Latest / The Uncensored Catholic / Show 161: Papal Infallibility Veneration of Relics and Independence Day
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- 0:51A, Hey, y'all, welcome to today's show. Did a long show
- 1:03yesterday, I had the last two of them fairly long, and today I
- 1:07just want to wrap up the topic that we've been discussing, which is the
- 1:11veneration of saints, and we're going to get into relics, which is really
- 1:15fascinating and well also, of course, as usual, start with a couple
- 1:22of questions and answers from radio replies, so let's start there. The person
- 1:27brings out the topic of papal infallibility and they say it is a remarkable claim,
- 1:37and the pre's answer it is, But then the Catholic Church is a
- 1:42very remarkable church. She was not founded by Martin Luther or Henry the Eighth
- 1:47or John Knox, but by Jesus Christ, who guaranteed her as his official
- 1:52representative in this world. Yet, although the Catholic Church is remarkable church,
- 1:57it is not really remarkable that Christ should have kept his promise to her.
- 2:00This is actually where we left off yesterday, but I wanted to reintroduce this
- 2:05question answer because the guy will carry on a little bit after that. He
- 2:09said, your church is composed of human beings like any other, and they
- 2:14said, no, not like any other. The Catholic Church is composed of
- 2:16human beings knit gathered by the authority of the Christ and rejoicing in his perpetual
- 2:22protection and assistance. The person replies, I find the Catholic assumption of infallibility
- 2:29appalling, and they reply, I should be appalled if a church claiming to
- 2:34be established by Christ and to speak with His authority did not claim to be
- 2:38infallible. A fine sort of guide to eternal destiny God would have given us
- 2:43if that guide calmly admitted she were not sure of the road herself, says,
- 2:50but do you deny this to be arrogant to say the least, and
- 2:53they said, I do. It would be an arrogant claim if she pretended
- 2:58to confer the prerogative upon one's upon herself. But Christ endowelled her with this
- 3:05gift, and she humbly admits to the fact that it is not of her
- 3:09own ability. A duly accredited judge is not arrogant, but one who orders
- 3:15you to the gallows without a vestige of authority for doing so is certainly arrogant.
- 3:20Persons says, with their infallible church, Catholics do not need God at
- 3:23all. And they answer they do. In order to live up to their
- 3:28religion. Catholics need God's grace and help individually all along the line. Their
- 3:34infallible Church teaches them with certainty what they must believe and do. But even
- 3:39this infallibility of the Church would be a farce without God. She is infallible
- 3:44because and only because of God, and only because God preserves her from error
- 3:49in her own teaching. Therefore, God therefore becomes more necessary than ever.
- 3:55Persus says, upon what grounds does your church claim? In fact, Christ
- 4:00establishes church and find a pound foundation as a solid rock, and declared that
- 4:04the gates of hell or the forces of evil would not prevail against it.
- 4:09This implies the perpetual retention of the truth caught by Christ forbidding its corruption.
- 4:14He commanded her to teach all nations all things whatsoever I have commanded you,
- 4:17And behold, I am with you all days, even unto the consummation of
- 4:23the world Matthew twenty eight twenty. His presence guarantees that she will ever teach
- 4:29a doctrine identical to his own principles. He promised that the Holy Spirit would
- 4:33abide with the Church forever undoubtedly a pledge of perpetual infallibility. John fourteen sixteen.
