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The Mystery of the Abandoned Showers · INSPIRE STORY

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to creep Cast. I am your co host,
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Meet Kenyon.
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Speaker 2: Joined with me is Windagerosen the other co host.
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Speaker 1: Guide feels so weird. We've never done that kind of intronet.
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Speaker 2: I'll go with it. You want to do an old
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like fifties broadcaster? The start with how Yeah? I was
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about saying can you do the mid Atlantic accent?
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little five star rating. It helps all the world. But
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today we are going over the showers, which is as
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I'm looking at you. It is the scariest story of
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twenty twelve is what it says at the very pow
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that's right where this is apparently a R slash No
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Sleep classic. Dare I say one of the one of
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the great the mount on the Mount rushmore of R
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slash No Sleep.
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Speaker 2: According to the Internet, it certainly is. It's up there
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with things like Rosco, which you know we're all still
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very scared of. I remember this being talked about in
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the same capacity things like no End House were talked
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about or nineteen ninety nine, And unlike those stories that
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I've read and remember all the details of, I actually
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don't remember the showers. I don't think I've ever read it.
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So I'm excited to get to experience it for the
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first time because most of the time, like, don't get
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me wrong, it's fun to know exactly what's going to
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happen and hold a teddy Bear up to the camera.
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It's a terrorized hunter. That's great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but by the way, I, how dare you? By
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the way?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, aud it's never got to see your reaction.
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Speaker 1: No, nobody got to see that. And I want to say,
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that's bullshit. I had people flooding, flooding me on Twitter
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after the fact and read it and everything, and I
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want to say that I've caught Like I saw the edit.
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I saw like when I was rewatching the cut, and
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I was like, this son of a bitch, I was
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like the entire time, played me like a fool the
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entire time. So I want to say, yes, I saw it.
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It's unbelievable. My mouth was a gape during the edit.
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I when I first saw the first cut of it.
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My mouth was wide open. I was like, he trolled
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me the entire time. Bro.
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Speaker 2: When you were like, I think there's a picture of
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you with a bear.
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Speaker 1: And it was holding it, I was all I could
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do was grip my teeth and clench my fists and rage.
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I was just like you, you bastard, dude, you'll, you'll,
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you make me look like a fool.
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Speaker 2: The joy I felt in that moment has to be
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comparable to holding your first born, like wow, the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Getting one over on me that much was. That was
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that pivotal.
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Speaker 2: I understand how satisfying of a burn it is. When
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you're like, I think you have its head in there.
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Speaker 1: I uh, I'm good. As soon as it's so good,
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as soon as you have your first child, I'm gonna
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go up to it. I'm gonna say we're on the
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same level, you and I. I'm gonna say to him,
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I'm gonna shake his little hand and be like we
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you and I are one and the same. Also, I
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want to say so that the title of the story
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today is The Showers. From what we see here, it's
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by Clover one zero one seven six. We'll put the
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link in the description of course, but also the way
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my hair is parted is because UH and I took
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a shower just before this, just because I knew we
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were taking the showers. It definitely wasn't because I smoke
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like shit and my hair was super greasy. So now
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this is why my hair looks like this. So I
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don't want people dogging on me. All right, I look
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like Roseanne bar whenever my hair is wet, So I'm
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sorry for that. It's very, it's it's unfortunate, but I'm
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I'm very I'm excited as always. I have never read this.
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I've just seen people the comment suggest this, so once
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again I am excited. But we have a very love
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hate relationship with UH with suggestions, viewer suggestions.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. I've been thrilled
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by everything we've covered.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I will say it's always been entertaining. There's always
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been some kind of peak where I'm like, what the
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hell is this? What are we doing? Whether it be
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good or bad.
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Speaker 2: Look, every single thing we've covered has been an utter
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joy and benefit to my life, for better or worse.
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That doesn't mean that they've all been good, but I've
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loved every single one of them. But yeah, I'm very
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excited to talk about the showers. I will mention to
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the audience. I'm technically high right now and shouldn't be
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operating a vehicle, not because I do illicit drugs, but
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because I do legal drugs. I had my wisdom teeth
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removed a few days ago. Oh and I am hyped
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up on pain medication right now, so I feel great.
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Speaker 1: Fentanyl flop right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the doctor prescribed. Fittnel.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, so this is a very popular drub
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right now. There you go.
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Speaker 2: The kids love this. So if I say anything weird
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or do anything weird, don't hold it against me unless
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it's funny.
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Speaker 1: I just want to you absolutely have told it against him.
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I would say, also, you prefacing that you can't be
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driving large vehicles. It's like, are you recording and driving
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at the same time. For a second, I thought, is
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he in his car just barreling down the freeway.
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Speaker 2: He's like, what I got? If you watch this edit
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back and I'm like, oh my.
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Speaker 1: God, I would have to make some kind of disclaimer,
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being like, I don't know what is happening, but this
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is not this is not okay. We can't. We can't
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go on like this well without further ado is I say,
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let's just let's let's hop in absolutely.
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Speaker 2: I do want to mention that the author, so yes,
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his user name on red it is clover WHATNOTU the
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author's legal name, because since this has been printed as
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a novella, it's he's worked on other things. His name
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is Dylan Sindeler Sindler. However that name is pronounced, it's
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sin and then Deller Sindler whatever. Dylan wrote the story originally,
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it's gone on to write other stuff, so he gets
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full credit for everything we're talking about. And we're gonna
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link his original post.
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Speaker 1: Oh cool. Yeah, And like you said, there is it
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has been novelized, so you can't pick up the paperback.
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Speaker 2: It looks like as with a lot of these, like
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out of pin Pal, pin Pal was like that. I
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think if I know Baraska and Left Right Game were
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made into the audio shows, I think maybe Burroska also
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had a print version if I recall, right, maybe I'm wrong,
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but yeah, a lot of this stuff kind of becomes
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popular enough that it's put into other like media formats.
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Speaker 1: I will say, I can't remember on the Reddit page
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that we had, but someone did a different cover for
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pin Pal and it looked amazing. It was really really good.
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I think they submitted it to a graphic design contest
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and one from what I saw, and it was amazing.
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So if we can, we well, we should put it
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up here because it was really really cool to see.
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I'm also trying to look right now for The Showers
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the Action physical book, and it looks it looks like
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it's like out of print. It's like it's it's apparently
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very hard to find. So if anybody has it, you
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might be sitting on gold.
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Speaker 2: It could be a collector's edition type thing.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, dude, I'm gonna have to be digging.
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Speaker 2: You could convince Hunter to buy it off of you
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for a lot of money, because if there's one thing
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Hunter loves, it's stealing money from our fans. As he's discussed, I.
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Speaker 1: I love it, give me our money. I want it.
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Speaker 2: All right, we should get to the story before you're canceled.
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Speaker 1: Let's do it. That's good. Yeah, please hurry run run
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all right?
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Speaker 2: The Showers Part one. Every area in all parts of
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the world has those area specific urban legends that just
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refuse to die. Whether the stories are about a haunted
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asylum on the outskirts of the city, a creature that
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lives in the nearby woods, or a ghost that haunts
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a lonely stretch of road outside of town, there's always
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a common thread within the tails. No one has ever
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been to these places, seen the creatures, or witnessed any
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haunting with their own eyes.
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Speaker 1: That's true. You think that's true. Do you think that's true.
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I think it's true.
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Speaker 2: With a lot of urban legends that work right because
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the person who tells them never tells the story. Oh
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I saw this. It's always the old miner who lived
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in the hills or you know, the trap. I hated this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he said. She said, kind of thing of like,
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oh my cousin's friend, you know, I mean something something
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like that.
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Speaker 2: Weird doubt from the storyteller or like removes like a
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line of questioning because it's not their story as someone else's.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just what I heard, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: It keeps urban legends alive. There are members of every
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generation who will proclaim that they know someone whose brother's
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best friend sister went to the haunted house with thirteen
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floors that used real blood and snakes and spiders, and
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is so scary that no one has ever made it
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all the way through. That sounds like how people talk
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about Mcamie manor back in the day.
