Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / LIVING With AUTISM How To ADHD Interview: (Real Life Experience)
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- 0:05In this podcast. I'm interviewed by Josh from how
- 0:07to ADHD on living with autism until it's super cool.
- 0:10Hope you enjoy let me know what you think about it in a tweet on
- 0:13Twitter and checking out my patreon piece.
- 0:19So I was in VidCon last year and I hung out with Jess from how to
- 0:24ADHD and other awesome channel. So please check that and we did
- 0:27a video on basically Asperger syndrome and talking about ADHD
- 0:31and stuff like that and how they kind of interact and living with
- 0:34autism. So so without further Ado,
- 0:37please enjoy. Let's talk about friends.
- 0:40Like was it hard for you to make friends?
- 0:43Do you are there certain qualifications that you look for
- 0:45in a friend now so growing up it was difficult to make friends
- 0:48right? Because Yeah, the weird kid who
- 0:50doesn't play outside in the playground.
- 0:52You don't understand people's houses who never go to the
- 0:54social events to educate you don't you don't pay unlike the
- 0:56peewee football team, you know, all my friends did all this
- 0:59stuff and I was just a hump my leg over the whole time.
- 1:01So it was definitely difficult to make friends because needed
- 1:05to find someone who was just as bizarre as you and it should
- 1:08weigh like so it was yeah it was difficult.
- 1:11But those are dyslexic kid who's called Mike who's it's called me
- 1:14and he just loved Lego and I was like boom and even lived like a
- 1:18block. Away from my house.
- 1:20So we were really good friends and best ones.
- 1:22He's like my only friends until I got to high school really and
- 1:26then I had I met guy said it earlier.
- 1:29I might go Jake and we played music together.
- 1:32And so then I started playing cycling bass guitar.
- 1:35And so what happened was I went from having like two friends
- 1:39from high school and from primary school and then going
- 1:41into High School playing music and this opened is Floodgate Of
- 1:44creative brains, and then I could have common ground.
- 1:47So until that point I Talk about anything like he was this weird
- 1:50thing about football be like, I'd like to see something like
- 1:55all like what you think about girls, right and I'll be like so
- 2:00whenever like what you think I'll face.
- 2:01I'm like dude. I don't get fostering base.
- 2:03I'm using the 25 gauge right now.
- 2:05This is a fender Mexican Precision.
- 2:07So the like so I have something to talk about housing that
- 2:10relate and that was like to me that was that was everything.
- 2:12I changed my life having music right changed my life too much.
- 2:17Honestly, like I found the same. I would always be weird and not
- 2:20fit in until I found something where I could connect with
- 2:23people about something like when there was a focal point.
- 2:26So I did really well in like bands.
- 2:28I did really well in theater like places where I'm like Hey,
- 2:31we're into the same thing. There was always Common Ground.
- 2:33Where is like in the rest of my life?
- 2:35It feels very separate, you know feels very like disconnected
- 2:38disconnected. Yeah.
- 2:39Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's tough you
- 2:42have this social expectation. If you're in a bus stop people
- 2:44going to talk to you about I don't know whether or shopping
- 2:47or that family or something. I can't decide.
- 2:49I'm thinking of ways. I don't care like it's not like
- 2:51I'm being rude. I just like I don't know this
- 2:54person. Like why would I think you know
- 2:56asking me about my personal life so we had very like agent play
- 2:59bass. I'm like, yeah, you know, so I
- 3:02think we're always expected to have unusual conversations with
- 3:06complete strangers that we have no interest in any fun.
- 3:10What is unusual because for most people is like a very typical
- 3:13conversation, but it's small talk and I can't steer smoke
- 3:17either because there's nothing stimulating our Gauging about
- 3:20it. There's nothing interesting to
- 3:21me about the weather unless you know, unless there is something
- 3:24interesting about the weather like one time.
- 3:26I got caught in a flood and they had to sail boats to that cart
- 3:30happens to get our medications if we need medications like that
- 3:33was interesting but usually the weather is not that interesting
- 3:36subject and its focus on wind howling people.
