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Ross Barkley's Covid 5K Scandal: Talking Lockdown Gym Stories With Cameraman Ben · Total Barnage

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SPEAKER_01: Look look at who we're bloody joined with today, hey?
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SPEAKER_01: Who is this guy?
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SPEAKER_02: Alright.
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SPEAKER_04: What a treat.
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SPEAKER_02: What a treat.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to Total Barnage.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to another episode.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm joined today with Oh, me, and the cameraman.
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SPEAKER_01: And Charlotte.
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SPEAKER_02: We were just chatting just before the episode started.
0:24
SPEAKER_02: We were talking.
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SPEAKER_02: So today is going to be a little throwback Thursday.
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SPEAKER_02: Little throwback video.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's going to be about you know COVID and training in COVID, our stories, our experiences, what crazy things some people did.
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SPEAKER_02: The rules.
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SPEAKER_01: Beloved videographer.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you guys.
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SPEAKER_02: Ben Benjamin Slade.
0:53
SPEAKER_04: First time on the podcast.
0:55
SPEAKER_02: It must be such an interesting thing.
0:56
SPEAKER_04: How does it feel sitting in the It feels odd because I'm usually behind the cameras, obviously watching you guys.
1:01
SPEAKER_04: So to be here is a bit, yeah, I don't know where to look.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: And are you nervous?
1:07
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:08
SPEAKER_04: I think it might as well look at whoever's talking and then go from there.
1:11
SPEAKER_04: But thank you for having me, guys.
1:12
SPEAKER_04: That's all right.
1:12
SPEAKER_04: That's a really welcome.
1:14
SPEAKER_04: It was last minute, but do you want to come on the podcast?
1:17
SPEAKER_04: And it's like, okay.
1:19
SPEAKER_04: I've been wanting to try it.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So thank you.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, here we go.
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SPEAKER_02: Straight, straight into it.
1:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, no, it's a good social cue.
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SPEAKER_02: Just look at who's ever, whoever's talking to you, and you can't go wrong.
1:29
SPEAKER_02: Thanks, mate.
1:29
SPEAKER_02: I will.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: Or just do what I do, and I just sometimes stare into the floor and nod my head.
1:36
SPEAKER_02: Right, should we get straight into it though?
1:37
SPEAKER_02: We'll see COVID, you know, now it's 2026.
1:40
SPEAKER_02: Um it is it was over six years ago now.
1:44
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: Around this time, six years ago, um, we would be a couple of weeks into the first lockdown.
1:51
SPEAKER_02: And I guess, well, should we go we'll go straight we'll go straight into it.
1:56
SPEAKER_02: The uh home workout setups lit.
2:00
SPEAKER_02: Charlotte.
2:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you've had you had a you know cool little home workout setup talk to us.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: They were the home workout setups, first of all, that I created, second of all, that I witnessed were mental, man.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Ben's gonna tell some great stories as well.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you've got a few, Charlie, but uh some of the stuff I did, like I was quite fortunate to be fair.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: So my mum already had a few kettlebells and stuff because she's just she's an almond mum, like she's always got she's always had a couple of ways.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: My mum's such an almond.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: She was literally eating a bag of almonds the other day.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: What's an almond mum?
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SPEAKER_01: Unsalted almonds, just nibbling on them.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Almond mums, like it's like a it's like a Gen Z term of like really healthy mums who like don't give their kids.
2:45
SPEAKER_04: What did you think it was, Ben?
2:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
2:48
SPEAKER_04: Like um like she's a bit nuttic dry.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: Dry woman.
2:54
SPEAKER_04: She's a nutty mum.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, she is a bit nuts as well, she's crazy.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: But um no, she's just a healthy like she used to literally give us like cottage cheese and stuff when we were younger.
3:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, all the kids would get like nature nature valley bars as their their break time snack, and we'd be getting like bruised bananas for our break snack and a the banana guard.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: I was very healthy, and actually, you know, bless her, it's probably made me a bit healthier these days.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yes, I where do I start?
3:26
SPEAKER_01: I spent about 300 quid on my student loan on overpriced gym equipment, but that also includes dumbbells that one of my mates at uni was making out of cement and pipes.
3:39
SPEAKER_01: Um how did they have the resources for cement?
3:41
SPEAKER_01: Cement dumbbells.
3:42
SPEAKER_01: Bro was just getting creative and he made some profit, I'll tell you that.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: Like I remember him selling them on his like putting them on his story.
3:49
SPEAKER_01: My housemates hated me because the cement would like draw in the water and then they'd get the salt on it, and they'd be they'd I'd keep them in the living room.
3:57
SPEAKER_01: But like, if I couldn't work out, like it was fine, my setup at home was fine, like I had kettlebells and stuff, but I couldn't take them to uni really because mum needed to use them.
4:06
SPEAKER_01: So if I was coming to uni, you know, I needed equipment.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: I bought two 24 kg kettlebells off um Facebook Marketplace.
4:12
SPEAKER_01: Some how much it costs you?
4:14
SPEAKER_01: That was like 120 quid.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: Then I spent about 130 quid on a barbell, which was a pretty crap, I've still got it, it's a pretty crap barbell.
4:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, you've got to do what you gotta do.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: Then two 25 kg plates, it's probably over 300 quid plus the plus the dumbbells, which I probably spent about 80 quid on.
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SPEAKER_01: Easily cement dumbbells as well.
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SPEAKER_01: 80 quid.
4:35
SPEAKER_01: Why'd I do that?
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SPEAKER_04: Cement dumbbells.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: Do you still have them?
4:39
SPEAKER_01: I think we checked them.
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SPEAKER_01: I've still got plates.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: I know I should have.
4:43
SPEAKER_01: Framed them.
4:43
SPEAKER_01: My mother hated them.
4:45
SPEAKER_01: Heavy frame, heavy frame.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: Hated them, heavy frame.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: Mum hated them.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: Um I'd also use my lifting straps to hold kettlebells together.
4:54
SPEAKER_01: So I'd you like double up the kettlebells and just like my hand was like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Just so I was lifting more weight.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: I added kettlebells on the end of my barbell because I had two 25 kg plates, but obviously.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: You're like, there's a video.
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SPEAKER_01: I bet you've got the list goes on.
5:10
SPEAKER_02: There's a guy who's training for what they call, you know, badminton.
5:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:14
SPEAKER_02: And uh it's it's basically a guy in his basement that just loads up his barbell and will deadlift literally anything.
5:22
SPEAKER_02: So it might be like chains, he'd be standing on like a skateboard, he'd be balancing on something, he'd do like a Zurch at the score.
5:30
SPEAKER_04: COVID.
5:31
SPEAKER_04: This is August.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a normal thing.
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SPEAKER_01: This has come out of COVID.
5:34
SPEAKER_01: This is still doing it.
5:35
SPEAKER_04: I think it's still doing it.
5:38
SPEAKER_04: Maybe he's still doing it.
5:40
SPEAKER_02: It probably is.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's lifting a lot, and it just looks like have you not got anything you know normal to do?
5:47
SPEAKER_01: So crazy.
5:49
SPEAKER_01: So crazy.
5:50
SPEAKER_02: What sort of workouts were you doing then?
5:51
SPEAKER_02: What's were you just were you training normally, but just with like obscure?
5:54
SPEAKER_01: You know what, as I said, like I mean, as I said, as I said, but I'm sure as some people know, like I've been training for quite a long time anyway.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: So I started training when I was 15, so I kind of was already set in like resistance training, right?
6:06
SPEAKER_01: But I did like kind of functional fitness-y stuff, and it definitely COVID, I don't know about you guys, but I feel like COVID definitely brought in like the hit, the high-intensity interval training, boom.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: Like Joe Wicks was just absolutely raking it in.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: And there was also this girl called Chloe Ting, who I know I actually never followed her workouts, but she had loads of workouts on YouTube, like get abs in two weeks, and I had loads of mates who would follow that.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I mean, I I I also you I made a squat rack out of like my kitchen stools.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: Um crazy, and then some then some illegal stuff, which uh that sounds wild.
6:44
SPEAKER_02: It sounds like breaking bad.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: Sounds like breaking bad.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: No, I just I when I was at uni, there I was friends with this PT from my uni gym, and he just knew other PTs and fitness people around the area, right?
