Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / Brent Weathers: Fancy Chef, Super Heros, Saving the Industry | Chef's PSA Podcast Ep. 126
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- 0:00Hello chefs, this is Chef's Kids, a podcast.
- 0:02I'm your host Andre Notara. On today's episode we have chef
- 0:05Brent Weathers, a chef based out of Dallas.
- 0:08You probably know him from Brent Eats Food.
- 0:09He's hilarious. On this episode, we talked about
- 0:12fancy chef, chef superheroes, how to save the world, the do's
- 0:15and don'ts of the kitchen, hip hop.
- 0:17It's a fun one. Stay tuned.
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- 1:07Chef, what's wrong with your eyes?
- 1:09Thanks for asking. It wasn't baby boy.
- 1:10It was actually the bleak something.
- 1:12I put moisture or something and I hope I grabbed right.
- 1:18I'm hoping I grabbed the right. Lube up the eyes.
- 1:20Yeah, it was dry and I probably didn't.
- 1:22Reading is fundamental. I don't know if I read.
- 1:26But label right? It's good to see you.
- 1:28I'm good to see you man. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:31So it's funny that you say that someone messaged me one day and
- 1:34because I put up a video and I think they were used to seeing
- 1:36the chef's PSA captions every day.
- 1:38So they messaged me into like, while you're a real person.
- 1:41I was like, yeah, I am like, wait a minute, you thought I was
- 1:43AI? They're like, yeah, I thought
- 1:44you were an AI account. So I I thought it was pretty
- 1:46funny. Like, no, I'm not an AI account.
- 1:47I I write those chefs PSA's every single day.
- 1:50Like I wake up first in the morning while I'm dripping,
- 1:52drinking my coffee, sitting there typing, thinking.
- 1:55Brilliant. By the way.
- 1:56Think about what shit I'm going to write.
- 1:57Yeah, your shit's brilliant. I, I appreciate that.
- 2:00I like everything I've posed. I, I watched it. 9 is my
- 2:02favorite number. I watched it at least nine times
- 2:04before I hit the post. Do you, I have to 'cause I, I
- 2:07can, I can start popping off. Yeah.
- 2:10Did I say somebody's name? Did I Oops.
- 2:11Did I mention some of that? I I just double double 999
- 2:14quadrupled check before I I don't just wing it no matter
- 2:18what how short it is. I still like hold on, am I is
- 2:21that guy's bold pet? You know, out of the shorts is
- 2:23this guy. You know, I'm no matter what I
- 2:25do, if it's Brent flits or massive class like hey, make
- 2:27sure I. Some of some of your should I?
- 2:30I watch it. I'm like cracking on his wild.
- 2:33Yeah, yeah, I, I, it's, it's literally what's what crosses my
- 2:36mind. Before I had these thoughts but
- 2:38I didn't know how to edit. So the one video you did that,
- 2:43so I won't say who, but I put up AI put something up.
- 2:47It's like someone's stealing my videos literally.
- 2:51And when I say literally, I mean it was like word for word.
- 2:53It was like you'd go to my script and it was like bad line.
- 2:56What did bad line cooks do Part 1 and Part 2?
- 2:59And then someone else did the exact same thing.
- 3:01It was like that. That's like literally word for
- 3:03word or kitchen red flags. And I was like, well, this is
- 3:06I'm like, look, the person that did it, like come on, like you
- 3:11remember, you remember Ghostface on the purple tape?
- 3:15Like do your own shit and be original.
- 3:17That wasn't purple tape. That was that was on Rayquan
- 3:19joined. Yeah.
- 3:20That was on the only bill, only bill, only bill for Cuban like.
- 3:23Gets on there talking about, you know.
- 3:24Real, make it your own issue and be original.
- 3:26Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so it's like, look, I, I
- 3:30know people like imitation is the greatest form of flattery,
- 3:32but like, dude, you're taking my exact stuff.
- 3:35And so I posted that I was like, hey, should I call?
- 3:38I didn't end up calling and I'm not going to call about like I'm
- 3:40not, I'm not about that. But it's like, hey, look, people
- 3:42will people that know know. But then a lot of people thought
- 3:45I was talking about you. Oh, that's really.
- 3:50OK, yeah, so they're like sending me your videos.
- 3:53And I was like, no, no, I'm not talking about him.
- 3:55It wasn't. And so you message me and you're
- 3:57like, hey, I'm not. I'm not biting you at all.
- 4:00It's just great minds think alike.
- 4:02Even down from like my middle name was Andre.
- 4:04You're Andre the red and black, like logo stuff like, yo, like
- 4:08it's creepy because I, I literally want to take what
- 4:12you're doing now is literally what I want to do is, is what
- 4:15I'm going to do. I haven't talked to
- 4:16illustrators, like literally. And then I meet you.
- 4:18Like, you got to be kidding me. But like we move different, but
- 4:21it's very we're related. Yeah.
- 4:23Yeah, so I'd seen your stuff and it was the one where you got the
- 4:27tongs and. Keep you keep.
- 4:29Adding more tweezers. There's some on your glasses,
- 4:32you know it. And so John Teaser was on the
- 4:34podcast and he was talking about you.
- 4:36He's like, oh, you know, Brent, I was like, yeah, yeah.
- 4:38And so. And so I was like, man, I
- 4:40started watching your stuff and I was hooked.
- 4:42I went down the rabbit hole and I'm just like, oh, some of this
- 4:44stuff is. Gold.
- 4:46For people that don't know they should follow you, I appreciate
- 4:48that. What what what's the What's your
- 4:50Instagram accounts for people? Could it is Brent eats food
- 4:52because my yeah, Brent eats food on Instagram because my regular
- 4:56name was taken. Yeah.
- 4:57I was like Brent Weathers and it was like, no, let's take it.
- 4:59I was like, man, I'm not about then I had to just pull it out.
- 5:02Actually, it was a friend of mine.
- 5:03His name was it's Richard eats food on G was saying he's a
- 5:06friend of mine. He helped me put my logo
- 5:08together. So I was like giving a tribute
- 5:09to him. Brent eats food.
- 5:10Brent eats food. Yeah.
- 5:11So that that first video I saw, it was great.
- 5:13So I I guess my question would be like, you think you could get
- 5:17Fancy Chef a run for his money? Fancy chef 2013 man.
- 5:21Yeah, he's, he's, he's extra entertaining and, you know, Andy
- 5:27Kaufman type stuff. Yeah, I, I hope it's real.
- 5:31I hope we bump into him and I hope that we cut the cameras
- 5:34off. He's like, check this out.
- 5:35I worked at a Michelin restaurant in France.
- 5:37I opened up such and such in Switzerland.
- 5:39I'm over it. I'm tired of it.
- 5:40And so if you guys were to cook garbage food to hear, it'd be
- 5:43kind of cool in a movie setting if he was just if he just like
- 5:47totally just went in an opposite direction.
- 5:49Like, dude, I, I cook for real. But all this goofy stuff, I'll
- 5:52see you on these cooking TV shows.
- 5:54If that's what you guys are like.
- 5:55That's the guys like, all right, cool.
- 5:56Let me dump my stuff down. And that that would be kind of
- 5:58cool in my mind on the movie setting.
- 6:00But I don't think that's the case.
- 6:02I think he's dead serious. I called him.
- 6:04What did he did? He did he answer.
- 6:07Fancy speaking? How can I help you?
- 6:10He was couldn't drive short. I said.
- 6:12I said, hey, I said hey, what's up, man?
- 6:14I said, and I legit from my core, he inspires me.
- 6:17I'll tell you why later. But he inspires.
- 6:18But I say, hey, man, I'm inspired.
- 6:20I love her videos. I didn't tell why I love them,
- 6:22but I said I love her videos. Hey, I he said that's cool, man.
- 6:25I appreciate you calling. Yeah.
- 6:26All right. Cool man.
- 6:28Are you going to Texas or were you were you going to next?
- 6:30Yeah, I'll be in Texas. All right, Cool.
- 6:32Well, one, love to you, man, and I wish you well.
- 6:36Thank you for calling. And he's very cut and dry, like
- 6:39what you see on his lives. I got that treatment.