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Speaker 1: No God, yeah, except those people are just actual assault victims,
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or they're just like, hey, can someone arrest this man please?
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This fucking psychopath.
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Speaker 2: Oh hi, I got punched in the face. It was fun,
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I guess God. Those same people will swear by these
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stories without ever being able to provide a shred of
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evidence or a name of someone who could provide proof
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of the claim, simply because everyone around here knows that
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it's a true story. Storytellers eventually pass the tales onto
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their children, who modified them just enough to keep up
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with the changing times, and the cycle continues. I'm as
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skeptical as anyone when it comes to these stories, seeing
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as I was like a junkie when I was younger,
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constantly searching for more terrifying stories about whatever area of
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the country I was living in at the time. I
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made up and spread stories about haunted pizza parlors in
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New York, my cousin's encounter with the Jersey Devil, or
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how my grandfather encountered a feral human like demon creature
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in the woods of Colorado. I even broke the one
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with these stories by putting myself in them. This took
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guts in hindsight, because I had to make sure that
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I always told them the same way. Surprisingly, no one
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ever called my bluff. I already I already liked the
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intro so far. I feel like, uh, I used to
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do too.
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Speaker 1: I used to do that as a kid.
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Speaker 2: I used to like try to eat up stories, like
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scary stories from people I heard, and I would like
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retell them, but sometimes I would embellish them a little bit,
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you know, maybe make them a bit more intense or stuff.
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I yeah, this is kind of homie so far.
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Speaker 1: It is one thing that I like to so far
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that the author is doing is admitting to that they
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he fabricates or they fabricate their own stories, right, And
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admittedly it's just like, yeah, I lie, and no one
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really calls my bluff, And I feel like it's setting
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up a good It's setting up an interesting ball where
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I think it's gonna be boy cried wolf kind of situation.
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Is what I'm is what I'm thinking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I'm actually Normally I just gaslight you
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by being like, yeah, sure, Hunter, that sounds cool. We'll
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see because I know where this is going. Uh, this time,
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I'm actually like, yeah, could be, but I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad finally the sadistic mastermind himself can't play one
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over on me, or you could be lying I have
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no idea.
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Speaker 2: That's right, go back into your as I'm setting here
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holding a shower head up to the camera.
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Speaker 1: You're taking a shower right now.
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Speaker 2: You rewatched the episode. I'm completely naked in just like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I see your cocking balls. We
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cannot put this in. I don't know why you had
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to stand so far away from your Logitech web camera.
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Speaker 2: I was just recorded on an iPhone exactly.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this is unsettling anyway.
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Speaker 2: I like to think that I've had some wonderful contributions
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to various urban legends around the Midwest and Northeastern states.
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I moved around a lot. There was always a surge
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of joy whenever I would wander the halls at school
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and hear one of my classmates retelling my stories to
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another one of their friends, adding little bits here and there.
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Like a massive game of telephone. I knew, of course,
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that the stories were complete fiction, but I stood my
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ground whenever someone asked me about them. I would even
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manage to act a little bit, speaking with a shaky
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voice or looking scared when I would recount a situation
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that I supposedly experienced myself. I suppose this aspect of
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my childhood has led to my current predicament, which I
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will recount in full for the Internet to take from
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it what they will. I've laid this little introduction out
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as a sort of disclaimer I aimed particularly at those
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who would call my story into question. I've been like
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the boy who cried wolf for years. I assure you,
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with every ounce of honesty and integrity that I have,
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that this time the wolf is real. That I called
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the boy who cried wolf, so I did so much.
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Speaker 1: God shooting from the hip again. I like that though,
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I like that the I like that also that string
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of sentences too. Of I have been like the boy
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he cried wolf for years, but I assure you, with
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every ounce of honesty integrity that I have, at this
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time the wolf is real. I think that's fun. Yeah,
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I like that line a lot. That's really cool.
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, the wolf is real.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's fun. This is interesting too. Is very
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well written so far, but also very it seems a
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lot and I know we've said this before, but like,
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you know, this is a twelve year old story by
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this point, right, and it seems like back like the
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older the stories are the less bullshit they throw in.
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Like it's very like they give you a nice plump
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beginning and then they like it doesn't feel like there's
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a lot of fat, Like I feel like he's really
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ramping us up to something versus before or later on
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in the series. I think people liked found out that
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people like to actually chew on these things a lot,
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so they really have a lot of preamble, you know,
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I mean like a lot of like a lot of
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not not necessarily unnecessary build up, but stuff where it's
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like you probably could have cut that in the story
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would have been fine. But I like that this is
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probably the part right here where we're gonna get thrown
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right over the roller coaster's edge into where we're going.
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Speaker 2: I also feel like back in the day, creepy pasta
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communities were very much so kind of like it's weird
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to call them like a practice grounds because you're still
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publishing it for people to see, but especially because of
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like the anonymity and kind of the nicheness of the community.
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For a while, a lot of people would put like
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these sections into their creepypasta. I feel to kind of
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see how it worked to be like, can I kind
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of ramble about this for a bit? Does this work
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for a good tagline? Let me try it?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: Because it's like, oh, absolutely, It's like kind of low stakes, right.
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I remember when I used to write like horse stories
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and stuff like that. I'd hear a cool concept and
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be like, can I do something with that? Let me
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go see. So I think a lot of these creepypastas
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kind of do that. So in a way, I kind
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of feel the ride is testing their own writing of
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building out, like you're you're inflicting the literal elements of
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the story, like a child who love to tell stories,
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but you're also introducing some kind of themes, like it
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says boy who cried wolf, or of someone that's always
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been obsessed with stories their whole lives, so now they're
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just telling a different one. It lays the groundwork for
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a lot of stuff at once, and I think I
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think it works.
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Speaker 1: No, I think it does too. I mean I think
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that you're incredibly right that especially especially I know people
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say they get mad way say especially well, I mean,
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you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna keep saying it,
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especially when uh, when you have the twelve years ago right,
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I don't know what the how infamous are Slash and
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No Sleep was, but there's no way that people would
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probably look at it with the same regards as having
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actual published work or something. Yeah, you know what I mean.
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It's the same kind of thing when people look at
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like YouTubers who make movies, right, and then they're like, well,
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until you make that actual like network or uh studio
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produced film, that's what makes it, that's what legitimizes it.
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So this is just a way for people to anomalous,
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anomalously anomalously, uh be like make these stories and there's
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really probably at the time, there's really no kind of
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weight behind it. You're just like, oh, I'm just doing
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this for fun, to see what you can do. So
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it really does feel like these early days of stuff
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there really was just like a very pure, like unfiltered
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way of testing out storytelling.
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Speaker 2: That's a good word for it.
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Speaker 1: It's pure.
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Speaker 2: It's just like here, here's me, you know all the
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I'm not worried about. Oh, I can only have two
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paragraphs to set up this. I can only have one here,
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Like they're just talking in the way they want to speak.
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And I think that's why a lot of really interesting
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stuff came out of it.
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Speaker 1: Definitely, I mean like, no gods, no master's kind of
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approach of you don't have to like you're not doing
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it for anybody but yourself, you know what I mean.
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And I think that that's really cool. I agree, right,
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go ahead.
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Speaker 2: From my introduction, it is probably apparent that I moved
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around the country quite a bit in my and high
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school years. Neither of my parents had anything to do
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with any branch of the armed forces. They simply didn't
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intend to hang around any given place for too long.
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I suppose it had some sort of effect on me,
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but I wasn't hurt by it or anything.
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Speaker 1: Of the sort.
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Speaker 2: Growing up, I was a complete ham. I made friends
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very easily, was often the class clown, and because of that,
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was often disliked by my teachers. Again, this was never
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an issue, as I was usually in another state by
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the time the next semester rolled around.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard anyone refer to themselves as a ham.
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Speaker 2: I've heard the phrase ham it up, but I've never.
