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Cold Case: Missing Lindsey Baum · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Police and the FBI prepared to step up their rewards
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Speaker 1: to answer the burning question, where is Lindsay. Maybe you
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Speaker 1: don't realize something that you saw or heard. This is
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nolan to date has risen
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Speaker 1: to the level that we would label them as suspect,
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Speaker 1: and I am just begging for somebody that may know
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Speaker 1: something or strongly suspects something. Hello, everybody, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. I'm Nancy Grace and you are listening
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Speaker 1: Today we are taking a look with the hopes of
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Speaker 1: re igniting the search for a beautiful young girl. Her
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Speaker 1: name many of you will know Lindsay Bomb, and joining
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Speaker 1: me right now is a special guest. Her mother is
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Speaker 1: joining us, Melissa Bomb. Melissa, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Nancy. I appreciate your interests.
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Speaker 1: You know, Melissa, it's never easy to talk about losing
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Speaker 1: someone you love. I mean, today I was working with
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Speaker 1: my father's will and I cried the whole time. And
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Speaker 1: I know Lindsay disappeared a while back, but that people
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Speaker 1: don't understand that does not change your feelings about Lindsay
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Speaker 1: you will love her forever and always look for answers.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't get easier, It doesn't. Why is that. I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people expect, Oh, well, well I've and
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Speaker 1: this was a very close family member. Um. We had
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Speaker 1: this conversation a few months ago and she's like, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's been seven years. You just need
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Speaker 1: to suck it up and move on. Like we actually
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Speaker 1: said the word suck it up and move on. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what she said. My thought is mine doesn't
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Speaker 1: end like when my mom died. Part of me has
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Speaker 1: never gotten over that my mom has been gone. It
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Speaker 1: will be twenty years Mother's day. I've never gotten over that.
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Speaker 1: I still missed my mother every day. My mother was
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Speaker 1: the greatest woman in the world. She was my mentor
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Speaker 1: and and I loved her. But it's a different it's
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Speaker 1: a different, different kind of it's a different kind of love. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I hate to use the word closure, but you know,
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Speaker 1: I know that my mother passed away, my mother, you know,
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Speaker 1: she with lindsay, it's different because I don't know where
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Speaker 1: my daughter is. I don't know what's happening to her.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to her. I don't know
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Speaker 1: who took her. I want to go back to that night.
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Speaker 1: It was June two thousand and nine, nine fifteen pm.
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Speaker 1: Now tell me if I've got this right. Because things
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Speaker 1: are reported sometimes a little differently than they really happened.
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Speaker 1: There's a certain nuance it's missing. It's my understanding. Lindsay
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Speaker 1: went to a pool party or to a neighbor's to
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Speaker 1: go to their pool, and she was coming home, decided
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Speaker 1: to come back and not spend the night. At nine
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Speaker 1: fIF pm she left the friend's house and they were
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Speaker 1: just a few blocks away from you, right, Yes? How
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Speaker 1: how far away was the home? And we're not talking
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Speaker 1: New York City blocks, We're talking I lived on the
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Speaker 1: It was the same street, two different names, but it
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Speaker 1: was the exact same street. I was at. The first
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Speaker 1: avenue Momson was where I lived. And I'm talking the
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Speaker 1: town only had people in it, so this is a
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Speaker 1: tiny town. But and and her friend lived on in
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Speaker 1: between six and seven. Now, so you're telling me Maple
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Speaker 1: turned into Momson. Yes, on the main street that comes
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Speaker 1: down the hill where it was divided at the shell station.
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Speaker 1: Moms turned right, you'd be on Momson if you wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. You just tell me
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Speaker 1: something I did. No, did you say a shell station
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Speaker 1: like a gas station? She walked past a gas station. Well,
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Speaker 1: we don't even know that she made it to the
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Speaker 1: gas station. The gas station was only like close to
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Speaker 1: my house. Um, I lived kind of kitty corner behind it.
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Speaker 1: But they never um were able to see her on
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Speaker 1: the video because the videos only covered the doors and that,
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Speaker 1: so we don't even know if we don't think she
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Speaker 1: made it to the show. Let me understand something with me.
