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Drive Thru News #54: It's all Schnitzel! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  This is it.
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  This is the end of season five.
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  Can you believe it?
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  The end of the season as we know it.
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  That's a good REM pull there, Tanya.
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  Might be the end of Tanya's voice before we get through this.
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  We'll see how long it lasts.
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  All right.
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  Well, let's rock and roll.
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  Bring us in, Brad.
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  Cue the intro music.
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  Welcome to drive through episode number 54.
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  This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and entertaining.
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  Quote unquote car Jason news.
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  Now, let's pull up to window number one for some automotive
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  news Are you drinking the dew?
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  Are you not feeling well?
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  I have been fighting a plague fire all week.
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  Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
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  I don't know whose bad air I breathed in.
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  It was the bike expo that we went to.
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  Maybe it could have been the bike expo, yeah.
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  That was a dangerous thing.
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  Tanya invited me to go with her to a bicycle expo.
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  I'd never been, I figured that's like a swap meet, right, like anything else.
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  I've been to car swap meets before and other stuff, you know, craft
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  fairs and whatnot, but bicycles?
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  Sounds cool.
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  I was a bad boy.
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  What did you buy?
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  I bought a French bike.
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  You bought a Peugeot?
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  I bought a 72 Peugeot.
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  One owner, the guy's son was selling it dirt cheap, all original with
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  patina and everything, gorgeous bike.
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  It's all white.
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  So I finally own a Peugeot.
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  And then I bought a Bianchi as well.
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  Frame.
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  And it's an 81.
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  And I'm going to actually turn that into a street bike to pedal around on.
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  And I bought a frame for one of my daughters.
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  It's a clone to my wife's old bike.
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  She had a cyclocross by giant.
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  And so the guy was selling the frame for 40 bucks with the stem
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  and the headpiece and everything.
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  I was like, for 40 bucks, I mean, just in case the other one cracks, I'll take it.
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  You know what I mean?
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  I walked away with.
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  Two frames and a complete bike for not a ton of money.
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  And I'm like, Oh man, I guess I'm getting back into biking now a little bit.
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  So this will be fun.
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  It's good for your health.
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  So, so at the, tell me about this bike expo.
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  Was it literally just a swap meet or was there a combination of like
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  new manufacturers, kind of like a SEMA meet swap meet kind of thing?
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  There was more carbon fiber there than there was probably
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  in a formula one paddock.
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  It was impressive.
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  Was there anything in, from like the BMX world?
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  There was everything you could think of.
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  Absolutely.
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  Tandems.
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  Cause I used to be really big in the, the BMX bikes and stuff like that.
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  They've got some bikes now that would look normal for you based on your size.
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  They got these tires that are like six inches wide, like a motorcycle.
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  And they're like the size of a horse.
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  When I bought my truck, I almost bought one of those instead, but it
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  was just, it looked like a beachcomber.
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  Yeah, they're crazy.
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  It was not like a mountain bike or anything like that.
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  It was just a cruiser with these big fat tires for like 2, 500 bucks.
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  And I was like, no, not going to do it.
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  Not going to do it.
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  Although we're rambling on about this bike expo, it is car related.
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  Car Jason.
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  Yeah, the car manufacturer Peugeot made bicycles and sewing machines
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  and a million other things.
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  And then Bianchi.
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  As in Alto Bianchi also related to Piaggio who makes the Vespas
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  and the Apes and all that stuff.
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  So both of those bicycles come from car manufacturers.
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  I think that's pretty cool.
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  You realize none of our listeners could translate what you just said.
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  We're Americans.
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  I Americanized my pronunciation.
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  Yes, you're going to be kicked out of the press conference if you
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  don't clean it up there, mister.
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  Eric, I can't talk about any of these articles right now because
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  all I can do is see your hair and it looks like an early 2000s emo singer.
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  I swear.
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  Are you a singer for the cult?
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  Were you in the band The Cure?
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  Do you have black painted fingernails?
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  What's going on?
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  What is up with your hair?
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  You can't see it, man.
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  Because tonight'll be the night that I devour the night!
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  I think it's the sweep that's happening.
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  It's the sweep.
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  Yes.
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  It's starting to sweep.
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  Sweep it back.
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  Please.
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  I cannot concentrate.
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  I'm getting hot over here.
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  I'm getting turned on.
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  I want to go listen to Depeche Mode.
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  Come on guys.
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  Fix it for me.
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  Please.
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  All the stuff that's on my playlist.
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  It's all good.
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  Yes.
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  I know.
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  I know.
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  I know.
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  Good Lord.
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  Well, continuing with our banter here before we head into our normally
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  scheduled ranting and raving.
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  As with tradition in the February episode, we got to talk about the Super Bowls.
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  It's plural Super Bowl as in football and the Rolex 24 hours.
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  So let's quickly talk about the extremely disappointing Super
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  Bowl commercials this year.
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  Let's not, I don't care about those.
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  Let's talk about that GNX during the Kendrick Lamar concert.
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  Now that, that was a thing of beauty.
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  Was it real though?
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  Or was it just a Monte Carlo with the grill painted black because they came up.
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  through the trap door.
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  That couldn't have been a real GNX.
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  There's only a handful of GNXs.
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  There's videos of him doing interviews with like actors and
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  stuff in a GNX like driving around.
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  I think that was his car.
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  I think that was his car.
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  But I would imagine whatever was on stage in the Super Bowl.
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  Obviously it was not his car, but probably a replica shell because
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  people were coming up from underneath the stage and through the car.
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  Yeah, it was like a clown car.
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  That was a rep. That was a Monte Carlo with a grill.
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  I guess I missed that part that they were actually coming up through the car.
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  I was focused on him.
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  So it had the wheels that had the grill and they painted it black.
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  I mean, you can buy any of those G bodies and make it look like a
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  G and X. Yeah, you can buy them like you can buy, like, Vitos.
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  Now, one of our neighbors has a GNX, and he was telling me at one
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  of the block parties, you know, these car guys get together, and we
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  don't want to talk to anybody else.
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  So he said they only made a couple hundred of those cars, and these days,
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  it's a six figure plus car if you were to sell it, like, at Mecum, or something
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  like that, because they're pretty rare.
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  So you're trying to tell me that the Showcase performer at the Super
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  Bowl can't afford a six figure GNX car, according to the interwebs.
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  Yes, Tonya, break it down for us.
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  He does in fact own a 1987 GNX and as one of our members pointed out,
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  it is also the album name for his most recent album and it's featured
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  in the artwork and obviously it was featured in the Super Bowl performance.
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  The reason he has the GNX, as the story goes, was because when he was born
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  in 1987, his father brought him home from the hospital in the Buick Regal.
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  The base model.
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  Okay, yep.
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  So there's some sort of homage thing going there.
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  Who would want the Buick Regal if you could have a GNX and you can afford it?
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  Of course.
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  Yep, yep, yep.
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  And then there's the one in the middle.
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  There's the Grand National because they're not the same thing, right?
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  There's the Grand National package.
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  Then there was the GNX, which was even more.
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  It was more.
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  It was even more.
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  It was more.
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  Just more.
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  Would he really stand on the hood of his Six figure car.
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  It's a rare car.
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  I mean it might not seem like much but it is I've seen tick
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  tockers Stand on the front of their Rolls Royces and their Lambos.
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  I guess so people are dumb AF It's something tells me he's probably
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  got a couple of spare hoods and fenders, you know in his garage
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  somewhere Maybe you can afford it.
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  He is a multi, you know million dollar multi platinum Grammy winning Rapper.
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  Uh huh.
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  And he hates Drake.
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  Oh my God.
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  And apparently everybody at the Super Bowl hates Drake.
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  Including Samuel L. Jackson.
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  Including Drake.
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  Drake hates Drake.
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  You know, this just in.
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  He also is a Pulitzer Prize winner.
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  What?
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  Oh yeah?
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  That's awesome.
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  There were three commercials that stuck out to me in the Super Bowl.
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  They redid the Bruce Springsteen America Jeep, Jeep is America commercial.
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  It was Henry Ford or Harrison, it was Harrison Ford who's just as
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  old driving a new Wrangler four XE.
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  And so it was a pretty long commercial.
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  I thought it was really funny at the end.
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  It was a little tongue in cheek.
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  He said, you know, I really love Jeeps, even though my last name is.
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  Ford, and he kind of whispers it.
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  So I was like, that's cute.
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  It was a little too long, but basically it was a redo of the Springsteen commercial.
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  The WeatherTech Grandmas, I got tired of seeing that commercial.
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  That just got old.
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  Let the word go.
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  There was WeatherTech Grandmas?
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  In that old lowrider Buick that they were in, like a 50s, whatever the
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  heck it was, and they were like, oh, yeah, it was like the party car.
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  And then the only other one was, and it was so cringey.
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  There's two versions of it.
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  Right now, they're playing the short version, the edited, you
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  know, for radio version on TV.
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  And it's the, the Haagen Dazs, not fast, not furious with
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  Michelle Rodriguez and Vin Diesel.
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  And in the long version, the Super Bowl version, Ludacris shows up.
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  He's like, what are y'all doing?
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  And it's like, it's so stupid.
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  But, I got excited because that means it's sort of like, Hey, there's another
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  movie coming, Fast and Furious 27 or whatever's coming out next, which
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  I'm going to watch, regardless of the fact that it's not going to be good,
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  but I'm going to watch it anyway.
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  That's trash.
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  Wait.
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  So that, that's it, that's the Those were the big three.
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  Those were, that was it.
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  You're forgetting one!
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  What, the one where the lady drives backwards in the Kia down the off ramp?
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  I mean, that was dumb.
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  No, but that had nothing to do with cars, actually.
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  That was like a TurboTax commercial, I think.
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  Stupid!
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  No!
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  Did you not see the Ram truck one?
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  Which one was that one?
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  With Glenn Powell?
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  Oh, I see Goldilocks and the three trucks.
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  Yeah, he was like three different versions of himself and three different Ram trucks.
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  Yeah, yeah, I remember that one, yeah.
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  I mean, it was Glenn Powell.
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  Yet another Stellantis.
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  Marketing effort, at least it's not imported from Detroit.
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  That's true.
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  But again, compared to previous years where the car commercials are usually
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  pretty epic, like Audi does something or Nissan with a 400 Z all the ones
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  that we've talked about in the past this year, it just felt kind of like
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  wah, wah, all Audi's money is going into trying to get a formula one.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, there weren't even any like Kia commercials.
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  I thought.
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  There were some pretty big Kia ones last year, too, like going through the
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  snow and the mountain and all this crap.
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  Yeah.
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  Like the Telluride and stuff like that.
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  I mean, honestly, in general, car commercial or not, all of
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  the commercials were pretty lame.
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  And to hear that, like, people were paid 8 million for the spots, I'm like, these
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  weren't 8 million worthy commercials.
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  I'm like, y'all got Taken.
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  They spent all their money on the spots.
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  They couldn't afford to have a good commercial.
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  They could have funded a race team.
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  There were no beer commercials, which was surprising.
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  Was there any?
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  I didn't see the Anheuser Busch horses and all that stuff that they normally do.
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  There was one.
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  Was there?
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  You're right.
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  There was one about the horse.
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  It was a pony.
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  It was a colt.
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  It showed up on its own or something.
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  Yeah, he was left behind when they were doing a delivery,
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  but a keg fell off the wagon.
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  Yeah.
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  He took the keg all the way across.
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  It was like a weird commercial where it was like, we're not doing this.
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  This, this time.
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  And then it was, it's like we did and it was with the pony or something.
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  Whatever.
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  All right.
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  Let's talk about the other Superbowl, the Superbowl of racing, the Rolex 24
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  hours, kicking off the racing season.
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  Always in style.
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  Who won?
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  Couldn't tell you.
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  Didn't watch a minute of it.
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  I have no idea.
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  Well, there you go.
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  The most entertaining part of that race was the point by Eric
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  knows what I'm talking about.
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  I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  I have seen the photos of that.
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  Please explain the genesis of that moment.
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  So there's two BMWs in a Corvette.
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  One of the BMWs in front happens to be a back marker and he pulls some like
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  Fernando Alonso move blocking the Corvette so that the other BMW can get around them.
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  And the Corvette, I think it was Tommy Milner.
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  Was driving the Corvette.
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  He was so mad at this BMW guy.
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  First of all, he ran into the other BMW when he was trying to pass.
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  And then when he got up next to the guy who was blocking him, he gave
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  him a nice, friendly wave, a single finger salute, the way we all do point
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  buys when we're on track together.
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  I mean, I've given Eric that point by before too.
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  So we all, we all get it.
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  He was very upset and he gave the, he gave the salute.
