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Ken's back from vacation, Cards over Cubs, Ken has an announcement & Caitlin and the Fevers struggles · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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  Tuesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network, Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next two hours to
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  talk sports with you. Thank you for starting your
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  afternoon with us wherever you are in the state of Iowa.
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  Grateful that you are here. Coming up on the program, not a
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  lot going on our number one, but certainly in our number 2.
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  The guest list ramps up. Frank Schwab is in the midst of
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  doing his countdown of NFL teams.
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  He unveils starts at 32, works his way down to #1 believe he
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  was at 25 and never checked today.
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  Last couple of days, the New York teams have both arrived in
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  it. Well, it's brutal when you see
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  your team in the 20s, know what lies ahead in most cases.
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  Not that he's always right, but you get the drift.
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  Frank Schwab coming up at 1:00. We'll talk NFL with Frank Schwab
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  from yahoosports.com. And then Scott Dockerman's got a
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  terrific piece in The Athletic today.
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  Last week when he joined us, Trent, he mentioned that he's
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  working on a piece with Kirk Ference had a sit down with Kirk
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  Ference that was published this morning at the Athletic.
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  And man, oh man, just when you think you know the man or you
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  think you would have an idea he could have been more off.
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  I mean, he's he's he's all he's embracing what's going on in
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  college sports as far as the payments to the athletes,
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  etcetera. And good for you, Kirk Ference
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  being willing to change and everybody has to at some point.
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  So we'll talk to Doc about that and other topics when he joins
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  us about 125. Trump will make some picks at
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  150 Circa Sports sponsor those and away we go to turn things
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  over to the drive today with Lucas and Sean as Heather did
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  the morning. Now she's gone.
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  She's she's off on a an Alaska cruise.
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  Is that where it was? Alaska?
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  This. Yeah.
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  I lose track of all of her trips, boy.
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  She's a world traveller, right? I mean, she gets home for a
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  couple of weeks and boom, off to Ireland.
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  Not too shabby. I couldn't do it.
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  That's a that's a lot of travel, but good.
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  Good for her. My parents took Alaska cruises.
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  Raved the bottom. Yeah.
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  Raved the bottom. In fact, went back another year,
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  the very next year because they just couldn't get out of their
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  minds. So hopefully she has a good
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  time, but she'll be gone for a couple of weeks.
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  And this afternoon, Sean and Lucas will take the afternoon
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  show. So you had a little sojourn of
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  your own? I did.
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  Trent, it was a disaster. Thanks for asking.
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  No, again. Yeah.
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  You know we can't win so. You can't you in terms of
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  vacations, trips. Yeah, we got snowed in when we
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  were going to Colorado, right, and for our winter vacation.
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  So this year, we're flying over it, yes.
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  That makes more sense. Jumping on a plane.
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  But so we ran into place in Dubuque.
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  I thought we were in Galena, but we were in Dubuque and we
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  weren't in Galena because Galena was mobbed this weekend.
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  There's a place to be mobbed. Yes.
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  So we check into our place. It was built in 1886.
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  Nice old home. That's cool.
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  It is. It's up on a bluff.
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  So first of all, you get out of the car and Oh my God, I walk
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  all those stairs and, and I'm the the pack mule cause Jeff's
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  not carrying anything and Cindy's not going to.
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  But that aside. So we get in, figure everything
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  out. Looks like a nice place.
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  Love Dubuque. I've been there once before.
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  Really thought it was cool and sitting out on the deck and all
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  of a sudden you could, I could hear something under the deck.
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  And then, you know, kind of what's going on.
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  Must be a squirrel or something, right?
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  So Jet's running around in the backyard and Jet's a little dog,
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  right? And all of a sudden up from
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  under the deck comes a woodchuck, a female woodchuck
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  with two baby woodchucks, OK. And we're not happy with Jet and
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  Jet wasn't happy with them. And the woodchuck started to
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  come towards Jet and I snatched him up and we came home on
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  Saturday. So odd enough of that.
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  Got there Friday, home on Saturday, supposed to come home
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  yesterday. It's just, it's just incredible
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  the streak of luck that we're on with these things.
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  Are woodchucks mean? Well, this one was, I, I guess
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  any animal with babies, very protective, very protective and
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  elevates a little bit. And I wasn't going to find out
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  if Jet was going to beat the Woodchuck or the woodchuck was
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  going to be Jet, because that's the last thing I needed was a
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  vet bill because they do get pricey.
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  So anyways, we checked, we stayed for a little bit on
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  Saturday and got in the car and came home and did nothing.
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  Nothing. Watched the NBA Finals on on
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  Sunday. I'm sure I know you talked about
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  it yesterday because I know what type of show you do.
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  It's just that the whole Halliburton thing, right?
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  It kind of overshadows the win doesn't.
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  It oh, it still does, and I think it will.
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  National or is it just here? No, it's national.
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  Yeah. I think, you know, listening to
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  some other places and and it's a huge part of the picture.
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  You had this so unlikely team and the Pacers were if they
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  would have won the most unlikely champion we probably ever had in
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  the NBA. And they're on the precipice of
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  that. Yes.
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  And the way that Halliburton came out, Oh my.
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  God, he's on fire. You know, if we we saw Game 5
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  Halliburton, OK, we saw the heights of Halliburton.
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  He was about. To take over he was away, scored
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  nine points in 7 minutes. Van Pelt said something I
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  thought really interesting, he said.
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  There's probably one person on that planet at that time that
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  had that feeling. SGA wasn't feeling that.
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  No, I thought, I thought he was tight.
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  Absolutely. You know, they missed a ton of
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  shots. And we talk about that rare
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  fight era when we talk about Michael Jordan and those clutch
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  moments and we talk about the greats.
