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How the Super Bowl reminds Americans what it takes to win · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  We are faith and fury.
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  Love and fire.
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  This is the human equation where every voice counts and every truth cuts deep.
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  With your host, Joseph Panker.
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  Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the human equation.
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  I'm your host, Joseph Penker.
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  So our country has seen some interesting things in the past couple of weeks or since we've been together last.
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  We've had a national event.
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  Actually, two national events.
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  One is supposed to be really good, and one unfortunately is very, very bad.
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  So of course I'm talking about the Super Bowl.
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  You know, the Super Bowl.
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  This has become a quintessential American event that is shown to people around the world.
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  As the NFL starts to expand, and you know, they're playing games in Europe now every year.
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  The teams are going over, and I think they did a game in Ireland last year.
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  They do a game in uh in Germany, I think, you know, they went they went to Europe.
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  They're trying to spread their brand around, and that's what they're supposed to do.
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  That's what a business does.
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  And it's good.
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  The more people that are into it, the better.
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  I don't know if I'm going to like if it really takes off in Europe, and they want to have uh, you know, the uh the German team or uh an Irish team to play for the the Super Bowl, right?
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  Now, it is the world champion, so I guess we would have to deal with it.
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  But I don't know if I want that.
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  I like it being an American thing.
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  And that is an important part, I think of it.
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  It's like I said, it's quintessentially American.
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  There are so many lessons that we see in the game of football, and in all of sports, uh, actually.
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  You know, sports, uh, George Will once said that sports are a vivid example of excellence.
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  Because normally there's there's nothing else involved.
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  It is one person or a group of people pitted against other people, and their skills are honed.
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  They have fundamentals of their sport, whatever sport it be, whether it's curling, you know, you know, wiping the ice with a broom as the as the thing comes down the ice, or whether it's National Football League.
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  And you have running, catching, kicking, all of these different physical uh activities.
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  Now, what's great about it is that you do see these amazing stories in the background of the athletes, because I think it is so pure.
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  Even like right now, we also have the Olympics going on in uh in Milan, Courtina, you know, in Milan.
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  And we're seeing the best of the best of the world.
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  And and that's I think that's good.
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  That's you know, that hearkens back to the to the days of uh ancient Greece when they had you know people from all over the I guess the kingdoms come and try and compete and see who was the best, and you know, to see the best of the best.
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  So, with this NFL, because it is so American, there's a little controversy over the most recent Super Bowl.
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  Super Bowl 60, right?
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  Well, first of all, the game was kind of boring.
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  Uh the playoffs were good.
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  The season was good, but the playoffs were, you know, there's some really really good close games.
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  There was some games that show you the human element involved in a sport, and that is you have these referees out there making judgment calls on what they see in front of them.
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  Now, in the days before we had instant replay, we only went by what the referees saw, their impressions of what they saw, their own eyes and ears to dictate whether somebody was inbounds or out of bounds.
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  Did they catch the ball or not catch the ball?
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  Did they get over the line or not get over the line?
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  All of these kind of things.
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  Now, it became obvious when we saw uh a couple of blatant really bad calls in the 70s and in the 80s.
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  We saw some, not because they were corrupt, but because from their angle, it looked like the person was in or the person was out, or they dropped the ball or they didn't drop the ball, or it touched the ground, it didn't touch the ground.
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  So they went to the uh instant replay, where you could challenge, and then they look at a camera and they could see for sure.
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  Now that kind of goes along the idea of you'd be get you'd be getting the most pure truth of the incident.
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  You know, if somebody catches the ball and they're legitimately inbounds, then that should count as a catch, right?
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  That's the whole idea.
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  But if somebody stepped out even by a hair, then they should be out.
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  The catch doesn't count, and that's really hard to take sometime unless you see the actual evidence.
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  So we went to that.
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  But the human element was always the coaches and the referees and the players and the people on the field making calls.
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  And I think that is one of the things, whether it's baseball or soccer or any of the sports, where we see actual human beings doing their best.
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  So when we look to other than the NFL, let's look at the college football.
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  I recently there was the college championships, and there was a young man quarterback of Indiana, and supposed to be really, really great, and the kid had a great faith, right?
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  A got a very great God-based faith, and so did his family, and he was very loving to his family.
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  So his backstory was very interesting, how he devoted himself to family, to God, and to being the best he could be.
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  And then to watch this young man at the end of the game make this amazing play, this this leap of faith, so to speak, to get over the end zone and win the game was absolutely it was a it's thrilling.
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  Even if you don't like the other team, you have to look at them and say, Wow, that was great.
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  You know, when I was growing up, my older, older ages, you know, as a young father and whatever, I always loved football.
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  We watched football, my boys and I and my daughter watched football.
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  And Tom Brady was our arch enemy because I'm in New Jersey, well, they're not New Jersey, New York, even though the stadium's in New Jersey, the New York Giants.
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  Uh big fans of the New York Giants.
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  Why?
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  Because they're our local team, you know, so you kind of you kind of stick with those you know.
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  I like the Jets, my son Alex was a Jets fan.
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  My son Joe was a Giants fan.
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  I was always a Giants fan growing up.
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  So I like the New York teams.
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  They disappoint every year because they don't seem to be going anywhere, but that's besides the point.
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  You know, when we when we watch these teams, and and we were always foiled by Tom Brady.
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  He was so good.
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  This guy was such a a tremendous athlete, a tremendous field general, and he won and won, right?
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  He won the most Super Bowls of any any player of all.
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  He's just absolutely amazing.
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  But he was our arch enemy, right?
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  Over time, though, I had to look at Tom Brady and say, even though he's my arch enemy because he beats my team all the time.
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  I have got to respect the fact that this guy is the best of the best.
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  I mean, when you were watching him, uh once I started to realize this, I had to say, any chance I had to watch the New England Patriots or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when he was there.
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  To watch this guy was to watch excellence, to watch the best of the best do what they do.
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  He's really uh an amazing thing, and that's what sports gives us, right?
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  There was nothing else involved other than this guy tried the hardest, he thought through it, he worked, he was disciplined, he was amazing.