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  Then went about his way and blip shift, turned it into a t shirt.
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  You know, there's memes about it.
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  It was awesome.
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  It's probably the most epic thing that's happened at Rolex this year.
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  Are there no repercussions in the world?
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  Oh, you got to find like 10 grand or something.
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  I'm sure who cares if he gets any proceeds from the sales of anything.
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  I mean, it's worth it.
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  It's Pratt and Miller.
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  I mean, they're running the Corvette program.
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  I mean, they always have been.
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  So, I mean, is anybody going to stand in their way, Matt?
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  It was awesome.
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  It was awesome.
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  But if it was Max Verstappen, he'd have been fine.
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  So to Tanya's point, who won?
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  Who cares?
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  Why don't we talk about torque sensors?
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  Cause that's all they talked about for the first like six hours of the
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  race is these freaking torque sensors.
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  And I'm like, ah, another nanny.
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  Half baked, half implemented, and then you got Mercedes coming late
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  to the game, going torque centered?
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  Wait a minute.
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  What's that?
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  Mercedes?
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  Who's Mercedes?
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  Did we talk about them on this show?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  We'll get more into that as we go along here.
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  But let me give you the rundown, alright?
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  So, GTP, which is LMP1, if you're of our generation.
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  So the LMP cars, it was Porsche, Acura, Porsche.
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  1, 2, 3, boom, boom, boom.
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  That's how it finished.
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  LMP2.
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  Who cares?
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  It's a spec race.
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  Setboarding, one, yay.
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  And then GTD Pro.
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  This is where the action is.
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  So despite the single finger salute and all the Corvette stuff, and
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  now GM is backing Pratt Miller and the privateers, so there's more
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  Corvettes on track than there's ever been, which is absolutely epic.
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  And Mustang comes out and says, Oh, my beer Corvette.
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  They took them to town.
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  And it was awesome that finally, I guess they got the balance of power, right?
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  Because the Mustang in previous season was terrible.
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  It was slow.
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  And it was just, but you could tell the Mustang had the legs on
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  the vet. And I was like, that's a front engine V8 going back at it.
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  Like the old school days and Corvette sitting here.
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  I got space age, mid engine, blah, blah, blah.
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  It's like, yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Have a nice day.
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  And what is it?
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  Flat plane, crank, flat plane, crank.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  All that nonsense.
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  So I am super proud for Ford.
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  And then that wasn't enough.
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  They got done kicking button GTD pro.
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  And then they said, it's what we're coming back to Lamar.
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  With an LMP GTP car, the highest level of racing and the biggest race of the
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  year boards coming out with a prototype.
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  We're going back GT 40 days.
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  They haven't done stuff like that.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Racing in the biggest class that's out there.
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  I feel like they're like a sleeping giant.
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  A hundred percent.
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  And like Ferrari has been on top the last couple of years, right?
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  Didn't they win last year or they won the year before.
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  I feel like Ford just like sits in the wings and they got this shit developed
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  already and they're just ready to go.
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  They're sitting there, they're sleeping, you know, they're making
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  money over here and doing this and Ferrari, they do their own thing.
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  Then Ferrari puts the car out and Ferrari starts winning and
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  Ford's like, nah, not on my watch.
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  They go out, they kick Ferrari's ass and then they shut it down again.
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  Yep.
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  Another 50 years will go by Ferrari.
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  He'll come out with a car for Ari.
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  He'll be on top again.
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  I'm waiting for Ford to put out an F1 car.
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  They're waiting for Ferrari to win an F1 championship.
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  I guarantee you Ferrari wins an F1 championship board, not Cadillac.
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  Ford is going to be the American team and they're going to wipe the floor with them.
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  A hundred percent.
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  I agree with that wholeheartedly.
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  That's awesome.
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  Well, I'm super proud of Ford.
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  I'm really excited to have another brand that's coming to the big stage to compete
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  against Porsche and Ferrari and Peugeot and BMW and all the big cars that are now
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  showing up year after year at Le Mans.
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  I'm like, this is great.
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  And I said it two years ago now, Toyota.
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  It was theirs to lose and they keep campaigning the same car.
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  It's like, guys, evolve or die.
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  And at this point you're dead.
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  Like I'd be surprised if Toyota doesn't pack it up because of their move to
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  formula one, they can't run both WEC and formula one at the same time.
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  So they're going to have to pick that battle.
• 16:05
  But it's again, if Toyota stepping down and Ford can move in, that's
• 16:09
  going to be pretty awesome.
• 16:10
  So pretty excited about that.
• 16:11
  And then obviously there's one more class in the series and that's
• 16:15
  GTD AM, which is the amateurs.
• 16:17
  And I'm like, Do these guys even count?
• 16:20
  I didn't even really pay attention.
• 16:21
  There's usually some good racing in there too.
• 16:23
  Especially when like in prior years where GTD pro got kind of boring.
• 16:27
  Yeah.
• 16:28
  Oh, because in GTDM that's where like the iron dames run and like some of the
• 16:32
  other pretty cool, like small teams.
• 16:34
  If you go to an IMSA race, these are the people that are usually pretty
• 16:38
  outgoing and pretty like friendly with fans and taking pictures and
• 16:42
  just doing the marketing thing.
• 16:43
  So there's some cool people driving around in GTD AM.
• 16:47
  Speaking of, did you guys catch this year's pace car?
• 16:49
  Nope.
• 16:50
  No, I didn't watch him into the race.
• 16:51
  Oh, well you can go look it up.
• 16:53
  2025 Rolex pace car.
• 16:55
  I thought it was an SUV because seeing it amongst the race cars,
• 17:00
  you're like, what the hell is that?
• 17:02
  And so they kept saying, Oh, the Acura pace car, the Acura pace car.
• 17:07
  It was exactly that.
• 17:08
  It was the new Integra.
• 17:10
  And it is huge.
• 17:13
  You know, it's big.
• 17:14
  But then when you put it with the race cars, it is massive.
• 17:18
  Like I really thought it was the new MDX.
• 17:21
  It's so big.
• 17:22
  And it was this really goofy gold Rolex color or whatever.
• 17:25
  So it made it look even bigger and reflective and all this kind of like,
• 17:29
  Oh man, Acura, what are you doing?
• 17:31
  I think it must've been an optical illusion.
• 17:34
  No, go look.
• 17:35
  It's no, because I've been on the road with one of them and it.
• 17:38
  Doesn't look like an SUV.
• 17:39
  I mean, it looks like a Honda, but it doesn't seem like an SUV.
• 17:42
  With the race cars.
• 17:43
  It was just like, it's a school bus.
• 17:45
  Everything looks bigger next to a race car, especially the BMW M8s.
• 17:48
  Remember those?
• 17:49
  I look like an SUV when I'm standing next to a race car.
• 17:53
  Well, that said, that was short, sweet, and to the point.
• 17:56
  So we need to get back to our regularly scheduled ranting and raving.
• 17:59
  And Brad, you made a comment last month, threw some shade my way.
• 18:03
  You called me out for good reason.
• 18:06
  For good reason said we never ever talk about BMW and Mercedes.
• 18:11
  It's sort of like Ford 50 years goes by before we talk about them again,
• 18:15
  50 years before they're relevant.
• 18:17
  So since you threw the gauntlet down and challenged us to find something.
• 18:22
  Interesting to talk about with respect to Mercedes and or BMW.
• 18:26
  Guess what?
• 18:27
  LFGO baby.
• 18:28
  That's all we're going to talk about.
• 18:29
  We are going to talk about Mercedes BMW for the next hour.
• 18:33
  That's it.
• 18:34
  So get ready, buckle up, buddy.
• 18:35
  I'm here for it.
• 18:36
  Let's do it.
• 18:37
  This is the wiener schnitzel celebration.
• 18:40
  This is the super bratwurst special.
• 18:42
  This is everything lower Saxony you can think of.
• 18:46
  Bimmers and bends.
• 18:47
  Here we go.
• 18:48
  You ready?
• 18:49
  Before we start, you'll have to make sure you tell me the metrics
• 18:51
  of this episode and how many people tune out at this point.
• 18:55
  Exactly.
• 18:56
  Exactly.
• 18:56
  So we're going to go through our segments.
• 18:58
  So here we go.
• 18:59
  VW Porsche Audi news.
• 19:01
  Nope.
• 19:02
  Bye Felicia.
• 19:03
  So meanwhile, get this.
• 19:05
  You know, I am a member of the Long Roof Society.
• 19:08
  I love me a good station wagon.
• 19:11
  And I have always said, and I will admit, BMW station wagons are notorious
• 19:17
  for being extremely good looking.
• 19:20
  They know how to build a wagon.
• 19:21
  And this latest one The M3 CS Touring has been spied at the
• 19:26
  Nürburgring, as one does in Germany.
• 19:29
  That's where you go to show off your wares.
• 19:30
  It's sort of like the jewelry district in Florence, right?
• 19:33
  It's the ultimate family hauler that we won't get.
• 19:37
  You wonder why we don't talk about BMW, they do shit like this.
• 19:40
  I was just about to say it's because they don't sell the cool
• 19:43
  shit here in the, in the States.
• 19:45
  Yeah, we get the crap.
• 19:46
  550 hrsprs and tons and tons of carbon fiber and big wheels and flares.
• 19:52
  And it wants to be an Audi RS6 Avant and it's not.
• 19:55
  And it's got that little round bell on it.
• 19:56
  It's a BMW.
• 19:58
  It does all the right things.
• 19:59
  It checks all the right boxes.
• 20:01
  And they're only going to make 2000 of them that we're never going to get.
• 20:03
  So who cares?
• 20:05
  Is it coming in a manual?
• 20:07
  BMW flip flops on that quite a bit.
• 20:09
  They do!
• 20:09
  They say, We're never making manuals again.
• 20:11
  And then they say, Oh, just kidding.
• 20:12
  And then they say, We're going to be the last ones with a manual on the planet.
• 20:15
  Everybody else is going to stop making.
• 20:16
  We're still going to have them.
• 20:17
  And then they brought manuals back for a while.
• 20:20
  And then I think they're gone again.
• 20:21
  They're doing the hokey pokey on the manual thing.
• 20:23
  I would assume a car like this.
• 20:26
  If they want to beat Audi, the RS6 Avant is freaking amazing, but that's
• 20:30
  flappy paddle gearbox and all that crazy stuff that it's got going on.
• 20:34
  This should, I'm not going to say is, it should come with a six speed
• 20:39
  manual because then everybody's going to go in that direction.
• 20:41
  And to add to that, since we skipped over Porsche, Porsche
• 20:44
  has said the 911 will continue to come with a manual transmission.
• 20:47
  They've seen the light.
• 20:49
  Aha!
• 20:50
  Enthusiasts want manuals!
• 20:52
  They don't care if the car shifts in 2 milliseconds!
• 20:56
  It's useless on the street.
• 20:57
  You want to have that connection to your car, that visceral experience.
• 21:01
  You want to be part of the fun.
• 21:03
  If the computer does everything, it's a freaking Johnny Cab.
• 21:06
  Like, who cares?
• 21:06
  So, further down in the article, they do say that the next M3
• 21:11
  Touring might make it to America.
• 21:13
  But what they're trying to do is see how well the M5 Touring does first.
• 21:17
  Why does that matter?
• 21:18
  So tell me about the M5 Touring.
• 21:20
  That's what I want to know.
• 21:22
  And so the M3 Touring is out of my grasp.
• 21:24
  The M5 Touring is so far out of my grasp.
• 21:27
  I shouldn't even be talking about it, but yet here we are.
• 21:30
  Well, not only that.
• 21:31
  And in the old days, like when the E36 E39 platform was out, what's the difference
• 21:35
  between 39 about three inches outside of the outward sheet metal looking different.
• 21:41
  But realistically in terms of like leg room, it wasn't any much of a bigger car.
• 21:46
  Yeah, it was a bigger motor.
• 21:48
  Yeah, bigger motor.
• 21:48
  That's for sure.
• 21:49
  A lot bigger motor.
• 21:50
  Comes with some whiz bang stuff.
• 21:51
  But yeah, to your point, this is going to be a hundred thousand
• 21:54
  dollar car on a three series.
• 21:56
  Easily.
• 21:57
  It's going to be 120.
• 21:59
  Or so I think nowadays you can get a BMW CS like an M3 CS non touring.
• 22:04
  Obviously here in the States, they're like upwards of a hundred,
• 22:07
  hundred and 510 optioned out because they've got 15 million
• 22:11
  different option packages for BMWs.
• 22:13
  Do they include different size kidney grills or we'll get into
• 22:15
  that too, but different size wheels.
