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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 223 | Diving Into the Offseason With Jourdan Lewis, Draft Hot Takes · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Draft week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of Annie Stevens, bindsext and John Oser with me.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jags Am and the PM.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting ready for prime time because the draft's gonna
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  Speaker 2: kick off tomorrow continues through the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And while it's a little bit different than.
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  Speaker 2: Years past here in Jacksonville, I think it's a good
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  Speaker 2: thing for this team, especially after what we saw from
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  Speaker 2: them last season on the field. Let's start out with
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  Speaker 2: our big things for you. Number One is going to
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  Speaker 2: be guess who's back because the players.
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  Speaker 1: Are back in the building.
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  Speaker 2: The off season program has begun a little later than
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  Speaker 2: normal because the staff is returning. That's something we haven't
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  Speaker 2: had around here a ton as of late, and Trevor
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  Speaker 2: Lawrence really appreciates that.
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  Speaker 3: I'd say the mental part of it too, is not
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  Speaker 3: having to completely relearn a new system. That's a bonus
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  Speaker 3: as well, because you can really fine tune some of
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  Speaker 3: the things and you can get into more of the
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  Speaker 3: details instead of just trying to learn stuff for the
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  Speaker 3: first time. You're a lot further along. So starting today,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, obviously we're a lot further ahead than
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  Speaker 3: we were last year, and a lot of work to
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  Speaker 3: be done. And you know, we got to build a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of chemistry. We got new guys and there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of guys to go up to speed. But as
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  Speaker 3: far as I think our core and guys that were here,
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  Speaker 3: the comfort level with the offense, with each other, the chemistry,
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff is a nice carryover. But you still
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  Speaker 3: got to go and like I said, put the work
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  Speaker 3: in this.
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  Speaker 2: Year, Brian, a lot of people back in the building,
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  Speaker 2: and yes it is the same staff, some of the
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  Speaker 2: same players, of course, but you gotta start fresh. Can't
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  Speaker 2: just think you're gonna carry over last year into this year.
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  Speaker 1: They need to begin a.
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  Speaker 4: New you know, Ki, thirty two years of doing this.
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  Speaker 5: What the players say on the day that they returned
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  Speaker 5: for off the field work, or rather out of season work,
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  Speaker 5: has never really changed. Everyone's optimistic. Everyone talks about how
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  Speaker 5: good it was to get away and how good it
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  Speaker 5: is to be back. Here's what I liked about what
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  Speaker 5: I heard from and from Josh Heinz Allen, who both
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  Speaker 5: spoke this week.
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  Speaker 4: It was the tone of voice. Right. Liam Cohen is
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  Speaker 4: a winner.
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  Speaker 5: He has been around winning, He understands what winning takes,
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  Speaker 5: and he's been preaching that to his team since he
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  Speaker 5: got here last year, and to hear them speak, to
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  Speaker 5: hear Josh talk about starting back at the bottom and
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  Speaker 5: no carryover and no complacency. To listen to them was
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  Speaker 5: to hear their coach's voice, which is a really good
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  Speaker 5: sign John, because clearly Liam Cohen understands what he's trying
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  Speaker 5: to build, and now his players sound like him, which
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  Speaker 5: means they probably understand too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, last year was great, It doesn't matter. And I
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  Speaker 6: think Liam has focused, from what I've been able to tell,
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  Speaker 6: on making sure players, coaches, everybody in the building realizes,
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  Speaker 6: you know, in the NFL is not about a three
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  Speaker 6: or four year period. You can build three or four
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  Speaker 6: year periods of strength and success, but you have to
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  Speaker 6: do it each year. And I think he has done
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  Speaker 6: a good job of emphasizing, Hey, whatever relationship you had
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  Speaker 6: with players last year, with each other, with coaches, that's fine,
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  Speaker 6: but it has to be rebuilt. It seems to me
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  Speaker 6: like he's trying to make sure that he keeps as
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  Speaker 6: much of that first year energy which we all felt
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  Speaker 6: last year, how it grew, how it was exciting, the
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  Speaker 6: whole way everybody was engaged. I think he's really trying
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  Speaker 6: to make sure that that is felt, and you certainly
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  Speaker 6: felt that from when Trevor and Josh Heinz Allen's talked
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  Speaker 6: on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely back in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Good for us to have some football to talk about
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  Speaker 2: and the draft to talk about. But first, our second
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  Speaker 2: big thing is swap meat.