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  Those are the moments. And for those first 6 minutes, 6
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  minutes and 55 seconds, it felt like this could be Tyrese
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  Halliburton's time because he was carrying himself differently
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  than anybody else on the floor. He looked like he was feeling
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  different than anybody else on the floor.
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  And then not just to go down, but you knew right away.
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  You knew it as soon as you slowed it down.
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  You saw the replay, but you know, rolling up his calf.
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  You see that? Siren Rogers.
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  Same deal exactly. You go back to Durant, go to
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  Kobe, you look at all the different times and the three
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  Times Now it's happened this playoff to star players.
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  All wearing #0. All wearing #0.
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  I mean, come on. And you go through that now I
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  mentioned yesterday as David Eichelt was sitting in with.
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  Oh, good, Yeah. I thought, you know, that middle
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  kind of lull the second quarter, it was almost like the Thunder
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  were more impacted even than the Pacers because the Pacers were,
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  hey, let's pick each other up. We're still here to win.
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  The Thunder, just what's going on?
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  It was that the energy of the crowd at the beginning compared
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  to what it was throughout most of the second quarter, it was
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  just, it was so weird. And the whole picture comes back
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  to Tyrese Halliburton. And look, if the Thunder go on
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  and they win, 3 the next 4, you know, 4, the next six, OK, this
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  was step one. And remember how tough it was
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  against the Pacers? That'll be the conversation.
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  But if this is it for the Thunder, if they have their own
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  injury, if they get upset next year in the plastic, if it just
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  doesn't click for whatever. The last seven years say that it
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  is it is going to be it for the and if if that's.
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  The case, I think this thing's going to be painted in a
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  different way, but the Pacers are going to be remembered for a
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  team that lost in the Finals, I think, for a really long time.
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  And Tyrese Halliburton a huge part of that.
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  But I just enjoyed watching this Pacers team so much.
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  We've talked about McConnell, the Thunder great defensive
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  team, don't like the way SGA, you know, hunts for free throws.
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  And because of that, I was rooting for the Pacers.
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  I and I just love the stories of these guys, the way they were
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  built. It it's it will be a very
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  memorable team. I know for me.
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  Now I'm I'm with you. Is, is Dagnell, the Thunder
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  coach, the least recognizable championship coach in any sport
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  in history? Very well could be.
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  I mean, seriously, right? Yeah.
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  That's a good list, going through and looking at the list
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  of of. Forgettable coaches.
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  Who is this guy and how how did his team win?
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  Yes, I mean, he's got to be I'm not I'm not minimizing his
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  coaching ability. He just coached champion.
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  But I mean, you could seriously get 10 sports fans give put them
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  in a police lineup and pick out, you know, the NBA coach, a lot
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  of them would miss. I I think you could have 100
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  people and I don't know how many.
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  If you get more in a handful that'd be able to name him.
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  I didn't tell Sunday night. I don't know if I would have
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  even as much Thunder as I watched throughout the playoffs.
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  It's just unassuming, you know, younger guy got that jet black
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  hair and. Did you think that there was a
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  chance late in the game that Oh my God, the Patriot just not
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  going away, They're going to end up covering this game.
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  Did what did you do in the game? Did you, did you take the points
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  or did you play period? I laid it, I laid the seven.
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  Did you on Sunday? So were you a little nervous at
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  all 'cause it was getting a little 'cause it was 10, right,
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  It got it was 10? It got to 10 and I said that
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  with David yesterday. So when it got to 10, it was
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  just that moment. Any other team this thing's over
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  because of what we saw from the Pacers, though, throughout this
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  playoffs, it had that They can't do this again, Kenneth, but if
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  Albert, But if there was one team, even minus Halliburton,
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  that you would say could do it, it was this squad.
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  And that's why I think a lot of people became enamored with them
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  because of that. Yes, we have the local angle,
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  but I think on a national level they became a team that was just
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  so fun to. Root for the country, Trent.
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  Yeah, because you saw the the the numbers for game seven were
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  astronomical for two small quote, small market franchises
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  nobody's gonna watch. I mean, how many times did you
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  hear that leading up to it? I'm sure we said it, but but
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  people did watch and I think they were entertained.
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  And then it's just what could have been.
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  You'll never know, right? You'll never know.
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  But man, the start that he had, and this isn't going to be any
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  time. Well, you'll see him in
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  November. No, you won't.
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  You may not see him in 2000. This upcoming season 2526, he
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  may not be able to answer the bell.
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  But that's probably the likelihood of the way it's going
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  to go for them. And now something we didn't get
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  to yesterday is outside of Cleveland.
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  Who wins the East? Who is it Orlando?
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  Should Orlando be the second choice?
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  And I haven't looked at the odds to win the East, but after going
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  out, the one thing they needed was shooting.
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  They go out and get a great shooter.
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  Is the Orlando Magic, should they be the second choice?
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  They got some good young dudes. You're not going to have Jason
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  Tatum with the. Celtics.
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  No, they don't. Completely reinvent themselves
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  in the way that they're going. To trade a drew holiday today.
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  They are going to look so much different and maybe this is just
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  going to be here, that for all intents and purposes, they punt.
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  Cleveland didn't get it done again in the playoffs.
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  They lost in the second round to this Pacers team on the Pacers.
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  Knicks apparently are going to go into the season without a
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  head coach. They're I saw they're
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  interviewing the T. Wolves assistant.
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  I saw that. Yeah.
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  Who? Saw a couple of times last year.
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  There's nobody that you love. I mean, if you're a team like
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  Atlanta, do you make some moves to say there was ever a window?
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  Which right, Young, this is it. And as we know in sport, and I
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  think it's becoming increasingly more rare to be able to create
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  dynasties, those windows close so fast.
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  If you're a team in the East, you got even a glimmer of hope.
