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- 0:05Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph
- 0:09Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. If you have a dog at home,
- 0:12Speaker 1: this might be important for you to know. Party Animal
- 0:15Speaker 1: Dog Food is recalling two different kinds of food that
- 0:17Speaker 1: may be contaminated with pinto barbital. That's the same drug
- 0:21Speaker 1: used for the euthanasia of dogs, cats, and horses. One
- 0:24Speaker 1: dog that ate the food died for other dogs got sick.
- 0:29Speaker 1: The company sounded its alarm after a customer in Texas
- 0:31Speaker 1: turned over cans of two foods that had tested positive
- 0:34Speaker 1: for the drug. The class action suit seeks five million
- 0:36Speaker 1: dollars of damages. Who do you love the most beside
- 0:40Speaker 1: your family? Think about it. Who do you love who
- 0:44Speaker 1: always greets you with a big smile, who gives you
- 0:47Speaker 1: a hug whenever you want, never ask any questions, and
- 0:52Speaker 1: always happy with whatever little treat you give them? Well,
- 0:56Speaker 1: that gave it away. I'm talking about your pet. Right
- 0:59Speaker 1: now my house, we are rocking six pets. I've got
- 1:03Speaker 1: my cat, Cinnamon Girl, my dog Fat Boy a k A. Nitro, uh,
- 1:09Speaker 1: my nephew who just moved in with us, his cat
- 1:13Speaker 1: and dog that would be um BINGI and precious arguable
- 1:19Speaker 1: and then my daughter who got obsessed with guinea pigs.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Every time I try to sneak up on her while
- 1:25Speaker 1: she was on iPad, I'd expect to see the worst.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Oh no, it was her watching endless guinea pig videos.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Don't worry. The same thing happened with cats two years ago.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Hence Cinnamon. I love them and I think they love me.
- 1:41Speaker 1: So when I heard about the story we are about
- 1:44Speaker 1: to bring to you, I naturally was very upset. I
- 1:49Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being
- 1:53Speaker 1: with us. I'm talking about the deaths of pets all
- 1:58Speaker 1: across our country from pet food. Okay, I just wanted
- 2:05Speaker 1: to sing in for a moment with me. Longtime friend
- 2:09Speaker 1: and colleague Laura Beverage, Karen Becker, veterinarian in the US
- 2:15Speaker 1: and Canada, Rodney Habib Planet Pause, huge, huge falling of
- 2:20Speaker 1: people regarding pet safety and pet health. Susan Thixton Truth
- 2:26Speaker 1: about pet Food website, consumer advocate for Animals and Justice,
- 2:32Speaker 1: later a lawyer that specializes and consumer class actions and
- 2:38Speaker 1: as an expert in the pet industry. You know, I
- 2:40Speaker 1: want to start with you, Laura Beverage, Um, what can
- 2:44Speaker 1: you tell me about pets allegedly dying from pet food. Yes, Nancy,
- 2:52Speaker 1: I lost my beautiful girl, Dumpling in July, and her
- 2:56Speaker 1: her loss was from a pet treat. Wa wait wait,
- 3:00Speaker 1: how do you know, Dumpling? How do you know Dumpling
- 3:04Speaker 1: just didn't die of old age, Laura or some other ailment.
- 3:07Speaker 1: I mean, she couldn't tell you what was wrong. Yes, Nancy,
- 3:11Speaker 1: I had given her this treat, UM, and it was
- 3:15Speaker 1: one that I bought because the label said safe for
- 3:19Speaker 1: all hot alternative. Um. It just looked like and I'm
- 3:23Speaker 1: very careful with my treats, that looked like the perfect treat.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I gave it to her. UM. She chewed it for
- 3:29Speaker 1: quite a while. She was right there with me, UM,
- 3:32Speaker 1: and then UM. I noticed that the treat was gone. UM,
- 3:36Speaker 1: and I began to hear her her breath sounds change.
- 3:40Speaker 1: After she UM tried to get sick a couple of times,
- 3:44Speaker 1: so I took her. She got in the car. She
- 3:46Speaker 1: was acting like she was trying to throw up. Yes,
- 3:49Speaker 1: and we are right down the street from an emergency clinic.
- 3:52Speaker 1: She walked into the clinic. They pulled the UM treat
- 3:58Speaker 1: from her airway and handed it to me. They saved
- 4:02Speaker 1: it for me. We thought she was going to do okay,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and she died about twelve hours later. She was our girl, Nancy,
- 4:10Speaker 1: So she choked on a pet trait. Um, let me
- 4:16Speaker 1: understand something, Jessica Slider, you're a lawyer who is right
- 4:20Speaker 1: now preparing a class action lawsuit representing pets. Tell me
- 4:25Speaker 1: the extent of this adain a choking Are you saying
- 4:30Speaker 1: that the problem is that a pet trait is a
- 4:32Speaker 1: choking hazard. In addition to Laura's situation, we're actually involved
- 4:38Speaker 1: in another class action against another company called Avengers and Uh,
- 4:43Speaker 1: I guess just to give you an idea of the
- 4:45Speaker 1: types of claims that we bring their usually under the
- 4:49Speaker 1: state consumer protection statutes, and they involved false advertising. And
- 4:55Speaker 1: in Laura's situation, the treat that she purchased explicitly said
- 5:00Speaker 1: that it was not raw hide, and she can tell
- 5:04Speaker 1: you what first. With raw hide, it's not easily digestible.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And also another problem that pets have is depending on
- 5:13Speaker 1: the size of what the treat is, UH, it can
- 5:17Speaker 1: cause this choking because they might just swallow a whole
- 5:19Speaker 1: instead of just chewing on it, as what happened with
- 5:22Speaker 1: Dumplin and I guess it kind of you know, going
- 5:26Speaker 1: into some of the other cases that we've we are
- 5:28Speaker 1: currently litigating a lot of the pet food that's out
- 5:32Speaker 1: there advertises itself as a premium product. You know, the
- 5:38Speaker 1: Avenger's pet food said it was human grade, and what
- 5:42Speaker 1: the issue was with that pet food is that it
- 5:45Speaker 1: was actually from a dead animal hauler. And the pet
- 5:50Speaker 1: food that some of my clients fed to their dogs
- 5:55Speaker 1: can contain the actual euthanasia drug that's used to put
- 5:59Speaker 1: animals to sleep and in human execution. Wait wait, wait,
- 6:04Speaker 1: are you saying that animal carcasses are in pet food? Yes,
- 6:10Speaker 1: anything that is not human grade U s d A
- 6:13Speaker 1: inspected is used in pet food and it's false average.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I've got to write this down. I'm not understanding this,
- 6:23Speaker 1: Laura Beverage. You know, I'm just a trial lawyer. You're
- 6:26Speaker 1: the pet expert, and I'm about bringing our vet Karen Beckert.
