Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Assistant Commissioner of Regional and Remote Policing Martin Dole says extra officers will remain in Alice Springs until January to keep crime at bay
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, if you joined us on the show on Friday,
- 0:01Speaker 1: you would have heard the Police Commissioner confirming that police
- 0:04Speaker 1: recruits are going to be sent to Central Australia in
- 0:07Speaker 1: an effort to keep things under control over the summer period.
- 0:10Speaker 1: It follows that surge of more than forty officers just
- 0:13Speaker 1: weeks ago. And joining me on the line to tell
- 0:16Speaker 1: us more about the situation is the Assistant Commissioner of
- 0:19Speaker 1: Regional and Remote Policing, Martin Dole.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Good morning, Katie, Assistant Commissioner.
- 0:27Speaker 1: How many officers are going to be heading to Alice
- 0:30Speaker 1: Springs or have they arrived yet?
- 0:33Speaker 3: So it depends what you're talking about with numbers, Katie.
- 0:36Speaker 3: We've got fourteen new officers arriving permanently in Oura Springs
- 0:40Speaker 3: on Monday, so that's twelve new recruits that have recently
- 0:44Speaker 3: graduated and two new Aboriginal Community Police officers. But our
- 0:48Speaker 3: numbers of temporary staff that we're maintaining in Central Australia
- 0:52Speaker 3: for Operation Drina are also continuing. So they've been coming
- 0:56Speaker 3: and going since the twenty fourth of November and we're
- 0:58Speaker 3: going to continue to have in in preest assets here
- 1:00Speaker 3: in Central Australia right over the Christmas period to the
- 1:04Speaker 3: end of January.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So with the forty five officers that had
- 1:07Speaker 1: initially been surged in, what's the situation with them now?
- 1:11Speaker 2: How's that working with Operation Drina?
- 1:14Speaker 3: So, like I said, so since the twenty fourth of November,
- 1:18Speaker 3: we've had sometimes in excess of forty five extra offices here.
- 1:22Speaker 3: So we've pulled the Commissioner of Police as directed that
- 1:25Speaker 3: we pull resources from a number of areas to support
- 1:28Speaker 3: Central Australia and Operation Drina. So at times we've had
- 1:31Speaker 3: in excess of that forty five that was initially announced
- 1:34Speaker 3: right at the beginning on the twenty fourth of November.
- 1:37Speaker 3: So numbers are a hard game because every day we've
- 1:40Speaker 3: got officers coming and going. But we're going to continue
- 1:43Speaker 3: increase resourcing here right till the end of January to
- 1:46Speaker 3: continue the great work that Operation Drina's doing and delivering well.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And it looks as though it has had some pretty
- 1:51Speaker 1: good results. Talk us through some of you know what
- 1:55Speaker 1: you've seen as a result of those additional officers being
- 1:57Speaker 1: there and that surge in in resourcing.
- 2:02Speaker 3: So for the last two days in Ala Springs, we've
- 2:04Speaker 3: had zero unlorful entries reported to US, So zero unlofful
- 2:07Speaker 3: entries is a significant impact for Alice Springs. We've been
- 2:11Speaker 3: plagued with property chrome for months now, so zero unlufful
- 2:15Speaker 3: entries is a great result. Some of the results that
- 2:18Speaker 3: Operation Drina has had since commencing operations on the twenty
- 2:22Speaker 3: four to November, We've made over one hundred arrests of
- 2:24Speaker 3: offenders in the area of operation. We've handed out one
- 2:28Speaker 3: hundred and fifty seven traffic infringement notices, we've handed out
- 2:31Speaker 3: forty five summary infringent notices, and we've tipped out nearly
- 2:35Speaker 3: nine hundred liters of alcohol being drunk in a public
- 2:37Speaker 3: place in contravention of the Liquor Act.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Nine hundred liters, did you say so?
- 2:43Speaker 3: Eight hundred and ninety two to be specific. That was
- 2:46Speaker 3: our stats on Monday, So I haven't updated the last
- 2:49Speaker 3: two days, but yeah, nearly nine hundred liters of alcohol
- 2:52Speaker 3: been consumed in a public place in contravention of the
- 2:54Speaker 3: Liquor Act.