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  Go for it this year. Somebody's going to represent
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  them. Yeah, somebody will be there.
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  Somebody will make it. Without Halliburton, you just
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  wonder and as you mentioned, without without Tatum, what does
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  that do to the Celtics next? Don't have a coach.
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  You know, some of the teams that were in there till the bitter
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  end, Cleveland probably would be the favorite.
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  I mean, I would assume right now they're probably the
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  overwhelming favorite. Oh yeah.
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  I mean, they got to be like plus 210 or something like that, I
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  would anticipate. So just to win the to win the
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  East. To win the East.
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  Yeah, conference winner. Here it is.
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  This is from DraftKings in the Eastern Cup.
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  Plus 260 for the Cavaliers. Knicks are the second betting
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  choice of plus 290. Celtics 5 to 1.
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  And there's the magic of plus 550.
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  Desmond Bain coming in knocking out some shots.
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  I like the young nucleus that they have to.
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  You like prices? What are they?
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  Plus 550. Well worth it to have.
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  How about the Pistons at 60? To what you know what this?
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  Is an up and coming team. Rightly is Is there a move for
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  the Pistons that they can make to come in and create?
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  Who, who did they play in the first round of the playoffs?
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  It was gonna do you remember? It was, it was, it was going to
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  be a dogfight. Pistons had a chance.
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  Was it the Knicks? It was the Knicks.
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  It was the Knicks, right? It was the Knicks.
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  You're 100% right and and the Knicks weren't a foregone
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  conclusion in that. I remember that.
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  Now, 'cause it was, what, 4/2 And there were two games that
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  were coin flips right down at the end, right?
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  That very well could have gone their way.
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  Pistons, you got anything that you can do?
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  Well, it's 16 to one. You're hoping if you buy that
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  ticket and put it in your back pocket and sit on it for a
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  while, we'll we'll see where it goes.
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  Baseball from last night, the Cubs are, I mean, what do you
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  got to do with Brown? What do you do with them?
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  He's not going to be a rotational piece for a playoff
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  team. No.
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  No, he's not. You don't need 5.
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  He's a two pitch guy. Do you just do it now?
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  You're going to want to augment the bullpen in some way.
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  Is the time now with? Because he went through the 1st
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  inning last night, Trent, he looked like Sai Young.
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  Well, OK, maybe a little over the top, but he.
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  He can do that the first time through the order, correct?
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  He doesn't do that the second time through.
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  No, I mean it was it was there were 4-2 run home runs that he
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  gave up in the game yesterday. Did he give up all four of them?
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  He get through three of them for sure.
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  Emmanaga is going to be back. Thursday Back Thursday.
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  Yeah. And don't look now.
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  Both the Brewers and the Cardinals are 3 1/2 games back.
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  Of those, Cubs would seem to be on their merry way.
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  Yeah, didn't. Doesn't that seem incredible the
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  way that this Cubs team has played until the last half week?
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  That and they still got a great record, but it sure seems like
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  he where, what are they doing? Milwaukee, though, has played
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  really what Yelich is out of one of those streaks.
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  And that kid that called up with the alphabet name Meskowitz or
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  whatever, so him against the twins.
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  Yeah. That was Friday night, dude.
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  Friday night. An.
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  Absolute because he had a no hitter through how many he was
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  perfect. I think through 6.
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  Jeez. Yeah, Speaking of going the
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  wrong way, that's the Twins, but and then you got the Cardinals.
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  I I still. I don't know how they're doing
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  it. That's.
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  Exactly what I was going to say. How is this team doing this?
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  I don't know. There are a bunch of C + B minus
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  type players. They.
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  Didn't they don't hit home runs yesterday?
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  Hit 4. And that stinks a little bit.
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  You go through the lineup, Burleson, Donovan, both those
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  young guys are hitting well, but just overall it is.
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  Scott can fly, Mason wins. Got a great arm at at the
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  shortstop. I don't get it.
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  I'm right there with you. But I get the.
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  Brewers. It can't be sustainable, right?
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  If you're taking a choice between the two that are going
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  to chase them, I think it is the Brewers.
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  Yet with all that, you look at all the offensive numbers for
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  the Cardinals, their 7th and baseball runs scored.
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  How? Without hitting home.
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  Runs without hitting home runs, Yeah, Speaking of home runs,
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  they are 20th and baseball and home runs.
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  But by the way, small ball and they got the best fans in
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  baseball self. Claims, I guess what's left of
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  them. I mean, they showed the ballpark
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  a couple of times last night, Trent, it's alarming.
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  It's a Monday night, but still, school's out.
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  Sure. And it's Cubs, the Cubs.
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  And it's good thing that the Cubs are in town because they
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  brought a good a good number of fans to that.
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  Game a vocal, though they didn't have a whole lot to cheer about.
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  No, they did not yesterday. Look, the Cardinals got a chance
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  here. If they can take 3 out of four,
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  I mean, who knows where we're going?
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  The Brewers and and they the Cardinals go right back to
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  Wrigley Field next week. So these two teams hadn't waited
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  until this week till they saw each other for the first time.
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  But they're going to see a lot of each other in the next two
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  weeks. What do you think of Libitor?
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  I thought it was great yesterday.
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  He was so bullpen last year, but it was kind of that
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  developmental year, if you will. This was always the plan to
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  bring him back as a starter. When I look at him and I wonder,
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  is there still yet another level?
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  Because what, 25? Maybe 20?
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  He's not very yeah. 25 If there's He's never going to be
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  an ace, probably not even a #2 but can he be a great #3 on a
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  playoff team? I think that's right.
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  I think that's a level that he can hit.
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  The guy that showed up yesterday to pitch is that guy.
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  Then yes, he was really good because the Cubs can hit the
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  baseball. And slowed those bats down.
