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Phillies slay Dodgers, $500mil Vlad, Pirates opener mess, Giants & Rangers soaring · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Did I play them like a fiddle? Because I think
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  Speaker 1: he did. I think he crushed. I think him and
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  Speaker 1: his agent crushes with the way they handled this.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way that Ken Rosenthal put it. He
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  Speaker 2: was like, are we experiencing the Winter Meetings in terms
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  Speaker 2: of money being given out right now? Because in the
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  Speaker 2: past week and a half it's extension season. During the
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  Speaker 2: first week and a half of the year, you got
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  Speaker 2: bron Kratz and Prazinski. Today, let's go right to it, though,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do an instant charge of the mound
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  Speaker 2: because our first guest is coming on much sooner due
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  Speaker 2: to time constraints. So let's do this. Let's charge.
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  Speaker 3: Let's charge about.
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  Speaker 2: Fourteen years, five hundred million dollars for Vladimir Gerrera Junior.
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  Speaker 2: It broke late last night, Ken Rosenthal on the story
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  Speaker 2: there is as far as I saw, no deferrals, So
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  Speaker 2: it's just real money. And it's the second most money
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  Speaker 2: ever made by a Major League Baseball player AJ because
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  Speaker 2: Otani has seven hundred but net present in value, it's
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  Speaker 2: more like in the for sixty range. What did you
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  Speaker 2: think of this one? We had talked about numbers like
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  Speaker 2: this for a while. Ken has been on this story
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  Speaker 2: for probably the past two months or so.
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  Speaker 1: What I think about it. I think they played this perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Glad I've been saying this as soon
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  Speaker 1: as his uh what was it is? His deadline, his
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  Speaker 1: so called deadline came in passed and he's like, look,
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  Speaker 1: all I want is fourteen years and five hundred million,
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  Speaker 1: and he basically put it in the team's lap. And
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  Speaker 1: with Atkins and Shapiro being possibly on the hot seat,
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  Speaker 1: I think that they Wow, Yeah, he played it perfectly
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  Speaker 1: and he got exactly what he wanted. And good for
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays fans, good for Vlad Junior, good for
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  Speaker 1: Vlad Junior's agency, but wow, did he play them like
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  Speaker 1: a fiddle?
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  Speaker 4: Good for good for the Blue Jays, good for the
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  Speaker 4: Blue Jays in just the overall sense of this country
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  Speaker 4: following this team. You have a player that you can sell.
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  Speaker 4: He's homegrown, actually Canadian citizen too, being born in Montreal.
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  Speaker 4: Like there's so much that goes behind him. Oh, and
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  Speaker 4: he's a really good player. He's going to be an
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  Speaker 4: MVP candidate for the next eight to ten years during
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  Speaker 4: this contract, and this will draw other people to come
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  Speaker 4: to Toronto to play with Vlad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, you got to
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  Speaker 2: have somebody that you latch onto, and why not make
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  Speaker 2: it flatty Junior age is a huge factor when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to free agency. Some people are probably looking this
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  Speaker 2: thinking it's crazy, but aj the years stretch out so
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  Speaker 2: that the average annual value doesn't get crazy. It's about
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  Speaker 2: thirty five point seven million dollars per year, and that
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  Speaker 2: enables the Blue Jays, of course, to dance around the
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  Speaker 2: luxury attacks, the soft cap as we like to call
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  Speaker 2: it sometimes even though it's not a real cap. But
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  Speaker 2: for the Blue Jays, they might go through some rough
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  Speaker 2: times coming up. Their farm system is not rated well.
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  Speaker 2: They might not have a good year this year, coming
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  Speaker 2: off a bad year last year. There's going to be
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  Speaker 2: money off the books that could include Bobachhett unless they
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  Speaker 2: plan on signing him to an extension as well. It
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  Speaker 2: is really helpful to be able to bridge the gap
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  Speaker 2: from pretty good contention years to the next one with
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  Speaker 2: Laddie Junior.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed. But here's the thing is again, they had to
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  Speaker 1: sign him. They had to. They absolutely, Ross Atkins and
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  Speaker 1: Shapiro had to sign Vladdi Junior. And he knew it
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  Speaker 1: and that goes back to that, Yes, their farm system
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  Speaker 1: might not be great. Yes, he's might ridge the gap
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  Speaker 1: to the next thing, but he's gonna have to play
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  Speaker 1: through some lean years. But he knew that the Blue
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  Speaker 1: Jays organization had to sign him and could not let
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  Speaker 1: him hit free agency. So, like I said, he did
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  Speaker 1: this perfectly. Oh there's a there's a deadline, and I
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  Speaker 1: won't sign passed. Well, he signed passed that deadline when
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  Speaker 1: the numbers got to what he wanted. And as soon
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  Speaker 1: as he came out and said, well here's what I want.
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  Speaker 1: I won five hundred million. I can get more nut
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  Speaker 1: on the free agent market. Fourteen years. I could probably
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  Speaker 1: get that more than that on the free jamarket. The
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays were like, hmm, fourteen years, five hundred how
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  Speaker 1: about this one. He's like done, take it, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: check check. So, yeah, there are some things he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to play through. Yes, players might want to come
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  Speaker 1: play with him, but listen Flatt junior, and you know
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  Speaker 1: he's a Canadian born hero. So the Blue Jays finally
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  Speaker 1: got their Canadian born star long term.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for some people that answered back to us
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  Speaker 2: last time we talked about this topic before, he signed
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  Speaker 2: maybe a week and a half two weeks ago, and said, oh,
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  Speaker 2: he's not He's not a marketing draw. Sure, you might
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  Speaker 2: not get the same marketing dollars and crazy company deals
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  Speaker 2: that you would with shohe Otani and the Dodgers. Nobody's
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  Speaker 2: touching that. He definitely is a draw. You're a casual
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  Speaker 2: fan in Toronto in twenty twenty seven and they're not good,
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  Speaker 2: they will still go because they want to go see
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  Speaker 2: Vladdie Junior. He will put butts in seats. He is
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  Speaker 2: going to be, you know, Canada's son of baseball for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. Now, let's bring in Chaida Beati, Sportsnet
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  Speaker 2: reporter on the scene with this as well. Hi, great
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you. Thanks for the time. What did
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  Speaker 2: you think when you saw a break and finally happen
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  Speaker 2: and the blue Jays get there, big, big, big player
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  Speaker 2: that they've homegrown to stay here for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: his career.