6:56
SPEAKER_01: Because he lived there.
6:57
SPEAKER_01: And there was one time where we went to so there's the there was this guy in Leicester who had made this massive home gym pre-lockdown.
7:04
SPEAKER_01: But he spent like over a like a million quid on it, like literally spent so much money on it.
7:09
SPEAKER_02: He gets about six dumbbells.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it can't be million, that sounds mental.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of money.
7:14
SPEAKER_01: Hundred thousand, quite a couple hundred thousand.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, because it was a really, really good like out like what's it called?
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SPEAKER_01: Setup.
7:22
SPEAKER_01: Home gym setup.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like it was big.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: Um and he was charging people to come and use it.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: And we went and literally still law the day we went and tried when to use it, the police turned up.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we went to another one as well.
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SPEAKER_01: There was another one that my friend Sabi, like he knew another guy who had a little home gym set up, and we did that, and then again, like we had to get it.
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SPEAKER_04: So, what happened when the police turned up?
7:46
SPEAKER_01: Rule breaking.
7:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, we went so the guy told us he rushed and grabbed us from the gym and we went inside the house because the police didn't like they couldn't come inside the house.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, and he was just chatting to them.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, of course.
7:57
SPEAKER_01: And uh was like saying that no one was in there, but we were literally in the gym, and I was literally like my heart, I was like I was like, Oh my god, I'm literally a uni student, what the hell am I doing?
8:05
SPEAKER_01: It's one of those like literally what the hell am I doing members, but that's like the desperation that I had because I just missed the gym so much, it was horrible.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: Like people were going pretty insane, to be fair.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: Like I love other bits of training, but like that's where like I just wish I was like a runner, where that was like my sole purpose of like training because I just feel like that was like or like a cyclist.
8:28
SPEAKER_02: Ben, you're you're saying that you were you worked in a a bike warehouse.
8:32
SPEAKER_04: I did, I worked for a bicycle company, White Bikes, and basically when COVID happened, all three warehouses were completely empty, all the bikes sold.
8:43
SPEAKER_04: Um how quickly did they sell out?
8:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a real I'm trying to remember now because obviously the first lockdown.
8:49
SPEAKER_04: Um because I was I fortunate enough to my life was was still pretty um normal because I believe old Boris um uh uh let you know bicycles and companies still run, so I was still going into work every day.
9:04
SPEAKER_04: He did love his bikes.
9:05
SPEAKER_04: Sorry?
9:06
SPEAKER_04: He did love his bikes.
9:09
SPEAKER_04: Still does, who knows?
9:10
SPEAKER_04: And um and um it was probably uh I couldn't I couldn't tell you.
9:16
SPEAKER_04: I mean, maybe like a month or two.
9:17
SPEAKER_04: I mean, they were going fast.
9:18
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we're all just like staying a little bit later to load up, and um yeah, all the bikes were going to the shops and getting sold quickly.
9:26
SPEAKER_04: See the all three warehouses were really empty.
9:29
SPEAKER_04: I've never seen that before.
9:30
SPEAKER_04: Um no, you could not get a bike.
9:32
SPEAKER_04: Even I couldn't get a bike.
9:34
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you sold your bike.
9:36
SPEAKER_04: I think even the display ones, the XW thing bikes, um, it was it was it was a crazy time.
9:43
SPEAKER_04: Um but what's funny, just jumping forward now, of course, when you go to the um you know you go to the tip uh for example, like I did recently, and there's loads of bikes there.
9:53
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like during lockdown you could not get one.
9:55
SPEAKER_04: So that's um I did think about that recently.
9:57
SPEAKER_04: I thought wow.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: I wonder if people were going to the tips in lockdown to just see what they could find.
10:03
SPEAKER_01: Were you able to go to the tip in lockdown?
10:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean probably illegally, right?
10:07
SPEAKER_04: You I don't know, I wasn't there.
10:10
SPEAKER_04: But anyway, no, bikes were yeah, bikes were selling fast because um I don't know when you were allowed to go out cycling, but I saw I suddenly saw, don't you guys remember, suddenly saw a lot of um cyclists out more than ever.
10:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
10:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
10:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, I remember mates like that were running and maybe even cycling up in London, and it was just a ghost town.
10:30
SPEAKER_02: Like they could run through Central, so crazy.
10:32
SPEAKER_04: And it's just like apocalyptic kind of I really wanted to go to I mean, I know it wouldn't have been worth it or kind of impossible, but I would love to have gone to London or uh a town just to see how empty it is.
10:47
SPEAKER_04: Um that does lead me on to something else that I've just remembered.
10:51
SPEAKER_04: Sorry to interrupt.
10:51
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
10:52
SPEAKER_04: Um I remember when lockdown actually happened the weekend before I went to London with my now wife, and we saw Hamilton.
11:02
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, and we and um it was a bit of a funny-ish kind of time because I thought we were gonna have to cancel our tickets.
11:09
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it was just a rumour that this virus was, oh, you know, didn't really believe in it to begin with.
11:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I'm sure it will phase out, phase out, but it didn't, and it just a Chinese virus, yeah.
11:20
SPEAKER_04: It kept on coming, and um, you know, like uh World War Z.
11:25
SPEAKER_04: And um so we went and there was nothing in place.
11:28
SPEAKER_04: The trains were actually, I think, were they busy?
11:32
SPEAKER_04: I think they were busy because everyone maybe thought it was gonna happen, it's gonna happen soon.
11:35
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I remember that the weekend before, and then bam, gone.
11:39
SPEAKER_04: So really crazy.
11:41
SPEAKER_04: Unlucky Mice could be Hamilton before then, huh?
11:42
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I know.
11:43
SPEAKER_04: It's a good it's a great show if you haven't seen it.
11:45
SPEAKER_04: I haven't seen it.
11:46
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
11:47
SPEAKER_04: I haven't even seen anything.
11:50
SPEAKER_04: Not a musical lover.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: No, one of my uh PT clients, um, hates Mark Chapman.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: He nick my nickname from him is uh Cultural Wasteland.
12:00
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
12:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm obviously upset.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: She says Chuckles, you're a cultural wasteland.
12:05
SPEAKER_01: They call you chuckles.
12:06
SPEAKER_02: And I say thanks, Mark, it's you know really nice coming from you.
12:10
SPEAKER_04: So you were at uni during lockdown.
12:13
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, same same with Chuckles.
12:15
SPEAKER_02: And you were starting to I was in my gap year.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: Where were you?
12:18
SPEAKER_02: And then and then lockdown hit March, and then I went to uni in September.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I was blessed to be fair, because my so lockdown was my first year at uni, so I took a gap year and then my first year at uni, lockdown started.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: But I had some friends that I made in my first year who were in their third year, and the third year was literally just lockdown.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, can you imagine how crap that'd be?
12:40
SPEAKER_01: Awful.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, like I ended up in my first year, I ended up coming home in like March because I was like I was worried that we weren't gonna be able to go if we went into lockdown, and I was like, I cannot be in lockdown, just stuck.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: Because I in my I in my accommodation I had a studio that I didn't share with other people because I was too late to do that organization, find a boss.
13:01
SPEAKER_01: Um so I was like basically gonna be living on my own, like if that was the case, and I was like, I need to get home.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: So I just I just went home in March, and then remember coming back and uh I was at the time living in the house with my mum, my eldest brother, and his girlfriend Pip, who is a nurse as well.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: And my mum was so pessimistic, like she literally thought she was gonna die, man.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: She was like Yeah, and I well I mean to be fair, the news like it was like absolutely everywhere.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: It was it was scary, and I you know, I know I know people who did like lose their parents in COVID, it's horrible.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: Like some it like it was one of it's just one of those viruses that you just don't know how your body's gonna deal with it as well.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: And I think at the time where we didn't have any vaccinations and stuff, people were just like their bodies just couldn't deal with it at all, especially if you were like ill already.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Um so it's really really sad, but yeah.
13:48
SPEAKER_04: That was the biggest thing I think if you were um ill already or someone with um health um problems, then um then yeah, it was just scary because I think because no one no one really knew did they what what what's gonna happen and what's gonna happen to you if you get it and um and yeah and so on, but at least you got home.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, what I was gonna say as well, and I talk about with COVID, so I really feel like COVID, I feel like it was like the catalyst of like the online fitness community, like it was already a big place prior, but I feel like it really spurred a lot of people to get A to get fitter and B to utilise online platforms to kind of either find workouts or find online coaching.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: I feel like that really kind of kickstarted online coaching properly as well.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, and there was a really funny story.
