Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI SCROLL: Tana Mongeau & Noel Miller speak out, Demure Fall TikTok trend + Chris Olsen addresses leaked photos
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- 0:00Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
- 0:03culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
- 0:06media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
- 0:10through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
- 0:13the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
- 0:18Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
- 0:20I have no idea what this lighting looks like because the
- 0:24sun is going down. It's almost 8:00 PM.
- 0:27I can't even tell you how crazy today has been trying to figure
- 0:31out how to film the full like deep dives like infinite scroll.
- 0:35I brought my teleprompter to Canada, but I didn't bring my
- 0:39tripod because my parents said they had a tripod.
- 0:42Anyways, I should have known, but when I got here, of course,
- 0:44their tripod is from like 1995. It does not work with my camera.
- 0:49Anyways, it's been a day, but we are here.
- 0:52We are ready to do mini scroll. So much happened this weekend, I
- 0:57cannot even tell you guys. I mean, I'm going to tell you,
- 0:59but I really had to pick and choose my stories.
- 1:02Maybe it will be a more tame Monday and then I'll be able to
- 1:05share some of the other stories that I couldn't cover today in
- 1:08tomorrow's episode. Let's get into it.
- 1:09So the first story that I have for you guys is that both Noel
- 1:14Miller and Tana Mojo have addressed their podcast Co host
- 1:19recent backlash. So this is a story that I'm
- 1:21combining because like I said, there was just so much going on
- 1:23and you know, we already know the full story.
- 1:25We know the whole Brooke situation with Tana.
- 1:28We know the whole Cody situation with Noel.
- 1:30So I don't need to go back into it for you guys.
- 1:32But Noel Miller, who Co hosts and Co owns TMG with Cody Co
- 1:37made his first episode back solo And at the beginning he
- 1:40addressed everything going on with Cody, the allegations that
- 1:43he slept with Tana when he was a when she was a teenager.
- 1:46And Tana who Co host cancelled with Brooks Schofield, who is
- 1:50currently facing extreme backlash for very racist tweets
- 1:53that came out. She made a first episode back of
- 1:55the podcast and she is solo at least in like the first address.
- 2:00She Co hosted it with Paige after that.
- 2:02So Noel started by thanking his audience for being patient and
- 2:05then he said he's not in a position to speak about
- 2:08anything. And I know that that has really
- 2:10pissed a lot of people off. I think this is unsurprising
- 2:13because if Cody comes out and addresses the allegations that
- 2:16he had sex with Tana Mojo when she was a minor, like he's
- 2:19admitting to a crime. So Noel can't really speak on
- 2:22this freely as well because there's probably legal
- 2:24implications for him because he doesn't want to get sued by
- 2:28Cody. I'm not sure if TMG has other
- 2:30investors or anything like that, but all of that could tarnish,
- 2:33of course, the brand it already has.
- 2:35I understand why he can't really say anything.
- 2:37I will say the reception is very mixed.
- 2:39Of course, there's lots of people that are like, Oh my God,
- 2:42we feel so bad for Noel that like he's dragged into this with
- 2:44Cody like this, you know, isn't on him.
- 2:47And now he's having to deal with the fallout of this.
- 2:49And that would just be so difficult, which I agree with
- 2:52the other camp is like, well, he definitely knew.
- 2:55This was clearly like a known secret in the YouTube community,
- 2:59at least among some people. And he was so close with Cody.
- 3:02So a lot of people think maybe he knew.
- 3:03And you know, that's not that's not great.
- 3:06It's not a great look. So those are kind of the two
- 3:08camps there now when it comes to Tana.
- 3:11So she started this week's cancelled podcast by noting that
- 3:14she asked Brooke not to come on. She said that she condemns
- 3:18Brooke's tweets and noted that it was a mistake for her to have
- 3:21commented on book Brooke's first apology video.
- 3:24So Tana had commented that they both grew up quote UN quote bad
- 3:28and that she loved Brooke. When Brooke made her first
- 3:30apology, which was like a really bad apology, and, you know,
- 3:33people were immediately, like, now you're just kind of
- 3:36validating her excuse of like, I grew up in a Red House or like
- 3:40with a Republican grandfather. And she's like, you know, I grew
- 3:44up bad, too. And This is why we both had
- 3:46racist tweets. People were kind of like, that's
- 3:47not like, stop making excuses. So she said that she clearly has
- 3:51still some learning to do if she was so down to make that excuse
- 3:55so quickly. And then she also said that she
- 3:58has advised Brooke that these tweets will get brought up a lot
- 4:01now over the course of her career and she just has to be
- 4:04ready and willing to address them every single time.
