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John Gemberling Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself
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  Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,
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  Speaker 1: you're a presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,
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  Speaker 1: So how did you dare.
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  Speaker 2: To surbey me?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts, I'm pretcher, whine girl.
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  Speaker 3: I'm engaged. No, that's that's actually not true. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why I decided to say that. I'm sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm not engaged. I just I apologize. Actually, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why I said I'm engaged, but I'm not engaged.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not engaged to be married. Why did I say that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. We're here in the studio. The podcast
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  Speaker 3: is steamier than ever. What's going on in my life?
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  Speaker 3: I went the wrong direction for dinner, but I wanted
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  Speaker 3: a club sandwhich, so I showed up right as we
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  Speaker 3: were supposed to begin recording. So that's my fault. But
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  Speaker 3: I did have the club sandwich and a rushed diner dinner,
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  Speaker 3: so there's that. Last night, I tried to watch a
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  Speaker 3: documentary as a kind word, a documentary about Amelia Earhart.
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  Speaker 3: Turned it off. I don't know. I think that that's
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  Speaker 3: her private life. Wherever she went, that's none of my business.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm done enough. So that brings us to today.
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  Speaker 3: Patreon still exists patreon dot com. Slash I said, no gifts,
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of things, you know, the videos of the
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  Speaker 3: live shows, bonus episodes, you name it. Go over there.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is absolutely fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: I love this person. It's John Gimberlin. Guy said, no.
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  Speaker 2: Gift, Thank you for having me, so happy to have
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  Speaker 2: you here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here and I'm happy to have
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  Speaker 3: you here.
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  Speaker 2: Did you eat by yourself? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. How do you feel about eating alone?
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I like eating privately. I don't feel
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  Speaker 2: one way or the other about eating alone at restaurants.
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  Speaker 2: I think you went to a restaurant. Yes, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I like eating like alone in my house or in
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  Speaker 2: a hotel room unseen. I like to watch something.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of the opposite. I never eat at home,
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  Speaker 3: really never unless I eat it. I read at home,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't really eat meals. So I'm eating out
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  Speaker 3: all the time. And when my boyfriend's not in town,
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  Speaker 3: I just go out to eat and so and I read.
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  Speaker 3: I like to read while eating.
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  Speaker 2: So you sit in restaurants and you read, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it expensively?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to super expensive places. I mean
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  Speaker 3: the most expensive, like on a regular night would be
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  Speaker 3: Clark Street Diner, which, as far as diner prices go,
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  Speaker 3: is not low prices. But that's like the ceiling as
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  Speaker 3: far as a weak night dinner for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you eat there rather than take it home.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I hate to bring food home.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you want to like huddle in with whatever your
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  Speaker 2: nasty little food is and like watch a show on
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  Speaker 2: HBO or something and I just eat in the glow
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  Speaker 2: of your computer.
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  Speaker 3: I just like the food as soon as it comes
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  Speaker 3: from behind, the from the kitchen, from behind, from when
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised by I scream.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: I like to like especially with like a French fry.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of foods just don't travel well, and
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  Speaker 3: I want it to be as good as possible. And
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  Speaker 3: I like being out, like getting out of the house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No. I like the anonymity. When my family,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my wife cooks usually so, but if they're
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  Speaker 2: out of town, if I'm by myself, I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Order like, what are you getting?
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  Speaker 2: I'm better in recent years previously maybe Domino's Burger King,
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  Speaker 2: ordering Burger King potentially.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes see that's a line. I think that's too far.
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  Speaker 2: It's expensive to order burger.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, then you're like, oh my god, I just spent
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  Speaker 3: thirty dollars our Yeah, that to me, that math never
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  Speaker 3: adds up.
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  Speaker 2: I watch them come, I say, like, just leave it
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  Speaker 2: at the door, like, don't talk to me, don't see you.
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  Speaker 2: I watch them through the curtains. I whisper like, please leave,
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  Speaker 2: get out, go just go leave it, and then I
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  Speaker 2: wait until they've driven off, and then I come out
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  Speaker 2: and I take the bag. It's a whole like you know, oh,
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  Speaker 2: of course it feels very private covert, Yes, very private.
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  Speaker 3: Is the leaving it at the door? Did that start
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  Speaker 3: with COVID or was that an option pre COVID, that
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  Speaker 3: please leave it at the door.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was an option, but it was unorthodox.
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  Speaker 2: I think that felt COVID brought it into the mainstream.
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  Speaker 3: Right that then it became kind of just the status quo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You rarely see someone who's delivered something to your house, which,
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  Speaker 3: again that worries me. The food could be they put
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  Speaker 3: it there, then they don't text you until they've driven
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  Speaker 3: out of the neighborhood that I'm watching watch.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching them on the computer. I'm watching them on
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  Speaker 2: the map get closer, and then I'm watching the lights
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  Speaker 2: pull up, and then I'm watching. I'm watching. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care about the temperature of the food.
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  Speaker 3: I just know it all.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted private.
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  Speaker 3: That's your number one thing in food is privacy.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in a very small apartment in New
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  Speaker 2: York City, so I feel like anything that is my
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  Speaker 2: own little private space is I cherish right protect it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you said you have treats at home? What might that mean?
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  Speaker 3: I bake cookies? Oh yes, so I eat cookies at home. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: the one food can well, I guess I eat breakfast,
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  Speaker 3: but that's not really you know, I'm just eating a
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  Speaker 3: bar or something. It's not really a meal. But I
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  Speaker 3: bake cookies and eat them every night.
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  Speaker 2: Now you look in shape for someone who always either
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  Speaker 2: eats out or cookies.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I have a very controlled cookie diet. I only
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  Speaker 3: eat one cookie at night.
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  Speaker 2: Now how do you do that?
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  Speaker 3: And the listeners so mad, they're like, I can will
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  Speaker 3: he stop talking about cookies or do you often talk
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  Speaker 3: about cook but I like explaining it. I make a
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  Speaker 3: batch of dough at the beginning of the week, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and then I put it in the fridge, sure, and
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  Speaker 3: then just bake it off throughout the week. And then
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  Speaker 3: if I have at the end, I freeze it in balls.
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  Speaker 3: And then that's for panic times when I don't have
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  Speaker 3: another treat ready, I can just dip into the freezer.
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  Speaker 3: So you eat one cookie a day, a night, they're
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  Speaker 3: exclusively at night.
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  Speaker 2: But you're preheating. You're putting it in what like twelve
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  Speaker 2: minutes or something, just one cookie.
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  Speaker 3: There, fourteen to fifteen minutes. Yes, if my boyfriend's in town,
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  Speaker 3: well actually we won't even get into him not eating
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  Speaker 3: cookies anymore. And people are looking at this and they're
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  Speaker 3: saying the environmental impact.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a gas oven?
