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#016_ Always Get Back Up! · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming out here. I'm delighted
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  Speaker 1: to meet you. I'm so excited to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Welcome to our little slice of heaven out here.
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  Speaker 1: This is the uh the this is the veil of
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: If that's a thing, can that be a thing?
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  Speaker 3: It can be a thing. We'll make it a thing.
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  Speaker 2: And we have a special guest here with Lucy Rights. Lucy.
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  Speaker 3: She broke her arm hit by a car.
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  Speaker 2: So well, her cast is very cute.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: How does she get hit by a car?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was chasing after an animal and chased right
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  Speaker 4: after the wheel of the car.
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  Speaker 1: Poor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as I said, all dogs welcome here. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: so cool. Well, I think the best way to kind
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  Speaker 2: of dig into this.
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  Speaker 1: Is, uh, I'm interested in what you're doing right now.
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  Speaker 1: Like you you have a house in Los Angeles, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So do you spend some of your time living out here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I spent part time here and part time in Colorado,
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  Speaker 4: and really most of my time on the road.
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  Speaker 3: For racing.
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  Speaker 4: But I love it, you know, It's it's difficult. I've
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  Speaker 4: always been chasing winter, so it's nice to have a
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  Speaker 4: place that's warm I come back to and my dogs.
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  Speaker 3: Love it here, so cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so typically you would be going to South America
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  Speaker 1: during the warmer months here, right, so you're just chasing
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  Speaker 1: snow year round.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: So I went to Chile a few weeks ago, and
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  Speaker 4: normally we go to New Zealand, but I didn't go
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  Speaker 4: this year. And yeah, we're just constantly chasing, chasing the snow.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, usually October is when we go to
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  Speaker 4: Europe and then November we're starting training again in Colorado,
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  Speaker 4: so it's kind of NonStop. Yeah, we just have a
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  Speaker 4: few months off in the summer where we're working out
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  Speaker 4: in the gym.
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  Speaker 2: What are you training for right now?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is gonna be my last season on
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  Speaker 4: the World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: Is that official?
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  Speaker 4: I've kind of said it a couple of times, but
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  Speaker 4: no one really seems to believe me. So I'm just
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  Speaker 4: gonna repeat myself that I'm retiring, and you know, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm really going to look to enjoy this
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  Speaker 4: last season and I'm hoping to break the World Cup
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  Speaker 4: win record, which is eighty six and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Eighty too right now, right, Yeah, so that's my big goal.
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  Speaker 4: There's also World Championships in Sweden in February. But I
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  Speaker 4: really just want to enjoy this last season and have
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  Speaker 4: fun with it, and you know, if I break it, great,
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  Speaker 4: If not, you know, I've had a great career and
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  Speaker 4: I'm just ready to.
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  Speaker 3: Do something different.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's a healthy person.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it didn't start off that way, but
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  Speaker 4: it has now gotten to the healthy part.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be interesting how it's all evolved
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  Speaker 1: for you. Because as a young person you can just
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  Speaker 1: train and nap and life is very contained and simple,
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  Speaker 1: and you live a very large life. Right now, You've
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  Speaker 1: got a ton of competing interests and all different kinds
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  Speaker 1: of things that you could be doing. I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: you have to say no to a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: and fun opportunities, but based on like looking at your Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: which is a terrible barometer.
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  Speaker 2: That's not really oh.
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  Speaker 1: Training really hard and then like having fun and then
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  Speaker 1: like lots of dog stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, yes, I mean most of my life right now
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  Speaker 4: still revolves around, you know, preparing for the ski season
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  Speaker 4: and being in the gym. And I've tried to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: have more fun with it and do interesting things do
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  Speaker 4: like contests and a bunch of balanced stuff make it
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  Speaker 4: more fun. But yeah, there are definitely a lot of
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  Speaker 4: opportunities that are coming my way, and it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: kind of decide what to do. And you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: definitely a pivot point in my life and transition period.
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  Speaker 4: And I can't say that I know exactly, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the main focus of what I'll be doing next. But
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  Speaker 4: I have a lot of really interesting and cool opportunities,
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  Speaker 4: So I'm excited about the future. Uh, it's really weird
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  Speaker 4: to still think about life without ski racing, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: I know, physically, I just can't do it anymore. And
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  Speaker 4: the grind mentally of grinding physically takes its toll.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well there's that rumor circling around that the
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  Speaker 1: Rock is going to show you around Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fellow under armor athletemate, Well he happened yet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I've definitely kind of leaned on him
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  Speaker 4: as a kind of a mentor, and his road to
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  Speaker 4: success is pretty incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's the world's greatest mentor. Yes, if you
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  Speaker 1: could have him as a mentor, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: We would all be so lucky.
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  Speaker 4: Right. So I'm just like, what, you know, anytime I
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  Speaker 4: have a question, I just ask him and and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I went on set with him on Ballers, and I
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  Speaker 4: in between takes, I was just you know, hammering him
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  Speaker 4: with questions and and then he'd go and do his line,
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  Speaker 4: you know, super easy, then take a break, and I'd
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  Speaker 4: you know, continue hammering him. But I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's definitely something that I would be interested in doing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if i'd be great at it, but
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  Speaker 4: he seems to think that I will be so because
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  Speaker 4: you know what, we have the same mentality of just
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  Speaker 4: hard work, and I think that, you know, if I
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  Speaker 4: have that opportunity, i'd work really hard to be good
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  Speaker 4: at it.
