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Speaker 1: Line from the skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 4: I showed you how Labour's anti nuclear nonsense was blown
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Speaker 4: up by that US report earlier this week. Now their
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Speaker 4: green hydrogen fantasy has exploded in their face. Also tonight,
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Speaker 4: the lies and propaganda about the Middle East continue as
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Speaker 4: the world awaits Israel's retaliation against Iran, and debate continues
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Speaker 4: over October the seventh protests here in Australia. I'll be
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Speaker 4: joined by the former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss, also
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Speaker 4: former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer and terrorism and foreign affairs
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Speaker 4: expert Peter Jennings. Also Tim Blair and Martin Nicholson. Of
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Speaker 4: course i'll talk about Stephen Miles's Queensland campaign gaff and
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Speaker 4: the incredible shrinking ALBANIZI.
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Speaker 3: Let's get started.
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Speaker 4: Almost a year ago when one hundreds of Hummus terrorists
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Speaker 4: left Palestinian controlled Gaza at the crack of dawn. They
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Speaker 4: left an area not occupied by Israel, An area where
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Speaker 4: the local Ghazan people had been in control for nearly
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Speaker 4: two decades. And when they invaded Israel, that's what they
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Speaker 4: were doing, crossing a border and invading Israel. They were
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Speaker 4: intent on committing the most barbaric atrocities imaginable.
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Speaker 3: That was their aim.
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Speaker 4: To murder, torture and rape women, to slaughter men, women
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Speaker 4: and children, to defile their bodies, take bodies back to
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Speaker 4: Gaza as trophies, and take hundreds of hostages too. Why
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Speaker 4: apart from exercising a visceral hatred and anti Jewish hatred
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Speaker 4: that's the core of this Islamist extremism. Apart from that,
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Speaker 4: what did they want to achieve? Not the bloodthirsty terrorists themselves, perhaps,
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Speaker 4: but their leaders and their puppet masters in Iran. What
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Speaker 4: was the aim of those October seventh atrocities. This is
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Speaker 4: the question that's too often overlooked, And I've got to
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Speaker 4: say I don't talk about it often enough because I presume,
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Speaker 4: perhaps wrongly, that most people understand this. But maybe they
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Speaker 4: don't because there's so much propaganda around. There's so much
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Speaker 4: false reporting and ignorant debate on these issues.
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Speaker 3: Too many in the media.
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Speaker 4: And in politics try to pretend that these terrorist attacks
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Speaker 4: and the firing of missiles into Israel by Hamas and Hezbalah,
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Speaker 4: they pretend all this is about setting up a Palestinian
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Speaker 4: state hitting back at Israel and delivering a two state solution.
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Speaker 4: That's certainly the theme of protests right around the world.
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Speaker 5: Palestine from the river to the sea, Palestine will be pray, Ray,
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Speaker 5: Ray Palestine.
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Speaker 4: But that's clearly not the real agenda. That's just the
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Speaker 4: lie that the terror groups spread. That's their propaganda. But
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Speaker 4: it's the last thing they want. If the Palestinian leadership
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Speaker 4: wanted a two state solution, they would have grabbed it
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Speaker 4: at Camp David twenty four years ago. Everything we know
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Speaker 4: about Humas Hezbalah and their Iranian backers tells us this
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Speaker 4: is not what they want. They all want to eliminate
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Speaker 4: Israel altogether. It's in their charters, it's in their retoric
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Speaker 4: and their actions, and it's confirmed repeatedly by their leaders.
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Speaker 4: They will never accept any two state solution. They are
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent committed, religiously committed, fanatically committed to clearing
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Speaker 4: Jewish people out of the Middle East, pushing them out
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Speaker 4: from the river to the sea.
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Speaker 3: So that brings me back to the terror attacks.
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Speaker 4: Other than hatred, why do they visit this evil upon
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Speaker 4: innocent strangers?
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Speaker 6: Plebetia danction of stains of the Universe of infra customble
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Speaker 6: team that to come most of the machine. That's what
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Speaker 6: I've become curly the year Waka, it.
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Speaker 4: Was well, they did it to terrorize Israel, of course,
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Speaker 4: and they did it to spark war with Israel, to
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Speaker 4: force a war in Gaza, ensuring there'd be no peace
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Speaker 4: and ensuring that Palestinians too would be killed, so they
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Speaker 4: could use the deaths of their own people as propaganda
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Speaker 4: against Israel.
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Speaker 3: That's why they hide among civilians.
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Speaker 4: That's why they fire rockets from schools and hospitals. That's
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Speaker 4: what they tell lies about how many people are killed
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Speaker 4: and by whom. Remember the media early on ran claims
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Speaker 4: and Israeli missile hit a hospital and killed five hundred
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Speaker 4: people in Gaza, only it turned out to be an
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Speaker 4: Islamic jihad rocket that killed twenty or thirty of their
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Speaker 4: own Palestinian people.
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Speaker 3: Criticism of Israel is all they want.
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Speaker 4: Demonization of Israel is what they crave, and they don't
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Speaker 4: care how many Jews or how many Palestinians have to
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Speaker 4: die to make that happen. So when you see ugly
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Speaker 4: protests on our streets against Israel and the flag of
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Speaker 4: Hesbalah flying on Australian streets and our politicians putting pressure
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Speaker 4: on Israel and showing we against the terrorist organizations. That
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Speaker 4: is exactly what the terrorists want to see. They want
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Speaker 4: Israel to be under pressure, They want world opinion turned
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Speaker 4: against Israel and their willing accomplices. Far too often Western
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Speaker 4: politicians and media who buy the spin, believe the lies
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Speaker 4: and pretend the bloodthirsty terrorist atrocities are actually carried out
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Speaker 4: by freedom fighters trying to win some two state solution.
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Speaker 4: So far, almost a year on from October the seventh,
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Speaker 4: you'd have to say that Hamas, Hezbollah and.
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Speaker 3: Iran would be well pleased.
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Speaker 4: Their repugnant and murderous tactics have terrorized Israel. They've created
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Speaker 4: a living hell in Gaza. They've cost thousands of lives,
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Speaker 4: and they've put political and diplomatic heat on Israel. Many
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Speaker 4: people blaming the victim, blaming Israel for the carnage that
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Speaker 4: Hamas and Hezbollah have deliberately triggered. It's all made a
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Speaker 4: lasting piece much less likely. The terrorists have been so
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Speaker 4: successful that a year on, our own country even is
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Speaker 4: divided over this conflict. These Islamist extremist terrorists have slaughtered
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Speaker 4: innocent Israelis and subjected innocent Palestinians to the hell of war,
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Speaker 4: all in order to manipulate world opinion against Israel, and sickeningly,
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Speaker 4: they've succeeded. Ignorance is their greatest weapon. People need to
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Speaker 4: understand what is going on. There will be no peace
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Speaker 4: in the Middle East until the Palestinian people have a
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Speaker 4: leadership that wants it. Let me share an example of
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Speaker 4: the media lacking the strategic understanding or the moral backbone
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Speaker 4: to properly cover these events.
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Speaker 3: The leftist media is worse.