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Speaker 1: Heard ham it up, but I've I have a bit
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of a clown. I'm a bit of a jokester. I'm
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a honey roasted ham me.
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Speaker 2: I'm known as the hammer around the.
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Speaker 1: I am the ham. People also call me oscar Maya.
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I'm a bit of a meatman myself. Yes, and my teachers, Oh,
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they don't like it. Yes, Oh you talk about Jacoby. Yeah,
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he's just a ham me. Yes, I'm a ham. Hello,
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don't confuse me with the Turkey, because I'm not. I'm
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a ham. I'm no bud. I'm a piggy. Okay, I'm
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this is this is going nowhere.
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Speaker 2: I just gave me flashbacks to a really funny story.
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So I haven't heard the name Jacoby in years. When
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I was the sixth grade, I remember so like I
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was like Christian kid, I was homeschooled for a few
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years in elementary schools like socially in like the or
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sorry seventh grade, I wasn't like up to date with
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like other guys my age, so I remember I was
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out a sleepover and the other guys were talking about
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girls they thought were hot, and I was like, I
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thought girls were pretty, but I never like I was
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never i'd say, like physically attracted in the way that
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like most teenage boys are until like eighth grade, right,
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So anyway, seventh grade there asked me, it's like, oh,
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who do you think's hot? So I made up I
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literally did the she goes to a different school thing.
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So I made up a girl and I gave her
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the name Jacoby because I heard that name. It just
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like just picked the name out of the eighth and
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I was like, yeah, she's she's really hot, she goes
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to different school. So for the rest of seventh grade,
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those because they immediately saw through it. They were immediately like,
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this guy's never spoken to a woman when you're talking
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about They made fun of me constantly and they knew that,
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Like my parents were like like get religious and stuff.
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So they kept me like I'm gonna tell your mom
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that you said a girl was hot or whatever. I'm like, no, please,
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Like I'm don't tell my mom. I like girls, please.
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Speaker 3: She's realized, like my girlfriend's name is Steve Wallace, which
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when you said the name Jacoby, it shot spikes through me.
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Speaker 2: Just I haven't heard that name. And for every second,
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I'm like.
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Speaker 1: Don't tell my mom.
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Speaker 2: No, wait, don't tell her.
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Speaker 1: I like what I don't tell my mom and dad?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to share that. I could have let
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that one.
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Speaker 1: That's a nice piece of you know that. That's a
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good piece of cringe. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: The author of the Showers is listening to this, like,
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can they just read the story?
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Speaker 1: No, they're probably listeners are like, I too had a girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think Jacoby is a man's name, and.
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Speaker 1: It absolutely is. I have a friend named Jacoby. It
20:39
absolutely is a man.
20:41
Speaker 2: I swear I met a girl named Jacoby, which is
20:43
why that.
20:44
Speaker 1: Jacob is the name. It makes me Jacob, of the
20:47
why it makes me Jacoby. You're like, wait, that's not
20:51
a girl.
20:52
Speaker 2: Okay, but there's like a butt like okay, you have
20:54
Alex and then you add an I s and it's
20:56
a lexus. It's a girl's name.
20:58
Speaker 1: Now, Like there's a ton of things true, Like I
21:02
don't know if Jacoby sounds very feminine.
21:05
Speaker 2: Okay, she's really she goes to another school, but she's
21:10
really hot.
21:11
Speaker 1: Goes to a different school. I remember this.
21:17
Speaker 2: I remember the other guys would like told the girls
21:21
in the class like, hey, he made up a girl
21:22
that he thoughts pretty, so like the girls would bully me.
21:25
They'd be like, oh, like, what did Jacoby look like yourself?
21:32
I literally I was so scrawny and weird in seventh
21:36
grade that I this is I am in I'm like
21:41
I said the pain medicine. Don't hold this against me.
21:45
Speaker 1: It became regular, learn yourself such a hole like I should.
21:49
Speaker 2: There was an empty trash can on the way to
21:53
the uh to the bathroom at school, and if I
21:56
passed one of the like eighth grade students going to
21:59
her from the bathroom room without saying a word, without
22:01
like making a fuss about, they would just pick me
22:03
up and put me in the trash can. And just like.
22:08
Speaker 1: I have, I have no response. I don't know how
22:11
I'm supposed to this is this is so sad. That's
22:14
not just unbelievable.
22:16
Speaker 2: We'll move on, but I promise that's not the worst fit.
22:18
That was the stuff that was funny. There was other stuff.
22:20
I got bullied a lot for being, like for having
22:23
I had a lisp, and I liked dragon ball Z
22:26
I was.
22:26
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, and I made up women. I want to
22:33
put you in a trash can right now without your talking?
22:36
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, sorry, yeah, but dunking. This is why
22:40
I prefaced the pain medicine, Okay, because I knew it
22:42
would be I knew I would overshare.
22:44
Speaker 1: Okay, I love I love it, and I love Goku
22:48
so much. Please, Okay, that wasn't my lisp, my lips.
22:52
Well have you see have you seen a seven foot
22:55
tall woman named Jacobi walking around? I'm missing her?
22:59
Speaker 2: I do like I'm okay, so maybe I did tall.
23:04
Maybe that's how they talk through it.
23:06
Speaker 1: I don't.
23:09
Speaker 2: We get back to the standard.
23:11
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna like, can we get back to
23:12
the story. You're hijacking this and you're you're like doll
23:16
your whole sad life right here, I'm trying to remember
23:18
where the hell were at ats.
23:24
Speaker 2: My friendships were often fleeting. Okay, here's the one who
23:29
said to Kobe, this is your fault. If you've used
23:31
any other name, none of this would have happened.
23:34
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know what.
23:36
Speaker 2: Is this podcast?
23:38
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm blo I'm I'm I'm literally doing
23:42
a podcast with Guy High on Finanel right now. I
23:44
have no idea what the hell's going on.
23:51
Speaker 2: My friendships were often fleeting, as were any positive relationships
23:56
that I ever had with my teachers. Because of the
23:58
events that followed, my memory of one teacher in particular
24:02
is probably slightly skewed, but I will attempt to give
24:05
the least biased version of our friendship that I can.
24:10
Speaker 1: Miss.
24:11
Speaker 2: I really hope this is another pedophile story. It's God
24:15
every time we like because I accidentally slipped into it.
24:18
If all the other ones, I have set up his
24:20
land mines for Hunter, but I don't want to get
24:22
tricked by you.
24:23
Speaker 1: All every time that it's just like it's an old
24:26
All these stories always such a sewed up where it's
24:28
just like, yep, my name's Bryce, I'm eight, and this
24:32
is my relationship with a forty two year old man.
24:34
And you're just like, what's going on? And he's like, yeah,
24:40
there was weird clown. He was really scary. You're like, okay,
24:43
all right, why do we have to always have to
24:46
go here? Which, to be fair, you know we're gonna
24:48
get have ourselves. Let's see what happens with mister Mays.
24:51
Speaker 2: I'm going to hold out hope that he's not that.
24:53
I hope he's cool. Yeah, mister Mays was one of
24:57
my social studies teachers in the early years my high
25:00
school experience.
25:01
Speaker 1: Being older.
25:02
Speaker 2: Now, I can understand how horrible children are to deal
25:04
with around that age, and I respect him to know
25:07
ends for the way he was able to connect with
25:08
his students. Okay, good, thank god. I was about being
25:12
like being older now, I see some problems.
25:14
Speaker 1: But no, He's like, yeah, well, I'm still holding my breath.
25:17
I don't trust it. Still.
25:20
Speaker 2: He seemed like one of us. He talks like us,
25:24
made pop culture references that were current, listen to cool music,
25:28
and sometimes he would even say hell or damn while
25:31
he was giving a passionate lecture about Native American history
25:33
or something like that. A teacher that swore even a
25:37
little bit was the epitome of cool to a freshman
25:39
in high school. That's actually true. I remember in high school,
25:42
like very trying some teachers that swore, and I was like, I,
25:45
this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.