- 6:30Speaker 1: What is she saying? Laura, break it down from me
- 6:32Speaker 1: and all of our listeners here on serious sex in
- 6:35Speaker 1: What are the claims specifically, Because Laura, there can be
- 6:39Speaker 1: a million arguments whether you're right or wrong about dumpling
- 6:44Speaker 1: choking on a chew toy, okay or Patrick, but what
- 6:47Speaker 1: is she saying? What are we talking about here? Well, Nancy,
- 6:51Speaker 1: she it's it's swelled. So she's saying that when you
- 6:54Speaker 1: read a label as Dumpling's label read, it read as
- 6:57Speaker 1: an edible food. It had a calorie con tin on it,
- 7:00Speaker 1: It had products chicken, rice, it had things that makes
- 7:05Speaker 1: you think edible and not raw hide. People steer away
- 7:09Speaker 1: from raw hide. Dumplin's um products swelled in her airway
- 7:14Speaker 1: by fifty Well wait, wait, wait, wait, Laura, You're gonna
- 7:19Speaker 1: have to excuse me. This is the only way I
- 7:21Speaker 1: ever won a case. I would take each phrase and
- 7:25Speaker 1: saying autopsy report or whatever, and I would break it
- 7:27Speaker 1: down so I could totally understand it. Now I'm hearing
- 7:30Speaker 1: something new. You're saying that the treat you gave dumpling
- 7:35Speaker 1: swelled up in her airway. Okay, okay, let me And
- 7:44Speaker 1: the other thing we're saying is that if it's not
- 7:48Speaker 1: human grade f d A inspected, then what is it.
- 7:55Speaker 1: We We know, Nancy, that we had one test that
- 7:58Speaker 1: tested it um as raw hide. The FDA is still
- 8:01Speaker 1: investigating and doing their own testing. It clearly was not
- 8:05Speaker 1: in edible food product as the label read. When you
- 8:11Speaker 1: look at the the edible ingredients. It clearly was not safe.
- 8:16Speaker 1: It had safe on the labels three different times. Um,
- 8:19Speaker 1: it was not even legal to sell in the state
- 8:23Speaker 1: of Georgia where I am. I found out through my
- 8:27Speaker 1: complaint that I filed with the Department of Agriculture. So
- 8:30Speaker 1: she died on an illegally sold product that we UM
- 8:36Speaker 1: will find out more about what it really was. That's
- 8:41Speaker 1: it in a nutshell, and it broke our hearts. Let
- 8:45Speaker 1: me go to h Jessica s later again before I
- 8:48Speaker 1: head back to Rodney's. Susan and Karen Jessica. The claims
- 8:53Speaker 1: that you are leveling against the pet food industry in
- 8:58Speaker 1: plane term, you claim are causing the deaths of pets
- 9:04Speaker 1: across the country and owners are none the wise or
- 9:07Speaker 1: they don't even know what happened. For instance, if Laura
- 9:10Speaker 1: hadn't gone to the emergency clinic, she would never have
- 9:13Speaker 1: known that that pet chew swelled up fifty in Dumbin's
- 9:19Speaker 1: airway and it was non edible food. Well, that's not food,
- 9:25Speaker 1: it was a non edible substance that was she gave
- 9:29Speaker 1: lovingly gave to her pet. Look, pets can't speak for themselves.
