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THE BLOODY BEETROOTS Return: BOB RIFO Fills In The Blanks · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I am Bob from the Bloody Beat Riots, Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So much and Look Forever. Part one feels deeply personal.
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  Speaker 2: Was there a specific moment or event that made you
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  Speaker 2: realize this EP had to exist right now rather than later?
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  Speaker 1: Not really, I think enough. For me, it's the Bloody
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  Speaker 1: Beatriots is always evolving. And always say that this music
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  Speaker 1: is a piece of my life because it represents exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So that's a really important part of
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  Speaker 1: my life. But it was a long part of my
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  Speaker 1: life because after Covid I started writing this album. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a long, long journey and that's why we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to split it into two parts. But yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: a harness representation of my life and it's all there
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  Speaker 1: for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. I can't believe it's been over twenty
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  Speaker 2: years for you too. I remember when I was back
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  Speaker 2: in school. I mean, this was a long time ago,
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  Speaker 2: but hearing war with Stay Biochi and it was just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 1: It's nah so crazy, you know me. For me, it's
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  Speaker 1: like yesterday I didn't even see you know, the time
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  Speaker 1: passing by. That's like, how did that happen? I'm still
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  Speaker 1: here doing what I love after twenty years. How, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man, I'm like, I'm shocked myself.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any advice to anyone starting out in
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  Speaker 2: the industry?
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  Speaker 1: Discipline? Discipline is the only world in practice that will
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  Speaker 1: give you, like a long term career. I learned it
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  Speaker 1: the hard way, you know. The first three years of
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  Speaker 1: the Bloody Beaders were very, very crazy until I got
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  Speaker 1: really really sick, you know, physically and mentally. So I
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  Speaker 1: needed to start working on myself to get out of that,
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  Speaker 1: you know void. And the only thing that saved me
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  Speaker 1: was discipline. Yeah, that's that's what That's my advice, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful And you said that this project is your life.
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  Speaker 2: If each era of the Bloody Patriots represented a chapter
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  Speaker 2: in your autobiography, what chapter are we.
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  Speaker 1: Entering with this new APEI this is the most talkative
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  Speaker 1: time frame of the Bloody beat Riots because back in
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  Speaker 1: the days, if you remember, I use not to speak
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  Speaker 1: English at all. So this is like the first time,
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  Speaker 1: actually I'm opening up about my music, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: first time I'm talking about my music and explaining layers,
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  Speaker 1: explaining why I did write that and all that jazz.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, this is the bloody beds and this purest
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  Speaker 1: form because I'm you know, I'm finally able to express
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  Speaker 1: myself verbally and tell the people what it is all about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don how long did it take you to learn English?
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  Speaker 1: A lot Italians don't speak English, know of Italians don't
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  Speaker 1: speak English. So it took me a long time. And
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  Speaker 1: then I started doing this and you know, started learning
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  Speaker 1: it in twenty thirteen watching Dye Murphy Billy Use on Netlex.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I bring it out the full comedy and
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  Speaker 1: stand up comedy, and I started learning from Attie. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that's where I started.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. That's a good way to learn. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to do that with Italian.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't have like many many funny guys
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  Speaker 1: and maybe some Italian American movie like you know, The
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  Speaker 1: god Father and sing and then.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's so awesome and look a world that rewards
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  Speaker 2: conformity is a powerful statement. What's one moment in your
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  Speaker 2: career We're staying true to yourself cost you something? But
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  Speaker 2: you'd make the same choice again.
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  Speaker 1: Oh always, always, you know. The music is the music.
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  Speaker 1: The music business is another thing. You know, every time
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  Speaker 1: I got the label and all that door say, this
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  Speaker 1: is amazing. What am I gonna do with this? You know,
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  Speaker 1: because it's so diverse, there's so many genres, and but
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  Speaker 1: that's how I function, you know, And I always tell man,
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  Speaker 1: there's gotta be one single you can pick up and
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  Speaker 1: move with that, but the rest leave it to me.
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  Speaker 1: But I always make the same choice because that's the
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  Speaker 1: way I talk. That's the way I express myself, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, to be honest to your music and
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  Speaker 1: to yourself is to express what you feel. So I
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  Speaker 1: always need to make that choice. You know. Am I
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  Speaker 1: going to compromise? I don't even know how to compromise,
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  Speaker 1: you know. If you tell me, yo, Bob, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: let's produce a pop song, I don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: do it. Because the way I make music is through
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  Speaker 1: a human experience. So if I have a problem human experience,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not gonna be able to do it. If not,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that also this is just a question aside
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  Speaker 2: from everything with how you wear a mask? Is that
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  Speaker 2: because you'd rather focus on the music rather than your
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  Speaker 2: self identity.