25:47
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think I heard one of my history teachers.
25:50
This is actually kind of fucked up. I heard one
25:52
of my history teachers back in the day when I
25:53
was like, I think a freshman in high school. He
25:56
was like, Robert E. Lee was the shit, and I
25:58
was like, whoa, that's awesome and I and then looking
26:00
back at it, I'm like, is it cool to say
26:03
that the Confederate War general was this ship?
26:06
Speaker 2: You were you were so caught up with the with
26:09
the swear that ship.
26:11
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Roberty Lee is super cool.
26:14
Speaker 2: That's how you red pill. Like high school kids, you
26:18
just swear while talking about something.
26:21
Speaker 1: They're like based based.
26:25
Speaker 2: Little hunter talking about based Confederate soldiers their flag.
26:30
Speaker 1: Sure is cool. My mom's like no.
26:32
Speaker 2: No, no, no no stop.
26:34
Speaker 1: No no no no, no other way, child, other way.
26:39
Speaker 2: My memories of mister Mays mostly stemmed from the way
26:41
that he really got into anything that he was doing.
26:44
The instance that is still very vivid in my mind was,
26:46
of course, around Halloween of my sophomore year. Mister Mays
26:51
had the typical teacher decorations around the classroom, smiling jack
26:54
o' lanyards and black cat cartoons, typical and boring in
26:58
the minds of egotistic high school students. However, on the
27:02
thirty first of October, when most other teachers were rolling
27:05
their eyes of the fact the teenagers still took dressing
27:08
up and costume on Halloween seriously, mister Mays took the
27:11
whole cool teacher thing to a new level. We walked
27:15
into the classroom and were surprised to find the blind
27:17
strawn sheets over the small windows, candles lighting the room,
27:21
and a single frowning Jack o' lantern sitting on a
27:24
stool in the front.
27:25
Speaker 1: Of the desks.
27:26
Speaker 2: Mister May said at his desk, just watching the students
27:29
come into class and take their seats, you didn't have
27:32
to ask anyone to be quiet, because the moment everyone
27:34
walked into the room, they were either too excited to
27:37
care about petty conversations or too confused to bother with them.
27:41
The students took their seats as mister Mays began his lecture,
27:45
he spoke quietly to set the mood and took a
27:48
seat on a chair right next to the Jack o
27:50
lantern in the center of the room.
27:53
Speaker 1: Today is probably my favorite day of the year. Class.
27:56
Halloween is my favorite holiday, and I want to share
27:59
you with you exactly what why I love it. So much.
28:02
Speaker 2: One girl raised her hand with a concerned look on
28:04
her face.
28:05
Speaker 1: I'm pushing the due date for your papers next Tuesday.
28:08
Speaker 2: Said mister Mays, without bothering to look at the girl.
28:10
We slowly put her hand down, looking around at the
28:13
students with the hint of embarrassment.
28:15
Speaker 1: God, is he just shut her right the foot just
28:20
like raise her hand up. She's like, you can nerd.
28:24
Speaker 2: I remember we had one teacher in high school. He's
28:27
looking looking back. He's one of the coolest teachers ever.
28:30
He like he had He was a literature teacher, and
28:33
he had us read The Road in high school, which
28:37
is an insane book to get junior high school students.
28:40
But I remember reading McCarthy and then like developing a
28:43
love for stories. I really attribute a lot of what
28:45
he taught to where I am now. Uh, And I
28:48
remember he had this policy that if any like student,
28:52
we couldn't game it. But if naturally any student was like, uh,
28:55
you forgot to take up the homework, he'd be like,
28:57
that's lame, no homework.
29:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, we'll say too. That was kind of
29:03
just kind of sweet to get to let kids read
29:05
Cormack McCarthy at an early age I think is I
29:08
think is actually pretty fucking cool.
29:10
Speaker 2: I remember still.
29:11
Speaker 1: Like heavy subject matter, but I think I think obviously
29:15
it's written by like, I mean, a literature savant, so
29:18
it's it's I just think that kind of stuff is
29:21
always Also, I think his stuff is hard reads, but
29:23
I would never say it's smut or it's like no
29:25
gratuitous to be or two you know what I mean,
29:27
not at.
29:27
Speaker 2: All, Like sure there's heavy themes in it, but it's
29:29
just good books with heavy themes.
29:32
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this really quickly.
29:34
Speaker 2: The moment that I kind of decided I wanted to
29:37
dive into like why people tell stories and stuff like that.
29:40
We so it was The Road, right, and he had
29:43
been a literature teacher for like fifteen twenty years, and
29:49
he said that he taught the Road when he first
29:51
started teaching, but he hasn't taught The Road in like
29:55
the past, like ten years or whatever. So he gets
29:59
up there in class on the first day we're about
30:01
to read it, and he says, I'll let you all know,
30:04
I haven't read I haven't taught this book since my
30:09
son was born. So now I'm not just looking at
30:12
it as a man in a wasteland. I'm looking at
30:14
it as a father seeing his son. So he opens
30:18
the book and he starts reading, and he reads the
30:21
line that says the father looked at his son that
30:25
if his son were not the voice of God, then
30:27
God never spoke. And as soon as he read it,
30:29
he cried like a tear came.
30:31
Speaker 1: Out of his eye.
30:32
Speaker 2: And I remember I remember seeing that and thinking, this
30:35
book matters to that guy. I want to find out why.
30:38
I want to read it myself, and I went home
30:40
and read the whole book in one night, became obsessed
30:42
with it, wanted to get more into literature, and now
30:45
I'm here. So yeah, like teachers who actually care about
30:49
their work and put themselves into it can have such
30:51
a profound effect on kids.
30:53
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. You also had a very mature response to that,
30:56
because remember one time we watched I think it was
30:58
Gone with the Wind, and it's a part where the
31:00
woman rides the horse and dies and her teacher was
31:02
crying and the entire class was just laughing at her,
31:09
I mean, without without hesitation. I think the woman says,
31:13
just like Paul, and my teachers like tearing up and crying,
31:16
and we're just like I mean, like hysterically laughing. It's
31:21
like could not be pull her up more poll opposite
31:24
to your story.
31:28
Speaker 2: Okay, I you know what, without comment, let's continue. The
31:35
class erupted in quiet cheers, and mister Mays waited for
31:38
the inevitable silence. He began his story immediately after the
31:42
classroom had calmed down. I will attempt to recreate the
31:46
amazing story that mister Mays told us told the class
31:49
that day. The way in which he told this story
31:52
rendered the horror junkie speechless and the rest of the
31:54
class terrified. The same girl that had raised her hand
31:57
to ask about the paper was holding her knees to
31:59
her chest by the end of it, look of terror
32:01
on her face. The important thing to know was what
32:05
the story was about. The specific split my mind now
32:09
and aren't too relevant. I'll try to recount the parts
32:12
of the story that matter the most, but don't hold
32:14
me to it. Basically, mister Mason and his friends set
32:17
out on a road trip around the country after graduating
32:20
from college. It took a truck, loaded it with camping
32:23
gear and set out to sight see for the entire summer.
32:27
The group went from the Poconos in New Jersey, down
32:30
to the coast of Florida, New Orleans, to California, and
32:33
up to Washington. From there, they went to the Rocky
32:36
Mountains in Colorado and then back home to New York.
32:40
This concept of the freedom to travel anywhere had the
32:43
entire class hooked in an instant. Mister Mason was the
32:45
coolest teacher ever in my eyes. Being adventurous college kids,
32:50
the group didn't bring a map. There were no time constraints,
32:54
so they just kind of drove in the general direction
32:57
that they wanted to go and eventually found a town
32:59
to stay in or someplace that looked interesting. He told
33:03
us that after spending a week in Colorado, he and
33:06
his friends had to travel through miles and miles of
33:08
corn plains and more corn. He assumed that they were
33:13
in either Nebraska or Kansas when they decided to pull
33:16
their extra cash and stay in a hotel for a night.