• 22:17
  They've got the cold weather package.
• 22:20
  Start package, the tickle your butthole package.
• 22:23
  I mean, they've got all that.
• 22:23
  That only comes in the Teslas, but we're not talking about them this month.
• 22:26
  You know, sure.
• 22:27
  Yeah.
• 22:27
  We're not Tesla doesn't exist in this episode.
• 22:29
  So Mercedes, oh, Mercedes.
• 22:32
  I want to remind our audience.
• 22:34
  They literally invented the car.
• 22:36
  Mercedes Benz is the oldest car company in the world.
• 22:41
  And they build some of the most boring stuff you have ever put your eyes on.
• 22:47
  Right.
• 22:47
  It's just like.
• 22:49
  So hot news this month, 2026, the E class is going to get a stretch version, be a
• 22:56
  limousine, because limousines are cool.
• 22:58
  No one said ever.
• 23:00
  Limousines stopped being cool in the 80s.
• 23:02
  Why do we still make limos?
• 23:04
  Because there's a lot of rich people.
• 23:06
  That's still riding them.
• 23:07
  Well, don't they ride in my box though?
• 23:09
  That's just it.
• 23:10
  Like what's the point?
• 23:11
  Well, this isn't Mercedes making it though.
• 23:14
  Oh, it's awful.
• 23:14
  This is an aftermarket company though.
• 23:16
  That's making this still Mercedes related.
• 23:19
  It is.
• 23:19
  Yeah, but it's not Mercedes themself doing it.
• 23:21
  They're not choosing it.
• 23:22
  Yeah.
• 23:22
  But look at the E class that it starts with.
• 23:24
  It's a boring, ugly saloon.
• 23:26
  It is.
• 23:27
  It's a taxi cab.
• 23:28
  It's a German taxi cab.
• 23:29
  It's awful.
• 23:30
  That's supposed to get me excited about Mercedes?
• 23:33
  No, but this isn't sanctioned by Mercedes.
• 23:35
  No, I'm talking about the E Class.
• 23:37
  Just look at the E Class that it's based on.
• 23:39
  That is a boring car.
• 23:40
  It's a Crown Vic.
• 23:42
  Yeah, who buys that?
• 23:43
  People that think they're getting something special
• 23:45
  when they buy a Mercedes, but they can't afford an S Class.
• 23:47
  That's enough of that.
• 23:48
  Yeah, exactly.
• 23:49
  That's all we need to say about that.
• 23:50
  Next hotness.
• 23:51
  The BMW iX has gotten a facelift.
• 23:55
  I've never seen one on the road to begin with, so I didn't
• 23:57
  know what it looked like.
• 23:58
  I think I've seen a couple of these.
• 24:00
  I see a lot of weird shit down here.
• 24:02
  This is why we don't talk about BMWs.
• 24:05
  Did Black and Decker design this?
• 24:06
  Like, this should have like a handle on it and just be an appliance.
• 24:10
  You know, what kills me about these designs?
• 24:13
  I noticed the other day, I was looking at an older car on the road.
• 24:15
  And you remember how, when we were younger, you used to salivate over,
• 24:19
  man, I'm going to get fenders on my car.
• 24:21
  I'm going to stretch my fenders.
• 24:22
  And you know, even the cars in the two thousands, like the Mark four
• 24:24
  Volkswagen, you had those lips that went over the wheels, those lip fenders.
• 24:28
  Now all the cars look like they were cut with a putty knife.
• 24:32
  Somebody was doing joint compound on the wall.
• 24:34
  All the fenders are like squared off.
• 24:36
  It looks weird and it's really obvious and it's become really annoying that
• 24:40
  every car is sort of the same now.
• 24:43
  And there's no definition to it.
• 24:45
  And that's where that M3 Touring and the RS6 Six because they actually
• 24:48
  have hips and they have a shape to them, jackknife flares and all.
• 24:52
  And you're like, Oh, that looks really cool because it's so
• 24:55
  different than all this other Tamagotchi stuff we're looking at.
• 24:59
  Those flattened off fenders are the basic white girl of the car industry.
• 25:02
  This is so vanilla latte at Starbucks.
• 25:05
  These are all pumpkin spice, pumpkin spice and hugs.
• 25:09
  And that grill.
• 25:10
  Is that the biggest one yet?
• 25:11
  That might be bigger than the X7.
• 25:13
  The problem I have Oh, here we go.
• 25:15
  is with the new BMWs, or what they're doing now, what they've done over
• 25:20
  the last, I don't know, however many years, there is something iconic about
• 25:24
  the way the front of a BMW looks.
• 25:27
  Notably, their headlights.
• 25:29
  The double round headlights.
• 25:31
  are quintessentially BMW recognized easily if all you saw
• 25:36
  were the headlights you go BMW.
• 25:38
  Whatever the hell is on that thing, whose headlights are those?
• 25:41
  And they've slowly been morphing away in terms of, they've made
• 25:46
  them a little bit more geometric, but they have kept the double.
• 25:49
  So there's still that, but there's some newer models that are going
• 25:52
  to this, just this like light bar.
• 25:55
  The kidney grill is the other well known BMW trait, right, when they've
• 25:59
  ruined that, and now they're ruining the headlights, and it's like,
• 26:03
  well, what do you have anymore?
• 26:04
  I think it's a perfect metaphor, talking about the weird shape of the kidneys
• 26:09
  now, and the headlights, like BMW, it's like they're losing their identity.
• 26:12
  BMW has lost its identity of what it used to be.
• 26:16
  Like even back to like the early two thousands, the Bengal period.
• 26:19
  Yeah, it was, they have lost their way.
• 26:21
  They've lost their identity.
• 26:22
  I think the turning point for BMW was after the Bengal period when Chris
• 26:26
  Bengal left, and then we got all the like proliferation of BMW models where it was.
• 26:31
  Like an ask for every seat, basically there was a design for everybody.
• 26:35
  You want the four, you want the four GT, you want the four long.
• 26:39
  Oh, you want the three, the five, the seven, the 10, like they had all these
• 26:43
  variants and then the sport back and then the hatchback and then the X one.
• 26:47
  And it's like, ah, they were at their best when they had the three series, like
• 26:51
  in the U S I know they had other series.
• 26:53
  They had other series over in Europe, I get it, but in the U. S. when they
• 26:57
  had the 3 series, the 5 series, and the 7 series, to a smaller degree when
• 27:02
  they came out with the first X5, I think that was their perfect period.
• 27:06
  That was, I wanted a BMW so bad then.
• 27:09
  And then they came out with the weird, let's talk about the six 50, right?
• 27:13
  With that rear end.
• 27:14
  It looks like a badger.
• 27:15
  Yeah, that originally came on the seven series, like the seven 45 before
• 27:19
  they brought the six series out.
• 27:21
  Now I know like before my time, they had the six series before
• 27:24
  they had the eight series.
• 27:25
  I used to want an eight 50 CSI.
• 27:27
  So bad scoured the internet trying to buy.
• 27:32
  You know, I never had the money, of course, because I was poor, but
• 27:35
  I know that those cars came out.
• 27:36
  But like when I was growing up and I was becoming an enthusiast,
• 27:39
  three series, five series, seven series and the X, that was it.
• 27:43
  And that was all they needed.
• 27:44
  They were killing it.
• 27:45
  I feel then.
• 27:46
  And they lost their way.
• 27:47
  And Mercedes did the exact same thing.
• 27:50
  And Audi too.
• 27:51
  All three of them like started doing the same shit.
• 27:53
  They went full GM.
• 27:54
  Like you never go full GM.
• 27:57
  And Ford lurking in the background, waiting to pounce.
• 28:00
  Ford is waiting for Ferrari to win something so they can
• 28:03
  come and kick their ass again.
• 28:04
  You know, to Tanya's point about the designs are morphing, and you
• 28:09
  mentioned it, the new M5 is coming.
• 28:11
  Look at these spy photos of the new M5.
• 28:13
  This is the ugliest BMW to date.
• 28:16
  This is even uglier than the 7 Series.
• 28:18
  With the triple headlights.
• 28:19
  Remember that one?
• 28:20
  If you slapped a Dacia badge on this, I'd believe you.
• 28:23
  Or a Skoda badge.
• 28:24
  Sure.
• 28:25
  It looks like something that is from Eurasia that we would
• 28:29
  never get here in the States.
• 28:31
  I don't know what that is.
• 28:32
  It's a Honda, I think.
• 28:33
  All right.
• 28:34
  Let's move on to our next alien, which would normally be Stellantis.
• 28:38
  And in the old days.
• 28:39
  Before it was Stellantis, it was Daimler Benz, Chrysler, right?
• 28:43
  Well, all that stuff was 20 years ago, so we got nothing to talk about there.
• 28:46
  So we're going to move on to domestic news.
• 28:48
  And the reason it's domestic news is the headline reads,
• 28:52
  BMW will keep the V8 engine.
• 28:55
  Because Americans love it.
• 28:56
  Yeah, love a good VA. Yeah.
• 29:00
  I mean, I have no problem with this.
• 29:02
  That's perfectly fine.
• 29:03
  Give me all the V8, all the power.
• 29:05
  Give me all the sounds.
• 29:06
  Just amazing.
• 29:07
  Since we're talking about BMW and Mercedes, which sounds better?
• 29:11
  BMW V8 or AMG V8?
• 29:13
  Oh, AMG.
• 29:13
  1 million percent, hands down.
• 29:15
  Not even a contest.
• 29:16
  Yes, just the AMG sounds like it's literally trying to destroy the world.
• 29:21
  It's trying to rip the pavement apart underneath it.
• 29:25
  That's how AMG V8 sounds.
• 29:27
  I will never forget that Rolex where you and I stayed up all night and
• 29:31
  you could just feel the bends coming around the bowl in your chest.
• 29:35
  It was awesome.
• 29:36
  There awesome.
• 29:38
  Oh God, that was absolute ground pounder.
• 29:40
  That's the way the C7R sounded too.
• 29:42
  I mean, it was just.
• 29:43
  Earth shattering.
• 29:44
  It's trying to rip the world apart.
• 29:46
  I love it.
• 29:46
  Let's put a turbo four in the next M3.
• 29:49
  I think that's the way to go.
• 29:50
  Oh god.
• 29:52
  Tanya gave us some news here.
• 29:54
  It looks like BMW is not the only one that's going to be focusing
• 29:57
  on keeping big motors around.
• 29:58
  You know, apparently Mercedes AMG Is cooking up a next gen V8 engine.
• 30:04
  And we don't fully know what that means yet.
• 30:06
  Cause they say an electrified V8 is that a plug in hybrid?
• 30:10
  Is that self charging hybrid?
• 30:12
  What are we talking about here?
• 30:13
  But there's going to be some sort of new V8 coming.
• 30:16
  I'm guessing hybrid, like a performance hybrid.
• 30:18
  Cause didn't Porsche come out with like a performance hybrid or something.
• 30:21
  But both Honda and Audi.
• 30:23
  Developed an electric turbo as well.
• 30:25
  So that's an option too.
• 30:27
  Yeah, I don't think they're just going to slap a tornado on it.
• 30:31
  That's what they're going to say.
• 30:34
  Compressor with the K on the compressor.
• 30:37
  Yes.
• 30:37
  All right.
• 30:38
  Well, good on Mercedes.
• 30:39
  I think Mercedes is going to be one of those.
• 30:42
  Sort of like Chrysler where the V8 will never really go away for them because
• 30:47
  it is a staple for both of those brands.
• 30:50
  Yeah, but so is the diesel.
• 30:52
  The Mercedes and diesel was like, you know, didn't Rudolph
• 30:54
  diesel work for Mercedes or something like that at one point?
• 30:57
  I think that's where he might've invented it or something.
• 30:59
  Now you're above my pay grade.
• 31:00
  I gotta go back in my history books to remember that because
• 31:03
  like Porsche old man, Ferdinand Porsche, not fairy, his son.
• 31:07
  He worked for Mercedes as well.
• 31:08
  Back in the days of like the silver arrows, he was part of that
• 31:11
  whole racing pedigree that they started 120 years ago in Germany.
• 31:16
  I want to, I want to say it's a small country.
• 31:17
  It's, it's sort of a incestuous world in the auto making space.
• 31:21
  So there's a lot of crossover there.
• 31:23
  Not that we're talking about these brands, but kind of the same in Italy too, but
• 31:26
  it's like the opposite, the inverse.
• 31:28
  Ferrari didn't want to hire a tractor maker.
• 31:30
  So Lamborghini made his own car and then Lamborghini didn't want to hire somebody.
• 31:34
  So Pagani made his own car.