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  Speaker 3: Or it is a gas oven? Right, But people are
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  Speaker 3: heating up there oven for other things.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, So I have an electric and induction stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, So I don't know what my footprint is
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  Speaker 3: as far as using the oven every night to make
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  Speaker 3: a cookie, but not terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what are we preheating at three point fifty Okay?
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  Speaker 2: What does it take ten minutes to get there.
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  Speaker 3: That takes about ten minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Ten minutes. Nothing's in the oven, just burning bird.
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  Speaker 3: You can't blame me for that. Everybody has to do
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  Speaker 3: the pre heat. So that's a that's a free attack
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  Speaker 3: on the earth.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough. But some people are pre heating for like
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  Speaker 2: a whole. For instance, my wife made a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: chicken and that fed three people tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's not my problem.
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  Speaker 2: And she to preheat it. She just puts it in
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  Speaker 2: waits till it's warm. She doesn't care.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, the chicken's already cooked. She's just warming it up.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, she doesn't care with chicken. She'll just throw
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  Speaker 2: it in and leave it until it looks good to her.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that works for chicken, right.
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  Speaker 2: Because you just goods will preheat baked like uh like,
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  Speaker 2: if we're making cookies, well we'll preheat. I'm not saying we.
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  Speaker 3: Never, Oh you will, Okay. I thought you were telling
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  Speaker 3: me throw the cookie in before it's heated.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was going to say, John, No, no,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. That would be.
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  Speaker 3: I've been making cookies a long time and I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what even know what to say at this point,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a climate criminal.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'm a little late to the party,
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  Speaker 2: but I agree that sounds like a big waste and
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  Speaker 2: a shame.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite treat?
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  Speaker 2: I like overeating. My wife is very into like looking
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  Speaker 2: into Andrea. I'll just call her Andrea. From here on,
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying my wife and over again. Andrew's into like
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  Speaker 2: the best place, like looking up what's the best, what's recommended,
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  Speaker 2: what has a picture on Instagram and is highly rated.
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  Speaker 2: I have a hard time sitting down and eating something
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  Speaker 2: that I have an expectation about from something out like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is supposed to be the best, right, And the
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  Speaker 2: whole time I'm not. I'm going through the process of
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  Speaker 2: being like, is this the best? Is this just okay?
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  Speaker 2: I would rather just eat something and have a large
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  Speaker 2: quantity of it and discover that I like it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm somewhere in between. I would say I feel like
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  Speaker 3: having too many expectations. It could be an evening running experience. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it feels almost impossible to go to a restaurant
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  Speaker 3: without some prior knowledge. Now. I remember, like as a kid,
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  Speaker 3: my parents would see a new restaurant and like, let's
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  Speaker 3: go try it knowing no information about it. But now
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  Speaker 3: I go in with any place with some expectation. But
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  Speaker 3: I also don't really need the best of anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like you walk down the street, you're hungry,
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  Speaker 2: you go into a place, you go, oh, this was good.
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  Speaker 2: You know, somebody brings home at half a sandwich from
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  Speaker 2: somewhere that you weren't expecting. That's the best.
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  Speaker 3: My mark of quality is if I've just cleared the
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  Speaker 3: entire plate. Yeah, that's really the only thing. I leave
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  Speaker 3: feeling borderline sick. And that's fine. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 3: a dinner experience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I usually clear the plate regardless.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, why am I there? Otherwise? I don't like taking
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  Speaker 3: food home in a box, because again.
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  Speaker 2: You don't like food in your house.
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  Speaker 3: It's called take thie food home. Okay, take like a
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  Speaker 3: curry home. Okay, I'll take fried chicken home.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes pizza, those are all can be reheated pretty well,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, Okay, I'd love to put pizza in
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  Speaker 3: a waffle iron.
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  Speaker 2: Do you preheat before the pizza?
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  Speaker 3: You preheat a waffle iron? I guess you do if
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  Speaker 3: you wait till the beeps. Yeah, yeah, you gotta wait
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  Speaker 3: for it to beep. You gotta have it sizzling hot.
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  Speaker 2: Preheat pizza in a waffle iron.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I preheat the waffle iron, then I put the pizza.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean, but you heat it in the waff Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of this? You fold the pizza
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  Speaker 3: in half and put it in the waffle iron, and
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  Speaker 3: then it creates like a sandwich. It's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: You fold it in half.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's a little bit of folding, so
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  Speaker 3: just to kind of to keep the cheese intil.
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  Speaker 2: The tapered part up to the crust, or you fold it.
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  Speaker 3: So that it's Oh, I usually do you do it
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  Speaker 3: like a paper airplay, right, because if you do it longwise,
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  Speaker 3: it's too frequently too big for the waffle iron. Waffle
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  Speaker 3: iron is you know that big and then it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be sticking out of it.
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  Speaker 2: You have a small do you have a huge one?
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  Speaker 2: I have a big waffle iron sized waffle iron.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what a regular size waffle iron is.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, oh, interesting one and a half pieces of pizza.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you fold it somehow so the cheese is not
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  Speaker 3: exposed anymore. Put it in there for a few minutes.
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  Speaker 3: It's easily the best way to reheat pizza. You'll never
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  Speaker 3: look back.
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  Speaker 2: Is this something I should know about? You're saying, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you've never heard of this.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's a pretty it's for me within the last
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  Speaker 3: five years. It was actually I learned about it during
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  Speaker 3: the pandemic. I think because we would have, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Order a pizza to your house during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, Okay, it's not trying to poke holes in
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  Speaker 3: my life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just learning. I'm just trying to keep up,
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  Speaker 2: just trying to understand illogically.
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  Speaker 3: I think I learned about it then and now I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to spread the word because you know, reheating in
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  Speaker 3: the microwave pizza doesn't work for me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even have a microwave.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have a microwave?
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  Speaker 2: No why I never had one growing up. Andrea, I
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  Speaker 2: guess she had one, but we just don't care about it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll heat stuff in the oven or like. It just
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  Speaker 2: it's always kind of disgusting. It's always like wet, Like
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  Speaker 2: you put something in the microwave and it comes out
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  Speaker 2: way too hot and.
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  Speaker 3: Wet, yes, sizzling hot and damp. No, I only use
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  Speaker 3: it like for very specific things like if I need
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  Speaker 3: to melt an ingredient or you know, if I get
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  Speaker 3: a Trader joe'se something or other that needs to be
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  Speaker 3: heated up. But otherwise, yeah, Like I have no use
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  Speaker 3: for a microfof which is annoying because you have this
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  Speaker 3: huge object in your kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have the space for it.
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  Speaker 3: You really don't use that often. Yeah, but I do
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  Speaker 3: feel like if I didn't have it, there would be
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  Speaker 3: moments where I'd be really frustrated and needing to melt
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  Speaker 3: butter or something.
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  Speaker 2: Butter on the stovetop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that takes a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Well, doesn't take that long.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take induction, okay, mister induction. Occasionally I'll brown butter
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  Speaker 3: on the stovetop, which is deeply stressful. Have you ever
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  Speaker 3: brown butter?
