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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Pulse of Panther Nation · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh. This
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  Speaker 2: is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 5: We're not going to explode from the inside out.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to stay together.
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  Speaker 5: This is a team where we've been going at it
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  Speaker 5: since July or however long ago it was. The message
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  Speaker 5: is simple. We're going to figure it out inside, inside
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  Speaker 5: our house. We don't need to do all the talking
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  Speaker 5: and all this other stuff. We just got to figure
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  Speaker 5: it out. Go out there and execute in all three phases,
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  Speaker 5: whether it be offense, defense, special teams. Nobody played perfect tonight.
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  Speaker 6: That is Derrick Brown. And the tone was different. We
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  Speaker 6: talked about this in hour one. They were not flushing
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  Speaker 6: it last night.
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  Speaker 2: They were not, oh, he's got a mood. They were
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  Speaker 2: owning it. Chuba Hubbard is special. We're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to play some clips of Chuba Hubbard.
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  Speaker 6: That man stepped up and owned it yesterday, no doubt
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  Speaker 6: about it, on behalf of the entire offense. I do
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  Speaker 6: agree with Derrick Brown, though, Bone. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 6: going to splinter. I don't think there's going to be infighting.
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  Speaker 6: I don't believe any of that's going to happen. I
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  Speaker 6: do think they have a culture over there that can
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  Speaker 6: withstand that. The question is, if they keep losing games,
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  Speaker 6: fans ain't going to give a damn.
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  Speaker 2: You think fans are going to be cheering, baby? Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're still getting along in the locker room, though, baby!
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  Speaker 2: We've lost seven in a row, but we're nice to
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  Speaker 2: each other. A lot of chemistry fans.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, chemistry's nice, and it's cool, and it's good to believe, Bone,
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  Speaker 6: that they will not splinter and fracture and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But ultimately, if they don't play better football, who cares
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  Speaker 6: if they're holding hands singing Kumbaya?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we appreciate all the interaction today on our text
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  Speaker 6: Y'all are passionate. I don't want to like, I don't
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  Speaker 6: like y'all are passionate as hell, man. There's no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And I love it. I love that.
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  Speaker 6: We should all be mad today and frustrated. There's no
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  Speaker 6: doubt about it. So keep them coming. Y'all are killing it.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all are sending so many texts in. We will talk
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  Speaker 6: college football. We got to get, you got to make
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  Speaker 6: it to nine o'clock though, baby. We got to keep
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  Speaker 6: trying to figure this out. We're going to do pulse
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  Speaker 6: of Panther nation at eight 25, but at nine o'clock
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  Speaker 6: we'll do college football confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Heels fans against Miami.
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  Speaker 6: Clemson fans against Florida State, South Carolina fans against OU,
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  Speaker 6: all those things we're going to talk about. Some text
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  Speaker 6: here that we got, Bone, that I like. I like
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  Speaker 6: these texts. Gooch Grundleman says, Mac, the only thing this
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  Speaker 6: offensive line is blocking is Bryce's payday. and then we
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  Speaker 6: got the best news of the morning bone this will
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  Speaker 6: cheer up all of charlotte amit is done texting for the.
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  Speaker 8: Day i pray for moments like this oh my god
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  Speaker 8: hallelujah hallelujah we're now calling this the revival the city
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  Speaker 8: now the city now rises back up oh man and
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  Speaker 8: a happy good morning to all now.
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  Speaker 2: Ding dong, the witch is dead. The witch is dead.
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  Speaker 2: The wicked witch. Ding dong, the wicked witch is dead.
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  Speaker 2: All right, anyway. Oh, God. All right, anyway.
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  Speaker 6: You would be a great Dorothy. City has your toto.
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  Speaker 6: Good rage baiting today, though, baby. All right, you got
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  Speaker 6: us a little worked up. So let's have this conversation
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  Speaker 6: because I'm hearing a few. I'm reading, hearing these texts.
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with me?
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  Speaker 6: I am reading a couple of texts that are bringing
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  Speaker 6: this point up. And I thought we would get hit
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  Speaker 6: with these. Tommy says, y'all better not keep making it
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  Speaker 6: all about injuries. There's some organizational incompetence that needs to
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  Speaker 6: be called out. Brian says, I would say injuries are
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  Speaker 6: about 70% of it, Mac, but there need to be
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  Speaker 6: comments made about mistakes by Dan Morgan and the coaching staff.
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  Speaker 6: So I ask you, Bone, how much of it is just, man,
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  Speaker 6: they're injured. I saw Dunk bring this up from Unnecessary Bluntness.
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  Speaker 6: I saw him bring it up on Twitter. This is
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  Speaker 6: just an injury situation that can't be schemed around. Stop
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  Speaker 6: ripping the coaches. They can't scheme around it. So do
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  Speaker 6: you feel like it's just all injuries and we just
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  Speaker 6: need to say that? Or do you think that there's
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  Speaker 6: still blame that's got to be given around?
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  Speaker 7: I think there's blame that goes everywhere. Dan Morgan, I think,
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  Speaker 7: has done a nice job in guys like... Wheatley, I
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  Speaker 7: did like Will Lee, and he got injured last night.
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  Speaker 7: I do like Will Lee. Hopefully he's all right. There's
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  Speaker 7: a lot of pieces. There's some guys that are injured,
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  Speaker 7: like Brazel and Skorton, that are a big piece to
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  Speaker 7: the puzzle that kind of get forgotten about it because
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  Speaker 7: they got hurt so early. I think Dan Morgan has
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  Speaker 7: done a nice job of amassing more depth on the
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  Speaker 7: team in a lot of areas. Two places, Matt, that
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  Speaker 7: he's missed right now? It's obviously Rasheed Walker and what
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  Speaker 7: we thought we were getting there. I thought that was
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  Speaker 7: a great deal for at least one year to get
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  Speaker 7: Freeling ready. That's been a disaster. And I will give
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  Speaker 7: credit to Fitty Wellington-Marlow. Going back now retroactively, would you
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  Speaker 7: maybe try to sign A'shaun Robinson? And was his impact
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  Speaker 7: underestimated next to Derrick Brown the last couple of years?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, although I will say the guys up front against
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  Speaker 6: the run were damn good last night.