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Speaker 4: It's increasingly anti Israel, which seems to be an extension
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Speaker 4: of their anti American disposition.
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Speaker 3: Just have a look at this from the ABC.
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Speaker 7: I think it's unrealistic to expect that Israel wouldn't retaliate
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Speaker 7: to this Iranian missile assault, just like it would have
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Speaker 7: been unrealistic to expect that Iran wouldn't launch an attack
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Speaker 7: on Israel after the Israeli killings of the Hamas and
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Speaker 7: Hezbala leaders.
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Speaker 4: Talk about false equivalents. They accept Israel's need to retaliate
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Speaker 4: against nearly two hundred missiles fired by Iran at is
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Speaker 4: Israeli cities and towns full of civilians, But they equate
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Speaker 4: that with some apparent right for Iran to have fired
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Speaker 4: those missiles because Israel launched decision targeted attacks against the
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Speaker 4: Islamist terrorist organizations of Hummas and Hesbalah in Lebanon.
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Speaker 3: This is just bizarre.
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Speaker 4: This is the ABC devoid of a moral compass or
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Speaker 4: of rational values. No difference at the ABC between a
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Speaker 4: liberal democracy defending itself from unprovoked attacks and the aggressive,
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Speaker 4: murderous actions of an Islamist theocracy, a rogue state that
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Speaker 4: funds terrorism indiscriminately firing on another nation. What a disgrace
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Speaker 4: the national broadcaster has become. Still, there's no leadership from
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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister. Anthony Albernizi shows no strategic clarity and
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Speaker 4: no concept of the values at stake. Either that or
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Speaker 4: he just ignores all that because he's more worried about
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Speaker 4: Muslim votes in certain electorates.
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Speaker 3: His Foreign minister is just as weak.
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Speaker 8: The strikes Byron are a dangerous escalation and we condemn
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Speaker 8: them fully. It is rightly condemned by all who seek
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Speaker 8: a de escalation and a ceasefire. Under international law, Israel
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Speaker 8: has a right to defend itself against these attacks, and
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Speaker 8: as you know, Australia always urges adherence to international law.
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Speaker 3: It's just blather.
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Speaker 4: She's just reading departmental talking points. Israel has a right
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Speaker 4: to defend itself, she says. But every time Israel hits
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Speaker 4: back at terror groups, Labor calls for a ceasefire. The
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Speaker 4: opposition leader gets it.
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Speaker 9: I want to see a two state solution at the
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Speaker 9: right time. But what we're seeing now through the proxies
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Speaker 9: of Iran is an attack on innocent people. Harmas couldn't
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Speaker 9: care less Hesbala, I couldn't care less for peopletine in
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Speaker 9: the Palestinian territories, on the Gaza Strip anywhere. That's why
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Speaker 9: they put their headquarters under residential buildings and under hospitals.
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Speaker 9: That's why they protect themselves with human shields, and that's
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Speaker 9: why they're a terrorist organization. They don't represent civilization as
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Speaker 9: we know it and as we cherish and as we
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Speaker 9: fought for Australians. I think of generations past would be
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Speaker 9: rolling in their graves seeing what the Prime ministry is
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Speaker 9: presiding over at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is clear cut.
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Speaker 4: Middle East politics is as complex as you want to
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Speaker 4: make it, but in the end you have to choose
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Speaker 4: right from wrong. Israel deserves every support in taking out
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Speaker 4: the terror groups attacking it. It has to defend its
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Speaker 4: citizens and the only route to peace is for the
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Speaker 4: aggressors to stop their attacks, surrender their weapons and hand
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Speaker 4: back the one hundred and one hostages still unaccounted for.
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Speaker 4: You cannot negotiate a settlement with Hummas or Hezbalah. As
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Speaker 4: long as those terror groups are intact, the conflict will
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Speaker 4: never end. Let me welcome to the desk now the
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Speaker 4: former UK Prime Minister Liz Trust.
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Speaker 3: Great to see you, Liz, Thanks for having me here. Chris,
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Speaker 3: I've got to talk to.
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Speaker 4: You about the Israel situation. I've got to say world leaders,
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Speaker 4: our own Prime Minister Joe Biden, I think many have
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Speaker 4: been weak, but the UK Prime Minister Keys Stamer surely
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Speaker 4: has been quite pathetic in his support for Israel.
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Speaker 10: Well, he's been hopeless, absolutely hopeless.
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Speaker 11: What has happened in.
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Speaker 10: Britain has been a partial arms embargo put on Israel
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Speaker 10: just when they need the weaponry to deal with these
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Speaker 10: appalling terrorist attacks. And it's the same issue as here
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Speaker 10: in Australia. They are seeking to appease people on the
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Speaker 10: left of politics Islamists, instead of doing what is right,
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Speaker 10: and it's not just right for Israel, it's right for
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Speaker 10: the whole of Western civilization, because if we allow Israel
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Speaker 10: to fall, that is completely disastrous for the future of
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Speaker 10: the United Kingdom, the United States, Australia. So hell of
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Speaker 10: a lot is at stake here, and we are completely
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Speaker 10: letting Israel down. And Joe Biden has been absolutely appalling
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Speaker 10: in the appeasement of Iran. The only reason these terrorists
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Speaker 10: have the wherewithal to carry out the appalling attacks on
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Speaker 10: October the seventh was because he took the sanctions off
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Speaker 10: Iran in return for absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 11: He's allowed Iran.
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Speaker 10: To almost get to the point of getting nuclear weapons,
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Speaker 10: and yet he's telling Israel what to do. He's saying,
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Speaker 10: you can't do this, you can do this, you can't
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Speaker 10: do this, instead of dealing with the aggressor, which is Iran.
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Speaker 3: It's so extraordinary.
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Speaker 4: For the whole of the past year, the pressure should
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Speaker 4: have been on Iran, but instead it's been on Israel.
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Speaker 3: Just to highlight your point, I.
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Speaker 4: Want to show you a little clip of what keioth
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Speaker 4: Stamer said just last week.
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Speaker 12: We need to see an immediate ceasefire space for a
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Speaker 12: diplomatic settlement and we are working with all partners to
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Speaker 12: that end because further escalation serves no one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there he was. And now look, Joe Biden, the UN.
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Speaker 4: Other countries, European Nations and Anthony Alberanezi were calling for
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Speaker 4: that same ceasefire. If that ceasefire had been adopted last week,
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Speaker 4: Hessan Nasrala would still be alive and leading a terrorist
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Speaker 4: war against Israel. Not to mention countless Hezbelaar rocket installations
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Speaker 4: would still be in place in southern Lebanon.
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Speaker 10: That is absolutely right. And it's Israel that is showing leadership.
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Speaker 10: They're actually dealing with the terror threat and they're being
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Speaker 10: held back by their so called allies in the West.
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Speaker 10: And the problem is that we have leftist governments now
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Speaker 10: in the UK, in the US, in Australia, also in Canada,
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Speaker 10: and they are determined to to try and strike some
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Speaker 10: kind of moral equivalents.
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Speaker 11: How can you strike moral equivalents.