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  Speaker 2: So well, you're both grinders.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, definitely definitely grinders.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know where that guy's source of energy
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  Speaker 1: comes from.
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  Speaker 2: There seems to be.
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  Speaker 3: Limit that's I said.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I need at least like eight or nine
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  Speaker 4: hours of sleep, you know, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 4: survive on this grind that you have going. And he's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: I get, you know, six or seven hours. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you wake up at three am.
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  Speaker 3: Right every day, so I don't know what math you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: But crazy inspiration all that, He'll like fly all the
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  Speaker 1: way to Europe from LA and then arrive at like
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  Speaker 1: three in the morning and immediately go work out, and you.
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  Speaker 2: Know it's crazy cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: But before that, you're still training right now and you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to balance all of that with all the fancy
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  Speaker 1: stuff that you get to do. What does that training
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  Speaker 1: look like and how do you, you know, maintain that
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  Speaker 1: level of intensity and focus. Like, I know, you're a grinder,
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  Speaker 1: it's like your disposition. It's probably not hard for you,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, it is different than when
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  Speaker 1: you were eighteen nineteen years old.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot different. I mean, just based on
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  Speaker 4: my injuries, it makes things so much hard harder. You know,
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  Speaker 4: my my workouts are all kind of modified to.
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  Speaker 3: Just do what I can do. Basically. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: can't jump, I can't run.
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  Speaker 2: You know I can't jump. You can't run. Come on,
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was able to jump until recently and now it's
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  Speaker 4: just I'm bone on bone. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So I just it's it's it's had enough, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to stop doing that. You're running. I've never been good
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  Speaker 3: at running, so like, let's let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: But you're on the bike a lot, right, You're on
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  Speaker 2: the bike all the.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, every day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you ride out the worst two
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  Speaker 2: or just.
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  Speaker 3: All when I'm home in Colorado.
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  Speaker 4: I can't say that Los Angeles is the best place
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  Speaker 4: for road biking.
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  Speaker 2: If you come up here, it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: But it's hot.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like degrees no, not right now.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's Ocober and yeah it's almost ski seasons, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's I love I love biking outside, you know, in
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  Speaker 4: the mountains. It's it's pretty incredible in Colorado. But it
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  Speaker 4: can get really monotonous, you know. And then you know,
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  Speaker 4: before I ski, you have to warm up my knee
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  Speaker 4: and work out for like forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's just a process.
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  Speaker 4: It's not even remotely close to what I did when
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  Speaker 4: I was, you know, eighteen nineteen years old. I used
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  Speaker 4: to just get up and go and you get on
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  Speaker 4: the hill and you just bomb down the mountain and
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's it. And now it's like this whole
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  Speaker 4: long process because I'm old and more down.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking to somebody who's fifty two, Like, I get.
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  Speaker 4: It, I know, but you're like, you love pain, you
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  Speaker 4: do like you used to do, travels and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You're crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a grinder, but I'm like, you know, my level
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  Speaker 1: of grind isn't anything like yours. Uh, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I think and certainly you know, I haven't had I
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  Speaker 1: haven't sustained the kind of injuries that you've had. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's impossible to even keep track of all the
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  Speaker 1: things that you've had to weather through, Like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how many pins and screws do you have in your body?
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  Speaker 2: I mean you got scars all over you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this is like, you know, the laundry list
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  Speaker 1: of injuries that you've had would have just ended the
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  Speaker 1: career of most people, or at least.
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  Speaker 2: Sidelining them for much longer than you.
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  Speaker 1: But You've you've had this ability to always come back,
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  Speaker 1: always come back, always come back, like always overcome the obstacle,
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  Speaker 1: and like continue to show up, show up, show up.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think, you know, it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: beat the person that never gives up. You know, It's
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  Speaker 4: just I have a passion for what I do. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, everyone has their ups and downs, Everyone has
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  Speaker 4: their obstacles they have to face. Maybe mine are worse
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  Speaker 4: than most, but not the worst that others have had.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I always try to keep thinking things
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  Speaker 4: in perspective and understand that I am still really lucky
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  Speaker 4: to be able to do what I do, and I
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  Speaker 4: just work as hard as I can, and if I'm
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  Speaker 4: successful after injury, then great, If not, I'm still doing
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  Speaker 4: what I love.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, to me, there is no downside in
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  Speaker 3: trying your best.
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  Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment after sustaining one of these
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  Speaker 1: injuries where you just.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, like, that's it, I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: My arm injury was pretty bad because I couldn't use
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  Speaker 4: my hand.
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  Speaker 1: That was in sixteen, right, Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: you lost the feeling in your hand for quite a while.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for about two months. I couldn't move my hand,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, not only am I not
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  Speaker 4: skiing again, but I'm not going to be able to
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  Speaker 4: eat food or sign my I couldn't sign my name,
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't write the alph a bit I could really
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  Speaker 4: hold a pencil.
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  Speaker 2: So how long did it take before the feeling came back?
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  Speaker 4: I started to be able to move my hand, like
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  Speaker 4: move the fingers after about a month, and then I
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  Speaker 4: again like full strength. It probably took like four or
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  Speaker 4: five months, but it was really scary because your knee
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's your knee. You're going to
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  Speaker 4: get better. You just have to be patient, do the work,
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  Speaker 4: and it'll turn around. But with my hand, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they didn't they couldn't really give me an estimate. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: we don't know, could get better, not get better. You
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  Speaker 4: could have no function on your hand ever again, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and that was pretty scary.