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  Speaker 2: All being against a horrible run defense. But they got
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  Speaker 2: no pressure last night.
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  Speaker 7: But just looking back to Sunday and overall, if you
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  Speaker 7: could go back, I would probably want H.R. Robinson knowing
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  Speaker 7: what his loss looks like now on this team. So
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  Speaker 7: there are some hits and there's been some misses. You
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  Speaker 7: would have had to find another way to save that
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  Speaker 7: cap money.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: You would have had to find a different way because
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  Speaker 6: they're up against the cap right now with– all that
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  Speaker 6: money they saved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what people are like.
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  Speaker 6: This guy, Tommy says all the money we're spending on
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  Speaker 6: the O-line, the highest paid O-line, they play like that.
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  Speaker 2: It does deserve context though.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, the move to bring in Rasheed Walker, we thought
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  Speaker 6: it was a bargain at one year, 4 million. We're
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  Speaker 6: now seeing why he got 4 million. We're now seeing
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  Speaker 6: why no one around the league wanted this dude. I just, it's,
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  Speaker 6: it's terrible. It's, it's really freaking horrible, but Icky and
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  Speaker 6: Moten's injuries. Now the Icky injury, we had a big
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  Speaker 6: heads up on, right? So they went out and got
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  Speaker 6: Rasheed Walker and drafted Monroe Freeling. Monroe Freeling's a guy
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  Speaker 6: boned at what did the draft scouts say about him?
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  Speaker 9: Raw.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Will take time.
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  Speaker 6: But the Panthers didn't want to play him right away,
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  Speaker 6: but their plan of who they would play right away
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  Speaker 6: was Walker. That ain't a good plan. But the Icky
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  Speaker 6: and Moten injuries, those guys have played a combined two games.
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  Speaker 6: Damian Lewis has now missed a couple of games as well.
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  Speaker 6: It does need to be mentioned there that the injuries
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  Speaker 6: are a part of it.
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  Speaker 7: And Rob Hunt had a great first year, but he's
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  Speaker 7: not been worth the money, the big money that he's
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  Speaker 7: gotten yet overall. He's not been worth overall the money
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  Speaker 7: that he got outside of year one. Injuries, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 7: Robert Hunt was a major part of this. And that's been,
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  Speaker 7: I hate it because he was good year one, but
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  Speaker 7: the duration of the contract, we.
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  Speaker 2: Can't say it's been a success. It's been a mess.
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  Speaker 6: No. Well, yeah, I mean, injury last year, it's not
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  Speaker 6: his fault, right? And it's not Dan's fault.
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  Speaker 2: It's not, but it's not looking good right now. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's not.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's an obvious cut in the offseason, you know? Hell,
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind if they plug somebody in his spot
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  Speaker 6: right now, you know? Although I thought he was fourth
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  Speaker 6: in the list of bad offensive linemen last night. I
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  Speaker 6: thought it was clearly the tackles first and foremost, and
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  Speaker 6: then Fortner. I thought that– although Hunt missed a fourth
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  Speaker 6: and two run block. He's the one that missed it
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  Speaker 6: when Chuba got tackled on fourth and two when Canales
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  Speaker 6: rolled the dice to go for it. This texter says,
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  Speaker 6: how can you not blame coaching? They had no answers
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  Speaker 6: last night. Yeah, I do think you've got to– The
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  Speaker 6: question I asked is where were more boots? Where were
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  Speaker 6: more moving a Bryce Young out of the pocket? Boots
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  Speaker 6: were up our backside. That's where they were. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's obvious when the pocket is falling apart like that bone,
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  Speaker 6: you've got to get Bryce out of it more. So
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  Speaker 6: that would be a critique I would have of Brad Hedzik.
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  Speaker 6: But his hands are really tied. It's really hard to
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  Speaker 6: scheme around this mess.
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  Speaker 7: And is Bryce moving all right with that knee situation
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  Speaker 7: also right now?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we're wanting more boots, but— Is he not bootable
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 6: Well, he got out of the pocket in that touchdown
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  Speaker 6: drive in the second half and made some plays.
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  Speaker 7: I thought he should have ran in at one point
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  Speaker 7: into the end zone. He kind of stopped and then
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  Speaker 7: threw it.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe that's part of the knee. Maybe that's part
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  Speaker 2: of what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: But to me, unless he's like in bone, unless he
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  Speaker 6: had a leg amputated, I'm moving the pocket. Like if
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  Speaker 6: he's healthy enough to play, you've got to move the
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  Speaker 6: pocket more than you did. Finney brought up how much
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  Speaker 6: were you really helping the tackles with tight ends and
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  Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I think there's questions you can
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  Speaker 6: ask with the scheme. Brian says, Avero has another garbage night.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all ain't even going to bring his name up. I
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  Speaker 6: would go out and say, I think you're the first
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  Speaker 6: texter that has mentioned his name. I can't see all
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  Speaker 6: of them because y'all are like texting at a world
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  Speaker 6: record pace.
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  Speaker 2: Which we love. Have you seen any Avero bashing other
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  Speaker 2: than this dude?
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  Speaker 7: No, but I think some of my Avero bashers passed
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  Speaker 7: out last night during the game. So Shaquette Bartall has
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  Speaker 7: fallen asleep this morning. Our third and long defense is
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  Speaker 7: a problem. I mean, Mac, I think there was, what, four?
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  Speaker 10: Was it four conversions of third and eight or longer
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  Speaker 10: that they converted on? One of them was a penalty
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  Speaker 10: on Will Lee, the first one on Golden.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that was garbage. That was not pass interference.