- 2:55Speaker 2: That's pretty unbelievable.
- 2:58Speaker 3: It's huge figures, but you know, taking action destroying that alcohol.
- 3:04Speaker 3: We've also taken four hundred and seventy three people into
- 3:07Speaker 3: protective custody over that period, and that's people that are
- 3:10Speaker 3: intoxicated in a public place that aren't capable of caring
- 3:13Speaker 3: for themselves, and that's had a significant impact on any
- 3:17Speaker 3: social behavior that we've been seeing in the central business
- 3:19Speaker 3: district of Alice Springs.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it has.
- 3:22Speaker 1: When you talk about so, did you say four hundred
- 3:24Speaker 1: and seventy three people taken into protective.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Custody, that's correct, Yes, And where like is that.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Being taken to the watchhouse or is there a you know,
- 3:32Speaker 1: is there a facility where they can go to sober up.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Yes, So that's a combination of all of the places
- 3:39Speaker 3: that we can take people into protective custody. So that's
- 3:42Speaker 3: the watchhouse, the shelters. So we've got a drug and
- 3:45Speaker 3: alcohol shelter here which is DAFFA. We've also got people
- 3:49Speaker 3: we can convey to the hospital if they're so intoxicated
- 3:52Speaker 3: that we concern about the health and that includes people
- 3:54Speaker 3: that are conveyed home as well.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Assistant Commissioner.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Look, I know you can't get into the politic ex
- 4:00Speaker 1: SciTE of things, but when you look at the number
- 4:02Speaker 1: of leaders that have been tipped out of mean eight
- 4:04Speaker 1: hundred and ninety two leaders was the latest figure from Monday,
- 4:08Speaker 1: the fact that four hundred and seventy three people have
- 4:10Speaker 1: been taken into protective custody as a result of you know,
- 4:14Speaker 1: of alcohol issues by the sounds of it, or in
- 4:16Speaker 1: contravention I think you said of the alcohol liquor requirements
- 4:22Speaker 1: in Central Australia. I mean, does that demonstrate to you
- 4:27Speaker 1: that there has been a change since the ending of
- 4:29Speaker 1: that stronger Futures legislation or is that sort of too
- 4:32Speaker 1: difficult to tell.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Look, I think that the fact is, and the truth is, Katie,
- 4:37Speaker 3: that we've had a problem in this town with alcohol
- 4:39Speaker 3: consumption for a very long time. Of course, we have
- 4:43Speaker 3: seen some increases since the lifting of Stronger Futures, and
- 4:46Speaker 3: that was always going to be the case. In the interim,
- 4:49Speaker 3: I think, you know, we're coming up to the six
- 4:51Speaker 3: month mark now where we've been keeping statistics, So it'll
- 4:53Speaker 3: be interesting to have a look at the six month
- 4:56Speaker 3: assessment of all of those factors and actually see how
- 4:59Speaker 3: much it has impacted our business. But yeah, there's no
- 5:02Speaker 3: doubt that there is more alcohol flowing into the community
- 5:05Speaker 3: and it's causing issues.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be really interested to see how it does
- 5:08Speaker 1: look at the end of that six month period, Assistant Commissioner,
- 5:12Speaker 1: I know that you've said that obviously you've had to
- 5:14Speaker 1: draw in some of those resources from other areas to
- 5:17Speaker 1: make sure that you know that you're able to deal
- 5:19Speaker 1: with what was going on in Alice Springs. Has that
- 5:22Speaker 1: had an impact on some of the more remote communities, So.
- 5:26Speaker 3: No specific incidences where we haven't been able to provide
- 5:29Speaker 3: policing services. So the Commissioner of Police was pretty clear
- 5:33Speaker 3: we had to draw resources from where we could get them,
- 5:35Speaker 3: but we also had to be able to make sure
- 5:37Speaker 3: that we could maintain service delivery to the areas that
- 5:40Speaker 3: were needed. So we didn't take anybody from areas where
- 5:43Speaker 3: we weren't able to respond in a timely manner if
- 5:45Speaker 3: something happened on those communities.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner, some of those figures, you know, they're quite
- 5:50Speaker 1: astronomical when you look at the impact that having that
- 5:53Speaker 1: surge of police into Alice Springs has had. I know
- 5:56Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of people listening this
- 5:58Speaker 1: morning thinking why didn't it happens sooner?