- 4:41Saint Paul clearly manifests this doctrine in his words, behave thyself in the
- 4:46House of God, which is the Church of the Living God, and the
- 4:48pillar and ground of the Truth one Timothy three point fifteen. The early Fathers
- 4:54insisted upon infallibility of the Church, and reason also tells us that the unity
- 5:00of the Church could not be maintained if she could fail in her teaching of
- 5:03the truth. Her very holiness forbids heresy. Her Catholicity demands expansion without loss
- 5:13of the self same teaching, whilst her apostyleis Apostolicity requires perpetual duration of an
- 5:21unchanged apostolic doctrine. Finally, at the Catholic Church be not infallible, then
- 5:26there is no church on earth which is such as Christ predicted. Person answers,
- 5:33it is all a matter of viewpoint. In my opinion, your viewpoint
- 5:36is utterly wrong, and the foundation of your church is worm eaten, worm
- 5:42eaten of the answer, worm eaten. As the foundations of the Church may
- 5:46seem to you, the fact remains that she keeps adding story after story to
- 5:48her skyscraper heights. The Arians told her that her foundations were worm eaten in
- 5:55the fourth century, the Greeks and the ninth, the Protestant Reformers of the
- 5:59sixth tenth, the Rationalists in the eighteenth, and a few still continue to
- 6:03do so, although mere rationalism is rapidly going out of date. At present,
- 6:08the modernists are the chief people to worry about the worm eaten foundations of
- 6:13the Catholic Church. The only one who is not worrying about them as the
- 6:15Church herself. She keeps just going on her way, never dying, but
- 6:18ever increasing, despite the fact that in every age outsiders have been busy composing
- 6:26her epitaph. All right, we will now move on to the veneration of
- 6:31relics of the saints. Now, this is another Catholic doctrine that Protestants just
- 6:38hate. They just hate it. They call it idol worship, never mind
- 6:43the fact that it's described in the Bible the bones of certain saintans being collected
- 6:49and put in a special place, tombs where people said prayers the bones.
- 6:55I guess it was. Was it Elijah where they opened his grave after he'd
- 7:00been buried. I think it's right, Okay, I'm going to have to
- 7:03double check that when I think we'll get actually get to that actual quote.
- 7:06But the dead man put in the same grave, and he came to life
- 7:12when he touched the bones of the great Saint. From the Old Testament what
- 7:15they call it handkerchiefs, cloths used by Saint Peter being taken to sick people,
- 7:23and they were healed when touching them. This is you can really back
- 7:27this up with the Bible. And if you want to give Protestants just fits,
- 7:30just send them into backflips, open your Bible and start talking about cloths
- 7:34that were touched by Saint Peter or the bones of a great prophet, et
- 7:38cetera. So now let's get into it. Father Spirago says, the name
- 7:44of relic is given to the remains of the saints, as well as to
- 7:47objects that have been closely connected with Christ or the Saints. The body of
- 7:51a saint is a relic, or any portion of it, even the most
- 7:55minute particle bone. These relics are placed beneath or pine altars. They also
- 8:01pass into possession of private persons. Those only are authentic to which the name
- 8:05of the saint and the episcopal seal is attached. The relics themselves must not
- 8:09be sold, but this prohibition does not apply to the case of containing them.
- 8:13To the case containing them, I should have said, from from time
- 8:18immemorial, those objects also which are closely connected with Our Lord or Saints have
- 8:24been held in high veneration. For instance, the Cross of Christ, his
- 8:28tunic, his winding sheet, is his bureau cloths, the manger wherein the
- 8:33infant Jesus was laid, Veronica's veiled to etc. The Holy Cross was discovered
- 8:39by the Empress Helena in the year three twenty five, and a portion of
- 8:43it is in the Church of the Holy Sepulture of Jerusalem. A part of
- 8:46the manger is in the Church of Santa Maria Maggiori. I think is how
- 8:50you pronounce it. In Rome, the seamless Coat of Our Lord is in
- 8:54the Cathedral of Treves Trevis. I don't speak to tight. In eighteen ninety
- 9:01one it was exposed for six weeks, and two thousand of the faithful came
- 9:05to adore it. During that period, eleven authentic cases of miraculous cures took
- 9:11place at Our Gentu at Our genttule A r G E N T e U
- 9:22i L near Paris. Another garment worn by our Lord and as a child
- 9:26is preserved. It was presented by Charlemagne to the church. The Holy Winding
- 9:31Sheet is in Turin, the Shroud of Touron. We know it is the
- 9:35Shroud of Turin, not the Holy Winding Sheet, but apparently that's what was
- 9:39called in the eighteen nineties. Veronicas Vale is in Saint Peter's at Rome.