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  Speaker 11: Garbage.
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  Speaker 2: That killed us. Cost us seven points, man.
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  Speaker 7: If you want to.
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  Speaker 3: sell me that was maybe a holding, you could have
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  Speaker 3: maybe sold me on that. I didn't think it was PI.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't anything.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was just really good defense.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 3: But regardless of that, how many times, like third and 13,
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  Speaker 3: you can't get off the field?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's the money down.
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  Speaker 6: And it's pretty simple to explain.
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  Speaker 2: The pass rush was terrible last night.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Even when they blitzed, they weren't getting home at all.
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  Speaker 2: It was useless.
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  Speaker 6: The four-man rush was non-existent. And then at the back end,
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  Speaker 6: you are playing, once Willie got hurt, you're playing your fifth, sixth,
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  Speaker 6: and seventh corners.
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  Speaker 10: Which, by the way, I thought Marco Wilson held up
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  Speaker 10: as good as he could have. But, Mac, you know
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  Speaker 10: what I was sitting there thinking about last night? For
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  Speaker 10: all the people that have bitched and complained about the
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  Speaker 10: lack of sack production from Jalen Phillips, would you not
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  Speaker 10: at least like to have his pressure on.
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  Speaker 3: The football field last night?
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  Speaker 2: There was no pressure.
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  Speaker 10: You don't think that would have impacted some of the
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  Speaker 10: time that Jordan Love had to make some of the
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  Speaker 10: throws that he made?
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  Speaker 2: There was barely any pressure. When he was covering something
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  Speaker 2: like Thanksgiving Day Turkey?
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  Speaker 10: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Like, where was Princely last night?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we got to have a conversation about Prince Lee.
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  Speaker 2: Where was Prince Lee?
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  Speaker 6: Because Prince Lee is two days removed from saying his
• 11:02
  Speaker 6: goal is to be the number one pass rusher in
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  Speaker 6: the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he needs to reevaluate his goals.
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  Speaker 6: Can we just start with, like, we know you're on
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  Speaker 6: the field against Jordan Love? Can we just start there? So, again,
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  Speaker 6: Averro's dealt a tough hand with the corners. He tried blitzing.
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  Speaker 6: We blitzed, according to PFF, 51% of the time last night.
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  Speaker 6: He's trying to send guys. It's just they tried to
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  Speaker 6: also keep things underneath. There was only the one play
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  Speaker 6: where they really didn't. There's one where I found myself
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  Speaker 6: questioning the scheme, though. The golden touchdown. No one even
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  Speaker 6: attempted to cover him in that zone until Nick Scott,
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  Speaker 6: when it was way too late.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, it was the one that golden dropped one, right?
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  Speaker 7: And they went right back to the other side to say,
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  Speaker 7: and it's like.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, homeboy Watson, Watson was at the hospital. So
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  Speaker 6: before he came sprinting backbone and riding back on the ambulance.
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  Speaker 7: He drove the ambulance back himself. That's how badly he
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  Speaker 7: wanted back in this game.
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  Speaker 6: But so you only got golden. You don't have Watson.
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  Speaker 6: He just got wide open and dropped one to play before.
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  Speaker 6: And you are running some zone where he doesn't even
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  Speaker 6: really get picked up. I just that that one was
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  Speaker 6: just like, how is that even something that is possible
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  Speaker 6: to do?
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  Speaker 7: Watching that game when Golden dropped that, you knew that
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  Speaker 7: he was going to go right back to Golden. It
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  Speaker 7: just happened to be on the other side. And it
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  Speaker 7: was the very next play. We could all sense back
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  Speaker 7: that they wanted Golden to get the ball on that
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  Speaker 7: possession in that area right there. They went right back
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  Speaker 7: to it. We all knew where the ball was going
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  Speaker 7: and nobody had any clue on defense that that was
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  Speaker 7: going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure how that happens. So true.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome down, says Avero, actually made halftime adjustments. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 6: does need to be said, the defense kept us in
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  Speaker 6: the game. Like, their only points of the second half, Bone,
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  Speaker 6: were because Dave Canales, and I don't have a problem
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  Speaker 6: with it, Dave Canales went for it at the 50.
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  Speaker 6: Chuba got stuff when Hunt missed the run block and
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  Speaker 6: they had a short field and went down and scored.
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  Speaker 6: After that, they did not score a point. So yes,
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  Speaker 6: I would argue the defense deserves an attaboy. I like
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: what Fitty said about Marco Wilson. I know he gave
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  Speaker 6: up seven catches. I know he had a dumb penalty,
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  Speaker 6: which by the way, how was that not two penalties?
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  Speaker 6: How was that not won on Golden for hitting him afterwards?
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  Speaker 6: Defies any referee logic.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. Like, I'm watching Bone. And the
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  Speaker 2: ref was right there!
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  Speaker 3: Right there!
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  Speaker 6: Do you see what the ref did afterwards? They're holding
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  Speaker 6: hands as he walks him over to the bench. He
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  Speaker 6: talks to him all the way to the bench. Clearly,
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  Speaker 6: Golden did something wrong. Why does he get a lecture
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  Speaker 6: like you're his father and he's five? and Marco Wilson
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  Speaker 6: immediately gets a penalty flag. I was thinking the same.
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  Speaker 7: The referee was basically saying, I don't do that again,
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  Speaker 7: or I'm going to have to throw a penalty flag
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  Speaker 7: on you.
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  Speaker 6: Young man, I don't want to have to do this
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  Speaker 6: like I did to the Panther, who I had no
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  Speaker 6: problem doing it to.
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  Speaker 2: What was that? He had his hands on his hips
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  Speaker 2: like a middle school dance. It was weird.
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  Speaker 6: This texter says, speaking of game management decisions, what the
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  Speaker 6: hell was Canales doing?
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  Speaker 2: Going for two. I hated that. Yeah, I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Hated that.