- 3:41Just just feel this need to talk to other people about absolute
- 3:44rubbish. It's like, oh, okay.
- 3:46So do you engage in small talk if needed or do you kind of You
- 3:49the conversation away. Well, I took this is what I do.
- 3:52I have a system. Okay, so I'm I'm I'm wizard like
- 3:55my sister like Alex so we're bit home feeling it.
- 3:59He'll stop the conversation of say small talk and I'll jump
- 4:02until we like how about, you know avocado toast bar the other
- 4:05day that was like a bad cold again.
- 4:07I really like toast, you know, so I'll come in with like I'll
- 4:09just follow what he does. But if I'm on my own a little
- 4:12bit like, you know, it's difficult.
- 4:15I can't stand those conversations, um, like because
- 4:19it's like Like it's weird. Like I have nothing to say and
- 4:22it's hard because like oh my God, I wish they'd just didn't
- 4:24say anything to me because it was like now I just looks stupid
- 4:27something like, you know, and it's difficult, right?
- 4:30It's developed people think I'm an arrogant.
- 4:32I think that's a lot because in one arrogant like idiot, really
- 4:34and I'm not like I love people I love doing stuff on helping
- 4:38people but it's because of that neurotypical idea of like have
- 4:42to be in a certain way to be accepted as a cool person right
- 4:46now these social norms where it's like, okay that small talk
- 4:48is To be kind of in an invasive way to get to know somebody like
- 4:53and like break the ice in it. I don't know any casual way
- 4:56before you start talking about anything.
- 4:58That's really meaningful to either person.
- 5:01How do you start conversations? If you start conversations,
- 5:04well, I always thought conversations with people
- 5:06because I know I'm going to see that person.
- 5:08So I wouldn't have to The Strangers that's Islands in
- 5:10right? So I was like, I'm going to see
- 5:11this guy and we're going to talk about buying a new piece of
- 5:14camera equipment. So I'm gonna be like yo camera
- 5:16equipment so I'm here to buy this invoke.
- 5:17Yeah, and but I love this. Thing I was touring assigned a
- 5:22bomb, right? So you get something I was in a
- 5:24I was in a tour with a guy called Thomas Nicholas who's in
- 5:28the American Pie movies. He plays Kevin writers in
- 5:30American Pie as he's a good friend of mine and he plays
- 5:32music song playing music in his band with him for a bit and I
- 5:35was playing music on to with him and we went to this hotel and a
- 5:38really cool trick of small talk. He went up to the desk and he's
- 5:42like, hi. My name is Thomas.
- 5:44I'm staying here tonight. And then he said what he needed.
- 5:46I was like, this is amazing. So now Hi, I'm Daniel.
- 5:51I really need to do this. So I always thought every
- 5:53conversation with hi. I'm down.
- 5:54I think you know, it's like 40 70 when I met you.
- 5:56I was like, I'm done. Yeah.
- 5:57Yeah, I'm pretty sure you said hi.
- 5:58I'm Daniel. I'm stealing your dog.
- 6:02So I've got a new dog everybody. Don't worry about it Randall.
- 6:05You've been sacked. Thank you for you know what your
- 6:09purpose was exactly and I just honestly he is my best policy
- 6:14and like but that but that was like the trick before then like
- 6:17I wouldn't really know how to do that and that wasn't Thousand
- 6:19twelve so before then I must have been like a right idiot.
- 6:22Let's talk to people. It's like I really need that
- 6:24jacket. Well, yeah the social niceties.
- 6:29Well, what about relationships? When did you start dating but I
- 6:33get asked this question a lot on my channel a lot of people want
- 6:36to know more about relationships.
- 6:37So if anybody does want to hear more about this stuff just leave
- 6:39a comment and then I'll actually be their real story.
- 6:41So I'll read the comments on this video.
- 6:42So I'll reply to you and then I'll pick up some feedback.
- 6:44So I started dating when I was. Like, okay.
- 6:50Well, I started I had a fit my first I would go from the 15th,
- 6:52right but it didn't really properly start dating people in
- 6:55the center of dating sounds like a tea That's super late.