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Speaker 10: Between an appalling autocratic regime which is sponsoring terrorists and
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Speaker 10: a free democracy. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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Speaker 4: What could the international community do to increase the pressure
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Speaker 4: on Iran to effectively call off its terrorist proxies.
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Speaker 11: Well, First of all, we should put the sanctions back on.
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Speaker 10: I mean, it's absolutely appalling those were taken off. We
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Speaker 10: should give Israel full freedom of maneuver. We should supply
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Speaker 10: them with all the weaponry they need to take on
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Speaker 10: the terrorists.
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Speaker 11: Those are the first things we should be doing.
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Speaker 10: But if Irang is successful in securing nuclear weapons, that
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Speaker 10: is an absolute strategic disaster.
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Speaker 11: And the reason we're.
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Speaker 10: Here is because of the appeasement policy, particularly pursued by
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Speaker 10: the Biden administration. Yes, the haven't been good enough, Yes
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Speaker 10: Australia has not been good enough, but it's ultimately the
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Speaker 10: Biden administration that hold the key, and they have been
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Speaker 10: an absolute disaster. And Heaven help us if President Trump
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Speaker 10: does not win in November, Heaven help us.
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Speaker 3: We await to Israel's response against Iran.
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Speaker 4: When you talk about their progress towards nuclear weapons, this
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Speaker 4: would be a likely target. Would that Israel might be
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Speaker 4: able to try and strike facilities that are important in
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Speaker 4: Iran's nuclear capability.
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Speaker 10: Yes, that's absolutely right, and it's vital that Iran has
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Speaker 10: stopped from getting nuclear weapons. And that was the point
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Speaker 10: of those extra tough sanctions was to stop that happening.
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Speaker 11: And now they are very very close.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's great to have you in Australia. Got a
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Speaker 4: couple of other questions are going to run by you
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Speaker 4: first year you're here for a seapet conference, a conservative conference.
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Speaker 4: Amach in the American style of conservative conference here in Australia,
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Speaker 4: But want to look at the kind of a new
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Speaker 4: innovation in Australia, as I say, is sort of copying
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Speaker 4: an American model. Does this give us a hint that
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Speaker 4: perhaps the Conservative parties in the UK and in Australia
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Speaker 4: and doing enough of this sort of thing themselves, having
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Speaker 4: good policy forums and conferences.
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Speaker 11: Well, let's be honest, we haven't been winning the argument.
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Speaker 10: I've just been talking about how we've got left wing
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Speaker 10: governments across most of the West and if you look
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Speaker 10: at everything from climate change extremism, to the human rights culture,
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Speaker 10: to the huge levels of migration.
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Speaker 11: That are taking place.
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Speaker 10: We have a massive problem in Britain with small boats
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Speaker 10: across the Channel.
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Speaker 11: If you look at the wokery and.
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Speaker 10: The shame that people on the left try and inculcate
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Speaker 10: about our country, our history, our culture. If you look
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Speaker 10: at all those things, the establishment has been moving to
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Speaker 10: the left. You know whether that is media, organizations, corporations,
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Speaker 10: the bureaucracyverse.
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Speaker 11: We need universities. Well they were the start, were exilty.
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Speaker 10: We need to be much more forceful in pushing back.
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Speaker 10: Too many so called conservatives have gone along with this
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Speaker 10: stuff happening.
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Speaker 11: To stay in power or to.
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Speaker 10: Appease their friends at trendy dinner parties.
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Speaker 11: They've gone along with this stuff.
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Speaker 10: And what is important about SEAPAC is this is the
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Speaker 10: fight back and we need this fight back because we
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Speaker 10: need to get conservative governments back in power.
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Speaker 3: Well that'll be happening over the weekend in Brisbane, so
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Speaker 3: we're looking.
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Speaker 4: Forward to that. I've got well, I've got you here.
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Speaker 4: I've got to ask about your slice of history. Of course,
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Speaker 4: you are a short term prime minister, the shortest serving
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Speaker 4: prime minister in the UK has ever seen. But what
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Speaker 4: a fascinating and traumatic slice of history for you to
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Speaker 4: be sworn in as prime minister and two days later
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Speaker 4: quent Elizabeth the IDEs.
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Speaker 3: Can you just share with Australian.
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Speaker 4: Viewers that the huge weight of history that must have
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Speaker 4: been on your shoulders at that time.
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Speaker 10: I mean, it was astonishing in the first place for
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Speaker 10: me to have been in the position to run to
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Speaker 10: be Prime minister. None of us expected Boris Johnson to
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Speaker 10: be essentially forced out of office, and he was forced
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Speaker 10: out of office by Conservative MPs. None of us were
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Speaker 10: expecting that, and I knew it was a bad sign.
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Speaker 11: And I was invited to bal Moral.
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Speaker 10: To be asked to be Prime Minister by Her Majesty
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Speaker 10: rather than bucking in Palace because she was too frail
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Speaker 10: to travel. And when I got there, you know, she
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Speaker 10: was on very fine form in terms of you know,
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Speaker 10: she's very lucid. She was giving me some great advice.
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Speaker 10: She said, pace yourself with one of the piece of
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Speaker 10: advice she gave me. But I could just see that
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Speaker 10: physically she was, you know, struggling to stand up. You know,
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Speaker 10: it was a real effort and she just wanted to
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Speaker 10: do her duty. And at the end of our meeting
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Speaker 10: she said, I'll see you again next week, as if
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Speaker 10: it was just a routine meeting.
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Speaker 11: So imagine my.
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Speaker 10: Increasing horror as over the next twenty four hours it
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Speaker 10: was clear things things were getting worse, and it was
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Speaker 10: it was a huge honor to be the last Prime
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Speaker 10: minister appointed by Her Majesty. Of course the first was
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Speaker 10: Winston Churchill, but it was it was such a shock
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Speaker 10: two days two.
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Speaker 11: Days into the job.
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Speaker 3: Incredible.
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Speaker 11: I had to take that on absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us on trust early.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate Liz trust there the former UK Prime Minister. And
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Speaker 4: just a reminder, full coverage of the SEAPAC conference is
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Speaker 4: going to be on sky News dot com dot au
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Speaker 4: over the weekend and the Outsiders team are actually broadcasting
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Speaker 4: live from Seabeck on Sunday morning. Now I want to
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Speaker 4: get back to matters in the Middle East and sticking
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Speaker 4: with that, here's the latest actually from sky News UK.
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Speaker 1: There was more heavy fighting in southern Lebanon today. The
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Speaker 1: Israeli military released this video of their forces operating in
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Speaker 1: villages near the border trying to push hes Bullard back
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Speaker 1: Outgoing Israeli artillery pounded Hesbelaar positions and Lebanese villages on
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Speaker 1: the other side of the hills. Hezbla fired back into
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Speaker 1: israel Sirens in nearby towns sounded throughout the day. Eight
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Speaker 1: Israeli soldiers have already been killed in the Lebanon invasion,
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Speaker 1: according to the IDF. The funeral for one was held
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Speaker 1: today in the Iranian parliament. Today, politicians chanted death to America.