14:43
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna I was meant to say this earlier about like home workout setups, but um one of the there was this there's this coaching, I'm sure it's called Harry Gripper, lovely, lovely boy.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: And I Harry's a good guy.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: Harry is a good guy, fantastic runner as well.
14:56
SPEAKER_01: But he was doing online coaching classes.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: I remember this video specifically of him doing a devil's press, which for those of you who don't know what a devil's press is, it's a burpee, but you use dumbbells and you go down and then you come up and you push the dumbbells in the air.
15:12
SPEAKER_01: He's doing like an online class for people to follow along, and he pushes his dumbbell in the air and just smashes a light bulb in his room.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: And I think I think he'd like knocked there's a few other what like funny ones where he'd like knocked his head and stuff, but I just remember, yeah, it it kind of did he post that?
15:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: He put ages ago he shared kind of like loads of bloopers of him when he was lifting, and that was just one of them.
15:33
SPEAKER_01: But I remember when it actually happened as well, and it was so funny.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I I definitely think it was if there was one good thing to come out of COVID for the fitness industry, is that I feel like it helped expand coaching um beyond just face-to-face, um, which is pretty cool.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: What's the same with your like all all work really now?
15:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like yeah, work work from home, out of the office, like people haven't really returned to, even though they can, they haven't returned to like being in the office five days a week.
16:09
SPEAKER_04: So um in the office three times a week and and um and then at home the other which happened to me as well.
16:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Um hundred percent.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: But it's yeah, it's I and I guess because that this is what I'm interested to hear from I guess you two both is you were into the gym during like and pre-COVID.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: I pretty much like I've never been on haven't been on the algorithms or following any fitness accounts until like recently, until the last couple of years.
16:39
SPEAKER_02: Um I never really saw any of the online like the home workouts.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: I just I just don't remember that even being something that I did.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: Like I had a few weights and stuff at home, and I would do maybe you know, as many walking lunges as I can until I couldn't do any more kind of thing.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: Or just like going out on really long runs.
16:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: Um and but I I would never like follow along to a I don't know, a Joe Wicks or a I don't know, I don't know who even else is in the functional fitness final bosses of the of the online world.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, what was what was it like all of the like the mess the messaging, like what were some of the craziest things that people started uh saying that you like you should be doing during COVID?
17:24
SPEAKER_04: I'm just trying to remember.
17:26
SPEAKER_04: Um all I know is that Zoom really took off online um video calls and um I know people were doing um you know, still doing their fitness classes with their coaches from gyms at home.
17:39
SPEAKER_04: That was a real big thing.
17:41
SPEAKER_04: Again, my wife did that.
17:42
SPEAKER_04: I joined in once or twice, I was like, oh it was fun.
17:47
SPEAKER_04: Reluctantly.
17:47
SPEAKER_04: Reluctantly.
17:48
SPEAKER_04: So I've got nothing else to do.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: I think I definitely found kind of working out at home so much more difficult to stay motivated.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: Like you had to really have that discipline in place, I feel, to like do it.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: Because it's just like you're in this one small area, whereas in the gym you've got I don't know if that's just the way my brain works.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: What what do you think, Ben?
18:08
SPEAKER_04: Well, it's a bit different because um I was very lucky because um very similar setup to to Worm and to Guy, but I was living in an annex, not a barn.
18:19
SPEAKER_04: It could have been a barn, and um so I was upstairs and um it's a it's an annex, but it's it's technically a coach house, yeah.
18:27
SPEAKER_04: So you can drive, not that you'd want to, but you could drive a coach through the middle, and on one side um there's two small uh garages.
18:34
SPEAKER_04: They're not, I mean they'd be big enough to probably fit a smart a little smart car in one of them.
18:39
SPEAKER_04: And I had a gym down there, but I had to buy everything like everything like everyone else.
18:43
SPEAKER_04: And um as I was just saying um uh before we started, that um um a friend of mine at the time wanted to come and live with me because he didn't know what to what to do, and I maybe didn't want to be alone.
18:55
SPEAKER_04: And we jumped in his van and went to Finna Superstore in Tunwood Wells in the intention of buying everything they had, and we thought we you know no no one else would um had this idea.
19:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh boy, we were wrong.
19:07
SPEAKER_04: And um, there was a queue coming outside, and we walked away with I think two or three resistance bands.
19:14
SPEAKER_04: So depressing man.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: Some um uh barbell clips, and that place has literally got um, and then that was it.
19:20
SPEAKER_04: Um they didn't they didn't have anything else, so I spent um um I think I money-wise, I think I spent about three grand buying everything from various websites.
19:30
SPEAKER_04: So I said Wish was one of them, had some dumbbells that came.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: I had a um I was pretty impressive that you can get them from the Wish.
19:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean they weren't that good, but yeah, oh yeah, and um a um a bench that came, but the bench um failed us once when um it just went click and then um kind of fell apart, but it was fine.
19:47
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
19:48
SPEAKER_04: And uh was it fine?
19:50
SPEAKER_04: I mean I threw it away, but it was but it it did it did what it needed to do, is what I like to say.
19:56
SPEAKER_04: It had um so I was trying to think, well, I got so then I got so then I got a new one from actually the fitness superstore.
20:02
SPEAKER_04: It was a long order, but I managed to to get one and I had um a barbell that said two sets of dumbbells were hay.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: And um you got the rogue barbell, didn't you?
20:11
SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes.
20:12
SPEAKER_04: Um so I found that rogue over in the US, they were um they were still very much active because I don't think COVID hit America just yet.
20:22
SPEAKER_04: And um, so I at great expense ordered um yeah two two 20 kilo dumper plates.
20:28
SPEAKER_04: Dumper?
20:29
SPEAKER_04: Dump bumper, not a dump platform.
20:30
SPEAKER_04: Dump truck plates, dump trucks, dump trust.
20:32
SPEAKER_04: I ordered a dump truck, two 20 kilo um bumper plates and a very nice rogue um bar because at the time I was very heavily into CrossFit and their bars um it had it had a whip to it for doing cleans.
20:47
SPEAKER_04: Um so I felt pretty good.
20:49
SPEAKER_04: I got all this stuff.
20:50
SPEAKER_04: Oh yes, and I also had a treadmill, but it only went up to um the 12 of sorry, a speed of 12.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: And like a walking pad situation.
20:58
SPEAKER_04: It's like a walk but not a jog, and um but and it was tiny, but that was yeah, but it was getting such good fun.
21:04
SPEAKER_04: But I had a PT at the time before COVID um happened.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: Um, shout out to Hayden Rolf, and um who who was brilliant, and he um would he used to come over when you were allowed to I think have what was it?
21:18
SPEAKER_04: I think you were allowed to have someone calm that be outside.
21:24
SPEAKER_04: Do you remember?
21:25
SPEAKER_04: So there was, I mean, I think we might have exchanged elbows, but maybe but maybe we didn't because that was the sum, well that was the the year that there was a brilliant summer, and it started really early, like in March.
21:38
SPEAKER_04: And um, so we train outside.
21:41
SPEAKER_04: So um, and I got the best shape I ever been.
21:44
SPEAKER_04: Plus, my friend who I was living with, all we did was train, have protein shakes, eat halo ice cream.
21:52
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's lovely.
21:53
SPEAKER_04: And what Stranger Things.
21:54
SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, and and I was going to work every day, and so um, I know other people must have had a Horrible time, and they'd probably rather forget about it.
22:02
SPEAKER_04: Not you though.
22:03
SPEAKER_04: But well, I was very, I was very lucky.
22:05
SPEAKER_04: I was very lucky because my life was pretty was very normal.
22:07
SPEAKER_04: I didn't I didn't lose my job.
22:09
SPEAKER_04: I went to work every day, um, getting rid of all these bikes and um and then training and um watching Netflix and uh with with a friend.
22:18
SPEAKER_04: So it was yeah, I had a had a pretty good time, but um obviously going back to your question, I I don't remember.