• 31:36
  And it's like, it's like the opposite of what you're describing, where
• 31:38
  they all worked together in Germany for the greater good, you know,
• 31:41
  for those that we won't talk about in, in Italy, it's the opposite.
• 31:44
  They're like, no, no, no, no.
• 31:45
  You're not good enough for us.
• 31:46
  You can't come work with me.
• 31:47
  To hell with you.
• 31:48
  I'll prove you wrong.
• 31:49
  I make my own car.
• 31:50
  Yeah.
• 31:50
  And then at the end of the day, Fiat owns everything.
• 31:52
  So it's like, whatever.
• 31:53
  Yeah, exactly.
• 31:55
  Fiat owns them all.
• 31:55
  Well, moving along to Japanese domestic and Asian car news.
• 31:59
  What the hell does that have to do with BMW and Mercedes?
• 32:02
  Two things.
• 32:03
  As a matter of fact, BYD is beating out Mercedes in Chinese sales because Mercedes
• 32:08
  was one of those brands that had always had a strong foothold in East Asia.
• 32:13
  And so now BYD is taking sales away from them and from BMW as well.
• 32:18
  So that's pretty interesting because that's a hot new brand.
• 32:21
  Taken down the big dogs.
• 32:22
  I've actually never heard of BYD.
• 32:24
  I mean, I'm not surprised.
• 32:25
  I'm a stupid American.
• 32:26
  Where have you been?
• 32:28
  Oh, we've talked about them before.
• 32:29
  Yeah.
• 32:29
  We probably have.
• 32:30
  I go to sleep during the episodes.
• 32:32
  I take micro naps.
• 32:33
  With his eyes open.
• 32:34
  It's like clockwork orange.
• 32:35
  God, your hair.
• 32:39
  That should be the podcast cover.
• 32:42
  It's just you and your hair, some eye makeup.
• 32:44
  We need Jess to help you out with some eye makeup.
• 32:47
  If I recall correctly, he was recently offered a haircut, but declined.
• 32:51
  Did, I'm growing it out.
• 32:52
  It's all good.
• 32:53
  I cut it in April.
• 32:54
  You're so dreamy.
• 32:57
  Meanwhile, we thought the Supra was going to be the only crossover.
• 33:01
  Between BMW and Toyota.
• 33:03
  Well, guess what?
• 33:03
  You were wrong.
• 33:04
  No, I don't think we ever thought it was.
• 33:06
  I thought they were like establishing a relationship,
• 33:08
  like a long term relationship.
• 33:09
  It's like this weird on again, off again, dating thing that BMW and Toyota have,
• 33:14
  but they're getting together again, because they're really the only two auto
• 33:18
  manufacturers outside of like Ligier that is doing any sort of research into
• 33:23
  hydrogen for the commercial market.
• 33:25
  So BMW a SUV, a new next generation X5 together that it's going to be
• 33:32
  hydrogen powered or whatever it is.
• 33:35
  So I thought that was kind of interesting.
• 33:37
  Didn't Chevy do a lot with hydrogen power back in like the early 2000s?
• 33:41
  Weren't they trying to do that too?
• 33:42
  They tried propane.
• 33:43
  They had that weird flex fuel Tahoe thing that didn't work out.
• 33:47
  Remember that?
• 33:47
  They tried coal in the back of a pickup truck.
• 33:50
  Steam engine.
• 33:51
  And then they bought into Nikola and that went under.
• 33:54
  No, that's going under now, right?
• 33:56
  Isn't that what the news is?
• 33:58
  Yes, apparently they're filing for bankruptcy.
• 34:00
  However, I thought they already were filed for bankruptcy, so I'm
• 34:03
  slightly confused by this headline.
• 34:06
  That's like, whatever, moving on.
• 34:08
  Interesting though, BMW and Toyota are not the only hydrogen developers
• 34:12
  because Hyundai has been quietly sort of a big player in the hydrogen
• 34:17
  fuel cell arena for some time now.
• 34:20
  So it's interesting, I guess, that there's no partnership with them.
• 34:22
  I will say Hyundai is the dark horse that everybody should be paying attention to.
• 34:28
  Because I think.
• 34:29
  They are going to slowly eclipse a lot of other brands that we're
• 34:33
  used to being enthusiastic about.
• 34:35
  I've said it before, you're looking for that GTI experience.
• 34:38
  Where do you go?
• 34:39
  You don't go to Volkswagen anymore because the new mark, whatever the hell it is.
• 34:42
  Golf is the size of a Tiguan.
• 34:44
  You go to Hyundai.
• 34:45
  And remember that our gorgeous never to see the light of day.
• 34:51
  Envision 74.
• 34:52
  Oh my.
• 34:53
  God is actually hydrogen.
• 34:55
  Now that's right.
• 34:56
  You're right.
• 34:57
  They did do that.
• 34:58
  I thought it was electric.
• 34:58
  It's boogie.
• 34:59
  Okay.
• 35:00
  My only grape or my only criticism of what you're saying about Hyundai
• 35:04
  kind of eclipsing, and especially in the enthusiast side of the house.
• 35:08
  Any Hyundai I've ever driven, they put up great numbers on paper, but
• 35:12
  they do not feel good to drive.
• 35:14
  And I've driven a few.
• 35:15
  I've never had a good experience driving a Hyundai.
• 35:18
  I was not impressed by my rental Sonata.
• 35:21
  They have to have an N badge.
• 35:22
  I recall it had this Allegedly weird eco mode.
• 35:26
  I think I was in Arizona and I swear to God that I got worse mileage in the eco
• 35:33
  mode than just leaving it in regular.
• 35:38
  Was it 120 degrees?
• 35:40
  No, it was actually quite chilly where I, where I was, but.
• 35:44
  95. All right, we have another section and I wanted to see if we could fill that.
• 35:51
  Sometimes, sometimes.
• 35:53
  We talk about two wheeled vehicles.
• 35:55
  We talk about bikes and BMW to make a bikes since bikes were new.
• 36:00
  And I couldn't find anything.
• 36:02
  There is nothing exciting going on on that side of the world.
• 36:05
  So that was pretty sad.
• 36:06
  One of their motorcycles is like one of the fastest bikes out right
• 36:10
  now, but it didn't hit the news.
• 36:12
  It didn't make the news because it's been around for a couple of years now.
• 36:15
  So you're, I guess you're right.
• 36:16
  It's got to be newsworthy, really newsworthy.
• 36:19
  Now we need to step into EVs and concepts, which is Tanya's territory.
• 36:22
  And I'm going to take this one, Tanya, because van life and Mercedes.
• 36:27
  So we all know how exciting the mattress is.
• 36:30
  You know, we're all going to really miss.
• 36:32
  It's that bread box and it's not to be confused with the Ram van, right?
• 36:35
  That we have here, this printer, all of these really, really
• 36:39
  exciting Mercedes products.
• 36:40
  No, no.
• 36:41
  You remember the R class?
• 36:42
  Do you remember that abomination that Mercedes made that was like a
• 36:45
  truck slash SUV slash station wagon?
• 36:48
  Thing that nobody understood.
• 36:50
  You mean the minivan?
• 36:51
  That thing was ugly.
• 36:52
  It was like a routine.
• 36:53
  It was horrible.
• 36:53
  They put a V8 in it.
• 36:55
  You could get an AMG version.
• 36:57
  That doesn't make it better.
• 36:58
  Yes, it does.
• 36:59
  That wakes a hundred cent better.
• 37:01
  It's like a Hellcat.
• 37:02
  It's like a Hellcat minivan.
• 37:03
  A Hellcat town and country.
• 37:05
  It's more like a cat that you stepped on its tail.
• 37:07
  That's what it is.
• 37:08
  Hey, this is not a Hellcat.
• 37:11
  It's a screamy cat.
• 37:12
  All right.
• 37:12
  So Mercedes decided get rid of the mattress.
• 37:14
  You're not the R class anymore.
• 37:16
  We need a van.
• 37:17
  Introducing.
• 37:18
  The V Class!
• 37:19
  It's an all electric minivan that's just like the ID Buzz,
• 37:22
  but doesn't have any fun at all.
• 37:25
  This has to be the most boring thing I've ever seen.
• 37:28
  Oh, before you move on, I actually saw an ID Buzz.
• 37:33
  I know we're not talking about Volkswagen.
• 37:35
  I saw an ID buzz on the road the other day in my area with the white roof.
• 37:40
  Did you like it?
• 37:41
  It was bigger than I expected it to be.
• 37:43
  So everybody says it did not look like 60, 000 though.
• 37:46
  It looked like 35, 000.
• 37:48
  That's what I keep saying, but Hey, whatever.
• 37:50
  But this one wrapped in, in wrapping paper looks pretty cool though.
• 37:54
  That reminded me of the Plymouth truck.
• 37:56
  It's missing a big red bow.
• 37:58
  This is the kind of crap that Mercedes is making to your point.
• 38:01
  German taxi cabs.
• 38:02
  Because where are we going to see this?
• 38:03
  It's going to have a lot of tons of livery on it and it's going to be moving
• 38:06
  people around Frankfurt airport because what else would you use this for?
• 38:10
  I swear if it was a different color, I'm seeing the vans from demolition man,
• 38:15
  murder, death, kill, murder, death, kill.
• 38:17
  All right, Tanya.
• 38:18
  Well, we've got some other exciting EV and concept news.
• 38:21
  Exciting?
• 38:22
  It's Tesla related.
• 38:23
  We can't talk about Tesla in this episode, but it's sort of Tesla adjacent.
• 38:27
  I love that.
• 38:28
  What are we talking about?
• 38:28
  Well, it says here that the new BMW i5 that we were talking about earlier, it
• 38:33
  has been spotted with a native NAX port.
• 38:36
  This could be the first brand to adopt the Maxport, which
• 38:41
  is the Tesla charging thing.
• 38:42
  That's not true.
• 38:43
  I thought somebody else already did.
• 38:45
  That's right.
• 38:46
  Lucid was first to market on that one, which I think is interesting
• 38:50
  because Lucid, to Brad's point about the Italians earlier, was
• 38:53
  literally people defecting from Tesla.
• 38:55
  Saying we can do better and go build our own tractor over there.
• 38:59
  And we'll call it lucid more than even lucid uses it because I
• 39:02
  thought Ford had already switched.
• 39:04
  No, I think they were all selling little adapters to go from the 1752 to the
• 39:09
  Max Porter or whatever, but Tesla's proprietary, not proprietary anymore,
• 39:13
  charging network, more brands are adopting so that you can use the charging network.
• 39:16
  Now there's no description in this.
• 39:19
  Well, okay, great.
• 39:20
  It's got the port.
• 39:21
  Now, how do I, as a BMW owner sign up for the Tesla charging network?
• 39:25
  It doesn't make any sense to me, or maybe they got a back convert.
• 39:28
  They'll go to a charge point, America, do a Tesla.
• 39:31
  And then like, you stupid, like trying to put diesel on your unleaded.
• 39:35
  Meanwhile, there's more dev and hydrogen options coming from BMW.
• 39:39
  This one's even uglier than the last one.
• 39:42
  I think this is a render.
• 39:43
  What is it?
• 39:44
  So they went from the giant, giant kidney grills.
• 39:47
  To the smallest grills possible.
• 39:49
  Jelly beans.
• 39:50
  They took these grills apparently from a one series and slapped them
• 39:54
  on the front of this big ol SUV.
• 39:56
  That has to be photoshopped.
• 39:57
  It looks fake.
• 39:58
  And hey, you know, I was complaining about double headlights and, you
• 40:03
  know, there are two X's here.
• 40:04
  This looks like Skeletor.
• 40:06
  Like I'm waiting for He Man to rush out and kill this thing any minute.
• 40:09
  It looks like the masks from the movie The Purge.
• 40:12
  The light up masks that the killers wear, that's, that's what this is trying to be.
• 40:16
  Now that you say it's Skeletor's car, I like it a little bit better.
• 40:20
  If it was the blue of Skeletor, I think I would enjoy it much more.
• 40:23
  Like, and it's got a match, you know what I mean?
• 40:25
  Isn't Skeletor like purple and gray?
• 40:26
  Whatever.
• 40:27
  Is the dress black and blue or is it white and gold?
• 40:32
  That That about sums that up.
• 40:41
  All right.
• 40:43
  That debate is still raging.
• 40:44
  I don't know why.
• 40:46
  Raging debate.
• 40:47
  Speaking of raging debates, Brad, I found you a do doy moment.
• 40:51
  Just read the headline for us, please.
• 40:53
  BMW says big displays, quote, disconnect drivers from the road.