- 4:07I would say Tanas address is not being received well either.
- 4:10Obviously, she has her own history of racist tweets and
- 4:14content, and she did address that in the beginning of the
- 4:17cancelled episode as well. But you know, it kind of felt, I
- 4:20think to a lot of people like quite hypocritical.
- 4:23And also quick side note, kind of Speaking of Tana in this
- 4:25whole world, Jeff Whittick has returned from the his hiatus.
- 4:29He returned to the Jeff FM podcast and apparently he has
- 4:32spoken about the lawsuit with David Jobrich giving an update
- 4:35on that. I have not watched it yet, but I
- 4:38know he is back. OK, the next story that I have
- 4:40for you guys is demure fall is the latest TikTok trend to sweep
- 4:45the app. So last week, makeup and
- 4:47commentary creator Jules LeBron created a new trend that has
- 4:51gone so viral so fast. So she has basically been making
- 4:55these satirical videos about being very demure, very cutesy,
- 4:59very mindful. They're satirical because she'll
- 5:02have like a full face of makeup on with like lashes and wings
- 5:06liner. And then she'll be like.
- 5:09How I do my makeup for work. Very demure, very mindful.
- 5:13I don't come to work with a green cut crease, don't look
- 5:16like a clown when I go to work, I don't do too much.
- 5:19I'm very mindful while I'm at. Work demure is definitely the
- 5:22new word. So people are like, OK, but rat
- 5:24summer is out, demure fall is in.
- 5:26So if you're a brand, I would say try and work with her first
- 5:29of all. I think that would be like an
- 5:31amazing fire collab. She is like in her moment right
- 5:34now. But that's the thing, it would
- 5:35have to be like right away or if you can't work with her right
- 5:39now, try and use a trend. Definitely use one of her
- 5:42sounds, tag her, make sure you give her credit.
- 5:43But yes, I think it's like a very simple and like a safe
- 5:47trend to do. And I think it would work so
- 5:50well with so many brands. So the last part that I have for
- 5:53you guys is Chris Olsen is opening up about struggling with
- 5:56being a content creator as his revenge porn is leaked.
- 6:00So two days ago, TikTok star Chris Olsen posted a video
- 6:02basically like screaming into his phone.
- 6:04It was in response to somebody like in the his comments
- 6:08section, and he was really upset about how he's being treated
- 6:12online, he said. Lately, the abuse against him as
- 6:15a creator has reached almost like an unmanageable level, and
- 6:19it's resulted in such serious harassment that now people are
- 6:24leaking his revenge porn. So this is all seemingly because
- 6:28people find him, like, cringe and annoying, you know, And he
- 6:31addresses that in that first video.
- 6:32He's like, there are people that do like actually bad things on
- 6:36this app on the Internet. There are creators who are like,
- 6:38actually facing really harsh criticism and scandals and the
- 6:44fact that people just find me annoying.
- 6:46And so they just constantly bully and abuse me.
- 6:49Like that's just not OK. All I've ever done anytime I
- 6:54have gotten on this fucking app is trying to make people laugh
- 6:57and try to make people happy. I have never ever come on this
- 7:01app with any intention of making someone angry or just being rude
- 7:05for no reason, but that is all people do to me.
- 7:08That is all you fucking do to me on here.
- 7:11I don't know if I made myself such an easy target because I
- 7:13was trying to be nice, but I don't want to be that anymore.
- 7:16Fuck all of you people who have decided to drive me this crazy.
- 7:19There are people on this app who continuously get taken down for
- 7:22actual problematic things. My crime is being fucking
- 7:25annoying. So he then posted a photo of
- 7:27himself crying with text overlaid.
- 7:30The text reads. This is a line that's been heard
- 7:33over and over again since people have been able to have
- 7:35platforms, but I'm truly just a person.
- 7:38These past few months have felt like I'm back in middle school
- 7:40being bullied by all the kids around me and there's no escape.
- 7:43And this time I'm supposed to somehow be grateful for the
- 7:45bullies because they're the ones giving me my life?
- 7:48I haven't felt like I wanted to die like this since before I
- 7:51went to rehab, but anyone going through this would feel the
- 7:53same. This is not me threatening SH or
- 7:55anything, I'm just sharing where I'm at mentally.
- 7:58Y'all I cannot survive like this.
- 8:00And then in the caption, he was like, I know the advice is
- 8:03usually get off the app, take a break.
- 8:05But I don't want to have to remove myself from something
- 8:07that brings me joy just because other people have decided to
- 8:09make it painful, which is so true.