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  Speaker 1: There was a.
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  Speaker 2: Trade between the Atlanta Falcons and the Jacksonville Jaguars earlier
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  Speaker 2: this week. Didn't involve draft picks, but it does send
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  Speaker 2: Mason Smith to Atlanta and brings a different big guy
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  Speaker 2: here Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 7: I have a lot of respect for Masonville. I hope
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  Speaker 7: he has a heck of a career. He did nothing
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  Speaker 7: but what we asked him to do from a work
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  Speaker 7: ethic standpoint, from doing the right things and what we
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  Speaker 7: asked of him, and just we felt like we had
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  Speaker 7: an opportunity to potentially get an ascending player that can
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  Speaker 7: provide a little bit in the rush. It's hard to
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  Speaker 7: find big men that can move like that on the
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  Speaker 7: interior party or defense without giving up in the run game.
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  Speaker 7: It is something we want to continue to be top
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  Speaker 7: notch out which we were in the NFL this past season,
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  Speaker 7: but something we want to look at that Rouke gives
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  Speaker 7: us an opportunity the big man that can move, that
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  Speaker 7: can get in the rush plan as well, and showed
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  Speaker 7: the ability to get to the quarterback a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Smith shipped out, John, I'll say for you, Ruke, a
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  Speaker 2: row row row, thanks coming into town. And these two
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  Speaker 2: were drafted in the same draft class just two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but a couple of picks apart, but haven't seen a
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  Speaker 2: ton out of either of them. Seems like maybe swap
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  Speaker 2: places and hope they can kind of find a way
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  Speaker 2: to fit in with their new teams.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly what it is. And you know, I met Ruke.
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  Speaker 6: I hope he'll be okay if I call him Ruke.
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  Speaker 6: But it's clearly two second round picks drafted by regimes
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  Speaker 6: that are no longer with their current organization. So I
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  Speaker 6: think it was a case where the guys weren't quite
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  Speaker 6: going to have the chance to do what they wanted
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  Speaker 6: to do in the NFL at their old spots. Sometimes
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  Speaker 6: Brian teams just want to make a change with a
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  Speaker 6: spot and get guys in a new environment.
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  Speaker 4: I like Mason Smith.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's got a lot of potential.
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  Speaker 4: As Liam said, wishing in the best, but Brian. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: you just have.
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  Speaker 6: To make a change and figure out if it's going
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  Speaker 6: to work a little better at the new spot.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's a system now that we know with coach
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  Speaker 5: Camp how he wants to do things, and he obviously
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  Speaker 5: thinks this guy because their numbers when you look at them, tackles, sacks, pressures,
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  Speaker 5: where they were drafted probably with their.
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  Speaker 4: Paycheck says really similar.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what strikes me, Kyle, is that people who know
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  Speaker 5: this draft know that this is not a good draft
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  Speaker 5: for defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 4: So you've got to do.
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  Speaker 5: Something to create a change up front. This trade gets
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  Speaker 5: that One of the things James Gladstone at his press
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  Speaker 5: conference two weeks ago talked about guys, and it's tough
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  Speaker 5: to find those pass rushing tackles because the position requires
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  Speaker 5: you to be stout and able to stay in there
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  Speaker 5: in the inner part.
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  Speaker 4: Of the line and take on the run.
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  Speaker 5: But there's developmental opportunities right there are guys who can
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  Speaker 5: get better as pass rushers over time, and so I
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if the Jaguars don't go looking for
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  Speaker 5: those kinds of guys, Guys with two to three year
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  Speaker 5: potential in the system that Campaneeli's putting in place here
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  Speaker 5: they can.
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  Speaker 4: Grow into the role that they want them to play.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Kyle, the only thing on this it was upside
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  Speaker 6: for the Jags. I don't think Mason Smith was going
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  Speaker 6: to have a huge role based on what he had
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  Speaker 6: done last year, so look figure out maybe Rooke has
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  Speaker 6: a bigger role. So I'm not sure there was very
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  Speaker 6: much risk at all.
