, and I actually
39:36
Speaker 11: worked and taught at a school in France a while ago,
39:40
Speaker 11: you know, first of all, I want to say some
39:42
Speaker 11: of these grievances are real.
39:45
Speaker 10: And as you pointed out, they are a failure of
39:47
Speaker 10: the system itself.
39:48
Speaker 11: If you're unhappy with your school falling down, look at
39:52
Speaker 11: where the money is going. It's not going to the
39:55
Speaker 11: right places in this socialist system. And as you pointed out,
40:00
Speaker 11: this is an Islamic Marxist alliance that has taken over
40:04
Speaker 11: these protests. Um, and we've, we can see it, um,
40:10
Speaker 11: in all of the news coverage coming out of these protests. It's,
40:13
Speaker 11: it's very in your face from France and people, it's
40:17
Speaker 11: not just a scary bedtime story that Republicans are telling
40:21
Speaker 11: here in the U S and I hope people look
40:22
Speaker 11: at these images and see that this is what it
40:24
Speaker 11: looks like in its advanced stages.
40:27
Speaker 10: It is here in the U S it's just, it's
40:29
Speaker 10: a little more.
40:30
Speaker 11: Subtle here, but we're, we could be at this stage
40:34
Speaker 11: of what's happening in France if we're not careful.
40:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and honestly, I don't really think it
40:39
Speaker 1: has anything to do with class sizes or all the
40:41
Speaker 1: things they pretend it has to do with. Again, every
40:44
Speaker 1: time there's one of these socialist movements, they always claim
40:47
Speaker 1: to represent something.
40:48
Speaker 2: But in reality.
40:50
Speaker 1: It's really just a socialist takeover, and they just find
40:52
Speaker 1: different groups to rally behind these socialist causes, whether it's
40:56
Speaker 1: No Kings in the United States, as they have students
40:58
Speaker 1: rally with socialist groups in France. I mean, it literally
41:02
Speaker 1: is just a giant socialist riot. I mean, and we're
41:05
Speaker 1: seeing this more and more again. And then earlier in
41:07
Speaker 1: the show, I talk about THE FACT THAT WE HAVE
41:10
Speaker 1: THIS BATTLE RIGHT NOW, THE SUPREME BATTLE BETWEEN THE WEST
41:14
Speaker 1: AND THE COMMUNISTS, THIS FIGHT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES,
41:19
Speaker 1: WE'RE WINNING HERE IN THE WEST RIGHT NOW. WE ARE
41:21
Speaker 1: WINNING IN THE UNITED STATES, IN SOUTH AMERICA. WE ARE
41:24
Speaker 1: WINNING AGAINST THE SOCIALISTS, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO CLAW THEIR
41:27
Speaker 1: WAY BACK.
41:28
Speaker 2: AND WHAT WE'RE.
41:28
Speaker 1: SEEING IN FRANCE IS THE LATE EFFECTS OF WHAT COULD
41:32
Speaker 1: HAPPEN HERE IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WHICH IS WHY I
41:34
Speaker 1: SAY THESE MIDTERMS COULDN'T BE MORE IMPORTANT, RIGHT?
41:37
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
41:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, people have to turn out in these midterms.
41:41
Speaker 11: They have to take seriously what is going on in
41:44
Speaker 11: these Western European nations. You know, I feel like people
41:49
Speaker 11: think that, oh, those countries are different or they did
41:53
Speaker 11: it to themselves. We're doing it to ourselves, too, and
41:57
Speaker 11: we have to put a stop to it.
41:59
Speaker 10: We have to use our voice and vote in these
42:02
Speaker 10: midterm elections.
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Speaker 11: And absolutely, as you said, there's all kinds of faces
42:08
Speaker 11: that they put on this cause, but really it's an
42:13
Speaker 11: excuse to be violent.
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Speaker 10: And some of the violence that has.
42:16
Speaker 11: Happened in these protests is really horrible and tragic. And
42:20
Speaker 11: I think it's not, France is kind of known for
42:23
Speaker 11: protests and strikes and things, but this is not the
42:26
Speaker 11: French way. This is because of these Islamic Marxists who
42:31
Speaker 11: are just very violent in their tendencies.
42:34
Speaker 10: And we have them here in the U.S. too, and
42:36
Speaker 10: they're waiting to be violent here too.
42:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that is reality. They're being taught this.
42:41
Speaker 1: This is what they're being bred to do in the
42:43
Speaker 1: universities and the high schools.