- 8:12It's so true. So I guess after this, people
- 8:16were commenting that he was a porn star, so the photos that
- 8:20are circulating of him were consensual or something.
- 8:24So yesterday he posted a response to that.
- 8:26He was literally sobbing and he was reading off his phone cuz
- 8:29he's like, I need to get this out.
- 8:30I had to write it down. I'm like, Oh my God, it was so
- 8:32sad. He clarified that he was never a
- 8:34porn star. And he said when he got out of
- 8:37rehab at 19, he was still not in a great place in his head, But
- 8:41he started, you know, posting on social media and getting a bit
- 8:44of a following. So he said during this time,
- 8:46photographers would reach out to him to do a collab.
- 8:48So, like, it would be mutually beneficial.
- 8:50There was no money involved. And like, that's happened to me
- 8:53before. Like, this is, like, a common
- 8:55practice. And he said there was one in
- 8:58particular where he got really taken advantage of.
- 9:01But I never said no. So to this day I can't really
- 9:04say that I tried. I didn't say no and the photos
- 9:07were taken. Multiple shoots happened and I
- 9:09let them and he posted them on a platform that you have to pay
- 9:13for, but people screenshotted them and from there was over.
- 9:17I'm saying I don't want these things to circulate anymore and
- 9:20I hope that's enough. I know it might not be, and I
- 9:23know I have to stand by the fact that I made them, but I'm in the
- 9:26process of forgiving myself and I hope you can try to forgive me
- 9:29too. So this is really sad.
- 9:31I think if you guys spend a lot of time online, it's not going
- 9:33to be surprising that we are just at this head.
- 9:37Like things have come to a head so much with how people treat
- 9:41creators and influencers. Things have become increasingly
- 9:45toxic even for us. Like we're a media brand, like
- 9:48we are a company. And the types of comments that
- 9:51we get on TikTok are so much more disgusting, vile, abusive
- 9:57than they ever were, I would say in the last probably year with
- 10:01this podcast, Obviously, it's also a company podcast.
- 10:04Like I hosted, I own the company, but it is like a brand
- 10:07podcast, you know, and same thing, you know, I'm not like an
- 10:11individual creator out here and like same thing, you know, the
- 10:15comments that we get. It's just we're at this, I feel
- 10:19like we're at this like precipice where something's got
- 10:22to change or we're going to continually see more and more of
- 10:26our favorite beloved creators abandoning ship, like just
- 10:30leaving social media And like, is that what we want?
- 10:33Because the people who are bullying these people are the
- 10:36ones that are spending like 10 hours a day on TikTok, You know,
- 10:39like you're going to have no one to bully, no one to watch and no
- 10:42one to bully if you're running them all off the app.
- 10:46So I really feel for creators. And I think there are a few
- 10:50really bad eggs who have made it to the top that have made it
- 10:53very difficult for other creators who are genuinely just
- 10:57like funny or insightful, feel good, whatever.
- 11:01And it makes the experience of being a social media creator so
- 11:05terrible for them because of these like power hungry,
- 11:08narcissistic, some of them horrible people at the top.
- 11:13And then when it comes to his revenge porn, I wanted to touch
- 11:15on the fact that it's so powerful for anyone to speak up
- 11:20about any experience like this, especially a man, because I
- 11:24think men are so often ashamed for speaking out.
- 11:28Like, women are, of course, shamed too.
- 11:30No one is taken seriously when they speak up about sexual
- 11:33assault, abuse, things like that.
- 11:34I think we see a lot fewer men come out and open up about these
- 11:37experiences, maybe out of embarrassment, maybe because of
- 11:41the stigma, I'm not sure. But I think it's really powerful
- 11:44that he did this. I think he's so vulnerable in
- 11:47these videos. And they're hard to watch, but
- 11:49they're important. And I'm glad they're still up.
- 11:51And I would not, you know, blame him if he took them down.
- 11:55And I think maybe he will one day because they're probably so
- 11:58painful to have out there. But it's just so disgusting and
- 12:02sad. The fact that regular people on
- 12:06the Internet who just think that he's like annoying and cringe
- 12:10would be like sending him screenshots of his revenge porn
- 12:13or sharing that around because they just don't like him like
- 12:19that is a level of fucked up that like we need to get a hold
- 12:22of right now. Like we need to rain that and we
- 12:24need to find a solution to that. That cannot be the norm full
- 12:27stop. Anyways, thank you guys so much
- 12:29for listening to Mini scroll. I hope you guys like this
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- 12:38to you guys tomorrow. Bye.