• 40:58
  No shit, who would have thought a TV screen in the middle of your dashboard
• 41:03
  would be anything but distracting.
• 41:05
  Watching Netflix, chilling while you're going down the road.
• 41:08
  Tesla's you can play video games on your screen.
• 41:10
  Yeah, cup man.
• 41:11
  Butt man.
• 41:12
  So when you look at the picture of this dashboard, please.
• 41:15
  Tell me that that steering wheel is not mounted upside down, you know,
• 41:20
  it looks like it's upside down.
• 41:22
  I don't understand any of this interior really ugly.
• 41:25
  And then it's got the Honda prelude.
• 41:26
  If you remember like Brian's prelude, the second gen, it's got the whole
• 41:30
  dash all the way across the windshield.
• 41:33
  Well, the next article, like if you read hyperlink BMW's panoramic eye drive brings
• 41:40
  pillar to pillar display to future models.
• 41:43
  But it eliminates knob, which everyone says they want to bring back.
• 41:47
  Yes.
• 41:47
  Well, the knob is the person behind the wheel.
• 41:50
  That person's a knob.
• 41:51
  They're talking physical knobs.
• 41:52
  I know.
• 41:53
  Did you notice there's an actual picture of what we think is the
• 41:56
  Photoshop Skeletor car it's further down in this article that looks like a
• 42:00
  real picture of this thing, but there are no X's, but yeah, there's no X.
• 42:05
  It looks like that Nissan Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:08
  You know what I'm talking about?
• 42:09
  The one from like Gran Turismo or something?
• 42:11
  The Nismo.
• 42:12
  It was like the Nismo something or other.
• 42:14
  Yeah, it was supposed to be the ID something or other.
• 42:18
  It had an ID name because it was supposed to be like the new Dotson
• 42:21
  510 or whatever, they never made it, but again, it looks like Skeletor.
• 42:25
  Is this a half steering wheel?
• 42:26
  Something is wrong with this.
• 42:28
  Okay, so if you click the pillar to pillar future models thing, it shows you
• 42:33
  the steering wheel sitting on a table.
• 42:34
  It's a half steering wheel.
• 42:36
  It's horrible.
• 42:36
  You are right.
• 42:37
  If you flipped it upside down, it looks like the bottom
• 42:39
  half of the steering wheel.
• 42:43
  Awful.
• 42:44
  All right, Brad, it's time we moved to your favorite section
• 42:47
  of the drive thru lost and found.
• 42:48
  Now, before we get into, cause we're having such an enlightening, uplifting.
• 42:53
  You wanted this.
• 42:54
  That's all I'm saying is you wanted this.
• 42:56
  You know, and I am thoroughly enjoying it.
• 42:58
  I'm having a lot of fun.
• 42:59
  Regretting it is what you mean.
• 43:00
  It was amazing.
• 43:02
  Website cars and bids that was founded by Doug DeMuro, the writer
• 43:08
  and journalist from what was it?
• 43:10
  Jalopnik layoffs, hit cars and bids is the enthusiast car
• 43:14
  market comes back down to earth.
• 43:15
  And because DeMuro cashed out, right?
• 43:18
  They took a significant investment, 37 million, but that's at the worst
• 43:23
  end of the market for car sales.
• 43:25
  I mean, used cars were going through the roof and now everything's
• 43:27
  kind of come back down to earth and people that have these cars.
• 43:31
  Are trying not to sell them.
• 43:33
  Fewer cars are selling for what they were selling were no reserve and
• 43:36
  they weren't meeting their reserve.
• 43:38
  It's, it's just tons of issues.
• 43:40
  Not a good look for the industry.
• 43:41
  Not a good look for cars and bids.
• 43:43
  Well, it should have never gone off the rails the way it did.
• 43:46
  Covid is what made the used car market go nuts because people were bored
• 43:50
  and we all had that stimulus money.
• 43:52
  We all had that stimulus money.
• 43:53
  That stimulus money.
• 43:54
  We couldn't go out and drink anymore.
• 43:55
  We were all spending our money on cards.
• 43:57
  Yeah, we're getting stimuli for all of 11 bucks.
• 43:59
  That we got from that after taxes stimulated stimulus.
• 44:03
  But this brings up a question, is something similar in the cards
• 44:07
  for sites like bring a trailer?
• 44:10
  I think so.
• 44:10
  I really do.
• 44:11
  I've been saying that for a while.
• 44:12
  Will we finally be able to see.
• 44:15
  And air cooled nine 11 sell for less than 50 gajillion dollars.
• 44:19
  I mean, if that happens, I might buy one.
• 44:21
  I thought about it actually, like a 76 to 85, like in the period where nobody
• 44:26
  really wants them three liter or 3.
• 44:29
  2. And you're just sort of like, yeah, I'll do that.
• 44:31
  That wouldn't be too horrible.
• 44:32
  I'd love a cabrio.
• 44:32
  9 11 without the top might be a lot of fun.
• 44:35
  I mean, it doesn't really lose a lot of structural rigidity.
• 44:38
  So that'd be kind of cool.
• 44:39
  I don't know if you saw California occasion.
• 44:41
  Yeah, I would go.
• 44:42
  I would go.
• 44:43
  Full just the black, dusty, dirty, broken headlight, nine 11 cabriolet.
• 44:47
  I would totally rock one, but we can't, we have to buy BMWs.
• 44:50
  We're talking about BMWs and Mercedes doesn't make any, well, if you bought
• 44:53
  a Mercedes convertible, it'd be that SL 55 from like 1988, the V 12 monstrosity.
• 45:00
  That is a money pit to maintain.
• 45:02
  Although they're gorgeous.
• 45:03
  No, you get the AMG SL 55, the V8 from like 2000, the later ones.
• 45:09
  Yeah.
• 45:10
  Were 2005.
• 45:11
  The one that they used to always put up against the Terminator Mustangs.
• 45:15
  Tanya would buy the Mercedes that they used in Magnum PI that Rick drove.
• 45:19
  Yeah, he had that silver one.
• 45:20
  The same one that the lady in Once Upon a Time had, right?
• 45:23
  Yes, that's right.
• 45:24
  Yes, I would totally buy one of those.
• 45:26
  Yeah, late 70s SL, that screams Tanya right there.
• 45:29
  Like 460 SL, like one of those, that'd be good.
• 45:31
  So circle back to what you were talking about, about how the market has softened.
• 45:35
  I found this.
• 45:36
  Particular 2016 M4 that we're about to talk about.
• 45:40
  It was on bring a trailer and it was picked up by car scoops because
• 45:43
  they were like, Oh my God, M4 GTS competition, blah, blah, blah.
• 45:47
  It only has 500 miles on it.
• 45:51
  Okay, great.
• 45:52
  I don't care.
• 45:52
  Here's the point.
• 45:53
  Brand new MSRP sticker off the lot before destination taxes, tags, fees,
• 45:58
  and all the other nonsense that goes with that 134, 000 for this BMW.
• 46:02
  It sold on bring a trailer.
• 46:05
  This is how soft the market is right now.
• 46:07
  Okay.
• 46:07
  It's still expensive, but it's sold on bring a trailer 95 grand.
• 46:11
  So whoever sold this car dealership privateer, they lost money.
• 46:15
  50 grand in the shorts easily.
• 46:18
  That's a sign of the times right there, folks.
• 46:20
  That's actually good.
• 46:22
  If the market softens enough, the depreciation is real.
• 46:25
  It always has been.
• 46:27
  You can get into some of these cars.
• 46:28
  Now, granted, am I going to run out and spend a hundred grand on a BMW.
• 46:31
  No, I'm not going to do that, but it's got scaffolding.
• 46:34
  It's got a lot of things Clarkson would call it scaffolding in the back.
• 46:37
  And I like these and I coached one of these at VIR.
• 46:40
  It was amazing.
• 46:41
  It is a very smart vehicle.
• 46:43
  It can do a lot of really cool things and it's very fast.
• 46:47
  It's not a hundred thousand dollars for me.
• 46:48
  There's a competition version, right?
• 46:50
  Yeah.
• 46:50
  I had one, I mean, granted, what I was driving, but when it passed me
• 46:56
  on Koda, it came out of the final turn at Koda onto the back straight.
• 47:00
  Holy crap.
• 47:01
  Oh yeah, afterburners.
• 47:03
  I already saw he was coming.
• 47:04
  I had my arm out the window before I even went to turn.
• 47:08
  Which way was your finger pointing?
• 47:11
  Up.
• 47:11
  I was just like, go around, like, I know you're coming.
• 47:15
  Just go.
• 47:15
  I don't care.
• 47:16
  He came up to me after when we were done the session.
• 47:19
  He was like, wow, thanks for like giving me the point so early.
• 47:22
  I was like, how was I going to slow you up?
• 47:25
  He was doing warp seven.
• 47:26
  He closed on me so fast.
• 47:28
  It was ridiculous.
• 47:29
  And that's part of the problem with some of these new cars.
• 47:32
  You know, we could devolve this into a conversation about coaching, which is not
• 47:35
  worth it, but The new cars are so good.
• 47:39
  They are so fast, but there's nothing quite like driving an old car fast.
• 47:44
  You know what I mean?
• 47:44
  That's just whatever it is.
• 47:45
  What's interesting is there to me are even more shocking is because
• 47:49
  this was a special edition car.
• 47:51
  They only made 700 worldwide and he still lost money on it.
• 47:54
  Like I would have expected him to sell it for double.
• 47:57
  Exactly.
• 47:57
  That's the shocking part.
• 47:59
  Since we're talking about markets and trends and buying and you know, where
• 48:03
  BMW and Mercedes are kicking butt.
• 48:06
  Maybe it's because this continent slash country, I joke and have joked
• 48:11
  that they're 20 years behind the time.
• 48:13
  And so they're just now crossing into the 2000s.
• 48:16
  And BMW and AMG are kicking ass in Australia right now.
• 48:19
  The sales are just ridiculous.
• 48:21
  That also could be a result of the fact that Holden is no more.
• 48:24
  So you can't buy a Commodore HSV plus GT, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 48:29
  Chevy SS, whatever you want to call it.
• 48:31
  Or a Holden Monaro, which is a GTO, all that kind of stuff.
• 48:34
  So what do you have left?
• 48:35
  If you want a ground pounding V8 sports saloon sedan, then I guess
• 48:40
  you buy an AMG or you buy a BMW.
• 48:42
  Cause you can't buy a Ford or a Holden anymore.
• 48:48
  C 63.
• 48:50
  I know I was trying to avoid that.
• 48:52
  So basically if you want a ground pounding V8 move to
• 48:55
  America, cause we like them V8s.
• 48:59
  Yeah.
• 48:59
  We like them V8s and BMW.
• 49:00
  You're going to keep bringing them here.
• 49:02
  Hoping you wouldn't pick up on the fact that that was the fact that
• 49:05
  spelled out the title of the article.
• 49:07
  Nope.
• 49:08
  I would, I would have missed it.
• 49:09
  I wouldn't have seen it.
• 49:09
  Mr. Ben's must be rolling over in his grave, like a drill at
• 49:14
  full tilt because four cylinder.
• 49:17
  AMG.
• 49:18
  I mean, seriously, I don't want to say those words in
• 49:21
  the sentence and I just did.
• 49:22
  And now I need to go wash my mouth out.
• 49:24
  It's like disgusting.
• 49:25
  I mean, we've talked about it before in other cars.
• 49:28
  I think it makes sense in the C Class.
• 49:32
  No!
• 49:32
  Because you can get a ton of power out of No, it's a bullshit cop out because
• 49:38
  everybody else went four cylinder turbo.
• 49:40
  So somehow Mercedes decided that they needed to do that too.
• 49:44
  That AMG should have had a 3.
• 49:46
  2 liter naturally aspirated motor that they had in the earlier cars,
• 49:50
  which made close to 300 horsepower.
• 49:53
  And probably gets the same gas mileage as this stupid four cylinder.
• 49:56
  So here is where AMG and Mercedes screwed themselves for a while.
• 50:00
  They did have the 3.
• 50:02
  2 liter compressor.
• 50:03
  Yes.
• 50:04
  The early two thousands.
• 50:05
  They screwed themselves when they put the V8 in those little cars,
• 50:10
  because it was not sustainable.
• 50:12
  And now they've got to go back to something that personally if that
• 50:15
  V8 never existed in those cars, this would be totally acceptable.
• 50:18
  But because that V8 existed in those cars, everybody's like, no, go
• 50:22
  back to the V8, go back to the V8.
• 50:23
  Where's the V8?
• 50:25
  Had it never been in those cars, you wouldn't care about this.
• 50:28
  You'd be like, okay, cool.