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  That's what sports gives us.
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  And the backstories of our athletes are also very interesting.
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  I always loved the backstorm of the Super Bowl players.
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  Now I'm talking about the Super Bowl because that's what we're we're just dealing with recently.
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  But you know, you talk about World Series or the and the Stanley Cup to a smaller extent, not as many people are hockey fans, but the hockey's an amazing sport.
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  But we hear these backstories.
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  Just like we hear the backstories of the uh Olympic athletes, and we hear their personal stories, we hear their familial stories as they go out there and they they compete at the highest level in the world, right?
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  So watching our American athletes.
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  Now, I I like the Olympics.
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  I think it's fun.
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  It's it's not the same.
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  I don't sit and like count my day around uh, you know, what time are the Olympics coming on today?
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  I have to sit and watch.
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  But I do enjoy when I have the time and I'm watching it.
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  I I love to watch people at their best, and I think that's what it comes down to.
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  So the other night I was watching, and you know, you see the Scandinavian figure skater team, and you say, Oh, you know, it's it's amazing.
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  Like I can't skate like that, can you?
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  It's so expressive, you know, it's it's just amazing.
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  And then you'd see uh, you know, the English team and you watch them, and then you see the Japanese team and you watch them.
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  But there was something special that you would feel when the Americans would go out there.
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  You'd see the red, white, and blue, you'd see the parents, you'd see these uh two young people representing our country.
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  You know, they were for all intents and purposes, they were you and me out there because they're representing America to the rest of the world.
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  And
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  They wouldn't necessarily just be the best.
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  They'd have to actually be the best.
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  So watching watching our skaters or our um our skiers or the hockey teams or whatever is just an absolutely thrilling and amazing part of sports.
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  And that's what I think is so good.
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  So we just had this Super Bowl.
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  Now, granted, this particular Super Bowl, Super Bowl 60 will probably go down as one of the most boring Super Bowls of all time.
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  You had the uh New England Patriots who had a tremendous year, especially with their new young quarterback.
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  The kid's only 23 or 24 years old, he's two years out of college.
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  He's a kid.
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  And here he is taking his team to the to the national championship, to the world championship of football.
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  And then we had the other quarterback on the other side, uh, Sam Darnold.
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  This guy, I watched him when he was a New York Jet, and he seemed like he was probably good, but he had no team around him.
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  And because he had no team around him, he failed.
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  He could not win game after game.
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  He couldn't make great passes.
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  He couldn't make great runs.
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  He couldn't do any of that, which is another one of the many, many lessons that sports teach us.
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  So you might have somebody like a Tom Brady, who is just the best of the best of a quarterback.
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  But if he didn't have a great center, if he didn't have great blockers, if he didn't have great ends and running backs and great coaches, Tom Brady would have had a mediocre career.
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  He was blessed that he had such national, I mean, such uh amazing talent that he could drive the team forward, which was, you know, good because he could make in a in a clutch moment, he could make the uh the pass that needed to be made.
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  If everyone else did their job.
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  So you start to see that while you might be individually really awesome, unless you're doing something that just counts on you, like you're doing a solo kind of a thing.
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  Uh if you're part of a team, any kind of a team, a team at work, a team at school, a team at church, a team anywhere, you need everyone around you.
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  There are no unimportant uh parts in a team.
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  Every part is important, and you would see that.
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  I remember watching a commercial um back when I was younger.
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  I had to be maybe mid-teens or whatever, and I was watching, you know, football again.
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  Uh this is where I'm talking about here.
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  And Dan Marino was just an amazing quarterback.
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  Never won a Super Bowl, but what an amazing quarterback this guy was.
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  And I remember there was a commercial at the holiday time that uh I'm trying to think of the name of the gloves, isotoner gloves, I think they were.
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  They were a big deal for a while in the 70s and the 80s.
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  Isotoner gloves, they're probably still around out there.
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  But they were considered, you know, really good gloves to have.
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  And, you know, you always hear about, you know, the quarterback in the center.
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  You don't hear about the linemen, the center, the right tackles, the left tackles, the guards, you know, you don't hear about those guys.
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  And I remember this commercial where he came out and he bought isotoner gloves for everybody on his line because he was trying to be appreciative of the job that they were doing because he couldn't have been great if they didn't do their job and if they weren't great at their individual positions.
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  So my point being is that sports is all about being excellent, the fundamentals of the sport.
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  You know, uh, I I teach a lot.
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  I teach police officers and school people and business people, safety and security kind of things.
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  And when I talk to them, I I always say, Did anybody ever play sports?
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  You know, people raise their hands, and what do you play?
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  Oh, I played soccer, what'd you play?
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  I played football, I played baseball, whatever, softball.
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  And I say, the first day you went out there, were you the best of the best?
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  And they all chuckle and say, No, I wasn't.
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  I said, What did you have to learn?
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  And you're like, Well, everything.
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  Well, what do you mean?
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  You had to learn the fundamentals of the game, right?
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  You had to learn your basic stance, your athletic stance.
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  You had to learn balance, you had to learn uh turning and moving and catching and and throwing and kicking, all these things you had to learn to be good at your sport, and it was a challenge personally.
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  But we all, if we're involved in any kind of a thing, have all or have to learn our fundamentals first.
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  I played guitar.
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  You know, I was younger, I thought I was gonna be a rock star, and I played guitar and I had a nice band and we had a lot of fun.
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  I didn't know how to play guitar at first.
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  I remember watching someone else who could play guitar, and first of all, it was amazing to me.
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  There was a young man named Vinny, Vince uh Kupo was a young man in my grade in my class, and Vin and I were friends, and I knew Vinny, he played the um, he played the the violin.
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  That was what we knew the guy played the violin.
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  He was in whatever band we had in school and he played violin.
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  Had no idea that he also played guitar.
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  And then we were having a holiday party, I don't remember what holiday it was, and I think it was sixth grade, and Vinny and his friend Tony, who played drums are like, hey, we have we have a little uh group.
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  Can we come and play at the party?
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  Sure, come and play at the party.