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  Or the weekend. I'm sure you're watching the
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  Cubs a lot. I did.
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  Hot weather ball flying out. Boy oh boy, you're not kidding.
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  That's Wrigley. What I think of Wrigley Field in
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  the summertime, like the Friday game, those are just the ones
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  that popped to mind. It had that feeling, winds
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  blowing out, making a Wrigley make, having Harry Carey there
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  and Wrigley making the call. That's what I think of the Cubs
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  is kind of weekends like. That it was the first when I
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  immigrated here in 89, it was the first sports venue that I
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  hadn't been to that I got to. I'll never forget the feeling.
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  Just Wrigley Field. Oh my God, I can't believe that
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  I'm here. And then the first time I was
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  able to sit in the bleachers, I was blown away.
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  It was like a nightclub, honestly.
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  The cops sucked, right? But the bleachers were full and,
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  and everybody's like, I, I was 30, yes.
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  So it was different back then and I was single.
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  So that's kind of, you know, I, I was blown away.
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  Old style, slugging them down. Oh my God, and, and guys going
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  to meet women and women going to meet guys.
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  It was like I was, I couldn't believe that this was going on
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  in a ball game. Anyways, I'm glad there was.
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  And it's just, there's just something about that place, just
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  something about Wrigley Field. We'll see where it goes.
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  Well, and this can be a hell of a fight and, and as we
• 17:23
  mentioned, Cincinnati's playing better, too.
• 17:25
  They are a nice win over the Yankees yesterday.
• 17:28
  So they creep back over 500, so where it felt like for the last
• 17:34
  two months. Yeah, that the Cubs were home
• 17:35
  free. They were going to coast cruise
• 17:37
  control tweak, figure out the rotation, get another arm at
• 17:41
  least for a starting rotation, maybe a bullpen arm and away we
• 17:44
  go. Now you're going to be in a
• 17:46
  fight because the likelihood that all three of these teams
• 17:49
  are all going to drift back, one of them's going to becoming a
• 17:52
  minimum right? And if you're in that kind of
• 17:55
  dogs the. Brewers, but man, we'll.
• 17:57
  See, and I still like the talent of Cincinnati.
• 17:59
  I do too. I do too, and I like the manager
• 18:02
  of Cincinnati real quick. So I was working on our script
• 18:04
  for our media com TV show that we're going to do tomorrow.
• 18:07
  Yeah, and I was just checking out some college stuff.
• 18:10
  Did you know the Iowa win total has dropped?
• 18:13
  We're DraftKings. It's 6 1/2 now.
• 18:15
  Heavily juiced to the over, but 6 1/2 a draftking because when
• 18:20
  it came out it was 7 1/2. I was with 7 1/2.
• 18:22
  I was state was 7 1/2. They mirrored each other.
• 18:25
  But I was blown away this morning when I when I looked at
• 18:28
  it that it's down to 6 1/2. So what would be the outside of
• 18:33
  obviously downside of money? I mean, that's a reason that
• 18:36
  DraftKings would. Do that.
• 18:37
  But are they alone, I wonder? I should have looked.
• 18:41
  As you're handicapping it though, and you're not
• 18:43
  handicapping it in the state of Iowa, you're handicapping on a
• 18:46
  national level. You start quarterback
• 18:50
  nationally, people don't know. Fairpoint, I think they're going
• 18:53
  to know before long. And I think so too.
• 18:56
  But if you're somebody nationally, all right, guy
• 18:59
  making the move up from FCS, probably look at who cares, you
• 19:03
  know, then you have the memories of the last half decade of
• 19:06
  offensive football. Ineptitude.
• 19:08
  Even if you look and say, well, they got a new quarterback, but
• 19:10
  boy, that offense, according to last year, their passing game
• 19:12
  still stunk. I'm sure it's pretty easy.
• 19:15
  And then you couple it with the schedule and a schedule where
• 19:19
  you go to three of your rivals, you go to Ames, you go to
• 19:22
  Madison, you have to go to Lincoln.
• 19:24
  That's tough. You have California trip,
• 19:27
  California trip regardless of Big 10 opponent, but certainly
• 19:30
  Iowa takes it to another level, usually disastrous.
• 19:34
  You have two preseason top seven teams in Penn State and Oregon
• 19:39
  going to Kin. Last year's number one team
• 19:41
  going into the playoff? Oregon.
• 19:43
  You have an Indiana team that won 11 games a year ago on the
• 19:46
  schedule. That has a that has a
• 19:48
  quarterback who's one of the favorites to win a Heisman in
• 19:51
  Mendoza, the transfer from Cal who we both saw last year and
• 19:54
  thought well. He's an upgrade over what the
• 19:56
  hell last year with work right? And work was great it.
• 19:58
  Was really. Mendoza's better.
• 20:00
  I think he is. I agree.
• 20:01
  And suddenly we go outside of the borders of the Missouri and
• 20:05
  Mississippi rivers. You.
• 20:05
  See what Schiano's doing at Rutgers.
• 20:08
  And you look at this thing and say, can they get to 7?
• 20:12
  Like I kind of felt the same way.
• 20:14
  I can understand when you look at it in that fashion and you
• 20:19
  say yeah, under certainly when it was 7 and a.
• 20:22
  Half I was leaning under all day long there, I thought 7:00 and
• 20:25
  5:00. And when we talked about this
• 20:27
  team back in January when the season concluded, before they
• 20:30
  had Mark Garnowski before, I said I was almost definitely
• 20:34
  taking the under regardless of where it came.
• 20:36
  And I said if it was 6 1/2 do. You remember what it was that
• 20:39
  with your back of your mind it was going to be.
• 20:40
  And I thought at the time, 5 1/2 might be a fair number.