- 9:34Speaker 1: That's why we're here today. So Jessica, in simple terms,
- 9:39Speaker 1: explain to me what your allegations are. Right, So it's
- 9:42Speaker 1: exactly what you just said, Nancy, As you know as
- 9:46Speaker 1: a fellow trial attorney, the evidence that Laura and other
- 9:51Speaker 1: consumers have been able to obtain has actually been able
- 9:55Speaker 1: to allow us to bring these claims. Attorney have been
- 10:00Speaker 1: bringing these false advertising, deceptive practices at claims against pet
- 10:05Speaker 1: food companies for years, but they've never had the proof
- 10:08Speaker 1: that we now have in these situations based on people
- 10:12Speaker 1: like Laura who are actually investigating what's going on. Joining
- 10:16Speaker 1: me is Karen Becker Rodney had been and Susan thinksen
- 10:20Speaker 1: to you Rodney with Planet Pause way in on the
- 10:24Speaker 1: climbs against the pet food industry. I'm trying to understand
- 10:26Speaker 1: exactly what is being alleged. Well, Uh, Nancy first and
- 10:31Speaker 1: foremost Laura, it would not be probably the only person
- 10:34Speaker 1: in the world that would have this same situation. In fact,
- 10:38Speaker 1: I wrote a article several years ago which has been
- 10:42Speaker 1: viewed right now, I'd probably say by over a billion
- 10:45Speaker 1: people worldwide. There's over two hundred thousand comments on there,
- 10:49Speaker 1: and of those comments, there are probably uh thousands and
- 10:53Speaker 1: thousands of people that have experienced the same issue that
- 10:56Speaker 1: Laura has had through Harahide experience. Are there any concerns
- 11:02Speaker 1: about dog food, Jessica Slider, Yeah, I mean there's a
- 11:07Speaker 1: lot of concerns. One of the biggest issues is what
- 11:10Speaker 1: we've been talking about that it's not subject to USDA inspection.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Any of the you know, ingredients that are going into
- 11:18Speaker 1: the pet food are not reviewed by the government. They're
- 11:21Speaker 1: throwing dead animals in there, and youthanized animals and any
- 11:26Speaker 1: kind of biproduct. Why would you put dead animals in
- 11:29Speaker 1: in pet food? Why would there have to be dead
- 11:33Speaker 1: animals in pet food? It's inexpensive, it's profit for the
- 11:38Speaker 1: food in pet food industry. Okay, let me understand this.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Rodney Rodney had been Planet pause, are there dead animals
- 11:47Speaker 1: and pet food? Well, there's a lot of things that
- 11:49Speaker 1: go into pet food and this is a massive a
- 11:52Speaker 1: yes or no yes on that. Wow. Okay, Susan thinks
- 11:57Speaker 1: in joining me with truth about pet food web site
- 12:01Speaker 1: consumer advocate for the pet Susan, I need to understand
- 12:05Speaker 1: this because I've never until Laura began telling me what
- 12:11Speaker 1: had happened to dumpling. I had never heard of any
- 12:14Speaker 1: of this. I don't want to feed fat Boy or
- 12:18Speaker 1: Cinnamon or even the guinea pigs Abby and Chloe. I
- 12:22Speaker 1: don't want to feed anybody animal carcasses. Help me understand
- 12:28Speaker 1: what's happening in our our pets allegedly dying because of
- 12:33Speaker 1: unwinning consumers like me feeding them. This kind of pet
- 12:37Speaker 1: food susan absolutely nancy. They are and you use the
- 12:42Speaker 1: key word. The word is feed. Pet food is not
- 12:48Speaker 1: regulated as food. It is termed food, but pet food
- 12:53Speaker 1: is not held to any of the requirements that food is.
- 12:59Speaker 1: It is how to feed as in cattle feed, chicken feed,
- 13:04Speaker 1: stored in a barn, stored in fifty pound bags, and
- 13:07Speaker 1: fed on the ground. It is held to feed standards,
- 13:12Speaker 1: though it is termed food. On the FDA website right now,
- 13:17Speaker 1: they don't hide it. Uh. There are compliance policies, and
- 13:22Speaker 1: the FDA openly says it is acceptable for diseased animals
- 13:28Speaker 1: and animals that have died otherwise than by slaughter. It
- 13:32Speaker 1: is suitable quoting it is suitable for use in animal food.
- 13:37Speaker 1: That is a direct violation of the Federal Food, Drug
- 13:41Speaker 1: and Cosmetic Act. The Act defines food as anything consumed
- 13:47Speaker 1: by humans and animals, but FDA says, we're just not
- 13:53Speaker 1: going to enforce it with pet foods slash animal foods. UH.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Four teens states across the US also have state law
- 14:04Speaker 1: that um are very similar to the Food, Drug and
- 14:07Speaker 1: Cosmetic Act. But these fourteen states have laws that are
- 14:12Speaker 1: specific two animal food slash cut food. Florida, which is
- 14:18Speaker 1: the state I'm from, is one of these states. The
- 14:22Speaker 1: state law says specifically that it would be considered adulterated
- 14:27Speaker 1: if it contains any part of a diseased animal or
- 14:30Speaker 1: an animal which has got otherwise than by slaughter. But
- 14:34Speaker 1: the state of Florida does absolutely nothing to prevent this.
- 14:39Speaker 1: They turned the other way. As we were talking. I
- 14:42Speaker 1: just plugged into Google about treats or raw high treads
- 14:47Speaker 1: bad for your dog, and I looked up the latest
- 14:52Speaker 1: recalls on pet treats. I just happened to hit that one.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Listen to this chicken dog treats now linked to nine
- 15:00Speaker 1: hundred complaints of chicken jerky pet treats that cause death
- 15:05Speaker 1: or illness. Nine hundred reports of death or illness UH
- 15:13Speaker 1: since November. That's what I'm reading from from tooth that
- 15:18Speaker 1: those complaints started in two thousand and seven, and to date, Nancy,
- 15:25Speaker 1: the FDA has not given consumers an answer as to
- 15:30Speaker 1: why so many dogs have died and gotten sick. Rodney
- 15:35Speaker 1: is one of those pet owners from that treat. Okay,
- 15:40Speaker 1: we don't know what is causing the illnesses and deaths.