- 6:42So I, I sent him a message because when he was going to do
- 6:45John Segura, he's like, I'm going to be on John Segura's
- 6:49like Tom Segura. But yeah, yeah.
- 6:51So you know, he's like, I'm going to be in, he's in Miami,
- 6:54he's going to Austin, TX. And I'm like, OK, everyone's
- 6:58saying get him on the show. Get I was like, can I get, can I
- 7:01get the fancy chef on the show? So I, I sent him a message.
- 7:03Didn't even, I don't even know if he saw it.
- 7:05He probably didn't. But but you know, when he's
- 7:08talking, he's like mansions, castles, billionaires and
- 7:12billionaires only prices going up, up, up, up, up, up.
- 7:15And I'm like, I don't know, like if he thinks I'm going to pay
- 7:18him, Like I ain't going to pay him. $2000.00 for the Beyoncé
- 7:21drinks. Yeah.
- 7:23For the, for the, it's like cake and strawberries in extra fruit.
- 7:27There's no, no liquid in there whatsoever.
- 7:28We call it a drink. He's like, yeah, these are
- 7:30Beyoncé's $3000 or $2000. And these are the these are the
- 7:34Beyoncé's and these are the. He didn't say Halle Berry said
- 7:37that Rihanna's the Rihanna's Beyoncé $3000 straight face.
- 7:40I love that because when I, when I did my tweezer video, yeah, I
- 7:44had to make sure I had a straight face.
- 7:45Well, I put tweet the original video had tweezers in my hair
- 7:48and I told I forgot it was a long story, but I put I have to
- 7:51give a straight face for that. So I, I love a straight face
- 7:54like where people like this guy for real.
- 7:56This guy's an idiot. And I was like, no, no, we need
- 7:58no brain. Like that's on purpose.
- 8:00Like he's yeah. So I would love it if he was
- 8:02doing this for real. Yeah, like, this is, this is a
- 8:04subtle troll. Like, like, like it's the best
- 8:06kind. Like you said, Andy Kaufman.
- 8:08Like that would be wonderful. I just and you know, after
- 8:11calling him and after he's does a straight serious stuff like
- 8:14he, he plated a dish and he said, Hey, fancy chef, come over
- 8:18here and tell us about your food.
- 8:20One second. It's still leaking.
- 8:21So he cooked, he cooked the rib eye that looked like a pork
- 8:23chop. Put it right when he cooked it,
- 8:25didn't rest it put it right onto the plate, build a bunch of hard
- 8:28vegetables on top of it. And it was like, you know, and
- 8:32and he's like, I'm sorry, I can't, I can't show you guys
- 8:34right now. It's like live.
- 8:34It's like on you know, it's live.
- 8:36He's like, not yet. Sorry.
- 8:37I said it was like bleeding out. He didn't want rest at first and
- 8:40then so I was like, yo, he's like hacking this stuff up real.
- 8:43I think he's serious. Well, he, he leaves a couple of
- 8:46cookie crumbs. Like I'm like, OK, is 'cause
- 8:49it's subtle. And the reason I know this is
- 8:50because I'm a troll. Like like in real life, people
- 8:54that don't know me is like I, I'm a troll.
- 8:56I fuck with people. I do like, I'll, I'll do like I
- 8:58used to put, you know, a lot. There's a lot of subliminals,
- 9:01like if people are really following me and it's not always
- 9:03there, but every now and like the song is a subliminal diss at
- 9:06someone or, or the location or read the caption.
- 9:09There's there's some subtles. So it's not for everybody, but
- 9:13you'll know it's for you. Like if if you read it, you know
- 9:16it's about you, right? So I, I see fancy chef and he's
- 9:19like, he's pouring the vinegar on the chicken.
- 9:22He's got the toothbrush backwards, but he's also got a
- 9:24raw egg behind the chicken, like it's laying eggs.
- 9:27So it's like that, that's level of humor that that that's for
- 9:31one, that's one person like, like one or two people like
- 9:34that's the Easter egg. Right, You have to No, Yeah, you
- 9:36have to whatever. And one time he cracked and he.
- 9:38He was like, all right, guys, you know, got paid.
- 9:40Just look at my pretty lips. Look at my pretty lips.
- 9:41And he's writing. He left and cleaned it up real
- 9:44quick. I was like, I texted him a few
- 9:46times. I hate him and Jake is up.
- 9:47I'm proud of you. You're getting all these
- 9:48followers. When I first came across his
- 9:50page, it was 7000 followers. The next week it was.
- 9:55I don't know exactly. How long?
- 9:57How long ago was this? Two months.
- 9:59Ago dead serious I two months ago he had 7000 some odd
- 10:04followers and it was just shooting up.
- 10:07So he has another video where he's wearing a silk orange
- 10:11pocket square and it's like, OK, he knows that's not right, but
- 10:15that, that he's fancy chef, right?
- 10:16He's got to wear he's got to wear a silk pocket square or he
- 10:19has another one with the lamb chop going in.
- 10:21Yeah. And the Cardi B whip.
- 10:23And the berries. And hard strawberries at the
- 10:25bottom, like if I even he's just, he's just throwing
- 10:28together. And he had another, he was on
- 10:30something where he said, you know, I, I just create.
- 10:32That's what I'll do. I just want to create things off
- 10:33the spot. So when that podcast he just
- 10:35did, he was all about like, hey, hey, I just want to come over
- 10:38there and create if need be, like I don't, I'll just wing
- 10:40something. So he's that's the tip he's on
- 10:42so when we see him do that one pot meals with the potatoes and
- 10:45the chicken that's him being creative on the spot.
- 10:49He is record y'all pay attention.
- 10:51Listen, the beautiful by the chef, beautiful and nice,
- 10:53beautiful and nice. You guys see what I'm doing?
- 10:55Look at this. This is class blue chef.
- 10:56Thank you. Bye.
- 10:58As like I'm. You you want this?
- 11:00Millionaires. You guys want.
- 11:01The billionaires want. If you're not a millionaire, if
- 11:03you don't have a cast, don't even call me.
- 11:05That's brilliant. It really is So what I, when I
- 11:08look at that, so like, I look at that as like that's a master
- 11:12class in marketing, whether he's serious or whether he's not like
- 11:16he came in. So you said you started watching
- 11:18him two months ago. He had 10,007 thousand.
- 11:22So, so today, today's date is October 5th that we're recording
- 11:27today. I, I checked his numbers, he's
- 11:28at 41,040. So he gained about 10,000
- 11:31followers in the last few weeks, right?
- 11:34And I promise you that he'll have 100,000 in no time.
- 11:38He will and I, I, my prediction is like he'll have a million in
- 11:42no time. Now the thing, the thing that's
- 11:44interesting about him is let me give away some industry secrets.
- 11:47It's like you look at a lot of these content creators that have
- 11:50millions of followers. That's bullshit.
- 11:51It's 100% bots. They bought them or they sign up
- 11:54with an agency. They're like, OK, you're we're
- 11:56going to, we're going to be under management with me.
- 11:59Boom, we got to get you more followers here.
- 12:01Here's another. We're going to get you to
- 12:02100,000 boom bot. But they're bots.
- 12:05They're not real. That's right.
- 12:06And so I don't think he does that because I don't think he's.
- 12:10So those are real followers. No, no, they're so it's
- 12:13empowered when I say, hey, hey, chef, you inspire me.
- 12:17He so when I first started get on Instagram, I was posting, I
- 12:21was supporting. I was I had something called
- 12:22Prince and common sense. It was a a a soap line.
- 12:25I was helping with my a friend of mine and we we had a
- 12:28partnership and whatever. And so I was doing everything I
- 12:31said, Hey, support this and I I was new at hashtag game.
- 12:34I was like support that I don't care about support blacks
- 12:36support local, you know, self-care and or whatever. 2
- 12:40views all because they, the artificial intelligence picks up
- 12:45me saying hey, support by and he's like yo, you can't do this
- 12:49without paying us. You have to pay us first.
- 12:52They made sure I got 11 views, 2 views.
- 12:54I'm like what's going on here? And that's what that's how
- 12:56Brentflix came about, because I was posting like, hey, let's buy
- 13:00this and get this and do whatever.
- 13:01And then I was like, how about I just post random stupidity?