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  Speaker 5: Well a long time coming, and I agree with a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the points that you guys made that this
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  Speaker 5: was going to be a foundational type of deal for
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  Speaker 5: the Blue Jays and if this didn't happen, given what's
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  Speaker 5: happening with their expiring core and everything that's coming up,
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  Speaker 5: the gap that they have in their farm system between
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  Speaker 5: the next potential carrying type player first rounder from a
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  Speaker 5: couple of years ago, guy named Argie Namala, he was
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  Speaker 5: they were going to be in pretty bleak times and
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  Speaker 5: they've we've seen them have trouble attracting elite free agents.
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  Speaker 3: They've certainly gotten a lot of them.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that narrative is a little bit exaggerated.
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  Speaker 5: But how were you going to get another player like
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  Speaker 5: Vladimir Guerrero Junior or like a Bobashett if you don't
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  Speaker 5: sign your own guys?
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that this has gone.
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  Speaker 5: Through a lot of twists and turns. This has not
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  Speaker 5: been an easy process for either site. But them ending
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  Speaker 5: up at this point was the place where it was
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  Speaker 5: most logical because this is what vladimirka Errol Junior wanted,
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  Speaker 5: this is what the Blue Jays needed, and ultimately was
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  Speaker 5: just about how do they find that path to one another?
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  Speaker 4: Do we know who was kind of in a way,
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  Speaker 4: do you know if ownership was in the way of
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  Speaker 4: getting this done sooner or if this was like Ross
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  Speaker 4: Atkins said earlier, well the value is there. We might
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  Speaker 4: have to go over what we value him as well.
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  Speaker 5: I think there are a few ways to look at that.
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  Speaker 5: First off, this is not happening without full ownership support, right,
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  Speaker 5: No executive is committing half a billion dollars to somebody
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  Speaker 5: without the ownership really driving the bus on it. And
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  Speaker 5: I do think that was key here that there was
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  Speaker 5: ownership involvement to help push it across the finish line.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, you can look at this and say,
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  Speaker 5: were the Blue Jays just playing this out waiting to
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  Speaker 5: see is not really going to hold on that line?
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  Speaker 5: Is he really committed to that? But I think Vladimirgerre
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  Speaker 5: Junior understood his situation where you know, he he understood
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  Speaker 5: that the Blue Jays to some degree needed him in
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  Speaker 5: a way that he didn't necessarily need them. He wanted them,
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  Speaker 5: but he didn't necessarily need them quite in the way
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  Speaker 5: they needed him, and he could hold true to the
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  Speaker 5: number that he felt was important to him, which was
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  Speaker 5: not that which was that five hundred million.
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  Speaker 3: So I think if you're a.
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  Speaker 5: Team and you've got the time, you're going to say, well,
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  Speaker 5: let's see if the player really hold true or will
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  Speaker 5: he take four?
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  Speaker 3: Will he take four to twenty five?
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  Speaker 5: Will he take four fifty and a certain point you realize, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: the player's not budgeting.
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  Speaker 3: Are we doing this? Yes or no?
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  Speaker 5: And at that point the Blue Jays made the decision,
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  Speaker 5: Yes we have to do this, and here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I mean he laid it out for him. He
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  Speaker 1: laid it out for him perfect. He's like, oh, five
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  Speaker 1: hundred million, fourteen, oh perfect, That's what they ended up.
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  Speaker 1: So there was no was he gonna take for twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: But what I want to know is what's the what's
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  Speaker 1: the blue jayfan reaction to this? Because this is a
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  Speaker 1: big deal for the blue Jay fan and there's a
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  Speaker 1: ton of Blue Jays fan not only in Toronto but
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  Speaker 1: all of Canada. What's their reaction? Is this a celebration of, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we finally locked up our guy that we've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about for years now.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I've been on the road in New York over
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  Speaker 5: the weekend in Boston, so I've only seen what's on
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  Speaker 5: social media and through people in my own personal network.
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  Speaker 5: But I got a lot of very excited texts and
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  Speaker 5: tweet messages over the past day and a half.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I think fans are smart.
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  Speaker 5: They understood where the Blue Jays are in this cycle,
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  Speaker 5: and what's at stake for them this season, and where
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  Speaker 5: things are at, and that there isn't another Vladimir Guerrero
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  Speaker 5: Junior imminently set to arrive in the farm system.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think if you look back to the Donaldson, Batista
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  Speaker 5: and Carnacion era, you know, towards the latter part of that,
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  Speaker 5: the Blue Jays had Guerrero and Bishett coming, and people
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  Speaker 5: understood that those two guys were going to be pretty
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  Speaker 5: special players, and so there was a future to cast
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  Speaker 5: forward to, whereas now, you know, Namala's emerged a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: but there isn't that same future that you can cling
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  Speaker 5: to in the farm system and say, Okay, we just
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  Speaker 5: have to get to these guys. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: added to a lot of the anxiety and the angst
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  Speaker 5: around this club. I mean, you think about this competitive
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  Speaker 5: window that they had, you know, in going into the
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  Speaker 5: twenty one season, you could have made the case that
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  Speaker 5: the Blue Jays were situated about as well as any
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  Speaker 5: club in baseball with a you know, several top one
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  Speaker 5: hundred prospects, a good farm system and a young core stretch,
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  Speaker 5: you know, ready to take the step to the next level.
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  Speaker 5: And then they've got zero playoff wins to show for that.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that you factor that in, you factor
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  Speaker 5: in where the farm system is and the fact that
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  Speaker 5: the core is expiring, and it was there's been just
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  Speaker 5: a tremendous feeling of this, oh no, what's next? And
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that is I think that's gone to
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  Speaker 5: a certain degree. There are obviously a lot of challenges.
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  Speaker 5: This Bluegi's team isn't, by any stretch of imagination, out
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  Speaker 5: of the woods, but you can actually see a pathway
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  Speaker 5: to maintaining a competitive window right now.
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  Speaker 3: Where before this extension that was very much in question.
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  Speaker 4: What you talked about nineteen was Cavvisio, you have Bobaschet,
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  Speaker 4: you have Vlad all coming up together. Is there a
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  Speaker 4: chance that they could get Bo on an extension because
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  Speaker 4: he would be coming off his worst year of his
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  Speaker 4: career and they could get it on the cheap and
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  Speaker 4: they could say, hey, you two could stay together forever.
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  Speaker 4: Here's extra money. Then you have some guarantee instead of
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  Speaker 4: leaning on this platform year, that's his free agent year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, this is what I can tell you.