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- 18:03Speaker 1: partner today with me. Laura Beverage, Karen Becker, Rodney habib
- 18:09Speaker 1: Susan Thixton, and Jessica let Slater are saying our pets
- 18:13Speaker 1: are in danger. I mean, I'll be honest, it's all
- 18:16Speaker 1: I can do to keep the car in the middle
- 18:18Speaker 1: of the road. And what I mean by that is
- 18:20Speaker 1: to take care of the twins, to work full time,
- 18:23Speaker 1: and to do all the work really and a full
- 18:27Speaker 1: time job as a mom. I have to play guilty
- 18:30Speaker 1: to Karen Becker, you're the vet in the US and Canada.
- 18:33Speaker 1: I don't really read the ingredients on the dog food.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Uh No, I play guilty to that. I would never
- 18:40Speaker 1: even dream of it, right, And Nancy, you are among
- 18:44Speaker 1: millions of other pet parents that not only trust the
- 18:47Speaker 1: company's producing these products, but of course when you take
- 18:51Speaker 1: your blessed fuzzies to the veterinarian in veterinary school, we
- 18:55Speaker 1: are not taught about quality control, We're not taught about
- 18:57Speaker 1: the transparency issues going on within the pet food industry,
- 19:00Speaker 1: and most I think importantly, we're not really taught objective
- 19:05Speaker 1: veterinary nutritions. So we are as veterinarians and my profession,
- 19:09Speaker 1: we also have actually been involved, were part of those victims,
- 19:14Speaker 1: and that we were blindly trusting an industry that has
- 19:18Speaker 1: significant transparency issues. Significant and this feed versus food issue
- 19:25Speaker 1: is just the tip of the icebergs. So the frustration
- 19:28Speaker 1: for veterinarians, of course, is that we are responsible for
- 19:32Speaker 1: partnering with pet parents in terms of making sure that
- 19:35Speaker 1: we are taking care of our patients to the best
- 19:38Speaker 1: of our ability. But part of that means extending trust
- 19:41Speaker 1: to companies that are not being transparent. But not only
- 19:44Speaker 1: the raw materials going into the pet foods um But
- 19:47Speaker 1: you asked a great question, how did use that n
- 19:49Speaker 1: asia solution get into food and treat? That begs the
- 19:54Speaker 1: question of what dead animals that were youthanized? So what
- 19:59Speaker 1: animals do we use? And eye we euthan eyes um
- 20:01Speaker 1: we humanely uh overdosed with sodium pina barbital beloved pets
- 20:07Speaker 1: so that they don't have to die in egg and
- 20:08Speaker 1: all death. So animals that are euthanized, of course, are
- 20:12Speaker 1: filled with drugs that should never get into the food chain.
- 20:15Speaker 1: And yet we know that there are drug residues of
- 20:17Speaker 1: animals that have died of euthanasia, which then the question is, well,
- 20:21Speaker 1: what what animals? What animals hold on I've got an update.
- 20:26Speaker 1: The chicken cheese, the chicken jerky. That chicken jerky was
- 20:31Speaker 1: made in China. Okay, so I don't know what regulations
- 20:37Speaker 1: they have in China. The FDA website will have a
- 20:43Speaker 1: list of recalls. You can go to FDA dot gov.
- 20:47Speaker 1: There's a cab for animals slash of that Mirria, I believe,
- 20:52Speaker 1: and on the right hand side of the page will
- 20:54Speaker 1: be a link for recalls. However, consumers are not going
- 21:00Speaker 1: to find out if there are any deaths related to
- 21:03Speaker 1: a pet food, how many illnesses have been related to
- 21:07Speaker 1: a pet food. They would literally have to file freedom
- 21:10Speaker 1: of information that request for each and every product and
- 21:16Speaker 1: keep following those requests. And that's whether FDA will actually
- 21:20Speaker 1: give you accurate information. Rodney had been Planet Pause. The
- 21:27Speaker 1: allegations that justicas later it's about about to bring in
- 21:34Speaker 1: a class action lawsuit include illness and death, illness and
- 21:38Speaker 1: death of our pets because of what Rodney, Well, this
- 21:44Speaker 1: is a long series of events there, and I have
- 21:46Speaker 1: a pet myself who is of our kidneys are gone
- 21:49Speaker 1: from those exact chicken jerkey strips that you're talking about,
- 21:52Speaker 1: highlighting that they're made in China and we don't know
- 21:55Speaker 1: that as pet parents. In fact, on the package just
- 21:57Speaker 1: says assembled or put together or just distributed in the
- 22:00Speaker 1: United States. To play on words for the average consumer.
- 22:04Speaker 1: But to go back and to talk about what Jessica
- 22:07Speaker 1: is bringing to the limelight, we have so many issues
- 22:10Speaker 1: right now circulating within pet food. We have research and
- 22:12Speaker 1: studies around the world popping up things like high levels
- 22:16Speaker 1: bp A that are being found in let's say, cans
- 22:19Speaker 1: of pet food because of the seal and the glue.