- 7:00So my friends like, you know getting in trouble for doing
- 7:04like crazy things with a girl friends and whatever, you know,
- 7:07it's like 15 16 17 18, like the first actual seriously
- 7:11relationship now, I've only ever had like two or three weeks
- 7:15usually trait and it's Difficult, so I type how can I
- 7:22say it like a find somebody who can I can stand my individual
- 7:26nurse there and then another quirks that come with me and
- 7:30then I'll stay on for quite a long time until like you know
- 7:33that phase of my life is done with and then but luckily I
- 7:36found someone who's awesome and I'm with her right now.
- 7:38So I've been with ten years to a school that you can put up with
- 7:40everything. So it's just it sniffing you and
- 7:43years and years of a long time. So, how many do you have any
- 7:47dating or relationship tips? Yeah, so I think the key to this
- 7:51which isn't going to do every single person is that my partner
- 7:55she actually is she's a specialist got first-degree
- 7:59honors childhood studies for children with Asperger's and
- 8:02autism. So she comes from a field.
- 8:05Yeah, she comes with fuel getting it out of super early
- 8:07stage. So when it comes to me, she kind
- 8:09of knows how I am in relation to the kids.
- 8:11She works at every single day. So stop watching us with
- 8:13fashion. So I think the reason we watch
- 8:15this because she at the time of maybe our relationship would
- 8:18have maybe Broke she was educated in this thing.
- 8:21And she was like became this like super nerd in it and that
- 8:23she's like I can't wait to see it that you know, and she can
- 8:25help me a lot and I mean it is like a give and take thing.
- 8:27I have to learn stuff like a lot of people with a special design
- 8:30amazing. I don't have to learn anything.
- 8:31That's who I am and they're right they are who they are.
- 8:33But I want to like I want to be the best person I can be you
- 8:36know, so that means like learning for example is an
- 8:39example. So one of the biggest issues I
- 8:40have is being around her family having dinner stuff and and it's
- 8:44not like a I don't like them. I love them but I feel like you
- 8:48know like the whole Tivity of time when I like to do things
- 8:51and I feel like I'm getting productive time when I'm with
- 8:53with the family and we just having dinner.
- 8:54I feel like okay, so I don't have anything that I relate to
- 8:57these people with as a fact that I'm kind of a family member.
- 9:00I love them. But like I don't know what else
- 9:02to talk about. Nick had a guest excuse and I'll
- 9:04start talking about like science and like stuff and they're just
- 9:07a bit like what and so and I started avoiding those
- 9:10situations are upset my job. Right?
- 9:12So I then was of my therapist will touch like you've got to
- 9:15persevere and go through those things because you need to give
- 9:17a little to get a lot. Back, so that's why I do so it's
- 9:20kind of like a possibility you have to you have to try and put
- 9:22effort in and it's a learning process and I wouldn't say that
- 9:25I learn it overnight taking me 10 years to get a good solid
- 9:29stable place. So I think that's super
- 9:30interesting. I think that's such a great way
- 9:32of putting it because yeah, I think that it's great to be new
- 9:35your I think that nerd adversity is a wonderful thing.
- 9:38I wouldn't trade my brain for the world.
- 9:39But at the same time I do live in a fairly neurotypical society
- 9:44and it's important for me to manage my impairments and I
- 9:48think that that's just a really The perspective to come from is
- 9:50like yes, it's okay to be you. Like I'm you know Embrace that
- 9:53but also like yeah, it isn't given take right.
- 9:56I think that we can maybe meet in the middle like I you know,
- 9:59you're doing your best to make eye contact with me or seem to
- 10:03make eye contact. I'm doing my best not to make
- 10:05eye contact in a way that's uncomfortable for you.
- 10:07And I think that that's really the best way to approach it.
- 10:10Right like we are all trying to live together and and I'll have
- 10:14this copy society and yeah be able to help each other out if
- 10:18everybody gives a little it's like any relationship with
- 10:20anybody, you know, everybody's got different strengths and you
- 10:22give and you take any compromise and make sure that everybody's
- 10:24needs get met. I would really love to see a
- 10:27world and where we meet the needs of people, you know, like
- 10:30if you're neurodivergent, you meet the needs of the people who
- 10:32are neurotypical and and vice versa.