- 9:43Several other important relics are preserved at the Church of I L Chapelle. The
- 9:50whole of the whole of Palestine is to the Christian a sacred and precious relic,
- 9:56and seven crusades were undertaken to recover it from the Saracens. Yeah,
- 10:01Christians used to fight to protect Jerusalem from Muslims. I really think a lot
- 10:09of our church leadership that's pro Palestinian, so called, is on the right
- 10:13side. I don't the Okay, that's seven the crusades undertaken recovered from the
- 10:22Saritons. Saracens prove how much it was valued in the Middle Ages. The
- 10:28principal holy places are the place of the Crew Crucifixion and the Sepulture on Mount
- 10:33Calvary. The scene of our Lord's agony, and the spot where he ascended
- 10:37on Mount on the Mount of Olives, Mount Alivet, the Cynical on Mount
- 10:43Zion, his birthplace at Bethlehem, and the Holy House of Nazareth. Now
- 10:46at Loretta, that's a fascinating story as well. Hopefully we'll get into that
- 10:50soon if I haven't covered it already. But angels carried the Home of Jesus
- 10:58from where it was to Loretto miraculously, which just amazing. I think if
- 11:03all Christians knew that, it'd be a lot more Catholics in this world.
- 11:07At all these places churches were erected, mostly by the Emperor Constantine or his
- 11:11mother Helena. The garments worn by martyrs and the instruments of their execution,
- 11:18the spot on which the spot on where emminent saints were born or buried have
- 11:22always been held in veneration. It was formerly the custom to erect churches and
- 11:28altars for the celebration of divine worship over places thus hallowed, especially where the
- 11:33saints are interred, where they're buried relics are deserving a veneration for this reason.
- 11:37Because the bodies of the saints were temples at the Holy ghost instruments whereby
- 11:43he worked, and they will rise glorious from the grave. The Jews regard
- 11:48a dead body as an unclean thing, but the Christians look upon it with
- 11:50respects having been the dwelling place of the holy ghost and as being the seed.
- 11:56Whence the immortal, glorified body was spring at the restur of Moreover,
- 12:01a Saint Jerome remark by honoring saints, we adore him for whom they died.
- 12:07God himself shows them honor, for by their medium he works miracles.
- 12:11Many bodies or portions of bodies of saints still remain incorrupt and supple, such
- 12:16as that of Saint Teresa or Saint Francis Xavier. In other words, their
- 12:22bodies don't rot. They're incorrupt. Some amit a delicious fragrance. They smell
- 12:26like roses. In other words, says Saint John christostem from others and oil
- 12:33distills possessed of healing properties. This is very interesting. Another thing most people
- 12:39don't know. God, says Saint John Christostom, has divided the possession of
- 12:43his saints between himself and us. He has taken their souls to heaven and
- 12:46left their bodies for us, we honor the relics of the saint by preserving
- 12:52them. We honor the relics of the saints by preserving them with reverence and
- 12:56visiting the spot where they are deposited. Even among the relics were regarded with
- 13:01reverence. At the exit from Egypt, Moses took Moses took Joseph's bones with
- 13:07him, Exodus thirteen nineteen. The early Christians also had a great respect for
- 13:11relics. When Saint Ignacious, Bishop of Antioch was torn to pieces by lions,
- 13:16two of his companions came by night and gathered up his bones, carrying
- 13:20them to Antioch. When Saint polycarch Bishop of Smyrna was burned alive, the
- 13:26Christians collected his ashes, valuing them more than jewels, And an early date
- 13:31it was customary to erect chapels or altars above the tombs of martyrs and offer
- 13:37the holy sacrifice over their remains. Of course, you know, one of
- 13:41the earliest churches with an altar erect over the bones of a saint is that
- 13:46of Saint Peter, and it was said for two thousand years that his bones
- 13:52were under the altar in s Peter's Basilica, and you know, a few
- 13:56decades ago when they were doing renovations, they found, Yeah, the Christians
- 14:01placed them there under the altar at Saint Peter's Basilica after he was crucified upside
- 14:07down, martyred as a martyr. Relics are usually enclosed in costly reliquaries,
- 14:13richly decorated gold boxes and crystal, and such as that. It is out
- 14:18of respect for the dead that we lay wreaths on their coffins and deck their
- 14:22graves with flowers. Relics of great values, such as portions of the True
- 14:26Cross or of the Manger at Bethlehem, are encased in gold or silver.