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  Well, Vinny was a uh a very, very nice young man.
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  He was polite to everybody.
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  Uh, but he was he was kind of just like like a regular guy, you know, him and Tony were regular guys.
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  They were not, you know, superstar athletes or anything like that.
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  Well, they came in, they set up their equipment, and they started playing.
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  And it was amazing to hear them play in time together.
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  Vinny singing, and it sounded like the song he was playing.
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  And it would the class, the whole class, were just amazed that these two guys that were in our class, we had no idea they had this talent.
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  It was really thrilling, so much so that I saw this, and and like I said, Vinny and Tony and I, we were friends, and uh when they took a break, I went over and said, you know what?
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  I think I'm gonna be your manager.
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  I'm gonna get you more gigs.
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  You know, and that was a big deal when you're when you're in sixth grade, you think that means something.
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  But I remember asking Vinny, hey, could you teach me how to play?
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  And I went over his house and we're hanging out, and he had this beautiful Fender Telecaster Deluxe, which is a special kind of uh Fender Telecaster, which is a very famous guitar, if anybody knows guitars.
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  But the telecaster deluxe was unique.
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  It was this Cocoa Brown, and it was just so beautiful of an instrument.
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  And I remember him saying, here, you want to try it?
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  And he showed me a couple of chords.
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  He showed me some fundamental things about holding the guitar.
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  Now we weren't sitting there having a lesson like you would think, you know, teacher and student.
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  He was a friend of mine, and he's like, Yeah, yeah, this is cool, hold the guitar.
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  What the hell did I know?
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  I'm I've got my hands in the wrong place, and he says, No, no, this is where you put your hand, this is what you do.
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  Let me show you a basic chord.
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  You put my finger on the chords, and I remember stroking the the strings with the pick and hearing it come out sounding like a cord instead of coming out sounding all jumbled up because someone took the time to show me, and then I wanted to learn, right?
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  The fundamental of learning.
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  And from that, uh, I remember going home and saying, I thought that was cool.
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  I could actually do this, maybe.
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  I could be playing music.
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  I could be doing, you know.
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  So I went and I bugged my mother and father till they got me uh acoustic guitar, and I spent time playing the guitar.
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  I sat in my room for hours, strumming the guitar, trying to do the basics, the fundamental chords.
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  G, A, D, E.
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  If I could do those, I could probably learn because I watched Vinny play.
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  And most of the songs he played were three or four chords, right?
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  And that's what you find that rock and roll is three to four chords, right?
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  It's really pretty basic music.
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  It's not, you know, not Bach or Beethoven.
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  But I could say, oh, I could do this.
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  I and I started playing.
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  Next thing I know, I could actually play the guitar.
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  And then I started to improvise over time.
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  I started to move between chords.
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  So my my point here is that as human beings, part of the human equation, is that we can learn things are important.
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  Uh, we learn fundamentals, and then we move forward.
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  So that's that's my talk about you know the basics of humanity, uh, moving into any anything that we need to do.
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  Doesn't matter if you want to learn how to cook a turkey, you better learn the fundamentals of cooking, the heat of the oven, how you put the food, the paying the way you put it in, the blah blah blah blah.
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  Everything has fundamentals, and that's what I learned.
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  So, this is uh a long way around.
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  I wanted to cover that thought because when I I watched the Super Bowl, it is the it is the top dog.
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  It is the biggest thing of the NFL, which has become huge, like they say baseball is the national pastime, but football's the most popular, right?
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  And how many people love football around the world?
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  They're watching it, you know.
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  I I love seeing during the game and they flash to our military all around the world watching the Super Bowl.
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  It's something that brings us all together.
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  And this is where I'm gonna move into my my point that I wanted to make about Super Bowl, on top of the excellence that it reveals, was the halftime show.
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  Let's talk about the halftime show at the NFL.
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  Now, I remember being younger and watching Super Bowl, and you know, you watched the game, you enjoyed the game, it's your team, it's not your team, you like another team because your team didn't make it.
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  But halftime was always a time to get up and you know.
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  Go get something to eat or go you serve the food or to go get a drink or do something.
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  As a kid, when you go to high school football games, right?
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  You go there and you're watching your school team and you're rooting for halftime.
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  The band came out and gave a little entertainment while everyone was running around getting their hot dogs or potato chips or whatever.
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  And the band would go out and play.
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  And it was supposed to be a little bit of entertainment.
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  Well, when I was younger, they did kind of goofy stuff at halftime to fill the time and give people a chance to, you know, get go get the food.
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  Well, now the halftime show has become a huge event in the world of entertainment.
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  In the world of entertainment, if you are asked to play at the uh halftime of Super Bowl, there are a billion eyeballs that are going to be on you.
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  You can rise or fall to greatness.
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  And this coincides.
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  This connects with what I was talking about at the beginning about sports being great.
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  Well, that moment in the middle of this uh gigantic event of Super Bowl, which is supposed to be the best of the best.
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  There is also the halftime show.
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  And if you're invited to be there, you have a moment that you can shine.
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  And you can you can see your career take off to eat higher heights than it ever was, even if you're already famous, or you can really flub it and like blow your opportunity.
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  So this particular Super Bowl halftime, the last I don't know, five years or so since COVID, we have seen the NFL really-wise, and I don't mean team leadership, I mean leadership of the league.
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  We have seen them really go left, go progressive, go liberal with their their actions and things that they do with the teams and with the leagues.
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  And it's it's almost antithetical to red, white, and blue, red-blooded America, you know?
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  Um and I think, as I as I look on it, and I look and I see them do all remember that, you know, uh following along with Black Lives Matter, and everybody had stuff on their helmets and all the, you know, we all are team peace, no racism.
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  Those are all good thoughts.
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  Nobody wants racism.
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  That's bad.
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  Nobody wants that.
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  Are we all in this together?
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  We are.
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  So I I kind of get the idea.
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  But the reason they were doing it is because the audience uh for football and the players of football are very diverse group of people.
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  So I think the thinking, this I'm guessing.