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  Speaker 2: Not in the conventional way that you mean?
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: John? Moving on, As much as I'd like to dive
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: into how you brown butter, I feel like there was
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  Speaker 3: something else we should talk about. I was excited to
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: have you here on the podcast today.
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  Speaker 2: Why.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought John's wonderful. Everyone seems to love John.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine not having a good Time with John.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: The podcast is called I said no Gifts and I so,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I was a little surprised when you walked into the
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: studio holding an object that, from here looks like a gift.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it is a gift and it's wrapped in
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  Speaker 2: wrapping paper.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it says ho on it.
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  Speaker 2: It's Christmas paper, but.
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  Speaker 3: Really unconventional Christmas paper. It's like party like club colors.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're used to a more dour, muted Christmas paper.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this is more of a New Year's Eve color palette.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a happy festive Miami Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Because it says ho all over it. It almost kind
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  Speaker 3: of the word ho takes on. It's an interesting type
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  Speaker 3: of paper to look at.
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  Speaker 2: I would say it's primarily wrapping paper that you would
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  Speaker 2: use in a brothel.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Well, should I open it here on the podcast?
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  Speaker 2: Would you like to?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I brought a gift. It just you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was raised with propriety and.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, oh, it's like two sided wrapping paper.
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  Speaker 2: It is itself, I say from Michael's Okay, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: what what is this? Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: For the listener, I'll try to describe. It's a painting
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  Speaker 3: of a man topless man, kind of a Poseidon type character,
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  Speaker 3: but with a short red hair, and he's coming out
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  Speaker 3: of the ocean. Behind him, are I would say, other gods,
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  Speaker 3: other Greek gods.
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  Speaker 2: Potentially it's I don't know there either. Clouds are carved
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  Speaker 2: from st Rock of the Island behind right.
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  Speaker 3: And then on the back it says for my favorite
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  Speaker 3: action figure Avatar John Merry Christmas two thousand and two,
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  Speaker 3: Love daw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and my father painted that.
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  Speaker 3: What does this say here?
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  Speaker 2: That says so my father, whose name is Stephen Gimberling.
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  Speaker 2: But so my father painted this. That's me, that's you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you don't recognize me, I guess without the beard.
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  Speaker 3: It's really beautifully painted.
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  Speaker 2: My father's an artist, okay, and he has given me
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that he's made over the years, ceramics, paintings, drawings,
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  Speaker 2: print outs like shadow solar art and stuff. So I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: have a lot of it, yes, and I thought maybe
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  Speaker 2: you would like some of it. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: It's really you, it's really me, and he calls you
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  Speaker 3: his favorite action figure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that was in reference to this
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  Speaker 2: was in two thousand and two for Christmas. So it
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  Speaker 2: is a regift. Okay, this is a that makes it better?
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  Speaker 2: It does, but I have had it for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: So he took a name. His last name's Gimberling, but
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: he took the name Tenike because he likes Dutch stuff.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: That's like an art name, I guess.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't like his name. He wanted a new name.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: He didn't like his family, so he renamed himself and
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: he likes the Dutch. And so this is a te
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: that is made into an E to stand for Tenike. Okay, okay,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and then this is becket, which is Latin just for
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: like made this.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Oh fascinating. Yeah, that's really like a lore he's created
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: for himself.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and yeah this is some kind of poseidony.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I'm holding a staff with a serpent and the waves
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: are licking against my chest.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And you're looking very sexy.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, And my dad loves rendering me. There's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of sculptures of me as a cherub, wow baby,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: or like a little like font leroy lord, God, that's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: my father there.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, like among the carved out or the clouds
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: or what have you. Behind him. You yeah, And then
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: do you know who the rest of these people are?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I think they would probably be some kind of mythical
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: or biblical people, but I don't know. You'll have to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: There seems to be a headless woman with bare breasts
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: fondling a some kind of bird, get a puffy bird
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Here it looks almost like a lion. Maybe it looks
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: like it's like, could be a paw is on her.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: It looks like it's lunging at this headless woman. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and I mean, there's so much going on here. Did
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: you like growing up? Was he just painting you the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: How did you feel about your dad painting you all
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the time or creating different versions of you?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And art ultimately a little overborn? I think when I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: was young I liked it and took it for granted,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and then later I was like, God, this is a lot, right,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: because you start going like because this was along with
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: like I would overhear him telling people how like perfect
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I was, how I never broke anything or misbehaved, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: so I felt like there was this like image I
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: guess to live up to, right, But then I felt like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I had to spend some time parsing out
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: who I felt I was versus who he felt I was.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: What a fascinating thing to have to figure out. That's
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, that's is He's still creating art of you. Yes,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And does he send it?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Do you collect to send your heads? I have a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: lot of it, Okay, he sends it. There was one
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: he has a carve. I can't I can't even remember
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: between the carvings the ceramics. You know, I had to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: say no more ceramics at a certain point.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a world object.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd be broken and crumbled by Andrea and I.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'd like that it's gone from my wife to Andrea,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to my Andrea.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: My Andrea, my children, a lot of Greek. You know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: her breasts will be out, well, the children will be
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: satyrs children and or like in a hot air balloon
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and he'll be in a paddle boat. It's you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a large volume of work.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Right, And are you hanging it up around the house?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Is it being stored somewhere?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It's stored. Like I said, we grew up. I grew
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: up in a tiny little apartment that was like filled
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: with right, this stuff at a certain point, I was like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: am I hanging this just because it's here? Or because
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I like it and would want to hang it? So
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: then I'm not saying I don't like it, But again
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it ended up feeling like an obligation rather than a
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: pleasant I was like, well, I want to hang things
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that I choke shooes.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Right, you've select rather than right, Yeah, because there's only
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: so much room on the walls.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: What do your kids think about when they get a
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: painting of themselves as half goat or whatever?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Uh, they's somewhat numb to it at this point.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: How much art is he sending?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot, and it's all accompanied
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: by like long cursive you know, descriptions of what he's
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: sent and other things he intends to send, and it's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: kind of hard to read, and it's just you know it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It's nice, but it also kind of feels like homework.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, it becomes a little bit of a
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: chore to collect objects and at some point you run
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: out of space. And this is really something you can't
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Well you could give them away on every podcast you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: go to, but I could. It's something that just has
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: to stay at your house.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean I've thrown some of it away
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: over the years, but I feel bad.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine the guilt. You should feel very guilty.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And also he wants to run down like he'll he'll
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: be like did the thing arrive?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Feedback?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He wants feedback, he wants like an itemized like would
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you think of this? Did you notice this? What'd you
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: think of this? So I have to For many years
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, God, I really have to study this,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and now I just go, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I liked it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: That's so much work.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of work.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Do you have siblings?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: No?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, so all the attention is being laser focused on you.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I was the repository for everything.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Was he were you his number one muse.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I mean he would paint himself a lot, and my mother,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: basically everybody that he knew and loved would would go in.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: But it's like he's constantly generating, right something, cutouts, cutting