- 13:04That's how that's how Brentflix came about.
- 13:06And then now I'm hooked on that because I have nothing but
- 13:08stupid stuff. Yeah, Yeah.
- 13:10And that's how that Brentflix came about.
- 13:12But he doesn't care about none of that.
- 13:13He doesn't do no hashtags. He literally.
- 13:16Just. Information on there and he just
- 13:18talks and talks and he buy this and book me now.
- 13:21Book me now. That's a big old social media.
- 13:23No, no, you need to pay all those social media platforms.
- 13:25You got to pay them first and then you can get dope.
- 13:28Don't take care of you and that's what that's what his deal
- 13:30was in the fact that the word of mouth literally got him that
- 13:34way. I'm pretty sure the Instagram
- 13:35people at the board of the the board of directors, the little
- 13:38desk they have when we have a little coffee and look at the
- 13:40screen. That's fancy guy.
- 13:41What happened here? How did it slip through our
- 13:43fingers, though, since the power of word of mouth, he literally
- 13:45broke the rules by accident. He would even try.
- 13:47He just hey, but his content is so funny.
- 13:51I'm probably nice because he's gonna watch this.
- 13:53His content is so interesting and funny that that everyone
- 13:58talks about. We share it and chefs are glued
- 14:00to it. You can't, you can't stop
- 14:02watching. It's just, and he'll go on live
- 14:05for 25 minutes. It's like doing a comedy set.
- 14:08It's comedy. So he'll sit there live for 25
- 14:11minutes talking to the camera and everyone's watching.
- 14:14It's like, you know, when people, like I used to read the
- 14:16comments earlier, like people picking on like, you're not a
- 14:18real chef. And but I'm like, you're like,
- 14:20you know what, who, who are you? Who are you like, you're the guy
- 14:24watching the guy that's not a real chef.
- 14:26You're the real chef watching the guy that's you're saying is
- 14:29not a real show who's winning. So here's the deal.
- 14:32So you you've seen Peyton full. Five years ago, years ago, years
- 14:36ago. So Peyton fuled at the magical
- 14:40clip AB everybody eats B everybody eats whatever you're
- 14:44into. If in this colonial art game,
- 14:47there's so much room for everybody to get on if you want
- 14:49to serve overcooked green beans out of a can for your magical
- 14:54catering and whatever it is and your your famous one.
- 14:57That drives me craziest way. These only fan only fan looking
- 15:01women, really provocative looking.
- 15:03They cook and they're like, hey, yeah, we we get it in today.
- 15:07Whatever. So what happens is they take
- 15:08sauce that they made for the seafood sauce and they pour it
- 15:11over the shell. That drives me crazy.
- 15:13I can't stand when they do that. When they take sauce, put her
- 15:16over the shell and guess what it's selling.
- 15:18It's something like that. They have a line out the door.
- 15:20A guy I sold out today. They're selling out.
- 15:24I'm like you and me know better than go.
- 15:25Just what are you? What are y'all doing?
- 15:27There's one lady put hash Browns in the bottom of its go box, or
- 15:31maybe I'll find it Hash Browns. My bad.
- 15:35It was like, you know, cubed up potatoes fried and whatever.
- 15:38And then to put pasta directly on top of that, the bell Peppers
- 15:43ringed up raw, put like whatever chicken or shrimp and just
- 15:48clotted the whole thing up. Hey, yeah, whatever.
- 15:52And it sold out. So whatever you want to do in
- 15:55this career, if you're 321 Michelin, if you're if you're a
- 15:59James Beard want to be, if you want to buy a James Beard award,
- 16:01if you want to whatever angle in food you are at, if you in
- 16:05country, country cooking the, the the store bought rolls at
- 16:09your famous restaurant, the the the BBQ sauce that that says
- 16:13award. Hey, this is our award-winning
- 16:15BBQ sauce. And it literally says
- 16:17award-winning on the label from Kroger.
- 16:19Yeah. So whatever, whatever you are in
- 16:22this game, whatever you want to put out, there's room for you.
- 16:25There's, there's, there's. You're right.
- 16:27And this is the lesson that I, I, you know, the people that are
- 16:30listening, this is the lesson cause a lot of people struggle
- 16:32with content creation and they'll message me like, Hey,
- 16:34can you look at my page and give me some feedback?
- 16:37And their page looks like everyone else's page.
- 16:40And I'm like, look at fancy chef.
- 16:42He looks like fancy chef like, no, he doesn't look like anybody
- 16:45else other than him. And watch, pretty soon people
- 16:47are gonna start copying him. And, and what, what I find very
- 16:51interesting is here this guy comes in out of nowhere and he
- 16:54smokes. Everybody smoked like like he he
- 16:57by 2025. As long as he doesn't self
- 17:00implode by 2025, he has he has the potential to be the you
- 17:05know, to get some major deals. He will be a millionaire.
- 17:09Plus, you'll be cooking for you'll be hearing about fancy
- 17:13chef parties. He will have his own Consulting
- 17:14Group. It's a fact.
- 17:17And that's literally how it's going to go because we love the
- 17:19world loves hey, look, what goes viral is food and and something
- 17:23being funny and sexy people and dogs and cats or whatever he got
- 17:28yet half of those already. So so you got I I saw this the
- 17:32other day, the the Haktua girl. Yeah, it's a Haktua podcast.
- 17:36So, so she's she's like the. Yep.
- 17:38Was it like the number one she had like #1 in the podcast
- 17:41world? I don't know about that but she
- 17:43just started like a month ish ago and she's already having
- 17:47famous famous people in her bedroom a A list.
- 17:50And not only that, no, I'm, I'm not kidding.
- 17:52I, I want to say she hit number one.
- 17:53I'm not sure if it was on it was on one of these streaming, you
- 17:56know, Spotify or whatever, but I I'm almost certain that she hit
- 17:59#1 is like how how people love yeah, so fancy chef 2013 don't
- 18:07forget like who gave. Me props.
- 18:11No, break the rule. No no.
- 18:13But the one thing that we need to take away from Fancy Chef out
- 18:15of all dead seriousness, they have to speak at his funeral.
- 18:19One thing we can say is his consistency, his determination.
- 18:24Look at this how he posts. He posts, he posts 5-6 times a
- 18:27day. His posts in the five something
- 18:29thousand his he posted way over 5000 posts.
- 18:33And that's years of years of doing that.
- 18:36Yeah, what you I mean, I don't Well, I think it'd be kind of
- 18:39cool. He should do it like when you're
- 18:41like, hey, guys, I'm give I'll give away this this that if we
- 18:44go, if we go to fancy chef's page, scroll all the way down to
- 18:47the bottom. Let's get the very first post.
- 18:48If you can do that screenshot of some material, I'll give you
- 18:51this. So for people that are listening
- 18:53right now, if you could screenshot Fancy chefs very
- 18:56first, very first, send it to me, The first person to send it
- 18:59to me, I'll send you all my books signed.
- 19:01Done. I think, I think that's
- 19:03brilliant. Yeah.
- 19:03Because he's already we, the average, all of our friends, we
- 19:07clown him. There's like this guy's a joke
- 19:09and whatever joke or not, we can still learn from that.
- 19:12Like his consistency, the fact that he didn't, he doesn't use
- 19:14templates. He doesn't, I mean he, he uses
- 19:16every now and he use a a song for something, you know.
- 19:19Every every now and again, someone comes through and breaks
- 19:20the mold. And he totally just like, hey
- 19:22guys, you know, But he went the longer way because he's been
- 19:25doing this for years. I mean, I'm guessing 2013, like
- 19:28right when Instagram started. I'm pretty sure that's what that
- 19:31means. And he kept on posting and
- 19:33posting and posting. And now he gets to the point
- 19:35where he is it's he never stopped.
- 19:38I'm pretty sure his very first few posts he was getting clowned
- 19:41on. He kept on going and he never,
- 19:43not once did. He doesn't do the hashtags, he
- 19:45doesn't use fancy templates. He he literally, he has his own
- 19:50lane He stays in. And I know he's joking.
- 19:52I know he's not being serious because sometimes his his cereal
- 19:54butts, sometimes it's upside down completely.