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  Speaker 5: When I had a conversation with Bobachet last September, he
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  Speaker 5: made it pretty clear that he wants to play his
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  Speaker 5: entire career with Vladimir Guerrero Junior. He wants to win
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  Speaker 5: a championship with him, and he wants to do that
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  Speaker 5: in Toronto. Well, now half of that is in place,
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  Speaker 5: and so that possibilities very much in play. And I
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  Speaker 5: think if you're the Blue Jays, you're not just doing
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  Speaker 5: this and being like, Okay, we'll just figure the rest out.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to have to build around him, because you
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  Speaker 5: don't spend this money if you're not going to leverage it.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 5: Does that mean that the Bluejays are going to imminently
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  Speaker 5: sign Bischett. I don't don't think that's necessarily the case.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm in Bo Baschett's camp, I probably want to
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  Speaker 5: wait a little bit, let him show not just to
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  Speaker 5: the Blue Jays but to the rest of baseball that
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  Speaker 5: he is very much the player he's been throughout his
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  Speaker 5: entire career.
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  Speaker 3: And then proceed from there, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But I also think that the number one thing for
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  Speaker 5: Bishett would be to see that there is a pathway
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  Speaker 5: to being a competitive team moving forward, and again with
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  Speaker 5: Guerrero locked into place, that pathway is there now. So
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  Speaker 5: to me an extension is the main ingredients that you
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  Speaker 5: needed to start this extension conversation are now in place
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  Speaker 5: and the Bluejays have a more realistic chance of doing
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  Speaker 5: that right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then I got to ask what's their pathway to success?
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned their farm systems down, Yes they have themala,
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  Speaker 1: but with Lad sign their pitchers are aging and expiring.
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  Speaker 1: George Springer is aging. I know they signed Kirk, but
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  Speaker 1: what's their path to success? Do they have to go
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  Speaker 1: out and spend money? And the one thing about the
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays you already mentioned is they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to overpay to get people. Yeah, it's nice, Oh we
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  Speaker 1: have Lad signed up for fourteen years. That's attractive, But
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  Speaker 1: what's the pathway and how do they get free agents
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  Speaker 1: to come here without overpaying?
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, to some degree, every team has to overpay,
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  Speaker 5: right unless you're in a very specific case where a
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  Speaker 5: player very much wants to go to a specific spot,
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  Speaker 5: you have to be high bid and so it's the
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  Speaker 5: degree of overpay. But I think when the Blue Jays,
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  Speaker 5: and you look at this historically, it holds up. When
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  Speaker 5: the Bluejays are a competitive team, they can get guys.
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  Speaker 5: And whether you go back to the World Series years,
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  Speaker 5: when you go back to the push that they tried
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  Speaker 5: to make in the early two thousand or mid two
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  Speaker 5: thousands of the first decade, some of the period that
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  Speaker 5: they had during their you know, fifteen sixteen Batista and
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  Speaker 5: Carnassio and Donaldson era and more recently with Springer and
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  Speaker 5: Gosman and Bassett, Marcus Simon and others.
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  Speaker 3: They can get guys. That's not the problem.
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  Speaker 5: I think that they've got a significant amount of money
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  Speaker 5: coming off the books this offseason that can be reallocated.
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  Speaker 5: They are going to need some of their young players
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  Speaker 5: to emerge. And you know, their farm system looks to
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  Speaker 5: some degree the way that it does right now because
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  Speaker 5: they had eight pitchers have Tommy don surgery a year ago.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, Alec Minoa could be back by later
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  Speaker 5: in the summer, and so that gives you if he's
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  Speaker 5: back to who he is, a young piece for the
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  Speaker 5: rotation that you can slot back in. Ricky Tiedeman is
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  Speaker 5: one of their top pitching prospects. He's going to be
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  Speaker 5: coming back from Tommy John and he can be a
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  Speaker 5: fant perhaps as soon as next year. So the situation
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  Speaker 5: while tough, they do need some pieces to fall away,
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  Speaker 5: but it's not necessarily as bleak as it looked a
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  Speaker 5: year ago. You know Jake bloss who they picked up
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  Speaker 5: in the Yusai Kakuchi deal last year, that could be
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  Speaker 5: another piece for them moving forward. Certainly there's some big
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  Speaker 5: upside there after he got to the major leagues very
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  Speaker 5: quickly a year ago. So they do have a pathway.
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  Speaker 5: They are going to have to spend more. They are
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  Speaker 5: going to have to be better in terms of their
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  Speaker 5: player development and drafting.
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  Speaker 3: They've made some.
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  Speaker 5: Changes on both those ends coming into this year that
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  Speaker 5: they are hopeful will help them.
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  Speaker 3: And then, look, you spend money, you have money.
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  Speaker 5: You know players are always going to there are always
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  Speaker 5: going to be players that need to take their money
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  Speaker 5: and so make make some good decisions and you can
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  Speaker 5: stay right in the mix.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this front office see another year. Is this a
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  Speaker 4: move that got the job done to secure the elusive
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  Speaker 4: five more years for the next rebuild of every GM
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  Speaker 4: states when they get their job.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the question on everybody's mind right now.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: And look, I think one of the things that you
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: have to give this front office credit for is that
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: they've run the business in a way that they've gotten
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: enough confidence from ownership to push their payroll to, you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: pass to the second CBT threshold. And that's a place that,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: especially with some of the currency challenges that currently exist
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: for the Blue Jays, not a lot of people would
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: have believed that they'd be here even just three four
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: years ago. So that that's telling you that they have
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: some degree of trust from ownership. Ultimately, you know, results
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: have to matter, and I think that that will be
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: definitely factored into what's ahead. You know, Mark Shapiro is
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: on an expiring contract at the end of the season.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Ross Atkins's contract runs through the end of twenty twenty six,
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: and this season in a lot of ways, could turn
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: into a bit of a referendum on their leadership, and
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: so getting Guerrero in place should certainly help them. But ultimately,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: if this season goes awry, after twenty twenty four went awrye,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: there are going to be some very significant questions that
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: they're going to have to address in terms of their stewardship.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Sure, I got asked. It's just because you're in Canada
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and you talked about currency. Does the CBT for Toronto
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: is that in Canadian dollars or is it an American dollars.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: It's a difference, So you know, it was one of
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the other big differences.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't think the Commissioner's office
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: wants our monopoly money.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: They want the stuff that you guys use.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: So look, it's it's been tough and the currency has
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: taken a tremendous beating, and you know, as much hedging
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: as you can do in terms of you know, year
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: long buys and things of that nature, right now, it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: you're pushing towards, you know, something on each dollar that
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: you're spending and the amount of you know, collective revenue
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: that comes in that gets distributed to all thirty clubs,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: that really helps. But you know something in the neighborhood
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: of two thirds of the Blue Jays revenues and Canadian
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: dollars and most of their expenses are an American and
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: so that takes that takes a big chunk, and you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: to some degree, reduces some of their spending power.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Got it. Got it all right. So then I got
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: asked this is or not is did I play them
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: like a fiddle? Because I think he did. I think
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: he crushes. I think him and his agent crushes with
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the way they handle this member soft deadline. I won't
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I won't sign after this soft deadline. Whatever he said,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it was a hard deadline, right, And then Atkins and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Shapiro said, oh, he's not well worth what we think
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he worth. And He's like, well, I'm worth at least
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: five hundred and I'm worth at least fourteen years and
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I'll get more than that on the open market. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: then bam, guess where he ended up fourteen years, five
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: hundred million. And to me, what Eric asked you with about,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Shapiro and Atkins is their unexpiring contracts. They
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: had to get this done because they didn't want to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: be the GM and the president that said we go