• 20:44
  Now, historically, you say, well, that's silly too, because
• 20:47
  Kirk Ference has taken teams. Yeah. 8910 games every year,
• 20:50
  that's what it. Is but off what they lost
• 20:53
  defensively, passing game, you didn't know what was going to
• 20:57
  look like. You lose the one offensive piece
• 20:59
  they had last year and Caleb Johnson, you got to find a left
• 21:01
  tackle. If they still do.
• 21:03
  And I think there's a lot of there's a lot of ammunition to
• 21:06
  go after this Iowa football team and say it's not going to happen
• 21:09
  this year. Now we're going to talk
• 21:12
  ourselves into it by August. That's what we do also and we're
• 21:16
  going to go building it back up. But I can definitely understand
• 21:19
  the angst about this team and the concern when you look at
• 21:22
  them overall. Nobody knows these linebackers.
• 21:24
  No, we haven't seen them. Secondary was not good last
• 21:27
  year. And you lose your best
• 21:29
  quarterback in 20 years. CJ Hall took the jump in spring.
• 21:33
  Right. Right.
• 21:34
  Or TJ Hall. A lot of guys are taking.
• 21:35
  The jump, is TJ Hall going to be that?
• 21:37
  We didn't see the consistency certainly, and I thought he
• 21:40
  improved himself last year, but not at that level.
• 21:43
  The question marks are there. And on top of it, when we go
• 21:47
  back to Mark Gordowski, he had shoulder surgery and we've heard
• 21:49
  all the right things. That's all great.
• 21:52
  But you don't have to go back very far till we heard about
• 21:55
  injured quarterbacks. Yeah, that scar tissue is still
• 21:59
  pretty raw for Hawkeye fans in the quarterback position.
• 22:02
  And one hit on that bad shoulder, do we know he lands on
• 22:05
  it wrong? Come on down, Hank Brown.
• 22:10
  Well, I'm anxious to see him play, but not this year, right.
• 22:14
  I mean, I I think they've got something there.
• 22:16
  But yeah, I don't know if they have something their use this
• 22:19
  year. No, it's got to be Gronowski.
• 22:20
  Got to be Gronowski again. Doc coming up here in about an
• 22:23
  hour from now. Scott Document really good piece
• 22:25
  today that was published at the Athletic.
• 22:28
  He had a sit down a one-on-one with Kirk Ference.
• 22:31
  It published today at the Athletic.
• 22:32
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• 22:37
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  o.com. When we come back, I want to
• 23:05
  share some personal news if you feel allowed.
• 23:07
  Absolutely. When we come back, we'll do
• 23:09
  that. Miller and Condon underway on a
• 23:11
  Tuesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 23:13
  Network. I just passed 1230.
• 23:20
  Welcome back Miller and Condon. Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 23:23
  We take you until 2:00 coming up in the second hour of the
• 23:27
  program. Frank Schwab covers the NFL for
• 23:29
  yahoosports.com, also branches out into the gambling aspect of
• 23:34
  the site, sports wagering. And then we'll talk to Scott
• 23:37
  Dockerman who published a piece today at The Athletic.
• 23:39
  He had a one-on-one sit down interview with Kirk Ference.
• 23:42
  It's a really good read and we'll talk to Doc about that and
• 23:45
  about the piece coming up here in no 50 minutes or thereabouts.
• 23:49
  So just real quick, and I don't want to linger on it, I just
• 23:54
  kind of want to explain what I'm about to do.
• 23:56
  You know, over the next year, 29 years ago today, sports radio in
• 24:02
  Des Moines made its debut and never, there was never full time
• 24:06
  sports radio before 29 years ago today.
• 24:09
  Next year obviously will be year #30 of that going of, of that
• 24:13
  format coming to Central Iowa on a full time basis.
• 24:17
  We did a local show in the mornings and then turned it
• 24:20
  over. We had Rome, we had the fabulous
• 24:22
  Sports Babe. I don't recall what else we had,
• 24:24
  but it was full time sports talk radio and it never been done
• 24:27
  before. And we were told it would never
• 24:29
  going to work because Des Moines not big enough and there's just
• 24:32
  no passion here for sports. And it was a guy by the name of
• 24:36
  Phil Hoover. I cut the article out.
• 24:37
  I'm sure I still have it. I know I do somewhere because
• 24:42
  screw you, we're going to make this work.
• 24:44
  And so anyways, next one year from today is going to be my
• 24:48
  last day. I'm going to retire in one year
• 24:51
  for from today full time. I don't know what that means as
• 24:55
  far as I, I, I'd always hope to be able to do a Sunday show, you
• 25:00
  know, and I, and I think I'm going to be allowed to do that.
• 25:02
  Previous management teams here had had, you know, signed off on
• 25:07
  it, wanted me to do it and I want to do it and I still do.
• 25:10
  But I just, you know, Tran, it was, it was a staff meeting that
• 25:14
  really put it over the top that Sean called, well, just stabbed
• 25:17
  me and our new program director and and I couldn't be a prouder
• 25:20
  of Shawn Roberts and be more in his corner than I am.
• 25:24
  And you'll call the meeting. I do.
• 25:26
  Right. And it was informative and we
• 25:27
  never done one before. And I thought this is really
• 25:29
  good idea just to get everybody on the same page.
• 25:32
  What's going on, the comings and goings, who's going on vacation.
• 25:36
  We're trying to do this, that and the other.
• 25:38
  And he's got a lot of stuff he's working on and and I think it's
• 25:41
  great that he is. So I looked around the room and
• 25:44
  and I looked down at Lucas and I'm 40 years older than Lucas,
• 25:48
  right? And I know I'm 20 years older
• 25:51
  than you and our program director.
• 25:53
  I'm 30 years older than Sean and the new Co host that's coming in
• 25:58
  July. I'm 30 years older than that
• 26:00
  person. So point being is I'm old,
• 26:03
  right? And it is, it is unfortunately,
• 26:07
  there comes a time for everybody that it's just your time and
• 26:12
  it's my time, as much as I hate to admit it.