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Speaker 1: Is Lindsay Bomb's mother. Lindsay goes missing June two thousand nine,
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Speaker 1: Now you're telling me if she had walked normally from
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Speaker 1: the neighbor's home to your home, she would have passed
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Speaker 1: a shell station. You know that. That gives me a
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Speaker 1: whole line of questioning. Now the shell station hadn't have
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Speaker 1: been there, I could have seen straight all the way
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Speaker 1: down to Kara's house. But the way the cell station
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Speaker 1: said it blocked my view. Otherwise I could have seen
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Speaker 1: all the way down the road because it was literally
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Speaker 1: straight down. How many blocks was it? Okay? So I
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Speaker 1: know she left the friend's home because the family says
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Speaker 1: she left, and even more importantly, an objective observer drives
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Speaker 1: by and sees her about halfway from the friend's house
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Speaker 1: to your house, so we know she made it that
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Speaker 1: far on a ten minute walk. She's literally five minutes
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Speaker 1: from home. What happened less than five minutes. The whole
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Speaker 1: walk wouldn't take her more than five minutes. Well, she's
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Speaker 1: supposed to spend the night at that party. No, her
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Speaker 1: friend they had gone to her. They weren't at the
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Speaker 1: same house where the pool party was. The pool party
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Speaker 1: was actually even closer. The pool party was right across
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Speaker 1: the street from the shell station. She went to her
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Speaker 1: other friends that was with her that was gonna spend
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Speaker 1: the night. So they had gone to her friends to
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Speaker 1: get close or clothes or whatever, and you know, to
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Speaker 1: make sure that she could spend the night. Well, it
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Speaker 1: ended up she wasn't able to spend the night. Her
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Speaker 1: parents something had come up that they had to do
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Speaker 1: the next day, and she's like, no, not tonight. So
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Speaker 1: Lindsay left to come home. When she left my house
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Speaker 1: because she had come home from the pool party and
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Speaker 1: showered and changed, and then that her and her friend michaela,
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Speaker 1: my son Josh and Michaela's brother Kyler. There was like
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Speaker 1: a group of six or seven kids that left my
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Speaker 1: yard heading to Michaela's house, but they all split off
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Speaker 1: and it ended up just being Josh and Lindsay and
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Speaker 1: Michaela and her brother Kyler continued on towards their house.
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Speaker 1: My son ended up turning around and coming home about
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Speaker 1: two houses before they got Michaela's house, and he came
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Speaker 1: home before, so he was at home by the time
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Speaker 1: she got to Michaela's. When Lindsay left, she didn't she
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Speaker 1: didn't call. She didn't have her phone, which she never
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Speaker 1: left the house without her cell phone. She'd only had
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Speaker 1: it a few months and she never left a room
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Speaker 1: without her cell phone. But before she left it was dead,
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Speaker 1: so I guess she plugged it into charge planning on
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Speaker 1: being right back and didn't take it and for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: didn't ask to use their phone to call me and say, hey, Mom,
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Speaker 1: Michaela can't spend the night. I'm by myself. She knew
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Speaker 1: not to be by herself, even for five I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. It's like everything's fell into
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Speaker 1: place for the perfect storm. She didn't take the dog
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Speaker 1: with her. We had a hundred and ten pound German
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Speaker 1: shepherd that went everywhere with Lindsay, But for what she
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Speaker 1: didn't take cadence that. Let me ask you another question
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Speaker 1: about that pool party. Were there were all the attendees
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Speaker 1: her age? Were there any adults there? Were there any
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Speaker 1: teen cousins or brothers there? No, it was just a
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Speaker 1: group of kids from the school. They were all there.
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Speaker 1: There might have been a year or two his difference
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Speaker 1: in between them, but it was right in the middle
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Speaker 1: of town, so it wasn't like anybody could see them.
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Speaker 1: Are you sure no other adults were there? And they were.
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Speaker 1: What I'm asking is, were there any other adult males there?
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Speaker 1: No other than the little girl's father, And I'm not
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Speaker 1: even positive he was there at the time that all
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Speaker 1: the kids were there. One of the persons of interest
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Speaker 1: that they had interviewed lived right behind them, and somebody
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Speaker 1: had reported somehow one of the things that they had
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Speaker 1: interviewed him about was that he had been watching the
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Speaker 1: kids in the pool party because he lived behind them,
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Speaker 1: so he could see them playing. Are you talking about Hartman? No,
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Speaker 1: but he also lived right behind there. No, Tim Hartman
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Speaker 1: could have also seen them in the pool um, But
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Speaker 1: this guy's name was trying to think of his name.