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Speaker 1: The Iranian regime has said that its attack has ended
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Speaker 1: for now and warned Israel not to retaliate.
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Speaker 4: Let's bring in Peter Jennings from Strategic Analysis Australia, joining
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Speaker 4: US live from canber Good to talk to you again, Peter.
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Speaker 3: The whole world is a.
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Speaker 4: Wedding Israel's response retaliation against Iran.
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Speaker 3: Our Western political leaders.
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Speaker 4: Starting to wake up, starting to realize Iran as the
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Speaker 4: problem and they should be putting pressure back on Iran.
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Speaker 4: They seem to have ignored this for most of the
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Speaker 4: last year.
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Speaker 13: When Iran comes into the picture, the West does tend
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Speaker 13: to take it more seriously. We saw that a couple
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Speaker 13: of months ago after the first Iranian missile strike into Israel,
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Speaker 13: and we had a significant American military presence in the
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Speaker 13: Eastern Mediterranean, including shooting down some of those missiles. So
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Speaker 13: Iran tends to make a lot of Western countries more serious, Chris.
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Speaker 13: But you know, broadly, I agree with what you've been
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Speaker 13: saying that the West has I think abandoned Israel. In Australia,
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Speaker 13: we're following a fantasy foreign policy which feels more like
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Speaker 13: it's being generated by some sort of second tier university
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Speaker 13: student representative Council rather than by a foreign minister, because
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Speaker 13: all we seem to do is talk about the theory
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Speaker 13: of a diplomatic solution when it's war that's happening on
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Speaker 13: the ground, and a very justified war in this case,
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Speaker 13: because Israel simply has to retake military advantage if it
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Speaker 13: wants to be able to move its people back into
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Speaker 13: the northern third of Israel away from those Hesbela missile strikes.
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Speaker 13: So I think we're going to see conflict for some
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Speaker 13: considerable months to come, whether the West likes it or not,
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Speaker 13: whether the suits labor governments in the Western countries, because
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Speaker 13: Israel knows that it has to take look after its
23:27
Speaker 13: own security, and so that's the course it's going to follow.
23:31
Speaker 13: Whether defat in Canberra and Penny one, I'm prepared to
23:34
Speaker 13: acknowledge that reality or not.
23:36
Speaker 3: It seems to me.
23:37
Speaker 4: That Israeli action is actually leading global foreign policy. For instance,
23:43
Speaker 4: as I mentioned, you had world leaders including Australia calling
23:47
Speaker 4: for a cease fire, and then a couple of days later,
23:50
Speaker 4: Israel manages to take out Hassan Israla, and then you
23:53
Speaker 4: have the US and everybody else welcoming the fact that
23:58
Speaker 4: Israel has been able to take out the leader, something
24:01
Speaker 4: that wouldn't have happened. They've they'd taken the ceasefire advice
24:05
Speaker 4: the international community was calling for and looking forward, see
24:10
Speaker 4: if we contemplate what Israel might do to Iran, if
24:14
Speaker 4: they significantly disable Iran's nuclear capacities or nuclear program, that too,
24:19
Speaker 4: would suddenly then be welcomed by all these countries who
24:23
Speaker 4: are calling it to desist.
24:24
Speaker 14: Now.
24:27
Speaker 13: Yes, if the reports are correct that Iran is a
24:29
Speaker 13: couple of months away from acquiring a nuclear weapon, we're
24:33
Speaker 13: all going to need Israel much more than we think
24:36
Speaker 13: we do right now, because Israel has the intelligence picture
24:39
Speaker 13: on Iran and the military capability to deter Iran from
24:44
Speaker 13: nuclear adventurism in the Middle East in a way that
24:47
Speaker 13: no other country can, including the United States. So Israel
24:52
Speaker 13: is frankly looking after the interests of the established democracies,
24:58
Speaker 13: even at the same time as the political rhetoric it
25:00
Speaker 13: runs against the net and Yahu government, and it's a
25:04
Speaker 13: shame our own government. So IGN's a little bit more
25:06
Speaker 13: intellectually courageous to understand the strategic picture and to provide
25:10
Speaker 13: the support where it's really genuinely deserved.
25:13
Speaker 3: Chris exactly well, said Peter. Thanks very much for joining
25:16
Speaker 3: us again.
25:17
Speaker 4: Peter Jennings there from Strategic Analysis Australia. We've got to
25:20
Speaker 4: get to a break. On the other side, I'm going
25:21
Speaker 4: to catch up with Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson as
25:24
Speaker 4: ever on a Thursday. We're going to talk about the
25:25
Speaker 4: AFP investigating nine complaints now about displays of terrorist symbols.
25:30
Speaker 4: Plus the Brits get a better deal on Tim Tams
25:34
Speaker 4: than the Aussies.
25:39
Speaker 3: Let's go to our panel now.
25:40
Speaker 4: Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph joins us from the
25:42
Speaker 4: Wimmera and Mark Nicholson from step Mate Studios Alive from Melbourne.
25:46
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, gents. I'm going to talk about.
25:48
Speaker 4: All this argie bargie when it comes to pro Palestinian
25:51
Speaker 4: anti Israel protests that were planned as sickeningly for Monday October,
25:57
Speaker 4: the seventh, one year anniversary of the atrocities. Tim, there's
26:01
Speaker 4: been a change of heart in Sydney, at least where
26:04
Speaker 4: they had to get there was a court hearing into this.
26:06
Speaker 3: They said that they're not.
26:08
Speaker 4: Going to have an official protest on the seventh now,
26:11
Speaker 4: which is good news, although I suspect they're going to
26:15
Speaker 4: turn up somewhere somehow.
26:16
Speaker 15: Anyway, Absolutely, and a matter of sat as This should
26:21
Speaker 15: not even come before a court, obviously, it should be
26:24
Speaker 15: a matter of humanity and realizing their actobras seven is
26:27
Speaker 15: a David, you really should just put aside the whole argument.
26:31
Speaker 15: It's only the first anniversary. This is still raw, It'll
26:35
Speaker 15: be raw for years, for decades. And yet certain groups
26:40
Speaker 15: obviously want to exploit this and make it more powerful
26:44
Speaker 15: of an issue than it is, and they want to
26:46
Speaker 15: basically they want to hold a party. And I've heard
26:49
Speaker 15: some palus dinting groups describing it as a vigil. Why
26:53
Speaker 15: would it be a vigil from their point of view?
26:55
Speaker 15: Who were the people who were killed?
26:57
Speaker 4: So I agree with you it shouldn't be a matter
26:59
Speaker 4: of legal cases and court bands and police action. Anybody
27:04
Speaker 4: with an ounce of humanity in their body would not
27:08
Speaker 4: want to commemorate this day in this way, to make
27:10
Speaker 4: this protest. And not only are all those deaths and
27:13
Speaker 4: the ensuing consequences fresh in our minds, Tim, but there
27:18
Speaker 4: are one hundred and one hostages still unaccounted for.
27:21
Speaker 3: We know many of those will be dead, but we
27:23
Speaker 3: know some are alive.