• 26:15
  And it, I thought about it all weekend.
• 26:17
  I slept on it last night. I was going to call you last
• 26:19
  night and tell you and I thought, you know what, I'm
• 26:21
  going to sleep on it one more night just to make sure because
• 26:25
  I love what I do and I love what I've been able to do.
• 26:28
  And I'm so grateful to the state of Iowa, who for the most part
• 26:33
  welcome, welcomed in somebody who didn't grow up here, you
• 26:37
  know, didn't go to Iowa, Iowa State or Dowling or Valley or
• 26:39
  Ankeny or SE Poker, blah, blah, blah, who was a true foreigner
• 26:44
  to be to the area. And I think it's wonderful that
• 26:48
  that I've been accepted like that.
• 26:49
  And it's just, it's just time, man.
• 26:53
  And I've always been somebody who likes numbers, like likes
• 26:58
  getting on and getting off points.
• 26:59
  And what a great way to end, you know, started 30 years ago to
• 27:04
  the day and will end 30 years after that.
• 27:07
  And I did day one show, one minute 1 of this format.
• 27:13
  And there's only one other person can that can say that,
• 27:17
  but here I am. So that's what I'm going to do.
• 27:19
  And, and the reason here's the big reason I'm saying it today
• 27:22
  is I don't want to talk myself out of it, OK?
• 27:24
  Because I know that when June comes around, what's next month?
• 27:29
  July. And what does that mean?
• 27:31
  Football's. Getting uh huh and I'm going to
• 27:34
  talk myself into staying through football.
• 27:36
  Yes, I'll just leave after the college season.
• 27:38
  Well, the Super Bowl's in February and that's not fair to
• 27:41
  you because you and and your new Co host, whoever that will be A,
• 27:47
  you need the time to ramp up and B, that's when shows take off,
• 27:51
  right? I, I refer to it as autopilot.
• 27:55
  You know, we hit autopilot in July and basically until the
• 27:59
  last I where I was state or Drake team standing in March
• 28:03
  Madness or you and I, that's easy.
• 28:06
  And this is when this is when we have the most fun.
• 28:08
  But for me, it's particularly football.
• 28:10
  And I've said it over the, you know, many times what college
• 28:14
  football means to me and what separates, you know, what makes
• 28:18
  this such a wonderful country when it comes to sports, because
• 28:20
  really that's all I care about. It's the college, it's the, it's
• 28:25
  the pomp, it's the pageantry, it's the rooting for your
• 28:28
  school. And I just love it because I
• 28:30
  never experienced it. I mean, in, in college athletics
• 28:33
  in in Canada, it's family and friends, you know, unless
• 28:37
  they're talking and college hockey is never a thing.
• 28:40
  But I so I want to do everything one more time.
• 28:43
  I want to talk to Bama Bob on Mondays and Fridays because it's
• 28:47
  my favorite segment. And then once that's over, I
• 28:49
  want to get into the NFL and I want to do the big 10 and the
• 28:53
  Big 12 and the valley and keep an eye on them.
• 28:56
  And I want to do that until the end of whoever, end of March,
• 29:00
  hopefully somebody in April and then do the Masters with Matt
• 29:03
  Rudy and the Derby and all of those things that go into making
• 29:06
  our year what we do. I want to do it all one more
• 29:10
  time, you know, hopefully, you know, a perfect world.
• 29:13
  And I don't get that, you know, we'll be talking about a Stanley
• 29:16
  Cup that goes to my squad. But that, that, that'd be the,
• 29:19
  that would be the cherry eye shot, right?
• 29:21
  The absolute. But I want to do everything one
• 29:23
  more time. And I know if I don't go public
• 29:26
  and put it out there and then once I do, I won't take it back
• 29:29
  because I won't embarrass myself.
• 29:31
  This isn't an ego thing. What's this guy doing?
• 29:35
  Who's you think he is? I mean, he's given the year's
• 29:37
  notice. No, I'm just telling you how I
• 29:39
  feel and why and why I'm doing it.
• 29:41
  Because I know I would want to stay through football and that
• 29:43
  would be unfair to you. Well, and on top of it when you
• 29:46
  first called me this morning and you said that and was before you
• 29:48
  mentioned you're going to mention it on air.
• 29:51
  Well, that's this isn't going to last because football will be
• 29:53
  right around the corner and it's going to be here and because I
• 29:57
  don't want you to leave. But I'm not going to force you
• 29:59
  by any weeds or anything like that because I've been doing
• 30:02
  this also for a long time, not as long as you, but I am in now
• 30:05
  your number 21 of doing this format and I absolutely love it.
• 30:10
  I've worked with a lot of people, but there is nobody I
• 30:14
  enjoy doing sports talk radio more than with you.
• 30:17
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 30:18
  Ditto. Because we like to talk about
• 30:21
  sports, we like to talk about gambling, sports wagering.
• 30:25
  We see things very similar and we have the yin and Yang.
• 30:28
  And I think there's pieces of it that make our show fun to do
• 30:32
  every single day. And I will miss that.
• 30:35
  I will miss you. I will miss you goofiness.
• 30:38
  I will miss your stories. But more than anything, for you
• 30:43
  to be the trailblazer that you were and helping make this
• 30:46
  format work in this state. And like you said, people said
• 30:50
  it wouldn't work. It gave me a life, it gave me an
• 30:53
  opportunity. And I can't say thank you.
• 30:56
  And I know it goes for all the people throughout the years that
• 30:58
  have heard you. You are going to be sorely
• 31:00
  missed. Well, thank you.
• 31:03
  What I do want is, is hopefully I do get to work on Sundays.