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to ownership and say we lost Lad, but we deserve
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: more time, right, so they had to get this done.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I think Vlad played them like a fiddle. And from
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a pr standpoint, Flad used the fans. He used his
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you know, his cache as you know, a Canadian born
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: baseball player and his dad and everything that he had
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: lined up. He used it all perfectly and got a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: great deal for himself.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't disagree with that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: And I actually think one of the more remarkable pieces
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: of this is that for guys who don't go to
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: the open market, it's hard to really max out. And
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe Guerrero on the open market does better
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: than five, but he pretty close to maxed out. You know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: you get the second biggest contract in net present value
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: in baseball history and you don't need twenty nine other
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: clubs to factor in. That's a that's a good piece
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: of work. So I think there's a degree of yes,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Vlad played this well. The circumstances also aligned really well
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: for him to some extent. And then I think the
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: other element is, you know, the Blue Jays, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: part of this may be the way they approached it too,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: where they're like, let's let's test them. You know, you
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: don't know, I mean, how many guys would have the
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: conviction to say, turn down four hundred million or four
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: to twenty five or four fifty and then go into
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: a season and take your chances. I mean, that's you've
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: got to have some pretty big, pretty big stones to
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: take that on. And I think if you're if you're
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: a team, why not press the player and see if
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: he does actually have that conviction.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Is he really willing to.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Risk you know, four hundred for one hundred million more?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And and then at the other.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Pieces, I think, look, especially with the fact that they're
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: under expiring contracts. But you know, when you're talking about
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: a deal that's a decade and a half, it's half
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: a billion dollars. Nobody is doing this without ownership driving
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: the bus, like, you have to have ownership one hundred
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: percent behind this.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: So as much as I to.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Some degree, you know, and I've seen people kind of arguing, oh,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: this was sort of a desperation moved by the by
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: the front office to try and save jobs. You know, nobody,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: no owner is giving out that kind of contract to
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: to uh are allowing that to happen under those circumstances.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: This is something that would be deeply considered multiple levels,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: because you know, even if things go well, the likelihood
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: is that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: This contract outlives this front office.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Suh before we let you go. I have to ask
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the timing of this was strange to me because you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Canada's favorite son, Wayne Gretzky, lost his goal scoring record
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: yesterday and then the Blue Jays sign announced its extension
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: right after that. Was there was that timing on purpose?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And how does Canada feel about them no longer having
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the goalscoring record?
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you got to steal Ovechkin's thunder, right,
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: like you can't have that moment and take the spotlight now.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I you know, there's a lot of excitement around it
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: because this is one of those records that everybody felt
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: was probably going to stand the test of time and
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: it didn't really last as long as you might have
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: expected it to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of excitement around that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: But I think from a timing perspective, you know, all
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: kidding aside, you know, to me, this is definitely something
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: that ideally is done as spring training, and I think
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: you can make the case. Look the Blue Jays, they
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: probably could have gotten this done for less money if
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: they did this in October. And you know, and you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be like second guest guy because
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I was writing about this back last summer that when
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: you're thinking about order of operations, you know, extend trying
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: to extend Vladimir Guerrero Junior in October and then going
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: to the free agent market with him in tow and saying, Okay,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: this is what we are, this is what we got
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: going on, this is how we're moving forward, would have
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: been way better than doing it this way, where you're like, hey,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: come here, come help us try to rebuild after a
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: terrible season, and yeah, we'll figure out vlad and you
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: bow down the road. So I think from an order
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: of operation standpoint, you know, this could have been done
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: in October. This could have done been done before camp
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: or right at the beginning of camp. And you change
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: a lot of conversations, you change a lot of feeling.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You change a lot of narrative by doing that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: It's important that they've gotten it done now, better better
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: now than ever, but earlier better than later as well.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Shh.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I don't want Blue Jays fans to think that we
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: don't know hockey. Wayne is light years above everybody else
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: on points. But he did give up the goal. But
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I get a Vechkin got him on goals, but light
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: years on points, which is goals and assists. For everybody
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: who doesn't follow hockey on the FT network.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Here look at that Cratzy. You're showing that you definitely
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: made the most of your time up north and that
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: you recognized right.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: So good there, listen, don't don't don't let credits, will you.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I know Wayne and I talked to Wayne about this
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and I said, Wayne, oh, he's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: going to get you. He's like, you know what, I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: happy for him. He's like, I got the points record.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's touching that, but he said, records
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: are made to be broken. I'm gonna be there and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be supportive for him. And you know what,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I give Wayne credit. He was there and he stood
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: up and he showed up. And good for Wayne and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: getting brought him some attention, and awesome for Ovechkin. I mean,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know that good, but he seems like an animal.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's uh, it's pretty incredible.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: And yeah, you're right, like Gretzky, the total game and
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: the way that he produced during that era, it was
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: just just been out of some of those point tolls.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: And even like the single season ninety two in one season,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure anyone's getting near that one.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, for me, the reason that you know Ovi's
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: no Wayne is Wayne's friends with Ajobie's not, so he's
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: got work. It is true, Shy, this is awesome. I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: could not agree with you more on the October part too,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that they should have gotten that done earlier. But whatever
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: it's done now they move on. Thank you so much
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: for hopping on quick. Great job reporting on the story too.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You can follow Shy at s. I'd be on Twitter,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: catch them on sports Net. Thank you, Shy.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Get catching up those all those guys. Be well.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Dodgers not going undefeated on the year. Sorry, Dodger fans.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: You don't even have the best record in baseball anymore.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: That belongs to the San Francisco Giants. We'll get to
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: them in a moment. But the heavyweight matchup this weekend
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: was the Phillies, who are now seven and two, taking
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: two out of three against the now nine and two Dodgers. AJ,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you were there, what did you see? Well?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: First of all, John Middleton came on the Phillies show
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and said, we owned the Dodgers last year. If you
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: look at the numbers, I think they took five or
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: six and outscored him like thirty seven to sixteen or
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: something crazy. So the Phillies did own the Dodgers last year.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: They didn't play in the playoffs, obviously because the Phillies
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: got knocked out by the Mets. But I think the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Phillies matchup well with the Dodgers because of their starting
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: pitching and because their lineup can match up well with
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: him now the Dodgers through glass now, Yamamoto and Sazaki.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: JT threw out two guys in the eighth and the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: ninth to end the game. That one I wasn't so
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: sure about. It looked like he might have touched his jersey.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But from this angle, like maybe touched the jersey. I'm
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: not exactly sure if it was him or the win,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but they called him out. But JT the best throwing
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: catcher in baseball, not even close. Listen, I'll say this,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: The Friday night game was a great game. The Saturday
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: game was a really good game. The Phillies just couldn't