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  Speaker 1: Because those nerves have to regenerate right and grow, and
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  Speaker 1: they grow very very slowly. Yeah, so did you continue
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  Speaker 1: to train throughout that or yeah, you like taped your
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  Speaker 1: hand to the ski poles, right, Well, I try.
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  Speaker 4: I was skiing in that, like I when my hand
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  Speaker 4: got cold, I lost a bit of feeling and I
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  Speaker 4: just dropped my poll a couple of times. And so
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  Speaker 4: to me, it's not worth, you know, losing a race
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  Speaker 4: because I simply dropped my pole.
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  Speaker 3: So I just duct taped it to my hand and
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  Speaker 3: moved on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that that, you know what really, I mean, certainly,
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  Speaker 1: you're unbelievably talented and you've been at the top of
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  Speaker 1: your game for for so long. But I think people
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  Speaker 1: who don't really understand or know that much about you
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  Speaker 1: just think, oh, well, she's the greatest skier of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's out there, she she just wins everything constantly.
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  Speaker 2: But when you really drill down.
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  Speaker 1: Into your career, it's it's like, you know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: high highs and low lows consistently throughout right. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's marked with a million setbacks, way more than you
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  Speaker 1: know somebody. You know, I've followed your career and then
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  Speaker 1: I started to like really read more, you know, dive
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  Speaker 1: into the details of it, and I was like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, like you've really had to sink You've sank low,
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  Speaker 1: and you've constantly come back and come back and come back.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm interested in like the mindset required to do
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  Speaker 1: something like that, because if I had to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if somebody asked me, like what distinguishes Lin's Yvonne from
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, I think it's what's between your ears as
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  Speaker 1: much as anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously you have to be willing to
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  Speaker 4: put the work in, but I think the will to
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  Speaker 4: be able to push yourself to overcome things is something
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  Speaker 4: that you can't teach. You know, you either have it
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  Speaker 4: or you don't, and you're either willing to sacrifice things
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  Speaker 4: and push yourself where you're not.
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  Speaker 2: And what is it like? Yeah, how do you define that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I think there's it's you know, it's an
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  Speaker 4: element of grit that you know, And I've talked with
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  Speaker 4: several people about this. It's hard to really say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what is grit and how do you get it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it something that you learn? Can you teach it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you can.
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  Speaker 4: I think I mean, I think I learned definitely from
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  Speaker 4: my grandfather and my father on you know what work is,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, you just shut up and do the job.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's there's no complaining, There's there's no reason
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  Speaker 4: to you know, you could have life a lot worse
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  Speaker 4: than what you do. So you know, you're given a
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  Speaker 4: task and you just have to accomplish it no matter what.
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  Speaker 4: So I think there's an element of that that's ingrained
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  Speaker 4: in me from from those two figures in my life.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's also that I'm just passionate about
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  Speaker 4: ski racing.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I think if you're passionate about something and you're willing to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, push yourself that hard, you're willing to go
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  Speaker 4: the extra mile that maybe others wouldn't. It's an and
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  Speaker 4: it's not just about skiing, it's really about anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, most of the people that are highly successful
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  Speaker 4: are not the best at what they do or the
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  Speaker 4: most talented at what they do, but they're willing to
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  Speaker 4: work harder than everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And how do you maintain that level of passion
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  Speaker 1: over the years and years and years.
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  Speaker 2: It has to like wax and wane.
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  Speaker 1: Right, There's got to be moments where you're like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not feeling so passionate right now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there are definitely times when you wake up,
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  Speaker 4: you know, at four or five in the morning and
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's not fun to do that, But
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  Speaker 4: whenever I'm on the mountain, I really enjoy it. And
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  Speaker 4: there's I think it's also at this point a way
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  Speaker 4: of therapy for me, you know, with everything that goes
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  Speaker 4: on in my life, I think that ski racing is
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  Speaker 4: my outlet. You know. It's the one place where you know,
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  Speaker 4: I can control everything and I have the freedom to
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  Speaker 4: do what I want. And it's it's a weird image
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  Speaker 4: to think about life without that therapy. You know, I
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: don't really know that's a that's probably not a good thing,
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  Speaker 4: but you're but you're.
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  Speaker 2: So involved in so many other things, all right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I'm not worried about that necessarily. It's just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's where I think the passion comes from,
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  Speaker 4: is because it's that's ski racing is like my place,
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  Speaker 4: you know, It's it's where I'm the happiest. And that's
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  Speaker 4: why it's easy for me to keep pushing to get
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  Speaker 4: back to it because it just makes me happy.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think it is that that distinguishes a
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  Speaker 1: good ski racer from a great ski racer? Like, what
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  Speaker 1: is the what is like the one attribute of that
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: specific discipline that is crucial to reach, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: highest level of the sport. That might be different from
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  Speaker 1: playing basketball or you know, any other given discipline.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's an element of fear that you just
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  Speaker 4: can't have if you want to be highly successful at
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  Speaker 4: ski racing. You know, you have to be willing to
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: crash and crash hard and get back up and keep
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  Speaker 4: doing it. You know, it's not like basketball where you know, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you're running into some guy, you get.
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  Speaker 3: An elbow to the face.