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  The thinking was, you know, how do we how do we appeal to larger groups than just the traditional groups that like football?
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  Right?
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  How do we reach out outreach to them?
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  Which is part of the liberal mindset, is that it's not a bad idea.
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  Normally, with progressive liberal ideas, they have a the an essence of a good idea.
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  It's in their execution that there's a problem.
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  How they go about executing their idea.
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  Wait, okay, people don't want to go along with this, well, then we'll make them go along with it.
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  It's actually the left, for all their running around and chanting and jumping up and down about conservatives and people on the right being um dictators and fascists.
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  It's actually the left that are the dictators and the fascists.
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  And we saw that in the NFL.
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  You know, the kneeling.
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  Everyone had to kneel.
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  And if you if you said anything against the kneeling, then you were uh then you were bad.
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  You had to be a racist if you didn't think everyone should kneel, right?
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  And it it really took on a life of its own, and it got very, very uncomfortable.
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  I know lots of people turned off to football, even though they love it.
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  I myself, I I skipped two seasons, and it was very difficult to skip the seasons.
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  I love football.
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  I love the NFL, I love all the players, I love all the stories, I love the action, I love to see the best, you know, everything I just went over.
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  But this whole idea that they would kneel for the national anthem.
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  Now I understood what they were trying to say.
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  And this is what I'm saying, the people on the left who have it have a germ of a good idea, right?
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  They want respect for everyone, they want to show that they were hurt over time.
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  I get that, I get all that.
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  And I'm compassionate to that.
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  But to disrespect all the rest of us as though we did these bad things to them, uh w was just a slap in our faces.
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  And I said, I'm not gonna support it if they're gonna do this, right?
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  So I stayed away for a couple years.
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  That eventually uh dissipated, you know.
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  Uh, and you know, we saw the teams come back, and then the players were not kneeling.
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  Well, first of all, financially, it probably cost the league a lot of money.
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  Uh, you know, to do what they were trying to do.
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  Were they trying to appease part of their audience?
• 25:02
  I I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say, yes, they were trying to reach out to parts of their audience that they felt were marginalized, were not recognized.
• 25:11
  Um, but what it did, it alienated the whole rest of their audience.
• 25:16
  It made everyone uncomfortable watching it, right?
• 25:18
  And it cost them a lot of money because a lot of people did back away.
• 25:22
  So, this halftime show, they decide to bring out a guy named Bad Bunny, right?
• 25:28
  I didn't know anything about Bad Bunny.
• 25:30
  I never listened to his music.
• 25:32
  Uh I had heard the name before, you know, but pop culture.
• 25:36
  What do you what are you gonna do?
• 25:37
  Uh I listen to music on the radio and uh, you know, uh stuff I like, you know, classic rock and country music, that kind of thing.
• 25:46
  So who's this bad bunny?
• 25:47
  So I, okay, well, I don't know anything about him.
• 25:49
  Then I start to hear and see pictures of this guy.
• 25:52
  That he's dressed in drag, he's you know, he's he looks really strange, his messages are bizarre in his songs.
• 25:59
  When I say bizarre, I mean they are antithetical to American values.
• 26:04
  And I didn't like that.
• 26:06
  I said, Oh, well, why are we gonna have this guy?
• 26:08
  And then we saw uh, you know, the Charlie Kirk group, they're gonna have an alternative with Kid Rock, who's Mr.
• 26:15
  America, he loves America, right?
• 26:17
  Uh, and all these other country performers, people that are more traditional Americans.
• 26:22
  So I'm watching the game, and it's a boring game, unfortunately.
• 26:25
  Everyone didn't rise to their best.
• 26:27
  Uh the defenses were great, but the offenses they they just they they suffered a little bit.
• 26:33
  But then here comes this halftime.
• 26:35
  And I looked for the Charlie Kirk um show, and shame on me, I couldn't find it, right?
• 26:40
  I didn't uh research enough ahead of time to know exactly where to hit the button and go see it.
• 26:45
  So I said, let me watch this uh bad bunny thing.
• 26:48
  And I watch it, and I expected it to be really visually offensive uh to me and to every other American.
• 26:56
  I expected it to be just this complete left-wing crazy, you know, in your face uh kind of an event.
• 27:05
  And initial viewing of it was not that.
• 27:10
  But as it went along, there's a lot of things that happened in that halftime show that we need to talk about because I think it talks about the future and it talks about where we are in America right now.
• 27:25
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• 31:55
  Alright, so I want to finish up my thoughts on bad bunny, because I didn't know what to think going in.
• 32:01
  I thought about it a lot.
• 32:03
  I I felt I was being I was being attacked by the NFL one more time.
• 32:09
  They have a chance to do something.
• 32:10
  They're gonna they're gonna present this individual with that has beliefs and thoughts that are nothing like uh what I think are are correct or right, and gonna throw it in everybody's face, and it's the biggest platform on the planet, right?
• 32:24
  And they're gonna give it to this bad bunny guy, and they you know, you heard all this.
• 32:29
  Everyone heard this stuff, what they thought it was gonna be like.
• 32:32
  Well, my initial impression is I see the show start.
• 32:38
  And here it comes, and here's this guy, he's not dressed outrageously.
• 32:41
  He had a white suit on, and he had uh a football number on his jacket and his coat he was wearing.
• 32:47
  It was 64, I think.
• 32:49
  Now, there's probably some significance to that number, I just don't know it.
• 32:52
  Um, but there's probably some significance to it.
• 32:55
  Because when you're a performer and you go out there, everything has significance.
• 32:58
  Everything means things, right?
• 33:00
  So he's out there and he was dressed, I would say normal.
• 33:04
  He looked like a performer dressed in a in a suit, clean, clean cut.
• 33:08
  He wasn't crazy, he wasn't wearing garish, you know, makeup, and he wasn't wearing a woman's dress and all the things that they kind of showed us leading up to this, that's how he was going to behave.
• 33:19
  And then he started singing.
• 33:21
  And I saw the background, the background dancers, the background thing, and I'm saying, well, he's he's singing in Spanish.