- 22:22Speaker 1: We're finding ink from the pet food which is making
- 22:25Speaker 1: its way into pet food, where researchers right now in
- 22:27Speaker 1: Europe have showed that it's decreased the sterility of animals
- 22:32Speaker 1: by two percent globally. Because of these issues that are
- 22:36Speaker 1: that are surmounting in the pet foods, you have applatoxins
- 22:38Speaker 1: that are coming in from the grain of the grain
- 22:41Speaker 1: industry now in the United States, and these aplatoxin levels
- 22:44Speaker 1: that Susan herself has funded studies and found that these
- 22:49Speaker 1: levels are way beyond the legal limits. And so when
- 22:53Speaker 1: you're bringing these things in, these dyes that are in
- 22:55Speaker 1: the food today. We're looking at any bag of food
- 22:58Speaker 1: that you go out there and get, it's full of
- 22:59Speaker 1: calm or what are those colors? You're looking at red
- 23:02Speaker 1: number forty, you're looking at blue and yellow dyes, and
- 23:05Speaker 1: these guys are known carcinogens today. The problem is they'll
- 23:08Speaker 1: tell you that a small dose isn't an issue, but
- 23:11Speaker 1: what happens when an animal is consuming that over an
- 23:14Speaker 1: extended period of time? And these are things that I
- 23:16Speaker 1: believe Jessica and the rest of the pet parents in
- 23:19Speaker 1: the world, they really want to know why this is happening. Well,
- 23:25Speaker 1: rumors about the remains of dead cats and dogs being
- 23:31Speaker 1: put into pet food have been floating around out there
- 23:34Speaker 1: for I would say twenty years, but proof of this
- 23:38Speaker 1: is still sketchy to some would argue non existent. To
- 23:44Speaker 1: Jessica Slater, what proof do you have that makes you
- 23:49Speaker 1: think there are rendered carcasses in pet food? So in
- 23:55Speaker 1: our Avengers class action to my clients fed their pets
- 24:02Speaker 1: this Avinger's product that was supposed to be human grade,
- 24:06Speaker 1: and within less than fifteen minutes they started acting disoriented,
- 24:12Speaker 1: almost intoxicated, and they were rushed to an emergency vet,
- 24:17Speaker 1: and one of the dogs ended up dying because it
- 24:21Speaker 1: was so close in connection to them eating the food.
- 24:25Speaker 1: There was a necropsy done of the animal that died,
- 24:29Speaker 1: and in that necropsy, which also the FDA was involved
- 24:32Speaker 1: with and sent off for testing the stomach contents, they
- 24:36Speaker 1: actually the scientists a toxicologists found this euthanasia drug in
- 24:41Speaker 1: the dog's stomach contents, and then it led to testing
- 24:45Speaker 1: the cans and testing the food, and both of those
- 24:48Speaker 1: came back positive for this pent barbite hall, which is
- 24:51Speaker 1: the euthanasia drug. So, I mean, I don't know about you, Nancy,
- 24:55Speaker 1: but that seems like it's pretty clear evidence that that's
- 24:58Speaker 1: what's going on. There are only no federal enforcement of
- 25:02Speaker 1: standards for the content of pet food. Now. The FDA,
- 25:06Speaker 1: as we were told earlier, technically has authority, but the
- 25:10Speaker 1: agency has really passed this off to non governmental organizations
- 25:16Speaker 1: and partnerships that really encourage voluntary compliance. Um, you know,
- 25:24Speaker 1: back to you, Laura Beverage, what makes you believe that
- 25:30Speaker 1: animal carcasses, dies, and so forth are in our pet
- 25:34Speaker 1: food and it's actually making dogs sick, pets sick and
- 25:40Speaker 1: pass away across the country. Nancy, What I learned, unfortunately,
- 25:44Speaker 1: and what I continue to learn, and it's so upsetting
- 25:47Speaker 1: every day, is that labels are not what you think.
- 25:52Speaker 1: I am in the human health side. When I read
- 25:54Speaker 1: a label on something, I believe that label. When I
- 25:57Speaker 1: read the label for the product that that took our
- 26:02Speaker 1: precious dumpling from us UM, I realized through a lot
- 26:07Speaker 1: of hard work that that label did not represent the
- 26:12Speaker 1: product that I bought. I would never have bought the product.
- 26:15Speaker 1: And everyday consumers are buying these products that have they
- 26:20Speaker 1: lift chicken or they lift beef by products, but when
- 26:24Speaker 1: you read the real definitions of those you realize people
- 26:28Speaker 1: don't know what they're buying. And it's happened, and another
- 26:32Speaker 1: dog has died from from the product that killed my girl,
- 26:36Speaker 1: and nothing's been done, and this is happening with so
- 26:39Speaker 1: many products. Nancy, it's you. You just can't believe. And
- 26:44Speaker 1: I hate myself for not understanding that. But I'm I'm
- 26:48Speaker 1: learning and I'm going to continue to learn more. I
- 26:51Speaker 1: hope we're all going to the pet food industry has
- 26:54Speaker 1: denied these allegations for years, but reports just keep happening,
- 26:59Speaker 1: even and claims pet food companies continue to use euthanized
- 27:04Speaker 1: pets to make dog food. Is it possible? Can it happen?
- 27:12Speaker 1: We have to understand the allegations are very very serious
- 27:19Speaker 1: and if they are true, could bring down giants within
- 27:24Speaker 1: the pet food industry. So anonymous sources, people not willing
- 27:29Speaker 1: to go on the record. That's that's not helping. So,
- 27:33Speaker 1: Jessica Slater, you're bringing a lawsuit alleging what that animal
- 27:38Speaker 1: carcasses are used. What exactly are you alleging in your lawsuits? Well,
- 27:41Speaker 1: we're alleging that the pet food companies, and as I said,
- 27:47Speaker 1: this is not necessarily specific to Laura's situation, but it's
- 27:51Speaker 1: also the Avenger situation, and many others are falsely labeling
- 27:55Speaker 1: their products in order to defraud consumers like Laura, who
- 28:00Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault. She did the investigation. She tried
- 28:03Speaker 1: to buy the better food, but instead ended up with
- 28:07Speaker 1: a bad product that was the same as any other
- 28:09Speaker 1: product that's not advertised as something that it's not. And
- 28:13Speaker 1: because of that, Laura and my clients in the Avengers
- 28:18Speaker 1: class action lost their pets or their pets were sick
- 28:23Speaker 1: became sick from eating these products. Not to mention, you know,
- 28:27Speaker 1: the economic harm of buying a product that's advertised is
- 28:30Speaker 1: something that's that's not well? Let me ask you this,
- 28:35Speaker 1: Karen Becker, veterinarian both in the US and in Canada.