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  Speaker 1: There's two reasons. One because I want to protect my privacy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was born in a little town fifty people.
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  Speaker 1: I love my community. I love the privilege to get
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  Speaker 1: out on Saturday morning and have a coffee with my friends.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be alienated by success or fame
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. And if I don't protect that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to express myself to
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  Speaker 1: the music. You know. I need that. I need that.
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  Speaker 1: The second reason is because the mask could serve you
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  Speaker 1: as a catalyst, so it can bring people attention to
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  Speaker 1: your music. You know, whoever can bring the bloody where
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  Speaker 1: the blood beaders mask can be Bob, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. Get people to the music, and
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  Speaker 1: that's it. It's it iconic. Yeah it could be, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, the main thing is here is to bring
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  Speaker 1: your attention.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, beautiful. And you've evolved massively since two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and five. What's one boundary you broke early on that
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  Speaker 2: you feel paved the way for today's electronic.
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  Speaker 1: Artists not to have any boundaries.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love just go with it. No rules, No rules
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  Speaker 1: have been you know, repeating that since Stag one, And
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  Speaker 1: that's the way it should be from my point of view.
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  Speaker 1: Conformity never work for me and will never work. So
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what I do, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you said you come from quite a small
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  Speaker 2: village there. What was the electronic music scene like for
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  Speaker 2: you growing up? How did you get into it? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Well, illegal raves all that kind of stuff, because being
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  Speaker 1: in a small, small town, we need to be creative
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  Speaker 1: on how to import that kind of culture and create
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  Speaker 1: a little scene. So leg raves everything was on the streets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that that's that's how we built our own scene
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  Speaker 1: and and started from there, and eventually it expanded and
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  Speaker 1: it became like a glob of phenomena. But yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my town is fifty thousand people, not many of that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a mindset that doesn't allow people to
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  Speaker 1: listen to a certain type of music. It's very traditional.
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  Speaker 1: So we're like a couple of guys, you know, playing
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  Speaker 1: our own records or playing like whatever we liked, and
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  Speaker 1: we thought that was cool, and then eventually that translated
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  Speaker 1: to something bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it took you around the world as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, you know, I never expected that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: think about it. The Bloody Beetles was a side project
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  Speaker 1: of a punk band which was called the Balbricoskan. I
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  Speaker 1: just started, you know, producing electro records just because, just
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  Speaker 1: for the sake of it, just you know, because I
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  Speaker 1: thought punk was cool. But I saw the electroni music
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  Speaker 1: coming in and I say, okay, let's blend this together.
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  Speaker 1: It might be my language. Yeah, and it went like vertical.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. And speaking of you know that punk influence
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  Speaker 2: as well, who's your major influence nowadays and who was
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  Speaker 2: a major influence for you back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Prodigy are still, you know, my main
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  Speaker 1: inspiration in terms of electronic music as much as Sex
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  Speaker 1: Pistols on the punk side. But there's so many nass
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  Speaker 1: so I can you know, mention the Chemical Brothers on
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  Speaker 1: the electronic side, but also Black Flag and Fugazi on
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  Speaker 1: the punk side. But there's also classical music that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it brings in so back Chopine and Motort and Beethoven
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  Speaker 1: are like my main guys in terms of like arrangements,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, they still resonate with me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And was there a first instrument that you picked
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  Speaker 2: up when you were younger? Guitar?
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  Speaker 1: Guitar? I started guitar, started guitar when I was nine
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  Speaker 1: classical guitar and so vego and I quit when I
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  Speaker 1: was fourteen, you know, adolescens and all that stuff of
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  Speaker 1: one half and liked the guitar. I started learning all
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  Speaker 1: the instruments step by step.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, awesome. And collaboration has been a reoccurring theme
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  Speaker 2: in your career, from Cbioki to other punk legends. What
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  Speaker 2: do you look for in an artist before deciding there's
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  Speaker 2: someone you want to create chaos with?
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  Speaker 1: So the thing is, I never collaborate with people that
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  Speaker 1: don't have my vision or I don't feel as you
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  Speaker 1: collaborate with you know, let me explain this. The collaboration
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  Speaker 1: never starts in the studio. You know, I want to
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  Speaker 1: meet the guy. I want to have dinner or lunch
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  Speaker 1: and if I feel there's something that might be translate
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  Speaker 1: in music. But at that point, if that translators in
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  Speaker 1: my brain, I'm already processing title of the song, structor
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  Speaker 1: of the song, key reef mood. And for me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I always say that collaborations are human experiences. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the reason why I always say, you know, forever in particular,
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  Speaker 1: it's a representation of my life because it's it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a you know, the harness mirror of what has
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  Speaker 1: been happening in my life so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So you really all about human experiences?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you really truly like to get to know the
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  Speaker 2: person before you go in do.