• 33:30
  Okay, um, well, that's gotta be maybe that's part of his act, okay.
• 33:35
  He's, you know, I think he's Puerto Rican background.
• 33:38
  I'm not positive.
• 33:39
  I thought Latin American.
• 33:41
  And he's gonna be singing, he's okay, so he's gonna sing part of his song, or he's gonna sing a song in Spanish.
• 33:46
  Oh, okay.
• 33:47
  Well, you know, it sounds sounds cool, you know, all right.
• 33:51
  But then it continued.
• 33:52
  And it was it was all in Spanish, and I didn't understand one word that this guy was saying.
• 33:59
  I didn't understand the gestures.
• 34:00
  And and now remember, the Super Bowl is part of the NFL.
• 34:04
  The NFL is family-friendly.
• 34:06
  It's supposed to be, you know, a true American kind of an event.
• 34:10
  And here we're watching what looked like an event you would see in a Latin American country in Puerto Rico, in Mexico, in South America, because it was all in Spanish.
• 34:21
  A lot of the symbolism and things were uh related to those cultures and the American culture of Latin America, right?
• 34:30
  And and like, okay, uh, I see a sign that says, you know, love is better than hate or something like that.
• 34:35
  All right, that's a good message.
• 34:37
  That's pretty good.
• 34:38
  Um, but I didn't understand the words.
• 34:41
  And I watched them dancing around.
• 34:43
  Then I saw a bunch of the girls, you know, beautiful women, and they're out there twerking.
• 34:48
  Okay, well, twerking is a is a it is a sexual kind of a connotation to it.
• 34:55
  You know, we see this twerking, and we see it doesn't seem something that I would want my nine-year-old or ten-year-old or eleven-year-old who's watching the Super Bowl to be watching, right?
• 35:05
  Because what you bring into yourself, your heart, your mind, and your body, is what affects you.
• 35:11
  And if you start to see things like that, that's great if you want to go to the strip club and and see twerking.
• 35:16
  It's great if you want to go to an adult club and and people are twerking and you find that interesting or fun.
• 35:23
  But to to throw that out to America's living rooms.
• 35:26
  I'm saying, okay, well, when are we gonna get to uh to the English so we can understand what you're singing about, so we can sing along, so I can hum along with the tone with the tunes.
• 35:36
  Let's hear your great tunes.
• 35:38
  Um but that never happened.
• 35:41
  And there were themes in there that I kind of got to feel okay, we're talking about it looks like they're celebrating migrant workers.
• 35:49
  Um they're showing us flags from all over the the world except for American, you know.
• 35:56
  Uh it just it did not seem like a celebration of America and America's sport of the NFL.
• 36:02
  It just didn't.
• 36:03
  And I'm I'm wondering why they were doing okay.
• 36:07
  Well, where am I gonna be able to understand the words?
• 36:10
  Right?
• 36:10
  That's important.
• 36:11
  A lot of people speak Spanish, but most of us do not.
• 36:14
  And I said, okay, who are we catering to here?
• 36:18
  Why are we not seeing uh like I saw Aerosmith, I saw Springsteen, uh, I saw other huge performers come out and perform to the crowd that was there.
• 36:27
  Perform to the people who buy the tickets every week, perform to the people who support the NFL.
• 36:32
  And I just didn't see any of that.
• 36:34
  And I tried to keep an open mind and say, okay, well, first of all, the the Latin beat is good.
• 36:40
  I like the Latin beat.
• 36:41
  I like the, you know, the musicians were excellent, the uh the props and everything were really cool.
• 36:46
  He he seemed to be a pretty good performer.
• 36:48
  It wasn't until it was all over that I I was really like, I don't want to say confused, but I was like, what did I just watch?
• 36:59
  You know, what was that?
• 37:00
  It didn't seem like a celebration of America.
• 37:03
  Even at the end, he said, God bless America.
• 37:05
  Okay, that was good, you know.
• 37:07
  I thought that was good, but I didn't understand the context until later on.
• 37:11
  And I started to hear and read things when people started to um translate the words of his songs.
• 37:20
  And I was really surprised.
• 37:21
  Because if he sang the words to those songs in English, the FCC would find the NFL and shut them down.
• 37:30
  NBC would have gotten crushed by the FCC and other organizations.
• 37:36
  People would have been out of their minds if they understood the words he was using that he was singing about.
• 37:42
  And, you know, this uh if there's any children around, plug their ears for a second.
• 37:46
  He was talking about anal sex, he was talking about um oral sex, he was talking about, you know, uh his appendages, his appendage on his body and what what women wanted to do with it and what they should do with it.
• 37:59
  It was really not an appropriate group of songs.
• 38:04
  And to think that there were probably millions of people who do speak Spanish who were understanding what he was singing about.
• 38:11
  And they had little children too.
• 38:13
  And they want their children exposed to that?
• 38:15
  I don't know that they did.
• 38:17
  And I'm glad that it wasn't in English when I heard that, because I I wouldn't want anyone exposed to that.
• 38:23
  And I think there would have been even greater outrage about it.
• 38:28
  So why would the NFL do this?
• 38:30
  Why would Roger Goodell do this?
• 38:32
  Well, I think because he's trying to be open.
• 38:37
  I think he's trying to be I don't know, uh, accepting of people that make up his audience and to make up his players.
• 38:47
  He's trying to be acceptable.
• 38:48
  Now I know I saw a lot of stories, you know, because the media, the left-wing media, of course, thought it was fantastic and beautiful, and it's great, and you know, without question, it was amazing, it was great, it was great, it was great, it was great, it was great because you know it was it was very left-wing performance by a left-wing performer.
• 39:07
  So no matter what it was gonna be, it was gonna be the greatest thing in the world.
• 39:10
  And I I couldn't help but say, okay, you're trying to be accommodating and welcoming.
• 39:18
  I get that.
• 39:18
  Be accommodating and welcoming to everyone.
• 39:21
  You know, we all have great cultures and wonderful cultures, things about our cultures that are awesome that we should all celebrate.
• 39:28
  You know, we're the big American family.