- 14:31Likewise, some of the bodies of the saints. From time immemorial, pilgrimages
- 14:35have been made to the sepulchers of the Saints. For nineteenth centuries, the
- 14:39faithfully have been wont to visit the tombs of the Apostles in Rome or the
- 14:43holy places in Palestine. Now that would be more than twenty one centuries.
- 14:48The early Christians flocked in such numbers of the Holy Land and places in Jerusalem
- 14:52were thronged with devout worshippers. Anyone who had not been thither would esteem himself
- 14:58a worse Christian than his neighbors. We visit the sepulchers of the Saints,
- 15:03says Saint John Christostin, and prostrate ourselves there in order to obtain some graces
- 15:09which we need. Of course, America is very far from most of those
- 15:13places in Europe and the Middle East, so we're not necessarily required to do
- 15:18that anymore. One can take a pilgrimage of a special devotion. You know,
- 15:24if you got the money to do it, and you have the intent
- 15:28to do it for the right reason, go for it, you know.
- 15:31As a priest told me one time when I had lost my job and gotten
- 15:37deep into debt, and I said, you know, I was in confession.
- 15:39I said, you know, I haven't been putting money in the plate
- 15:41lately. I couldn't afford it. And he said, well, what's going
- 15:46on? I told him, and he said, he said, the money
- 15:50you have, you one have to pay for your housing and you have to
- 15:54put food on the table, and then you're in debt. It's owed to
- 15:58other people. You can't take that money and put it in the plate.
- 16:02It would actually be stealing money from them. That's rightfully. Theirs and the
- 16:07Church doesn't want that money that way, when you have excess, when you
- 16:11have abundance, then tithe don't do as you know, the protests say,
- 16:15tie out of your need unless you know God actually, you know, puts
- 16:19that intention on your heart. You know, if he does, then we
- 16:22go for it. But likewise, you should not feel like you're a bad
- 16:27Catholic because you can't afford to go to Israel or take a pilgrimage to Rome
- 16:32or something like that. Okay, a lot of people are a little stride
- 16:37it with such language, and you know, there are a lot of Catholics
- 16:44that cannot afford to go on expensive trips. That's just the truth, and
- 16:49it doesn't make you a bad Catholic, so don't think it does. We
- 16:53may obtain many blessings from God by veneration, by venerating relics. Relics are
- 16:59a source when spiritual benefits come to us from God. Saint John Demassing says,
- 17:04as water gush from the rock in the wilderness at God's command, so
- 17:10by his will, blessings flow from the relics of the saints. Where the
- 17:14remains of saints or martyrs are interred, the snares of the devil will lose
- 17:18their potency and obstinate maladies are healed. Saint Augustine relates numerous cures affected by
- 17:25the relics of Saint Stephen in Africa. Beside the raising from the dead of
- 17:30two children. In the Old Testament, we read of the dead man returning
- 17:33to life on coming into contact with the bones of the prophet Elysius. As
- 17:38he said in his old way of writing, that's Kings, four chapter book.
- 17:47Let me see four Kings, chapter thirteen, verse twenty one. I
- 17:52believe even in the life, even in their lifetime, the bodies of the
- 17:56saints were instrumental in working miracles. The shadow of Saint Peter in Acts five
- 18:00point fifteen, and by the handkerchiefs or girdles worn by Saint Paul. Okay
- 18:04I did get that, Roy. It wasn't Saint Peter's handkerchief, It was
- 18:07his shadow, and it was Saint Paul's handkerchief or girdle as he put it.