22:26
SPEAKER_04: I mean I I just don't I all I remember seeing on on social media were were celebrities saying how tough and how hard it was in their mansions by their pools.
22:36
SPEAKER_04: So shout out to all of you guys, and it's like yeah, I'm sure.
22:40
SPEAKER_04: And um 30-person households, yeah, exactly.
22:45
SPEAKER_04: Their butlers, and their butlers and cooks probably could stay, literally living in a resort, but um it was my I I saw it as well, there was nothing else to do, so I might as well train and eat well, and buying food was limited.
22:57
SPEAKER_04: Um so I got into the best shape of my life.
23:00
SPEAKER_04: I think I got down to um 79 kilos, I think, or 80, yeah.
23:08
SPEAKER_04: Hard to believe.
23:09
SPEAKER_04: Where are you at now?
23:10
SPEAKER_04: Oh I measured myself, measured, I weighed myself the other day, and I thought I was over a hundred.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_04: I'm not.
23:18
SPEAKER_04: I'm done 98.
23:21
SPEAKER_04: 112.
23:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm over 110.
23:24
SPEAKER_04: I'm 110 kilos.
23:27
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, no, I it was yeah, it was it was a it was a good time for for for fitness-wise, because I was um um pretty damn lean.
23:34
SPEAKER_04: You were good, and I was and I was and I was strong, which is exactly what I um um I think I think looks awesome for me.
23:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but um no, it was it was a really funny time, but I think that's why people probably were buying loads of bikes and um and and really got into walking and running because there wasn't anything else to do.
23:52
SPEAKER_04: Um is that that's not how you're how your running um journey career passed, was it?
23:59
SPEAKER_02: Not quite.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: No.
24:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's probably certain aspects of it, which is like um I started taking my running a little bit more seriously that year, yeah, and then I just was running so much, and actually I wasn't doing the intense stuff that would get me injured, that I was able to withstand doing 65 miles a week without any issue.
24:21
SPEAKER_02: And then we had a couple of races towards the back end of the season in like September, where I had three races within five days, and I managed to run my fastest time in each one of them.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: Damn, Daniel.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: But I just chuck I just chucked in a podcast.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: I was listening to these podcasts called iHeartRadio, the iHeart Podcasts.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I've heard of that one.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: It was just like it's two, it was just two blokes chatting about inventions of like anything, and they talked about the history of all these inventions, like the invention of ketchup, and you know, the invention of bread and how it was an accident.
24:54
SPEAKER_02: Come on, talk about ketchup.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: How did they invent ketchup?
24:57
SPEAKER_04: I think that's when that's when podcasts really took off as well, wasn't it?
25:01
SPEAKER_04: Because then again, people at home, well, let's start a podcast.
25:04
SPEAKER_04: Um background noise, isn't it?
25:06
SPEAKER_04: Sorry?
25:06
SPEAKER_01: Background noise.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: Background noise, just having a podcast on, is that background noise, isn't it?
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I'm just making a joke.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh I like having our podcast on as background noise.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, true.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: Who's that?
25:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh, who's that drony on again?
25:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh it's me.
25:25
SPEAKER_04: I've got a question for both of you.
25:27
SPEAKER_04: Do you guys remember doing any quizzes?
25:30
SPEAKER_04: Oh, so many because I we did we did quite we did quite a few.
25:34
SPEAKER_04: Everyone you would there'd be a group of you, wouldn't there?
25:37
SPEAKER_04: And you would all take it in turns either by yourself or with your couple, and you do um quizzes.
25:42
SPEAKER_04: Do you remember those?
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, quizzes.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: We had we had full kind of like um I think every week we had a different person in our friendship group.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: There's like eight or ten of us, and on Zoom, we would have one person create the quiz, and then the others, um and actually we'd we'd drink so much in our own homes.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: Like I had my birthday in the first lockdown like my 19th, and I'm I've sat there, um hammered, and it's like really all fun and games when you're doing the quiz.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: Then you get up, then you log off and you leave, and I'm like, oh, what do I do now?
26:16
SPEAKER_04: Oh, right and wide, yeah.
26:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think um I think I drank a bit during lockdown as well.
26:27
SPEAKER_04: I've got actually this has triggered a really lovely memory.
26:29
SPEAKER_04: I again I I take it this is probably when people could kind of interact, but from a distance.
26:35
SPEAKER_04: But I drove past um a pub and obviously it was very closed, very closed, it was closed, and then drove down.
26:42
SPEAKER_04: And um there were people from a from a kind of a uh a distance all all drinking, and um they're not having a lovely time.
26:52
SPEAKER_04: I think I rolled down the window and said, Oh, you're having having a nice time, are we?
26:55
SPEAKER_04: It was like, No, I'm not I'm not the police or anything.
26:57
SPEAKER_04: It's um exactly what understanding.
27:03
SPEAKER_04: I'll say nothing if I can take that bottle off you.
27:05
SPEAKER_04: But um it's um that but that that was so sweet.
27:08
SPEAKER_04: Again, it was the it was the summer of his little the the country and everything else, and just seeing people um interact again from again from a distance, but just yeah, having having a drink as they would be in the pub down the road and they were I think it arguably made some people better at socialising and also enjoying not using the pub as a sole way to socialise.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Socialise, does that make sense?
27:38
SPEAKER_01: I I think I um like I I've never been someone who's just got been like I'm gonna go to the pub and just sit with my mates, drink a couple of mixes.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: I I've never really enjoyed just sitting at the pub.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Um if I'm having a lovely roast dinner or something, 10 out of 10, yeah, get me there.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: But I my ideal Friday night is not going to the pub to sit and drink crappy mixes.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: And so I really, really enjoyed it when you know we couldn't go to pub, but we could go and sit outside with like a group of up to 10 people, and I'd go and sit on the Tumble Drills Common with a group of mates, and it was so nice.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: We'd have a big speaker, just listening to music, some of us would be drinking, but like just chilling and like being able to sit around.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: It was like so much nicer than that, especially in the summer, because people go to pubs and they just sit like sometimes they'll just be sat inside.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: It's like come and enjoy the nice weather.
28:24
SPEAKER_04: You've got lighter evenings and stuff, and yeah, I just remember it being very, very sociable because you knew that you were limited on how many people who you could see.
28:33
SPEAKER_04: So when you saw them, you were on form.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: Really, really made the most out of it, yeah, for sure.
28:38
SPEAKER_04: No, definitely.
28:39
SPEAKER_04: For sure, for sure.
28:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't know how gyms managed.
28:42
SPEAKER_04: I think I used to hear that the gyms used to rent out actually, yeah.
28:46
SPEAKER_04: I think there was someone I knew, I think he he wasn't a gym owner, but he was a PT, and he and he he he did okay because he he he rented all of his equipment out from rowing machines, again dumbbells, kettlebells, um probably a a ski erg.
29:01
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how much you love a ski erg, um only now, not back in the day.
29:05
SPEAKER_04: And um so he so he did quite he did quite well out of it.
29:08
SPEAKER_04: Um I I remember on eBay someone was selling his his gym equipment and it looked terrible, like shot to hell for five bidding for five thousand and it was just a bench and um and some and some obviously plates and a bar, and that was it.
29:23
SPEAKER_04: People would definitely disappear, so obviously someone brought it.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, remember I think it was Hay Halo gym and Tommy Joel's, I think it was Halo, let their members and some of the PTs like use the equipment so you could come and take it as like as long as you were known to take home.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think you'd take home or train outside.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: I think that's Harry.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure Harry Grippo was using some of their bringing it up again.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: I think he was using some of their stuff, but that was really cool.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: That's why I was really jealous because I was at Pure Gym at the time and I obviously it's a massive like commercial gym.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Sweat first.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like well, there's no no no one can take any of those equipment.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: Whereas at a Cat Halo is like a smaller kind of independent gym.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: It was nice.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: Um no care for the fans and the members.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: No care for the fans and members.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: But in gyms, I remember like they they actually had tape to call and off around everything.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: So like you weren't allowed two people within that space, and like you were just in your own sort of thing.
30:21
SPEAKER_04: You had to book to go to the gym, and then I don't know how you I suppose you had to pick a space.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: We're only allowed two hour slots as well.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you only have a maximum two hours, and I say for long time.
30:32
SPEAKER_04: And then pick your then pick your square and you stay there.
30:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
30:35
SPEAKER_04: If you want to go and work on that, no, not stay in that bloody.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: And you just have to wear your and you'd have to wear your mask, didn't you?
30:41
SPEAKER_01: Like from a walking to piece of equipment.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: But then, you know, as soon as you're doing a set and you're huffing and puffing, you can take your mask off.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: Verse logic there.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Also, loved the eat out to help out filling up pubs with people, and then the gyms were still closed when you know that's probably one of the best things that you could be doing in lockdown, like staying healthy.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh god, it was so that that really grinded my gears.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, you're gonna go and let people drink loads of alcohol and put their immune like compromise their immune system, but you can't keep the gyms open there.
31:12
SPEAKER_04: Sorry, um isn't it isn't it slightly different though, because you've got people sitting down over here, they're not heavily breathing, they're not sweating, sure.
31:22
SPEAKER_04: Massive plastic screens.
31:24
SPEAKER_04: But think about screens were better.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Isn't that is so I I kind of get it why I think it it bothered me more so with like the pubs and stuff, because obviously when people get drunk, you start to not worry about those little squares that you need to stay in.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: And like think at the gyms, you know, you had to spray down.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's definitely we were talking about earlier, kind of the spurring of like keeping gym equipment clean now, but like everybody was spray spraying down the gym equipment if you like were caught not spraying it, like you were a bit of a knob, right?
31:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you people would stare at you saying, Are you gonna you know you're gonna spray that down?
32:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think a lot of the gyms also like all of the staff were going around and cleaning stuff consistently.
32:05
SPEAKER_01: A lot of them would have like the windows and stuff open as well to get ventilation in.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: So I just feel like it was a little bit backwards that like I get that we needed to like fuel the economy, but also like I don't know, I I I I was I think it was more of like from a selfish standpoint, right?
32:20
SPEAKER_01: Like I just hated that I couldn't train, but people were allowed to go and drink and stuff, like grind like gears.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fair.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean it's it's uh you know the social side's so massive that it's just making a compromise, and then I mean we had off because I joined started uni like six months in like September 2020, we had our freshest week and we had households, right?
32:45
SPEAKER_02: So we weren't allowed to mix.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: So our floor, we had 16 of us, that was our household, which is great to be fair.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: Like it's enough people to search.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: In our bubble bubble, yeah.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it, your bubble.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: But then literally the first night, everyone was out on the middle of the lawn, and there's like a hundred people that are just mixing.
33:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was nuts.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: It was nuts, yeah, yeah.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, lo and behold.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean every everyone was down there.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: Everyone was down there.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: Is that you then?
33:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I just said everyone was down there, you know.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: It was really hard not to be down there.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: Were you down there?
33:18
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't waving everyone to come over, all right.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: Were you in the square of all people, child?
33:24
SPEAKER_02: I was within my bubble who were popping other people's bubbles.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: You're a bubble popper.
33:30
SPEAKER_04: I thought you'd be up by the window shouting down saying, you know, you're not supposed to be doing that.
33:34
SPEAKER_04: Stop it.
33:35
SPEAKER_04: Get back in your household.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, then we got COVID.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: So um we were then we were locked down for ten days a week into uni.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: That was peak.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, all sixteen of us.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: I lost my sense of taste and my sense of smell.
33:48
SPEAKER_02: I lost it for s over six months, I think.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Maybe nine months.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Long COVID.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: And your sense of sense of joy.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: Sense of joy was still there.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh my sense of joy was good.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: But then Eat Out to Help Out was like the day once we had our lockdown for two weeks, like our little like mini lockdown uh quarantine.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Then we went to Spoons and it was like doom bars were 99p.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Just go there.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: You know what was really a silly thing?
34:18
SPEAKER_01: The NHS.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: So the NHS app, the COVID app that we had, right?
34:24
SPEAKER_01: And it had that detector of you walking past someone who'd recently been diagnosed with or like had to, if you got COVID, right, you have to put it on the app.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: And I remember because I in my second year at uni, one of my lovely housemates had Crohn's, so we had to be really, really careful.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: And you know, if we got one of those notifications on the app, you've walked past someone with COVID, you need to our household, you have to isolate for two weeks, yeah, and we had to do it every single time because we had to make sure that we were really careful with Amy because we didn't know how to get ill, but like that was a crazy concept.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: That app because you could have like walked past someone in a car park where you did not like breathe in their germs, you know, but and that was just mental.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think yeah, we had the exact same thing.
35:09
SPEAKER_02: It was like we were we were locked down three times in that year at uni.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: We had to have three times because at three different occasions one of us was had caught COVID or been with someone that had COVID, and the third time it was in June, the end of our first year.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, we'd already a lot of us already gone back home after Christmas because it was like another lockdown or whatever.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: And a few of us came back because we made a decision, we were like, you know, if there are more than eight of us that decide to come back, it's enough for like it to be worth it.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: And then I remember in June, the day before our like final, like our summer ball, one of the girls out of the 16 got COVID and everyone took a test, and everyone else was negative, but we all had to isolate, and we were watching down whilst everyone was gathering.
35:56
SPEAKER_02: This was the point where we sat there and we were just like, Yeah, they look like they're having fun, all dressed nice and going off to the ball.
36:02
SPEAKER_04: Even though you were uh testing negative, you still couldn't go.
36:05
SPEAKER_04: Still couldn't go.
36:06
SPEAKER_04: That actually sucks.
36:08
SPEAKER_04: I think I I did um because we um we got a bunch of uh COVID kits for work, and um I can't remember if the idea was to do every day or because I think they were free, weren't they?
36:22
SPEAKER_04: I think you could you could you could get them and then after you're gonna be able to do order them online, couldn't you?
36:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and um so I did do the test a bunch of times and um I think I only got COVID once or twice, but I didn't know I had COVID, so I was very lucky.
36:36
SPEAKER_04: I didn't I didn't get the the long COVID like your like your good self, that sounds horrible.
36:40
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I had to I can't remember what the i i isolating was then, but I think I did a w a week or two, then then then it went it went away.
36:47
SPEAKER_04: But it's still it's still around now, isn't it?
36:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean you can still coach Yeah, I'll just people don't test for it.
36:53
SPEAKER_04: People think, oh, I just had a flu.
36:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I just had a exactly I've just had like a long, a long um flu.
36:59
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I think fitness-wise, um that's when yeah, the online thing must have really taken off.
37:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:05
SPEAKER_04: Um showing that yeah, you can you can um get your your programs and find your coaches all all online.
37:12
SPEAKER_04: Um I was gonna say, is that what boosted you guys?
37:17
SPEAKER_04: But I guess you were still at uni, so probably not.
37:19
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: I think I think I mean guy Barn, Jim, kind of kicked off from COVID.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: It happened during COVID, didn't it?
37:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: He was coaching at I uh Risebridge.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sounds like Risebridge at the time, and obviously that closed down.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh and then he had the barn and he had some equipment there, and then he was doing kind of like online coaching sessions, and I think he just started to build up and thought, you know what, let me make a gym out of this.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: Um I love that story.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a great story.
37:46
SPEAKER_04: I thought I need to ask him though, saying, Would you have done it if COVID didn't happen?
37:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's interesting, it's an interesting question, and you know, if he was here, we could have asked him that.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll ask him later.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: We did go through it was like really early episode.
37:59
SPEAKER_02: This was maybe episode three.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: Um is it just before like even the one with with you?
38:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: And it was uh, you know, the start of Barn Gym, how he had like a tiny corner of the gym, um, and you know, yeah, what sort of equipment he got in, and you know, if he had um how he started building it and stuff.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: I literally remember before he made it into barn, I remember the layout of the barn.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: There was a small room and he literally had like a powerlifting rack, um, a bench and some plates and a couple of dumbbells, I think.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: And it was tiny.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: And I remember when he knocked it through and made it into like a half of the size it wasn't like it is now, because half of the gym was still his dad's Hawaiian shirt shop storage.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: And then when he eventually knocked it through, I remember coming over and I'd see the telephone.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: I was like, mate, this is mental.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: And then like a year later, I came over and we had the outdoor rig.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: And that was when I was still at uni, and then you know, shortly after that I left uni and um came and worked here, but yeah, it was just it was cool to see the evolution of that.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: Like where the toilet is in the barn, it used to be a stairs to go into his flat upstairs, and it wasn't the outside outside.