• 39:30
  Okay, so I like this, you like that, you learn from me, I learned from you, we appreciate each other's culture.
• 39:36
  That's a nice way to be.
• 39:38
  But this was filthy, apparently.
• 39:40
  It was filthy, right?
• 39:42
  So if you haven't heard the words and the lyrics, uh, there's lots and lots of stuff on social media, there's some articles.
• 39:48
  I I might even write an article.
• 39:50
  See, but that's the thing.
• 39:51
  How do you publish that?
• 39:52
  You know, once you know what the words are, um, how do you write that down?
• 39:55
  How do I put that on AmericaOutloud.news next to my uh podcast.
• 40:00
  Or on our page where we have our articles when it's talking about all of this really strange sexual things that people are doing and of talking about it.
• 40:13
  So well, I get maybe I'm and again, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to be outreach, he was trying to be this and that and the other thing.
• 40:20
  I just don't think it worked.
• 40:22
  You know, the media reported the stadium was going wild, and then you watched people, they're all kind of, you know, there's a couple people, probably who spoke Spanish and who knew Bad Bunny, who were excited that he was there, and they were dancing to the music, you know, because the music's good, but most people were just kind of staring off into the distance, going, What's this?
• 40:41
  Who the hell is this?
• 40:42
  What is this about?
• 40:43
  What's he singing about?
• 40:44
  What does that mean?
• 40:45
  What does the the different prop sets mean?
• 40:49
  Because they all everything has a meaning, right?
• 40:51
  So I found it to be um bizarre, uh, strange, it didn't feel good.
• 40:59
  It kind of matched the game.
• 41:01
  The game was boring and under par for what a Super Bowl normally is.
• 41:07
  Um and it all kind of just matched the the fundamentals of the whole thing matched together.
• 41:14
  It was a very unmemorable game, and the halftime show was weird, and it wasn't exciting, it wasn't fun, it wasn't enjoyable, it didn't add to the joy of Super Bowl.
• 41:28
  That's just my opinion.
• 41:29
  Now, maybe you thought it was absolutely amazing.
• 41:32
  Once you know all about it, now you want to reconsider and say, is that really what I think was good to be talking about those kind of topics in front of children at a national thing around the world?
• 41:42
  I don't know.
• 41:43
  Maybe you think that that's perfectly okay, and that's the beauty of all of us being able to have our own opinions.
• 41:50
  I just found that it was not the great event that the Super Bowl normally is.
• 41:57
  And I'm uh disappointed for all of us who watched it and like, okay, now we're gonna look back on Super Bowl 60.
• 42:05
  What are they gonna say?
• 42:06
  Yeah, the game was really boring, it was a bad game, and the uh halftime show was horrible, right?
• 42:13
  That's what they're gonna say about it.
• 42:14
  Instead of saying, Man, did you see that?
• 42:16
  Was that awesome?
• 42:17
  Uh, really exciting.
• 42:18
  And it started out pretty good.
• 42:20
  The young man who sang the national anthem did a beautiful job, the jets flying overhead, it looked exciting.
• 42:25
  Okay, the teams did great leading up to the Super Bowl.
• 42:28
  I thought it was gonna be really something awesome.
• 42:32
  Uh and it was not.
• 42:33
  And I'm sorry about that, because it's a national happening.
• 42:37
  Okay, so that's why I want to cover it, because it is a big we won't realize, you know, not for everyone.
• 42:44
  Some people could care less about football, they don't ever watch football.
• 42:48
  The reason I talked about excellence in the beginning here is because sports are a part of our life.
• 42:54
  Sports are a part of our life.
• 42:56
  Matter of fact, if you go back in the archives of uh the human equation, when I had the panel on, one of the topics we had going back a bit was the value of sports to our lives and and why it's important.
• 43:09
  And that's why I wanted to bring all this together, because it was a missed opportunity, I guess is what it feels like.
• 43:14
  It was a missed opportunity for us to all have a national celebration.
• 43:20
  All of us, all the different races, all the different religions, all the different creeds, all the different people.
• 43:25
  This was American.
• 43:27
  And I think we're losing some of that uniting thing, that no matter who we are, we can all count on certain things as Americans, right?
• 43:42
  Like if you remember after 9-11, on September 12th, we were united.
• 43:47
  The whole country was united because of what happened to us, right?
• 43:51
  They blew up uh those buildings uh and they crashed a plane in Pennsylvania, but those were our planes, those are our buildings.
• 43:59
  This is where we live, and everyone, no matter who you were, were together for the most part.
• 44:05
  Of course, we know there are people who hate America and they were happy about it, but for the most part, the huge majority of Americans came together on that event because it was us, and that's what Super Bowl can normally be, only a happy time instead of a negative time.
• 44:22
  All right.
• 44:22
  So I'm glad, I'm glad I got to cover that.
• 44:25
  And I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
• 44:28
  So if you go to J Pangaro at AmericaOutloud.news, that's the letter J, then my last name, Piers and Peter, A-N-G-A-R-O, at AmericaOut Loud.news, you can send me an email.
• 44:42
  Tell me what you thought of the Super Bowl.
• 44:43
  What did you think of uh the perception that I had about it?
• 44:48
  Was it really great and you loved it?
• 44:50
  Tell me why you loved it, tell me why you didn't like it, whatever.
• 44:53
  Um it's it's an exchange of ideas.
• 44:55
  We're allowed to have exchanges of ideas.
• 44:57
  All right.
• 44:58
  So I I want to get into a little bit about a couple of other big things going on in our country right now.
• 45:05
  Uh big events, things that are happening, and what they could possibly mean.
• 45:10
  But I think I have to, I have to address this idea of, you know, I want you to reach out to me.
• 45:15
  I want to hear what you think.
• 45:17
  That's conversation, right?
• 45:19
  We don't have conversation anymore.
• 45:21
  We talk at each other.
• 45:23
  Uh, you know, we have our points of view, and facts be damned.
• 45:27
  I believe this, and I don't care anything else about it.
• 45:30
  Um I can't be persuaded by the truth or by facts.