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Speaker 1: I can see his face. I had never even heard
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Speaker 1: of him or met him. Um, but he was living
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Speaker 1: with some relatives. Um, just a couple of houses down
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Speaker 1: and behind where the pool party was. Why was he
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Speaker 1: living with relatives, Melissa? Why was he living with relatives?
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever knew. Why did he
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Speaker 1: become a person of interest? Yes, they did interview him,
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Speaker 1: they searched the property. I believe he moved out of
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Speaker 1: town after that, but they I bet he did move
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Speaker 1: out of town. Now see that as a whole new wrinkle. Now,
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Speaker 1: just because there was nothing found in the search, why
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Speaker 1: did they remove him from suspicion? Well, I don't think
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Speaker 1: they ever. They haven't officially removed him from suspicion, just
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Speaker 1: like they haven't officially removed apartment and and the other.
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Speaker 1: The first person of interest, which was one who followed
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Speaker 1: me for about forty five minutes, just a week or
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Speaker 1: two after Lindsay disappeared. He was following me around town.
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Speaker 1: As I was on the phone with saying, there's somebody
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Speaker 1: following me. He's following me, He's writing my tail, He's
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Speaker 1: following me everywhere. Um, it took forty five minutes for
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Speaker 1: a cop from another town to respond, And meanwhile, I'm
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Speaker 1: just going in circles. He was following me. I had
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Speaker 1: no idea who he was. Why was he following you?
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Speaker 1: To this day, I don't know. I didn't even know
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Speaker 1: that's who it was until the day they were searching
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Speaker 1: the property. UM, And they brought his car into the
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Speaker 1: police station and we recognized his car. I didn't know
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Speaker 1: who he was. I didn't know where he lived. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know anything about them. The only reason I knew
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Speaker 1: that that was because I saw his car and I
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Speaker 1: knew they were out searching property out off mok Chayla's,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't know who it was. But then when
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Speaker 1: I saw the car and like my my friend Michaela's
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Speaker 1: mom Kara and I who was with me that night,
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Speaker 1: we looked at each other and like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: that's the guy that was following us. So I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't know what they did search. They took a
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff out other than him following you that day?
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Speaker 1: Is there any others and he was named a person
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Speaker 1: of interest? There were and again I don't know all
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Speaker 1: of the details. UM. At one like I said, you can,
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Speaker 1: kind of you can. It's in the search warrant. They're available,
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Speaker 1: and I know it was posted on a lot of
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Speaker 1: sites back then there, but there was it was the
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Speaker 1: comments that were made. His g friend Um had reported
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Speaker 1: him after they broke up, which he ended up getting
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Speaker 1: back together with and they now have a child together,
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Speaker 1: but she had reported that he had told her that
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Speaker 1: he Um had had taken Lindsay and dismembered her and
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Speaker 1: put her in his grandmother's old well. Again, they didn't
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Speaker 1: share all the details of everything with me, but there
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Speaker 1: were his location, He wasn't where he said he was.
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Speaker 1: His phone was off that night. There was a lot
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Speaker 1: of reasons they looked at him, and with me it
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Speaker 1: was always, well why else would he be following me?
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Speaker 1: You know? He tried to tell the police he didn't
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Speaker 1: know who I was. Well, I had a Lindsay fire
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Speaker 1: hanging in my window and I know Dan Gooden, well
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Speaker 1: he knew who why I was. I want to go
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Speaker 1: back to Melissa the night that she went missing, from
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Speaker 1: the beginning, when she came home to change after the
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Speaker 1: pool party. What happened. She came in, took a shower. Um,
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Speaker 1: I was in there in the living room doing something
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Speaker 1: on the computer. I don't remember. Josh was there and
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Speaker 1: her friend Michaela and all the other kids waited outside
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Speaker 1: while Lindsay ran in and took a quick shower and changed.
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Speaker 1: And when she came out, I was laughing and I'm like, Lindsay,
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Speaker 1: it's ninety degrees out. Why are you wearing jeans and
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Speaker 1: a and a and a longsleeve shirt. And she's like,
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Speaker 1: because this is my passion, you know. She wouldn't wear shorts.