- 28:39Speaker 1: If you look on the back of the ingredients, you
- 28:42Speaker 1: see things like vague terms like meatmeal or um. You
- 28:48Speaker 1: don't really know what the components of the dog food are. Now,
- 28:53Speaker 1: are there actual claims, Karen Becker that pets have died
- 28:57Speaker 1: because of this? Uh? Yes, Nancy, And so you you
- 29:00Speaker 1: bring up a good point when you see something on
- 29:02Speaker 1: the back of your food label that says meat meal?
- 29:04Speaker 1: What type of meat is it? Is it? How is
- 29:08Speaker 1: it pig? Is it chicken? Is it turkey? Did it
- 29:11Speaker 1: die of natural causes in the field? Did it die
- 29:14Speaker 1: by slaughter? Was it helping when it was slaughtered? What
- 29:16Speaker 1: pieces and parts go into pet food? So, in essence, Nancy,
- 29:20Speaker 1: what's happening is the pet food industry is a beautiful
- 29:24Speaker 1: dumping ground for everything not approved for human consumption. So
- 29:28Speaker 1: things that are approved by human consumption, things approved by
- 29:31Speaker 1: USDA food inspectors go into the human food industry where
- 29:35Speaker 1: it's effectively healthfully inspected. Everything that fails inspections or all
- 29:40Speaker 1: of the pieces and parts that humans cannot eat that
- 29:44Speaker 1: goes into pet food. And that's the problem. You're not buying.
- 29:50Speaker 1: The images on the label don't portray that it is
- 29:55Speaker 1: garbage and and basically that's what they are. If it
- 29:59Speaker 1: is of it, okay, then label it as such. Consumers
- 30:04Speaker 1: are led to believe that they are buying the steak
- 30:09Speaker 1: picture of it on the label. Why why would it
- 30:11Speaker 1: not be steaked? So um if it if it is garbage,
- 30:16Speaker 1: and then it should not should be labeled as garbage.
- 30:19Speaker 1: It should not mislead the consumer and that it's something else.
- 30:24Speaker 1: They'd be better off digging out of their neighbor's garbage
- 30:27Speaker 1: can to feed their dog then going out and spending
- 30:30Speaker 1: money for a product that is basically no different than
- 30:34Speaker 1: what's in their neighbor's garbage can. Part of what we
- 30:36Speaker 1: look at from a legal perspective is if a consumers
- 30:41Speaker 1: able to make an informed decision about the products that
- 30:45Speaker 1: they're purchasing, which, as Susan said, in the realm of
- 30:48Speaker 1: pet food, sometimes you're looking at products that consumer, even
- 30:54Speaker 1: when it's educated and that's looking to buy a better product,
- 30:58Speaker 1: isn't able to discern from the labels and they can't
- 31:02Speaker 1: make this informed decision, especially as to the health risk
- 31:06Speaker 1: that their pets might be facing from eating that food.
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- 34:37Speaker 1: How many animals do you believe, Jessica later, are in
- 34:41Speaker 1: the complaints that have died or been sick because of
- 34:46Speaker 1: pet food? Oh? I mean right now? We have in
- 34:52Speaker 1: our Avengers class action. Uh. I've received calls from probably
- 34:58Speaker 1: nearly sevent people that have had, you know, situations where
- 35:04Speaker 1: their dogs became sick. And obviously we know with Laura
- 35:09Speaker 1: and someone else that they were they lost their pets
- 35:13Speaker 1: to the no hyde treat I mean there's probably countless
- 35:17Speaker 1: numbers of people, which you mentioned earlier, didn't know why
- 35:21Speaker 1: their pet died, and their pet could have died from
- 35:23Speaker 1: the same thing. Like Rodney said too, we don't know
- 35:27Speaker 1: what the long term effects of some of these things
- 35:29Speaker 1: that are in the pet food is either well, I mean,
- 35:31Speaker 1: let's get real about it. Let me break it down
- 35:33Speaker 1: into regular people talk at the front of your dog
- 35:36Speaker 1: fed said, uh, this is fortified with dead dog mate.
- 35:42Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't put it in fat
- 35:44Speaker 1: boy's bowl. Pet food is made from a lot of
- 35:48Speaker 1: unusual things, and if you look at the ingredients, you
- 35:51Speaker 1: don't know. They want you to think that they are fat, healthy,
- 35:55Speaker 1: free range chickens walking around in somebody's backyard out in
- 35:58Speaker 1: the country, beautiful veggies. Um. But when you're paying fifteen
- 36:04Speaker 1: bucks for a fifteen pound bag, thank it through, thank
- 36:09Speaker 1: it through, You're not getting sirloin, all right? That's not
- 36:12Speaker 1: what is in there? What is in there? Well, that's
- 36:17Speaker 1: a great question. So what most people don't recognize about
- 36:20Speaker 1: pet food is that the majority of pet food is
- 36:23Speaker 1: inappropriate fillers, so corn, wheat, rice, soy, all of these carbohydrates,
- 36:30Speaker 1: these starches that are biologically not appropriate for carnivores, which
- 36:34Speaker 1: is what dogs and cats are. People think that there's
- 36:36Speaker 1: great quality steak or you know, really wonderful quality meats
- 36:41Speaker 1: going into those pet foods, but that's just unfortunately not
- 36:43Speaker 1: with the bulk of the pet food is made up of.