27:24
Speaker 4: Mark, And yet they want to celebrate this atrocity while
27:28
Speaker 4: there are people who have been in captivity at the
27:31
Speaker 4: hands of Hummus for a year on Monday.
27:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your anger there is one hundred percent justified.
27:39
Speaker 2: To be honest, it's absolutely deplorable. Just the other day
27:42
Speaker 2: when I was seeing those pictures holding up the formal
27:46
Speaker 2: letterer of Hesbla up as if it was like a memorial,
27:49
Speaker 2: as if it was to be celebrated, was absolutely disgusting.
27:52
Speaker 2: If you told me, you know, a year after September eleven,
27:56
Speaker 2: that they were going to be holding up pictures of
27:58
Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden and that we were going to have
28:00
Speaker 2: a bunch of leaders floating around who were going to
28:02
Speaker 2: be using weak language and basically encouraging this sort of stuff,
28:07
Speaker 2: I would have told you were nuts. But it's just
28:09
Speaker 2: it's so emblematic of just how much hatred there is
28:13
Speaker 2: for the West at the moment, and with everything that's
28:17
Speaker 2: going on in the world. I just just it blows
28:19
Speaker 2: my mind that people are like this. It's really scary
28:23
Speaker 2: that this is Australia and that this is what's happening.
28:25
Speaker 3: Well, this is what troubles me.
28:29
Speaker 4: You know, we live in this great country and there's
28:31
Speaker 4: all sorts of creeds and ethnic backgrounds here, and if
28:35
Speaker 4: you live in Sydney and Melbourne, you know there are
28:37
Speaker 4: areas where there's a big concentration of Muslim communities or
28:40
Speaker 4: Jewish communities, and up until relatively recently you think this
28:44
Speaker 4: is a wonderful thing that everybody just coexists.
28:47
Speaker 3: But tim to think that we even have people in
28:50
Speaker 3: our country who would want to march and gloat.
28:53
Speaker 4: Over October the seventh, it just it sickens me and
28:57
Speaker 4: frightens me.
28:59
Speaker 15: Well, yes, as Mark was talking about about Posts nine
29:04
Speaker 15: to eleven, we did as well. We did have people
29:06
Speaker 15: who were honoring or some and bin Laden. After that,
29:08
Speaker 15: there were people who were defending that horrific series of
29:14
Speaker 15: attacks back in two thousand and one. We do have
29:18
Speaker 15: obviously a massive problem with let's just generally call it,
29:23
Speaker 15: because it's not all Muslims who are this sort of
29:27
Speaker 15: in this plic popular population sex. Yeah, it's a a
29:30
Speaker 15: lot of people who were just on the generic sort
29:32
Speaker 15: of you know Australian left who are you know, maybe
29:36
Speaker 15: over doing it a bit the on the encouragement of multiculturalism.
29:39
Speaker 4: Let's say, yeah, well, the bloke you always see fronting
29:41
Speaker 4: up speaking on behalf of the Sydney protesters is he's
29:45
Speaker 4: not a Muslim. He's an Anglo Australian bloke who's a
29:49
Speaker 4: leading socialist activist. He's with the Socialist Alliance or whatever
29:52
Speaker 4: they call themselves. So they're doing a lot of damage
29:55
Speaker 4: to Australia, which is what they want to do. Let's
29:57
Speaker 4: move on to something a little bit more heartening. I
29:59
Speaker 4: suppose proves that life goes on as per normal. A
30:04
Speaker 4: good old fashioned campaign gaff just sort of one day
30:07
Speaker 4: into the Queensland state election campaign and the Premier, Stephen Miles,
30:11
Speaker 4: is campaigning in an electorate.
30:13
Speaker 3: And one of the things you want to you want
30:15
Speaker 3: to know when.
30:15
Speaker 4: You're campaigning in an electorate is who your candidate is.
30:19
Speaker 3: He had no idea how a look, I'll.
30:28
Speaker 15: Find out way that I don't have that detail in
30:34
Speaker 15: front of.
30:34
Speaker 16: Men of your team and said you're today Susan.
30:40
Speaker 15: Yeah, of course it's Susan.
30:41
Speaker 5: Yea.
30:45
Speaker 4: I was with the other names.
30:49
Speaker 3: Marcus so good.
30:50
Speaker 4: He's in the Electric Come here and vote labor vote
30:52
Speaker 4: number one for the what's her name?
30:58
Speaker 11: Giggles he smile wiped off pretty quick behind him.
31:03
Speaker 2: It was I've been thinking, it's been a long time
31:06
Speaker 2: since I've seen a gaff from Malesy on this campaign.
31:09
Speaker 2: Anyone would think that they've sort of given up. Well,
31:11
Speaker 2: there's evidence that they have. You know, we're hearing reports
31:14
Speaker 2: that there are a lot of labor candidates that are
31:17
Speaker 2: just sitting around waiting to lose.
31:19
Speaker 14: And there it is.
31:19
Speaker 2: It's clear as crystal they are pretty much just not
31:22
Speaker 2: trying in this election. It's nuts.
31:26
Speaker 3: He'll end up writing the candidate's names on the back
31:28
Speaker 3: of his hands soon.
31:32
Speaker 15: Everyone thought right up until that, the Tim Walls, the
31:34
Speaker 15: US vice presidential candidate, he'd had the worst week of
31:37
Speaker 15: a politician in the world. Well, we might have first
31:41
Speaker 15: found somebody who's saying, you hold my beer for it.
31:43
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I've got another one for you. I
31:45
Speaker 3: noticed this today.
31:46
Speaker 4: We know how our esteemed Prime minister is actually embarrassing
31:51
Speaker 4: the country with his spineless attitude to Israel and matters
31:55
Speaker 4: Middle East. So what is he doing in his spare time, Well,
31:57
Speaker 4: he's getting onto social media, trying to to play people's
32:01
Speaker 4: hero in the supermarkets.
32:02
Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
32:04
Speaker 11: You will have seen it.
32:05
Speaker 17: A product comes out in new packaging.
32:08
Speaker 3: It's the same.
32:08
Speaker 17: Price as before, but the box feels a little bit lighter.
32:13
Speaker 17: It's called shrink flation, and it's a trick supermarkets and
32:17
Speaker 17: food retailers used to charge you more when you're.
32:20
Speaker 11: Getting less.
32:22
Speaker 3: Mark This is beyond satire. He is satirizing himself.
32:26
Speaker 4: This is the incredible shrinking album, Easy before our very eyes.
32:32
Speaker 2: He's just so desperate for any sort of positive press
32:36
Speaker 2: at the moment.
32:36
Speaker 11: You can see it in his face.
32:38
Speaker 14: He's just desperate for it.
32:40
Speaker 2: And it's weird because I know that they're all playing
32:42
Speaker 2: buddy buddies anyway with the big supermarkets. You know, when
32:46
Speaker 2: you've got immigration levels as as unsustainable as they are,
32:49
Speaker 2: that's feeding into the supermarkets, which is helping them, and
32:53
Speaker 2: it's helping the banks. And that's what it all is.