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Speaker 1: She wore jeans with the holes cut out of the knees.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, whatever. It was evening time anyway,
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Speaker 1: so it wasn't that big of a deal. And she
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Speaker 1: went outside and then she came back in and she's like, Mom,
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Speaker 1: there's a man outside his dogs missing. And I said, Lindsay,
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Speaker 1: you know, never to go near anybody. You know that
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Speaker 1: that tells you that she was dumb. Mom. I'm not,
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Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not stupid. And she said it his
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Speaker 1: dog is missing, which the law enforcement did verify because
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Speaker 1: the guy had hung flyers all over town and he'd
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Speaker 1: been asking all of her town. But it's just weird,
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Speaker 1: you know, a few days before that she had thought
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Speaker 1: that somebody was following her, but we were never able
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Speaker 1: to get a description enough of them to know. You know, well,
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Speaker 1: that night, after she comes home and takes a shower
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Speaker 1: from after the pool party, she comes out in her
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Speaker 1: jeans and then what happens. Um We talked for a
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Speaker 1: little bit, and then she said she wanted to go
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Speaker 1: with Michaela to see if she could spend the night
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Speaker 1: again because she had spent the previous night with us.
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Speaker 1: And I said, well, it's going to be dark soon,
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Speaker 1: so if you guys are gonna do that, you go
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Speaker 1: straight there and come straight back. I want you home,
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Speaker 1: and she's like okay. And then before she left, I said, Lindsay,
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Speaker 1: I mean it. If you see that man again, don't
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Speaker 1: go near his car as if you don't, and she's like, mom, duh,
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Speaker 1: I told you I'm not stupid, and she walked out
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Speaker 1: the door. About half an hour went by and she
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Speaker 1: still wasn't back, so I called Kara, and by the
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Speaker 1: time I reached her, she's like, no, Lindsay was here
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Speaker 1: for like just a couple of minutes, and then she
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Speaker 1: left like she she's gone, and that was it. She
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Speaker 1: she didn't make it home. She didn't, of course, before
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Speaker 1: I called law enforcement, because you know, Lindsay, she was
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Speaker 1: almost eleven. It was eleven days before her eleventh birthday.
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Speaker 1: She had been really trying to establish independence and prove
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Speaker 1: that she was mature. So I thought, okay, well, maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe she went to Christina's on her way home to
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Speaker 1: see if Christina could spend the night. I wasn't sure
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Speaker 1: at that point because that's just not something, especially in
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Speaker 1: a town like McCleary. Your first thought is not, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, somebody took my child. So I get on
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Speaker 1: the phone and I, you know, I call Christina's house
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm, you know, calling around and know they
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Speaker 1: hadn't seen her. And I keep calling her phone, and
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Speaker 1: at some point, I don't know if it just where
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Speaker 1: I was in the house. I finally I heard her
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Speaker 1: phone ringing in the bedroom. So I went into her
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Speaker 1: bedroom and see her phone plugged in. So I take
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Speaker 1: her phone and I go through it and I call
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Speaker 1: all of her friends, asking have you seen Lindsay. Have
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Speaker 1: you seen Lindsay. Well, meanwhile, I'm walking around looking and
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Speaker 1: Michaelis parents got in their car and started driving around
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Speaker 1: town looking for this went on a good. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: until dark, when it actually got dark, that I finally
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Speaker 1: I called nine one one and and I didn't even
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Speaker 1: call nine one one, I called the police dispatch number
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Speaker 1: because at that point I I couldn't help but think,
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Speaker 1: you know, she's she went some you know, she she
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Speaker 1: stopped somewhere. She's gonna show up. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: cause this big ruckis and then her show up. But
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Speaker 1: by the time it got dark and she wasn't home,
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Speaker 1: I knew there was a problem because she wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: out after dark. It wasn't even just that it was
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Speaker 1: my rule that she had to be in or in
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Speaker 1: the in the house before dark. She didn't like to
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Speaker 1: be outside in the dark. So that's when I knew
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Speaker 1: something wasn't right. And it took about half an hour
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Speaker 1: for the police officer to get there to my house.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he knew my kids, and he agreed.
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Speaker 1: He's like, well, Josh and Lindsay sting, were you and
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Speaker 1: Lindsay fighting? You think she's just hiding out at somewhere
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Speaker 1: trying to Punishue. I'm like, no, we weren't. She Everything
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Speaker 1: was fine. I mean, her and Josh got into an
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Speaker 1: argument over his bike, But I mean, what else is new?