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  Speaker 4: Of the Jags.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if he was going to make
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  Speaker 2: that final roster. And now with him leave town, there's
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  Speaker 2: only three players from that draft class left on this team,
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  Speaker 2: obviously BTJ cam Little and Jari and Jones, So we'll
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  Speaker 2: see those guys obviously have their place pretty cemented.
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  Speaker 1: At this point.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do our final big thing today, which is Draft Days,
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  Speaker 2: and I mentioned that it's not a draft day anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We're not as focused on Day one as we usually are. Brian,
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  Speaker 2: it's always a you know, we have a big party,
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  Speaker 2: we do a lot of stuff like that, but this
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  Speaker 2: year it's very much about.
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  Speaker 1: The later rounds and finding quality later on.
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  Speaker 5: This team is led by a man in James Gladstone,
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  Speaker 5: who has been a part of rams organizations that have
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  Speaker 5: mined the portion of the draft where the Jaguars are drafting,
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  Speaker 5: you know, from the middle of the second round on.
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  Speaker 4: My hot take is kind of in this area.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm going to just lay out a little bit
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  Speaker 5: here only to say that this is an important draft
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  Speaker 5: for the Jaguars, and just because you don't have a
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  Speaker 5: first round pick, John in a draft most people think
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  Speaker 5: has about fifteen guys who have legitimate first round grades.
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  Speaker 5: So that means from the middle of the first round
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  Speaker 5: on down, it becomes what tra it's are important to you,
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  Speaker 5: when personality qualities are important to you, the kind of people,
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  Speaker 5: the positions you're looking for. It's not a bad year
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  Speaker 5: to not have a first round pick. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: a really good year to have a couple of picks,
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  Speaker 5: you know, congested where they do between fifty and ninety.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you're a Jaguar fan, you know, don't
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  Speaker 6: not watch the draft on Thursday because late. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think it's out of the question at all that there's
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  Speaker 6: activity for the Jaguars late in that first round. But
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  Speaker 6: I don't necessarily think the Jaguars are sitting around here
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  Speaker 6: right now going, oh, we've got to get into the
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  Speaker 6: first I do think they're looking at, you know, certain
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  Speaker 6: positions and waiting to see where guys fall.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're ready to move up.
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  Speaker 6: I also think they're ready to move up into the
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  Speaker 6: early part of the second, into the mid part of
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  Speaker 6: the second. This team's not going to just you know,
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  Speaker 6: ThEC will not be dark tomorrow, they will not be
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  Speaker 6: at their own draft party. They'll be ready to move
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  Speaker 6: if the opportunity is there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe keep keep an eye on the team. You
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: don't have to like make an appointment television, but just definitely.
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  Speaker 6: Stream something on one and then go to the other.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, just a little bit pay attention, keep your eye
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  Speaker 2: on things.
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  Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to some of your favorite players,
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  Speaker 2: see what they're doing in the off season, and also
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  Speaker 2: we'll give you our hot takes about the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in, Jags fans.
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  Speaker 2: Were checking with your favorite Jaguars players in the off season,
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  Speaker 2: so we're checking in with the defensive captain, Jordan Lewis
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  Speaker 2: in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: See what he's up to.
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  Speaker 2: So, first of all, congratulations, I know even new addition
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  Speaker 2: to the family.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, thank you so much, Naomi Lewis.
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  Speaker 9: So she's she's been a pleasure and we just was
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  Speaker 9: excited to you know, go through this journey again Number three.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely and have some off season time so actually we
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  Speaker 2: get to be home with the family. Must be nice
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely, Yeah, we take full advantage of that too.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's football wise, you obviously had some injuries last year.
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  Speaker 2: Your how's the rehab going for you? How do you
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  Speaker 2: feel right now? Physically?
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  Speaker 8: It's doing really well.
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  Speaker 9: I'm starting to you know, transition to doing all the workouts, uh,
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  Speaker 9: you know, no limitations, full body weight running and things
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  Speaker 9: like that, you know, trying to get some lateral movement going.
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  Speaker 8: But it's it's going really well.