32:54
Speaker 2: They're all mates behind the scenes. This is kind of
32:56
Speaker 2: just a this is a weird thing. This is all
32:58
Speaker 2: just for TikTok and just to try and get some
33:00
Speaker 2: positive reviews for once.
33:02
Speaker 4: But it is embarrassing Tim, Yeah, it's just so embarrassing
33:05
Speaker 4: as so unprime ministerially.
33:07
Speaker 3: He can't handle the big stuff, so he wants to
33:09
Speaker 3: be the checkout guy.
33:13
Speaker 15: It might be unprime ministerial, but it certainly is presidential
33:16
Speaker 15: because Joe Biden tried exactly this same dumb distractionary tactic.
33:20
Speaker 15: Did he know as his frame was turning into breakfast cereal?
33:24
Speaker 15: And it seems I keep talking about this, every dumb
33:30
Speaker 15: idea out of the US left ends up being adopted
33:33
Speaker 15: by the Australian left. And that's another one, s Fla.
33:36
Speaker 15: It's you know, when you follow the ideas that were
33:38
Speaker 15: abandoned by Joe Biden six months ago, you're really not
33:41
Speaker 15: trying very.
33:41
Speaker 2: Hard, are you?
33:44
Speaker 18: Well?
33:44
Speaker 4: Speaking of speaking of Joe Biden, of course, as you
33:47
Speaker 4: both know, America has been hit by another horrific hurricane.
33:51
Speaker 3: A lot of flooding in Florida.
33:52
Speaker 4: There always is, because it's about one and a half
33:54
Speaker 4: meters above sea level right across Florida.
33:57
Speaker 3: But of course it's climate change driving this. Who knows,
34:02
Speaker 3: who's the expert on this, Joe Biden? Never look Because
34:06
Speaker 3: of this, nobody can deny the impact of climate crisis anymore,
34:10
Speaker 3: at least I hope they don't.
34:12
Speaker 14: They must be brain down if they do.
34:14
Speaker 4: You must be brain dead if you deny it. Mark
34:17
Speaker 4: this is the world's leading expert on brain dead.
34:23
Speaker 2: I think I had the same reaction as everyone else
34:24
Speaker 2: when they saw that this morning there when I'm brain dead,
34:30
Speaker 2: it's kettle black. I just turned into a primary school kid.
34:34
Speaker 2: I was like, you are it takes one no.
34:39
Speaker 4: Riticular Yeah, and Tim, I don't know whether you're a
34:45
Speaker 4: Tim tam man. But we've been talking about how they've
34:47
Speaker 4: hit six dollars in Australia. Somebody's gone to the trouble
34:50
Speaker 4: and check the price in the UK.
34:52
Speaker 11: They're cheaper in England.
34:53
Speaker 4: We're going to have people smuggling Timtams back into the
34:56
Speaker 4: country where.
34:57
Speaker 3: Maybe Albo needs to get on this. Albo needs to
35:00
Speaker 3: There were TikTok on tim Tam.
35:03
Speaker 15: Are we going to have an election on tim tam
35:05
Speaker 15: shrink flation? Because that would something?
35:10
Speaker 2: It is.
35:11
Speaker 15: This whole story reminds me of when when the Internet
35:13
Speaker 15: was a baby, when things were just happening and the
35:15
Speaker 15: people were able to communicate much more easily across nations.
35:18
Speaker 15: So enterprising Australian mothers whose kids were in the UK
35:23
Speaker 15: they set up an Internet thing so that their offspring
35:26
Speaker 15: could buy Australian products and great idea. So they're buying
35:29
Speaker 15: chimmy ripes and tim TAM's the most popular international item
35:33
Speaker 15: though for kids overseas, Australian kids overseas.
35:36
Speaker 4: Salada biscuits, Salada, Gotta love you Solada. All right, thanks
35:41
Speaker 4: for joining us, guys, keep an eye on the incredible
35:43
Speaker 4: shrinking Prime Minister for us.
35:45
Speaker 3: He's going to disappear before our very eyes.
35:47
Speaker 4: Mark Nicholson there and Tim Blair got to get to
35:50
Speaker 4: the break on the other side. Going to catch up
35:51
Speaker 4: with Ourn Webster and talk about her calls to reintroduce
35:55
Speaker 4: there are calls apparently to have these protest laws in Victoria,
35:59
Speaker 4: but also pitt So to tell us about this fresh
36:02
Speaker 4: blow to Labour's green hydrogen plan. Let's head to the
36:10
Speaker 4: wonderful river city of Mildura in Victoria and catch up.
36:13
Speaker 3: With nationals MP and Webster. Thanks for joining us again.
36:16
Speaker 4: And we know that the federal government's organizing to evacuate
36:20
Speaker 4: a lot of Australians from Lebanon.
36:22
Speaker 3: You have some concerns about this.
36:26
Speaker 19: Oh look, I think that we don't want to see
36:29
Speaker 19: a repeat of the visa debacle that occurred with Garzen
36:35
Speaker 19: people coming over here where they were brought over with
36:39
Speaker 19: tourist visas. I mean, my understanding and all that I've
36:42
Speaker 19: read today is that it's Australian citizens and permanent residents
36:46
Speaker 19: that the government, whom I think probably have learnt their lesson,
36:50
Speaker 19: are bringing from Lebanon.
36:52
Speaker 18: And the fact that people have not taken up.
36:54
Speaker 19: Currently fifteen thousand people Australians who are in Lebanon at
36:59
Speaker 19: the moment and very few have actually taken up that
37:02
Speaker 19: opportunity to get on planes is really pretty hard to understand.
37:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's confounding. They've been worn for months to get
37:10
Speaker 4: out of there. They should have left there that there
37:12
Speaker 4: are enough warning signs.
37:13
Speaker 3: But I think you're right.
37:13
Speaker 4: I think it's only Australian citizens or permanent residents, so
37:17
Speaker 4: it should be no need for security checks and the like.
37:21
Speaker 4: I do want to get your thoughts on the protests.
37:23
Speaker 4: You know, in Sydney there's been the kerfuffalo about a
37:27
Speaker 4: planned protest and police.
37:28
Speaker 3: Action through the courts to try and prevent it.
37:31
Speaker 4: There are calls that similar laws should be in place
37:33
Speaker 4: in Victorious to give police and courts more control I
37:37
Speaker 4: suppose over authorizing protests.
37:40
Speaker 3: Do you think that's necessary or going too far?
37:45
Speaker 19: Look, I think that Victoria is proving itself the great
37:49
Speaker 19: wettest lettuce we lettuce leaf.
37:52
Speaker 18: Let me get it out with regard.
37:54
Speaker 19: To how they're behaving with these protests, and what we've
37:58
Speaker 19: seen on the streets is a calling and I have
38:02
Speaker 19: very little faith that Victoria, who likes to control an
38:05
Speaker 19: awful lot of our lives, let's face it, is actually
38:08
Speaker 19: doing very little to ensure that these protests remain safe.
38:13
Speaker 18: I mean, what we see in Victoria is that.
38:17
Speaker 19: Israeli ju who holds an Israeli flag, He's the one
38:21
Speaker 19: who's being taken away, not those who are holding terrorist
38:26
Speaker 19: flags and flags that support.