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  Speaker 4: That's not the same as you know, crashing at eighty
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  Speaker 4: five miles an hour. And I just think that it's Uh,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: it's again, it's something that you either have or you don't.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: And I think.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I've always been the person that's really crazy and I've
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: never had that fear. And even since I was, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: nine years old, I was skiing downhill and everyone thought
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I was nuts.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: But right you were like me, it was like a
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Comakazi film like Day One, just crazy. Yeah, I mean
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I think it is true, like you either have that
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: or you don't. But if you have it, you can
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: still lose it. And as somebody who's suffered these crazy
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: injuries and horrible crashes, a normal person would would would
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: probably have even if it's just the slightest bit of hesitation. Right,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between podium and you know, fiftieth place. Yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: in a sport where you know, it's it's measured in
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, hundreds of the seconds. So even that
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: like almost instinctual, impulsive, like you know, reaction that makes
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you hold back just a little bit because your leg
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: bent the wrong way and the last time.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: You made that move, you know, how do you override that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: And still get into that zone where that is not
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a factor in how you're making those tiny little decisions.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I mean it's I think most people that have been
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: injured and say they do have that hesitation and it
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: takes a while to get over it. I for some
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: reason don't have that, which is maybe why crash so often.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: But I just write like she never learns.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, what's wrong with me? I just don't
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't see the point in being afraid,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: because if you're afraid and you have that hesitation, then
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: you're not going to win races anyways. So try to
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: look at it from like a logical perspective.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But I mean, it's not logical though.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It's completely a function of your unconscious mind.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I think. I think it's weird.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awkward to even ask these questions because I I,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you're this is just who you are, right, and you're
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: being asked to explain it like it doesn't it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: But it's like, that's actually a question I get asked
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: a lot, and it's always a difficult one for me
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: to answer because I don't really know why I am
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: the way I am right, but that is what I am.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: You've never you've always been you don't know what it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: like to be right. Yeah, it's It's interesting.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I mean because when I think about downhill ski racing,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: which is a discipline so different than than anything that
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I ski, but that you know that I
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: specialize in, it's you're moving so quickly and you're making
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: these decisions that are so tiny, but you have to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: be forecasting down the mountain and making decisions that are
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: impacting what you're going to do three seconds later when
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you get down there. Like the level of like it's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: all happening so quickly and there and there, and every
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: little thing is so tiny, right, Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I mean it's very similar to car racing, but you're
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: not you don't have the protection of a car. Uh huh.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I think it's also too Once you're adapted to going
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that fast, things tend to slow down. You know, you're
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: able to see things more clearly because that seems to
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: be a normal speed.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot with me that's very instinctual.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: You know, my reactions are as planned as possible, but
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: at the same time, when you're going that fast, you
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: are relying on your instincts, and thankfully, I think for
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the most part, I have pretty good ones.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: But you know, what I'm trying to win.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I make the wrong ones and right and then
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I crash.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you're going for it, you know
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: it's going to happen, right, That's the thing.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I mean. I'd rather, you know, I'd rather go down
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: trying to win, then you know, get safe through the
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: finish line in last place. You know, I just want
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: to push myself and see what I'm capable of.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, how many races are you doing this season?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Like you got to get You're at eighty two. You
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: want to get to eighty six. That's you need four
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: more wins. How many chances at that?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I think I have?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: It's got to be twenty something?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, yeah, downhome on Super G races there's
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: or maybe eighteen something like that. There's like nine or
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: ten of each discipline. Last year I got five wins,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: which was a not I mean, it was pretty good,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: but it wasn't like a crazy good year for me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: So but I think, you know, the more I just
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: focus on enjoying my last season and just kind of
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: going out with a bang and not really focusing on
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: that record, I think the better off I'll be.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're you're trying not to think too much
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Overthinking is a really bad Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, speaking of that, I mean, how do
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you kind of mentally prepare and visualize a race like
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: when you're in the gate, like are you at a blank?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Do you do formal practices where you visualize every aspect
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of going down that mountain so that when you show
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: up it's just your your kind of like just presence
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: or how does that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Work for you?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: So we have in Downhill, we usually have one or
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: two training runs where we get to run the course
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: and normally I'll have a pretty good idea of you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: what I want to do, I'll know the line, I'll
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: be able to visualize it, you know, at least one
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: hundred times leading up to the race, and when I
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: get in the starting gate, then I don't really have
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: to think about it because it's already ingrained.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: In my mind.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: And a lot of the times with these tracks, too,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: is that it's the same course that it's been for
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: the last ten years, you know, fifteen.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Years, right, so I've been doing us your whole life.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know a lot of times I probably
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: don't even need to look at the course to know
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: exactly what I need to do. But you know, like
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I said, it's it's having that plan and being confident
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: in what you're doing. But then at the end of
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: the day, when you're in the course, you have to
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: have those instincts to be able to react because you
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: could hit you know, a patch of icy snow or
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: you know, the lights flat and you can't see a bump,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and you know, you go offline and then you know
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: you're scrambling and you have to make those instantaneous decisions
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: that will determine whether you win or lose the race.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: How important are our mentors to you? I mean, your dad,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: your grandfather were obviously instrumental, and you becoming a skier
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in the first place, and then you meet Peek a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Boo and that was a big moment for you. But