- 19:57It's like, dude, he just posted something earlier you had a Kit
- 19:59Kat cereal. Now it's Raisin Bran.
- 20:01Now it's you know what I'm saying?
- 20:02Like diet pops or whatever, like he was.
- 20:06Sometimes I think he's playing, but I think he's dead serious
- 20:09too. All right, chef.
- 20:10So I have a question. So you're kind of a superhero
- 20:14that kind of right. You're, you're like a chef
- 20:16superhero right now. Like you did that video.
- 20:18John Taser was talking on the podcast.
- 20:20Like everyone knows you as you go, everyone's hugging you.
- 20:23I wonder the impersonation we got.
- 20:24So so here's what's what's fascinating is right now we need
- 20:29chef superheroes. That's great.
- 20:30So let's say you're the chef superhero.
- 20:32How are you going to save our industry?
- 20:34Like what? What are what are some things
- 20:35that we could do right now? What's driving you crazy and
- 20:37what couldn't we do to make the world a better place for chefs?
- 20:41I want to ask people, chefs and cooks, why exactly are you
- 20:46cooking? And do you know what that means?
- 20:48Like chefs, we have the power to like I can make cry.
- 20:51I can get really get you mad. You can storm out all over the
- 20:55way something tasted. That's power.
- 20:57So we have the same we have the same power that DJs have.
- 21:00We can really rock a crowd. We can have everybody talk about
- 21:02us and we can have everyone hate us and blink of an eye all
- 21:04because of why are you cooking? So yes, you went to coronary
- 21:08school. Why?
- 21:09What's your end goal? And you don't have to have an
- 21:11end goal, right? You maybe just like I love
- 21:13cooking, but I think we need to figure out like, why are you
- 21:15here? Because we have a lot of people
- 21:19in the in this racket for the wrong reasons.
- 21:21What do you mean? What do you mean wrong reasons?
- 21:23Wrong reasons. Like, you know, they, they
- 21:25licked the chop a couple of times with their parents and
- 21:27they were like, I want to be on that TV show because I Oh yeah,
- 21:29you should be on that show. And what happens is they they,
- 21:31they they see, they see a couple TV shows and I want to be like
- 21:37that. I saw, I heard one guy say, I
- 21:38want to be a chef because you guys are the new rock stars.
- 21:41So why are you cooking? Those guys don't last long.
- 21:43And it's and it's messing up our industry because Dallas, TX,
- 21:47Austin, this is Texas. We can find some money.
- 21:50We can open up a restaurant really quick.
- 21:51We can find us some, some millions and millions of
- 21:53dollars. These restaurants come up and
- 21:55they go down because don't have good conversations.
- 21:57The the guys money hungry. The chef wants to be a, you
- 22:00know, he wants to, to lift the part.
- 22:02He immediately gets tattoos and that's just part of his new
- 22:05image. I want to be a rock star.
- 22:06And, you know, and so it's like, I think that what, you know, why
- 22:10are you doing this? And if you are doing it for the
- 22:12right reason, I think it's best to do some good homework.
- 22:15If you are a, a guitar player, I just, you don't have to.
- 22:19I think you know who Jimi Hendrix is.
- 22:20I think you need to know who B.B.
- 22:22King is. There's different styles.
- 22:23I think, you know, you even know who, let's say Jimi Page.
- 22:25I read Jimi Page and I, you know, add rock from the beast.
- 22:28Of boys. So would you say that they're
- 22:31trying to create the image before they have the talent?
- 22:33The image is first these days, not all there's see, there's a
- 22:36couple, there's a, there's a lot of chefs that they have old
- 22:39souls. So, you know, back in the, you
- 22:41know, in the 90s, there was always these kids are dressed
- 22:43like in the in the 50s and they love the sixes and the 70s.
- 22:46They have The Beatles haircut. They just, they love, they just
- 22:49have old souls. And it's cool because there's a
- 22:51lot of 1617 year old. They don't have social media.
- 22:53They don't have they, they don't want to be what they actually
- 22:57they love old stuff. And hey, I got the 1st the the
- 23:01the Spanish chef that such I said I got the, you know, they
- 23:03took pride in good finds and good like authentic, like, you
- 23:08know, one guy he was really excited about I forgot the name
- 23:11of the term. Is it?
- 23:12Is it pen say? Is it the idea of taking the?
- 23:15Caramelizing tomato paste. Yeah, so so that says one guy
- 23:19was like, yeah, man, I do things the right way.
- 23:21I take this tomato paste that he was just very.
- 23:23He was a young kid. He was on some old, older tech.
- 23:26We kind of got away from that because it we realize it is
- 23:29bitters. It's crazy.
- 23:30Your stock is bitter. Whatever cases depend on how you
- 23:32go about it. But there's a lot of so we it's
- 23:34not, we're not doomed by no means, but we do have people
- 23:37that are age older, a little younger.
- 23:39It's like, you know what, I want to be on TVI want to come out
- 23:42and say it out of the mouth. I want to I want to be AI, want
- 23:44to be a chef. And it's like, OK cool, but
- 23:47please know what that means. Yeah, a lot, you know, I talked
- 23:49about this a lot on the show. I'll tell you, people like they,
- 23:51they need to build a brand. They need to have social media
- 23:53presence, especially it's, it's like your virtual resume.
- 23:56But I think, I think they also only hear that part, but they
- 24:01don't hear the part of but you got to cook like you still got
- 24:04to be a good chef and you can't have one without the other.
- 24:07Otherwise you're doomed for failure.
- 24:09Cause at some point rent and rent is due.
- 24:12One thing that I say it's like like we're saying sometimes they
- 24:15they want the image before they get the skills, but what what
- 24:18ends up happening is like I have this term I call them Halloween
- 24:20ninjas right so have have I explained this to you?
- 24:23I don't think so. So a Halloween ninja, like when
- 24:25you're when you're a kid and like 8 years old, you go, you
- 24:29get a ninja costume, got plastic swords, you go place there was
- 24:32like, ah, scary, right, right, right.
- 24:35But they're, they're playing dress.
- 24:37No one's really scared that they're real.
- 24:38No one's afraid that that sword's really going to cut
- 24:40them. They're playing dress up, right.
- 24:42There's a lot of chefs that play Halloween ninja like they, they,
- 24:45they got, they got the, they got the costume down, but they,
- 24:49they're not real ninjas. They're not.
- 24:51No one's scared. They have the knives down, they
- 24:53have the equipment, they have the fancy bags.
- 24:55They know a guy that makes the customized leather bags.
- 24:57You know, it's really, it's a beautiful thing.
- 25:00They got the just cooked. They have all the, they have all
- 25:02the Psas, they have all, they have all the merchandise and the
- 25:06front, You know, they would be flexed.
- 25:08You know, I was like, yo, I 'cause when I started cooking, I
- 25:10think you are you're man. You have pictures of 95.
- 25:13I put my first chef coat on and when I was 2002, but I was
- 25:17cooking since 99 anyway. But we don't yeah, like I cook.
- 25:20The only thing that was popping at the time was Emerald and that
- 25:24that wasn't enough for us to start.
- 25:25Everyone wants to be a chef. We're just like, oh man, it's
- 25:27good. I want to start cooking better
- 25:28food now, but no one really want to go be a chef.
- 25:30Then later on these other TV. Shows like Iron Chef and.
- 25:34Iron Chef was over people's heads still.
- 25:35We we flip the channels and pre show.
- 25:37We're not we what we watched it, but people would flip see that
- 25:40as oh, that's too much. But what happened was you
- 25:42remember the restaurant on Monday night Rock with the
- 25:46spirit. Oh yeah, yeah, that's true.
- 25:48Now he was he was living the rock star in that show.
- 25:51And that's what I'm saying they watched it.
- 25:52We we would watch that and it was like people started thinking
- 25:55and then they see, no Top Chef came out right?
- 25:58I'll stop right there. Which is a positive thing
- 26:00because the guys in those Top Chef shows, I met like 70% of
- 26:04them, you know, and like 60% of them really dope.
- 26:08If that 10%, there's a 10% it's kind of off.