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Speaker 1: You know? They always argue and he's like, well, you
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Speaker 1: don't think she ran away? And no, she didn't run away.
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Speaker 1: And where would she go? There was no bus. The
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Speaker 1: buses had already stopped running. It was a small town,
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Speaker 1: so the bus only came through a few times a day.
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Speaker 1: She didn't have any money with her, she didn't even
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Speaker 1: have her phone with her. I mean, it was just
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Speaker 1: he didn't take Caden's. Everything fell. It was like the
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Speaker 1: perfect storm, like everything just came together to go wrong
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Speaker 1: that night. And what haunts me is things that Lindsay
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Speaker 1: had said previous the night before when MICHAELA was spending
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Speaker 1: the night that had been the day that Michael Jackson died,
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Speaker 1: and Lindsay Michaeler, you know, they were kind of upset.
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Speaker 1: That was pretty much the first famous person they knew
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Speaker 1: of that you know, had died. And we were talking
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Speaker 1: about Michael Jackson and and Lindsay looks at me and
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Speaker 1: she goes, mom, I just have this bad feelings something.
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Speaker 1: I just have this feeling something bad's gonna happen. And
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Speaker 1: I said something bad when you like like what she goes,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just have this feeling something really
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Speaker 1: bad's gonna happen. And that was the end of the conversation.
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Speaker 1: And the next day she was going I have reviewed
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Speaker 1: the video from that Shell Mart gas station in McCleary.
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Speaker 1: It was recorded the shell Mark we were talking about earlier.
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Speaker 1: It was recorded around nine thirty Jean, right about the
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Speaker 1: time Lindsay goes missing. And the footage shows an adult
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Speaker 1: white male dressed in a brown shirt and he's got
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Speaker 1: on black shorts with the Mariners cap and he's got
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Speaker 1: a young boy with him walking around inside the convenience
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Speaker 1: store part and if you keep looking, you can see
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Speaker 1: he's riding It looks to be brand new, uh white
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Speaker 1: Honda ridgeback truck, a ridgeline truck, and in it it
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Speaker 1: looks like there is a one of those sturdy boxes
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Speaker 1: that people sometimes carry. What have police told you about that,
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Speaker 1: if anything, Well, they were never able to because of
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Speaker 1: the way the cameras were. They were never able to
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Speaker 1: definitely confirmed that it was that man and boy driving
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Speaker 1: the Honda ridge Line. But he is the only person
19:21
Speaker 1: that they've never actually made contact with, and that white
19:25
Speaker 1: Honda ridge Line is the only vehicle that they have
19:27
Speaker 1: never located. He did have a boy with him, and
19:29
Speaker 1: it looked like a young boy, maybe nine or ten. Yeah,
19:34
Speaker 1: and I was really interested in a town that's small.
19:37
Speaker 1: Why no one knew who that was? Well, because a
19:43
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. For one, it's summer and McClary is
19:46
Speaker 1: a little town on the way to the beaches. So
19:48
Speaker 1: if you want to go to Ocean Shores or Pacific
19:51
Speaker 1: Beach or Westport or any of those, that's pretty much
19:55
Speaker 1: the only way you have to go. Buy McClary. There's
19:58
Speaker 1: also quite a few camp ounds in that area, and
20:01
Speaker 1: there's a big off road vehicle park where they at
20:04
Speaker 1: the time they had debraces. Well they still do. Let
20:07
Speaker 1: me ask you if those areas. Do you know if
20:10
Speaker 1: those areas were searched, those campground areas, Yes, they were.
20:15
Speaker 1: What do you know of the search, Melissa? What kind
20:19
Speaker 1: of search took place? Oh? They it was tremendous. I
20:25
Speaker 1: mean they did a massive search um and then you know,
20:30
Speaker 1: volunteers continued to search. We had a search center there
20:33
Speaker 1: in town for eight months where we had searches every weekend.
20:36
Speaker 1: That we're just volunteer civilian searches, but law enforcement have
20:41
Speaker 1: searched countless times. They brought in the prison crew from
20:46
Speaker 1: I want to cause Stafford Creek, but it's not Stafford Creek.