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  Speaker 1: A project with them exactly. And I also take notes.
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  Speaker 1: I want to show you this. Yeah, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: the moment that you know a step in, I take
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  Speaker 1: a lot of notes, take a lot of notes, and
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  Speaker 1: before I leave, like the inner lunch, I have distructor
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  Speaker 1: already mapped down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You call me crazy. I don't know what happens in
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  Speaker 1: my brain, but that's the way it works.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm very much the same. I like to
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  Speaker 2: get things down and I always have. I like to
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  Speaker 2: see in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's and sometimes it doesn't even get released somethings.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like that experience. It it stays as a line,
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  Speaker 1: it stays as a dem and that collaboration may not happen.
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  Speaker 1: But if it happens and it gets released, I'm okay.
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  Speaker 1: If it doesn't, I'm okay either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you think of the craziest experience that's ever
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  Speaker 2: happened to you whilst playing at a festival.
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  Speaker 1: I think probably was twenty thirteen. It was Big Day out.
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  Speaker 1: I was presenting the Bloody Readers live for the first
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  Speaker 1: time My Love with a whole new band, a whole
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  Speaker 1: new responsibility, and I got really, really, really sick and
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  Speaker 1: the only way to stay up on stage was to
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  Speaker 1: inject be twelve in vain and you stay up like
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  Speaker 1: for an hour and half. That probably was the craziest
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  Speaker 1: because I had to do it like for like what day.
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  Speaker 1: There are two weekends, so that was my condition of
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  Speaker 1: that time. I don't think I can talk about that,
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  Speaker 1: but that was like fucking crazy, you know, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine, And it would have been really hot
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  Speaker 2: as well, probably yeah.
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  Speaker 1: With the mask and you know, dancing and it was
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  Speaker 1: it was like definitely something crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Jane, Well you pulled it off though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's my job.
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  Speaker 2: That's wicked. And after nearly two decades of pushing boundaries,
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  Speaker 2: what's still scares or challenges you creatively?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing scares me really, But what challenges mean is to
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  Speaker 1: stay in the business when the business is completely broken nowadays,
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  Speaker 1: so you need to fight really really hard to find
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  Speaker 1: your you know, spot to be seen. And it's a
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  Speaker 1: constant challenge. But I'm here to fight and my team
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  Speaker 1: is here to fight. Or yeah, we fight really really
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  Speaker 1: hard to be here. Yeah, yeah, definitely that is challenging.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, for sure. And speaking of creating this new apey,
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  Speaker 2: were there some challenges there on the record or did
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  Speaker 2: everything come together? Quite shamelessly, there.
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  Speaker 1: Were a couple of songs that I wanted to release
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't make it. But I think the hardest
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  Speaker 1: part was to no, not really, I don't think there
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  Speaker 1: was nothing was hard because all the people that I
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  Speaker 1: talked to when I wanted to collaborate with them, they
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  Speaker 1: were all enthusiastic and they wanted to meet me. So,
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  Speaker 1: for example, we made no Face. I flew all the
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: way down to Long Beach. We had an amazing taco
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  Speaker 1: lunch that day, and we started recording and it was
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  Speaker 1: a crazy experience. You know. I gotta say that all
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  Speaker 1: the people on this record are amazing humans and I
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  Speaker 1: was blessed to witness that, and it was such a
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  Speaker 1: pleasure to have their words and their voices atop my music.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's so lovely. And is there anyone in the
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  Speaker 2: future that you'd absolutely love to collaborate with?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to think about it because
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  Speaker 1: now you know, we're gonna release Forever Part two in
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  Speaker 1: the next like ten months. Yeah, and my brain is
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  Speaker 1: just focused on a names, this experience. I'm very into
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  Speaker 1: this collaborations for part two, so I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: lose the focus and move like, oh, I want to
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  Speaker 1: collaborate with that now. I want to nas their characters,
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  Speaker 1: want tons this human experience that they gave me. And
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  Speaker 1: then when this cycle is done, I will you know,
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  Speaker 1: I will probably think about no collaborations because what I
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  Speaker 1: think now is not what I'm going to think and
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  Speaker 1: like twelve months from now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely that makes sense. And is there anything
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  Speaker 2: you tell yourself when you first started Body Beatroots? Maybe
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  Speaker 2: a of advice that you tell yourself back in the.
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  Speaker 1: Day, Ah, be honest, always be honest, Always listen to
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  Speaker 1: your gods because your gods never fail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. And you often talk about rebellion as authenticity.