- 26:11But you know, they only whatever rocker Desperado on on Monday
- 26:15night NBC it was a 2 hour show and it really got you amped up
- 26:21because Rocco's he's sitting down with a bunch of girls that
- 26:24hey Rocco, hey, hey lady who's taught English back then same
- 26:29English. That's because he was and then
- 26:31we started winning stupid awards.
- 26:32So we had we started winning things and then doing food
- 26:35taught English one best sexiest man alive or whatever it is
- 26:37sexiest chef or. Whatever it was, I don't know
- 26:39what it was it. Was something sexy and then it
- 26:42was that and then he had other chefs doing that too.
- 26:46And then it's like, man, you guys are the new rock stars.
- 26:49Yeah, we can. We we can feed a whole bunch of.
- 26:52People and then we and then we get and then we get Hell's
- 26:54Kitchen and then and then we. Had Hell's Kitchen and what
- 26:56happened what happened with Hell's Kitchen is people's like
- 26:59it was exciting and there's some chefs like only a chef one day
- 27:03and they started mimicking Gordon Ramsay like what's your
- 27:05style? So when how do we cure the world
- 27:07of of, you know, being a superhero like, hey, chefs is
- 27:11what you don't need to do What is your style?
- 27:13If you never throw nothing in, nobody don't start, you know,
- 27:16like that's Gordon Ramsay style. And then we start doing some
- 27:19homework. I think every and awesome too.
- 27:21If you're a chef, I think you need to pick up a book.
- 27:24The average chef these days less less like in the 30s on down.
- 27:27They don't have French Laundry cookbook.
- 27:28You have to have it. No, I think it's best that you
- 27:30have, but I think it's very important because.
- 27:33It's one of the most important books, I think.
- 27:34He gave birth to a like a lot of people, especially as far as the
- 27:38cookbook format. And so I think you need no
- 27:40killer is I think you need no Trotter.
- 27:42You need no Trotter, you know, and the plate presentations of
- 27:45when it just started coming out and and oh, that's crazy.
- 27:47You have a big old plate right here.
- 27:49But then like that little it's just oh, that's empty because
- 27:52before we was on some like 6-12 and whatever.
- 27:55Now it's laying in dots around the thing and that markup here
- 27:58white plating, which is like stressful.
- 28:01Vegetables at 3:00, right? Starch at 6:00 or whatever
- 28:05though. She got what was on that, but
- 28:07then later on Keller and Trotter and a few others and he's and
- 28:11unfortunately man, like I think they know what Joe Robushon is
- 28:14because now unfortunately Joe Robushon was chef of the
- 28:16century. The only thing that people can
- 28:18quote is his the Ponqueray recipe.
- 28:20He was more than that. Only if we saw that Creme Brulee
- 28:222.0 he did that was heavy like what that he had the whole, like
- 28:28it was, yeah, it was the custard here.
- 28:30And they had like a blow, blow gun of a sugar, a sugar bubble
- 28:34or such. And he put the custard into
- 28:37that, that in the glass sugar and that was here and he cracked
- 28:41it. He doesn't get props for that.
- 28:42Like, you know what I'm saying? Like do some homework.
- 28:44I, I with me. I love.
- 28:46I want to know why. Right.
- 28:48I I want to know why I'm doing what I'm doing and if I'm
- 28:50calling something the the volute, I need to know what
- 28:54volute means so I don't butcher the how my presentation goes
- 28:57back because I could either call that a Jew.
- 28:58This guy called. I don't like when chefs call the
- 29:00constant. This is bad cloudy.
- 29:02This is our consummate and they start whispering in South state,
- 29:05but it's a constant, man, I'm looking at like this.
- 29:07It's like once I was somewhere we did a mushroom consummate.
- 29:10It was nowhere near a consummate.
- 29:11It was cloudy. It was but but see the art of
- 29:14selling the art of Sabrina salesman and right here.
- 29:17What we have here is a mushroom truffled, burnt green, green
- 29:22scallion dashi. And what we have it's it's
- 29:25consummate. And what we have here is.
- 29:26Where was it? Where was it from?
- 29:27What farm? That kind of stuff.
- 29:30No one. Yeah, I'm about to get started,
- 29:32but I just. But don't.
- 29:33But don't you think like, because I agree with what you're
- 29:36saying sometimes I, I, I disagree a little bit.
- 29:39I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I I disagree
- 29:42that it doesn't matter too much to the person needing it.
- 29:46That's a fact. But I don't want to lie to him.
- 29:48That's what I'm saying. Because they need to go home and
- 29:50like, hey, such and such. What does what does the constant
- 29:53mean? And constant will say it's such
- 29:55and such like, that's not it. We deal with a lot of hatred, a
- 29:57lot of haters in our industry. I would love enough people would
- 30:00eat it to a restaurant for the wrong reasons, too.
- 30:02I was like, yeah, he has a new restaurant.
- 30:04Really. Let's go check it out.
- 30:06You know, And just so they can RIP on you later and work the
- 30:08next day. And in some people, we want to
- 30:10get pampered. Like, hey, that's my night off.
- 30:12I can't wait to eat this guy's food.
- 30:14But when something goes wrong, they just like, yeah, I mean,
- 30:16the food was cool, but you know. There wasn't a ravioli.
- 30:18It was, but don't you think it's a double edged sword 'cause I, I
- 30:21know I experienced this a lot and I was this guy.
- 30:22I, I, when I was in culinary school, I'd read the, the
- 30:26glossary terms and I would memorize them.
- 30:28Like that was my thing. I would come home after work or
- 30:30after school. I would sit there in my bed
- 30:32says, you know, we had no Instagram, we had no phones.
- 30:34It was just like, we, we, we had books, right?
- 30:36So I would sit there and I was like, OK, what is a Matagnon?
- 30:38What is what is I'd memorize boom, boom, boom.
- 30:40And then I would go to like quiz me, like get, get, get the food
- 30:43lover's companion, quiz me. I'll fucking tell you everything
- 30:46in there. And then one day and I'm, I'm
- 30:49young, I'm 1718 years old. My chef comes up to me.
- 30:52He's like, I need you to braise this.
- 30:53Go throw it in the oven, blah, blah, blah.
- 30:55All right. So it's like a banquet of 200
- 30:58people. So it's time to play it up.
- 31:01He grabs the short rib and he's like, how long did you braise
- 31:05these for? And and and I was like a
- 31:09braises, a combination cooking method cooked for a long period
- 31:12of time. He's like, I didn't ask you what
- 31:14the definition was. I asked you how long did you
- 31:16braise it? And he says I said a a long
- 31:18period of time. And he's like, what's a long
- 31:20period of time? I said 20 minutes.
- 31:22He's like, right. So I got yelled at as chef's
- 31:26pissed thrown back in, you know, but but quite.
- 31:30Long. Yeah, but but I realized like,
- 31:33there's a lot of chefs over there that that'll tell you the
- 31:35fucking hydration and it and it's this percent that they
- 31:40can't fucking cook. That's correct.
- 31:41You know, like you tell me everything.
- 31:43You could tell me everything about cooking except you can't
- 31:45do it. It's the person who's read
- 31:47everything but never put it in practical use.
- 31:49And for me as a chef, like, you know what, I could write the
- 31:54menu, I could edit it. I don't, I don't need everyone
- 31:57on my team to tell me two percent, 3% like you're like I I
- 32:01need to know that you could you know what braise means like no,
- 32:04but you know how to braise. Not necessarily.
- 32:05You could tell me the definition.
- 32:07So. And feel free to be honest.
- 32:08That's that's something we can you know, if we want to save the
- 32:11world. Hey, chef, be honest.
- 32:13Yes, there's no harm and thing. I don't know.
- 32:15Don't I'm not going to come in front of you.
- 32:17Some some will because they have they they their man that's
- 32:19insecurity. They get made fun of it at the
- 32:21house with their woman and and they have to take it out of new.
- 32:23Absolutely. But it's OK to say I don't know.
- 32:27And people have a hard time. I say, chef, you know what we
- 32:29can do with that leftover tuna? Hey, we have this over here.
- 32:31How about we just make an invaltini out of that?
- 32:33You know what that is, right? Oh, yeah, it's OK.