• 50:29
  How much power does it make?
• 50:30
  400 some odd horsepower?
• 50:31
  Great.
• 50:31
  Sounds awesome.
• 50:32
  Sign me up.
• 50:33
  I have said this before, after driving a CLK Black, It's really
• 50:37
  hard to say you want a Mercedes that doesn't come with a V8.
• 50:41
  I understand.
• 50:42
  And the 3.
• 50:43
  2 is a compromise, but the 3.
• 50:44
  2 was a good motor.
• 50:45
  They put it in a lot of stuff and including, ugh, the Chrysler Crossfire
• 50:49
  and some other garbage because they owned Chrysler at that point.
• 50:53
  Realistically, that 3.
• 50:55
  2 is a good engine and I feel that it's a better solution
• 50:59
  than this four cylinder turbo.
• 51:00
  Like it's just ugh.
• 51:02
  And I've seen some of these A series.
• 51:04
  Mercedes as well.
• 51:05
  And it's like, you hear it before you see it.
• 51:08
  And you're like, Oh my God, is that a GTI?
• 51:10
  You know, it's got that, like all the four cylinders have now because
• 51:14
  they dump a little extra fuel and you get the little backfire.
• 51:17
  And if you like that, that's fine.
• 51:19
  The boy racer in me graduated a long time ago.
• 51:22
  And so there's no replacement for displacement sometimes, especially
• 51:26
  in some of these cars where you're paying this kind of money.
• 51:28
  Like that's the other thing.
• 51:29
  AMG C 63, you're going to pay 60, 70, 000.
• 51:34
  And you get a four cylinder like really, but it's got a turbo and it's hybrid.
• 51:40
  Keep all that crap.
• 51:40
  I don't care.
• 51:41
  So here's my problem.
• 51:42
  It's 190, 000 and it's got a four cylinder.
• 51:45
  Well, it's a, it's 190, 000 Australian.
• 51:48
  I don't know what that translates to.
• 51:49
  I mean, it's like rupees and pesos.
• 51:56
  I don't think the conversion's that bad.
• 51:59
  Let me look, let's consult the, you Googly 190, 000, wait, I put 1.
• 52:05
  9 million.
• 52:06
  That's too many.
• 52:08
  All right.
• 52:08
  122, 000 us dollars.
• 52:11
  That's still a lot of money.
• 52:12
  That is a lot of money for a four cylinder.
• 52:14
  And this is what we had.
• 52:15
  We discussed on the last episode, or maybe it was two episodes ago
• 52:19
  when they were going to bring out the AMG GT with the four cylinder.
• 52:21
  That is stupid.
• 52:23
  In a C class it makes sense to me, even in, maybe even in
• 52:27
  an E class to a lower degree.
• 52:29
  In an AMG GT, no, that's dumb.
• 52:31
  This next one, this is a fine Brad, dirt cheap.
• 52:34
  This wins the title, titles.
• 52:37
  Who has used the word goob recently?
• 52:41
  Thank you.
• 52:42
  When was the last time someone A goob for goober.
• 52:45
  That's what I wanted to talk about.
• 52:47
  Everything else here really doesn't matter because to your point, what
• 52:51
  was the last time you saw the word goob in print, let alone used.
• 52:56
  So I chuckled when I saw this on my newsfeed and I was
• 53:00
  like, all right, whatever.
• 53:01
  So what are we on about what it's time to talk about?
• 53:03
  Super rare V12 BMW Alpina.
• 53:06
  And the rest of the headline goes was stupid cheap because
• 53:09
  some goob swapped it to propane.
• 53:12
  Anybody realize the license plate on the car too?
• 53:19
  We can't say that on air.
• 53:20
  Just thought I would point that out there.
• 53:22
  That's one of Carlin's like seven words.
• 53:24
  You can't say on the air.
• 53:25
  That's for sure.
• 53:27
  Gorgeous.
• 53:28
  E 30.
• 53:29
  8, 7 series.
• 53:30
  This is like the transporter.
• 53:32
  I mean, this is the car we all salivate over with a V12, which
• 53:36
  is even better than the 740.
• 53:37
  Obviously it's a 750 base car, but what a goob.
• 53:40
  It looks like a goob.
• 53:42
  Well, this is the guy that bought it, isn't it?
• 53:43
  Isn't this the guy that bought it to fix it?
• 53:45
  So that's not the goob.
• 53:46
  No, there's a lot of goob in this.
• 53:49
  There's so much goob.
• 53:51
  But the license plate is my favorite part of the thing.
• 53:53
  It's just, the whole thing is delicious.
• 53:55
  Sticking with Alpena, I did actually see a newer Mangle era, Alpena 7
• 54:01
  series on the road the other day.
• 54:03
  There's a lot of like interesting shit in my like area.
• 54:05
  Well, there's nothing interesting in this news, so we'll just keep going.
• 54:09
  So we got nothing for the uncool wall and we could probably
• 54:12
  nominate a lot of really ugly BMWs.
• 54:15
  Same with Mercedes.
• 54:17
  I think we have already.
• 54:18
  Like, how about the iX?
• 54:19
  Oh my god.
• 54:20
  The new M5.
• 54:20
  I mean, they all go on the uncool wall.
• 54:22
  Everything this month could go on the uncool wall.
• 54:24
  So, I guess, Tanya, you're not remiss.
• 54:26
  Because New Year's resolution achieved.
• 54:28
  We're not gonna talk about Tesla.
• 54:29
  You know, this could start a precedent.
• 54:31
  Maybe we're done with those jokers.
• 54:33
  I don't know.
• 54:33
  We'll see.
• 54:34
  We have to move on, though.
• 54:35
  Lowered expectations.
• 54:42
  This whole thing has lowered my expectations at this point, but Brad,
• 54:45
  this one, this one is for you because this is the kind of stuff that I
• 54:49
  associate with Mercedes and Mercedes ownership and just the whole ethos.
• 54:54
  Hey, this is the car and I would appreciate a new knob if that was
• 55:00
  my car, because I bet the original one would be falling apart.
• 55:03
  This is a very James May article, I gotta say.
• 55:07
  I saw this and I just started laughing because I was like,
• 55:09
  This is Mercedes stuff.
• 55:11
  So it's an R107 SL, you know, W116 S class late seventies.
• 55:16
  Like we're talking about Magnum PI, you know, the mayor from once upon a time,
• 55:19
  all that kind of stuff, drove one of these, you know, on TV, gorgeous car.
• 55:23
  I've always liked these.
• 55:24
  My dad's boss had one of these.
• 55:26
  It was a light blue, really nice car.
• 55:29
  All I have to do is read the headline Mercedes.
• 55:32
  Spent two years, two years, reproducing a vintage parking brake knob.
• 55:39
  Seriously?
• 55:40
  Oops.
• 55:41
  You've been in business for this long, you just, you're on top of
• 55:44
  the world, you're like, nobody's going to take it away from us.
• 55:46
  So we'll spend two years building a part that was made in 1975.
• 55:50
  Because it probably took them 18 months to find a blueprint, a schematic of it.
• 55:56
  It's a freaking knob!
• 55:59
  Maybe they had to source the same materials from 1975.
• 56:03
  First, they built a time machine.
• 56:05
  Then they got a knob from their normal production process
• 56:08
  and then brought it back.
• 56:09
  This also sheds interesting light on this particular car.
• 56:12
  Why is this so funny, though, outside of the word knob followed by the
• 56:16
  license plate that we saw earlier that you'll see in the show notes?
• 56:19
  This is the parking brake!
• 56:20
  You pull this lever out of the dashboard with this knob that looks
• 56:25
  like it came from a kitchen cabinet out of my grandmother's house.
• 56:28
  Like, what is this?
• 56:30
  Who thought this was a good idea?
• 56:32
  It's like a choke.
• 56:33
  It's got all the little ribs on the outside.
• 56:36
  Yes, there's so much detail.
• 56:37
  It's even got chrome inlay.
• 56:39
  I can understand why it took two years to make something out of ABS plastic.
• 56:44
  Brad, this is the news.
• 56:45
  This is Mercedes news.
• 56:47
  We got the V class.
• 56:48
  We got this.
• 56:48
  We got four cylinders in Australia going for 125 grand.
• 56:52
  That's what they've got going on.
• 56:53
  This is why we don't talk about them.
• 56:55
  But look at how much fun we're having.
• 56:56
  Making fun of them.
• 56:57
  Exactly.
• 56:58
  That's what we do.
• 56:58
  Do we not make fun of all the car manufacturers that
• 57:01
  we talk about on this show?
• 57:02
  That is the show.
• 57:03
  That's what we do.
• 57:04
  All right.
• 57:05
  Well, we got to talk about rich people thing.
• 57:07
  Sponsored by Garage Stop Magazine.
• 57:08
  Because after all, what doesn't belong in your garage?
• 57:11
  Well, this should belong in your garage.
• 57:13
  I do like.
• 57:14
  These, this one's a little extra special because here's Johnny's 1988
• 57:19
  Mercedes Benz 560 2 door up for grabs.
• 57:22
  What do we think?
• 57:23
  How much?
• 57:23
  Why don't you guys guess?
• 57:25
  How much do you think it's sold for?
• 57:26
  I always liked this game.
• 57:27
  Too much?
• 57:28
  With the people who can appreciate this.
• 57:29
  Are they still alive?
• 57:30
  I mean, Johnny Carson, who the hell cares about Johnny Carson these days?
• 57:34
  We need two prices then.
• 57:35
  We need the Johnny Carson associated price uplift.
• 57:39
  And then if this was just.
• 57:41
  Johnny Randoson's car.
• 57:43
  The obscure reference to the gray one that was on the Raven spin off series
• 57:48
  of Highlander, because she drove one of these, a beautiful pewter color.
• 57:51
  No one knows what you're talking about.
• 57:53
  I know, but it was a gray 560 SEC, gorgeous car.
• 57:56
  But anyway, moving on.
• 57:57
  This thing should be like 30 grand.
• 57:59
  Oh.
• 57:59
  Oh.
• 58:00
  Oh.
• 58:00
  The non Carson version.
• 58:02
  I can't guess because I've clicked further through and saw the price.
• 58:05
  And Tanya, you.
• 58:07
  Hit it on the money.
• 58:08
  32, five.
• 58:10
  Because the person that bought it doesn't give a crap about Johnny Carson.
• 58:14
  This is the German equivalent to John Boyce LeBaron.
• 58:17
  It's just like that Seinfeld episode.
• 58:19
  Oh my God.
• 58:20
  Can you get ass man on the license plate?
• 58:23
  That was the goob.
• 58:24
  Why would you want that when you could have a GR Corolla, a variety of other
• 58:32
  better two door Mercedes that came.
• 58:34
  Later than that or earlier than that if we go back to the SL because
• 58:39
  it's Johnny Carson's so it smells like cheap cologne and cigars.
• 58:43
  I mean, that's what you want, right?
• 58:45
  Probably hookers.
• 58:45
  You hit the radio.
• 58:46
  It's Ed McMahon.
• 58:47
  He's like,
• 58:50
  Man, look at that car phone.
• 58:51
  That was 500 bucks extra for that.
• 58:53
  But is Mercedes going to need to make extra knobs for it?
• 58:56
  It's going to take them two years if you need one of them.
• 58:58
  True, true.
• 58:59
  It's super clean though.
• 59:00
  I mean for 32 grand, that's a super clean car.
• 59:03
  It's just not very good looking.
• 59:04
  No, the white is not nice.
• 59:05
  I would repeat that.
• 59:06
  No, I would get an early 2000 CL. So moving on with rich people thangs.
• 59:11
  Did everybody forget that BMW bought up some British auto manufacturers?
• 59:16
  You know, BMW owns Mini, BMW owns Rolls Royce.
• 59:19
  A bunch of other stuff.
• 59:20
  I didn't know they own Morgan.
• 59:21
  Well, they run BMW power plants in the Morgans and there's a new one coming.
• 59:26
  I don't hate it.
• 59:26
  I don't hate it either.
• 59:27
  It's kind of cool actually.
• 59:29
  It's probably still got a wooden frame too.
• 59:30
  So it's their plus six models running a straight BMW six cylinder, making 335
• 59:34
  horsepower in a turbocharged three liter.
• 59:37
  Here's the clincher.
• 59:38
  I know we weren't going to talk about Tesla, but you know how the
• 59:41
  Cybertruck has like one wiper blade?
• 59:43
  This has no wiper blades.
• 59:44
  Did they perfect the lasers?
• 59:45
  No, it has three wipers.
• 59:47
  In the front!
• 59:48
  Three?
• 59:48
  Three!
• 59:49
  How does that work?