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: things out. I mean, it's all manner of art and craft.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Does he do it professionally?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Not really? I mean he has and he wants too,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: but he's you know, he's a little bit of a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: starving artist.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Sure, are you much of an artist at all? Can
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: you paint or anything?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: No? I mean I like to do music and write
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and act and sure obviously, but I don't really draw
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: or paint. I used to like to draw a little,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I kind of feel like I
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: have a friend whose father was a musician, and he
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: almost like you kind of get a blockage there, like
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: he didn't it wasn't interested in music because of that, right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: So like I liked drawing, but I don't know, it
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: felt like not my area, right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like as a child of an artist or something,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: it feels very on or off. It doesn't feel like
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of middle ground to just kind of dabble. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: like you either love it or you kind of almost
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: rebel against it or something.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Also, I saw him generally so much stuff and then
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it just ended up in a pile of stuff.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Being sent to an ungrateful song.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, And so I would I knew how much
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I was glazing overlooking at it didn't feel like a
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: path to the kind of recognition that I was looking
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: for my creativity.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: That's understandable, That's totally understandable. Was your mom and artist.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: No, No, she was a teacher. Okay, what sort of
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: teacher she taught? Well, they met actually at the Lexington
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: School for the Deaf in the wow seventies.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: That's incredible. I didn't realize there was this thing where
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you were kind of assigned to a job.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: If you were objecting, you had to do a service. Oh.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: He like officially was like, I don't want to go
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: to war. He had to present to a tribunal or something,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and then they assigned him a duty.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Interesting, And your mom just wanted to teach there.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I guess she wanted to teach. Yeah. Ultimately she ended
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: up teaching at a nursery school, and then she became
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the director of the nursery school. Okay, and I attended
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the nursery Oh, teacher's bet.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I would sneak off and go to her office for hugs.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: That's so sweet, that's very cute. Oh, that's like every
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: parent's stream to be the head of the school, I think,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: or maybe not. I'm not a parent, but the more
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I hear from friends and family, I'm like, oh, some
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: time apart is nice.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't want to be the head of my
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: children's school.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: This is strange because I just got this painting pretty recently.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Oh weather redheaded person? Nice is that nobody knows. Michael
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yury brought that he got it in Palm Springs, and
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: it's bigger painting than it's starting to feel like I'm
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I mean because this painting also has red hair. It's
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: like I'm starting to collect just paintings at myself.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Felt like a good idea to bring a painting, but.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: It really blew up in your face. Yeah, we'll have
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to throw this one away. No, I think this is fantastic.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: It's very very of the moment with the Odyssey. People
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: are people are out there watching the Odyssey.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, did you see this movie? I did see
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the audist.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: What did you think of it?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I liked it, I thought, I mean, I like the
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: story of the Odyssey. It's weird calling it a book, right,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And I felt like there were some missed opportunities. Sure,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I felt like they say, oh ten years have past,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: all this time is passing, But I didn't really never
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: feel like a yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: It feels like I could have been a week.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly with the like suitors back in Ithaca. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: feel like the whole impact of that storyline is just
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: how long they're keeping the suitors at bay. And this
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: just felt like one dinner party right wild night.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a very good point. I felt almost
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: no passage of time.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: My hope for Christopher Nolan is that one day he
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: could just tell a story in sequence from beginning no, no, no, no,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and that would be you go, here's the beginning of
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the story, and then we are with the characters throughout
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the story.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Beginning and end. Yeah, that would be nice.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen a lot of his most recent never
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: saw Dunkirk. If I don't see one of his movies
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: in a theater, I'm like, I'm just not I'll never
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: see that movie. Now, why because you want them to?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're spectacles, But why why are they spectacles?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Why do we all of a sudden go like, oh,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: did you see it? In seventy millimeters? You see it?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I'm actually, if it's a good movie, you can watch
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: it on your phone, you can watch it wherever. Like
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: if I'm buying like a TV or a monitor or something,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going like, oh, what's the refresh rate, what's the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: aspect rate? You know, what's the what's the usable screen area,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: what's the you know, resolution and all that. Now I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: have to worry about that at the theater, like, what
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: what's the refresher rate in the theater that I'm seeing
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the movie putting that work in. I'm just going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the theater. You take care of it. I'm at the theater,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I sit down, you show me the movie.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I do hate to get into the app or whatever.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: And they are nine different types of theaters. I could
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: watch the movie, you.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Got the laser, you got the extra, the imax, the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: reclining seats.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: For me, they're almost all the same experience.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And people go, oh, the you gotta see an imax
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: because it cuts off you know, if you see it
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: the other way, it cuts it off, cuts off the
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: top and bottom or whatever. I go, why does it
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: do that? Oh because the imax is square? Yeah, well
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: why is it square? Movies are sixteen by nine rectangle
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: with the Imax.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: If they wanted a bigger thing, well, I mean, I
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: guess they just wanted a taller picture.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't understand. I guess I don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: think anybody knows. I think somebody goes, oh, you gotta
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: see it. In Imax and they go, oh, I got
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: It's like with the Instagram restaurants that you got to
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: try this burrito. It's like just because somebody says you
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: gotta see it like this.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: The thing with any type of screen, my I adjust
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: to whatever it is within like two minutes. Yeah, then
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: it's just the same experience. Yeah, except for I was
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: on at third row at Imax for the Odyssey, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: you never adjust to being on the third row.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: You're just was it pleasant?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: It was totally pleasant, absolute picnic. My body has never
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: felt better leaving a theater. Just I guess the reason
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I like a Christopher Nolan movie. Maybe this just speaks
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to and God bless. Maybe his movies don't aren't that
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: compelling to me. And so unless I'm trapped in a
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: movie theater at home half an hour in, I'm gonna
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: be like, where are we in the timeline? Why do
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I care? I'm moving on? Whereas a lot of movies
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I'm happy to watch them home.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, people were going, oh, Oppenheimer, you got to
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: see it in Okay? No, why they're sitting in an.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Office in a very small hour office.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Small side boardroom. You gotta see because you cut off.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You can't see their legs under the table. If you
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: don't see it in imax, they're cut off. You gotta
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: see the shoes. You can look from his shoes to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the top of his head.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I mean in that one we have kind of a
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: famous explosion. Yes, but that's a very small part of
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the movie. The rest of it is very much just
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: like a workplace comedy. Yeah, it's like who cares. I mean,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: at least with the Odyssey, it's like, oh, this is
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: all going to be some sort of visual something or eye.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: But again, three minutes in, you're just like I'm watching
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a movie. It's on a movie screen.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I like the the you know, the special effect. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: like the Cyclops, and I love the Cyclops and stuff.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: There were like little episodes within it that I would
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: love to see again, but I never need to see