• 45:35
  I I believe what I believe and I want to believe it.
• 45:37
  So I I appreciate people's opinions.
• 45:40
  I like to hear from you, but I like to hear conversation.
• 45:43
  Tell me why.
• 45:44
  Don't just yell and call, oh, you're a this or you're a that with you don't know who I am.
• 45:49
  I try to be honest with who I am.
• 45:51
  You're no way.
• 45:52
  So it's interesting.
• 45:52
  I have a podcast that I do on police work, right?
• 45:56
  And it's um I do I talk about training and I talk about the nature of police work and what it's like to be a cop and this and that and the other thing.
• 46:03
  And it's been a popular podcast.
• 46:06
  Uh, and I do a segment on there called Murder in Mayhem, um with Lieutenant Joe and Marisa Joy, my daughter, and we talk about uh cold cases and and I it's very popular crime and cold cases.
• 46:18
  Well, I was on there and I did uh a piece about Minnesota and the shootings in Minnesota with ICE, the ICE officers and the uh riotous, seditious citizens who are attacking them out there.
• 46:32
  And I say that to really upset you because they're not just protesters.
• 46:35
  Protesters stand on the sidewalk, wave their signs, and yell their slogans, make their point of view uh known.
• 46:41
  People that interfere with law enforcement, they are seditious.
• 46:44
  They are uh causing uh crime, they are making the problem bad.
• 46:50
  Um, and while I feel bad those two people were killed, uh you can see that if they had just stood on the side and voiced themselves, protested, they would still be alive today, and that's just a reality.
• 47:02
  But I did this program uh about shooting in Minnesota, and I did one on here too.
• 47:07
  I I pretty much mimicked it on this program.
• 47:11
  And it's funny, the comments that I get uh in the comments section, not here, but on my podcast, where people come on and they know nothing.
• 47:23
  They know nothing about the reality because you're a liar, you made up that whole thing.
• 47:28
  She didn't try and run him down, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 47:31
  I'm a liar.
• 47:32
  So that's the because their point of view is that ICE is bad and Trump is bad, and that's really the essence of all of this is Trump derangement syndrome.
• 47:42
  The more you look and look and look, the more you can see.
• 47:45
  This is all Trump derangement syndrome that's leading to all of this, this, you know, resist.
• 47:50
  Obama did the same thing.
• 47:52
  He got rid of more people.
• 47:53
  He ice went around and arrested people.
• 47:55
  The difference was back then the governors and the mayors cooperated with ICE.
• 48:02
  They cooperated with the law.
• 48:05
  You see, that's the thing.
• 48:06
  It's not just cooperating with ICE, the officials of ICE, the officers of it.
• 48:09
  It's cooperating with the law, right?
• 48:13
  And interagency connection to prevent problems.
• 48:17
  You have someone who's under arrest in your town, and they are an illegal alien, or they have a uh order of removal or something.
• 48:23
  Before you open the door and let them out, you call ICE and go, hey, we got a guy here that's on your detainer.
• 48:28
  We got a girl here that's on your detainer, and ICE goes over and picks him up and and adjudicates them by whatever the law says has to happen.
• 48:36
  Well, people are just against Trump now.
• 48:38
  So no matter what it is, it's wrong.
• 48:40
  It's wrong.
• 48:40
  I hate it, I hate it, I won't stand by, right?
• 48:42
  So you got these governors and mayors being absurd with fighting against Trump because no matter what it is, they're against it.
• 48:49
  Uh, and it's causing big problems.
• 48:52
  So when we when we look at this element of what's going on here, um these people calling me a liar.
• 49:01
  You're making it up, you don't know.
• 49:04
  And I went into the facts of the case, the things that I saw on the video.
• 49:08
  Uh I was an internal affairs officer.
• 49:11
  I had to look at at evidence, verbal evidence, statements, video, to determine if an officer did the right thing or the wrong thing.
• 49:20
  And just like I held myself to account, I held my officers to account.
• 49:24
  If you did something purposely wrong, well, then there's discipline for that.
• 49:28
  There's consequences to your actions.
• 49:31
  But because the nature of law enforcement, uh, things have a tendency to go sideways, you're intending to do this right thing, and then factors in the incident change, and you have to react to them.
• 49:42
  Well, that doesn't mean you did it purposely wrong.
• 49:44
  It just means it went sideways because that's what happens when you're in conflict with people when there's physical, physical danger.
• 49:51
  Things go sideways, things go wrong.
• 49:53
  People make judgments based on what's in front of them, and that's why the courts recognize these kind of
• 50:00
  Things that, sure, you can sit back in Monday morning quarterback the hell out of everything.
• 50:04
  I never would have.
• 50:05
  Why didn't he jump out of the way?
• 50:07
  Why didn't he shoot the motor?
• 50:08
  Why didn't he shoot out the tire?
• 50:09
  How come they didn't hit him in the leg?
• 50:11
  Shoot the gun out of his hand.
• 50:12
  All this BS that people come up with because they're not out there in the field.
• 50:17
  They're not actually experiencing it.
• 50:19
  They're not doing it.
• 50:20
  And therefore they have opinions.
• 50:22
  And I found it funny that the people who commented on these programs, even on this show.
• 50:30
  I've had people write to me when I talked about Maduro and grabbing him and the drug problem.
• 50:35
  Well, they're just so anti-Trump that, you know, cocaine does not come from uh this place and that place from you know of course it it it but it's mixed with the drugs that come from that and the drugs are facilitated to move from the cartel across the sea to America.
• 50:55
  That's all together it was just wrong.
• 50:57
  It was just wrong because Trump was doing it.
• 51:00
  So there's this whole faction of people out there that reveal how they see the world by the comments that they make.
• 51:10
  You know, I hope by now we've been together long enough where you see that I have an opinion about something based on my life experience, what I see and hear, what I think is right and wrong.
• 51:21
  And then I look at the situation, and if I find out that my belief is incorrect because of any number of things that I didn't understand, I didn't see the full picture, I didn't have all the facts, I'm willing to change my point of view because I would rather get it right than be right.