• 31:10
  I think that'll be cool. I remember when I was a little
• 31:14
  boy and I was a boy, there was, there was the radio on the, on
• 31:18
  the fridge, you know, back in the 60s where you folks had the
• 31:21
  radios, but there was a, there was a show that would come on on
• 31:27
  on Sunday mornings. It was unlike anything else,
• 31:29
  right? And it was old music from the
• 31:31
  20s and the 30s. And it was music just for you.
• 31:34
  And I remember by asking my mom, you know, why does they do this?
• 31:37
  It's for the shut in son. She would say.
• 31:39
  And I remember this, you know, when you remember stuff when you
• 31:41
  were a little kid and I've had over the years people that come
• 31:44
  up to me and tell me that they've been listening to me
• 31:46
  since, you know, since the beginning.
• 31:48
  So I want to stick around for that.
• 31:50
  And I want to do Sundays and then I'm going to when you go on
• 31:54
  vacation. I want I don't want you to worry
• 31:58
  about I don't have anybody that can fill in for me.
• 32:00
  I'm going to be that guy. If your Co host is is good with
• 32:03
  that because one of the things I've never told you this before
• 32:06
  about you that sticks with me is when you told me about
• 32:10
  Christmas. And Christmas Eve.
• 32:12
  Oh, yes, yeah. And you grew up in a, you know,
• 32:15
  a family that you wanted to be, you wanted your kids to be in
• 32:18
  their own bed. Every every Christmas Eve.
• 32:20
  Every Christmas Eve and then that resonated with me.
• 32:22
  So when you when you go away, I'm going to, you know, take
• 32:26
  your place for those weeks or I know Sean in in in part of that
• 32:29
  meeting that came up a couple of weeks ago said he's going to
• 32:32
  audition, you know, for for fill in hosts.
• 32:36
  Maybe you'll let me audition, I think.
• 32:39
  You got a long reel if you need it.
• 32:40
  So I anyways, a year from today, I'm going to be, I'm going to
• 32:44
  put push back from full time sports talk duty.
• 32:47
  And so that's what I have to share with you and thank you
• 32:55
  for, for listening for all these years and letting me do this for
• 32:57
  as long as we did and got a year and want to have as much fun as
• 33:02
  we can and want to do everything one more time because I just
• 33:05
  love it and I'm going to miss the hell out of it.
• 33:07
  We're going to miss you. I'm going to miss the hell out
• 33:09
  of it. Baseball Benny goes a way back.
• 33:14
  I Benny. Haven't been as long as a long
• 33:17
  as round as you, but Kenny, I was probably 2 years into the
• 33:22
  incarnation of the first one when I first got an opportunity
• 33:25
  to produce at the old Choc. And I appreciate your friendship
• 33:30
  and your wonderful wife Cindy and you.
• 33:33
  But you've been a great friend and I hate to see you go, but I
• 33:36
  know you've got bigger and better things in your future.
• 33:39
  And I, I know you're going to miss it and it'll be great when
• 33:42
  you can TuneIn and Co host when I have friends gone that want to
• 33:47
  wish you nothing but the best. And I'm going to enjoy one last
• 33:50
  year just like I'm enjoying the last three years of Dan Patrick
• 33:53
  before he hangs it up. So going to enjoy my next three
• 33:57
  years of radio with Dan Patrick retiring in about 3 years.
• 34:01
  And you've given us a one year notice.
• 34:03
  But I love the fact that you're going out on your own term.
• 34:06
  Yeah, that's cool too. Wish you wish you and your
• 34:10
  family. That's wonderful.
• 34:11
  Nothing but the best. Thanks, Benny.
• 34:13
  You got a friend, you know you got a friend in your corner and
• 34:16
  me and great news. Winnipeg Zone coming home.
• 34:20
  Yeah, bring the cup with. He's going to bring the cup with
• 34:23
  him if he's got anything. Left, I hope.
• 34:25
  He's going to, he's going to get that goalie to learn how to
• 34:28
  become a playoff goalie, Yeah. Thanks, Benny.
• 34:31
  Appreciate it. Yeah, Jonathan Taves got signed
• 34:32
  back with The Jets. Do hope he's got something left.
• 34:35
  I saw that little headline. I said, oh, there's a good.
• 34:37
  One. Yeah, I know that is.
• 34:38
  Maybe we can do one of our final shows from up in Winnipeg.
• 34:40
  I can't cross the border. I'm a little worried.
• 34:44
  You'd be you'd be spending retirement Winnipeg.
• 34:46
  Yeah, No, no, please, no. The summers, summers are great,
• 34:49
  but that's fortunately that's about two months.
• 34:52
  Anyways, we'll take your time out, come back, finish up our
• 34:54
  number one. Thank you for allowing me that
• 34:55
  10 minutes For those of you in the state that are, you know,
• 34:58
  really new to me and to the state etcetera, to the sports
• 35:02
  talk radio coming from the capital city, thank you for
• 35:05
  that. Miller and Condon back on the
• 35:07
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. I'm Miller Condon, welcome back.
• 35:11
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller with
• 35:14
  you until 2. Frank Schwab kicks off our
• 35:18
  number 2 Yahoo Sports talk or Yahoo Sports radio and then
• 35:21
  sports radio, Yahoo Sports and then Scott Dockerman will join
• 35:25
  us from the Athletic. Trump want to ask you what's
• 35:28
  going on with the Indiana fever. They've kind of fallen on some
• 35:31
  hard times. Caitlin Clark couldn't throw it
• 35:33
  in the ocean standing on the side end of a pier.
• 35:35
  She won up 17 in her last 17 three-point attempts.
• 35:39
  Something's going on there. Coach is running in and out of
• 35:43
  availability. Dewana Bonner, the free agent
• 35:46
  signing. She did all the social media
• 35:48
  leaving leading up to the season.