38:28
Speaker 18: Humas and Hezbala. Now Victoria.
38:33
Speaker 19: Just needs to get with program and understand what this
38:36
Speaker 19: really means for Australians and for Victorians who live in
38:40
Speaker 19: this state and want to be safe.
38:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine investigations now being conducted by the Australian Federal
38:46
Speaker 4: Police across both states over complaints about these symbols. Thanks
38:51
Speaker 4: so much for joining us, and I appreciate and Webster
38:53
Speaker 4: there joining us live from Milldurope. I want to now
38:56
Speaker 4: go to Queensland and catch up with National MP Keith
38:59
Speaker 4: Pitt joining us from a Bunderberg.
39:01
Speaker 3: Good to talk to your Keith. Want to get into
39:03
Speaker 3: energy obviously, as.
39:04
Speaker 11: We so often do with you.
39:05
Speaker 4: First up this report out of the US earlier in
39:08
Speaker 4: the week. It really destroyed all of Labour's arguments against nuclear.
39:12
Speaker 4: It says, if you want to get to net zero
39:14
Speaker 4: with renewables, you need nuclear energy. It's the perfect partner
39:18
Speaker 4: for renewables. And guess what, as well as firming everything up,
39:22
Speaker 4: it makes it cheaper, Chris.
39:26
Speaker 20: It's so expensive according to Chris Bowen that the United
39:29
Speaker 20: States is going to triple their nuclear capacity by twenty fifty,
39:33
Speaker 20: so that's how expensive it is. They're going to get
39:36
Speaker 20: three times as much nuclear generation capacity in the United
39:39
Speaker 20: States than they do now.
39:41
Speaker 3: It is the right choice for Australia.
39:43
Speaker 20: It works, and this is the fundamental problem with Chris
39:47
Speaker 20: Bowen's proposal. What they want to do with part time
39:50
Speaker 20: power simply won't work. That there is nothing more devastating
39:54
Speaker 20: in the country than your energy supply it not being there.
39:57
Speaker 3: When you need it.
39:58
Speaker 20: So it's cost effective, works one hundred percent of the time,
40:01
Speaker 20: and you don't have to cover the entire country with
40:03
Speaker 20: a giant type of solar panels and wind turbines.
40:07
Speaker 4: Now there's been another big development on Labour's energy plans
40:11
Speaker 4: today and in my mind it kind of looks something
40:14
Speaker 4: like this.
40:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, keith I reckon.
40:29
Speaker 4: That looks like Labour's green hydrogen plan exploding, right, because
40:33
Speaker 4: they're telling us this was going to be the answer
40:36
Speaker 4: to the nation's energy needs. Twiggy Forests pulled out of
40:39
Speaker 4: it about a month ago, and now another major energy company,
40:42
Speaker 4: Origin has said no, it's not working, it has cost
40:45
Speaker 4: too much.
40:46
Speaker 3: We're out.
40:49
Speaker 20: Well, the CEO of Origin, Frank Calabria, he's no deal, right,
40:53
Speaker 20: so he's acting in the interest of his organization and
40:56
Speaker 20: his shareholders. And if you read the press release, and
40:58
Speaker 20: I did, I don't use some interesting terms, but that
41:02
Speaker 20: the short answer is this, the capital costs are too high,
41:05
Speaker 20: the end product will be too expensive, it's technically unfeasible
41:09
Speaker 20: and needs enormous breakthroughs in every single stage of the
41:12
Speaker 20: supply chain, and the buyers won't pay that much. So
41:15
Speaker 20: they've made a decision in the interest of their company
41:17
Speaker 20: and their shareholders, and the shareholders have dodged the green
41:20
Speaker 20: bullet because this simply will not work.
41:22
Speaker 18: Well.
41:23
Speaker 4: Look, Labor have been on about this forever. Here's what
41:25
Speaker 4: Chris Bowen's been saying on it.
41:28
Speaker 17: Hydrogen has a very important role to play in Australia's
41:31
Speaker 17: renewable energy future and a very important role to play
41:34
Speaker 17: in Australia's opportunity to become a renewable energy superpowered.
41:38
Speaker 4: They keep talking about this hydrogen renewable energy superpower.
41:42
Speaker 3: Is it going ahead anywhere? Are we just throwing good.
41:44
Speaker 4: Taxpayers money after bad on this whole hydrogen dream.
41:50
Speaker 20: This is what labor is about. They are all about
41:52
Speaker 20: feelings and they're not about facts, physics, engineering, economics, anyone
41:57
Speaker 20: you talk to that actually knows this in this field
42:01
Speaker 20: so that you need enormous technical breakthroughs. You can't take
42:04
Speaker 20: it from its current cost of around nine dollars a
42:07
Speaker 20: kilo for green hydrogen and make.
42:09
Speaker 15: It two dollars.
42:10
Speaker 18: It's just not feasible.
42:12
Speaker 20: But they keep talking about it because they know it
42:13
Speaker 20: makes people feel good. Well, feelings don't make things happen,
42:17
Speaker 20: and it certainly doesn't make companies like Origin and even
42:19
Speaker 20: Twiggy Forest invest billions of dollars of their shareholders money
42:23
Speaker 20: where they know it's not feasible and it won't work.
42:26
Speaker 4: Well, this has been a bad week for Chris Bowen,
42:29
Speaker 4: hasn't it. I mean, there's two massive holes in his
42:32
Speaker 4: so called green energy.
42:33
Speaker 20: Plan I got to say, mate, I'm not that unhappy
42:38
Speaker 20: about mister Bohn having a bad week.
42:40
Speaker 3: I think their proposal for the.
42:42
Speaker 20: Country is simply mad. We can't afford it, and every
42:45
Speaker 20: single Australian right now knows that costs are through the
42:48
Speaker 20: roof and it's because of these types of policies.
42:50
Speaker 3: Yes, is what's doing it.
42:51
Speaker 20: We need cheap, affordable, reliable energy.
42:54
Speaker 4: Not enough media coverage on this. It'll come eventually because
42:57
Speaker 4: the facts have their way of working their way into
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Speaker 4: the argument eventually, and this stuff is just dynamite, just
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Speaker 4: absolutely undercuts all of Labour's energy arguments.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Keith. I appreciate Keith pit the
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Speaker 3: Live from Queensland.
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Speaker 4: They get to the break after the break and to
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Speaker 4: catch up with a former Foreign Minister Alexander down I
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Speaker 4: get his thoughts on Anthony Albanesi's weakness over Israel. Well,
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Speaker 4: right around the world now people are waiting to see
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Speaker 4: what Israel does, how they retaliate against Iran. I put
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Speaker 4: the former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer that it would likely
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Speaker 4: be a highly targeted attack.
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Speaker 14: I think that's right. It will be a fairly precise targeting.