- 10:34I think that's a really just a really cool way of thinking
- 10:37about it. Definitely should never be this
- 10:39body. Like I don't need to change our
- 10:40I don't need to learn because of who I am like, you know, there's
- 10:42always room for improvement but anything right, so what if it
- 10:45doesn't improve declines and you don't decline because the
- 10:48planning goes backwards Right, but then there's no shame right?
- 10:51No shame. That's awesome.
- 10:53So, what was your first job my first ever job, of course job in
- 10:57the world, right? I had a job being a bass player
- 11:00for an Elvis Presley tribute bands the biggest one in the UK
- 11:03and I was 16 years old and I got paid 200 pounds a day to play
- 11:08one and a half hour group an amazing of plane in front of
- 11:1112,000 people friends with him. That's amazing and the calling
- 11:16of I just got to sit in the back and stage of the doubt the base
- 11:18and Like that old perfect job. It really wants the job.
- 11:22So what other what other jobs would be done?
- 11:26I'm just a literally having this conversation outside on the
- 11:28patio. So I've also done I worked for
- 11:32Nerd Block lootcrate my cake box pop in the box and making
- 11:35goodies with your like monthly subscription box service has
- 11:37toys. I helped with implementing
- 11:40monetary systems to help speed up their processor and making
- 11:43them more efficient and physical systems, like how they how they
- 11:46distribute their stuff how the office work.
- 11:48I love Working on systems and patterns of making it easier and
- 11:51quicker. So I did that for a little bit
- 11:53working from home. But then I also worked remotely
- 11:56for fixing computers in the u.s. Actually doing Coca-Cola
- 11:59machine. So when you go to a vending
- 12:00machine at having a touchscreen on it, it's just going to break.
- 12:03So I used to fix those remotely from a office in the UK at night
- 12:06when nobody was around in the office.
- 12:07The whites were offered just sit there and I loved it we're gonna
- 12:10problem is it didn't work with my ADHD because my mood would
- 12:15like super dip and then also an antidepressant and then the
- 12:18other persons were no good. So I have to kind of come out
- 12:20that and so my doctor's kind of said well, you can't work more
- 12:23than like, you know certain amount of hours a week and then
- 12:26you try and find an employee is going to fight for the two days
- 12:29and it did work a little bit when I was doing University.
- 12:31I was able to kind of site hustle work with an office for
- 12:34like a day or two, but it's different it is difficult.
- 12:38And I know that that's common for people on the spectrum is I
- 12:41can't commit to a full-time job at the same time.
- 12:44Like I want to be productive. So what do you do?
- 12:46It's nuts. I'm not telling you what the
- 12:48worst part about it. Before I had YouTube right when
- 12:51I was like between like what would how I do my life?
- 12:54I had this super meltdown. So I'm in an office and they
- 12:57were changing the office around the changing the seat the office
- 12:59around and lay out the stuff. I had a massive not on the
- 13:01office and then I have this like Third Reich as well as I think
- 13:04you know what I'm going to do. I can't look enough this I want
- 13:08to learn many and like I said, I want to be productive want to
- 13:10make stuff. Like how am I gonna have it?
- 13:12I was losing this the creative passion for something that I
- 13:15have nothing but you when you two came along and I was like,
- 13:18this is my thing. Like a since and I just like
- 13:21proximity to the roof it's nuts. And because the beauty of is I
- 13:24do it for my home office and I sat down I do always lose at
- 13:26home. I work with Brands and I get to
- 13:28email them a doctor looking face to face.
- 13:30I spoke with people so I don't have to look in their eyes.
- 13:32It's dope. Okay.