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  Speaker 7: There are situations where I get it. That one right there,
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  Speaker 7: you're not going to two-point conversions. Your offensive line is horrible.
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  Speaker 7: You're already having trouble scoring. You need all the momentum
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  Speaker 7: in the world. When you don't get the two-point conversion
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  Speaker 7: in that particular– situation there i feel like it sort
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  Speaker 7: of deflates you as you're trying to rally i can't
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  Speaker 7: state enough how much i hated it based off of
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  Speaker 7: the situation in the game right there there may be
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  Speaker 7: times it makes sense but have a feel for the
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  Speaker 7: game and it wasn't right.
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  Speaker 6: There how about that analytics dork seth walter going on
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  Speaker 6: twitter dave canalis passed the down eight test Sir, did
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  Speaker 6: you not notice.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't get the conversion?
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  Speaker 6: Like I, I realized that analytics folks are going to
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  Speaker 6: say the result does not determine whether it's a good decision.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 6: I can't, we're living that world. The Dave can analysis
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  Speaker 6: answer about that. Fitty, we got to play Dave's answer
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: about that. So yes, the answer is bone. We can
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: rage about stuff. That's not just injury luck. We certainly can. Um,
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: listen to this answer that Dave can Alice gives about
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: going for two in that situation.
• 15:05
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I just hit that. You know, for me, it
• 15:07
  Speaker 12: was about knowing what you're going to do on the
• 15:08
  Speaker 12: next one. So I felt good about that one. We
• 15:10
  Speaker 12: had a nice play that we really liked based on
• 15:13
  Speaker 12: what they were doing. Had an opportunity there in the
• 15:15
  Speaker 12: back of the end zone, unfortunately. Had two guys in
• 15:17
  Speaker 12: the same spot really going for the ball. And that's
• 15:20
  Speaker 12: another thing, too, is when we put the ball in
• 15:22
  Speaker 12: Bryce's hands, he created, he extended, and he had a
• 15:25
  Speaker 12: couple of guys open there. They did a good job
• 15:27
  Speaker 12: of getting their hand on the ball, getting it tipped.
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: There's a role for analytics in sports. It happens in
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: baseball a lot where it makes sense and I get it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: But when it takes away from the feel of the
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: game that the coaches or managers have, like in baseball,
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: that's when it becomes a problem. Happens to the Yankees
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: all the time. Hey, have a little game feel right there. Yeah,
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: maybe a nerd would say, yeah, this makes sense. Have
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: a feel for the game momentum and what it dictates there.
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: That was not the right time for that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: My feeling was that touchdown drive was so miraculous and
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: Bryce had to be so amazing dealing with pressure on
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: that drive that it felt like every play was a struggle, right?
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: So why did we want to put our offense back
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: out on the field with that line and struggle to
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: get a two-point conversion to where if we don't get it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Bone, like you said, you lose momentum.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: And you also then have to get a two-point conversion
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: the next time. You know what I mean? I know
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: Fitzy struggled on the extra points. I know we had
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: one block last week, but I'm completely with you on that.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: That clip we played I don't think had the part
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: that triggered me, though. I don't think it included the
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: part of the presser that triggered me. Dave Canales, with
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: a straight face yesterday, stands up there at that podium, Bone,
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: and talks about how we had two guys that had
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: a great chance on that ball in the back of.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: The end zone.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Dave, you mean the one that got tipped up in
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: the air 30 feet? Like, I'm sorry, bro. Is that
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: how you drew up the play, Dave? Is that how
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: Brad wanted the play to be run? Like, that play
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: did not work at all. Yes, TMAC might have been
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: able to catch it if Waller didn't get in his way.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: But for Dave to act like, oh, we almost had
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: that ball caught if Waller doesn't get in TMAC's way.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: You mean the ball that got deflected 20 yards? Like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: I couldn't believe he said that. That play was a
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: cluster F.
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that, again, that explanation makes no sense. And that
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: happens a lot, Matt, when coaches are trying to find answers.
• 17:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they come up with stuff that just makes no sense.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Like Matty Rule back in the day, trying to make
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: excuses and explain Jay-Z and seven-year plans.
• 17:34
  Speaker 13: And all that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, just they're trying to explain by not throwing guys
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: under the bus, but then it turns.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
• 17:40
  Speaker 12: It just.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And then he gets.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: Frustrated because we had to deal with that twice in
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: a week, right? We had to deal with the explanations
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: on Sunday afternoon into Monday. Then today, it's just a
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: lot of loss-splaining going on this week.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: Two days out of five, we've been on here, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: we've had to talk about absolute horrible losses to watch.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: And one of the days was a dust-up between the
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: Hornets head coach and one of the new star players.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: We need defense. Why is Bone so stressed out? Why
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: is he taking blood pressure medicine?
• 18:09
  Speaker 14: This is why.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: We need the fans. We're completely functional here in Charlotte sports.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Y'all completely functional. We need the fans bone to jump in.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: We need venting assistance on this show right now. It
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: is the pulse of Panther nation. Everybody that's on there. Well,
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: except admit probably a bebop, but if you are on
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: there saying Mac and bone, you ain't blaming Bryce enough.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: You ain't blaming whatever it might be. What are you
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: angry about? Dan Morgan's offensive line needs to be called out.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: What are you angry about today? We want to hear
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: from y'all.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: 704-570-9610.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: What's bothering you the most as we watch this season
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: come undone in a five-day span? Pulse of Panther Nation,
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: your calls and texts coming up next.
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: I just know what we can be as a team.
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: And if we play to our best, we can play
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: with anybody. I truly believe that. And when we don't, it, it,
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: it sucks. It pisses you off. Cause you know, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: we're better than that. And I take it on myself. Um,
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: got to run harder, got to break tackles, got to,
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: got to be better all around. And like I said,
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: it's an execution thing. It's not anything that we have
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: to change or make up. We just got to be better. And, um,
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: we're going to, so I'm not worried. Um, This is
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: week seven of game.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Seven for us.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: We still got a lot of ball left.