• 59:50
  Look at it!
• 59:50
  It has three wiper blades.
• 59:52
  Oh, you're right.
• 59:52
  I didn't pay attention.
• 59:53
  Three little teeny wiper blades.
• 59:55
  Look at that.
• 59:55
  The question is, with BMW involved, how many turn signals does it have?
• 1:00:00
  Zero!
• 1:00:00
  Look at it!
• 1:00:01
  There are none to be found.
• 1:00:02
  You know what?
• 1:00:03
  They had to do it that way because the height of the glass is too short.
• 1:00:07
  Yes, but you see, they figured it out, and then the opposite end of the
• 1:00:10
  spectrum, when the glass is too big
• 1:00:15
  One white us who ruled them all.
• 1:00:17
  We all know that this is gonna be a $200,000 card that we can't
• 1:00:20
  afford, but Morgans are cool.
• 1:00:23
  They're very boutique, they're very niche.
• 1:00:25
  I love the three wheeler, the Morgan three wheeler, they're super cool, but if you
• 1:00:29
  ever been around one or getting a chance to ride in one, they're quirky and they.
• 1:00:33
  And it's that old school, nostalgic British roadster stuff.
• 1:00:37
  And it's like, if that's what you're into, I'll never forget that episode
• 1:00:40
  of Top Gear where they slid out the Arrow 8 from underneath of that 4 bus
• 1:00:44
  that they were transporting it in.
• 1:00:45
  I mean, that's so cool.
• 1:00:47
  And that's to talk to the scale of the Morgans too.
• 1:00:49
  They're really small.
• 1:00:50
  So again, if you like that British roadster and you want that bit of
• 1:00:53
  classic driving and you want something very modern at the same time, it's
• 1:00:57
  definitely something to look at going back to what we talked about last
• 1:01:00
  month with like Hamilton talking about, you know, hyper cars are dumb.
• 1:01:03
  You should buy a classic car.
• 1:01:04
  I honestly think this checks the box in both cases, you're getting a
• 1:01:08
  new car that is fast and reliable.
• 1:01:11
  I'm going to put air quotes around that.
• 1:01:13
  But you get that classic feel, right?
• 1:01:15
  So you don't have to put up with the classic car
• 1:01:17
  maintenance if you don't want to.
• 1:01:18
  I love the Morgan three wheeler, uh, just cause I think it's like very
• 1:01:21
  unique and the motorcycle motor up front and everything's really super cool.
• 1:01:25
  These remind me too much of like Cruella de Vil or League
• 1:01:28
  of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
• 1:01:30
  It's just, it's not my style.
• 1:01:31
  Little bit, yeah.
• 1:01:32
  It looks like the Nautilus in a way.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, I feel you there.
• 1:01:35
  Well, that wraps that up.
• 1:01:37
  So what's next?
• 1:01:38
  Oh!
• 1:01:39
  Have they come out of hibernation?
• 1:01:40
  Do we have anything going on down south?
• 1:01:43
  Down in Florida?
• 1:01:44
  We got some alligators and beer?
• 1:02:00
  I have not only procured you some Florida men out of hibernation.
• 1:02:04
  I have also added a Mercedes man to the mix.
• 1:02:09
  So we have both a BMW man, a Mercedes man, and a delightful
• 1:02:15
  side order of Florida man.
• 1:02:16
  Let's go.
• 1:02:17
  I always look forward to this.
• 1:02:18
  We will start with BMW man.
• 1:02:20
  This could have very easily been Cars and Coffee Mustang man.
• 1:02:24
  Very expensive M850i BMW man who decided he was going to do some
• 1:02:30
  sort of launch mode stunt in his 523 horsepower luxury vehicle in a
• 1:02:36
  shopping parking lot in California.
• 1:02:38
  Suffice it to say he ends up nearly taking out what looked like to be a transformer,
• 1:02:42
  some greenery, and three other vehicles that were parked in the parking lot.
• 1:02:47
  Obliterating one of them in the rear.
• 1:02:49
  That is epic.
• 1:02:50
  I'm not even sure how you do that much damage.
• 1:02:53
  Did he hit an Ultima?
• 1:02:54
  Is that what that is?
• 1:02:55
  Thought maybe it was a Lexus.
• 1:02:57
  It's got turn signals at work.
• 1:02:58
  It can't be a BMW.
• 1:02:59
  But it's really unrecognizable.
• 1:03:01
  Oh, that's really bad.
• 1:03:02
  That one clearly took the brunt of it, and then he must have
• 1:03:05
  ricocheted off and then hit the other two poor unsuspecting vehicles.
• 1:03:10
  Public service announcement.
• 1:03:11
  Don't do stupid crap like this.
• 1:03:12
  Durability test in the parking lot.
• 1:03:15
  I would love to see what the front of the BMW looks like.
• 1:03:19
  It's giant grills.
• 1:03:20
  Ain't two pedestrians.
• 1:03:21
  Now, this next one, I have to warn people.
• 1:03:25
  There's graphic content here.
• 1:03:26
  Uh oh.
• 1:03:27
  It's disturbing and it's uncalled for.
• 1:03:30
  And I think this man needs to have his Mercedes tested.
• 1:03:33
  So this is British man whose dash cam, while he left his car at
• 1:03:38
  whatever the service shop, they took it into what is a very disgusting
• 1:03:41
  looking car wash that looks like it's a urinal from a bad gas station.
• 1:03:45
  Needless to say, the dash cam, and there's video of this, thankfully it's blurred.
• 1:03:49
  You should watch it because it's horrific when it gets to the end.
• 1:03:53
  The mechanic, or whoever this technician person was, decided to urinate
• 1:04:01
  on this man's A35 Mercedes.
• 1:04:08
  What possessed these people?
• 1:04:09
  Who does this?
• 1:04:10
  Apparently this guy does.
• 1:04:13
  You gotta go, you gotta go.
• 1:04:14
  I mean, come on.
• 1:04:15
  Obviously he's been pissing on these walls the whole time and he went,
• 1:04:18
  Oh look, something new to be on.
• 1:04:20
  I mean, it looks like the walls have been pissed on.
• 1:04:23
  I know it's green algae, but still.
• 1:04:25
  Working his territory.
• 1:04:26
  I think the car needs to have some testing done on it to make sure it's clean.
• 1:04:30
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
• 1:04:32
  That's unreal!
• 1:04:34
  Alright, then we'll come back across the pond and we're gonna go to Florida.
• 1:04:38
  Yeah!
• 1:04:38
  Cause the Florida men Have woken.
• 1:04:41
  Oh boy.
• 1:04:42
  And we got Florida man drive bizarre chop car for no good reason.
• 1:04:47
  This looks like something Daniel would make.
• 1:04:50
  This is, this is nothing new.
• 1:04:52
  This is what the Volkswagen people did with their diesel gig cars.
• 1:04:55
  This isn't new.
• 1:04:57
  Is this a neon?
• 1:04:58
  No, it's a Chevy Aveo.
• 1:05:00
  This is bad.
• 1:05:02
  The genesis of this was it's involved in some sort of side
• 1:05:05
  collision and I guess you can kind of see that from the passenger side
• 1:05:08
  because it does look damaged there.
• 1:05:10
  The handrail?
• 1:05:12
  Hey man, you can't fall out of the, it's probably there to keep
• 1:05:16
  you from falling out of the car.
• 1:05:18
  That's probably makes it legal.
• 1:05:19
  I mean, look, he put that, he put that half cage in there too.
• 1:05:22
  The half cage that's below his neck.
• 1:05:24
  What does that even serve the purpose?
• 1:05:30
  This is bad.
• 1:05:31
  Apparently, allegedly, the guy had some thought that, you know,
• 1:05:34
  he was going to turn this thing.
• 1:05:36
  Don't say a race car.
• 1:05:37
  It'd be lightweight.
• 1:05:38
  It'd be a game changer.
• 1:05:40
  Unfortunately, sadly, it tops out at 95 miles an hour.
• 1:05:44
  Regardless of what it weighs.
• 1:05:45
  That's it.
• 1:05:46
  Whoopsies.
• 1:05:47
  You need to tune.
• 1:05:48
  Wake those ponies up.
• 1:05:50
  I think I've seen less bars in a handicapped shower.
• 1:05:53
  This thing is so bad.
• 1:05:54
  To your point, I think I've seen this parked on Daniel's property.
• 1:05:59
  All right, don't click the next link.
• 1:06:01
  Oh boy.
• 1:06:02
  Okay.
• 1:06:02
  Cause we're gonna play a guessing game, but you can't, you can't
• 1:06:05
  flick the link before you guess.
• 1:06:07
  Okay.
• 1:06:08
  So we got a Florida man arrested after a 100 mile an hour chase
• 1:06:11
  through Kennedy Space Center.
• 1:06:13
  But we haven't had a good 100 mile an hour chase in a while.
• 1:06:16
  Now the real question is.
• 1:06:17
  What was he driving?
• 1:06:18
  I will give you a hit.
• 1:06:19
  It wasn't a BMW or Mercedes.
• 1:06:21
  When we do the lost and found section, who's the guy that Brad's
• 1:06:25
  always looking for the new old car?
• 1:06:27
  Uh, Chuck LaDuck.
• 1:06:27
  Chuck LaDuck.
• 1:06:29
  That's your hit.
• 1:06:31
  Car was this guy driving over a hundred miles an hour in Florida chocolate duck
• 1:06:36
  sold jeeps and rams No, but that's not the car you're usually looking for.
• 1:06:41
  No Is he driving a dart click the link baby and tell me what that car
• 1:06:46
  is That's awesome, that's awesome That was your first mistake, boy.
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  Second mistake was doing cocaine and getting in the car, but hey, whatever.
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  Yes, obviously.
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  Where are his shoes?
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  Cocaine, do we need to say anymore?
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  Not at all.
• 1:07:06
  I love this from the sheriff's office.
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  If you try to run from us in Brevard County, we promise
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  you'll only go to jail tired.
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  All right.
• 1:07:17
  I saved the best for last.
• 1:07:19
  Here we go.
• 1:07:20
  There's a video.
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  Oh no.
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  Because we haven't had one of these in a while either.
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  But caught on camera, Florida man riding a lawnmower, crashes into mailboxes.
• 1:07:32
  And he's good.
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  He's good.
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  There's a lot, there's a lot of mowing lawn in Florida.
• 1:07:37
  I gotta say.
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  How did he flip over the front of it?
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  Ice over tea kettle!
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  I watch that all day!
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  Oh my god, that's so good!
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  I love how the sea comes up and just whacks him.
• 1:08:05
  Like, make sure he goes all the way over.
• 1:08:07
  And then he's stumbling down through that gullet.
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  This is so awesome!
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  You know, it's an awesome day.
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  I know we all were like, Ugh, everybody's got ring cameras.
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  But this is great.
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  This is the reason why you should have a ring camera on your house.
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  It's to capture stuff like this.
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  He flipped over the lawnmower, stumbled through the drain ditch, and then got back
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  on the lawnmower like nothing happened.
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  Did you see what he hit?
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  The mailbox was encased in stone.
• 1:08:40
  And that's why people do it.
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  That's so good.
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  Whew.
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  Oh, I needed that.
• 1:08:44
  Florida man's back, baby.
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  With a vengeance.
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  Stop, bless.
• 1:08:47
  Woohoohoo!
• 1:08:48
  Only in Florida.
• 1:08:50
  All right, well, it's time we go behind the pit wall, talk about motorsports news.
• 1:08:54
  And all there is to talk about is Formula One, because BMW, ah.
• 1:08:59
  We talked about BMW and Rolex.
• 1:09:01
  We did.
• 1:09:01
  Well, we'll kind of close that loop to say that BMW did qualify on the pole
• 1:09:07
  at Rolex with Vanthor behind the wheel.
• 1:09:09
  But then he, the same driver that put BMW on the pole, threw it all
• 1:09:13
  away in the last hour of the race.
• 1:09:16
  By being too aggressive.
• 1:09:17
  So goodbye, BMW that gave Porsche the win and everything else.
• 1:09:21
  So all there is left to really talk about is torque sensors and formula one.
• 1:09:31
  Formula
• 1:09:42
  one season hasn't started yet.
• 1:09:43
  Russell is the senior driver at Mercedes now.
• 1:09:47
  Yep.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah.
• 1:09:48
  Is there anything else to say?
• 1:09:49
  He thinks it's going to launch a new era for himself or a new chapter
• 1:09:53
  or whatever, but he has no team support because he's got forget who
• 1:09:57
  now is the dude, but he's a complete rookie green, green, green and F1.
• 1:10:02
  Oh, that's Antonelli.