- 13:34So do you have any any things that you still struggle with
- 13:37work-wise or now that you're in like a good profession for you
- 13:40or you like kind of good? I would say that I'm this is the
- 13:44best professional I could probably have loan one issue is
- 13:48meeting with people. Looking in VidCon like we are
- 13:51now the issue I have is that you have to meet new people have to
- 13:55try and learn keep up with small talk and I have a lot to me to
- 13:57kind of like, you know assist you with that and then you've
- 14:00got to shake these hands and you're going to try and make as
- 14:02much eye contact as possible. So they don't feel like you're
- 14:04being rude because of the first time they're meeting you.
- 14:06I want to talk a really good impression.
- 14:07That was extremely fun guys, but it did tell them that I have
- 14:10aspirations. So at the biggest thing is
- 14:12meeting with Browns on for them to understand that you have
- 14:15neuro-diverse issues like that that that's the biggest
- 14:17challenges is working with people who Understand that which
- 14:19is what we're channels all about, which is crazy.
- 14:22Yeah, that seems weird. It seems like if you need with a
- 14:24brand they would naturally understand that well some rounds
- 14:27going to reach out like like like inbound stuff is they've
- 14:31just come across your videos and seen your subscriber count and I
- 14:33just want like a bunker sheets on this is looking at product
- 14:36right? It's like get it we Define for
- 14:39the outbound world where I go approaching grounds to say.
- 14:42Hey, we should totally work together.
- 14:43That's a bit different. They can understand then the
- 14:46sometimes I get not only the companies who offer me to Kind
- 14:49of like talks or speeches or consumer to do the educational
- 14:52stuff. They're totally understanding
- 14:53that's the reason they're asked me to go there.
- 14:55So it's just like, it's Lizzie just like a small bronze of our
- 14:58gadgets and gizmos. They don't understand the
- 15:00condition mainly and everybody else is pretty cool.
- 15:02Right? Okay, two more questions about
- 15:05work. So our question is still about
- 15:06work, but do you have any organizational issues?
- 15:09That's a huge challenge for me like keeping up with all the in
- 15:12boxes and making sure that I don't nothing falls through the
- 15:15cracks is so hard. Okay, so my girlfriend is
- 15:19Basically, like my organization keeper.
- 15:21She helped me organize my calendars.
- 15:22We have three counts in the house.
- 15:23I would counter up his calendar in the living room.
- 15:26And I have a calendar on my phone.
- 15:27I can't they all sing together perfect.
- 15:29She reminds me in prompting to make sure that everything that's
- 15:31on my calendar has an alert on it so that I remember to doing
- 15:34the the problem with the rest of the stuff is that I like you
- 15:38said, it's messy it's all over the place.
- 15:40It's an organized but I have a lot of to-do lists and I will I
- 15:43use something called Wunderlist and they also use the notes on
- 15:48the ice. Under the sink to my MacBook and
- 15:50so as long as I have everything written down a list for Mariah
- 15:54can go through it like a linear timeline, but it is very very
- 15:58difficult. But my my advice would be to use
- 16:00apps use Siri on your phone use the icon that you can invite
- 16:04people into it. You can share the event of
- 16:06people who can have you can attach bits to it.
- 16:08Like I attach and maps for like the meetings.
- 16:10I was going to VidCon and you can put application it has
- 16:13everything you need. So I think that's like that's my
- 16:15best advice is using apps. I did a video on this actually
- 16:18about how I run my life. From apps and we'll be here.
- 16:22How do you know when to turn it off?
- 16:24Like you have a do you ever have trouble stopping work all the
- 16:28time? I never stopped.
- 16:29I mean like it's the most frustrating thing for the most
- 16:32rewarding through the end of the day I get to work all the time.
- 16:35I things I love doing and I'm passionate about and there's
- 16:37nothing more rewarding than looking for something you're
- 16:40passionate about love it. But the downside is you crash
- 16:44you Las Vegas in them have a there's a point where you get to
- 16:47choose and then everything just And it feels a lot like that.
- 16:52Like II haven't had one. I've got a craft store a few
- 16:55months. I'm okay, but I feel it's quite
- 16:57a crush. I did a video on it because I
- 16:59didn't know what to do and I was supposed to have a video about
- 17:00day and I was like I can do so I just completely honest so I went
- 17:03out and I tried to go for my morning run which I was trying
- 17:06to and I my feet couldn't carry me.