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: where you're at right now, do you still have people
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: in your life that you look to for guidance in
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: different areas?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Like how does that work? And how do you think
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I definitely do.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I mean I think that, you know, from an athletic perspective,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you know there's obviously the people like Roger Fetter and
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Serena and you know, I still.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Look to people people like Peekaboo, you know, as as
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: my idol.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: But I think more so it's like my friends and
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: my family that keep me grounded. That's most important to
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: me at this point. I know, you know, I know
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: how to ski, I know that part of my life,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: but a lot of the time I just need people
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: to be real with me and kind of keep me grounded.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And and that's how I'm able to stay the same person,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you know, I And I'm happy with who I am.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want to change who I am. So it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: really important for me to be around on those stable
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: people that really can support me the way I need it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It would be so easy for you to surround yourself
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: with a ton of people that just tell you how
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: awesome you are all the time. Yeah, it's especially in
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: this town, you know, and then you know, fast forward
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: one year from really good.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Decisions unless you have the wrong friends.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's a big city.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, LA is a very easy target to make
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: fun of, and there's certainly lots of things wrong with it,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: but there's all kinds of people here, and there's amazing
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: people doing incredible things that are influencing culture. And I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: think it's a really cool place to live.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I think it just takes a little.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Bit longer to find your tribe here. Yea, it would
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: somewhere else, you know what I mean. So, I mean
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: that kind of naturally leads us into this, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: conversation about you as as a role model. I mean,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: clearly you're a role model to a lot of people,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of young women. Does that influence how you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: make decisions? Like how do you kind of shoulder that
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: sense of responsibility?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I mean I've I've kind of always felt
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: that level of responsibility because I remember when I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: looking up to Peekaboo and how much of an impact
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: she had on me, And so when now the roles
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: are reverse, I definitely have always felt that, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I need to conduct myself in a.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Certain way that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: You know, not only my family would approve of, but
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: you know, the young girls and kids that look up
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: to me would approve of as well. So I started
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: my foundation as well in twenty fifteen, and our mission
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: is to empower and inspire young girls. I've got camps
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and scholarships and programs and and you know that's something
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: that's really important to me. You know, being able to
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: do something positive with the position that I'm in. You know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: if i'm I don't want to be just a ski racer.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I want to have a positive impact on
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: the world and you know, help these kids accomplish their
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: dreams and help them try to be healthy and happy
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: and positive, productive humans.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So it's scholarships for young women for athletes only, or
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: all different kinds of girls sports.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, there are some scholarships we give out to athletes,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: but it's mostly educational based programs like STEM, the STEM program.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of random things, like a girl
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: wanted to be a race car driver and she couldn't
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: get in because she's a girl, and you know, she.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Needed extra help.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: There's there's you know, a couple of really interesting stories
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: in there. But yeah, it's a very diverse group and
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I never want to close the door to you know, anyone,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: So if I can help, I will.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Well, it's such an amazing moment right now for women
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and female empowerment. And you know, something I say on
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the podcast all the time is that there's no shortage
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of amazing women doing incredible things.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: There's role models everywhere.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: We just don't do a very good job of shining
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a spotlight on them as well as we could and should.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: But I feel like recent events over the course of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the past year have really shifted the ballast of.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: That, and now we're.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: We're seeing so much more attention and respect for incredible
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: women who are you know, putting their stamp on culture
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in positive ways, which is really cool. Yeah, but I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: think you know that on that subject of responsibility, I mean,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it's got to be difficult for you with the name
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that you have and the profile that you have, like
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: navigating the treacherous waters of social media and like all
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the you know, nonsense that goes on there. I mean
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: there's been you know, well documented dramas that you had
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to weather through all of that, Like how do you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: do you just compartmentalize that, or do you like not
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: read mentions, or how do you like deal with the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: noise so that you can stay focused on what it
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: is that you're trying to accomplish and stay positive.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: It's hard, all the nonsense out there, it's really hard.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I think when I'm skiing, you know, in season, it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: a little bit easier because I have that outlet of skiing,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: and I don't really think twice about what people say.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: It's mostly in the summer that I have a harder
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: time with it. You have more time on your hands,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: and you know, I'm on the bike for a few
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: hours and I'm let's see what these people.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: To see what's happening.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Never a good idea, such.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: A bad idea.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: And you know, before the Olympics it was, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I it was there's a lot of death threats and
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: it was just like pretty crazy. But you know, I
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: try to remember. I try to think about, like, you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: who these people are, and that they're not important people
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: in my life and they don't care about me, so
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: why should I care about them?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: And that's a hard thing to keep in perspective because
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: it does tear you down, you know it. It is
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a hard, hard and harsh world to live in.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: These days. So I just do the best I can.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Some days it affects me more than others, but I
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: try really hard not to read things.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It's so insane that you had to that you received
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: death threats.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I hope you have a cliff and die. I hope
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: you're in a wheelchair the rest of your life.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: It's just keyboard Warriors.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Every time I fell that, Like, there you go, that's karma.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Like you're a terrible person.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It's a crazy world that we live in.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: My family loves me. It's matter.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It is true though, I mean, it is true.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: It is true.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So what is it? Tell me?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Walk me through your training routine now, because you're a beast?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Were you a gold this morning?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I insta post.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I hate having to beat traffic. I have to