• 51:41
  You see what I'm saying?
• 51:42
  I would rather be truthful and honest with myself about a situation than to just be right because this is what I believe, right?
• 51:51
  And in the comments, you're a liar.
• 51:54
  You're making that up.
• 51:55
  That's not true.
• 51:57
  You don't know.
• 51:58
  And I I have to laugh because I could see if someone disagreed with my point of view.
• 52:05
  But to call me a liar uh because they disagree, because they just do not want to hear the facts.
• 52:14
  They do not want to hear a different opinion than their own, reveals more about them than it does about me, because I'm open to changing my mind.
• 52:22
  I'm open to let facts and everything else change my perception of something.
• 52:27
  And you see these people with this Trump derangement syndrome, they're not.
• 52:32
  And that's most of our friends on the left.
• 52:33
  That's why most arguments you have between people on the right and the people on the left.
• 52:40
  Watch almost any argument or any disagreement or any discussion of a topic.
• 52:46
  Watch what happens.
• 52:48
  One side will make a uh statement, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and the other side will respond to it.
• 52:53
  Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 52:54
  Now, the whole idea of a conversation is that you express yourself.
• 52:58
  This is what you believe, and here's what I believe.
• 53:01
  Now we can disagree.
• 53:02
  That's okay.
• 53:02
  Disagreement is good.
• 53:03
  Disagreement's how we work things out, just like on this show.
• 53:06
  We talk through things.
• 53:08
  Well, what you'll see, and I'm gonna say in the large majority of times, is that our friends on the left, because most of their ideas, while they they are they are rooted in goodness and decency, they just don't work in the real world.
• 53:24
  Uh and then they so what do they do?
• 53:26
  They have to change the facts, they have to accuse you of s of of hatred when you're just taking a different point of view, when you're just asking a question about a situation.
• 53:36
  They devolve very, very quickly into name calling and uh accusing you of being a hater, accusing you of disgust of disgusting thoughts and this.
• 53:46
  Well, none of that's true.
• 53:47
  You're just asking questions about a situation, or you're pointing out what's wrong with their argument.
• 53:53
  And uh it it's just it's confounding.
• 53:57
  And these these comments that I get, and I gotta tell you, 90% of them are all very, very good, very thoughtful people are really thinking their way through things, even if they disagree with me.
• 54:07
  They're trying to think.
• 54:09
  But some of these people, the things that they say are just so freaking absurd uh because they can't win the argument because the reality doesn't match what they want, and therefore they they devolve into name-calling, screaming, yelling.
• 54:24
  You watch all these people that walk up to these uh, you know, people be on the sidewalk, and they're they're anti-uh abortion, right?
• 54:31
  They believe in in life, and they're standing there with a sign that says life begins at conception, and these people on the left who don't want to hear it, they come walking up.
• 54:41
  What do they do?
• 54:41
  They kick the sign, they break the sign, they spit, they turn over the tables.
• 54:45
  You don't see conservative people doing that to the liberal stuff.
• 54:48
  Walk up, I don't believe in LGBTQ and turning their table over and smacking them and hit them.
• 54:53
  Now there's individuals.
• 54:54
  But it's not what happens regularly.
• 54:58
  But our friends on the left, they can't make the argument, they can't win the argument, they're very emotional, they don't see things very clearly because of that.
• 55:07
  They have this Trump derangement syndrome that uh is just unbelievable, and therefore they they can't have an argument.
• 55:14
  So I don't mind people disagreeing with me.
• 55:16
  Like I said, I'm willing to learn if I got something wrong, I'd rather get it right.
• 55:20
  But bring your case, bring your case with facts and truths, not what you want to believe, or because you believe it in your heart, it has to be right, or because you're a hater, you can't see it.
• 55:34
  That's I don't hate anybody.
• 55:36
  I don't hate anybody, I don't care what you do, who you love, I could care less.
• 55:40
  We should all get along.
• 55:41
  That would be the best way things could could work out.
• 55:44
  But we have to respect each other.
• 55:46
  And I don't see that in a lot of these arguments and these comments really are funny if I could show you all of them.
• 55:52
  And I might even do a segment where I um I discussed them.
• 55:57
  Now, don't let that stop you from writing in.
• 55:59
  I would never use your name, right?
• 56:01
  I would never use Bob Jones of Oklahoma said this, and boy, he's crazy.
• 56:06
  I would just say, you know, somebody wrote to me, and this is what they said, right?
• 56:09
  I I don't want to hurt people's feelings and make them look stupid.
• 56:12
  That's that's not a winning way of having conversation.
• 56:15
  So anyway, that's out there, and I just want to take a minute to talk about it to let you know for those of you who don't have a platform like this where people write to you and give you their opinion or say what they what they think about what you're saying and doing, is that it it some people are just really so unhinged that it's it's understandable why things get out of control while they're while they're they're crazy spitting and yelling and and losing their minds, they can't control themselves, and that's problematic.
• 56:46
  And we see that in my last comments because we're almost done here.
• 56:49
  I can't believe the show goes so quick, but we'll be back again tomorrow, so make sure you tune in tomorrow as well.
• 56:55
  You know, uh I want to talk about the Epstein files and the release of the Epstein files.
• 57:01
  Now, a lot of it is redacted still, and I'm not really happy about that, but I understand you can't release victim names, you can't release some things that are in there, but everybody with Trump derangement syndrome, they knew that in there you're gonna hear about Trump, Trump having sex with nine-year-olds, it's gonna be in there, and that's why they're hiding it.
• 57:19
  And they're very disappointed that they can't find that because I don't believe the guy did that stuff.
• 57:24
  Um he was friends with this guy, like billionaires are friends with each other, rich people hang out, they go to places.
• 57:30
  Gee, Oprah went to the island a lot of times, I understand.
• 57:33
  Bill Clinton went there a lot of times.
• 57:35
  Does that mean they were diddling children?
• 57:38
  No, and apparently it's not there.
• 57:40
  All right, so listen, tune in tomorrow when we can get together again.
• 57:44
  This is Joe Pangaro for the human equation.