- 36:46Speaker 1: It's these rendered inappropriate, high sugar content grains that or
- 36:52Speaker 1: or potatoes that go into pet foods, and that's part
- 36:55Speaker 1: of the issue. But then of course the quality control
- 36:58Speaker 1: of not only the grains going is but also the
- 37:00Speaker 1: meat is a huge issue pertaining to to not only
- 37:05Speaker 1: impacting the health of the animals, but also the quality
- 37:09Speaker 1: and the taxis that can be included with the raw
- 37:11Speaker 1: materials going into pet foods ultimately means that there can
- 37:14Speaker 1: be acute deaths like we've seen, but also the slow, quiet,
- 37:18Speaker 1: insidious degeneration of organs as well as overall animals not
- 37:22Speaker 1: feeling well, you know, they have difficult for veterinarians to
- 37:25Speaker 1: diagnose in terms of why animals aren't thriving. But it
- 37:28Speaker 1: doesn't automatically mean the animals will die instantly once they
- 37:31Speaker 1: eat these foods, as some of these pet parents have experienced.
- 37:35Speaker 1: As veterinarians, we have the very difficult task of trying
- 37:37Speaker 1: to discern why animals just aren't doing as well as
- 37:39Speaker 1: they should be, are not living as long as their
- 37:41Speaker 1: lifespans should be dictated well. Right now, the cancer rate,
- 37:45Speaker 1: according to the people in the trenches, the veterinarians, is
- 37:48Speaker 1: one and two dogs. This is a massive issue. When
- 37:51Speaker 1: the pet owner goes to remove a bag of pet
- 37:53Speaker 1: food off the shelf and swips around the side, you
- 37:55Speaker 1: have your guaranteed analysis which make up the majority of
- 37:58Speaker 1: a bag of pet food. All always on the very
- 38:00Speaker 1: top comes protein, fats, moisture, ash. But the actual number
- 38:05Speaker 1: one source of energy, which trumps all of those that
- 38:08Speaker 1: should be on the very top is hidden and nor
- 38:10Speaker 1: has it been ever put on a bag of pet foods.
- 38:12Speaker 1: So when you have a dog with cancer and you're
- 38:14Speaker 1: told and instructed that of course sugar will fuel cancer
- 38:18Speaker 1: as a consumer, when you remove that bag off the shelf,
- 38:20Speaker 1: that number one source those high starches, those carbon hybrates
- 38:24Speaker 1: are not listed on a bag aside from an acuba
- 38:27Speaker 1: of the effect. You get a dog with a tumor
- 38:29Speaker 1: on the side of it and you feed that bag
- 38:31Speaker 1: that's over starch, you're gonna watch that thing blow up
- 38:34Speaker 1: overnight on your animal. And that is a huge problem
- 38:36Speaker 1: for today's BA owner. Under f d A rigs, only
- 38:39Speaker 1: about fifty of a cow can be sold for human consumption. Okay,
- 38:46Speaker 1: the high bones, digestive system, brain faces, utters, other quote
- 38:53Speaker 1: undesirable parts are left over. Where does that go? That
- 38:57Speaker 1: can't even go to hot dogs? Well, Nancy, here is
- 39:01Speaker 1: the to touch on what you just said about approximately
- 39:04Speaker 1: the animal that's being used. Now, if you talk to
- 39:05Speaker 1: the National Renders Association, this is our problem. In fact,
- 39:10Speaker 1: they're trying to come into the answer to what we're causing.
- 39:14Speaker 1: And the statistics that they're churning out right now on
- 39:16Speaker 1: their website would say that we slaughter ten point to
- 39:19Speaker 1: billion animals a year in America. And so if you
- 39:22Speaker 1: can only use fifty of those, and you topple that
- 39:25Speaker 1: with two billion pounds of left over scraps from the
- 39:28Speaker 1: grocery stores that are being purchased, they collect fifty six
- 39:32Speaker 1: billion pounds of raw material every year in the US
- 39:35Speaker 1: and in Canada, So you'd fill up every single major
- 39:38Speaker 1: landfill in the world in four years if you didn't
- 39:41Speaker 1: do anything with that meat. And that right now is
- 39:44Speaker 1: a massive issue that's happening not just in America but globally.
- 39:48Speaker 1: So what did the slaughterhouses do with that? A rendering
- 39:53Speaker 1: plant as a huge grinder that is filled with whatever
- 39:58Speaker 1: comes in. Some plants are choosier than others. Will some
- 40:03Speaker 1: plants take whole carcasses of disease animals, cats and dogs,
- 40:08Speaker 1: and shelters, zoo animals, road kill, expired meat. What what
- 40:13Speaker 1: is in there? And is it making your pet sick?