42:45
Speaker 2: And all of it.
42:46
Speaker 1: And look, we need to build a wall, not with
42:48
Speaker 1: Mexico necessarily. We need to build a wall against the
42:51
Speaker 1: communism of Western Europe that's trying to spread here. This
42:54
Speaker 1: is probably the most important time in U.S. history that
42:56
Speaker 1: we've had in a very, very long time. We need
42:58
Speaker 1: to stop the spread of socialism because this is what
43:01
Speaker 1: it looks like.
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Speaker 2: Sierra, thank you so much for being here.
43:04
Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.
43:06
Speaker 1: When we come back, 172 grams of sugar. Trust me,
43:11
Speaker 1: that's a lot in one cup of Dunkin' coffee drinks.
43:16
Speaker 1: 141 ingredients in a donut and a strip of bacon.
43:20
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43:24
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Speaker 12: 172 grams of sugar.
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Speaker 1: That is a large caramel cream frozen coffee at Dunkin'
44:18
Speaker 1: by Dunkin's.
44:20
Speaker 2: Oh, numbers. It's not Dunkin' Donuts anymore. It's Dunkin'. 43
44:24
Speaker 2: teaspoons of sugar.
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Speaker 1: Imagine just sitting there, putting 43 teaspoons of sugar in
44:30
Speaker 1: a cup. The American Heart Association says a grown man
44:34
Speaker 1: should stop at 9... FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE DAY, WOMEN
44:38
Speaker 1: AND KIDS SIX, ONE CUP BEFORE EIGHT IN THE MORNING.
44:43
Speaker 2: CAN YOU IMAGINE?
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Speaker 1: AND YOU'VE HAD FIVE DAYS WORTH? WHEN BOBBY KENNEDY JR.
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Speaker 1: SAID IN MARCH THAT SOME OF THESE DRINKS PACK 180
44:54
Speaker 1: GRAMS OF SUGAR, THE FACT CHECKERS LINED UP TO CORRECT HIM. NO,
44:58
Speaker 1: YOU CAN'T BE TALKING ABOUT MY DUNCAN DRINK.
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Speaker 2: THEY CAME BACK WITH 172.
45:07
Speaker 10: It started to.
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Speaker 13: Taste weird so i opened it bro are you this
45:15
Speaker 13: is not bacon what the is this oh my god
45:21
Speaker 13: you've got to be it died the egg this is
45:25
Speaker 13: insane and look just to show you i'd Bacon, American cheese,
45:30
Speaker 13: fried egg.
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Speaker 10: Like, I didn't order any sort of anything. Something different.
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Speaker 13: This is their f * * * ing bacon. What
45:39
Speaker 13: has happened, Dunkin' Donuts?
45:41
Speaker 2: They're just Dunkin' now.
45:44
Speaker 1: Three million people watched a woman peel the bacon off
45:49
Speaker 1: a Dunkin' breakfast sandwich and find orange dye on the
45:53
Speaker 1: egg underneath, if that's really what that was.
45:57
Speaker 2: She said it tasted weird.
45:59
Speaker 1: The internet named it fakin'. A phone video can't tell
46:03
Speaker 1: you whether that was fake bacon, bad bacon.
46:06
Speaker 2: Or maybe just one store had a bad morning. I
46:08
Speaker 2: don't know. And Duncan hasn't really addressed it at all.
46:12
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe she didn't even buy it there.
46:13
Speaker 6: I don't know.
46:14
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. That's not the point here.
46:16
Speaker 1: The reason the video went viral is that nobody could
46:20
Speaker 1: really tell her what it was, and that's where we are.
46:24
Speaker 1: We don't even know what they're putting on some of
46:26
Speaker 1: these sandwiches. When you can't look at a piece of
46:28
Speaker 1: bacon and know if it's bacon, we got a problem.
46:31
Speaker 1: And my next guest did what the rest of us
46:32
Speaker 1: don't really do. She put Dunkin's own published ingredient guide
46:36
Speaker 1: and took the Halloween spider donut apart.
46:39
Speaker 2: Kind of looks cute, doesn't it? It's not food, though.
46:41
Speaker 2: The dough, the icing, the drizzle, the chocolate, and the
46:45
Speaker 2: munchkin on top. She counted the ingredients and sub-ingredients. Together, 141.
46:52
Speaker 1: 141 ingredients in that donut. Your grandmother made a donut
46:57
Speaker 1: with six. Nobody poured 141 things into a bowl. The
47:02
Speaker 1: frosting shows up with its own list. A filling shows
47:05
Speaker 1: up with its own list. And that's the whole con here.