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: This isn't the ship sinking or anything. It's just get
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: back to what we know, and that's finding our best
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: every single week. So that's what we're going to do.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Shuba Hubbard, you brought it on the field last night.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Seven catches, a career high. Ran the ball bone for,
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: I think it ended up, did he get to 80?
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: I think he ended up somehow behind that offensive line
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: getting 80 yards, 81 yards on 22 carries.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He had over 100 total yards last night, right?
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he was the offense, man. So I
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: applaud him. And then he's a stand-up guy, Bone. He
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: talked long last night. And said, I'm pissed off. Dropped
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: a cuss word. And then that clip right there is
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: him explaining why he's angry.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And he's right.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: The defense and special teams forced three turnovers. The offense
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: scored three points off the three turnovers. That's a problem.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: And they got the ball immediately when the game started, too.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: And you thought, all right, maybe it's their night, one
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: of these nights. And it turned out it wasn't. Freaking
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: field goal. Kuwach was an animal on those first two
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: kick returns, though.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I give him that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: All right, let's do this, Bone.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I'll do a rare thing, Bone. I'll shut the hell
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: up here for a couple of minutes.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Let's let the texters, you and my wife are both
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: very excited simultaneously.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Don't know what to say.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Let's get the texters in here. Y'all are calling in
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: like crazy. What's bothering you? Um, uh, after last night,
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: the most 704-570-9610 injuries, or do we need to call
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: more people out than just saying, oh, it's injuries. Corey
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: J is first up. Corey, what are you thinking?
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: Yes, sir.
• 21:23
  Speaker 14: Yes, sir. Well, uh i'm not going to blame the
• 21:27
  Speaker 14: injuries and i can't blame dame dan morgan because you
• 21:31
  Speaker 14: got to take a chance on players getting in here
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: but he got to have a better scouting department probably
• 21:38
  Speaker 14: and one thing that i can say is offenses and
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: then your defense will let you down and And it
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: seemed like it flips on you, you know?
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: That is a hell of a point right there, is
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: the lack. And for people who couldn't hear, and I
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: appreciate it, by the way, Corey, thanks for the call.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: His phone went out a little bit there, but I
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: speak bad phone, Boney. So he was saying that, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: one week it's the offense going to let you down.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Defense actually, Bone, did some good things in that second half,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: but it didn't matter.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And the next week, it'll be the defense lets you down.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: We had a texter that was saying, hey, man, if
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Arrow's defense forced the turnovers, offense was terrible, they couldn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: do anything with them. But then he followed it up
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: by saying, but the defense will stink next week. There's
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: this feeling, Bone, that somebody right now, somebody's going to
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: let you down.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: The defense gave him a chance last night, and that's
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: not what they did on Sunday. So was it perfect? No,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: but it was never going to be. Without Mike Jack,
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: without Horn, not to keep going back to injuries, but
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: that matchup against Watson and Jordan Love, we knew right
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: away back when we saw our corners were out for
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: how long that that matchup there was going to be
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: a problem. I actually thought they did a little better
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: than I thought they may. I thought this thing could
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: get really bad, and it wasn't great, but it wasn't
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: as bad as what the offense did last night.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: I know Scott got an interception. I thought he could
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: have had another one earlier in the same drive. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: also thought Wheatley dropped an interception. So they did a
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: good job, Bone. There was more meat on that bone, too.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: I think the moral of the story is someone's going
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: to let you down when the Panthers play a football game.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Someone's going to let you down. All right, let's go
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: back to the phones. What is gnawing at you this morning?
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: What the hell is the problem?
• 23:17
  Speaker 14: 704-5709-610.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Lamar is up next. Lamar, how are you feeling about this?
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: That was like a perfect segue into what I was
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: going to say, right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: The offense... does well one week, and then you have
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: last night where you get three points on turnovers or
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: something like that. Like, it's week to week where it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: one thing or the other. And so my synopsis is
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: we're just not a good team, guys. We're not necessarily bad,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: but at our best, I really think we're just a
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: mediocre team when you put everything together. And that's what
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: makes me as a fan feel kind of hopeless because
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: it's like, we're going to get six wins, maybe seven, hell,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: maybe eight. But that's the ceiling for us.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: If we don't get.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Draft picks, like high draft picks with that, we just
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: kind of stay in that blah, mediocre.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: No man's land. We're kind of in that no man's land.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: That's a good call. We accept that based off where
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: things are, but we wanted more than just what we
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: were last year. We don't want to get stuck in
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: quicksand here. We want to advance. We want to be better.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: We had a texter bone and the dude texted the
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: pregame show last night the same thing. He was like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: did we just get all too excited about the three
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: and two start? Like, look at who we beat. Look
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: at like, were we really that good? I think there's
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: a question there to be had.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Our best win is Detroit. Detroit's defense stinks. I also
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: think we have gotten even more banged up since then. Yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: they've regressed. Maybe it's opponents.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: They got a break with Philadelphia and all that they
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: were missing.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: But who are we to not accept any wins and
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: get excited over any wins based off what we saw?
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: So at the time when they win, we're going to
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: get fired up because we've been craving wins for a decade.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: So it's going to happen that way.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: Only beat one starting quarterback. Those are the things you
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: start thinking about. It's fair to start thinking about that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: All right, let's go back to the phone.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: 704-5709-610.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: How do you sum up what is happening to this
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: team right now? Do you buy into, yeah, we got excited,
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: but ultimately, are they really any good? I keep saying this, though, Bone.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: You don't have to be really good to win this out.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Maybe I should just cling to that today for any
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: sort of hope. All right, let's go back. It's the
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: life support division.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: That's all we got, baby. Let's go to Ryan, who
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: is up next. Ryan, what do you say?