39:06
SPEAKER_04: That was a good decision to have a have a toilet downstairs rather than people fucking up, but you're right.
39:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's very true.
39:11
SPEAKER_04: 100%.
39:12
SPEAKER_04: So where's the toilet?
39:13
SPEAKER_04: Uh it's just up next to his just uh next to his bedroom.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: Next to his kitchen.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, keep the door closed, wouldn't you?
39:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, please.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, no, it's not.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: But there were lots of challenges and stuff in in COVID, lots to keep people active.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: 100%.
39:27
SPEAKER_02: So a lot of running challenges.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: It's interesting how running hasn't it didn't really take it took off maybe a little bit, but it's only really taken off with all of the social media run fluences and stuff the last couple of years.
39:37
SPEAKER_02: The challenges.
39:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
39:38
SPEAKER_02: There's like a five- it was a five-five-five challenge that I remember, which was like run 5k, nominate five people, and I think we're saying like it's the British Heart Foundation donate five pounds to charity.
39:50
SPEAKER_04: I think I did that on my whopping um 12 speed treadmill.
39:55
SPEAKER_04: It took a long time.
39:57
SPEAKER_04: Um but um yeah, I do I do remember doing that.
40:00
SPEAKER_04: I obviously didn't do it in a very, very good time because the treadmill couldn't go very fast, but yeah, I do I do remember that.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: You're talking about the elapsed time, weren't you, Charlie?
40:08
SPEAKER_01: Like people like trying to make it look like they're doing a really fast 5k.
40:13
SPEAKER_04: You said there's well, sorry, people were what do they do?
40:16
SPEAKER_02: So you know the idea of an elapsed time rather than the actual time you run on Strabo.
40:20
unknown: Yeah.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: Are you familiar with that?
40:22
SPEAKER_04: Maybe explain it to me and the and the uh listeners, just so it didn't sound like I don't know what that is.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it's a yeah, it's it's a good way to do it.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: So pretty much you've got your like actual time that you run, like your moving time.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
40:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, so you know, let's say that I start my watch, I go out for a run, I come back, and it's taken me and I'm running for 15 minutes, I'm doing 15 minutes of that.
40:47
SPEAKER_02: If I can decide to pause my watch and then rest like 10 minutes in, and then start it again once I start running, run super fast again.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: Ah and so it could, if I let's say I had token.
41:00
SPEAKER_04: Are you allowed to do that?
41:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, you're allowed to do it, right?
41:03
SPEAKER_02: It depends like in a race, obviously not.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Like you can't like London Marathon's coming up, you can't just go, hold on, guys, like I just want to stop for a sec.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: You know, can everyone two hour London marathon?
41:14
SPEAKER_01: No worries.
41:15
SPEAKER_04: So, were people doing this when they were taking breaks and they weren't supposed to?
41:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so there was the the prime one was Ross Barclay, the one of the footballers, um played football for I think Everton at the time, and he ran a 1531 5k, which is like a pretty good 5k, but not I don't know, it's kind of oh, it didn't make like question.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: I was like, well, you know, footballers they're pretty fit.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: 1530 though is like pushing it.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: I'd expect like what would yours be?
41:45
SPEAKER_02: That's probably about what I would run.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: So you're an actual runner, okay.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a 5k runner, but so I think I see where see where this is going.
41:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, fucking Ross Barkey beating me over 5k, not allowed to have it.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: But basically, like it went online, he posted it, and he's like, right, you know, 555, dumb my 5k um break, 1531.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: His elapsed time was like over an hour.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: So what he's done was doing sprint intervals is he's literally gone, he's run for 1k, like flat out.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: He's paused his watch, he's waited until he's got his breath back, sprinted another 1k, he stopped again, and the 5k has taken him an hour, but he's had his watch on for 15 minutes of that.
42:28
SPEAKER_04: How how did how did everyone find this out, or was it obvious?
42:32
SPEAKER_02: On Strava, you see the actual time, and then below it it says total elapsed time.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: And did he think no one was gonna see this?
42:38
SPEAKER_02: He must have been a little bit naive.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, and it's so funny, man.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then there was a page uh in like Instagram page called Strava Wankers.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: Was he on them?
42:47
SPEAKER_02: And he was he was up there on Strava Wankers, he was a pinned pinned post.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so basically all these people like you know, kind of butchering these 5k 5k times.
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Right, so that was that that went out the window.
42:59
SPEAKER_02: That yeah, that went out the window.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, obviously for yeah, people donating to charity and stuff.
43:03
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: I think I think for for me, like I was doing so much running that I wouldn't go out and do a 5k.
43:11
SPEAKER_02: I think I tagged must have been an ego thing.
43:13
SPEAKER_02: I just tagged a run that I did, like a 10-mile run and just went, yeah, that's five.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: Cool, like one of my good, like paced runs.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: And I went, yeah.
43:23
SPEAKER_01: Legend.
43:24
SPEAKER_02: Bet people would like that one.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: No one cared.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: Great banter.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: Great, what a joker.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: What a joker.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: Joker.
43:32
SPEAKER_04: For me, running at that time.
43:35
SPEAKER_04: Um, obviously, I was limited with my lovely um, you know, 12 or 12 speed um triminal.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, you can uh get outside.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: I know you can get outside.
43:44
SPEAKER_04: Um no, I can uh but we used to um we used to run for a mile or two and then you start your workout.
43:52
SPEAKER_04: It was like a buy in.
43:53
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, those were the days.
43:55
SPEAKER_04: That was the only running I kind of did.
43:57
SPEAKER_04: So as fast as you well, as fast as you could do a Without right, I've now got to do burpees and I've got to do cleans and oh yeah.
44:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:06
SPEAKER_04: Good times though.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: It's really interesting though with our running, like our running club.
44:11
SPEAKER_02: So we kind of trained on our own for a bit, and a couple of months in, like the there were no races, but we were then allowed to have the groups of six.
44:18
SPEAKER_02: And I think there are a maximum of like three groups of six that you can have in a certain area.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: And so it was very, very quite serious.
44:26
SPEAKER_02: And our coach, or Coach Hookway.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: He was very, very adamant.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: Mark Hookway.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: Mark Hookway.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: Fantastic coach.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: The angel of Tunbridge Athletics Club.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: I think he was coach of England Athletics Coach of the Year last year.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: Jeez, that's mad.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's good.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: Man's committed.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: He's so committed.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: And he um we basically created a new group chat for lockdown.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: And it's called on WhatsApp, so it's called Lockdown Group.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: And the the group name still is called Lockdown Group.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: That's so despite it being a good five years after.
45:00
SPEAKER_04: I think that's nice though.
45:01
SPEAKER_04: It's a it's um you know it's a it's a memory, it's a it's a time.
45:05
SPEAKER_04: And um I think even now we always say, oh, the during the during the days of COVID, you know, um um and then oh yeah, so then we and then we all remember.
45:14
SPEAKER_04: There's still um stickers on the ground outside some supermarkets which say, was it one or two metres?
45:22
SPEAKER_04: Oh mate, oh social distance.
45:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there, yeah.
45:25
SPEAKER_04: This it's still it's still um you can still find it.
45:28
SPEAKER_04: It's like um it's like a yeah, like a bit of I was gonna say graffiti, but memorabilia.
45:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, memorabilia.
45:34
SPEAKER_01: Gyms still have the um COVID, a lot of gyms still have the COVID signs around, don't they?
45:38
SPEAKER_01: Do they?
45:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: Mine does.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I need to pop my hip.
45:41
SPEAKER_01: Sorry about this, Pirate Pete, by the way.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: The hay fever was really kicking in in one eye.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: And uh there's no moisture in this eye, so I might just do this for the rest of the podcast.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: Well, you must have been struggling then when you know you're out sitting in the fields with hay fever.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what's really funny, guys?
45:59
SPEAKER_01: It's just performative.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: I've really not been dramatic.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: My eye, it feels like sandpaper.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: Um I lived in denial for many years that I had hay fever, and I think it last year I finally accepted the fact that actually I think the reason my eyes feel like actual hell in the summer is because of hay fever, and I sometimes think, oh no, I'm getting ill because I'll get a really stuffy nose in the evening.