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: wake up so early.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Usually I go work out at the Red Bull gym.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: But yeah, normally in the mornings it's like, uh, you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I've got my warm up, my mobility, my knee warm up,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: and then I do core lifting, balance, and then the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: afternoon is biking.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: So two days, like five days a week or something
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like that. You got the peloton.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I don't actually use the classes most of the time though,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: which is kind of counterintuitive.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: They have those ones where you can ride like through
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the city.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it's kind of cool. I like I rode
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: the Hawaii one and I was like, I've never been here,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: but this looks really nice.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I just you know, my my trainer has a program
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and you know, like I said, it's difficult because I
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: can't do a lot of things that I used to
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: do and then I actually really need to do, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: we modify things to accommodate for my limitations with my knee.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: But like core strength, explosive power type exercises, free weights,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: like that's the focus of it, right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of core you know, rotational ability, a lot
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: of glute work, you know, cleans, power cleans, a lot
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: of squats that lifts, like kind of the basic you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: core power exercises.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But then once you get to the mountain, then it
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: just does it just become a combination of skiing plus
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: all of that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a more toned down version of my
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: workouts because most of my energy is going to my skiing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: But it's hard on the road when you're traveling and
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: racing because you don't always have the energy to be
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: able to do the lifting sessions. But you really need
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: to do the lifting sessions. Like I have a problem
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: during the season. I tend to get really skinny because
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I just can't maintain that same level of weightlifting and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: muscle mass.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Well, you're just constantly traveling from one venue.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: To the next, right and also stressed.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the very romantic way making the picture of
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: what that's actually like.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: There's probably a lot of people who think you're just
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you're cruising around in a private yet everywhere. But it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: like it's hard I drive.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I mean in Europe, you know, you drive, you race,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you get in the car,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: you pack up, Sunday night, you drive six hours.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Is there like a bus or do you drive yourself?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: How does that work? Because you're a team, but you're
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: not really Yeah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: We're not really we yeah, we're not.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: We Almost all of us have our own cars, toyotas,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: and then we just I'm like, I've got so much
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: crap that I just fill mine to the top.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: And then Lucy's my passenger.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: So she goes to Europe with you.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she goes everywhere.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: I mean it's difficult, you know when when you're you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: always by yourself, you know, you're in the car by yourself,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: and then you get.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: To the hotel.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: You always come home to an empty hotel room. It's
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: pretty depressing. So I got Lucy to help me with that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: It's always nice to just have a friendly face It
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter if I crash or if I want. She's
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: always happy to see me. And right, I wish I
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: could travel with my two big dogs. But you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: they're really big.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: So where do they do? They live here in la
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: or in Vail in Colorado?
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have some okay, Yeah, he takes care of
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: them when I'm not around. Uh huh.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a hold. You got a bunch of
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: brothers and sisters, right, Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I have four, two brothers and two sisters, the lower
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: three year triplets.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: The youngest three.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Wow. So you you grew up in Minnesota and then
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the whole family moved to Vale. Yeah, to support you. Right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of pressure on a little kid.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: It was a lot.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I'm really thankful and lucky that
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I have such good siblings. You know, none of them
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: have resented me or you know, have held it over
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: me that we moved out there.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, they all lost their friends, you know, we
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: hold were they. I was like.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Twelve thirteen, so the triplets were six seven.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, well they're so young, I mean.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: And Karen was Karen was ten eleven. They didn't really
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: mess any well with the kids there, so it was
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: a pretty tough transition.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had to succeed to legitimize
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that for the family.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And it was a weird.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: It was a weird thing, like like you didn't realize
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you were moving until you hadn't actually already moved.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Or something, and your parents were like, Okay, we're here.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were going on vacation, and then we got
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: there and it was like surprise, we're never going home.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. And your grandfather was a ski jumper, right,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and then jumper dad was a.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Scare Yeah, my dad was a racer. My dad was
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: also he also played football. My grandfather played offense and
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: defense football. He was a boxer, he run track and field.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: He was like, wow, yeah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Definitely have good genetics in that sense. But I can't
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: say I'm like really as athletic as they are. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: have a really good feel for the snow, but I'm
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: not you know, I can't play basketball, I can't run
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: like I gave him, you know, any ball sports, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I I have no chance.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but would you rather be pretty good at a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of sports?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I much rather have what I have.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: You're like, my siblings are So my sister just ran
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: in the Chicago Marathon yesterday, really proud of her first
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: killed out ever to run more than like two miles
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: at one time. Huh.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So it's like you're like Norwegian now right, Yeah, but.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: We don't feel like no, no, we are like, you know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: we're not racehorses.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: We are Clydesdale's. We are built for slow and steady labor.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: You know, because the woman who skis down the mountain
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: at like eighty.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Five miles, I'm like, I'm like a sturdy, strong like
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: train just barreling down the mountain. You know. It's like
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: we're not built for you know, I am not built
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: like you. I am not built for endurance.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I can't do anything like you
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: So it's it all, it's all, it's all relative.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: But so your sister ran the marathon. Did everybody ski
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: growing ski growing up?