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: the whole thing, right, I can, right, The Cyclops is
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: very actually kind of spooky. Yeah, but overall on once
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: it was over, it's like, Okay, I'll go home and
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: nothing has changed in my life. Yes, except I can
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: say I saw the movie now, which I guess is
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: part of it, just being everyone else has seen it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: He did the Goya painting inspiration for the Cyclops. Oh,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, son, Oh, interesting a reference to that, so we
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: ripped it off.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It's like, if you're do in the Cyclops, you gotta
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: do the Goya paint.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Right because it's very spooky painting, interesting.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Whatever I mean, it would have been. He would have
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: been remiss if he didn't.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Do the Goy I would have called him out.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I feel very lucky that, like audio wise, visual wise,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I can't notice much of a difference in anything, because
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: there are people who are like who have to have
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: such crystal clear audio or like such perfect picture.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I can do you know, fairly middle ground stuff, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I'm happy with it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You're saying you could watch a movie with poor audio.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Like fine audio some people you know to be an
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: audio snob. Seems like hell to me.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing with the IMAX. The camera
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: is so loud that they have to like.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: They have to go, they have to do all the
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: stuff they put it in a case or something.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: They have to put in a case. They have to
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: like denoise the audio or like or I know, I've
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: never cared about Imax.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: You're taking a stand. I don't think anybody cares about
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: IMAX as much as they want you to believe. Yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: and I think people should go to movies, of course.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I think going to the movie theater is great and
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: wonderful and it's a struggling business. So but uh, I
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: don't think it makes that much of a difference for
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: anyone when they're watching an IMAX movie.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it would.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I really don't. The things that people are apparently noticing
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: are things that just absolutely go over my head or
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have even occurred to see in the movie, Like
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: what the bottom on the top of the screen. Yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: there's only so much. I don't want to be looking
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: around to the screen while watching the movie. I want
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: to just watch the movie.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: People are really like dogs with social media and all
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: this time. I feel like it's just like if they
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: get told that they're missing something, they like start getting frantic,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: like they would know, you know, a composition of a
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: shot in a thing like like you wouldn't not like
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: anybody would fucking notice the like you know, no bottom
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: of a screen, like oh you know, but did I miss?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Did I miss the bottom of Telemachus's knees? Like it's fine.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Who cares.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: If somebody hadn't said before, you've never would have even
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: thought of it. That's the world for living in.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: It's very like I don't want to miss anything. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: then but we make the stuff that we make is
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: designed to make people feel like they can't miss.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: It, right, well, and when you make something, you don't
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: want anybody to miss any part of it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't want them to be excited about
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it simply on the grounds that they have a false
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: sense of exclusivity in seeing it a certain.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Way, creating their little club because they noticed something. Yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: that's such irritating behavior. And it's a way to kind
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: of just ruin things for yourself. Yeah, looking for every
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: single thing and essentially just disassembling it in order to
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: tell people you noticed something.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Well, there's no solution. It's I mean, the genies out
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: of the bottle and we're all just trapped in the system.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't know what to say.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Ah, I don't know. I think we can find our
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: way out of the system. Well, I think time, Okay,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I think time will tell you know. I think you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: make movies in entertainment a certain way for a long
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: time and then people get bored of it, and then
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you make it a different way, and right, you know, right.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: You just have to sit through it and wait for
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: it either totally collapse or for people to get bored. Yeah,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: well I've got this beautiful little painting. Now I think
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: we'll we'll have to find a place to keep it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, So is this your dedicated
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: recording room? Yes? So nobody else comes in here?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: No other podcasts do come through here?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: And is this stuff here when they know?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: The wonderful crew sets it up when I'm here?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: So what happens with all these gifts when you're not here?
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I forget about them?
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: But where do they go?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I don't want to know. They go in some sort
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: of case and vanish from my life. Now?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Is this going to go in your garage? Or is
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: this this is going to stay in the studio? Yes,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: this is a temporary place you've leaned it for now clearly.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Well this feels this could be right?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I yeah, but anybody move you moved? Yeah, that's not
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: You're going to have to make some space.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Probably either going to go on this shelf behind you here?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Where would.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You like it to be I think maybe just right
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: where that painting is, maybe just right in front of it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a good featured spot.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: What would be your number two choice?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe right over there in front of those pictures, in
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: front of that stuff.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: This could use a refresh, I think so. So we
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: might move some of this around and this will be
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the new part of the studio.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, this I don't like just because I can't see
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: That's been kind of looming behind you this whole time.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: What's the pooh?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Is?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Through red nick po.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: That Rob Hubel brought that And it's a toilet plunger
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: that shoots or make a gun noise. That cool shaped
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: like a rifle. Yeah, it's a cool thing to happen
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: any home.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I snaked at my toilet today, Oh you did. I
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: bought a snake a couple months.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Ago because the pipes were clogged up.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, because the toilet was clogged and it was so
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: persistent a plunger wouldn't work.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's a real toilet issue.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: And we thought, should we call a plumber? They're going
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: to charge us one hundreds of dollars to snake it?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Is it possible that I could just buy my own snake.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: You you can buy a snake.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Cost this one was like sixty bucks.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, so now you can get into like recreational snaking.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Snake toilet's all over the globe. Was it disgusting snaking it?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Uh? Today it wasn't. The This is the second time
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I've used it. The first time it was more disgusting
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: because it was a more feces based flag clog. And
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: this clog was I put a like a like a
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: bleach tablet in the toilet, and but it was it
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: didn't break, it was solid. It kind of got stuck
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: in there. And then I told people in my family, Hey,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: don't use the toilet until this thing dissolved. One member
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: of my family did pretty quickly was ship into the
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: toilet and then put paper in there. So then it
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: needed to be oh god.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Being a parent, fascinating experience. Well now you have the snake.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I have the snake, but you gotta you know, it's gross.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: And where do you keep the snake afterwards?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: In the shed? Okay?
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: That makes it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I spray it with the hose dry sitting there and
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: then I bag and put it in that. But it's heavy.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: But it's heavy.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like a thing and inside is like
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a coil, like a almost like a tight spring kind
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: of thing with a little bulb end and you can
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you like push down on the handle and it extends
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: into the pipe and it has a crank where you
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: go right to break stuff drill into the matter there.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like most people should own a snake
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: at some point.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: They should. It was something that I felt like you
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: just couldn't own unless you were like a bonded plumber
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: or something. But you can.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Interesting, where did you order it from?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Amazon?