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: Hey, I just woke up, so I don't know if
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: people have already mentioned this, but I woke up still
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: to see so many people online blaming a zero. And
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: don't get me wrong, I'm not a zero believer by
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: any means, but how do you watch last night and
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: your main takeaway is that the defense is the problem.
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: We gave up 27 points to a good passing attack
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: with CB4 started. My main takeaway is just injuries have
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: killed a good season. The injuries have popped up to
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: the offensive line in the secondary. For what he was
• 26:26
  Speaker 11: working with, I thought that Juro did good yesterday. The
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: second half adjustments were good. The offense was inept. We
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: couldn't get anything done.
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: And the offensive line was terrible. But there were times
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: where Bryce had at least league average time in the pocket.
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: I don't know if no one was open or if
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: it wasn't a part of anything. I don't have all 22,
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: but I find it hard to believe with Toker and
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: knowing that no one was open on those plays. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 11: believe in Bryce still, but I feel like I don't
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: think he had a good game last night.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's right. First of all, great call. Those
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: are great points.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: I agree with you on Averro, and I know everybody's
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: saying Max and Averro, apologies. But listen, when I saw
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: what happened last week, that was the first real-time bone
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: where I'm like, okay, he's on notice.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Even from me. You know, even for me, I think
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you feel the.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Same way, but yeah, I think, I think the defense
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: acquitted themselves very well. The offense was, was horrendous. I
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: think Bryce was rattled. I think that's the word. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: think it is speeding him up. I think the pressure
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: is in his head, even when it's not really there,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: although it was there 47% of the time. I also
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: need to point this stat out again, Bone, because it's ridiculous.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: The Panthers had eight drives last night that went eight
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: yards or less. They could not do diddly-poo. Cue the
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Jim Mora, Bone. Couldn't do diddly-poo. It was embarrassingly bad.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: That 30-second drive right before halftime was just, I mean,
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: like I said, I had two Pringles and the drive
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: was over. They have the quickest damn drive sometimes.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: It's a run, two missed throws, and we go rest
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: for a while. And this is the.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: Offense bone that we were talking about weeks ago that
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: we were all believers in.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: No one was really arguing.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: And now the state of the offensive line, everything else
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: is affected by that. Even the plays you can call.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: All right, let's continue going.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: 704-570-9610.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Panther Bo is in the house. What's up, Panther Bo?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Big Bo.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Man, that was just flat-out disturbing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got to tell you, it's just disturbing.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I had to have a palate cleanser afterwards. I had
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to watch a Pixar movie where they get in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: balloons and go up in the sky. I mean, that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: was awful. As bad as it was, I go online
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and I see Amit Eugene Patel go off talking to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: every person that will listen. This guy could have Peyton Manning,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees, and Tom Brady sit him down with the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: folks from Sesame Street and explain to him how this
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: is not sustainable for a quarterback to be successful. And
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: he'd be like, what was it with Caleb Williams?
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Did you do this to a great man with you?
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: You guys are out of your mind.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: I mean, I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: And one more thing, Mac. I'm tired of this analytics
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: where the smartest person in the room It's his PFF BS.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Is that the reason why we got Walker? Because his PFF.
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: Score was great?
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: Stop it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Stop it with the two-point conversion and stop it with
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: this brainiac whiz kid BS.
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: Just be football.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Be normal.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Please. The call gave me goosebumps. I appreciate it, bro.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: And the one thing I could tell Bo is you'll
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: be happier on Saturday when your Purdue Boilermakers beat my
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: Nittany Lions because I am convinced that is going to happen.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: I even told KK Short that. Last night at the bar,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: KK Short shows up in platform, Bo, to hang out.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: He just showed up to hang out with you last night?
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: They had a bunch of former Panthers. Buck was out
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: there as well. I think Charles Johnson was supposed to
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: be out there also. Did they look in shape at all?
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: I only saw KK. Looked pretty damn good, man. Take
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: a photo and send it to Dan Morgan.
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: Oh, man.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: All right, so he brings up, was Rasheed Walker's PFF
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: numbers good? Is that why we signed him? About that,
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: his first two seasons, actually, they were. 74 pass block grade,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: 80 pass block grade.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Last year, it declined to a 68. This year, it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a 65. I have to be honest. How is his
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: pass block grade a 65?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: How is it that high?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: What's it out of? I don't want to go Dan
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Oroski here. It's out of 100, but what I am
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: seeing should be in the 40s. What I am seeing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Based off my knowledge of the grading system, at least 50s,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: at least 50s. All right, let's keep it going. What
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: do y'all think right now, man? How do we come
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: to terms with what's happening with this team? And we
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: got to have this conversation, Bone, of like, is it
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: just a lost season? Like, is even the NFC South
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: too good for this injury-ravaged mess?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in Jake. He'll get the final say here. Jake,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: what do you think?
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, man.
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: I'm actually a native Charlottean. I was born in Charlotte
• 31:15
  Speaker 13: and I've been at Panthers for my whole life.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I've met two of you now in 21 years, actually,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: from here. That's awesome. What you got, Jake?
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: That's right. I just wanted to say what makes a
• 31:28
  Speaker 13: good football team. And I think there's obvious areas where
• 31:33
  Speaker 13: the Panthers lack. Number one, offensive line. Number two, defensive line.
• 31:40
  Speaker 13: Number three, playing our fifth-string corners. And number four, Dave
• 31:46
  Speaker 13: Canales not being able to rally the guys. And what
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: I mean by that specifically is not just being able
• 31:53
  Speaker 13: to do the basics. Come on, man. You can't... David
• 31:56
  Speaker 13: Moore fumbling the punt. Jimmy Horn fumbling the punt.
• 31:59
  Speaker 11: It's ridiculous.
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: People jumping off sides. But I think it all stems
• 32:03
  Speaker 13: back down to before Bryce Young, even with.