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: But my one brother, Read was really the only one
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: that loved ski racing.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: The rest of them just could care less.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: My sister Karen marathon her She only won races if
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: we bribed her with hot chocolate at the finish, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: or like we got a hot chocolate waiting for you
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: with marshmallows and she'd be like oh yeah, yeah, or
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: like she had to go to the bathroom, was like, no,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you gotta hold it in, and then she's like, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: want to go.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: And it sounds like your dad. I mean it was
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: pretty intense with your dad.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my dad. It seemed like my grandfather's.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, they demanded a certain level of dedication
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: and you know, intensity to whatever it is you're gonna do.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: You have to have pride in what you do and
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: do it to the best of your ability. So if
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: you didn't live up to your own standard, then you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: it was It was definitely not an easy household to
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: live in. But I think that it was really good
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: because it made us better people. I can't say at
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: the time that I felt that way necessarily all the time, but.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Those are important life lessons. Yeah, that serve you well
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: later in life.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, we all turned out really well, so you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I think they needed a good job.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're that pendulum has swung very far
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: in the other direction where everybody gets a metal and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: we're all perfect snowflakes.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And all of that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not agree with that.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, this is we'll see what the Olympic team
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in twenty thirty two looks like.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: With that everyone gets a gold medal.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised, you know.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm interested in how it works with all the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: crazy doping controls that are going on right now.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Like I had.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Brian Fogelan here, the director of Icarus. Did you see
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that movie? Unfortunately you did, So what is what's your
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: reaction to that?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Like it's crazy?
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, never I had suspicions that,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you know, some people in my sport, you know, may
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: or may not have done something. But it's really scary
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: to see that because it's been happening for clearly a
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: very long period of time, and you know it's been
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: it's a systematic problem and I don't think that they
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: probably have fixed it, even with what they've done to
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: reprimand Russia. Yeah, but it's it's just scary to think
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: of how if you really, if you really want to
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: get away.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: With it, you can.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure people want to win badly enough to
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: where you know they'll do something. But for me, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: I'm scared even I don't even take you know, vite
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: have and see like I'm scared to take anything, Like
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: anything that I do take, like a protein powder, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: has to be the NSF certified, and so like for me,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: it's been a really big problem over my career to
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: trust anything that I'm taking, like I have to send
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: like if I'm taking any sort of supplement, I have
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: to send the whole batch out to get it tested
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: and certified. And so it's pretty exciting for me now
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: to be able to be at this point in my
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: career where kind of in the same direction that like
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: my book is, you know, as Strong as a New
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Beautiful and and I think that's another part of my
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: legacy that is really important to me, trying to allow
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: people to understand what they're doing so that they can
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: live healthier lives and be happier.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Don't I never liked working out, but until I accepted
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: it and you know, enjoyed it, now I feel like
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: I need it. You know, it makes me feel better.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I'm happier when I work out, and you know, that's
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: something that I want to share with people and help
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: them find that as well and find just their own
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: way to be.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Happier.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It is so difficult for an athlete of your stature
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to navigate what's okay to eat and not eat. I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: mean every Olympic athlete that I know, like they just
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: stay away from all supplements altogether because it's just too terrifying. Yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and you are hearing about athletes that test dirty and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it turns out like they had a tainted protein powder
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Like you just can't trust anything.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: And I know a little bit about how those labs
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: work where a lot of these companies are having their
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: products manufactured and there's so much contamination and there's very
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: little oversight and there's no regulation, Like you have.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: No idea what's going on there.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: You think you're finding something you can't trust that what
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it says on the label is actually what's in there.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: And if you were to take it to a lab
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and test it, I can almost guarantee you that it
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: will look very different than what.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: That nutrition is exactly.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: And yeah, like you said, I mean, as an athlete,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: it's it's scary to even like I don't even want
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: to touch I don't even look at it. You know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: those those like anything you find in like a you know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: health food store, none of that stuff is most likely
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: what it says it is, you know, and the percentage
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: of vitamins and supplements that are tainted or you know,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: have products and then they're ingredients in them that aren't
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: actually what says on the label is like so.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: High because they're cross producing these multitude of lines in
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: these facilities where all different kinds of products are getting
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: made using the same equipment.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've been approached by a lot of
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: different companies, you know, throughout my career. And I know
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: there's some athletes, maybe not Olympic athletes, but some athletes
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that have you know, more lenient restrictions on their their doping.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Rules.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: You know, they've promoted other companies, But I just have
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: never felt comfortable, you know, saying putting my name on
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: a product. You know, I don't want to tell the people,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: tell the public to be taking something that I wouldn't
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: even take. You know that I can't trust what's in it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: You know. It's it's about leading a healthy lifestyle. Life
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: is a workout, and you know, like I said, I
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: I don't I have never trusted taking anything.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: What do you think people most misunderstand about you? I Mean,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: there's so much press out there. People have to be
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: getting it wrong all the time.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it just in general. You know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: anyone in the spotlight.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Has you know, there's this perception that's out there, you know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: they're you know, I think most people don't know that
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I have depression, and you know, they're like, oh, you're
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: successful and you're pretty and whatever, and it's like, why
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: aren't you happy? And all those things don't equal happiness.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: You know, because I'm successful doesn't mean that I'm happy.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: It's important for me to surround myself with with you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: the people that I love that make me happy, and
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: that's you know, that's something that keeps me grounded and
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: keeps me going. But I just hate the misconception that like,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: you know, my life's perfect and I'm happy and everything's
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: like Instagram, right, it's all perfect.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well if those people had just crashed one of
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the times that you carry, how does the uh, how does.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: The depression work? How does that manifest? I don't know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I mean I've had it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I've been taking medicine for it since I was like