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: get a hit with runners of score, position and Cratsey.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: How about this for your guy, Alec Boham. That day
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, he had four bats, he saw five pitches,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and he made five outs, and the Phillies had a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: three pitch inning in the ninth off Tanner Scott with
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a hit. Figure that one out. I don't know that
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen that before in baseball and Major League baseball,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: especially in the ninth inning. But an interesting game. Sazaki
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: made some steps. Talked to Dave Roberts for the game.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: He's like, we just need to see this dude move forward.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: He threw some splits for strike especially in the first inning.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: He gave up two singles Schwerber turners first and third,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: punched out Harper and he threw him splits for strikes
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and that changed the hold of bat for Harper. He
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: gave up a run, but then he was able. I mean,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I know, four innings, but listen, the walks were down,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the stuff was there. Why this dude doesn't throw a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: slider though, I cannot figure out. So I don't know
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that was a good step for the Dodgers scene. But
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the Dodger bullpen is filthy good. The Phillies are really good,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and these two were probably going to be in it
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: at the end. So just because the Phillies took two
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: out of three, don't expect it much anything less because
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: these two teams are really good and really.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Confident and both teams can't hit starting pitching. It's unbelievable.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: You're like, what, how is this possible? Like even when
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: the Phillies got to glass now with a lot of walks,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: you know, it's cold blowing on his hand. What I
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: loved about this series when two teams match up like this,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: sometimes you can look at it and go, well, that
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: would have never happened in the playoffs. They would have
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: never brought so and so in the game. They would
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: have never had this guy hitting like these guys were
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: these they had? They put the best out there. Did
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Wheeler go No, I get it. But the bullpen guys,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: they pushed them hard. I know Romano didn't do great
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: and he's kind of been struggling a little bit, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: you sit there and you go. This was back and forth.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: These are two teams that know how to take advantage
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: of situations. Pajes did what he did in the outfield,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: the Phillies were able to take advantage of it, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: it was back and forth, back and forth. Had they played,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: had they played ten games, it probably would have been
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: five and five. It could easily have been the Dodgers
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: winning two and the Phillies winning one. Like This is
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: the type of matchup that kind of disappointed we get
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: it in April, kind of want to see it in August.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: So it's like a preview of what these teams are
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: gonna be. But man, they're both hitting on all cylinders
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: and they had some crappy weather to play through too,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So credit to the Dodgers for coming out of nice
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: weather to go play a net.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they both are pretty close to full strength right now.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Obviously when you meet up at the end of the season,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: usually have some players banged up. Oh, Tony will get
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: to that's a separate case. Wheeler, by the way, is
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: by far the number one starter on the Phillies. You
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: didn't pitch in this series, so to me, that gives
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: even another point to Philly.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Lozardo was philled fee I mean, he.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Talked about out two hits eight case.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: He talked to the Dodgers about what they saw from him.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: They're like, wow, that was impressive. It was impressive. Rob
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Thompson was super pumped about it, and if they can
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: keep him healthy. By the way, so I saw him
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: for the first time in person. I'd never met him
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in person. He is Jack by the way, like Jacked
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: that's Scott Jack but close.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a weight room guy. Well, we know, we
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: talk about this all the time. There's some pictures that
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: are like no upper body craziness, and then some are like, Chapman,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do whatever I want to do to be
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: feeling as freaking jacked as possible, and that's going to
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: be my life. Lozarda is more in the Arald this
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Chapman camp. I mean, he's he was a Miami guy
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: for a minute, so a that's going to bring the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: best beach bot out of you too. But anyway, in
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: all seriousness, quote of the series.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Has the best beach Tyler Glass. Now that's what was
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the just I mean, surfer bod True? Yeah, true?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Did you see the Harper quote? Before the series started,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, what do you think about the Dodgers?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I got all the players and he's like, I feel
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: like only losers complain about what they're doing. Such a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: good quote.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I mean I tweeted it. I quote tweeted it and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: got crushed for it. I was like, I don't know,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: because yeah, because I was like I love this quote.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Go out and beat them, I mean, and then people
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, you run on a small market team
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and never complained. I'm like, actually we didn't. When I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was with the Twins, we were responding, and we want
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to know without two thousand and five we were like
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: thirteenth in payroll, and we beat the Red Sox, we
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: beat the Astros, and we beat the Angels all over
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: ahead of us in payroll. We never complained. We just
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: want to kick their asses. So I love this colte
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: by Harper. Harper's like, you know what, we think we're
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: better than them. We'll go out and prove it. Don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: complain about it. They still have to go out and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: beat everybody. And the Phillies beat them two out of three.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: So to my capter, the Harper and the Phillies.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: And fans and fans I think sometimes need to be
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: reminded that players never look at it that way, or
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: at least not players that majority of players would respect.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: They don't look at it and go, we're playing the Dodger.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: We got no chance.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: You don't want to play with anybody that says that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: You don't even want to look yourself in the mirror
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: and say that, like, you want to go out you
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: have an opportunity to beat the other team, no matter
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: how much payroll they have, they got to put nine
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: guys out there. They got to put a picture on
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: the mound, and you get an opportunity to beat them
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: every single night. So I loved it that Harper said that,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: and I think play I think majority of players I've
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: had ninety eight percent of players would agree with him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, the Dodgers are gonna have to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: figure out, you know, this pitching injury epidemic that they've
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: been experiencing. I know Snells had injuries, but he's also
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: been in decent shape the last few years. Already, after
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: two starts, he hits the shelf shoulder inflammation. Hey, stacked.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: They've got plenty of depth. But you get that news
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: while we get the news about Otani over the weekend too.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they said anything to you, AJ,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of like Ken's report over the weekend
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: had to do with them really slow playing things because
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: they're thinking about the playoffs. Pitching wise, for him, he's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: got to pitch before that if the progression continues. But
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: he had his second session twenty six pitches mixed in
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the splitter. Usually from this point to getting back on
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a big league mount as a starter. It's about six weeks.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It sounds like it's probably gonna be maybe double that
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to get him back. They're gonna really slow play it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I was in the same meeting that Ken was in,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: so I know exactly what was told to him, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that was exactly what they said. I mean, Ken was
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: standing next to me when Dave Roberts told us his update.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they are slow playing it because they don't
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: know how to rehab them. We asked him. I asked,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, what do I keep saying, how do you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: rehab show Ay? Because you can't send him to Oklahoma
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: City and for Triple A and say throw five innings.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to do, you know, simulated games, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have to do this and do that. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: then I said to him, I said, Dave, well what
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: do you do when he actually does get into a game.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know. And I said, you're
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: going to piggyback in with Snell or Glass now or
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: so zaki ye, And he's like, I don't know about
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that either. So there's a lot of questions because nobody's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: ever done this. But yeah, they are slow playing this.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And one thing Dave did say was, yes, we want