47:08
Speaker 1: Refined flour, palm oil, corn syrup, emulsifiers, gums, dyes, artificial flavors, preservatives.
47:15
Speaker 1: Engineered to be cheap, to make it easy to ship, freeze, reheat,
47:19
Speaker 1: and store.
47:20
Speaker 2: Identical every time.
47:22
Speaker 1: And still look pretty, however many days it's been sitting
47:26
Speaker 1: there for. It's nothing your grandma would have baked. And
47:30
Speaker 1: she ran 10 Dunkin' items the same way. Every one
47:33
Speaker 1: of them has an ingredient list longer than a CVS receipt.
47:36
Speaker 1: And a Dunkin' isn't the villain here, right? Dunkin' is
47:40
Speaker 1: the industry. It's a symptom of a sick fast food industry.
47:46
Speaker 1: When Americans want faster, cheaper, sweeter, and tuned so that
47:50
Speaker 1: you're back tomorrow with whatever addictive ingredients they put in there,
47:54
Speaker 1: then we hold hearings on why 40% of the country
47:56
Speaker 1: is obese and the diabetes numbers won't go down.
48:00
Speaker 2: I'm not here to take your donuts. A donut is
48:02
Speaker 2: a donut.
48:03
Speaker 1: And everybody gets excited when somebody shows up with a
48:05
Speaker 1: box of them at work, right? But the problem is
48:09
Speaker 1: a dessert sold as breakfast, sugar sold as coffee, an
48:12
Speaker 1: ingredient list so long we don't even read them anymore,
48:15
Speaker 1: which is exactly what they're hoping. The companies will fix
48:19
Speaker 1: it the day it costs them money. And that's the
48:21
Speaker 1: part that's on us. Read the label. Ask what's in it.
48:24
Speaker 1: Legal doesn't mean healthy. And neither is available.
48:29
Speaker 2: And that's the whole Maha movement in one sentence.
48:31
Speaker 1: American can't get healthy until Americans know what they're eating.
48:35
Speaker 2: What do you mean now?
48:36
Speaker 1: Air Force veteran and Maha advocate, Ms. Heather Heather McIsaac.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of ingredients. Listen, I'm going to admit,
48:47
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of Dunkin'. I don't think
48:50
Speaker 1: it tastes very good. I certainly don't like their coffee,
48:52
Speaker 1: but a lot of people do, so I'm going to
48:54
Speaker 1: get hate mail for it. But after showing what we
48:56
Speaker 1: saw in that video and that ingredient list, honestly, how
48:59
Speaker 1: can anybody blame me?
49:03
Speaker 5: What I think is the most disgusting part of what
49:05
Speaker 5: Dunkin' does is that spider donut, for example, that's not
49:08
Speaker 5: marketed towards adults. That is made for children. And to
49:14
Speaker 5: supply children with a donut that has over 141 ingredients
49:17
Speaker 5: in it.
49:19
Speaker 4: Is disgusting.
49:20
Speaker 5: This is not marketed towards adults. And this is how
49:22
Speaker 5: you get kids hooked on this processed garbage is by
49:27
Speaker 5: appealing to all of their senses. You know, many people
49:29
Speaker 5: say eating isn't just taste, it's the smell, it's the visuals.
49:33
Speaker 5: And what these big companies do is they create these
49:35
Speaker 5: visuals amongst their products that To get the attention of
49:39
Speaker 5: small children that's why, when you go to the cereal aisle.
49:43
Speaker 5: You know everything that's at eye level for a four
49:46
Speaker 5: to seven year old is going to be your lucky
49:48
Speaker 5: charms your tricks you're really brightly colored cartoony type cereals.
49:52
Speaker 5: And we when we have companies like Duncan who have
49:55
Speaker 5: the ability to make healthier breakfast items. you know, the
49:59
Speaker 5: food that starts the day out for most people, you
50:02
Speaker 5: would think that they would try to maybe, you know,
50:05
Speaker 5: offer something a little bit less than a hundred ingredients.
50:09
Speaker 5: But that's the beauty of what Maha is doing right
50:11
Speaker 5: now is people like myself, people like you, so many
50:15
Speaker 5: other people are educating the masses on taking a second look.