• 32:08
  Speaker 13: Shipping away Brian Burns. We could have shipped him off
• 32:11
  Speaker 13: for two first-round picks to the Rams.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah. We go all the way back to Fitterer for
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: that one. Hey, I appreciate it, brother. Appreciate you calling in. Yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess we could– we got all next week, Bone.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: We got all next week. We can go back as
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: far as y'all want. Uh-oh. And complain about stuff. All right,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: thank you for the calls there. Good job by the calls.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: Pants of– I'm starting to wear down a little bit, man.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: It's been a long week, man. We're mentally drained, man.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: We got beat twice this week, man. All we want
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: to do is dance. I have never wanted to finish
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: the week. I got a pirate costume at home I
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: can't wear. I got a cheese head on the way. Oh,
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: I forgot to tell you what I did last night, Bone.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: I think I mentally jinxed us. We got up 10.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: It was 10-6 to score, right, where we had the lead?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they missed the PAT.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: So we get up 10-6, and I actually went to
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: the refrigerator and and check to see.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: What kind of cheese we had.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Because I was literally going to take cheese, and we
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: had grated cheese for tacos. I was going to toss
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: it and make it rain with cheese in the victory dance.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: So I went to see. I was going to cut
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: the cheese during the victory dance. So I went to
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: see if we had it. Not that way.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Not that way. Well, maybe that way.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: But I went to see if we had a block
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: of cheese, and I came back after that bone, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: they scored the next 21 points in the game. Is
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: it possible that I just mentally cursed the Panthers?
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: I was looking up how to order cheese heads yesterday
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: from Green. See, we mentally don't still. And I thought,
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: what if Finney doesn't do a butter churn? He does
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: a cheese grater dance. Oh, we had it all planned.
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: And the Panthers let us down.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Panthers, you ruined what could have won awards. Seriously.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: When we come back on this four-hour joyride, are the
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Panthers just too banged up to win the South? Sports
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Need an IPA. Or five. I need an IV.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: All right, Mac and Bone with you. Any other initials
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: we need?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: No, that's it. ABC store people probably need out there.
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Anyway, so let's talk about this division. We also have
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: to talk about Al Michaels. There's a couple of people
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: hating on Al and we must discuss. I guess we
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: can throw that out right now. Like, did you find
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: Al Michaels annoying last night? I mean, he did have
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: a couple of moments, including the Kuwach force fumble on
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: the opening kickoff where he felt like he was on
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: a delay. There was also the broken-up pass by Marco Wilson,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: and he did make some plays. He gave up seven catches,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: but he did fight and make some plays. But you
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: remember the one down the sideline? They lofted down the
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: right sideline. Marco goes up, knocks it away. Al Michaels,
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: it must have taken him 12 seconds, Bone, to finish
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: calling that play.
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: He had no idea the ball was on the ground incomplete. Yeah,
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know what was going on. I will also
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: say that Al Michaels, Mac, is how old now? He's
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: not as sharp as he once was. He is one
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: of the all-time greats. But I also do look at
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: it as he is 81 years old, still doing games
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: of the highest level in the NFL. So has there
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: been some slippage?
• 35:32
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: But I slip at age 43. I couldn't imagine doing
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: broadcasting at age 81 and what I'm going to be like.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. You're talking about on a delay. I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: on a delay now.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: I can't speak the English language or remember a sports
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: name bone right now at 53.
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: So it doesn't bother you? Some people get triggered by Al.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: He didn't really bother me last night. I also have
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: the ability to sometimes just tune out the announcers and
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: focus on what I want to focus on. So there's
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: not every game I hear everything just because I'm focused
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: on whatever just happened or looking up a stat or whatever.
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: So I didn't really get annoyed by Al Michaels last night.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: 704 says Al's coverage of the drone situation was grade A.
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: I was like, the drone stopped the Packers more than
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: the Panthers did at that point in the game.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I wanted to stop. I was like, anyway, we can
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: call this off.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: This drone is not safe. Let's just call it off. Um,
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Al Michaels gave me my only laugh of the night.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: The only laugh I had all night is when they
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: come back from break and he tells the world P
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: man style that it is a waning gibbous moon tonight.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And they show the moon, they show.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: The graphic I mean, what is it about play-by-play guys, Bone,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: obsessing over the moon?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: In case you're wondering, in the group chat, Willie sent
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: us that information that Al gave us.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, he was so proud. Two points.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: He said that quicker than Bryce had in the pocket.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Do we have that clip, Finney, or no? Oh, I'm sorry.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I've spoiled it. We should have played it coming back
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: from break. I spoiled it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: You never want to spoil a Waylon Gibbous. Let's hear,
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: let's hear.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a country singer. You said Waylon Gibbous? It's waning, right? Waning, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Is there not a singer named Waylon Gibbous? Here it is.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I'll have to search that one. I'll trust you on that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: This is how Michael's getting his Willie P, Astronomer, on.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, here is your super moon.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: My man, George Hill, tells me this is.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: All right, after all of that, over the super moon,
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: which George Hill tells me is called a beaver moon
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: when it happens in November.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Pulled the wrong cut. My bad.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: That was from November 6, 2025.
• 37:45
  Speaker 14: What?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, so this has been a continuous thing. Okay, so
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Al is maybe obsessed with Moons. Like Willie P.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: You know who didn't like Moons back was Joe Buck.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: That is a disgusting act. This dude said we got
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: a waning offense is what I saw last night.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And that brings us back to the topic. Do we
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: have a waning season?
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: Bone.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: 50 in the wrong heat.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: There's like eight cuts of Al Michaels talking about the moon.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: So last night wasn't the first time.
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: I've got eight different soundbites of him talking about different
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: moons he's covered.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Is it possible that P-Man is trying to get his
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Al Michaels on that? I said Al was trying to
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: act like P. Is it possible that P is copying
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: Al Michaels by doing the moon stuff? Is he stealing
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Al's bit? I need to ask Nick Wilson, the sheriff
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: of bit stealing.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I need to ask Nick.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure Nick would convict Willie P.