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: eighteen or nineteen, but you know, it definitely is more
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: difficult when I'm injured. I just take medicine, you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: the whole every day, because I you know, it's not
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: worth it. It's not like, you know, you're depress, You're
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: gonna take an advill, you know, it's like it's not
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: you have to be consistent about how you're you're taking it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: And and I obviously see it there therapist, and that's important.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: It definitely helps me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Because it's difficult to talk about, you know, some of
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: the things in my life because I don't feel like
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: many people understand it. And I always feel like I'm complaining,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: but you.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Know, you're not allowed to complain, you know what I mean.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: You know, well, it's to do that, you know, because
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: this life.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is that that boxes you
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: into like this prison where you feel like you just
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: can't be who you You can't be honest about your
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: your real life experience because people will judge you for
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that because you've you know, been privileged to have experiences
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that most people will never get to have.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's tough.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: And I and I understand where they're coming from because
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: you know, I can see it from that side as well.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: But I do have my issues, and you know, it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: definitely difficult sometimes and very I'd say the hardest thing
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: about what I do is just being low.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm on the road a lot.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: And in an empty hotel and in an empty house.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: And you know.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I'm lucky that I have a really great boyfriend, and
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: you know, I have three dogs, and I have a
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: great family and people that support me. But it doesn't
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: take away from the fact that I am still alone
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and I do feel that really deep loneliness that really
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: affects me a lot.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Of the time. And so yeah, it's something that I
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I am working on.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And all of that everything kind of rides on your shoulder.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: It's the foundation these relationships with all of these sponsors.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're alone in a hotel room in some
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: village in Europe, but there's a whole machine that's kind
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of depending upon you to continually produce, produce, produce.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the hard part is like I just realized
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: that when Lucy got run over by a car. It
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: was like, you know, I have all these things that
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I have to do, and if I can't do them,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happens like that, you know, the
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: whole system implodes, and you know I had to take
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: a week off to you know, take her to surgery,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: and I had to cancel all these things, and it
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: was just kind of an interesting realization that you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I can't stop and I'm used to grinding, so.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: It's you know, it's I mean, you don't stop anyway.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: But still still it was like, you know, there are
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of things in motion that you know, I
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: have to keep in motion and I can't just stop
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: doing them. Yeah, a lot of people rely on me,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: and uh, there is a lot of feeling that I
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: can't let anyone down, you know, and.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Well those are external pressures. I mean, what does it
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: look like on the.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Inside, Like what what is it you know, behind all of.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: This that's like driving you? Like is it? I mean?
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: And you can say, oh.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I just I want to be the best
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: version of myself or you know, I like to win
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but like what's beneath that, like is really
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: like the pilot light that is like igniting this whole
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: thing that keeps you like on this constant grind forward
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to like excel.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I think it has to do with me not being
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: not ever being satisfied. I feel like I can do better.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: And it's also I think a feeling I'm not being
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: good enough, you know somehow, you know, one win isn't enough.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I need to win to and you know that I'm
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: never complacent, you know, I'm never satisfied with what I have.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I just have the always have that urge
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: to keep going. You know, I want something more, do
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: something that someone's never done before, you know, try something new,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: you know, start my own company, you know, work with
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: people that no one else has worked with. It's like,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I just have this drive that makes me
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: want to just be better, and it's not It probably
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: is for mixed reasons, you know, like from my from
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: you know, family, growing up, and you know there's I'm
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: sure there's a lot of psychological.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, go into that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's insecurities and all of that, these things
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: that we all share as human beings. I mean, you
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: know of course that if you're somebody who who you
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: know won, you know this many wins is never enough.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: You know, when you get that eighty six or eighty
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: seven or eighty eight, it's still not going to be.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: How do you peace? Right?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Why you got to you gotta like that's an inside
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: job for exactly.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: That's definitely an inside job, and it's something that I've
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: had to kind of realize and work through. And that's
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: why I've just said, it doesn't matter what the season holds,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: whether I win or I don't win, or I break
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: the record or I don't.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: This is just it, you know.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I need to kind of, you know, really enjoy it
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: and soak it all in for the last time time
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: and then I, you know, just literally.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Move forward, start something new.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: That's what you call the rocks.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Dwayne, what do I do?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Where is my call?
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I got this script sitting right here, Lindsey, come on over. Cool, Well,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: we got to wrap this up. I want to be
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: conscious of your time.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Thanks. I got one more work out today.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So do you what are you doing?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I gotta go home and ride the bike.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Do you the peloton?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Peloton?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Do you take my girl Robin Arzon's class. I don't
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: take any class you should.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to and I don't actually have to
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: follow my stupid program.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: But now I'm just I'm just hai. I'm just like Hawaii,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: like this is fun.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I've got right over there. You could use it if
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks, delightful to talk to you. I wish you well.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: When do you leave for Europe?
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: I we have a couple of races here in well
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: in Canada first, and then I'll go over like the
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: third or fourth of December.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And then you're there for how long?
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I'll come home for Christmas?
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Thankfully, we have a nice little break and then I'm
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: gone for like January, Febry March.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And then that's it. That's a wrap and.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Then it's done, so then it's a party time.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Cool Lindsay, it's a pleasure talking to you. How do
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: you feel?
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I feel great? How do you feel? I feel like
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: it was a therapy session and I don't need therapy.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: This is no thank you?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Good well.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I serve that role for you. I'm here anytime for you.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: You're easy to find on the internet everywhere. People are
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: not already following you. They should and come back and
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: talk to me again.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I will.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Sounds good, pleasure, Appreciate it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Peace,