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Speaker 14: It'll be something though and it will be pretty painful
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Speaker 14: for Iran, and it will teach the Iranians that if
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Speaker 14: they continue with this strategy, it will lead to an
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Speaker 14: all out war, and an all out war will be
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Speaker 14: a catastrophe for the Iranian leadership, who were not supported
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Speaker 14: by the vast majority of the Iranian people. And it's
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Speaker 14: very important to remember that. So I mean Nesi Yahoo
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Speaker 14: and the Israelis have the upper hand in this situation.
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Speaker 4: Aside from all the trauma in Israel, of course, the
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Speaker 4: people that are suffering most at the moment are all
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Speaker 4: those in Lebanon, especially southern Lebanon. Now that's because of
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Speaker 4: the behavior and the installations and the terrorism perpetrated by
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Speaker 4: Hezbalah funded and directed by Iran. But explain to us
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Speaker 4: about the Lebanese government, what role does it play, what
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Speaker 4: autonomy does it have or is it a puppet of
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Speaker 4: Iran and he Bla too.
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Speaker 14: Well, it just doesn't have the authority and the power
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Speaker 14: to take control of that area between the Latani River
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Speaker 14: and the south of Lebanon and the border. You know,
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Speaker 14: under the Security Council Resolution seventeen oh one, that area
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Speaker 14: is supposed to be cleared of any military other than
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Speaker 14: the Lebanese military and what's called UNIFIL, the United Nations
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Speaker 14: Force in Lebanon ward. UNIFHIL has just gone missing altogether.
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Speaker 14: And over the last few years, Hasbellah has been able
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Speaker 14: to rebuild their military capacity in that area, totally contrary.
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Speaker 16: To Security Council as Security Council resolution, and they've been
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Speaker 16: firing rockets indiscriminately into Israel and it's Israeli cities.
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Speaker 14: So in the end, I mean, no Prime Minister of
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Speaker 14: Israel can ignore that, has to deal with it. The
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Speaker 14: UN won't deal with it, so he has to deal
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Speaker 14: with it himself. And the Israeli Defense Force is just
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Speaker 14: doing that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the only way they can defend themselves. Let's
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Speaker 4: just talk about some of the Australian reaction here.
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Speaker 3: I showed this comment from Anthony Albanezi yesterday to show.
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Speaker 4: How pathetic he is in action against the terror groups
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Speaker 4: or in support of Israel.
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Speaker 17: Well, we regard Hasbelah as a terrorist organization, as we
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Speaker 17: regard hamas as a terrorist organization. We have been working
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Speaker 17: with like minded countries and issuing appropriate statements such as
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Speaker 17: the one that I referred to.
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Speaker 4: I mean issuing appropriate statements all the sort of talking points.
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Speaker 4: There no strong willed defense of Israel and support for
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Speaker 4: it to get rid of these terror groups. And today
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Speaker 4: the Deputy Prime Minister Richard Miles has again joined calls
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Speaker 4: for a ceasefire.
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Speaker 3: Have a listen to that.
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Speaker 21: We am not about to deny country's rights to defend themselves.
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Speaker 21: That said, we have added our voice to an international
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Speaker 21: call led by the United States for a twenty one
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Speaker 21: day ceasefire, and we continue.
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Speaker 2: To do that.
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Speaker 4: Only one day cease fire that you in is again
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Speaker 4: calling for this Alexander downer. But of course, with Hesbela
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Speaker 4: with so many weapons embedded in southern Lebanon, all a
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Speaker 4: ceasefire would do would protect Hezbela and those weapons. It
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Speaker 4: doesn't help Israel defend itself at all.
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Speaker 14: No, a ceasefire is absolutely out of the question, and
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Speaker 14: these calls for a ceasefire a little short of pathetic.
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Speaker 14: I mean, the Israeli government will of course not take
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Speaker 14: any notice of these cries for a seaspire, which will
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Speaker 14: be entirely to the advantage of Hesbalah and Hesbalara on
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Speaker 14: the back foot. Now it's the time to crush them,
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Speaker 14: apparently not. Now it's the time to give them a break,
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Speaker 14: give them twenty one I'm not sure why it's twenty
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Speaker 14: one days, but twenty one days to rebuild themselves and
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Speaker 14: consolidate their positions so that they'll be well placed to
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Speaker 14: fire more rockets missile into Israel. I mean, it's absolutely
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Speaker 14: out of the question. I make this point about the
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Speaker 14: Australian government. Nobody in the world is listening to Australia anymore.
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Speaker 14: Australia has played itself out of this issue completely. It
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Speaker 14: has no soft power and its statements have no meaning
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Speaker 14: because they're not helpful to Israel. They're not helpful to
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Speaker 14: dealing with this problem of Islamic terrorism, which is trying
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Speaker 14: to destroy Israel. And so bearing that in mind, and
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Speaker 14: bearing in mind everybody knows that Labour's position is entirely
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Speaker 14: driven by domestic politics, people will just ignore them, and
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Speaker 14: they are ignoring them. They're also importantly because that's not
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Speaker 14: very important in the great sweep of things, even if
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Speaker 14: it is to us as Australians. But more importantly, they're
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Speaker 14: ignoring Joe Biden as well, who's lost all leverage with
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Speaker 14: net in Yahoo.
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Speaker 18: Now.
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Speaker 14: I mean, Israel well has to defend itself and destroy
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Speaker 14: these terrorist organizations which you're back by Iran, and if
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Speaker 14: it leads to war with Iran, will so be it.
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Speaker 14: But in the end, if it comes to de escalation
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Speaker 14: and sea spars, let's hear the Iranians agree to a ceasepar.
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Speaker 14: Let's hear the Iranians agree to escalate de escalation. Let's
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Speaker 14: put the pressure on Iran instead of continually putting pressure
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Speaker 14: on Israel in order to appease Islamic minorities in our
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Speaker 14: own countries.
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Speaker 3: Yes, spot on, Alexander Downer, Thanks so much for joining us.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it the pleasure.
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Speaker 4: Chris. Let's go to some of what you had to
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Speaker 4: say when I was attacking Anthony Alberanzi's pathetic stand on
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Speaker 4: Israel last night. Billy says, come on, Albanezi, pick aside.
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Speaker 4: That's why they call you each way, Albo. Another of
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Speaker 4: your says, which side to choose, the one that supports
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Speaker 4: democracy and freedom or the one which doesn't support this
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Speaker 4: Such a hard choice to make, Sharon says Albanez, he
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Speaker 4: puts his political career ahead of moral clarity. And another
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Speaker 4: of your says, the worst government we've ever had. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: he's pathetic on this, and it's a global issue. Of course,
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Speaker 4: there's the global strategic issues at stake here, but there's
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Speaker 4: also the social cohesion at home, the way this is
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Speaker 4: tearing apart our own country, and what is our prime
50:23
Speaker 4: mister doing.
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Speaker 3: Well, here's a reminder. Here's what he's onto today.
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Speaker 11: You will have seen it.
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Speaker 17: A product comes out in new packaging.
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Speaker 3: It's the same.
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Speaker 17: Price as before, but the box feels a little bit lighter.
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Speaker 11: It's called shrink flation.
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Speaker 3: Talk about shrink flation.
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Speaker 4: He's our incredible shrinking prime minister, disappearing when his country
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Speaker 4: needs him.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you next week.