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  Speaker 9: I think we arehead a schedule right now, and I'm
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  Speaker 9: excited to see what I can do with OTAs and
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  Speaker 9: and trade camp.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, people be back in the building soon, kind of
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: start that off season program. Uh, you've had some time now,
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  Speaker 2: it's about two a couple of months. Have you looked
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  Speaker 2: back on kind of the first season here in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: What's kind of your takeaway from obviously making the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: and and exit and some injuries for you, But what
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  Speaker 2: was your kind of takeaway first year hearing Jackson Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It was just experience honestly, you know, we had an
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  Speaker 9: experience with you know what a team like that would
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  Speaker 9: look like, you know, going far further than the playoffs,
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  Speaker 9: and then you know, just playing you know, a really
• 10:52
  Speaker 9: good ball at the end of the season, not having
• 10:54
  Speaker 9: any mental laps, playing our best ball, you know when
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  Speaker 9: it's required. And I think that's the ma ain't take
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  Speaker 9: away all takes from last year was just that guy's
• 11:04
  Speaker 9: got some experienced reps and then they got to experience,
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  Speaker 9: you know, what it feels like to be in the
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  Speaker 9: playoffs and you know how it is to play in
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  Speaker 9: those type of situations and understanding you know, those high
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  Speaker 9: pressure UH plays and reps that we need to take
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  Speaker 9: advantage of. And I feel like we we're getting better
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  Speaker 9: and I think we're gonna we're to have an excellent
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  Speaker 9: season of football.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. We felt like, at least from outside perspective, you
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  Speaker 2: and Eric Murray came in and kind of really developed
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  Speaker 2: that room some younger guys, and we saw a lot
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  Speaker 2: of success out of some of the young guys, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's Antonio Johnson or Jarian or just kind of them
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  Speaker 2: really buying into and appreciating that leadership and experience you
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  Speaker 2: brought to the room. What are you excited about kind
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  Speaker 2: of going into this year, not only them getting another
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  Speaker 2: year of experience, but also you know, Travis Hunter will
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  Speaker 2: be back healthy, Caleb Brands, I'll be out there. It's
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: exciting kind of room and group.
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  Speaker 5: To be with.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, it starts with our foundation and you know Camp,
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  Speaker 9: he has an amazing foundation he gave He gave me
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  Speaker 9: and Eric that voice to be out there and you know,
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  Speaker 9: be an extension of him. So, you know, without that foundation,
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  Speaker 9: without him being able to teach us techniques, teach us,
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  Speaker 9: you know, different types of coverages and how to play
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  Speaker 9: football the right way. You know, me and me and
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  Speaker 9: Eric wouldn't have been, you know, as valuable. So it
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  Speaker 9: starts with him. I'm it starts with the defensive staff,
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  Speaker 9: and I'm I'm excited. I'm excited to go out there
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  Speaker 9: and see what the young guys do, you know, just
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  Speaker 9: trying to give him any type of wisdom to further.
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  Speaker 8: Their football football careers.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm excited honestly, you know, so I feel like
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  Speaker 9: we started that foundation and like you said that, that's
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  Speaker 9: definitely an exciting group to go out there and play
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  Speaker 9: with this year, to see where you know, we stack
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  Speaker 9: up amongst the best, and I think we should be
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  Speaker 9: one of the best, if not the best, in the
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  Speaker 9: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Camp interviewed for some head coaching jobs, but he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be back now, so be second year in his system.
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  Speaker 2: What is it about his either coaching or communication style?
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  Speaker 2: Why is he so effective? How is he able to
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  Speaker 2: be so effective?
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  Speaker 8: He's the ultimate teacher.
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  Speaker 9: Honestly, he teaches you from the from the little minute
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  Speaker 9: details to you know, the grand scheme of you know,
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  Speaker 9: what we're trying to do.
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  Speaker 8: So everybody from UHLA from the.
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  Speaker 9: Nose guard to to the safety, they don't know exactly
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  Speaker 9: what the defense is, you know, call to do and
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  Speaker 9: what we're trying to do on that on that specific play.