- 32:36Hey, man, you know what I'm saying that anything popular
- 32:38feel free to be like. I, I, I'm not sure, Chef, What
- 32:40is that again? And it's a it's a small
- 32:42percentage of chefs, cooks in the kitchen, especially
- 32:44executive chef. You have a hard time like not
- 32:47knowing. I don't know.
- 32:47Dude, first of all, you won. You have the gig.
- 32:50It's 85 to $100,000 you're making.
- 32:53It's all good. You can.
- 32:54Hey, guys, I don't know what that is.
- 32:55What is that? Brent?
- 32:56Feel free to laugh at me. Yeah, well, you know what it is.
- 32:58Don't get paid if you want to be mature about it.
- 32:59Right, Right. Right.
- 33:00But but if there's no harm in saying, I don't know, Brent, run
- 33:03that by me again and don't lie and say, oh, it's been a while.
- 33:06It's OK, Brent, I don't know what you're talking about.
- 33:08When my last chef job, what I used to do, I used to I used to
- 33:12compete against my cooks and my sous chefs on purpose and and I
- 33:15would usually challenge them to things that I knew they could
- 33:18beat me in right. So it's like, let's just say
- 33:21they were super fast at making Brunois.
- 33:23I like I could Brunois faster than you like can you was like,
- 33:25even though I knew I could not, but I would compete against
- 33:29them. So I would lose like and so they
- 33:32could go and tell everyone I beat Chef Andre in the in the
- 33:35competition. I knew I was going to lose
- 33:37before the competition started. But one thing that it did 1 it
- 33:40made them puffed up. It made them feel good, right?
- 33:42Two, it let them know like I'm not afraid, like I'll I'll
- 33:45challenge anyone on like omelette, broomwash, Chuck and
- 33:48whatever I'm I'm in. But it immediately removed the
- 33:54fear of not knowing because everyone knew like, oh, Andreas
- 33:57humble. If he doesn't know, he knows a
- 33:58lot of shit, he doesn't know everything.
- 34:00And I'm OK with like, what is that?
- 34:04And so we used to have them come up with, you know, every every
- 34:07week I would have someone, a different person on my team.
- 34:09This was a pretty large team. Like teach us something.
- 34:12Teach us something we don't know.
- 34:13Like this week, it's on you. You need to teach us about
- 34:16Nixtomalai's fruit and from Mexico.
- 34:18You need to teach us about, you know, different hormones from
- 34:21Spain and what are the differences.
- 34:23So every every week's like we need to learn something because
- 34:25I used to say this, one of my chefs used to this.
- 34:29I still I'm a pretend. I used to say, I used to say one
- 34:31of us is not smarter than all of us, right?
- 34:33But the collective is really where the intelligence is.
- 34:35And when you have enough humility as a chef to step back
- 34:38and say, I don't know, that's when you could really learn.
- 34:40But I put this up on chef's PSA the other day.
- 34:43It's like the best chefs don't know everything.
- 34:45The worst ones do. That's so yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 34:48I remember one time this one guy was like he was drinking a so in
- 34:52French laundry didn't talk about the the confetti on the dish.
- 34:55So the guy that taught him about that was he must understood what
- 35:00confetti was. He said confit.
- 35:01He said break. Yeah, man, the play was
- 35:03beautiful. I took the Peppers and I confit
- 35:06it and then and I'm like, yeah, I was like my trip because he he
- 35:09was knowledgeable about a lot of stuff.
- 35:11Unfortunately, we'd be quoting the we quote things from the
- 35:13people that are are mentored. We quote things and they guess
- 35:16what, they were misunderstood on something too.
- 35:19And so now we're quoting them like his law.
- 35:21I don't care what it is, whoever says it, I'm a very big fan of
- 35:24like online researching it. If it's YouTube, it's that food
- 35:28lovers guide or whatever. I think that's very important
- 35:31because this guy's talking about confit.
- 35:32And I was like, and I had to, he's very smart.
- 35:35I was like SA he chef. I don't think it says
- 35:39respectfully. I said, I say, hey pimpin.
- 35:41I say mane. I said, I think you mean I think
- 35:45you mean confetti. Confit is the other other thing,
- 35:49but this, you mean confetti. Oh really?
- 35:51I thought it was. I thought it was confit said no,
- 35:53I think the guy that taught you he, he was understood.
- 35:57Now you're talking about you couldn't feed a bunch of bell
- 35:59Peppers for a garnish because that's what you know, because we
- 36:02read the French line drawing. There's a confetti section and
- 36:06the guy that taught him was broke, had broken English.
- 36:09So he just took it in. So what happens is the executive
- 36:12was immense of the susha. Whoever's above us or even
- 36:15knowledgeable, maybe whatever we they say, we take it as law,
- 36:18like, Oh, that's what it is. Without researching.
- 36:20I'm a big fan of my wife videos. I didn't know why I didn't know
- 36:24why this is called what it's called where to come from that
- 36:27way. It makes me a better chef.
- 36:28I think it makes you a better you can you can write many that
- 36:31better because you can call because pesto means pounded.
- 36:34So it's like I could if I want to say, Hey, I'd you know, this
- 36:37is a such a such pesto. It doesn't pesto nowadays.
- 36:40It means, you know, the the pine nuts and nuts or the pine nuts
- 36:43and the basin oil cheese or whatever.
- 36:45But, you know, according to the definition, you know what I'm
- 36:48saying. So you don't.
- 36:50Nowadays that's what it means. But it doesn't.
- 36:54Yeah. So.
- 36:55And you're from Italy? I I was spent four years there.
- 36:58I grew up like I remember everything from from Naples,
- 37:00right? Three to seven.
- 37:01Yes, yeah. Yeah, so when people say, oh,
- 37:03what does Brett know about Italy?
- 37:04Brett knows about Italy. I remember going into
- 37:07restaurants and that's hospitality.
- 37:08I remember the smell of that guy.
- 37:09I don't know if I'm gonna be a chef when I got older and I
- 37:11really held on to that. And then we moved to Izmir,
- 37:14Turkey. I really held on to hospitality.
- 37:17Yeah, we walked. They didn't look at like, oh,
- 37:19man, hey, man, Table 3. No, these guys are just very
- 37:21nice across the board and the hospitality, you know, So I I
- 37:24took from that, I applied that as I got older, like, yeah, I
- 37:28want to have a restaurant where people walk into a restaurant
- 37:31like like how how I did when it enables Italy and how it was
- 37:34born and. How was the How was the pizza?
- 37:37Do you remember the pizza? I remember the pizza.
- 37:39I remember everything was just really, really delicious, man.
- 37:41I don't you. Know you have French fries on
- 37:42the pizza? There was no French fries on the
- 37:44pizza, chef. I do remember they could put
- 37:47French fries on the pizza. I do remember, I do remember
- 37:50that Gelato was really warm. I remember really.
- 37:52Yeah. Because what they what they did
- 37:54was back in those days, they're they're they was using corn,
- 37:59they was using slurs and corn. They would add corn starch.
- 38:01So they're all all the Italian cookbooks you'll see cornstarch
- 38:04and gelatos. Yeah, So let me ask you a
- 38:06question. So you're talking about
- 38:08sometimes chefs need to get their egos in check and be
- 38:10humble and and be OK with not knowing that that's really the
- 38:13true path to learning. But you see this a lot online.
- 38:16I mean, I deal with people, you deal with people.
- 38:21Someone, someone commenting some some stupid shit.
- 38:24So related but unrelated, how do you deal with how do you deal
- 38:27with haters online? And then how do you deal with
- 38:29haters in the kitchen? So two different, two different.
- 38:31Answers get Evers online then you can easily it it it stings.
- 38:35Words hurt no matter how you slice it.
- 38:37So when people say like one guy found me because of my muscle,
- 38:39he said I was in my tweezer video.
- 38:41I have like two people talk crazy.
- 38:43It's like thousands of people shared it.
- 38:44Only two people talk crazy to me.
- 38:46One guy was like, you know, if they want to put tweezers all
- 38:48over their self, you should let them be them, you know, and this
- 38:51other guy was like, hey man, your mustache.
- 38:52Well, you don't have no mustache.
- 38:53You look silly. And I was like, I just I give
- 38:55him a Bible verse about how to get saved.