33:18
They settled into a motel in some town that mister
33:21
Mays could barely remember the name of. When one of
33:23
his friends realized that they were somewhere near his grandfather's farm,
33:28
he wasn't entirely sure where it was, but being adventurous
33:31
college kids, they decided to get a quick refund from
33:33
the motel and try to contact the friend's grandpa. They
33:38
were unable to get a hold of the grandpa on
33:40
the phone, so the group figured it would be fun
33:43
to just show up. Mister May's friend was adamant that
33:46
his grandparents would take them in and feed them without
33:49
a moment of hesitation. So group set out with an
33:53
hour of sunlight, seeking the salvation of a comfortable house
33:56
to stay in Kansas or Nebraska, go wherever it may
34:01
have been. There are on a whole lot of natural
34:03
markers that could guide lost travelers. Any directions given to
34:07
someone who didn't live around the area basically amounted to
34:10
go up a couple of miles to the corn, take
34:13
a ride, and go down a dirt road to the
34:15
other corn. There should be some wheat on your right. So,
34:19
as is the case of most scary stories, the group
34:21
got lost. Never wanting to admit defeat, they drove into
34:25
the night, making wrong turns every five minutes until they
34:27
found themselves on a wooded road that mister May's friend
34:31
was certain that his grandparents lived off of. Mister Mays
34:35
described the road as basically a dark path to hell.
34:39
I wasn't entirely sure how true this was, because he
34:41
got very excited and a bit ridiculous with his explanations
34:45
of the trees that almost tried to grab the car
34:48
and the red eyes of countless animals looking at them
34:51
from the darkness. Regardless, the typical horror tropes worked on
34:55
most of the class, everyone was terrified.
35:00
Speaker 1: Of guys.
35:00
Speaker 2: Drove on this dark road for about fifteen minutes before
35:03
they came to a clearing and a small building with
35:05
lights in it and what seemed to be a silo.
35:09
They figured that at the very least the people who
35:12
lived here would be able to help find where the
35:14
guy's parents lived. The whole idea of everyone knows everyone
35:18
in these hick parts of the country fueled his hope.
35:22
They pulled the car up near the building, realizing when
35:25
they were out of the car that it appeared to
35:27
be like the kind of places where one would try
35:30
to store a whole bunch of chickens, not a home. Still,
35:33
the lights were on, so they figured they would give
35:35
it a try. They approached the building as a group,
35:38
looking in the semi open sliding door to find a
35:41
big empty room hanging fluorescent lights lit the room like
35:45
it was daytime and they couldn't see a soul. There
35:49
were no cars, but one of mister May's friends was
35:52
convinced he'd seen someone as they pulled up, so they
35:55
decided to go inside see if there was an office
35:58
or something where someone might still be working. Why else
36:02
would they have this huge place lit up like that.
36:05
There were no doors on the inside of the building. Again,
36:08
it was just a giant, empty hall. So the group
36:11
roamed around the property and over towards the silo. As
36:15
they got closer, they noticed what appeared to be a
36:18
cellar door. At this point, I remember mister Mays telling
36:23
the entire class to learn from his idiocy. He told
36:27
us that he hadn't seen many horror movies before that
36:29
time and didn't think twice about approaching a creepy cellar
36:32
door in the middle of a dark, scary foreign place,
36:37
so that approaching the door was one of his biggest regrets.
36:42
Mister Mays let the whole class know that he was
36:44
going to tell us as much as he deemed appropriate
36:47
about the experience. He felt that we were mature enough
36:50
to handle it, but advised anyone that was squeamish to
36:54
leave class early, several students quietly gathered their things and
36:58
walked out the door, a couple of them being stoners
37:01
who saw this as an opportunity to smoke behind the
37:03
school before their next class. I didn't even give the
37:06
announcement a second thought. Like I said, I was and
37:10
am a sucker for this kind of stuff, and mister
37:12
Mays was telling a story much better than anything I
37:15
had ever conjured up. I wanted to learn from this guy,
37:18
even though I didn't believe much of the story.
37:21
Speaker 1: I think that people also that maybe haven't grown up
37:25
in the Midwest or people that have grown up in
37:27
the Midwest, will relate to this. But I'm from Missouri
37:31
right on the Kansas border as well. There's something that's
37:34
like very eerie about like Midwest open pastures and cornfields
37:40
and stuff. It's very much like the ocean. It's very
37:42
easy to get lost in there, and it's like a
37:44
big sea of nothing. And it did sometimes like kind
37:47
of stumble upon these houses and stuff, like this old
37:50
kind of building or whatever. It's so uncanny in a
37:54
lot of ways, like it's obviously it's just like, oh,
37:55
it's just farmland. It's a guy's farmhouse. Whatever, but it's
37:58
still just like so weird to like it's almost like
38:01
a small island in this like sea of like blank
38:04
empty I mean nothing, I mean plants and all that
38:08
kind of stuff. And even that little description of him
38:10
saying like when you went down the roads and the
38:11
trees are grabbing at us, like before he's come about
38:15
the red eyes looking back at us, I thought that
38:17
was kind of peticuliar, because I've been down many you know,
38:19
just old dirt roads where the trees are kind of
38:22
growing into almost the road itself, so you're almost like
38:25
your car is almost scraping past some of these branches.
38:28
Speaker 2: It's like they're trying to retake the ground there, right,
38:31
like they're slowly approaching over it.
38:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're also encroaching on something too, where it's like
38:37
these trees have not been trimmed. You're kind of like
38:40
you're you're going to some place where it's like no
38:41
one cares to clean this up, Like there's not enough
38:44
traffic to go through that would make this place of via.
38:47
You know, like if even like people driving down to
38:50
themselves and knocking the branches over or whatever. It's just
38:52
it's such an untapped part of like, I don't know, Earth,
38:57
it's very it. I wish that more stories would elicit
39:02
more aesthetics from the Midwest. It's so empty and like
39:07
just so void of life in a lot of places
39:09
that I think it's such a perfect spot.
39:11
Speaker 2: There's something weird about like looping geometry almost or looping
39:17
like a landscape over and over, you know, where it
39:21
does kind of become something you could easily be lost,
39:23
and there's no place markers for it. It's a good
39:26
setting for something like those.
39:28
Speaker 1: It's also a lot more chaotic than something like the
39:30
Left Right game, where you know, Phoenix the city or
39:33
like cities themselves are built on grid systems and stuff.
39:36
And while there's plots of land and farm lands and
39:38
stuff like that, there's so much stuff that isn't marked,
39:41
like man made roads, man made trails, all kinds of
39:44
stuff that's just completely hidden from public maps or public
39:48
information and stuff. So I don't know, it's just it's
39:51
very creepy, but I'm stoked. I'm curious to see what's
39:54
in this cellar.
39:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very invested. It's rare that I get to
39:58
read one of these for the show and I don't
40:00
know what's about to happen, So I'm excited.
40:02
Speaker 1: I'm stoked.
40:03
Speaker 2: After the class had thinned a bit, mister Mays continued
40:06
with the story. He told the remaining few that he
40:09
and his friends opened that cellar door, releasing a smell
40:12
that he only described as the most putrid thing my
40:15
senses have ever experienced. The group was no longer concerned
40:19
with finding the owners of the property, but was now
40:22
said on finding the source of that smell. They went
40:25
down the steps into the cellar, which was lit by
40:27
a single bulbs space sporadically along the ceiling of a
40:31
long hallway. Now once folk things had gotten too strange.
40:36
The walls were lined with metal sheeting, similar to the
40:39
roofing on farms. The hallway itself was crooked, and the
40:42
ceilings constantly lowered in rows, like a tunnel that was
40:46
hastily dug and then never touched up. There were sections
40:50
where the boys had to almost crouch in order to pass.
40:54
Speaker 1: Are we assuming that the lights are on there? Or
40:56
are they just looking at the empty bulbs and they're
40:58
just saying.
40:58
Speaker 2: I think they're on, because otherwise, in a crawl space
41:01
like this you couldn't see anything.