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  Speaker 9: So it starts right there, like I said, with him,
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  Speaker 9: and that's why it makes him, you know, so so
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  Speaker 9: dynamic as a coach and as a guy that coordinates
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  Speaker 9: the defense too. But honestly, I think he's he's the
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  Speaker 9: ultimate coach man, and I don't I don't think I
• 13:38
  Speaker 9: had a better defensive coordinator from him, I mean, from
• 13:42
  Speaker 9: you know, being in the league and than he is.
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  Speaker 9: So I'm excited to, you know, go out there and
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  Speaker 9: to experience that second year with him and help him
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  Speaker 9: in any way to make sure this football team is
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  Speaker 9: this defense is one of the best in the league.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking at Coach con a little bit and the
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  Speaker 2: success you guys had in your one obviously very impressive,
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  Speaker 2: but also realizing it starts, it starts.
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  Speaker 1: A new year.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean anything anymore, right, So what how is
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  Speaker 2: is there a balance between using that experience and also realizing, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're starting from zero again.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, we got to understand, you know what it's about education.
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  Speaker 9: It's about understanding what what the defense called, what the
• 14:21
  Speaker 9: what the what the.
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  Speaker 8: The overarching theme is for the football team and you.
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  Speaker 9: Know how we want to play football the Jaguars in
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  Speaker 9: twenty twenty six, twenty seven, And that's just you know,
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  Speaker 9: understanding what we need to do and understanding that you know,
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  Speaker 9: it's still going to be a new year at that
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  Speaker 9: so it's going to be a new team. But at
• 14:41
  Speaker 9: the same time, we have experience enough to e spirits
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  Speaker 9: enough from the young guys and you know, older guys
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  Speaker 9: to understand what they want from us and what they
• 14:49
  Speaker 9: want to see this year. So it's a challenge because
• 14:52
  Speaker 9: it's a new year. Like you said, it's gonna be
• 14:54
  Speaker 9: new pieces and new people, different places. But I think
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: that we have that foundation from the year one in
• 15:00
  Speaker 9: the system to you know, excel in your two.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Treyvon Walker got a contract extension, so he's gonna be
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: here a little bit longer. You play on the field
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: with him, He's so he's so tough, and he's just
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: a very unique kind of player. What's it like being
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: on the field with him? And what does he bring
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: to the team.
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  Speaker 8: Man, he's so selfless.
• 15:17
  Speaker 9: You don't see a lot of edge players in the
• 15:19
  Speaker 9: NFL nowadays that get a lot of recognition for going
• 15:22
  Speaker 9: to go get the passer. Be that you know, humble
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: and team oriented, and he's an invaluable piece to what
• 15:30
  Speaker 9: we do.
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: He stops to run, he can go get the passer.
• 15:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, he's he's very influential on the in the
• 15:37
  Speaker 9: locker room too, and he's always positive. He's always a positive.
• 15:40
  Speaker 9: Guy's never a negative moment with with Trayvon. And I'm
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: excited to go out there and you know, be behind
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: him him, go rush the pastor and you know, get
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: some uh, he got some incentives to go get the
• 15:52
  Speaker 9: quarterbacks some more too.
• 15:53
  Speaker 8: So that that should help us some more going on
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: along this year.
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: And it's just he's a pleasure him and him and
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: Josh Man, they just, you know, they just want to
• 16:01
  Speaker 9: get better. They want to become better football players and
• 16:04
  Speaker 9: help this team elevate to where I think we can do.
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: And I think that's a super Bowl.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: That was our off season check in with Jordan Lewis
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: day with us here on Jagszam. We got more coming
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: up after the.
• 16:12
  Speaker 10: Break, Welcome back in and afternoon edition of Jags Aam.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: We're getting ready for those long night shifts ahead. We're
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: am people, but you know we got to get ready
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: for primetime. It'll be a little bit quieter than usual
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: on Thursday, as long as everything doesn't go crazy like
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: we have seen it do before.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I'm so all of sorts.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm used to being on site and without
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: having our first round pick this year, and without having
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: a stadium to do a stadium party in.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm not the only one, aren't you generally offside? Also, yes, I'm.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Usually at a party.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I was at Lemon Bar last year, so I will
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: be in house this time around. We're gonna have pre
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: coverage of course, and then after pick analysis, we'll still
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: be on tomorrow night on Jaguars dot Com and YouTube
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and you can check u out.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: We'll tell you everything we know.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: We're gonna check in with the big guns, and as.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Things go along, we will analyze them. But first we're
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: gonna give.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: You our hot takes for this draft because it's a
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: little bit different than usual.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: So Brian, what's hot take?