• 1:10:03
  Antonelli.
• 1:10:04
  So that's great, but it's also helpful when you have a teammate that
• 1:10:07
  at least is marginally competitive alongside you that can do things like.
• 1:10:13
  Help block or fend off the approach of everyone else.
• 1:10:17
  But I, I see him being mostly alone and he's probably going to struggle.
• 1:10:22
  Antonelli is what, how old is he now?
• 1:10:25
  Well, I don't know what he's 19.
• 1:10:27
  I think he's like the youngest formula one driver on the grid.
• 1:10:30
  I don't think he's the youngest to start a formula one race.
• 1:10:33
  But he's the youngest in Formula One and right now.
• 1:10:35
  And it's just like, apparently Mercedes hand picked him when he was 11 back
• 1:10:40
  when he was go karting and stuff.
• 1:10:41
  And so I don't know, they, I guess they've invested a lot of money in him and time
• 1:10:44
  and resources over the last eight years.
• 1:10:47
  So they're hoping he's going to be the next prodigy.
• 1:10:49
  Didn't he have like a big, massive, unnecessary wreck one of his first races?
• 1:10:54
  I believe so.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  I don't see good things for Mercedes this year.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah.
• 1:10:58
  But there is rumor that your boy Botas.
• 1:11:00
  He's a reserve driver again for them.
• 1:11:03
  Yeah, which honestly would mean if Antonelli doesn't deliver maybe
• 1:11:08
  there's a chance they kick him out and put Botas back in the seat.
• 1:11:10
  But then Botas would be the senior driver.
• 1:11:13
  Would he though?
• 1:11:14
  Or does he got to take team orders from Russell?
• 1:11:16
  I guess it would depend on uh, what the performance looks like.
• 1:11:19
  Botas is faster than Russell.
• 1:11:20
  We already know that, right?
• 1:11:22
  So what is he going to do?
• 1:11:23
  Just sandbag the whole time?
• 1:11:24
  And are we just saying senior driver as like, as a product of their age, or do
• 1:11:29
  we mean like their seniority, the lead driver, like the driver one and driver
• 1:11:33
  two by senior, we'd mean the lead for the team, which generally should be
• 1:11:38
  dictated by experience or it should be dictated by wins, whoever's performing
• 1:11:42
  the best, which would then be Botas.
• 1:11:45
  I was going to say, because Russell has none and Antonelli has none.
• 1:11:48
  No, Russell's won, I don't know, three, four.
• 1:11:52
  There's more that goes into it, obviously, than wins and stuff like that and
• 1:11:55
  experience and everything, but it's who they're hanging their future on.
• 1:11:59
  Which probably wouldn't be Botas.
• 1:12:01
  Because Botas is towards the end of his career.
• 1:12:02
  But Russell is still very much in the middle of his career.
• 1:12:05
  He's like reaching his peak or his prime.
• 1:12:07
  Antonelli is starting, you know, what they're hoping is a really good career.
• 1:12:11
  But.
• 1:12:12
  To talk about something Mercedes adjacent, who is the quote unquote
• 1:12:17
  senior driver now at Ferrari?
• 1:12:18
  Is it Hamilton or is Leclerc still driver one?
• 1:12:22
  It's gotta be Hamilton.
• 1:12:23
  That is something I've been wondering because that is a very ugly
• 1:12:28
  political drama that they are now in.
• 1:12:30
  Because Leclerc was driver one when Sainz was there, right?
• 1:12:34
  Correct.
• 1:12:35
  Supposed to be.
• 1:12:35
  Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  But how do you bring the seven time world champion onto your
• 1:12:40
  team and say you are number two?
• 1:12:42
  And this goes back to what I said last time about Lewis Hamilton,
• 1:12:47
  not being able to do jack of all at Ferrari, because if they play Ferrari
• 1:12:52
  politics, like they always have.
• 1:12:54
  Just like the opportunities when Barrichello had to win over Shumi.
• 1:12:58
  And they said, get out of the way, Rubens.
• 1:13:00
  Michael's coming through.
• 1:13:02
  If LeClaire is senior driver, Hamilton has to follow team orders.
• 1:13:06
  Cause that's the way it works.
• 1:13:07
  And he's not going to amount to Jack at the end of the year, because he's always
• 1:13:11
  going to be in second place to LeClaire.
• 1:13:12
  Unless he's outperforming LeClaire, then they're going to tell him.
• 1:13:16
  Depends on how his contract is written.
• 1:13:18
  If his contract is written, that he is the number two driver.
• 1:13:21
  He's done.
• 1:13:22
  There is no way his contract is written.
• 1:13:24
  He's a number two driver.
• 1:13:25
  He is going for eighth world champion.
• 1:13:28
  There's so there's no way he's going to sign something that's going to prevent
• 1:13:31
  him from being an eight time champion.
• 1:13:33
  Then that answers your question.
• 1:13:35
  Yeah, I guess it does.
• 1:13:36
  But if he's not performing, I don't think they're just going to
• 1:13:39
  be like LeClair sandbag and make sure, you know, you let Lewis win.
• 1:13:42
  Right.
• 1:13:43
  But if he actually is a contender, there's no way they're going to tell LeClair.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, that's true.
• 1:13:48
  And to Eric's point in previous episodes, They have to actually be
• 1:13:51
  in a position to win a race before any of this comes in question anyway.
• 1:13:57
  So they've still got a lot of work to do.
• 1:13:58
  This is all posturing now because we don't know what's going to happen.
• 1:14:02
  The only thing we do know is they revealed the new cars, which to me look
• 1:14:06
  exactly like the cars from last year.
• 1:14:08
  They always do like a couple of years ago, I got super excited about all the
• 1:14:12
  car reveals and I looked at them and like, sometimes they release them in
• 1:14:15
  like really cool colors or something really unique and then comes race day.
• 1:14:19
  And it's like, it's the exact same cars before.
• 1:14:21
  What did you change?
• 1:14:22
  What is this?
• 1:14:23
  I don't care.
• 1:14:24
  I've been saying that and everybody makes fun of me, but whatever.
• 1:14:27
  It's fine.
• 1:14:28
  And the Mercedes especially looks the same as it did the W 16, whatever
• 1:14:33
  the hell, whatever cares, same cars last year with suckier drivers.
• 1:14:37
  When does your album come out?
• 1:14:40
  What do we call my album?
• 1:14:42
  Bimmers and Benz.
• 1:14:43
  If I may digress for a moment, just tangentially, I finally started
• 1:14:48
  watching the Netflix docudrama Senna.
• 1:14:51
  Oh, did you?
• 1:14:52
  I am on the final episode.
• 1:14:55
  Of course, I know how it ends.
• 1:14:56
  It's like Titanic.
• 1:14:59
  No spoilers.
• 1:15:01
  Unfortunately, I know how it ends.
• 1:15:03
  Wow.
• 1:15:03
  That's interesting.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:07
  You got to listen to the podcast episode we did with John Summers and Will Ross.
• 1:15:11
  And I have not because I've wanted to experience the series for myself.
• 1:15:15
  You'll have to come back and tell us if we were right.
• 1:15:17
  Well, I will say, and you don't have to confirm or deny
• 1:15:21
  anything, there is definitely a sense of, this is Jesus Christ.
• 1:15:27
  So the word the motoring historian John Summers likes to use is beatification.
• 1:15:32
  That is the official word he uses to summarize that
• 1:15:35
  sentiment that Senna is God.
• 1:15:37
  Yeah.
• 1:15:38
  Very interesting.
• 1:15:39
  And Prost is Darth Vader, but you know, whatever, it's all good.
• 1:15:42
  Is that completely untrue?
• 1:15:46
  Well, you need to listen to the episode for sure, because we get into all that.
• 1:15:49
  So that being said, last little bit of Formula One stuff.
• 1:15:52
  Your boy, Toto, Mr. Mercedes, highest paid player in Formula One.
• 1:15:57
  This is why Mercedes can't win anything.
• 1:15:59
  They're too busy paying Toto's salary.
• 1:16:01
  He had a response to Hamilton's iconic recreation of Schumacher's
• 1:16:05
  photograph at Maranello.
• 1:16:07
  What do we think?
• 1:16:07
  I don't actually know what his response was.
• 1:16:10
  The article is clickbait.
• 1:16:11
  No, they, they have it down there.
• 1:16:13
  It's a little bit like you divorce amicably and it's all good.
• 1:16:16
  Then you see your ex partner for the first time with a new friend.
• 1:16:19
  I'm really happy for him.
• 1:16:20
  And I told him that those pictures were iconic.
• 1:16:22
  that he made.
• 1:16:23
  It was so well curated and no surprise with Lewis.
• 1:16:26
  So it's all good fun.
• 1:16:27
  He's fine.
• 1:16:28
  Do people not realize it is literally a copy of something
• 1:16:31
  that Schumacher did 30 years ago?
• 1:16:33
  Literally everybody realizes that, yes.
• 1:16:36
  It's nothing new or iconic.
• 1:16:38
  It was already done and it was iconic then.
• 1:16:41
  It's weird.
• 1:16:41
  Am I wrong?
• 1:16:42
  Well, he's trying to tap into his inner Schumacher.
• 1:16:45
  This is my problem with Hamilton.
• 1:16:47
  If you remember him when he was really young and he showed up on Top Gear
• 1:16:51
  and he was like the last one to drive the old piece of junk celebrity car
• 1:16:55
  that they had and he was like super fast and he blew everybody out of the
• 1:16:58
  water and he was just a young guy.
• 1:17:00
  That was the last time I think I saw Hamilton.
• 1:17:02
  Like.
• 1:17:03
  Be himself.
• 1:17:04
  He turned into this machine of the media kind of thing.
• 1:17:08
  And he's like a little Ken doll that they dress up.
• 1:17:11
  I feel like he never gets to be who he was then when he was up and coming in racing.
• 1:17:17
  And he was fast and he was good and not saying he isn't
• 1:17:19
  good today, but he's older.
• 1:17:21
  He's more mature now.
• 1:17:22
  And I think he's part of the machine rather than just being himself.
• 1:17:25
  So that brings up a good point.
• 1:17:27
  You think this photo was put together by Ferrari and it wasn't Hamilton's idea.
• 1:17:32
  I do think that yes, he's like a little dress up toy.
• 1:17:35
  He's a puppet.
• 1:17:35
  See that Ferrari's trying to make a statement.
• 1:17:38
  You got to remember Ferrari too.
• 1:17:39
  You don't go to Ferrari and give them an idea.
• 1:17:42
  They tell you what needs to be done.
• 1:17:45
  That's what they wanted.
• 1:17:46
  And maybe in their eyes, they see Hamilton as Schumacher's replacement.
• 1:17:50
  Schumacher never got.
• 1:17:52
  The 8th, he left after his 7th, right?
• 1:17:54
  He went to Mercedes.
• 1:17:55
  Speaking of Mercedes, never accomplished anything there.
• 1:17:59
  And then obviously the tragedy of the accident and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:18:02
  And now they have Hamilton and they're like, we can be part of the
• 1:18:05
  8th that we never had with Shumi.
• 1:18:07
  So let's sort of pick up where Schumacher left off.
• 1:18:09
  But it's not just let him be who he's going to be.
• 1:18:12
  And I guess, I don't know.
• 1:18:13
  That's what turns me off about it versus like, I know that
• 1:18:17
  Alonzo is the elder statesman.
• 1:18:19
  I'm not a huge Alonzo fan, but Alonzo has always been Alonzo.
• 1:18:23
  When he was in WEC, when he was in Formula One, when he won the IndyCar, it's like,
• 1:18:26
  Hey, you just kind of follow him around.
• 1:18:27
  You're glad it's Alonzo.
• 1:18:28
  You know, he is who he is.
• 1:18:29
  But there's been, for me, this transformation with Lewis that
• 1:18:32
  I. I don't understand, but I'm glad to see Botas back.
• 1:18:36
  He's the Finn that's going to be an Australian soon, right?
• 1:18:38
  Like that's, he's making his own transformation, but in a good way.
• 1:18:41
  We won't belabor it, but I think he is being who he is and who he
• 1:18:45
  is, is a person that evolved from where he was when he was younger.
• 1:18:49
  And whether we like what that evolution is, it's an evolution for him.
• 1:18:53
  That's fair.
• 1:18:54
  That's fair.
• 1:18:55
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  That's gold, Jerry.
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  It's gold.
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  Well, that's when the red lights off.
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  That's how the good stuff comes out.
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  Yeah, I don't pay any attention to the red light.
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  Yeah, they made it so small now you can't even tell that it's there.
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  Out there, you gotta, you gotta hover over something to see it come up.
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