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Amazon sell snakes? Yeah? Oh my god.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Amazon's great. They'll sell you anything. They'll get it
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: there quickly.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: And I have no complaints about the company whatsoever. I'm
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: strictly pro. I think we should play a game. Okay,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Six.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: some game pieces. You can recommend or promote or do
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: whatever you want with the microphone for a minute.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm on Twitter at gimber licking at gimber sucking
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: on Instagram, but I never post, but I will collaborate.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I'll promote, collaborate, but my posts otherwise aren't interesting or frequent.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I'm in a movie called All That She Wants that's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: premiering at the Toronto International Film Festival in September, so
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: go to Toronto and check that out. I do voices in
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the show Crepopolis and Mating Season, so you should watch those,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: but look up the ones that I'm in because those
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: are the ones that I get residuals for. Let's see,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I wrote a movie with my wife Andrea that we're
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: trying to make, but we don't have financing or anything.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: So when we make that, I encourage you to come
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: see it because it's really funny. I just got AT
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and T fiber and it was it's this.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Has been sneak at and T commercial the entire time.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: You're just biting your time.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Let me taste of it. It's the same speed one
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: gigabit as the spectrum spectrum had edged up to one
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one dollars of Oh my god, these
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: guys AT and T. You're charging me thirty WHOA spectrum
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: was coaxial. This is fiber. This is fiber optic speed
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: a light.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Thirty bucks a month.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: My download speed didn't improve much, but my upload speed
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: went through the roof.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: That my upload speeds the problem.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: What's your upload speed currently?
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Bad? Everything takes forever.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I was at forty or so megabits per second. Now
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I'm up to two three hundred.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Wow, thank you at and T.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Company, that's uh, we're both making a lot of money
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: from they're writing a check now.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I don't even care. I mean they're they're they'll give
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: me such.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: A keep your eye on the bill. Yeah, they'll sneak
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: it up. That's what's happened to me in Spectrum.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: They said it might go up in a year, but
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I should call them and insist and they'll put it back.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: The fact that, like the people working in the company
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: are like, we're going to try to rip you off.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Call us and we won't rip you off. It's so crazy.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: It's the new customer service is the employee protects you
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: from the company.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: It does feel like customer service. People now are like, yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: I hate being here and I hate the company. Here's
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: what you need to do.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think they're allowed a certain amount of
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: leeway or do they just take liberties?
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I wonder if it's I think
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: it's leeway. I think these companies are also like, well,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: we need people to work here. But it does feel
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: like a lot of customer service people are much more
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: on my side at this point because everyone's just like, well,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: things are just so awful. I don't want you to
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: get ripped off either here, so let me keep you
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: from being cheated by AT and T.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: And that's nice. And there's a new kind of egalitarian
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: community forming.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's really uniting us in an interesting way. Okay,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: we're going to play two games. This first one is
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a little faster. It's called invite list. I'm going to
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: start naming celebrities. You're going to say invited or not invited.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Once we get to ten, that's your party. You can
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: say why why not?
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: You don't have to I'm the eleventh, you're the eleventh.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, you're the host. Does that make perfect sense?
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: It does?
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, great, John Travolta.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Mark, he seems cool.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Martin Lawrence, why would I not.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Have any of these people at the party? They always
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: sound great? But I don't know how many? How many
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: are you gonna list? Hundreds?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: It's up to you. Once you get to ten.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Martin Lawrence. No, I think his best days are behind him.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Julie Chen Moonvez is that she's.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Less Moonvez's well, she's a former news anchor.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I think host a big brother less moon Vezu's wife.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't know her. Mike Myers, the Murderer or.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: The a random list of names, and I saw that.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I trulate. The first person that popped into my mind
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: was the murderer.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, then the murder.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go with the murderer. Do you want Mike
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Myers the Murderer?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Keanu Reeves, Yeah, he seems great.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: He gets up on the subway. They always want to
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: show you the video of when he like, lets somebody
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: else sit down on the subway.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: What if that's the only nice thing he's ever done?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: He's don't you feel like there are certain celebrities that
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: are promotionally nice guy It's like their thing is.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Like rye, right, yeah, you hope that, you know, you
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: hope Keanu is a nice guy. But it might all
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: just be for shure. Why is he on the subway?
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: That's my first question.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Because he's so humble, Because he's a humble.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: It's all very suspicious. Because the moment, I didn't need
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: to be on the subway anymore. I'm not going to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: be on the subway anymore.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: But if you were a celebrity and anything you did
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: out in public, you noticed, it's so easy to do
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: nice things. It's so easy to just walk into the
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: subway and know that somebody's going to film you and
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: be like, hey.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: He's on the subway doing kind of bare minimum nice things,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: just having manners.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think celebrities get too much credit for
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: being nice because.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: It's easy, it's extremely that's what you should do.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: But also you know you're going to get recognition for it,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: especially because you're a celebrity. All right, so we uh
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I'll take him.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Keanu's coming, Michael Caine.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Michael Caine, Now is he still alive?
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: See? And this is the thing with random list of
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: celebrities again, I'm like, we get into some of these
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: people where we think, is that person alive?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I like Michael Cain, but I think he would just
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: be sitting there. I don't think he would be so active.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I mean we did just kind of question whether or
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: not even alive. So maybe leave him at home. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: don't think I'll take him, okay. Naomi Campbell.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Naomi Campbell.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Now she's kind of mostly famous at this point for
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: throwing things at people.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Right, I don't think she doesn't seem that. I don't.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I would talk to her about.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Helena Bonham Carter.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, she's kooky, very kooky. Yeah, I like her.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Millie Bobby Brown.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think I would have a great conversation
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: with her.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Taboo from the Black Eyed Peas. He's the third Black
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Eyed Pea. That's not Fergie or will I.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Am, No, no, no, enough about Taboo. Also not you
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: know their music was you know, I wasn't.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: It wasn't your favorite.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I don't. It's not the kind of party I want
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to have.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Lena Dunham.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: No, I feel like I know I get.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: It right, right. Chip Gaines, you know who this is?
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: She had a homer modeling show with his wife called
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the name. They were doing it in Waco, Texas.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Is he like a Sico or a like a loser? Okay? No,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Los Garth, you could have been a huge.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Oh that was Chris Kane. Chris interesting. Every party he rocks. Okay,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Now we've got Joanna Gaines. This is the wife of
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: the person you just didn't invite, so no.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take herr Yeah, the marriage is probably on
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: the rocks.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Okay. Earl Sweatshirt, who's that? He's the rapper like he
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: was originally part of like with Tyler the Creator and
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Frank Ocean. Very interesting rapper, good.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Great strap wrapper, great rapper.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: But you don't know him. No, don't invite him.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: No.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos, Yeah, okay, I'll take him.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I want to go to space.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: People do anything to get to space.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to do space. I feel like he
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: would like give me free prime.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Too, Right, buying this toilet snake was your first step
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: to getting too space?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Jet Lee jet Lee, Yeah, because he could. Probably you'd
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: probably do some tricks and stuff. Right, he'll jump off
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the wall, and I don't want to mess up my house.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Is the party at my house up to you? No,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I want the party at like indoor like parkour places.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Then Jetley can.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: A trampoline park.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, perfect. Candice Bergen, Oh yeah, I used to
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: love Murphy Brown. I watch Murphy Brown with my mom
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: and dad. We all love Murphy Brown. She's great, She's great.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: She's the daughter of Edgar Bergen who had it was
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: a ventriloquist. Charlie McCarthy puppet wow, you know the classic
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: like puppet looking.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Right right, kind of spooky one.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: She played Morgan Lefe and she did King Arthur movie
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I love Candace ang Lee and Okay, I don't want
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: to artful director. Okay, Nicki minaj.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: No.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Courtney Kardashian, she's she's the like, don't ask me. She's
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: the taller, she's the oldest, tallest one.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I take all right, that's nine.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's nine. You've got one more. Eddie Murphy.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Who's after Eddie Murphy?