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  Speaker 4: I think this is a really important draft.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: In fact, I think it'll be a defining draft for
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: James Gladstone. Not just twenty twenty six success, but I
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: think if we look back in two or three years,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: we'll say that what they get done at right now
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: fifty six.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Eighty one, eighty eight, and eighty or one hundred will
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: be really important.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: It'll be a barometer because when you go and you
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: look at what the Rams did in the second round,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: middle of the second round, from pick fifty to about
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: pick ninety, man, they really made them.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Hey, I mean, Cooper Cup was pick sixty nine.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: You take Brian Young, we saw him last year, right
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: he was picked seventy seven. Kobe Turner was picked eighty nine.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Just past that, Ernest Jones, their linebacker was one oh three,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: So I think those four picks will be critical starters,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: not the least of which you get two guys from
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: the eighties back last year Caleb Bramstell didn't play in
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Wiolett Myland was severely limited with the knee injury. So
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I really think that this is an important even though
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: it's not a first round pick, or it's a draft
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: without a first round pick, at this moment, I really
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: think that this is going to be because James Gladstone
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: was part of that Rams organization that did such great work.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And go take a look.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: You'll see not even to forget one point sixty four
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Kyron Williams one seventy seven Pooka.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Nukuah to eleven Quinton Lake.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, they have done great work with picks, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: I fully expect that Gladstone will put in front of
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: his coach eight to ten really important picks, guys who
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: will evolve and develop into, if not big time players
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: like a Puka Nukua, guys who fit in so that
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: some guys can go and you can keep your salary
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: cap healthy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Well if they stay with eleven picks, I think they
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: had what ten last year?
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Are you getting the count well, if you start doing
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: the math, eleven are probably going to be either on
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: the team out of this draft in that range ten
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: or on the practice squad with a chance to really
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: move up. You're doing the last two drafts twenty out
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: of fifty three guys. The core changes very quickly in
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: these first couple of drafts. First three, this will be
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: second twenty two players. The culture is changing, so every
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: draft is key. But I agree with Brian those four
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: or five picks between two and four in this draft,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: especially which is considered maybe not great at the top,
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: but really good at a lot of spots in those areas,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: you could see a lot of key players, even if
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: they're not first year starters.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: One more to mention, if the Jags are to move
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: up a little bit, not even to the first round.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Briton Fisk was the thirty ninth pick of the draft
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, and we saw Fisk and
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Kobe Turner and Brian Young all play a significant role
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: in the Rams win in London on that defensive front.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: So there's a lot you can get done in the
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: second and third rounds, and I expect that they will.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: John, what did you bring for us with your hot
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: take this week, Well.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Don't if you're a Jags fan, don't necessary have something
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: on tomorrow. Don't necessarily go straight to Netflix and stream
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: stranger things, because stranger things have happened than the Jaguars
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: trading up to get into the first round. So I
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: wouldn't really sleep on anything. I would not sleep on
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: them trading up. I also would not be shocked you're
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: sending fifty six to see a later night on Friday
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: than we're expecting, mainly because this organization, with Gladstone, Miscellly
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: and Cohen, they are going to be bold, and if
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: bold means going up into the first round, if there's
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: the right guy, they're not afraid to do it.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: And I saw last year they're not.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Really even afraid to do something that might get criticized
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: a little bit. So I would not necessarily assume anything
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: about this draft. I think there's probably as good a
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: chance of them coming back as there is going up.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: But out of those fifties, you know, I've been writing
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: and everybody's been talking for weeks, fifty six, eighty one,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: eighty eight, one hundred, I think it's a very low
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: chance that those are the four were talking about on mine.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think they're going to move because they're
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: going to be creative and aggressive.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of noise out there right now about
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: them going up into the bottom of the first round.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I think running back is what a lot of people
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: are talking about. I'll say this, nobody knew last year
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: that they were going up to two to get Travis
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Hunter until they went on the clock.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I mean that never wanted people to know.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: That, never broke.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: These guys have been very good so far at making