- 6:03Speaker 3: I think resourcing is always a balancing game, Katie. Of course,
- 6:08Speaker 3: the people of Elder Springs needed a circuit breaker. We
- 6:11Speaker 3: were always planning an operation for this time of the
- 6:13Speaker 3: year in Central Australia because historically this school holiday the
- 6:17Speaker 3: Christmas period we see an influx of people to Central
- 6:20Speaker 3: Australia from the outlying areas, so we were always planning it.
- 6:24Speaker 3: We just bought it on a little bit early because
- 6:25Speaker 3: of the really horrific crime rates that we were seeing occurring.
- 6:29Speaker 1: I know that we've heard this morning that one of
- 6:31Speaker 1: the popular local pubs, Montes, they're planning to close their doors,
- 6:34Speaker 1: telling the ABC that people don't feel safe going out
- 6:37Speaker 1: at night.
- 6:38Speaker 2: What is your response to that, Well, I think.
- 6:41Speaker 3: We've changed that perception and certainly that's what I've seen
- 6:45Speaker 3: in the last seventeen days since Drina has been operating,
- 6:48Speaker 3: in the feedback that we're getting and our girls and
- 6:50Speaker 3: girls on the street that it's a really positive engagement
- 6:54Speaker 3: having the police on the street, having our area of
- 6:57Speaker 3: operations in the Central Business district and people are feeling
- 7:00Speaker 3: safe and secure, and that's the feedback we're getting on
- 7:02Speaker 3: the ground from members of the public.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Katie, And do you think that this surge and also
- 7:06Speaker 1: those additional officers that are going to be permanently based
- 7:08Speaker 1: in Alice. Do you think that that's going to sort
- 7:10Speaker 1: of help some of the community members and also those
- 7:13Speaker 1: business owners to feel safer longer term?
- 7:17Speaker 3: I think it is. It's already shown that's happening, and
- 7:20Speaker 3: we're concentrating erifforts on keeping people safe and providing that
- 7:24Speaker 3: community reassurance and making sure that people are able to
- 7:27Speaker 3: go out and enjoy this beautiful town.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner are a question that's come through from one
- 7:32Speaker 1: of our listeners wondering why can't they get people before
- 7:35Speaker 1: that point of sale, you know, when you're talking about
- 7:38Speaker 1: that nearly nine hundred liters of alcohol. Is there a
- 7:41Speaker 1: way that you know that they can sort of be
- 7:42Speaker 1: stopped from purchasing before it gets to that point.
- 7:47Speaker 3: I think that's a really that's a really difficult question, Katie.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Alcohol is a legal product. The lifting of stronger futures
- 7:56Speaker 3: saw the alcohol become available to a whole different range
- 8:01Speaker 3: of people now, so there's no restrictions on the premises
- 8:04Speaker 3: in which you can buy alcohol from. In less the
- 8:08Speaker 3: communities opted in and down this way, we didn't see
- 8:11Speaker 3: a lot of people opting in in relation to the
- 8:13Speaker 3: access of our cohols. So it's not simply a matter
- 8:16Speaker 3: that we can just prevent somebody from buying what is
- 8:19Speaker 3: a legally available commodity.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Well Assistant Commissioner Regional and Remote Policing, Martin Dole, We
- 8:26Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. I appreciate you coming on and
- 8:28Speaker 1: having a chat with us this morning, and you know,
- 8:31Speaker 1: I think ahead of Christmas, particularly in light of what's
- 8:33Speaker 1: gone on in Queensland in recent days as well. A
- 8:36Speaker 1: big thank you to all of the Northern Territory Police
- 8:39Speaker 1: for the work that you do. I know that the
- 8:41Speaker 1: community appreciates it and I think that it's very much,
- 8:44Speaker 1: you know, something that we need to be a need
- 8:47Speaker 1: to be thanking you guys for for your hard work.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Katie, thank you very much
- 8:52Speaker 2: Thanks for your time this morning,