20:49
Speaker 1: It's one of the other local prisons. They brought in
20:52
Speaker 1: what they considered low risk prisoners UH to do ground
20:55
Speaker 1: clearing and stuff like that. On multiple occasion whenever they
21:00
Speaker 1: had big searches, they'd bring them in as well as
21:03
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Um. They had use of some high tech
21:08
Speaker 1: equipment from the FBI as well as obviously Seattle p D.
21:13
Speaker 1: And it was a huge, massive search. Melissa, have you
21:17
Speaker 1: felt in the time since Lindsey disappeared, have you ever
21:21
Speaker 1: felt that she has tried to contact you? Um? I
21:30
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like if she could, she would,
21:34
Speaker 1: but I don't really feel that she there. There's been
21:39
Speaker 1: like on some of the YouTube videos there there was, um,
21:44
Speaker 1: you know, different comments that made me wonder, oh, could
21:47
Speaker 1: that be Lindsay, you know, trying to hint to something
21:50
Speaker 1: or but again there's nothing. Do you believe that Lindsay
21:56
Speaker 1: is still alive? Yes? I do. And I know that
22:03
Speaker 1: that people may think that I'm naive or wishful thinking,
22:07
Speaker 1: and and that very well maybe true. I know the statistics,
22:11
Speaker 1: believe me, I know the statistics. But I also am
22:15
Speaker 1: her mother, and I just believe in my soul that
22:22
Speaker 1: she's still alive. Um, I always have. I've never I've
22:28
Speaker 1: never felt otherwise. I just I don't know. I think honestly,
22:35
Speaker 1: it could be anything, but I I can't help but
22:38
Speaker 1: think of it as something like a J. C. Dugard
22:40
Speaker 1: or Elizabeth Smart scenario. I don't know. I I don't
22:45
Speaker 1: wish were where the other human trafficking? What your working
22:48
Speaker 1: theory right now as to what happened to Lindsay? My
22:52
Speaker 1: own personal one, well, I believe it was either somebody
22:55
Speaker 1: she knew or believed she could trust, because she would
22:59
Speaker 1: not have gotten And Lindsay was very intelligent ten year old,
23:03
Speaker 1: like above average intelligence, and anybody that knew her will
23:06
Speaker 1: tell you that she was very sharp, very quick witted,
23:08
Speaker 1: very smart. Um, she would not have gotten into a
23:13
Speaker 1: vehicle with somebody she didn't know. The only way she
23:17
Speaker 1: would have gotten into a vehicle is if it was
23:20
Speaker 1: somebody she knew or thought she could trust, like you know,
23:23
Speaker 1: say the local policeman was saying, hey, Lindsay's gonna be ark,
23:26
Speaker 1: let me give you a ride home, or one of
23:27
Speaker 1: her friends father's you know, but they've all been looked at. Um,
23:31
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm just clueless because I just
23:36
Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know, they've never found any
23:40
Speaker 1: hint of her. There's been a a rumor circulating for
23:44
Speaker 1: the last few years, and and now they it's just
23:47
Speaker 1: the Westport myth. And it's always the same story. It
23:51
Speaker 1: changes only in people in vehicles. That a group of
23:55
Speaker 1: people were driving through town and they were high or
23:58
Speaker 1: they were drunk, and they hit her and then they
24:03
Speaker 1: cut her up and put her in a crab pot
24:05
Speaker 1: out at Westport off one of the fishing boats. That
24:08
Speaker 1: story has come around multiple times, like more times than
24:11
Speaker 1: I could count. Every time it was a different group
24:14
Speaker 1: of men. Uh, different kind of vehicle, different this, different that. UM.
24:19
Speaker 1: The FBI assured me that they had traced that story
24:22
Speaker 1: back to a drug dealer who had been arrested and
24:27
Speaker 1: who had made those claims trying to get his competition
24:32
Speaker 1: in trouble. UM. I was assured by the FBI that
24:36
Speaker 1: they sat down face to face he admitted to them
24:39
Speaker 1: making up the story. UM, and the they you know,
24:43
Speaker 1: informed him of you know, did you not think of
24:45
Speaker 1: what it would do to her family? Hearing this? And UM,
24:48
Speaker 1: but again the story keeps coming up. There's always some
24:51
Speaker 1: different version of the story. Why when that skull was
24:55
Speaker 1: down last year, that was a dream about Lindsay. Not
25:03
Speaker 1: so much anymore. Um, I don't really dream much anymore.