• 35:50
  Now she's on and to be determined to leave from the
• 35:53
  team. Something's Askew.
• 35:57
  Feels like there, yeah, something bubbling under the
• 35:59
  surface that isn't just basketball related.
• 36:02
  I know that I can't. Why can't I think of her?
• 36:07
  Name Stephanie White. Yeah, Stephanie White's wife, at
• 36:10
  least the Salters. Apparently her mother is dying,
• 36:12
  yes, so that could be something. To do at least the Salter wasn't
• 36:14
  there games one and two, at least the first game of the
• 36:17
  finals. And she was, of course.
• 36:18
  Back right? But yeah, so you have that going
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  on. And in a way, you go back to
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  that game, the physical game against Connecticut, and Sophie
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  Cunningham comes find it. Sophie Cunningham suddenly
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  became she's already star. Yeah.
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  But you saw her social media following.
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  It just, yeah, accelerates to another level, right?
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  You couldn't buy her jersey. The next day they were sold out.
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  Fanatics sold out. She went up to 1,000,000
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  subscribers on TikTok. And are you on TikTok?
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  No, I I downloaded it like 3-4 years ago.
• 36:53
  Twitter's addicting, as we've talked about.
• 36:57
  TikTok I got it bad. Do not download.
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  It. No, I'm not.
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  It is. 10 times worse than Twitter.
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  I don't Facebook, I don't Instagram, I don't TikTok.
• 37:06
  I tweet. Well, I don't tweet.
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  I. The TikTok, I thought I was
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  sitting there for 10 minutes. I had killed 45 minutes.
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  No way. The first time I'd done.
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  I'm like, I can't, I'm like, I, I cannot have this in my life.
• 37:15
  It's that bad. And that's TikTok.
• 37:17
  But she's very good on it. But then we hear about the
• 37:20
  jealousy, and does that jealousy now go to another level?
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  Caitlin's one thing. She's a once in a generation
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  talent. She's coming to your team after
• 37:29
  you're not being a playoff team and being a terrible team the
• 37:31
  couple years previous. But now you add this new one,
• 37:34
  this new addition, jealousy in the locker room.
• 37:38
  Could it be something like that? Bonner is a celebrated as a
• 37:42
  player and a champion. 3rd in league scoring in history.
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  Yet taking a different role late in her career.
• 37:49
  There's a lot that you can and this is all speculation, but you
• 37:53
  can understand it. We've seen that teams with
• 37:57
  different type of personalities, they don't mesh and they went
• 38:00
  out. It's not a talent problem, it's
• 38:02
  teams. It's not that they're not.
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  Talented. They're significantly more
• 38:04
  talented. They were last year.
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  But they don't look better. They don't for long, long
• 38:08
  stretches. I mean, Caitlin Clark has missed
• 38:11
  16 out of 17 threes. Come on.
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  It's unthinkable, right? Yeah, a bad game.
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  Sure, right, but not stacking them together right the way this
• 38:19
  I mean and you didn't you bet the the other day the.
• 38:22
  I did. That's what I thought.
• 38:23
  You took the points and they beat them out, right?
• 38:25
  They did and then Caitlin's turn, but she always turns the
• 38:28
  ball over. But it's just there's something
• 38:30
  wrong with this squad. Christine Brennan's book is
• 38:32
  coming out that's going to get stir up the putt even more.
• 38:35
  So I think 'cause she is pro Caitlin Clark.
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  And you can't say that about the league.
• 38:39
  All the new commercials, the shoe that's going to drop.
• 38:42
  It's it's going to set records and there's going to be more
• 38:45
  pushback from the players that went before that didn't have
• 38:48
  those perks. Well, you weren't as good.
• 38:49
  Nobody cared, right? We do now.
• 38:52
  I go back to one thing we'll see tonight.
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  Where are they in Seattle? Late night tonight, Yeah, in
• 38:58
  Seattle is. And it just, for whatever
• 39:01
  reason, triggered. Because remember when this
• 39:04
  year's Iowa women's basketball team was struggling, Lost five
• 39:07
  in a row? Oh, they went out there.
• 39:08
  They were out on the West Coast. They finished in Seattle, won
• 39:12
  that game decisively against a decent Washington team and a
• 39:15
  catapult him maybe this time together, because I don't think
• 39:18
  they came back to Indiana before.
• 39:19
  They didn't go from Oakland up to Seattle.
• 39:23
  That's probably what they did. If maybe this could be that.
• 39:26
  Got players only meeting, getting together, turn off the
• 39:31
  lights and we're just going to talk whatever it is, whatever
• 39:33
  kind of night. A lot of times, sometimes the
• 39:35
  coach helps cultivate that and Steph White hasn't been there.
• 39:38
  So we'll see about that front. But I do wonder if we see it
• 39:42
  click tonight. You heard it here first.
• 39:44
  That's what it was. No, you.
• 39:46
  It's funny you mentioned that. I didn't even think about that
• 39:48
  angle. We'll see.
• 39:49
  We've worked before with Caitlin's former team, but
• 39:52
  there's something off about this squad.
• 39:54
  Were they favored against Vegas? Do you remember?
• 39:56
  2 was the number I can't remember.
• 39:58
  The getting, yeah. So it was, it was pretty tight.
• 40:00
  It was all right. Anyways, our 2 is coming up
• 40:03
  next. We're going to talk with Frank
• 40:05
  Schwab. He has started his countdown
• 40:08
  starts at 32, works his way to #1 now that Peter King has
• 40:11
  retired, it's one of the boxes you check as you inch your way
• 40:15
  to the NFL season. Miller and Condon Scott
• 40:17
  documents coming up as well. It is the Iowa Sports Radio
• 40:21
  Network.