46:24
SPEAKER_01: Next day I feel absolutely fine, and then it accumulates skin throughout the day, stuffy nose in the evening, chills out.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: But it's the eye it's the eyes for me.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: Sorry guys, I look like a this is a massive tangent.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't be one of the podcasts with me in it without me just talking about some random shui.
46:39
SPEAKER_01: But uh, I just I I just thought the listeners might clock me just sitting there doing this in it.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: Just say what is wrong with it.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Progressively rubbing my eye more and more.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: It's like me the other day, just progressively leaning back on the chair.
46:52
SPEAKER_04: That is a funny um podcast, especially me being behind the camera.
46:55
SPEAKER_04: Just witnessing it.
46:56
SPEAKER_04: Trying to signal to Charlie here chair up, forward because he um yeah, we're gonna gotta go back to it.
47:04
SPEAKER_04: Like if you listen to it.
47:05
SPEAKER_04: Go back and watch it.
47:06
SPEAKER_04: I think it's um was it two episodes ago?
47:10
SPEAKER_02: It would have been, yeah, yeah, two episodes ago.
47:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and um there's two recent episodes that were shot outside, and the first one is um Charlie is slowly sinking, about 45 minutes sinking further and further into the into the ground.
47:28
SPEAKER_04: And I nearly was gonna say, fine, look, I'm gonna come I'm gonna come run behind you and just push your your chair for you before I don't want to ruin the the flow, but you did eventually move your chair, so it's all right.
47:38
SPEAKER_02: I just get so kind of you know, so immersed.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: You did have your book with you.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: I did have my book with you.
47:43
SPEAKER_02: Bro was in flow state with this chest.
47:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, here it is, yeah.
47:47
SPEAKER_02: But no, I just I just thought at one point, and it was a good 48 minutes in, and out of out of the 56 minutes that the episode was, and I just kind of thought, like, I'm feeling pretty relaxed.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm quite chill.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty laid back right now.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm like, I'm not sitting on the bench, the gym bench anymore.
48:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm just like making the most of leaning back.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: Ah, my uh my chair legs poking in the air.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: I remember looking over at you as well, and I was like, I just thought you were doing this, I thought you were like chilling, like that.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, when people like rock on their chair, and I was like, fair enough.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: I saw it and I was like floats your boat.
48:21
SPEAKER_01: Fair enough, yeah.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: Literally, whatever floats your boat, matey boy.
48:25
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so I guess I guess we'll it will end on a uh you know what sort of crazy workouts were there any insane workouts, either follow-alongs or ones that you like created yourself, then we'll start with you, you know, during COVID, that you kind of think like you look back on, you go, that was pretty nuts.
48:49
SPEAKER_04: Um I would love to give you a really crazy one, but I was um not to brag, I was doing crazy ones um uh just before COVID happened with my um wonderful PT and good friend.
49:00
SPEAKER_04: And um Guy Kennedy.
49:02
SPEAKER_04: That that all no, it wasn't Guy Kennedy.
49:05
SPEAKER_04: I'm just taking it.
49:05
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know Guy then, yeah, but I'm sure he would have um yeah, probably equally as wonderful.
49:10
SPEAKER_01: He was equally as wonderful, but he is equally as wonderful, all worship guy.
49:15
SPEAKER_04: As I said, I was I I was um pretty heavily you know into CrossFit workouts, and as I said, with like a mile or two run at the the at the beginning, and then and then uh doing like um circuits, that's probably what I wanted to say, right?
49:28
SPEAKER_04: So you're gonna be on there, gonna be on there, gonna be on there.
49:31
SPEAKER_04: And um, oh, I do remember doing cleans in inside my uh the the little garage I had, but um the ceiling wasn't quite high enough, so I made a lot of marks and I broke the concrete floor, oh my god, dropping dropping the weight.
49:50
SPEAKER_04: I mean the whole um annex shook, and uh I just carried on, carried on and didn't think anything of the and then one day I I walked in because I had rubber mat down like this, walked in and I kind of like you know dipped.
50:03
SPEAKER_04: I was like, what's happened?
50:04
SPEAKER_04: I've pulled it back, and I was like, oh, we've actually made a hole.
50:07
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
50:08
SPEAKER_04: Dropping 60, 70 um kilos trolle barb's head down, bang on some of the the ground for doing cleans.
50:16
SPEAKER_04: I then um purchased from is it Metafit?
50:21
SPEAKER_04: Um Mirafit that's it their um crash mats, so I could then do it outside and not you know wait the neighbours or all the birds.
50:29
SPEAKER_04: And um they're really good.
50:31
SPEAKER_04: They're like a proper crash.
50:32
SPEAKER_04: Crazy rubber kind of things are like they weren't bounced, I mean they were they were thick.
50:36
SPEAKER_04: I mean, oh no, I think I did get some which weren't thick enough and it wasn't really absorbing.
50:41
SPEAKER_04: And I got some big, that's when I got that brand.
50:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, some really big gymnastics mats kind of things.
50:46
SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, they were just called a crash mats for um um barbells, but it just went bomb and um so it ended up doing outside because I was worried I was um you know mining to China, but um yeah, it kind of actually broke the concrete floor.
51:00
SPEAKER_02: I just love to know the thought process, like not just the floor, but the ceiling.
51:05
SPEAKER_02: Like you did it a couple of times, what, and you just kept doing it into the ceiling.
51:09
SPEAKER_04: I think we then decided no more overhead press because after a couple of weeks because we we're like banging the the um the ceiling and the marks are still there now.
51:20
SPEAKER_04: And if you are gonna so just um sort of um isn't it um I should know is it the is it a power clean when you bring up to here?
51:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, maybe I could be wrong, sorry, I should know that, but it's been from the bottom or from your shin because you've got hang clean.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: From the floor, yeah, that's a power clean.
51:36
SPEAKER_01: So a hang clean is from like oh yeah, yeah.
51:39
SPEAKER_04: I do both from your floor.
51:41
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
51:41
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, we would do both.
51:43
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, because that was part of a workout.
51:44
SPEAKER_04: You would you would go from from the floor and do like seven and then and then from your knees and do seven.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, hang clean, yeah, yeah.
51:51
SPEAKER_04: Fling it over to your um to do a back squat and then yeah, and then burpees and then jumping over the the bar doing the the burpees.
52:00
SPEAKER_04: Burpee bar, yeah.
52:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was um but anyway, yeah.
52:03
SPEAKER_04: So um so yeah, to answer your question, um You were already a crazy man.
52:07
SPEAKER_04: I was already quite quite quite um quite the crazy lad, kind of the rich froning in the making.
52:13
SPEAKER_04: But um uh yeah, so that was my kind of crazy workout.
52:16
SPEAKER_04: So let's go with more circuit style crossfit, bless you, man.
52:21
SPEAKER_01: I I mean I just bless you.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: You say bless me.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: Crazy guy.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, oh bless.
52:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh bless you.
52:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh, you're lifting loads of weights.
52:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, went tunneling to China for a better life.
52:34
SPEAKER_04: Bless you with your rope.
52:35
SPEAKER_04: Probably not during that time.
52:36
SPEAKER_04: My my robot, no.
52:37
SPEAKER_04: Actually, no, not during that time.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: No, no, go on, Charlotte.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, guys.
52:42
SPEAKER_04: The eye's the eye's gone.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: The eye's eyeing.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: I did a lot of skipping.
52:48
SPEAKER_01: That was that was one of the other things I did.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: I became pretty obsessive with skipping.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: Um with a rope, let's clarify it.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: A skipping rope, skipping rope, skipping rope, yeah, yeah.
52:56
SPEAKER_01: Frolicking.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: Frollicking, frolicking in the fields.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I did so much skipping, I'd like to skip for like an hour sometimes.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: And I remember when I first started skipping, this was way before lockdown though.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: I when I tangent, but when I went to I moved out and lived in Copenhagen with my sister for four months and her family, and for a couple of months I didn't have gym membership, and I skipped so much like every day that I gave myself shin splints.
53:20
SPEAKER_01: Um I just skipped for it.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, built up the shins, um, but yeah, then I got back into it in lockdown because it was just a nice bit of cardio, and I just thought, oh, I feel a bit feel bit fat.