25:07
Speaker 1: If I do, I don't remember them. I rarely ever
25:11
Speaker 1: remember dreaming at all. I used to dream about her
25:14
Speaker 1: all the time, I will. I had nightmares for two
25:18
Speaker 1: or three years at least. I don't even They'd just
25:23
Speaker 1: be there. Was never the same one, just be random nightmares, um,
25:26
Speaker 1: just of her missing, you know, just different scenarios. But
25:30
Speaker 1: every dream I ever had of her, that that was
25:33
Speaker 1: the majority of my dreams, was of her coming home.
25:36
Speaker 1: Never in my dreams was she found, not alive. Every
25:39
Speaker 1: dream I've ever had of her was us being reunited,
25:42
Speaker 1: her being found. The night she disappeared, I was standing
25:47
Speaker 1: in my driveway. Law enforcement was out, and at that
25:50
Speaker 1: point they were having me stay close, and I had
25:53
Speaker 1: my cell phone, and I had Lindsay's cellphone and my
25:55
Speaker 1: house phone, and I'm standing at the end of my
25:57
Speaker 1: driveway looking down the street, thinking, oh my god, somebody
26:01
Speaker 1: really took my child. And I just heard this voice
26:04
Speaker 1: somewhere inside me say, Elizabeth Smart came home, Lindsay will too.
26:08
Speaker 1: And uh, I can't explain it. I can't explain. I'm
26:12
Speaker 1: not saying that was God speak to me. I don't
26:13
Speaker 1: know who it was. It was just I heard this,
26:16
Speaker 1: whether it be in my mind or wherever I heard
26:19
Speaker 1: this voice saying, Elizabeth Smart came home, Lindsay will too.
26:23
Speaker 1: And from that moment, I've I've never believed that she
26:26
Speaker 1: wouldn't come home. Do you remember the feeling. I mean,
26:31
Speaker 1: I would I believe that I would feel as if
26:34
Speaker 1: it weren't real, that it really couldn't possibly be true,
26:39
Speaker 1: that my child was really missing. M hmm. What were
26:43
Speaker 1: you thinking when all of this was happening. Honestly, that night,
26:48
Speaker 1: I kept thinking that she was just going to show
26:50
Speaker 1: back up, and that I was gonna get mad, Like
26:53
Speaker 1: I was gonna be so mad at her. I'm like,
26:54
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Am I gonna ground her?
26:56
Speaker 1: Am I gonna whip her? Like I'm I was at first, um,
26:59
Speaker 1: But then when it really hit me standing there at
27:01
Speaker 1: the end of my driveway that somebody took her, I
27:04
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I can't describe how I felt.
27:07
Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't breathe. It felt like all
27:11
Speaker 1: of the air was being sucked out of my lungs
27:12
Speaker 1: and I still feel that. Okay, if you've ever lost
27:16
Speaker 1: your child or lost sight of your child in a
27:17
Speaker 1: grocery store or a shopping mall, that panic feeling you get.
27:22
Speaker 1: I that's like a norm that's become a normal occurrence. Um,
27:28
Speaker 1: you forget how to breathe. And that sounds funny, but
27:31
Speaker 1: literally you just like I will find myself, especially thinking
27:35
Speaker 1: about Lindsay, like I realized I've been holding. Do you
27:37
Speaker 1: ever wake up or did you ever wake up in
27:42
Speaker 1: the mornings and you you think it didn't really it
27:46
Speaker 1: didn't happen, and then you realize it did happen. It's real. Yeah, Yeah,
27:53
Speaker 1: I realized it when I walk out my bedroom door
27:55
Speaker 1: and see the police tape overheard. I used to do that.
27:58
Speaker 1: I would wake up in the morning and think, if
28:01
Speaker 1: you think everything was fine, then it would hit me
28:03
Speaker 1: everything that had happened, that the crime really did happen.
28:09
Speaker 1: And then it's like you relive it over and over
28:12
Speaker 1: and over again. Every morning when you wake up, it's
28:15
Speaker 1: like it happens again. Yeah, and that continues. That really
28:19
Speaker 1: doesn't go away. It may not be every single morning,
28:23
Speaker 1: but there I never lay down at night without wondering
28:27
Speaker 1: or thinking I all day long, Lindsay probably comes into
28:30
Speaker 1: my mind a thousand times a day. What triggers it?