- 40:18Speaker 1: Is it killing your pet? That's an excellent question. Um
- 40:24Speaker 1: it would cost you a hundred dollars a year hundred
- 40:27Speaker 1: and ten and ten dollars a year to find out
- 40:30Speaker 1: the answer. All pet food ingredients are defined, and their
- 40:36Speaker 1: definitions are very different from the counter food and human
- 40:43Speaker 1: petriod chicken is different than human food chicken. Petrod beef
- 40:47Speaker 1: is different than human food beef. They each have their
- 40:50Speaker 1: own definition and those definitions are not public information. Everything
- 40:57Speaker 1: in human food is public. If that man might not
- 41:02Speaker 1: be easy for consumers to find and muddle through all
- 41:06Speaker 1: the laws, but it's out there if you want to
- 41:09Speaker 1: read it. It is not public in pet foods there
- 41:12Speaker 1: they are corporately owned by the American Association of Feed
- 41:17Speaker 1: Control Officials and copyright protected, so consumers don't even have
- 41:23Speaker 1: access to this information when they want to do the
- 41:27Speaker 1: home I will tell you that I was heartbroken. I
- 41:31Speaker 1: didn't know what direction to go in, but I knew
- 41:35Speaker 1: I had to get to someone. I did finally find
- 41:39Speaker 1: out that the FDA has a reporting site. I reported
- 41:42Speaker 1: to the FDA. I called my Department of Agriculture. It
- 41:47Speaker 1: took hours to do these reports, and it took hours
- 41:50Speaker 1: for them to come in and do the paperwork. Um,
- 41:55Speaker 1: it's it's not easy for someone to do and a
- 41:58Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that those reports are available
- 42:01Speaker 1: to fill out the Department of Agriculture. And then realized
- 42:05Speaker 1: from my report that this product was not even legally
- 42:09Speaker 1: registered to sail in the state of Georgia, and that's
- 42:12Speaker 1: different in every state. So there there are so many
- 42:16Speaker 1: reasons that you need to report, both at a state
- 42:19Speaker 1: level and at the FDA level, But again, it's hard
- 42:22Speaker 1: to do. It's time consuming. The average person does not
- 42:26Speaker 1: know where to go to find out how to do
- 42:28Speaker 1: these reports, and we have to increase the education on this.
- 42:32Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Alan Deep, haven't there been
- 42:36Speaker 1: some lawsuits filed? Nancy, Yes, there are other lawsuits, including
- 42:41Speaker 1: one filed by a Texas pet owner, Wendy Black, who's
- 42:45Speaker 1: suing Party Animal, Inc. And Avenger's Dog and Cat food
- 42:48Speaker 1: company in Los Angeles court. Black is trying to have
- 42:51Speaker 1: her complaint turned into a class action lawsuit. If approved,
- 42:55Speaker 1: that means anybody who bought Party Animal organic brand dog
- 42:58Speaker 1: food in the past four years could join it. Party Animal,
- 43:01Speaker 1: by the way, is the brand. Avengers is the maker
- 43:05Speaker 1: of the product. Black lawsuit claimed she fed two varieties
- 43:08Speaker 1: of Party Animals Cocalicious canned dog food to Bianca, a
- 43:12Speaker 1: miniature Snauser. Bianca allegedly became very ill after eating it,
- 43:17Speaker 1: so Black took her to a vent and the vet
- 43:19Speaker 1: had to treat her, including giving the dog ivy fluids.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Because Black believed it was the Party Animal food that
- 43:26Speaker 1: made Bianca six, she wrote to the store where she
- 43:29Speaker 1: bought it. Soon after that, the manufacturer called her asked
- 43:32Speaker 1: her to send the remaining cans of food to them.
- 43:35Speaker 1: She did, but she kept some of the cans which
- 43:38Speaker 1: she had tested by scientists at Texas A and M.
- 43:41Speaker 1: The lawsuit alleges those tests were positive for pinto barbatall.
- 43:46Speaker 1: That is a drug used to euthanize animals. That's right,
- 43:51Speaker 1: that was in the food. Allegedly, contrary to the label,
- 43:54Speaker 1: the dog food did not contain coconut oil as had
- 43:57Speaker 1: been advertised, And just weeks after black Party Animal recalled
- 44:01Speaker 1: two lots of its co colicious canned dog food for
- 44:04Speaker 1: possible contamination with pentop barbital, which, as I said, as
- 44:08Speaker 1: an animal euthanasia drug. Also now interestingly, Party Animal is
- 44:13Speaker 1: now suing Avengers, the maker of the dog food, because
- 44:17Speaker 1: of the alleged contamination. Laura Beverage um tell me about Dumpling,
- 44:24Speaker 1: who I'm very familiar with Nancy as as a heartbroken
- 44:28Speaker 1: um pat owner. Dumplin was the center of our household.
- 44:33Speaker 1: She protected my children. We have epilepsy in my haffle.
- 44:39Speaker 1: She was intuitive in terms of protecting one or two
- 44:44Speaker 1: of my boys. They took that away from me. I
- 44:47Speaker 1: need to know as a consumer, who's minding the store,
- 44:51Speaker 1: who is overseeing um the labels, who I pay my taxes?
- 44:56Speaker 1: My state gets gets tax money from people who by
- 45:00Speaker 1: pet products. Why are they not protecting our pets? Why
- 45:05Speaker 1: are they not overseeing the labels? Why are they not
- 45:09Speaker 1: ensuring that When I go in and buy something and
- 45:12Speaker 1: I read this, I never said raw had. I read
- 45:17Speaker 1: this as the most incredible alternative. It says the safe
- 45:22Speaker 1: raw had alternative. It says safe, safe, safe, all over
- 45:26Speaker 1: human grade. I made an educated decision and I failed her.
- 45:32Speaker 1: So I need somebody to mind the store. Laura Beverage,
- 45:36Speaker 1: Karen Becker, Rodney Habib Susan Fixton, Jessicae Later to all
- 45:42Speaker 1: of you, Thank you, Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off,
- 45:47Speaker 1: goodbye friend,