41:03
Speaker 1: It's reading almost like a uh, it's reading almost like
41:07
a like kind of like a kill pig pen or something. Yeah,
41:12
it's reading very much like that. For people that don't
41:14
know that that that they kind of use that kind
41:16
of like edged, very cheap thin middle siding and they
41:20
just have the pigs go through there. But usually it's like,
41:22
you know, it's a slaughterhouse or something.
41:25
Speaker 2: The worst part, mister Mace told us, was that the
41:27
light bulbs continuously flickered. There's your answer to if.
41:30
Speaker 1: They're on or not.
41:31
Speaker 2: Okay, there sometimes acting like a strobe light and making
41:34
it very difficult to move through the winding and unstable hallways.
41:38
In hindsight, he was certain that his mind was playing
41:41
tricks on him. But you remember seeing flashes of things
41:43
that couldn't be there. He said that when you are
41:47
that focused on something, or if you are that nervous,
41:51
your mind can do that to you. It can simply revolt,
41:55
showing you things or people that aren't there. Could you
41:59
usually describe the I was on the edge of my seat.
42:02
The halls were windy and seemed to go on forever.
42:05
Mister May's guests they were somewhere under the creepy forest.
42:09
They had driven through when they found a door, but
42:11
he couldn't be sure. He said that they came upon
42:15
a door after walking for what felt like a mile.
42:18
It was simple and wooden, but it looked like it
42:21
belonged outside of a suburban home. It had a nice design,
42:25
seemed to be freshly painted red, and had a very
42:28
nice knob and knocker on it. It was a door
42:31
that belongs at the entrance to a nice house, not
42:33
one that should be sitting in a dirt tunnel in
42:35
the middle of nowhere. His friend walked towards the door,
42:39
moving carefully because of the flashing light bulb and increasingly
42:43
and increasing uncertainty about the stability of the surrounding walls.
42:48
He turned to the group, the rest of which were
42:50
nervous at the very least, and attempted to lighten the
42:54
mood with a laugh before he said.
42:57
Speaker 1: I should probably knock first.
43:00
Speaker 2: Ter May's friend grabbed a steel knocker and hid it
43:02
against the door several times, mockingly.
43:04
Speaker 1: Quietly uttering is anyone home?
43:08
Speaker 2: The group waited about thirty seconds before their tension broke.
43:11
The guy next to the door shrugged his shoulders and
43:14
went to walk back to his friends, but as he did,
43:18
the light bulb between them surged and exploded. The boys
43:22
shielded their eyes and looked back to their lone friend
43:24
by the door. As he lowered his hands, one of
43:27
the metal sheets of the makeshift rof trot at the
43:31
edge of the sheet fell directly on the boy's forehead,
43:33
slicing it open, sitting a wave of blood down his face.
43:38
The impact apparently knocked him out, and he fell back
43:40
against the door, knocking it open in the process. The
43:46
entirety of the group rushed through the dim light to
43:48
their friend, barely noticing the seemingly pitch black room that
43:52
now lay before them. Mister Mays was the first to
43:54
make it to his friend's side. He lifted the guy's
43:57
head to his arms, immediately taking off off his jacket
44:00
and putting it over his forehead to attempt to stop
44:03
the bleeding. Once the group had calmed down, mister Mays
44:06
noticed that the arm that had been bracing his friend's
44:08
head was soaking wet. He was confused about this and
44:11
was attempting to sort it out when one of his
44:13
friends started talking. He said something along the lines of
44:17
the light we have to go, and mister Mays took notice.
44:22
Speaker 1: You know when you turn off a light and everything
44:24
is almost pitch black except the light of the bulb
44:27
dying out or cooling down. It was like that, but
44:32
there were so many of them. At least twenty light
44:34
bulbs had lit the room seconds ago and now only
44:37
looked like little stars in the darkness. That was definitely terrifying.
44:42
But that wasn't the scariest thing.
44:44
Speaker 2: There was still a very dim light coming from the
44:46
hallway behind them, though it was weak, lit the room
44:49
up just enough to see the shape of tens of
44:52
people stating less than ten feet in front of them.
44:56
Oh shit, mister May's friend went to say something else
44:59
as one of the to the right flicker to life.
45:03
Let me interrupt at this point and say that mister
45:05
Mace was a generally playful guy. He had that tone
45:08
of voice that makes you want to respond. Basically, he
45:11
could say.
45:13
Speaker 1: Let's go jump off a cliff, guys.
45:14
Speaker 2: And you would want to respond.
45:16
Speaker 1: With, all right, mister Mays, show us the way that is.
45:22
Speaker 2: That is a ridiculous statement, but it gets the point across.
45:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, guys, let's go drunk driving. All right,
45:29
I'm already drinking. Let's go jump off a cliff. All right,
45:33
It's like, what are you talking about? He'd follow him
45:35
off a cliff. The fuck are you talking about? Weirdo?
45:39
I think I think he was just I think you're
45:43
the weird one. He's very much the weird guy. He's like,
45:46
he's the best. We had this guy when I was kad.
45:53
When I was a kid, there was a teacher head
45:55
named mister Dikes. Yes I know, and he uh, he
45:59
would like aways joke around with people and stuff, and
46:02
there was just like this really kind of like weird
46:04
kid in the class. But he would always like he'd
46:06
like make fun of me, mister Dykes, and he's like, no,
46:08
I died, I'm okay. He's like, give me a nickname,
46:11
call me an idiot, and he would like scream that
46:13
out in the class. And this is the narrator is
46:15
slowly becoming that guy. And I'm trying to not picture it,
46:17
but it's becoming very hard.
46:20
Speaker 2: Do you know what happened to that guy? If he
46:22
grew up after high school? This could be his story.
46:24
Who knows.
46:25
Speaker 1: I don't know. Who knows.
46:27
Speaker 2: He was a charismatic guy. The whole story up to
46:29
this point had been told like a campfire story. He
46:32
had the voice inflections of someone attempting to be mysterious
46:36
and scary, which worked, but was noticeable. At this point
46:40
in his tall I recalled that changing completely, he was
46:44
no longer attempting to spook anyone. I could tell that
46:47
this section was difficult for him. Either he was a
46:49
very good actor or it was really a terrifying memory
46:53
for him to relive. He told us that the light
46:56
bulb came to life and illuminated the group of people
46:59
in front of him. In the dim light, he could
47:01
see children, at least twenty of them in just the
47:04
visible light. They were all dressed in nightgowns that looked
47:07
to be tattered and torn, staying dark with something. Their
47:12
hair was long. Every single one of them looked like
47:15
they had not had a haircut since birth. Some of
47:18
the children were almost completely obscured by the length of it.
47:22
Every single one of them didn't appear to have seen
47:24
a shower or a nice bath in their entire life.
47:28
Mister Mays told us that the most terrifying part of
47:30
the whole thing was that none of the children were moving.
47:34
They were all standing staring, most of them only visible
47:38
from the faint light reflecting off their eyes. His whole
47:42
group was paralyzed with fear for several seconds when they
47:45
heard what sounded like an animal in the distance yelping.
47:50
The way it was described was like the sound of
47:52
a dog cry multiplied by ten. This spurred the group
47:56
to light. Just as the children began to step forward,
47:59
his friends grabbed the he injured one, and lifted him
48:01
out of the room and into the hallway in an instant.
48:03
Mister Mays took another second to move and had difficulty
48:06
finding his bearings. He reached to his left in an
48:09
attempt to find a wall to lean against and ended
48:11
up finding a handle, then pulled hard, never losing his
48:14
vision of the children, He bolted for the door right
48:19
as he noticed what he had grabbed onto. A shower
48:22
head protruded from a cement wall, reaching maybe a foot
48:26
into the room. There was something leaking from it, but
48:30
it was too dim to tell what it was. He
48:33
realized that it had been lenking on to him that
48:35
he didn't care. There were now children stammering towards him,
48:39
as an animal cried in the distance, and his friends
48:42
was seriously injured. As he left the room, he made
48:45
a point to emphasize that he could make out several
48:47
more shower heads on the wall near the single dim
48:50
light bulb.