- 18:12All that means is the band that went around his waist. It's not
- 18:15like we would think of as a girdle. By the way, just in
- 18:18case you're wondering, Saint Paul I don't think was too concerned about his appearance.
- 18:23But anyway, that's Acts nineteen twelve. The sick were delivered from their
- 18:29infirmities. But it must be remembered it is not by the relics themselves that
- 18:33these miracles are wrought, but by God. Hence, it is not a
- 18:37superstitious act on the part of a pious person when they visit places of pilgrimage
- 18:41where God is pleased to work wonders by means of relics or images of the
- 18:47saints. So y'all, I'm gonna wrap it up here. Tomorrow's fourth of
- 18:52July. Go have a good time, spend time with friends and family.
- 18:56Grew up some hamburgers and hot dogs, Have a couple of old beers on
- 19:00a hot day if that's what you enjoy, or you know, chilled wine
- 19:04or even a soft drink if you you know, I actually happened to think
- 19:08wine and beer are much better for you than sweet sodas and all that.
- 19:12But that's up to you, you know. And of course, if you
- 19:15have a problem with alcohol, avoid alcohol. But all I'm saying is it's
- 19:19a good day to celebrate the freedoms God's given us. Don't forget. I
- 19:26mean, my ancestor is Charles Carroll, the only Catholic signer of the Decoration
- 19:29of Independence. I did a whole special in him last year. If you
- 19:32want to pull that up tomorrow and play it for your kids and teach him
- 19:36about this great Catholic who literally funded the American Revolution. Without Charles Carroll,
- 19:41we have no America. We have no America. He funded the Continental Army,
- 19:48and he sacrifices his family and everything. I mean, the British really,
- 19:53I mean went after him hard because not only was he a rebel against
- 19:59the British Empire as an American, but he was an Irish Catholic and very
- 20:03very, very very wealthy. Of course, I believe was a nephew of
- 20:11his that went on to be a senator from Maryland, and another one that
- 20:15founded Georgetown University. So I mean was that the same one, it was
- 20:22a different one that was the first Catholic Bishop of the United States. I
- 20:25mean, I'll have to refresh my own own memory tomorrow, but Charles Carroll
- 20:32is probably in his family the most influential Catholics in the United States. And
- 20:38without those Catholics, trust me, there be no United States. In America.
- 20:44He was the only one of the signers that wasn't a Freemason. I
- 20:47mean, they were anti Catholic, but they had to They had to agree
- 20:52to religious freedom, they had to agree to the ability to practice Catholicism in
- 20:56America to have the money to fund the war. And another interesting fact of
- 21:03independence is that George Washington renounced Freemasonry and converted to Catholicism on his deathbed.
- 21:12So you can really honestly say that, in at least two ways, America
- 21:17was founded by Catholics. Now founded to be a pluralistic nation, founded mostly
- 21:23by Freemasons who wanted to destroy Catholicism, But two of the leading lights of
- 21:29American independence and two of the most influential people in all of American history were
- 21:34Catholic. And we got no America without these Catholics. So check them out
- 21:38tomorrow. I hope, I know you enjoy it, and don't forget.
- 21:44Let me just give you one tip. Okay, this has nothing to do
- 21:45with anything we talked about today. July is when you know everybody thinks about
- 21:52sweet corn. Corn of the cop One of my favorite things is a great
- 21:56gift from God, and I think people ruin it more often than they eat
- 22:02it as intended. Never ever, ever shock your corn and then boil it
- 22:07in water. That destroys the flavor of the corn. Get the freshest corn
- 22:11you can. Okay, leave the shucks on, leave the silks in place.
- 22:18Either grill it over high heat, roast it in a hot oven,
- 22:21or pop it in the microwave at about four minutes an ear. Take it
- 22:26out, let it cool a little bit, pull the shucks back, take
- 22:27the silks off. Butter and salt. You're good to go. Now.
- 22:30You can put some spices on there. You can do a little that,
- 22:33cookio, cheese, do whatever you like. Do not boil your corn.