53:31
SPEAKER_01: So just did loads of skipping.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I used to just like skit for ages, and like I'd like get near to the end, I'd start doing like double unders.
53:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
53:41
SPEAKER_01: You whip yourself, you're so tired, you whip the back of your leg.
53:44
SPEAKER_01: And it felt guys, it felt like a punishment.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: I get really pissed off that I whipped myself and it disrupted my double under, so I'd have to start again.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: You get progressively more.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: Work harder, fool.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: Ah no, literally, so yeah, I wouldn't do it.
53:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I ever did any crazy workouts.
53:59
SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't ever follow any of like those um like the clothing things and stuff that my friends did.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: But I yeah, I I kind of made up my own stuff, and I do like circuits at 40 or 20 of kind of similar vibe to some of the condition classes I do now.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, it was the skipping that was just a bit obsessive, and I was like, Charlotte, you can just like chill out a little bit actually.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: It does look awesome.
54:18
SPEAKER_01: Skip whipping.
54:18
SPEAKER_04: I love I love skipping, never been good at it or ever really done it.
54:22
SPEAKER_04: But you people are doing double answers, it just looks so cool.
54:24
SPEAKER_01: Consistently as well.
54:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, bro, how'd you do that?
54:27
SPEAKER_01: Um I did it, I did do it.
54:29
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, some people I was like, I'd get jealous of watching them, so I'd like and you mean they like they're crossing the skipping rope.
54:37
SPEAKER_04: And like a um uh a press-up or something in between?
54:40
SPEAKER_04: Well the hell.
54:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, some people do some crazy shit.
54:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um yeah, that's obviously quite advanced stuff, but something like that.
54:46
SPEAKER_02: They do probably press-ups, they'll do backflips, they'll do like dancing, but skipping ropes.
54:51
SPEAKER_02: Like house shuffling.
54:52
SPEAKER_02: But like voguing.
54:55
SPEAKER_04: Vogue.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:56
SPEAKER_04: Backflips.
54:58
SPEAKER_04: All about you, Charlie.
54:59
SPEAKER_02: Mine was I mean, my gym workouts, I just had a set of the adjust like not adjustable, but the the spin-on and spin-off, like the metal dumbbells.
55:10
SPEAKER_02: Right, and I think they were yeah, I could put two of them maybe up to about 18 kilos or 20 kilos or something.
55:17
SPEAKER_01: Each each.
55:18
SPEAKER_01: Pretty good.
55:19
SPEAKER_01: Dumbbells or the barbells.
55:20
SPEAKER_02: Dumbbells.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: We had a barbell as well.
55:23
SPEAKER_02: Um but I mean that was that was just a bit of weights, like I was doing you know, a bit of that, but mainly it was running.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: I just ran so much.
55:31
SPEAKER_02: Like it makes me think, and it'll be interesting once I get back running, how I'll change my training because I wasn't doing much gym work.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: I was running the most that I'd ever run.
55:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, I would go out for long runs, back-to-back weeks of maybe like 15 plus miles.
55:48
SPEAKER_04: Was this at uni or at home?
55:50
SPEAKER_02: This was at home.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: So this was the first couple of months.
55:53
SPEAKER_02: Right.
55:53
SPEAKER_02: Um, that first like month yeah, in the summer, and then ended up getting in really good shape off of it.
55:58
SPEAKER_02: Um I was doing all the training like on my own.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: I went out for these yeah, there was a run that I did.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: I listened to a three-part podcast about the evolutionary benefits potential of LSD.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: As you as you do.
56:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, your boy got high and went for a really long run.
56:16
SPEAKER_02: So I was just Yeah, it was more of an exper experimental thing.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: No, I was just uh no, I was just out, I was out there, no water, had a bit of food, and just went out, ran all the way to like Knoll Park from my side like Tonbridge.
56:31
SPEAKER_02: So I ran through Under River, I got lost loads, I did this 19 mile run, and to be honest, it's made me think about all this fueling nowadays, about people obsessed with like gels and stuff.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the gel like a slice of toast, maybe a little bit extra, a bit more than that, and then I went and only got to like 15 miles, and I started feeling like, oh, I feel a little bit tired.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, like oh, you know, it might need a bit more energy.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: But I was already in Tunbridge High Street by then.
56:57
SPEAKER_01: Um You have to remember, Charles, you are you're a pretty good runner, and you you might you might be in that.
57:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but this was new for me.
57:03
SPEAKER_02: Like I'd never done a 19, I'd never done like a two and a half hour run before.
57:07
SPEAKER_02: Like this wasn't I I wasn't doing a huge amount of running then.
57:11
SPEAKER_02: Um I was just out.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: And just like just kept doing.
57:15
SPEAKER_01: You're just a natural athlete.
57:16
SPEAKER_01: I might be.
57:17
SPEAKER_01: It's all genetics, mate.
57:18
SPEAKER_01: Like all your hard work isn't even a thing.
57:20
SPEAKER_01: It's probably true.
57:20
SPEAKER_01: I should probably see what you're doing.
57:21
SPEAKER_01: You'll literally get into you'll literally you'll literally spend so much time training.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: You'll get into Team G B as soon as you can run again.
57:26
SPEAKER_01: That's just an X.
57:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't believe in uh I'm joking.
57:31
SPEAKER_04: Don't believe in hard work.
57:32
SPEAKER_01: Don't believe in hard work.
57:33
SPEAKER_04: I never used to eat before I used to train.
57:36
SPEAKER_04: Six I used to train at six in the morning, did that for a few years, and all I had is a coffee and some water.
57:42
SPEAKER_04: And it's only now if I try and do that, I I start to like you know, collapse and and feel and feel sick.
57:50
SPEAKER_04: And I think it happened very recently, and I think it was um it wasn't Guy, it was Harrison turned around and said, Have you eaten anything?
57:58
SPEAKER_04: And I said, No.
57:59
SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
58:00
SPEAKER_04: Well that well, there you are.
58:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the Harrison's social.
58:02
SPEAKER_04: But I used to do it, but I used to do it, but now but now I can't.
58:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you usually maybe that's um uh six years on on me now.
58:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think once you're once you are like aware of the fact of like fueling, yeah.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: If I knew kind of what I knew now about energy systems and stuff, yeah, I would be looking for signs of being tired, like way before 15 miles.
58:24
SPEAKER_01: You might have run further if you'd feel yourself.
58:26
SPEAKER_01: Think about it like that.
58:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
58:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, I would have run further if I fueled myself, but if I did it now, then I wouldn't have I probably wouldn't have done as well because I would have I'd be it would be on my radar of like, oh, I should probably get tired now.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: It was only like I was like, ah, 15 miles in, I was thinking, cool, do feel a little bit tired.
58:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
58:49
SPEAKER_02: But it was fun.
58:50
SPEAKER_02: I'd always I'd I'd uh caption my like my Strava captions, it would be like, you know, um just a jog to the shops or something.
58:57
SPEAKER_02: 18 miles.
59:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, Ben, thank you so much for hopping in front of the camera.
59:06
SPEAKER_04: Well, thank you so much for having me, guys.
59:08
SPEAKER_04: Um, it's been really good fun.
59:10
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
59:10
SPEAKER_04: I hope to come again.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, you know, um we'll have to get you in again sometime.
59:17
SPEAKER_01: Pull you in from behind the camera occasionally, just get you on the spot.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: What do you think about that, Ben?
59:22
SPEAKER_00: Hold the line.
59:24
SPEAKER_02: Shout.
59:25
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I mean we've we've uh also hinted at a couple of the podcasts that we've like recorded recently.
59:30
SPEAKER_02: Um I guess you know if you're listening to this and you haven't listened to those, give them a listen.
59:36
SPEAKER_02: We sometimes sit in this little studio in the gym.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then whether when the weather's nice and it's not too windy or you know overcast, we sit outside and then I think over the summer we're just gonna get some more creative spots.
59:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, absolutely.
59:51
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna record one from the the swimming pool.
59:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that'll be fun.
59:56
SPEAKER_04: Don't don't lean back on in on your that could be a good one actually.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_04: Watch it, wait for it.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's gone.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_04: Break all the equipment.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, thank you very much for have having me, guys.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_04: It's been really my my first ever podcast.
1:00:11
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1:00:13
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1:00:15
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1:00:32
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1:00:34
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