48:52
Speaker 1: This is why I called the room the showers.
48:55
Speaker 2: Mister Mays told the class. I was transfixed, sitting as
48:58
far forward as my desk would bracing for more.
49:02
Speaker 1: I slammed the red door behind me. I ran through
49:04
the hallway faster than I ever run before or since.
49:08
But it made back to the car and we drove
49:10
out of there like a bat out of hell.
49:13
Speaker 2: A couple of students snickered his use of the word hell.
49:18
Speaker 1: So when you're out Trigg or Treeing tonight, make sure
49:21
you know exactly where you're headed, and don't go to
49:24
any abandoned farmhouses. I mean, there aren't many around here,
49:28
but you're all smart kids. Picks up Jerry.
49:32
Speaker 2: The class laughed and the mood lighted. As the bell
49:34
rang for passing period. Mister Mace turned the light on,
49:38
thanked everyone for listening, reminded them about the paper due
49:41
next week, and told us to have a safe and
49:43
happy Halloween. Students all around me were a buzz with
49:46
theories about the story they had.
49:48
Speaker 1: Just heard, but it was some sort of crazy Nazi hideout.
49:52
Speaker 2: Said one girl.
49:54
Speaker 1: I'd think that they were all ghost babies, that they
49:57
were killed by a dog.
49:58
Speaker 2: Said another. I couldn't theorize in the slightest I was
50:03
still caught up in the moment. The way that mister
50:05
Mays had told that story, in the detail that he
50:08
included in it, left me feeling like we didn't get
50:10
the whole story. A couple days later, I stayed after
50:14
class and asked him about how it really ended, what
50:17
happened to his friend. He laughed and said that his
50:19
friend was fine and that it was honestly, he whispered this.
50:22
Speaker 1: Part probably due to some of the drugs that we
50:26
were doing at the time.
50:27
Speaker 2: Mister Mays winked at me as if to say, don't
50:30
tell anyone about the drugs. Bit kid, and I smiled
50:33
and left. I lived in that town for another couple
50:36
of months, and then was rapidly moved halfway across the
50:38
country to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I twisted the story around and
50:43
told it around campfires as I got older, and it
50:46
was always a hit, but always changed the ending, letting
50:49
the friend die of blood loss or from being dragged
50:51
away by the children. Wasn't until college that I got
50:54
a chance to talk to mister Mays again. Okay, initially,
50:58
what do you think so far? How do you feel?
51:02
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I feel like, I mean, he's right, there's
51:06
no way that's the full story and stuff. And I
51:08
think that mister Mays is you know, hiding probably some
51:12
of the graphic stuff from the children and stuff and
51:14
just you know whatever. But I think we're getting ready
51:18
to take our first big nose dive into some real
51:23
shit that's getting ready to happen, especially like now he's
51:26
in college, he's older. We're assuming that he's basically eighteen
51:28
to twenty one years old here, and he's running into
51:31
his old his old you know, freshman teacher from high school.
51:36
So I'm curious. I'm very curious to see what happened.
51:38
What do you think about? You?
51:39
Speaker 2: What do you think about So the way the story
51:41
played out to me is there going down the tunnel
51:46
and then the friend gets to a door, the roofing
51:50
falls on his head. He knocks open the door, and
51:52
when they go to pick him up, that's when he
51:54
sees everyone is standing in the room past the door.
51:58
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, Yeah, So it's there, and there there was
52:02
like the shitty metal like barn sighting metal dropped hit
52:07
the guy in the head. He like blacks out from
52:09
the gash in his head. He falls to the door,
52:12
and from the light in there, you can just kind
52:15
of barely see essentially twenty children with like nightgowns, extremely
52:20
long hair, and you can just kind of see the
52:21
light in their eyes a little bit, and they're kind
52:23
of slowly moving towards them.
52:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to say initially, like I really loved
52:29
the writing style. I almost kind of forgot that I
52:33
am reading a fictional story about another fictional story. It
52:35
felt like someone a real person, recounting a story they heard, right.
52:41
It feels very legitimate, very earned a lot of it.
52:44
I like mister Mays as a character, especially that part
52:48
where he's like, it's probably some of the drugs, if
52:50
I'm being honest, you know, trying to play it off.
52:52
But yeah, I'm sold on it so far. I'm hook line.
52:55
Speaker 1: And see they did a nice They did a nice
52:58
thing here too, where he's been very joky the whole time,
53:01
and even the author made a note to be like,
53:04
oh he his tone changed, which when I was listening
53:07
to it, I assume at first he's like, oh, this
53:09
is a scary story from you know, something happened to
53:12
me whatever. And then as he's recounting it, I think
53:14
that even he himself got kind of lost in retelling it,
53:17
and I think he's kind of like reliving that terror
53:19
and he has to kind of snap himself back and
53:21
be like, oh, but you know, we made it out
53:22
and we had it, you know. And so I like
53:25
that juxtaposition that happens there. But I think I'm curious
53:30
to hear what he says here when he sees him
53:31
as a college student.
53:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to college in northern New York, not
53:35
for any reasons associated with this story. College was a
53:39
fun time for me. I continued being the same Ham
53:42
that I'd always been.
53:44
Speaker 1: God the fucking Ham comment day.
53:46
Speaker 2: It's got to be regional. It has to be a regional.
53:48
Speaker 1: It has to be regional. It is, it has to be.
53:51
Speaker 2: It wasn't until sometime around my junior year that I
53:53
ran into mister May's at a bar that I frequented. Inditionally,
53:57
I couldn't be sure that the person I saw lane
54:00
his head buried in his arm at the bar was
54:02
mister Mays. The only trait that grabbed my attention was
54:05
a sweater that he used to wear on his birthday
54:07
during class. The shirt simply read I'm the birthday boy.
54:12
That's sad, that's amazed, trash, it's sad by himself just
54:16
hammered on with the shirt that says I'm the birthday boy.
54:19
That's the most depressing thing ever. Man. I told my
54:24
group of friends to grab a table and that I
54:26
would join them in a second. Then walked over to
54:28
the man at the bar. Mister Mays, I said, and
54:32
the man looked up. The man took a second to
54:34
look at my face before he smiled, put a hand
54:37
on my shoulder and.
54:38
Speaker 1: Said, hey there, son, how have you been.
54:42
Speaker 2: I could smell some strong whiskey on his breath, and
54:44
his cheeks were flushed. Look in his eyes told me
54:47
that he was three sheets to the wind and probably
54:49
had no idea who I was.
54:52
Speaker 1: Mister Mays, it's Jack. I was a student of yours
54:55
for a couple semesters about six or so years ago.
54:58
Speaker 2: His face changed a bit, A genuine look of recognition
55:01
set in, took a calmer tone, smiled and.
55:04
Speaker 1: Said, how you been? Jack?
55:07
Speaker 2: We talked for a solid twenty minutes. I told him
55:09
what I had been doing for the last several years,
55:11
and he told me apparently he was still teaching at
55:14
the same school, doing the same old stick, as he
55:17
called it. I asked if everything was all right, and
55:20
he said that they were as good as they ever
55:22
have been or wherever going to get It took me
55:25
a while to realize that I was an adult that
55:27
was having a conversation with another adult. Every time I'd
55:31
spoken to mister Mays. Previously, I had been in the
55:33
student teacher relationship, but now I was just a guy
55:37
having a drink with a friend at the bar. My
55:40
friends eventually left and I continued to drink with Mister Mays.
55:44
Told me all about his divorce and his kids, things
55:47
I never would have asked or cared about previously, but
55:50
now I cared. He was a real person to me,
55:53
not just an idol anymore. This was a guy who
55:56
had real problems, not the invaluable teacher that I once
56:00
thought he was. It had been several hours before I
56:03
even brought up his story about the showers. I told
56:07
him all about my history with urban legends and scary stories,
56:09
and he just laughed when I mentioned the story that
56:12
he had told us years ago. He almost seemed uncomfortable,
56:16
finished his whiskey, signaled for another, and then turned to
56:19
me and got very serious.