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: The big question?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love Eddie Murphy, but no, no, I
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: want to see I want to hear it. I don't
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Harley Ray Jepson, Warren Buffett, No, Freddie Highmore.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Who's that?
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Freddy high Moore is the Good Doctor? What the doctor?
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: That was several seasons on ABC. I don't know. Don't
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: ask me any more information than that. He's kind of
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: a British actor. I have no other information for you.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Is that like The Good Wife? Is it related to that?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was in the same good universe. Okay,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Brian Adams No, No, Ronda Rousey No, is that how
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: you pronounced her last name?
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Bree Larsen, Rose McGowan, No, Alyssa Milano. No, Christine Baranski.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Christine Baranski is in the movie that I that's going
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to the Toronto filming. Wonderful. She's great, But so I
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: have hung out with her, so I want to keep going.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I would invite her, but I want to keep going, right.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to insult her, but I want to
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: keep going.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Jody Foster.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm just curious about who's next?
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Sorry? Now four hours?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: How long is this list?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: It's endless, so long. I've been typing in celebrity names
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: for a very long time.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: At this point years will you never say Jody Foster again?
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Future I'll cut this and drop it to the bottom
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: of the list. Probably years from now Jody Foster will
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: pop back out.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, how long do you plan to be doing this
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: podcast the.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Rest of my life? Okay, as long as they'll let me.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: As long as people are like you know, are like
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: actively revolting against the podcast, I'll keep doing That's great.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, Who's next? Who else?
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Lana del Rey No, no, Roseanne Barr.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: The you've decided to ruin the party.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I want to see if she still has corn road
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: she had.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Is that a recent thing?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: No, there was maybe like ten or twenty years ago
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: where she was doing. She was doing like kind of
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: like a ska reggae kind of thing.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Roseanne Bar remember when.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: She was like she sang the national anthem at a
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: baseball game and it was funny how bad a singer
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: she was. And then she was doing kind of like
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: a bad singing.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: I thought you were mixing her up with Gwen Stefani. No,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: she kind of had her own Gwen Stefani moment. Yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I wonder if she had Harra Juku girls. Interesting. Well,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: that's a great party. I think that's gonna be the
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: time of your life. So it's oh yeah, Elis, will
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: you read that list back to us?
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Of course, John's party includes John Travolta, Michael Mike Myers,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Janny Reeves, Helena Bottom, Carter, Joanna Games, Jeff.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Bezons this is a suicide cult.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Jently, Candice Bergen, Courtney Kardashian, and Roseanne Bar.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I want nothing more than for that to actually come
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: true for you.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'll be hanging with Keanu. Yeah, most
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Right, that's a I would be bouncing from person to person,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: just small snippets of conversation because I wouldn't want to
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: be really cornered by a lot.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Of these people, right, especially Michael Myers.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Michael Myers, that could be tough. How is he at
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: a dinner dinner party? Mike, take the mask off? Stay awhile. Okay,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: we're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three things. You tell me if they're
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: a gift to a curse and why. Then I'll tell
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: if you're right or wrong because there are correct answers.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: You're gonna name three things and then I give my
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: answer you at a time.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right. This first one is suggested a listener
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: named Melinda. Gift or a curse fruit in coffee drinks.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, Like.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I like, to be honest, I don't really know of fruit.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I guess I think that would be a curse. Why
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: when I think about what I like about coffee, chunks
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: of fruit don't appeal to me. I mean, if I
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: were allowed to choose my own words. I don't know
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: if I would say curse as much as just not
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: my preference. But yeah, what are we talking about.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I just like to get some idea about it, and
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I am still I'm not getting enough answers. So you're correct, though,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: this is a curse. This makes no sense to me.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I do think we're hitting a level of desperation as
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: far as innovating coffee. I think like we hit the
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: ceiling and now people just don't know where to go
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: from here.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I mean we have so many you know, you have
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: like a crim bruleat kind of thing. You have cinnamon,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: you have vanilla, chocolate, pistachio. Yeah, you have all the
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: macha you know stuff.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: But they people keep trying to think of new ways
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: to do coffee. So I guess maybe they're dropping fruit
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: in it now or.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Talk about like notes of fruit, like oh this is
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: interesting because I like that orange or like a berry, right.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, as far as Melinda's concerned, she just said
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: fruit and coffee drinks. So I'm just picturing like strawberries
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: floating around in my coffee.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I want I think that's a curse.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't work. Okay. This is from a listener
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: named Annie. Gift or a curse. When an automatic door
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't open until you almost run into it, that's a gift.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Why, Because I think we are in danger of taking
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: for granted the ease in which we can move through
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: the modern world, and so many simple things are are
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: you know, like the mechanisms of an automatic door are
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: beyond our understanding for most of us. So I think
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: to learn to appreciate, you know, where the laser beam
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: is that you have to break to open the door,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: and how it works, and where you have to be
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: and don't have the expectation that it's going to open
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: in time or fast enough. You know, I've almost walked
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: into automatic doors that we're opening but simply weren't opening
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: fast enough. You know.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, because you're busy, busy, busy.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you want to believe that you can walk
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: right through and it'll open for you, right. And this
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about with people's expectations, Like you're
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: walking towards an automatic door, and you want to believe
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: it's designed to have a frictionless entering of the building, right,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: So you want to believe that you're going to be
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: treated to the ideal experience, which is you don't have
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: to slow down, you don't have to pay attention to anything.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You just keep walking. You could have your eyes closed
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: even you're going to pass through the door, and you
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: get used to that enough you feel like that's the
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: way things should be, right and that you're entitled to
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: the ease of walking through an automatic door. And there
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: are no guarantees.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Correct, correct, that is a gift. First of all, the
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: grocery store doesn't know you anything. Yeah, as someone who
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: is doing some climate crimes at home, I think it's
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: a more efficient you know, I'm glad that it's more efficient.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: The ac is not leaking out of the store. It's
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: only opening when it absolutely has to and then it's
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: closing again. Yes, So I think that that's a for me.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: That's helping shrink my carbon footprint. Great, and I appreciate
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: it all right. This final one is from a listener
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: named Jeff. Gift or a curse when a party is
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: somewhere that has bad parking.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: When a party is somewhere that has bad parking, well,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I can't think why that would be anything but a curse.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: A party is trouble enough to conceive of going to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: and getting ready leaving the house for me is terrible.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: If it's a party, you know, there's social anxiety, there's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: all that, But really the worst part is just the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: transiting there, the idea of like not being able to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: be in my house anymore, you know, So that first