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: him ready for October. That's what he wants. That's when
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: he wants to be ready. So they have plenty of
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: time to figure this out. The Snell thing is concerning
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: because man, he did he said the last few years
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: he's been pretty healthy. So to see him go down already.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: But what was interesting to me and hopefully he gets
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: back sooner rather than later.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Legendary walkoffs this weekend. We had five on Sunday? Is
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: that right? Five walkoffs on Sunday? Yes, do you want
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: do you want to get in your your gator talk
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: to here?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: No, we'll get four, We'll get in slow pins crats.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Four walkoffs on Sunday.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Five My thumb was outside of the cream.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Oh h, gotcha, your thumbs too big. Five walkoff wins
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the most across MLB on a single day since five
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: were pulled off on July eighth of twenty twenty two.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: That's fun for the first weekend of the season. Well
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: technically the second.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Right, the Giants.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: The Giants one was like was delayed. It was like, oh, okay,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: well they're probably gonna come back. And the roeblace injury.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I hope his shoulder's fine, but that looked bad. That
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: looked bad, and they called him out of play because
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: he had hit the net completely and fell and bounced back,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: and you can't use the net to stay and play.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that, but one pitch what right the
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: right field. Wilmer Flores was part of those five, and
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I think now he's tied with Bryce Harper for the
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: most walk off of any active player in baseball. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: think it's thirteen, which is crazy Wilmore Flores, when I
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: would not have picked him to be tied with Bryce Harper.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Let's there's a hot corner time. So we can cover
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the Pirates Yankee series in here. But it was the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Pirates home opener on Friday, and frankly, it was an
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: utter disaster, a nine spot for the Yanks. Judge hadnopohomer,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: they had some mistakes on the field. It just didn't
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: look like good, clean first home game baseball from Pittsburgh,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: and fans were heated. AJ we can only go off
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: what we hear on the broadcast and what reporters were saying,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: many of which have spent a long time covering the team,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and the consensus was sell the team, Sell the team.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: They were chanting loud. It sounded like Oakland last year.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And then there was the one fan trying to chat
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: with Bob Nutting who had the kind of fake oopsie
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: smile on his face. The owner of the Pirates as
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: he was trying to head to his suite, but he
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: wanted to just I guess walk through the concourse to
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: get there, or maybe there's no other way to get there.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They lost the next day. They did
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: pull off a walk off win yesterday five to four.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: They're off to a bad start, and it just feels
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: like they finally hit a boiling point on many levels
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: because they are going through a long rebuild right now
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: and it looks like the same sludge this year.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Where do you start? The video of the fans getting
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: after him is one of the craziest, funniest videos of
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: all time. I don't, I don't, I don't know, I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't expect or want to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: condone at all any fan going up to an owner
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and saying some of the things that were said. So
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: let's get that out there in the air. In the opening. Yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: we can show it because listen, say what you want
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to say. Be respectful though the guy, you know, he
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: still owns the team, so be a little bit respectful.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it because of that. I just say
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: be respectful because he's a human being. Also true, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: don't care about that because he's not true.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He's a human being. But I mean, I don't know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: but just be respectful to other people, please, Yeah and
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: so and fans caught him. But what I don't want
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to know is why was Bob nutting walking through the crowd.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: He knew this was coming. You have to know you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: cannot be that dense in life, right crotchy to know
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that if I walk out through the crowd at this point,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: with all the stuff that's been going on, that's someone's
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: not gonna say something crazy to me. And this guy
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: took a shot and Bob nunning to his I'll give
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: him credit for this. He didn't fire back, and he
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: got a security to get in the way and get
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: him out of there. But you had to know this
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: was coming. And that's what's surprising to me.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, he I mean, there's definitely another way to
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: get to his suite. I think it was. I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: he planned to walk out there because if you see
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: where he's walking, if we can show the video or not.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: If you look see the video, he's walking up that rotunda.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I think it's called that goes in left field. It's circular,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: it gets you to the upper deck. It's a really
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: really awesome unique thing that that PNC Park has. But
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: you go there and you're like, why would you walk through?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: As much as I'm like, hey, be an owner of
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: the people. Because John Middleton was just was just on
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: the Philly Show the other day. You can see he's
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: out in the he's out among the people, and people
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: aren't chirping a little bit here like it's a nice
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: it's an awesome walk So I like that you're all
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: out around the people and he acts like nobody's even
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: talking to him.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're screaming, sell the team, sell the team,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and the whole ballpark was doing that really for the
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: entire game. For the Friday home opener. Yeah, it was
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: kind of a nightmare series aside from the walk off win.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: But we just showed you a little bit of video
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: there and there's nothing to hear. They're just yelling sell
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the team, what's the deal? Why is Trent Grisham having
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the time of his life this weekend against US? Stuff
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: like that two over game shot.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Well Saturday, My bigger question is not only was did
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: this happen? But I think we're going to go there.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: The Roberto Clementi stuff to me was like that is
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like you can be the owner and you can piss
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: off folks. One thing you don't I'm doing Pittsburgh is
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you don't mess with Roberto Clementi. And for them to
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: take the Roberto Clementi twenty one off the wall. That
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: is the Roberto Clemente wall, and it's twenty one feet
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: high because of Roberto Clemente. And if you ask Latin
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: players in baseball, they will tell you that they think
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Roberto Clementi was as important as a Jackie Robinson and
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that they should retire that number throughout baseball. I don't
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: know that's going to happen, but you see the difference
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: right there. And for them to just for the Pirates
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: to be like it was an oversight, like are you
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: kidding me? It was an oversight? Like that was one
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: of the cool features of going to P and C
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was that wall and why it was there, and the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: height was special and everything. So I don't know. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: think that was just it just more of the bad
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: weekend vibes that Scott was talking about.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fixing it. I mean, you needed Roberto Clemente
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Junior to come out publicly and almost kind of hint
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that there are fractures and things that need to be fixed.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: In general, it's just it's really ugly, and the team
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, this was just an oversight. Oops ce.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Me.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you had to physically remove it or replace it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: That's not an oversight, is it. And it's like Kratz
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: they said, because they decided after COVID that they would
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: put the extra twenty one up there. I'm like, okay.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It just feels like when you're honoring someone who is
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: a legend in the organization who has passed, you can't
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: put something up and then take it away. Part of
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the excuse on the Oopsie was like, well, we have
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: other stuff honoring him. I get it. I get the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: sponsor ship part, right, everyone has sponsorship to pay the bills,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: but like, there are many other places to put something.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You think that replacing something like that with a sponsor
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: is going to go over. Well, now the sponsor's pissed
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and they probably want their.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Money back, as they should. Don't offer that to them.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: They did this on purpose. And the I'm not sure
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: what his name was, the guy who said, I take