28:34
Speaker 1: Anything can trigger it? Anything. It can be something as
28:38
Speaker 1: simple as um, a little girl wearing her hair the
28:42
Speaker 1: way Lindsay wore hers, or just being in the store.
28:46
Speaker 1: I can hear a kid calling mom that might sound
28:49
Speaker 1: like Lindsay. Or I can see kids walking down the
28:52
Speaker 1: street and think, I wonder what Lindsay looks like now,
28:55
Speaker 1: or I mean, anything can trigger it. That that's the
28:58
Speaker 1: That's the thing, like I never know. I keep thinking, Okay,
29:01
Speaker 1: I know my triggers now, I can watch for them.
29:03
Speaker 1: But the next thing I know is something pops up. Um.
29:06
Speaker 1: If you're familiar with Walmart's UH code adam, I'm sure
29:10
Speaker 1: you are. They have a lost lost childcat Adam. There's
29:14
Speaker 1: been two or three code atoms in my Walmart that
29:18
Speaker 1: I've been there for, and they just one time in particular,
29:22
Speaker 1: I actually had to leave the store. I just kind
29:24
Speaker 1: of had a meltdown because I was standing there when
29:27
Speaker 1: the woman came to report that her child was missing,
29:30
Speaker 1: and she was so like panicked and hysterical, and of
29:34
Speaker 1: course we found him. He was a little it was
29:36
Speaker 1: a little like a he was four. Um, he was found.
29:39
Speaker 1: But it was that sheer panic on her face. It
29:41
Speaker 1: just I felt it for her, and it was like
29:43
Speaker 1: reliving it all over again. And I'm thinking, God, I
29:46
Speaker 1: know how she feels. I just my heart, you know,
29:49
Speaker 1: bled for her for that moment. If you could speak
29:52
Speaker 1: to Lindsay now, if she could hear your voice, what
29:57
Speaker 1: would you tell her that I love her and I
30:04
Speaker 1: want her home. I will never give up on her.
30:07
Speaker 1: I will always be waiting for her. Um. There's nothing
30:12
Speaker 1: that that should ever make her fear coming home, or
30:17
Speaker 1: nothing that she should be afraid of. UM if whoever
30:21
Speaker 1: has her is telling her they will hurt her or
30:23
Speaker 1: her family. She just needs to get home, She needs
30:26
Speaker 1: to get away and um, come home. We were We
30:31
Speaker 1: love her and we're waiting for her, and just hang on,
30:35
Speaker 1: just hang on. Amanda Barry makes me think of Lindsay
30:40
Speaker 1: a lot. When I heard her nine one one call,
30:43
Speaker 1: I just remember saying to my friend, that's Lindsay. Lindsey
30:46
Speaker 1: would do that with us today. Our sponts were simply safe.
30:49
Speaker 1: We've gotten this for a lady in our neighborhood, Miss
30:52
Speaker 1: Shirley Hey, who has been our lifelong friend, is the
30:55
Speaker 1: age of my mom. As a recent widow, she did
30:58
Speaker 1: not have an alarm system, and she's had some scary
31:02
Speaker 1: incidents just recently, and there have been some break ins
31:05
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, and I think about her being there
31:08
Speaker 1: alone without an alarm. My mom has an alarm. We
31:10
Speaker 1: have an alarm. But we got simply safe from Miss Shirley.
31:14
Speaker 1: And even I'm sleeping better. Much less you know her,
31:17
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31:21
Speaker 1: slash Nancy. You just can't be safe enough, That's what
31:25
Speaker 1: I think. Guys joining me. Melissa Bomb Lindsay's mother. Lindsay
31:32
Speaker 1: went missing at just ten years of age. She was
31:35
Speaker 1: about to turn eleven. It was a summer evening, it
31:41
Speaker 1: was still light outside, it had not even turned dark,
31:45
Speaker 1: and a town of less than fifteen hundred people early
31:48
Speaker 1: summer two thousand nine, five minutes from home. She never
31:54
Speaker 1: made it. If you know anything about the disappearance of
31:58
Speaker 1: Lindsay Bamb or you think you may know something, please
32:03
Speaker 1: contact authorities at three six zero two four nine three
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Speaker 1: seven one one. Thank you, friend,