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: step outside the door is terrible, and then walk to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: the car just awful. And then when you're in the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: car you're like, Okay, I'm kind of getting used to it,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: but I well, no, wait a minute. If the difficulty
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: in parking provides a little bit of extra buffer time
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: to kind of ease into the idea.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Of the social situation, yeah, but if it's in like
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: a bad part of town, man, I think it's a curse.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a curse. I think it's better
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to just rip off the band aid and get there and.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Wrong what you were getting. You were kind of talking
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: yourself into the correct answer there for a minute, and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: then you shied away from them.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: You think the buffer zone is good?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: I love first Yeah, the buffer zone's amazing. It gives
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: you some time. Second of all, I can make hours
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: of small talk out of how difficult it was for
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: me to park. I will talk to everybody at the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: party about what I've just been through, Right, I don't
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: have to think of something to talk about.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Now, What about like one of these hill parties where
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: like there's not even the hope of parking for like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: several fathoms up or down the hill.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Right, for me, that speaks to Okay, so this person's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: got a lot of money there, They've got a house
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: in the hills. So now I can really make them
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: feel bad. Right, parking was terrible. I had a terrible
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: time parking. I've just walked up the hill and it's
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: a little uh ammunition I get to take into the party.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: But they know the parking is going to be bad,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and they think that the recompense is what a great
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: party they're throwing, Right, it's gonna be worth it. So
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: it's almost a show of their arrogance, how great they
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: think their house and party is that they would dare
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: to invite dozens of people.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: They should be busting people up. Yeah, if you don't
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: have a good parking, you should be busting.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: People or the valet. Get the valets that disappear the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: cars somewhere, Right.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: That's the cost of owning a home in the hills.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Sorry, well you got that one wrong. I don't know
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: what to tell you.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I got the other ones right.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: There got two out of three. That's not too bad.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: People usually get them all right.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: No, I think most people landed about two out of three.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Some people have won. Some people have lost it completely.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: That's always embarre, but that's usually out of panic because
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: they start second guessing themselves. All right. People are writing
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com kind
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: of just begging for answers. Will you help me answer
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: an email? Yes, okay, this is Bridger and guest. What
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: should I ask for on my thirtieth birthday at the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: end of the month. I feel spoiled year round by
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: my boyfriend, my parents and brother and even my boyfriend's family.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I'm simply out of ideas, but I know you will
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: come up with something good. That's from Clarissa. Clarissa's getting
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: apparently just spoiled year round, but she's coming up on
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: a big birthday. What do you get for the person
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: who's even the brothers getting her gifts year round. It
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: just feels like a strange family dynamic to me. I'm
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: just going to.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Say that I would recommend maybe like a gundam, like
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: a toy, like a like a Japanese like an exciting
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: your roboty, but like a model kit that she can
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: put together apply decals to. I've had luck with those
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: in the past. It's a fun activity. Not as expensive
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: as Lego.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: They are less expensive than Lego. Some of them interesting
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: because those are from what I'm picturing, always seem very
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: There are all sorts of little pieces.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: They range in value, of course, but your typical gundam
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: is going to be, you know, thirty to one hundred bucks.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: You know you have to you have to take off
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the plastic you have. It's more care that you have
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: to do. You have to take the pieces.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: I remember these model kits.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: You have to break them off. There's lots of tiny stickers.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: The instructions are in Japanese. You feel accomplished when you
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: figure it out. They're highly articulable, like you can bed
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: their toes and their fingers.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: And dress them up, put a little shirt on them.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I guess you could sew a shirt of an appropriate size.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like I've ever seen a gundam in
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Nicotas Street clothes. It's true, people should start making clothes
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: for Gundams. Little dress.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's undressed, like a summer picnic dress for
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: a Gunda.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: This floey dress. Yeah, that's a market that has not
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: been tapped into yet, and I think that that's a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: huge hole that somebody's got to figure out. You can
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: make a lot of money sewing dresses for Gundams.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that that's kind of actually the perfect thing.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine Clarissa owns a Gundam.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: She doesn't seem like the type of person that owns
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: a Gunda.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: It feels like there's you know, there's never a better
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: time to start with a Gundam collection than at thirty.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: This is a new chapter of her life. Yeah, she's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: lived thirty years without building a model mech and now
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: for the next decade, you can kind of dedicate herself
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: to that. And that'll also ease all of these people
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: giving her gifts. They'll say, oh, you know what, Clarissa
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: wants another Gundam, Yeah, or some clothes.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: First, clothes for the Gundam, or accessories, a little hat, yeah,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: a bike.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: See, wow, I'm like, I'm thinking about the whole Gundom
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: economy now, and it feels like it has not been exploited.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: They've got to have bikes, they've got to have little dollhouses.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Newspapers, newspapers. Well, giant house, I mean a gunda house. Yeah,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: they have fairly larger than a human building.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, but it feels like that's a new type
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: of section that these robots haven't really been exposed to yet. Well,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: we answered the question perfectly, or you did? I mean
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: that was such a very good pull for this thirty
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: year old. I feel like that really speaks to any
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: thirty year old.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I recently acquired a Gundam myself.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: A first Gundam.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I know, I dabbled as a kid. But then we
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: went to little Tokyo a few months ago. Is that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: what it's called? Yes? Here, Yes, and I got a Gundam.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Then we actually went to Japan a few weeks ago.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, and I.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Saw there was a whole store with all.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Did you get a Gundam there? That's a hard thing
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: to carry home.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I'm over it now, but there was like they're like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: full metal, hundreds of dollars.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Very authentic to what a robot.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Would be yeah, and I was like, should I get
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: four hundred dollars like all metals, super detailed gundom? Do
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I love it that much? Or am I just in Japan?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: And it turns out I was just in Japan.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that happens there. Yeah, next time
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: you go to Japan.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could order it online or you.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: Could order online. But you're getting toilet snakes. Well, I've
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: got my beautiful addition to the studio here.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Sorry, it's another painting, but I think it's
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: your best one.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I hope that that the art collection could kind of
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: go through the roof on this podcast. Maybe this will
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: be a new thing bringing in art. You never know.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: I've had such a lovely time with you and I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: you thank you for being here. Listener. The podcast is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: over and I I'd love for you to do something
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: else with your time, so figure it out. I love you, goodbye,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: booker Patrick Coottner. You must follow the show on Instagram.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: At I said, no gifts, that's where you're going to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: don't you want to see the gifts? Invit?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Did you hear?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Fun?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: A man?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? And you're I guess, Tom, you gotta
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: come to me empty? And I said, no, guest, your
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me