- 38:58That's why I stuck it to him. And so you said something on
- 39:01your story one time. He was like, yeah, I'm just too
- 39:02quick to actually have a say. By the way, he said I have, he
- 39:05said I'm just too quick to the block button.
- 39:07So that's you can just do it that way, you know, and, and
- 39:10what I've been doing lately, honestly, I, I, I give them the
- 39:13sweet and sour treatment. I give them the sour like, hey,
- 39:16man, are you serious? Like, dude, I like girls and
- 39:18you're up in my page. I'm in the girls that clearly, I
- 39:20don't know what message I sent you, but I kind of clown them a
- 39:22little bit. And I said, but, but I said on
- 39:25another no man, phenomenal work on that.
- 39:27Your art page is really crazy. Oh my goodness.
- 39:29And I'll say like, I'll say that I'll give him a huge compliment.
- 39:33I was like, hey man, you really like lived in Switzerland for
- 39:35like 4 years me. And I wish I thought so I'll
- 39:37give him the sweet and sour. I give him the sour.
- 39:39Like dude, are you kidding me right now?
- 39:41Like I'm at least mine. I I'll get really personal I and
- 39:44I'll find out that like, you know.
- 39:45It's a good tactic. I get really personal.
- 39:46I give him a sweet and sour treat.
- 39:47You you give him a good bollocking.
- 39:49Yeah. And then you hit him with that
- 39:50sweet, like phenomenal work on that.
- 39:52But how many Michelin have you? Are you have you worked there or
- 39:56do you have your own spot or like, man, next time?
- 39:58Hey, man, we come to Dallas. I would love to.
- 40:00And every one of them, they change their tune.
- 40:03Oh, sorry about. I'm sorry about that.
- 40:05I was too aggressive the other day, man.
- 40:06And yeah, not my bad, bro. I just, I just kid.
- 40:08I don't like it when people make fun of people with tweezers.
- 40:12I don't like it when people don't because I have.
- 40:15I have a video where the sink was overflowing.
- 40:16Yeah. Yeah.
- 40:17I had to say, hey, man, I couldn't cut it off.
- 40:19But I want to show this person. And I had a whole reason for
- 40:21doing that. I want to let that do.
- 40:22New cooks, like, yo, you need to clean this stuff up, but no
- 40:25sweet and sour treatment. And then haters in the kitchen.
- 40:27Yeah, sometimes you have to. Do we go go watch a gangster
- 40:32movie? Yeah.
- 40:33Shoulder to shoulder. Get close.
- 40:36Clearly. Amen.
- 40:36Clearly I upset you. What?
- 40:37What's going on with what's what's the real issue here?
- 40:39What's what's going on? I'm here for you.
- 40:40Is is it your your girlfriend or what's?
- 40:42What happened? Is is the chef getting on to
- 40:44you? I clearly haven't done nothing
- 40:45to you. If I have done something.
- 40:46I'm sorry. I love you.
- 40:47That's that's a cheat code. Tell tell another cook you love
- 40:49him. I'm sorry.
- 40:51Tell them you love them. I mean, that's serious because
- 40:53whatever hatred and they envy to wherever they have up and
- 40:56they're trying to like a print. You called us to Julianne or my
- 40:59bad master Love you, man. Hey.
- 41:00How's your how's your mother doing?
- 41:01She's I've been praying for her lately.
- 41:03I've been been to this here. I prayed for her that they
- 41:05should go. Oh yes, Yeah, man.
- 41:07She thank you, Seth. They changed her tune.
- 41:09Yeah, and whatever beef you have, she was a gone.
- 41:11You tell them you love them. Tell them that you're sorry you
- 41:13offended them. I don't mean no harmony except
- 41:15I'm trying to do the best I can right here.
- 41:17By the way, man, how many girls did them pull that car you
- 41:20bought? I just give them a sweet and
- 41:21sour shower treatment. You learn how to negotiate
- 41:24together like the gangster feel eye contact shoulder to
- 41:26shoulder. Hey man, what's going on here
- 41:28'cause I I few people I talked to, I had I had a rough like
- 41:31this. I said what's going on there?
- 41:32I know the purple vision caught it and one guy he cleaned his
- 41:35tune up real quick. He he got so-called angry over
- 41:40some. So the chef we worked for he he
- 41:42was talking about it Brent Bakerville stock.
- 41:44But I want you to dice the carrots.
- 41:46Yes, chef Buff, what was you saying?
- 41:49Like I don't agree with that, but it's his place.
- 41:52I'm I'm not checking for that. But yes, chef, the newer cook,
- 41:55he gets around me because he worked with other famous people
- 41:58in the city in hot shots. He goes, Brent, what are you
- 42:00doing? Very angry tone.
- 42:02And he goes, I think, bro, what are you doing?
- 42:05And I said, yeah, homeboy wants us to cut the the carrots this
- 42:08way. And he wants us to he wants us
- 42:10to find dice the the miracle for the veal stock for three days.
- 42:13Chef, why are you doing it as a chef?
- 42:15This is not me doing it. This is the chef.
- 42:17Chef told me to do it this way. Yeah, but I don't understand.
- 42:21He kept on mouthing up. I walked around the corner to
- 42:23the tilt skillet and it was brewing.
- 42:25And it was brewing. I was like, I had to knock this
- 42:27guy out over some carrots. And I thought about it.
- 42:30Yeah, that's like, it's worth it.
- 42:31I walked around the corner and he went to he was cleaning off
- 42:34his his hands. I got right on his station.
- 42:37He had to face me. I say check this out, man.
- 42:40If whenever you have your own restaurant, you cannot give him
- 42:42a big old paragraph. I gave him the whole like, you
- 42:44know, hey, this ain't our show. If you want your own situation,
- 42:48you can have AI. Do I I agree with you, chef.
- 42:51I agree with you, but this ain't my show.
- 42:53And if you went out, I was talking like this, I was like
- 42:55you, I was like going back. You feel me?
- 42:57You you got me whatever and you're like, yeah, I got you.
- 42:59All right. I think I had it.
- 43:01I think it was purple invasion. He saw it and then and I was
- 43:05like 5 minutes later. I was like, I got to work four
- 43:07more hours with this guy. I hate tension.
- 43:09So I walked around the corner. Chef, he needs to work
- 43:11mushrooms, prep, Pierce, whatever.
- 43:13You, you bring up something interesting because a lot of
- 43:16cooks they, they get wrapped up and I worked here and here and
- 43:20here and it drives them crazy when they see something done
- 43:22different. Like, like you're saying this
- 43:24guy, this guy exists. This girl exists in, in so many
- 43:27kitchens. Like how dare they, They're
- 43:29they're doing it wrong. They don't know what they're
- 43:31doing. Chef Chef is dumb because he's
- 43:33telling them to. And it blows my mind that people
- 43:36don't understand. Like, there's not really a right
- 43:39way. There's not really a right.
- 43:41Like whatever end result that the chef wants, that's the right
- 43:45way. The you have French, the French
- 43:48there, they take pride in like clear, you know, stocks and that
- 43:51kind of stuff. Make sure you don't roll it.
- 43:52And guess what? Asia rolls out a lot of time.
- 43:55But I'm sorry, they got they got more than everybody.
- 43:58Right. So what you were saying about
- 44:01this screenshot, this thing that I said, So what I said was I
- 44:05don't reward bad behavior with my attention and I don't argue
- 44:08with idiots. So if someone's an idiot and
- 44:10they, they say something stupid, I, I'm not even going to
- 44:13respond. Like I'm not like it's not worth
- 44:15my time. I don't argue with idiots.
- 44:16It's a stupid opinion. It's a stupid comment.
- 44:19It's a stupid opinion. But if it's an offensive, if it,
- 44:22if it's offensive, like I said, I don't reward bad behavior with
- 44:24my attention. So that means if someone says
- 44:26something that like, you know what?
- 44:29I don't allow people to disrespect me in real life.
- 44:31Let alone. Let alone online because like, I
- 44:37mean, you remember what it was like before the Internet.
- 44:39There's like if you said what you said to me online in in, in
- 44:43real life, you knew like before you said it, you like, can I
- 44:49take this guy like before you, even before it even came out of
- 44:51your mouth, You'd have to think, can I take this one because I
- 44:53know that those are fighting wars.