- 17:09It just stopped and then I have no motivation.
- 17:12I just got on the couch and curled up in a ball and I just
- 17:15sat there. No TV no nothing and just some
- 17:18butter despair. There and it was the result of
- 17:20the fact that I've been doing well tonight hopeful of stuff
- 17:23and when I cleared everything and have nothing else lined up a
- 17:27crashes Wheatley crash and so now I have to spread my workout
- 17:31on the things that I do in the event of so, I have something to
- 17:34kind of always do and all sounds weird, but that's the only way
- 17:37to stop stop. Oh crashing and I know you might
- 17:39sound like you're gonna just completely blown up I'd been out
- 17:43if I knew there was like an indefinite ethnics replicate
- 17:46Evans done on it's more of them nothing like I understand that
- 17:50depression that actually happens a lot.
- 17:51I mean, you know, most people understand that like after you
- 17:54have I don't know a wedding or whatever like you've been
- 17:57spending a year planning and then all of a sudden like
- 17:59there's nothing to do you do fall into a little bit of a
- 18:01depression and it's of course you burnt yourself out you're
- 18:04exhausted to so that completely it's because you like engage
- 18:08emotionally because you're passionate about it and then
- 18:10when you when you've got no engagement emotionally,
- 18:12especially who lost between them.
- 18:13I'm thinking uh-oh and then you get this burst of energy and
- 18:16stuff and you've got no way to directly So I found that like
- 18:20when I have this issue I trying to make videos I try and make
- 18:24music or I try and think of something like awesome.
- 18:26I could make like I don't know. I just it's helpful to it's kind
- 18:30of like monkey bars. You want to know that there's
- 18:32another Monkey Bar in front of you to cook to grab onto and I
- 18:36know Edward Edwards talked about this to like he has a hard time
- 18:40finishing a project if he doesn't have something else
- 18:42lined up, so it's interesting. Yeah, no and it's super fun and
- 18:46not people speak to have the same issues, especially with
- 18:48like on It's also always at this is relatable.
- 18:52And then they at least I was almost totally freak.
- 18:54No, no, not at all. But you know what?
- 18:57I want to comment on that for a second because the fact that
- 19:00either of us have internalized the idea that were weird or a
- 19:02freak in some way when it's actually completely typical for
- 19:05what we struggle with for our conditions.
- 19:08It's interesting that we still can sometimes use that language.
- 19:11Yeah. I'm so used to it see and I
- 19:14always get told off as a woman. I know who's got some news
- 19:16that's better syndrome and she always has reached.
- 19:19Stop saying that you weird and what sorry, I was just um
- 19:21apologizing. I'm like, yeah you internalize
- 19:24it. I know, you know, I know on the
- 19:25way to get diagnosed Edward was like look, I'm just lazy but you
- 19:30know you internalize these I did it when I was on my second.
- 19:32I was like sweat dripping off of eating all these weirdos ask me
- 19:36questions. I was like, oh my God, like I
- 19:38want to go home like which is horrible like these people
- 19:40diving into your life. I it's the worst like this and
- 19:45the reason why this is interesting when I meet
- 19:47specialist with autism Freeze a freeze up at all to do because
- 19:51they know more about who I am that I do in terms of like how I
- 19:54am cost medical. Clinically.
- 19:56This isn't that nuts nuts feeling like also but I didn't
- 20:00even think about that old. Were you when you're diagnosed.
- 20:02So I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome specifically
- 20:05when I was 26, which is like but I thought I would say I have a
- 20:10serious diagnosis fire like dyslexia are like was near me
- 20:13and like a depression anxiety and phobia like all these Things
- 20:19like over shyness. Like I don't know personality
- 20:23disorder may be as well 50 years and years and years because the
- 20:26appointment of like, oh, this is bizarre foods.
- 20:31So my and then I went for a proper I went to a specialist in
- 20:33HD and they were like, oh that's supposed to be an idiot.