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  Speaker 2: What does rebellion look like in twenty twenty five? For you? Musically, culturally,
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  Speaker 2: and personally.
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  Speaker 1: Means getting out of the conformity. You know, I have
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  Speaker 1: the feeling that the more we will leave these years,
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  Speaker 1: the less we're able to express ourselves for real, there's
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  Speaker 1: like a standard thing that we need to fit in,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to fit there. I want to
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  Speaker 1: be like a voice that comes from from you know,
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  Speaker 1: far out from that circle. So that, yeah, that is
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  Speaker 1: a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wonderful. And how have your crowds changed over the
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  Speaker 2: years and what stayed exactly the same?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that the culture have changed, you
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  Speaker 1: know constantly. I still see like multiple you know, characters
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  Speaker 1: all diverse. What I can say is Bloody Beeato has
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  Speaker 1: always embraced diversity since the very very beginning for the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the project because it's so wide in terms
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  Speaker 1: of genres. So that still resonates with people. People that
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  Speaker 1: are diverse, you know, they go to a Bloody Beader's
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  Speaker 1: Live or a Bloody Beats DJs at the event. That
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  Speaker 1: never changed. But of course, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people grown and now they have families that have kids.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm actually meeting up with a new generation of
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  Speaker 1: people now and and I feel their love. It's a
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  Speaker 1: different love. It's it's you know, it has changed, but
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  Speaker 1: not in a in a bad way. It's just different,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And and the thing that happened this year.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of love. I've never seen so
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: much love all around the Bloody Beat. It's even physical love,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people hugging me, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of new young people you know, coming there, and it
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  Speaker 1: was just fucking incredible.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I just went back from South Africa and an incredible
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  Speaker 1: experience with the whole generation that I didn't know, and
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  Speaker 1: just a lot of love. I was impressed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, that's so lovely. And is there one thing
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  Speaker 2: that you can think of that's the coolest thing, all
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  Speaker 2: weirdest thing that a fan has given you.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot tell that's okay, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, fair enough, extreme, Yeah, that's all right, fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: And what's one moment from the last twenty years that
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  Speaker 2: made you realize, yes, this project really means something to people.
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  Speaker 1: I think I met a guy, a couple of guys
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  Speaker 1: in San Diego this year. They were like around their thirties,
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  Speaker 1: and a particular song called chronic because of a fall
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  Speaker 1: in love. You know, this guy told me that, man,
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  Speaker 1: this this song saved me from addiction and everything. You know,
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  Speaker 1: every time I listen to the song, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of the place I was and how this
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: song grown on me and helped me to get out
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  Speaker 1: of addiction. So that was like a moment that I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing something something good here. Yeah, you know, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a very crucial moment and it happened
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  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 2: That's huge. That's huge. And how do you how do
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  Speaker 2: you feel? How does it make you feel knowing that
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  Speaker 2: your songs have that ability on people?
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  Speaker 1: It makes me feel that we're all a big family.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: If my songs are able to heal, uh, that's incredible
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: because I heal myself through my songs.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I always had like anger management problems and the only
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  Speaker 1: way to redirect that energy was to create songs. And
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  Speaker 1: the you know, that process heals me every day. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the more I create, the more I think
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: about it, you know, the better I sleep at peace
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of night. And if that process heals other people as well,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that's that's more than enough, you know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Oh Lovely, it sounds like you have gone through so
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: much growth from when you first started out.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, indeed, I'm being a fan
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of growing, you know, I know, vot I want to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: be stuck. I just want to be a bad person
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: every day, So that takes a lot of work. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I use my medium to work. And sometimes, you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: songs connect, sometimes they don't, but when they do, you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: they make me feel like, Okay, this process of growing
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is actually translating to other people and you know, it's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it's incredible.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And do you find that you're a bit of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a perfectionist with laying down tracks or are you able
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to listen to something and go, no, it's perfect, let's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: send it out, let's work on the next one. Oh.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I think that a track will never be perfect. I'm
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: now looking for perfection. I'm looking for a human error.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for everything that is authentic and feels real.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, a demo take it it's the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: final song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and want honesty, you know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And is there any plans that you know of
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you coming to Australia anytime soon?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love to have so many
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: friends in Australia and you guys been loving the Bloody
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Beats for such a long time. It would be awesome.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope so I want to go
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: back because the DJ is a Bloody Beaters live band.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but hopefully with bread Jesus and Jesus
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: will help.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but it'd be amazing. We really hope you do.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And congratulations again on twenty plus years and on this
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: new album. We're loving it. Thank you so much for
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: your time today, Thank you, thank you,