- 22:37Now, if you live in an area where you get a lot of the
- 22:41corn worms, you might want to pull the shucks back and remove them before
- 22:45cooking. Just cut that piece off. I'd still leave them on as much
- 22:48as I can, And actually I usually just cut that piece off after it's
- 22:52cooked. I mean that worm is kind of relegated to one little spot on
- 22:57that corn. It doesn't bother anything. But do not boil your corn.
- 23:02Please, don't boil your corn and enjoy. I mean, what a gift
- 23:06from God is corn? Imagine millions of years ago, just thousands of years
- 23:11ago, just thousands of years ago, it was nothing but a grass.
- 23:15Somehow God enlightened the Mayans to cultivate it into a grain that we could eat,
- 23:22from a grass to full ears of corn. Then the Europeans cultivated it
- 23:29from what you call dent corn, corn that you make corn meal out of
- 23:33or use for animal feed, into sweet corn. This is truly through the
- 23:37grace of God and the inspired work of thousands of generations of human beings that
- 23:47we have this miracle. And I think it's truly a miracle that is sweet
- 23:51corn. So do show it the respect that it I think God intended,
- 24:00because I don't think he could have made anything anything more delicious than sweetcorn.
- 24:06Fresh. And remember, it begins losing its flavor the moment it's picked.
- 24:11The sugars begins turning to starch. So the fresher you can get it,
- 24:15and the faster you can eat it. I know there are people that will
- 24:18literally pick it and roast it right in the field, but do not boil
- 24:22it. Okay that you lose flavor, you lose nutrition. You turn this
- 24:29just incredible wonderful thing into you know, just something okay, And if you
- 24:34haven't had it cooked hot and in the shucks and then just serve with butter
- 24:41and salt or maybe little creole season or whatever you like on there, you
- 24:44do not know what you're missing. And you may scoff at what I'm saying,
- 24:47but let me tell you a little celery salt will also enhance that flavor.
- 24:52There are compounds in celery that are actually like MSG, so they enhance
- 24:56flavor. And shardon an oki shardenay, a glass of white wine will actually
- 25:03bring out more flavor from corn and asparagus, those those two vegetables than they
- 25:08have with any other beverage. So if if you listen to this you like
- 25:12chardonnay, you haven't tried just popping an ear of corn in the microwave for
- 25:17four minutes, pull it out, shuck it, butter and salt it,
- 25:19and have it with your glass of wine. You do not know what you're
- 25:22missing. I am telling you you do not know what you're missing. And
- 25:26if you can't eat corn in the cob, a lot of people can't,
- 25:29you know, due to dental issues or whatever. Cut it off the cop.
- 25:33Take your knife, cut straight down, Well, don't actually cut straight
- 25:37down. Put your knife in an angle. Go in an angle and slice
- 25:40the corn off. Don't push it off with your knife. Slice it off,
- 25:44but remember scrape the cob with your knife and get all everything out of
- 25:48there. Then, you know, put in a bowl. I mean I'm
- 25:52talking cook corn. You know you cook the cornerly I said it, sliced
- 25:55off the cob. Put in a bowl with butter and salt and joy.
- 25:57Put a little cheese on there, whatever you like. Cook it with some
- 26:03milk or cream and a little sugar and salt, and make cream corn.
- 26:07As long as you cook it right the first time, not boiling it,
- 26:11you're gonna be amazed. You can do corn casseroles. You can do one
- 26:15of my favorite things, fresh corn to Molly's. They call them green corn
- 26:18to Molly's. They are phenomenally could. You're gonna fall in love with corn.
- 26:25So this is the time to do it. Go go get yourself some
- 26:26corn now. The words of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope and don't
- 26:32worry, and I will talk to you next time. Happy fourth of July,
- 26:34y'all, Happy Independence Day. Remember when someone says happy fourth of July,
- 26:38I always say Happy Independence Day because that's what we're actually celebrating, not
- 26:45just a day of the month. So Happy Independence Day.