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: sure you couldn't follow their trail. They let you know
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: what they wanted you to know, and the rest of
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: it they kept very very tight to the best. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: you know, my early days of covering this thing, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: wanted to know. Now I just kind of admire the
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: fact that they can keep it a secret in today's
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: media world, and I'm excited to get to draft night
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: and see what they do.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I'm excited too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I think I wanted to point out with my hot
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: take this week that your priorities or your needs may
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: not match their needs. And I say that because we've
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: been talking off season.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You know, we didn't know where they were going to go.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You think, hey, they need some help on the defensive line,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: or maybe they need a replacement.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: For Devin Lloyd at linebacker.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I've learned through the years, and this specifically with the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: regime we now have in place, what you think you
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: know and what you think this team needs is not
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: going to necessarily match up with what they end up
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: doing during the draft on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. So
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: if you're saying, oh, they need to get a linebacker
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: at a fifty six, that's not necessarily where this is
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: gonna be at where this is gonna go. And obviously,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: as John mentioned, they could move around might look different
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: with what picks they have available. But as we saw
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: last year with that trade going down so close and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: no one knowing about it until it happened, they will
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: get what they want.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: But they're not necessarily going to tell anybody about it
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: until they do it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: You'll say this to clarify because people who watch this
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: show will be tuned in presumably this people watch this
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: show are the hard cores who are watching everything, right,
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: So there's gonna be points tomorrow or on on on
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: on Friday, even if they don't take a linebacker, which
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: because Devin Lloyd's gone, it's it's a perceived need or
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: if they don't go defensive tackle because interior press pressure
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: is in need. They feel fine about Ventrel Miller plan.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: They feel fine about the group. They have an outside linebacker.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: There's no I.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: You know, Ventrell was pushing Devin Lloyd for the starting position,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: so there's no doubt there. They like Trayvon inside you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: s some and they feel like they can get the
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: interior pressure. They feel very needless going into this draft,
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: and uh, needless is is a good thing. So UH,
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: don't necessarily think again, cause book I said, don't think
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: because they don't address linebacker right right there, that it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: a weakness, because that's not how they see it at all.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: What was the what's the phrase you think you know
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: but you don't. I I use it again.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: John knows, John knows. Everything says fair.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: We'll tell you what the schedule is going to be
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: looking like tomorrow and for the rest of draft weekend,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Jags fans, locking your seats here for twenty twenty six.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: The stadium will be open.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: As we know, they're gonna play in Orlando the year after,
• 24:23
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• 24:25
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• 24:26
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• 24:34
  Speaker 11: All that's a that's a fair question. I think that
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: I definitely tried my best to take some steps to
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: clear the air, so to speak, and zoom out well
• 24:49
  Speaker 11: at the same time. It's when it's what you love,
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: it's hard to detach fully.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: A really cool episode of The Hunt.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: If you guys haven't checked it out this week, I
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: haven't been able to watch the entire thing, but I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: helped with some of the interviews for it, and it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: all about their tracking, their analysis system, the system they
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: use in scouting, and how they kind of analyze players,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: how they make these picks and the selections and the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: whole team work that's built up behind James Gladstone because
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we give him all the credit, but there's a lot
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of guys involved in this and it's really cool. So
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: if you haven't checked that out, it's on Jaguars dot
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: com Jaguars YouTube, and we do want to tell you
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: that we will be here all week.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than normal. We're not gonna
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: have draft.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Party, but we will be here with all your coverage.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: We'll start at seven thirty on Thursday, and we'll also
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: have a pre show six thirty on Friday, and after
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: every Jaguar's pick, we're gonna have an analysis of that,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: so we'll jump in with you. We're gonna be talking
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to the big guys, James Gladstone, Tony Bisselliam Cohen, coaches, scouting.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: We got you covered. We're not at the draft this year,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: but we're here and we're ready for it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You guys ready, I'm ready.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go Born ready draft. That's good.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see all you guys tomorrow. Enjoy the draft
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: this weekend