50:19
Speaker 5: Like you said, we've kind of become desensitized to ingredient
50:23
Speaker 5: lists that are the size of CVS receipts. And what
50:26
Speaker 5: we need to start making more normal is being able
50:29
Speaker 5: to pronounce the ingredients that you're not just putting in
50:31
Speaker 5: your body, but putting in the bodies of your children.
50:35
Speaker 5: This is what they're gonna grow their bones with that
50:37
Speaker 5: are supposed to last them a lifetime. This is what
50:39
Speaker 5: they're gonna grow their organs, their muscles with. Everything comes
50:43
Speaker 5: from what you feed your kids. And if choosing a
50:47
Speaker 5: spider donut with 141 ingredients is at the top of
50:50
Speaker 5: the list, we have a big problem. And the fact
50:53
Speaker 5: that people are waking up This is becoming viral, sensationalized news.
50:57
Speaker 5: I mean, it's nothing new, unfortunately, but the fact that
51:00
Speaker 5: it's being taken more seriously at this point, I think
51:03
Speaker 5: is always a step in the right direction.
51:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
51:06
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you've made me think three times about
51:08
Speaker 1: everything that I eat, even the sunscreen I put on.
51:11
Speaker 2: The food I bring into my house.
51:13
Speaker 1: But yeah, this fast food and like the breakfast stuff,
51:16
Speaker 1: even like egg white delights or whatever they have, none
51:20
Speaker 1: of it's with real ingredients.
51:21
Speaker 2: You can't even get a simple egg It's the problem
51:23
Speaker 2: is we want fast food very quickly. We want the convenience.
51:26
Speaker 1: We want our kids to be quiet so we can
51:28
Speaker 1: get to work and we're busy. We put the devices
51:30
Speaker 1: in front of, we put the Dunkin' Donuts in their
51:32
Speaker 1: kitchen and we just do whatever we can because we're
51:33
Speaker 1: in a rush, rush, rush. But man, like you talked about,
51:36
Speaker 1: that is not a way to set up our kids
51:38
Speaker 1: for success and growing strong. And there's a reason why
51:40
Speaker 1: disease that we've never heard of is spreading in this country. Heather,
51:43
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you bringing all of this information every
51:46
Speaker 1: single week. I love the post about the ingredients. I
51:50
Speaker 1: encourage everybody to go check out your account on X
51:52
Speaker 1: so they can See all of the great stuff you
51:54
Speaker 1: post in the Maha space. And I look forward to
51:55
Speaker 1: talking to you every Monday. Happy Maha Monday.
51:59
Speaker 2: Thank you.
52:00
Speaker 5: And thank you, David, for having these conversations. I always
52:02
Speaker 5: come across as such a buzzkill for the fun foods.
52:06
Speaker 5: And it's not coming from a place of wanting to,
52:08
Speaker 5: you know, be a Debbie Downer to everybody. It's coming
52:10
Speaker 5: from a place of just second guess. Take a second look.
52:14
Speaker 2: At what you're eating.
52:16
Speaker 5: And, you know, that doesn't mean that you don't get treats.
52:18
Speaker 10: It just means that you're aware. Of the poison you're
52:21
Speaker 10: putting in your body.
52:22
Speaker 2: Or eat whole treats with less ingredients.
52:24
Speaker 9: Yeah.
52:25
Speaker 2: That's it.
52:25
Speaker 10: Make them yourself.
52:26
Speaker 2: That's it. Heather, Heather.
52:27
Speaker 5: I mean, a donut should not be 141 ingredients. I
52:30
Speaker 5: think the last time I checked, it's somewhere around 10.
52:32
Speaker 5: And that's including flavorings.
52:34
Speaker 6: Right.
52:35
Speaker 2: And make them with sourdough so it's healthy. Heather, appreciate
52:39
Speaker 2: you being here. We'll talk next week.
52:41
Speaker 4: Happy Mahal Monday.
52:42
Speaker 6: Happy Mahal Monday.
52:44
Speaker 1: That is all the time we have for tonight. Make
52:46
Speaker 1: sure you join us tomorrow for another Cardone Zone. Apparently,
52:49
Speaker 1: people are applying for mortgages at a very low rate.
52:52
Speaker 1: The interest rates probably have something to do with it.
52:54
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that tomorrow. And as always,
52:56
Speaker 1: stay in touch with us on social media, at David
52:59
Speaker 1: Pollack USA everywhere. Send us an email, davidpollackprimetime at oann.com.
53:05
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. And until then,
53:08
Speaker 2: stay classy, America.
53:09
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