- 44:54This is where it's leading. Yeah, like that.
- 44:56Like do I do I think I got a shot because I know that this is
- 44:59the point of no return. And we're beyond the point of no
- 45:02return online every single day. And we think that's OK.
- 45:06And it's like, you know what if you wouldn't say that?
- 45:09And the reason I don't clap back because I, I, I, I really don't
- 45:11like people will say shit. I, I very rarely, very rarely,
- 45:15because I know it's like, man, I don't know what this person's
- 45:18going through. If, if that's who you want to be
- 45:20on my page, like I didn't ask you to follow me.
- 45:22I, I just, I, I, I could do you a favor and block you.
- 45:24Is that what? You don't have to see my shit.
- 45:26You don't have to, you don't ever have to see my face again.
- 45:28I'm going to do you a favor. That's just how I look at it.
- 45:31But I want to talk about hip hop.
- 45:32So I know you were a DJ and I know you like hip hop.
- 45:35I like hip hop. So if you had, if you had to say
- 45:36like who are the greatest? Well, first of all, who who are
- 45:40the greatest artists? Give me the three greatest hip
- 45:42hop artists, just three in your opinion.
- 45:45And then what are the three greatest albums?
- 45:48All right, so at the gate, my favorite of all the time was the
- 45:51beast of boys. I know the only we got how much
- 45:53time we have. I got the beast was my favorite.
- 45:55That's a group. You said you want individual.
- 45:57I mean, you know, like the beast of boys loose rules.
- 46:01They OK, cool. The beast of boys is my favorite
- 46:04because of the the brotherhood on the same page.
- 46:07They didn't have a bunch of they're not known to be falling
- 46:11out left and right and if they had any babes, they got cleared
- 46:13up really quickly. They play their own instruments,
- 46:15All of them DJ all of them get behind a turntable and do do
- 46:18whatever they often cut. They all can be all playing
- 46:21instruments. They all have their honest to
- 46:22themselves. It was because of the Beastie
- 46:24Boys. They're like, Hey, guys, check
- 46:25this out. We have all this talent.
- 46:27Why are we because they did like the the the cookie plus stuff
- 46:31and then they went to license to I'll.
- 46:33Cookie plus like. Yeah, no ice cream cake.
- 46:36You doing cookie puss stuff? No, they had an album called
- 46:39Cookie Puss. Just like Carvel.
- 46:42I don't know what is carvel. Carvel ice cream cakes like
- 46:44Fudgie the whale, Cookie Puss I. Yeah, no, it's a whole album
- 46:47called that. It was.
- 46:48They were pranking. You can hear Mike D like, hey,
- 46:52hello, is Cookie Puss there? You know, and they were.
- 46:54So you know, you know Carvel ice cream cakes, right?
- 46:56So there's this company, Carvel, they make ice cream cakes and
- 46:59they have Cookie Puss, which is like a face made out of ice
- 47:02cream. Yeah.
- 47:03Anyway. No, no.
- 47:04Yeah. So so you know, they they're all
- 47:06comedians, they're all pranksters.
- 47:07They all think they are on the same page.
- 47:09They do things in house. Don't get me wrong, like any
- 47:13other check your head album, They were like, Hey, like, hey,
- 47:14let's get let's get a let's just let's go back to this.
- 47:17So let's you know, they just do things in house and they just
- 47:20put on a great show. They love hip hop of the the
- 47:24hello nasty album. When you listen to it, they had
- 47:26they saw that old, old school nights and early 80s flow.
- 47:29So you just love what they do and so.
- 47:31So would you say your top three artists are all all three are in
- 47:34the Beastie Boys and your top three?
- 47:36Man 'cause he's you dude. Run the MC and EPMDI don't beat
- 47:40nuts. Like I mean I, you know, Gang
- 47:43Starr like I don't, I don't really.
- 47:45Who do you think's the better producer, Rizza or Premier?
- 47:48Did you see their verse? Oh, good head.
- 47:49I saw it man. I listen more from I do this to
- 47:57our premiere stuff. Rizza is extremely intelligent,
- 48:00but I'm really premieres. He does a lot of scratch and
- 48:02that's my thing. Yeah, so I would.
- 48:04Someone posted the other day on social media.
- 48:06I thought it was good. I'm gonna steal it.
- 48:07They said once Rizza learned how to play instruments, it was his
- 48:11downfall. Like, like it was that like
- 48:15after 97, like music just wasn't as good as before.
- 48:18Once he understood music, him him understanding music was the
- 48:22worst thing that happened to him.
- 48:23Yeah, I I would go with Premiere because I love scratching and
- 48:27Premiere made sure and when people was getting away from
- 48:29scratching, he kept it and so. All right, last question, chef,
- 48:33if you had a chef's PSA out there for cooks to start doing
- 48:36or stop doing, what's what's Brent's chef's PSAI?
- 48:39Think it's on take time. I think you need to know exactly
- 48:43it's going to take time, but know what each each ingredient
- 48:46does do what it does. Why?
- 48:48Why is pink the reason why I am the way I am?
- 48:51And I'm not afraid of pastries because my mom gave me a pancake
- 48:54recipe and I'm like, OK, what's the difference between baking
- 48:57soda and baking powder? I had to go research it.
- 48:59What's the difference? Why is it OK?
- 49:00There's clarified butter and I started to understand.
- 49:02I had I had a pancake recipe and then I'm putting it together
- 49:06because I had to memorize like, why does it look this way?
- 49:09I had to put the egg and then no one time I'm like, well, why
- 49:11does it look this way? Oh, that's what clarified, but I
- 49:13didn't put the butter in. Why does it taste?
- 49:16Oh, when I put I winged the baking soda and I was like, Oh,
- 49:19a little goes a long way and I had to figure out like what
- 49:22baking soda was good? Why you added to certain things.
- 49:25And so understanding what each ingredient does in life,
- 49:28different types of rices do different types of results.
- 49:31You know, you want to have like a the Uncle Ben white rice
- 49:34risotto, what it's not going to work with that kind of rice.
- 49:36You need to get something. There's others that's extremely
- 49:39started like understand what each ingredient does, protein
- 49:42does, what sears, what doesn't what you know what I mean?
- 49:45And I think no, no, it's going to take time, but understand and
- 49:50go home, do some homework because after you learn what you
- 49:52learn at work, feel free to go buy a fish.
- 49:55Go buy it, you know. I saw a video of you butcher and
- 49:57a fish. It's funny because you were
- 49:59teaching someone and I saw it on on YouTube, I think, yeah.
- 50:03And I was like, it's funny because I was like, that's how I
- 50:05teach. So I was like a patriot.
- 50:07Guy he's a he's a he's a quick learner and you know, and I just
- 50:12no one taught. No one was really patient with
- 50:14me. I grew up in I had I was a
- 50:15remedial class all my life. Like Long story short, I don't
- 50:18even tell the story, but I the only reason why I graduated high
- 50:21school since my mom worked there my high school year and I
- 50:23flunked that little toss chest. I flunked it, flunked it, but I
- 50:26passed the writings I got to was trying to let me know something,
- 50:29but I flunked it bad. And then my mom says like, yeah,
- 50:32Brent, he, my son, he didn't pass that toss test.
- 50:35You have a son that goes here. Oh, they just went up there and
- 50:38exempt me. So that's the only way I'm so
- 50:40with me. I know how to talk to people.
- 50:42I I don't talk about. They're dumb.
- 50:44I explain how things were to explain to me.
- 50:47And so I'm pretty good about teaching because I know how to
- 50:51go about things in a gentle type of chilling way because I'm not
- 50:54academically just it ain't happening.
- 50:56Yeah. We could talk about so much,
- 50:58Chef, I want to talk chess. I want to talk more about hip
- 51:01hop. I want to talk about your
- 51:02favorite cereals. But we'll have to save that for
- 51:04the next episode. Part 2.
- 51:06Where can people find you? Not to be that guy would think
- 51:09of Google Brent weather. Brent eats food is the
- 51:12Instagram. Brent eats food.
- 51:13All right, chef. Good to you man.
- 51:14My little man, I appreciate you. Yeah.
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