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: No wonder Al's on a delay. He's just looking at
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: the moon the whole time. He's staring up there.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Is that a waning gibbous? Is that a beaver moon?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I can't tell. Oh, my God. I had never heard
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of a beaver moon before.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: The text line handling that name very well, too, I
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: will point out, by the way, Bone.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Very maturely. All right, so anyway, we could talk about this,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Sounds like a show on Netflix I would watch.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It does. It probably does. Tonight on Beaver Moon.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: So we could talk about this next week, Bone. We
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: got a whole week. We got no game to react to.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: We jammed all our misery into one week here. Is
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: your inclination, like, how much do you fear, Bone, that
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: this team is too banged up, they don't have the answers,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: and the offense might not be able to pull.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: It back together?
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: We might not see that great level of Bryce again,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: and we just.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: We're not going to win the South. Like how worried
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: are you about that?
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously they've allowed the South to come back
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: to them. And now Atlanta's in first place today, right? In,
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: in the South.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I think, I think we're tied and we have the tiebreaker.
• 39:47
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: So I don't, everyone in this division, as we know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: has their own issues, has their own injuries, has their
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: own problems.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: The Panthers are going through it right now.
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: Who's to say Atlanta, Matt doesn't go through their stretch
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: here and have their problems and, and, Maybe New Orleans
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: comes back up for a few weeks or it's going
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: to be a continuous thing. I have a feeling, Mac,
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: that it's going to go down to the very end
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: of the season. Every team's got problems. No one's going
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: to run away with this thing. Some teams will have
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: a few good weeks. Then there'll be some bad weeks.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: I just think it's going to go all the way
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: to the end, which is kind of frustrating because going
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: into Tampa, I thought, oh, yeah, the Panthers have the
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: edge here. And I think they should be the best
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: team in this division. They're not right now. They have
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: their own problems, but it doesn't mean that all of
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: these other teams and their problems are all of a
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: sudden fixed.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I still, to your point, I'm starting to think everyone's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: got baggage.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: I'm starting to think eight wins could win the division again,
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: but I am also sitting here saying, how the hell
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: are we going to get to eight wins? Like, I just,
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like, I was listening to the guys
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: on the prime post game show last night, Bone, and Whitworth,
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: Richard Sherman, like Richard Sherman was kind of hedging on
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: what he said before the show, which is we're the
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: best team in the South.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: They both said the same thing.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: If this offensive line situation cannot be rectified and they
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: seem to think it can't be, like, what can you do?
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: It's not like we have some defense we can count
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: on every week to hold a.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Team to 13, 16 points.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Like, it's just, is there a way, Bone, you see
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: the offense getting their groove back?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: And then if the offense gets their groove back, does
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: the defense have a meltdown? Like that caller pointed out.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: One could be on it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: The schedule, Mac.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: Because the corners will come back. That defense will get
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: some help. It's not looking. It doesn't mean things can't change.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: All it takes in this league, in this division, is
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: one week, and all of a sudden you feel better.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: But right now, things do not look good. You've got Denver.
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: You've got New Orleans, who's been a problem for us.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: You've got Baltimore. Can't overlook Tampa Bay after what just happened.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: You've got Minnesota, New Orleans again, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Seattle. They're
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: going to have to win some games where they're underdogs,
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: and it doesn't appear like right now that they would
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: have a chance to win them.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: There's not a team in the NFL. There's going to
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: be some upsets that need to be pulled here.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: There's not a team in the NFL you could say,
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: we're playing with this O-line. I'd be like, we got it, baby.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: We're going to light them up.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Not a single one.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I am so shook by what we have seen from
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: the offensive line the last two weeks. Brad's going to
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: have to figure out some answers. They got to ride Chuba.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: They got to get the ball out quick. Even a
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: game like Pittsburgh end of the year. We want to
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: face that defense also? That's another one there at the end.
• 42:28
  Speaker 14: Of the year.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Bone, I don't want to face Charlotte Catholic's defense.
• 42:31
  Speaker 11: Like, I just.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I can't state enough. That has to be one of
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: the worst. This has to be the, the, one of
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: the worst two week stretches for an offensive line in
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: 25 years. It's just, I'm just shook, man. I reserve
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: the right bone to get my head right over the
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: weekend and to come back on Monday and have a
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: better attitude. But I am shook right now, man. I'm like, Bryce,
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: this whole line got me shook.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: And they lose just in ways.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: It's the second half against the Bears. It's the Tampa
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: Bay just destruction. And last night, it's just... completely falling
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: apart back we're not losing many games back 30 27
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: we're oh my god what a ball game so close
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: we lose adjust in ways that just makes you have
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: bile in your belly isn't that what eric holland says.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: What does he say? It's not bile. It's gravel. Gravel
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in your... Is it gravel in your guts? Isn't something
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: in your eye also? Something's in your eye. Something in
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: your eye and something's in your... Got it. He's got
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: gravel in his eye and something in his guts. I
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: don't know. It's not bile, right? We're messing this.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: It's got bile in your guts and anger in your eyes.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I know it doesn't feel good is the point here.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: We'll look that up for you. Oh, man.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: I don't want to get this dude says if we
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: lose Mac and he calls the season off, what will
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: this show even even do?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Draft talk. I don't know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: I'm not.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I just I need to gravel in his guts and
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: spit in his eye. There you go, baby. Thank God
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: for AI. There you go. Allen Iverson texted you or something.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: Huh?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: What?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, AI.
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: No, no.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: The artificial intelligence. How unfunny was that? I think we're
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: getting loopy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: We are.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Punch drunk.
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: Well, we're going to take a break here and try
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: to figure out what just happened there. We're going to
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: talk some college football on the way back. Who is
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: feeling good about their squad this weekend? Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.