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: full responsibility.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Head of sales, Travis Williams, not president of the.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Travels thank you. And he said I take full responsibility.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: But then if he would have stopped there, you'd have
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: been like, okay, fine. But then he said, well, we
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: actually have twenty one. And if you would look at
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: that picture, it's really hard to see, but above the
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: scoreboard about halfway up there's a cement line. It's where
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: people can like stand, and it's above that automated scoreboard
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: that they have there, and it's a twenty one that's
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: this big to me. They felt like they had done enough.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: They felt like they had enough. Roberto Clemente. You can
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: see it, I mean so so tiny. The black on
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: the right on the right picture, there's a twenty one.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: The scoreboard's off so you can really see it. It's
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: that little. It's a little dot on the scoreboard, I
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: mean above the scoreboard there that says twenty one. And
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I think there's one at the other end of it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: To me, they felt like they had given enough enough
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: respect in homage to to me, he's bigger than just
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: the Pirates. There's a Roberto Clemente museum in Pittsburgh. Like
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Pirates fan connect with this, there is a majority of
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: players that connect with Roberto Clemente and what he did
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: and his ability to bring Latin players that that you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: opened it up some for lat there's Latin players before him,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: but he really brought that flash and flare and a
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: lot of them that never knew him really gravitated to that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: And I they they missed it. And now you gotta Now,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: you gotta figure out what to do with Surfside, because
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: you know you told them, hey, we can sell you
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: the falpole line. We can sell you the line right
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: next to the foul pole. That's going to be huge
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: because when home runs go there, Now, where are they
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: gonna put them? You better, you better figure it out
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: because you had this and you made that promise. Now
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Surf Side can sponsor Hot Corner if they want. We'll
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: always show you on here.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: That's true. But also if I'm them, I'm pissed that
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you know there was a miscommunication here because you know
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: that's not on the sponsor to know exactly what was
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: replacing what and all that. So you made them look
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: bad and that's not cool. So yeah, there were a
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: lot of really big swings and misses from the Pirates
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: this weekend, aside from Tommy fam with the walk off
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: after a blown lead for one, Grisham got him again
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: at one point it would have been really bad, but regardless,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: like you got to pick on them when they're down
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: right now because fans need a voice and we're here
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: for you because it's bs what's gone on there. Meanwhile,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yankees look really good as usual. They won two out
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: of three here. They're off to a nice start to
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the year. Let's hit the Giants and Rangers when we
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: swing back, both off to sizzland starts. Oh Buster, Posey's
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: looking good right now. Best record in baseball belongs to
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: a team that's won seven in a row, the San
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Francisco Giants. They played some close games this weekend too,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: against Seattle. Obviously, Seattle gets swept. They lose Roeblayce for
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: a while. It could be bad news for them. But
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: on the other side here aj A damis for the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: home opener getting the walk off. And I've already heard
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: from who is it Zach Manasan who is the brother
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: of Perry who runs the Angels, that a domis in there.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: This was a good line from him. Treats every game
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: like opening Day, like every game is this genuine excitement
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that you're playing again without overdoing it? And that is
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: a fine line. So it sounds like he's already really
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: like bringing the spark that you saw with him in
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers for years.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: This is why he was so valuable in Milwaukee. Besides
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the stats, just a smile, he brings the energy, he
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: brings scrats no, scrats on. But listen, man, I know
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I think that the Giants listener. Are they off to
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: a hot story he has. Is it great for the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Giants in their fan base? Yes? Is it great for
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Buster Posey? Absolutely?
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You know what the best part about this is baseball
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: players can run teams. Look at the Red Sox, look
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: at the Rangers, look at the Giants. Now, baseball players.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to just be people from IVY League schools, right,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: baseball players, No, baseball Let's put some more baseball players
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: in there. I'm happy for Giants. Fans are excited. It's
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: good for baseball. When teams win, you bring someone back,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: past player. Guess what, Buster Posey a legend in San Francisco.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: He wants the Giants to win. Let's we need to
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: see more of this. We need baseball people in baseball.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Can his just aura of winning? I mean, Buster Posey
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: is just he's winning, That's what it is. The one
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: you know, they won, and then he got hurt and
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: they didn't win, and then he was back again. They
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: won again and it was an off year. Like he
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: was always in the playoffs. He was always around winning.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: So can that permeate in just his first year in
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: the front office because he was working for the team.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: You know now that he's pushing the buttons, is he
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: really making that much of a difference. I don't know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: but this is a great start. A lot of close games.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: It would say that those close games would even out,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: but close games are won not by offense, by pitching
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: in defense. And these boys can pick it. They can
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: pick it, and if they know how to play in
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: San fran maybe they have an advantage there because they
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: can pick it. And they're gonna try to be able to,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: you know, outlast teams with their pitching and defense, which
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: could be huge.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But do we think, does anybody think they're going to
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: win the division even though it's nice start. I'm just saying,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and I know Scott, I know Scott doesn't care, but
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: they do have a negative run differential.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I definitely don't care because they're winning close games right now,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: runners in scoring position, machines, two out, RBIs, walk off wins.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Adamis was a posy ad right. Chapman getting extended, who
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: had a nice weekend with some big plays and some
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: timely hits was kind of a posey move with the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: way that he got it done. And overall, I do
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: know that there have been some changes already with the
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: analytics staff still doing their thing but taking a step
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: back and being so close to the players and kind
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: of surrounding them. And I mean, you guys, tell me,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: does that make a difference right off the jump if
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: you feel like it's a little more baseball and just
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: a little more separation in the right way.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Winning. But let me ask you also, Scott, you say, oh,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you play. Who did they just
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: sweep Seattle?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: They swept Houston before that, and they won two out
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: of three against Cincinnati, and that one loss was by
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: one run, so they look good. Those are all good teams.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking. You always say you know, it doesn't
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: matter who you play, but I mean, Seattle's not playing great.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: They're not swinging the bats very well.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's not a bad to a thirty
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: five scoreless. I'm just saying no, but it's not like
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: they opened up against the Rockies and White Sox. To me,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: those are all formidable teams. Even if they're average teams.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: They're they're good. Houston should be good. Seattle, Yes, I
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: don't think he's I think they're going to be in
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the same range as usual. They'll be in like the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: low to mid eighties. They'll miss the playoffs by a
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: game or two fifty four, and then Cincinnati. We don't
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: know yet. But my point is they're not bad teams.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just I just wanted I love how you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: flipped the narrative to however you wanted to fit.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: The true We're talking about the Rays when they had
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: their undefeated start and they played some weaker.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Appeasant He's a scout, he writes, whatever he writes, whatever
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: narrative he wants. This guy unbelievable. Great speed, not high
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: end speed, but speed that comes off the bas is
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Scott Scott's scout. We hear it, We hear it at him.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: He flips the narrative when he needs it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I think Ad misses me. We're going to be in
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: studio together on Wednesday, as long as there's not another
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: National Championship game, aren't we?