- 20:37He's like an Asperger's Syndrome is technically an outdated term
- 20:40but you still identify as having Asperger's Syndrome because
- 20:42that's how you were diagnosed. Yeah.
- 20:44I mean like those that are closest to my heart because I
- 20:48don't feel like Is anything wrong with in Asperger syndrome?
- 20:50I feel like I'm proud to say I was pretty soon but you know,
- 20:53it's it's around. I think it's a personal choice
- 20:55as well. And I don't judge anybody for
- 20:56using a different term. Everyone must really important
- 20:59question. What do you do for downtime?
- 21:01What do you do to relax? I mean like I find relaxing
- 21:04super difficult because like I always want to be doing
- 21:07something so my therapist and my girlfriend like once you what
- 21:11you enjoy what do you do when you're not wanting to work and I
- 21:13like I like two things right? I love learning about like crazy
- 21:18stuff maybe wash and dry. Entry on the Civil War could be
- 21:20watching a documentary on the prohibition of alcohol in
- 21:22America and like this kind of stuff really gets me going.
- 21:26So I just love learning about it.
- 21:27But then the other thing I do maybe I'll watch a video
- 21:31teaching me how to code on a website or maybe a video
- 21:34teaching you how to make a certain type of computer or
- 21:37something that I can find us educational because to me my
- 21:40downtime is learning stuff. So I love to learn so I relax by
- 21:44learning stuff and it might sound really weird people but I
- 21:48mean recently Like I like learning about science as well.
- 21:50So because after my degree, I was like, oh not learning
- 21:53anything. So I still watch videos of
- 21:55chemistry, which is really sad, but I love it.
- 21:58I get it. I mean, I do the same thing I'm
- 22:00learning and to me to me relaxing is learning something
- 22:02that I don't have to learn like nobody's telling me you have to
- 22:05study this for tests or whatever.
- 22:07Like I just fall down the Wikipedia or something.
- 22:09Yeah, that's like the thing is like it's nobody's fault me to
- 22:14do so, you're going to enjoy what you're learning is.
- 22:16It's just something fun ahead of it.
- 22:18Did you ever Like you need to recharge like you need to like
- 22:20you need a break from input. I mean yes through sensory input
- 22:26but never through like beta um, like I might like learning.
- 22:31I don't know. I always feel like my brain has
- 22:33to have to learn things to just keep it at like a stable level
- 22:37like a you know, right it's like critical mass or if it drops
- 22:41below depression has to stay at this level and topping it up
- 22:43with with educational content is how it is up socially, I can't
- 22:48explain why You wouldn't enjoy like a walk in a peaceful
- 22:51garden. Well, I do but short-lived or
- 22:55like a like at I'll maybe I don't know.
- 22:59I don't like golf or huge huge tax look like there's my
- 23:01girlfriend a family love coffee huge hexagon are fake after
- 23:04about 45 minutes after meat done.
- 23:06Right? I have to be doing something
- 23:08super productive or another and I love to like I love going
- 23:12running. I love like meditation and
- 23:14things like that, but the problem with it is that I have
- 23:17to do it control times like so Run, I do like 2 and 1/2 miles
- 23:20It's gotta be done within like 25 to 30 minutes and then I'll
- 23:23like meditate for a little bit. But then the rest of have to be
- 23:26productive. I don't know why it's like this
- 23:28really amazing. Is it that he's like going for a
- 23:31run and meditating is not productive enough for me your
- 23:34machine. Oh my God, I just feel like
- 23:36those that those things those things meet.
- 23:37I like life routine. So I just do those things every
- 23:40day. Not that that's been and then on
- 23:41to the good stuff with Congress because for me it is about it's
- 23:45about progress that you could feel like I'm like, I'm moving
- 23:47forward. Yeah.
- 23:48Yes. Absolutely.
- 23:49I have this like thing with like you'll never reach the state of
- 23:52perfect, but you always have to always strive for it because if
- 23:55you don't like I say if you don't like increase your just a
- 23:58client and the client is looking thick and you'll just do my
- 24:01people get too complacent when people get complacent they
- 24:03started the client finest. Nope.