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Huggs hugs.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't know if I'll change
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the code on my door or not.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: All right, here we are. First off, one more bit
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: of news in the AL West or the National League West.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Make it to tell Marte Hamstring Streen put on the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Ale Saturday. That happened in Friday's game, running out a
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: double in the first inning. He was off to a
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: hot start, one sixty seven ops plus first eight game,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: six walks to four k's. They'll be okay, but that
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: still sucks. I mean, he's a top five player right
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: now in the National League based on what he did
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: last year in the start to this year. So that
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: helps San Francisco too to stay in the pack here
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: with the wildcar contenders. You know it knocks Arizona back,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: potentially a couple of games, depending on how long he misses.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Rangers eight and two, they sweep the race, thoughts their
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: offense hasn't even gotten going really yet.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: By the way, Sorry, I got confused. I thought we're
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: tugging Rangers. The Rangers have the negative run differential. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: The Giants actually have a huge run difference for the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Rangers are the ones? So Apologies everybody in the chat
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. I was confused. I was listening, but I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: was too excited to burn Scott on the Rangers instead
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: of the Giants. So go Giants. As someone that has
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: their number retired by the Giants, I am a Giant,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: so I get it.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: And you're a Ranger and the Rangers. I had.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Rangers are eight and two and they do
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: have a negative run differential, so yes, which is so Scott.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: They suck according to you.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Isn't that because of the one game where they got
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: clocked by the Reds. Yeah, that's still That's why run
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: different rental is so stupid. It's so dumb. It is
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: such a bad stat and the fact that we're smart numbers.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: People rely on that, like, oh, they're Pythagorean record. I'm like,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: so a team can lose two games by a combined
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: score of thirty to three and throw somebody out there
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: that just eats it for a while, and that's going
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: to affect how you look at that team for the year.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: That's a terrible stat.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: I like it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: What do you think about the Rangers?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: That's a scout coming out again Cratsey by the way,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: because you know he just picks the stats he likes.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But I like, I love the Range. I think the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Ranger are good as long as they're as long as
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: their pitches to have stays healthy. Jack Lader's already down
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: to get to Grun stay healthy. Canivaldy stay healthy? Can
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Maalley stay healthy? If they do? But we your no
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: verse boat. You can run a bullpen. That's the biggest thing. Boats.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: You'll get that value out of that bullpen no matter
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: what time of year it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Is, correct, all right, So good start for them, And yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: played a nice series against a race team that is
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: probably going to stand out for it's pitching more than
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: anything else. They got to Tej Bradley in that matchup?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: What was that On Saturday? They got to Tash So yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: good start for them. All right, let's slap. We've got
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of things to do. First off, watch party.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Next one we're doing, We're gonna do this once a
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: week on playback Dodgers and Nationals. It'll be a foul
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: territory Dodgers Territory little collab. We'll call that whole game
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: four o'clock Eastern time. Catch it this Wednesday. Will give
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: you more info tomorrow and of course on Wednesday as well.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Alanaizzo already confirmed, and we're working on some others as well.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to AJ's story here for two minutes.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I want to hear about your Max Monsey conversation because
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: he's coming on the show tomorrow.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna be on tomorrow because I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: have to get home from San Antonio. By the way,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: if you haven't been to San Antonio, I haven't been here.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I've been here one other time. It's awesome. The river
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: walk is awesome and it's not hot, so which makes
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it even better. So I'll be on on Wednesday again
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: unless I fall into the river after Florida Wednesday night
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't get out, which is a distinct possibility.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: We'll see. But I was in Philadelphia this weekend. I
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: as a Fox analyst. We get to go in the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: clubhouses and Max was in there and I was talking
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: to him and he's like, oh, you know, I'm kind
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of struggling. I'm like, dude, you're like three for twenty.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I forget what the numbers or whatever. I'm like, but
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: if this was in June, you know, nobody would carry.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: He's like that's a good point. I'm like, Max, you've
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: gotten too many hits. You're too good to let this go.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you're right, you're right. I'm like, oh,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I got Nola, and you know he's gonna flip you
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: some curveballs. Just just get out front and you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: clip it out front and hit one down the right
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: field line and then you go from there. And he's like, ah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you know, da da da da. I don't know, we'll see,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I don't want to swing at
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the curveball. I'm like, well, at some point, you're gonna
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: have to swing at one. He's just kind of like,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. But it all started
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to see his torpedo bow, which he
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: had thrown in the garbage because he said I had
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: no hits in it. So I'm like, just you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: get your torpedo bat out of the garbage, flip one
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: down the right field line. You'll get going.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Max months he guess that he does three for three.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I had no idea at the time. He was one
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: for twenty one off Nola with eleven punchies. I had
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely no idea because I hadn't read the notes yet. Instead,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I felt like an idiot. He went out went three
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: for three, So Max, you owe me, so up him
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: for those three for three when you come on tomorrow. Brother.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, that was coaching status right there. Wow.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Yep had no idea. Yep went in there was like
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: just you don't believe in yourself, come on, you can
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: do it, and doing for the gimper, doing for the
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: old man up there in the booth. Let's go in
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: three for three. So off Nola, All off Nola too.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, firstbody get.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Somebody, somebody get a Jason the shoulders patting himself on
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: the back. Worst hitting coach ever. Never tellybody give hitting
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: coach advice.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: It works, though,