56:22
Speaker 1: Listen, Jack, I don't know why I kept telling that
56:25
story year after year.
56:28
Speaker 2: His words were slurred or my hearing was messed up.
56:31
We were both sufficiently blitzed at this point.
56:34
Speaker 1: That was what my therapist told me to do when
56:37
I was younger. I had to tell people it, to
56:41
come to groups with it or some shit.
56:43
Speaker 2: Took a big swig of his drink.
56:46
Speaker 1: Wait, your therapist, I said.
56:49
Speaker 2: Mister Mays laughed heartily and looked at me.
56:52
Speaker 1: Of course, Jack, you think that something like that wouldn't
56:56
fuck a person up?
56:57
Speaker 2: I was confused, but smiled. Nonetheless, things just gotten very strange.
57:04
Speaker 1: But I mean, you said you were all on drugs
57:07
or something, right, No one was too terribly hurt. You
57:10
were all okay, right?
57:12
Speaker 2: He got almost cartoonish with his sadness in the next
57:15
several seconds.
57:17
Speaker 1: Of course, we didn't, Jack, Why do you think I'm
57:20
here right now?
57:22
Speaker 2: I was puzzled, quickly filled with a thousand questions I
57:25
wanted to ask him, but I let him carry.
57:28
Speaker 1: On tim fucking. He didn't make it, Jack.
57:33
Speaker 2: He laughed, and his laugh turned suddenly to tears.
57:38
Speaker 1: Fucking took him, they did. I don't even know. The
57:43
cops told us we were just drunk and that he
57:46
wandered off and got taken by wildlife. But he didn't know.
57:51
He didn't see it, Jack.
57:53
Speaker 2: I was absolutely stonefaced at this point. Mister Mays was
57:57
carrying along like I knew the actual story, but I didn't.
58:00
His friend disappeared, I didn't know.
58:04
Speaker 1: I wish that they had found my body, though, then
58:08
we could have shown them. That's a bad place, Jack,
58:13
I don't know anything else to say it. It's a
58:15
bad place.
58:17
Speaker 2: Carried on for a couple of minutes more about his
58:19
friend and the fun that they had before they went
58:21
on that trip, and I let him talk. It was
58:24
only a few minutes later that his phone rang below.
58:27
Speaker 1: Sweetheart, I'll be on a second.
58:32
Speaker 2: I love you, baby, person on the other end hung
58:35
up the phone. Mister Mays got up to leave.
58:38
Speaker 1: It's been nice seeing you, Jackie. You got a good
58:41
head on your shoulders, boy, make sure you use it.
58:45
Speaker 2: He began to walk out of the bar. Mister Mays,
58:48
I yelled after.
58:49
Speaker 1: Him, Yeah, Jack.
58:51
Speaker 2: He turned back towards.
58:52
Speaker 1: Me, where'd you say all that shower business took place where? Hell?
58:58
Didn't I mention it? It's somewhere outside Broken Bow, Nebraska,
59:03
Fucking hell on the earth if you asked me.
59:05
Speaker 2: Mister Mays walked out of the bar after waving to me,
59:08
running into the wall before eventually finding the door. That
59:12
was the last time I would see him. I'd never
59:14
be able to tell him the impact that he had
59:16
on my life, or rather the impact that his story
59:19
had on me. You never know about the trip we
59:22
took after graduation, almost mimicking the one he and his
59:25
friends had made. He would never know that the things
59:28
he saw at that place were real. Why well, he
59:33
died about a month later as liver failed on him.
59:37
It's all right, though, because his family was with him
59:39
in the hospital room. He got to dice around people
59:42
that cared about him, And that is all I can
59:45
ask for a man like that. I experienced that place
59:49
too several years later. That is where my story turns.
59:54
The following is the story of how I came to
59:56
find the showers and why I will never ever go
1:00:01
anywhere You're Nebraska ever again. But it's the story when
1:00:05
I'm sober, the memory is clear enough.
1:00:09
Speaker 1: That is the end of part Oh yeah, part one end.
1:00:13
I am ready.
1:00:16
Speaker 2: That felt that it didn't felt you know, it just
1:00:20
when it hits right, and it's just kind of like, yeah,
1:00:24
that that's the natural conclusion for those endpoints. That's a
1:00:27
good setup for what's coming later.
1:00:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that that's really really fun.
1:00:33
I think at first it was kind of it did
1:00:36
have it's kind of interesting. It had like a nice
1:00:38
little uh, what is it like? Uh, it had like
1:00:41
a nice way of like, oh, this does feel like
1:00:42
it kind of like a child is writing this, or
1:00:44
like it has like a very kind of I would say,
1:00:47
albeit uh childish tone in a way, not that the
1:00:52
writing is juvenile, but like it's very lighthearted. It didn't
1:00:55
go really too anywhere, too crazy whatever. But then by
1:00:58
the end there it really did shift. How as he
1:01:00
got older to it felt like even the tone of
1:01:03
the writing was shifting. It felt it got like a
1:01:05
little bit more dark, a little more serious. I really
1:01:07
enjoyed that. M Yeah. I went from like, is this
1:01:10
only two parts? Do you know?
1:01:11
Speaker 2: It's only two parts to my knowledge?
1:01:14
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so yeah, this is awesome. I'm very stoked.
1:01:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first part is him as a kid learning
1:01:20
about it than part two is the actual journey. What
1:01:23
I will say is I like, like you mentioned, there's
1:01:26
more of a maturity to like the tone, especially the
1:01:29
subject matter, because it goes from like, oh, it's cool
1:01:31
he said hell or dam to like he died of
1:01:35
liver failure. You know, he's he's on his birthday at
1:01:39
a bar, going to some girl in the parking lot
1:01:43
who he may not know that well, you know, like
1:01:45
it's a very different place. But I like there's kind
1:01:47
of a there's a respect in the end, like he
1:01:49
died surrounded by his family, which is all I could
1:01:51
ask for a man like that. That's like, that's a
1:01:55
very it's solemn, sure, but it's also almost I don't
1:02:03
even know how to phrase it. It feels like the
1:02:06
way you would speak about some king or old legend, right, like.
1:02:11
Speaker 1: We definitely somebody you hold it high respect, which I
1:02:13
think that they've done that they've done very well. One
1:02:16
thing that he's done very well is so stating how
1:02:18
much that this person has made an impact on his life.
1:02:22
And you know, and even he has regurgitated that story
1:02:25
he made the way that I like to tell this
1:02:28
story is pieced together so far is he makes it
1:02:30
very adamant thing about like, oh I love urban legends.
1:02:34
I like, you know, I sway them to myself. I
1:02:36
you know, I change them up. And then after he
1:02:38
hears this story, even Jack takes the story and he
1:02:43
makes it his own as well, retells it kind of
1:02:46
makes up his own endings and stuff. But in a
1:02:48
way too. He then follows in mister May's footsteps that
1:02:52
happened with his friend, which this was the question I
1:02:55
was going to ask here. It's kind of a two parter.
1:02:59
Do you'd like the idea do you have mister Mays
1:03:01
as a character, because I like mister May's character a lot.
1:03:04
I think that it's just a guy. You can tell
1:03:05
he did something here, kind of a cool teacher, like
1:03:07
the way he set up do you think that? And yes,
1:03:09
he was drunk as well, but him telling him the
1:03:13
town feels if it's such a pivotal and horrible thing.
1:03:17
I feel like, I'm like, why would this guy then
1:03:21
tell him this? Right, obviously he's drunk and stuff, But
1:03:23
in a way, I'm like it made me suspicious of
1:03:25
him or his thing until they immediately shot down that
1:03:29
idea with him dying a month later. I don't really
1:03:32
know if we needed that. I was like kind of
1:03:33
like hoping that it would just be like, oh, yeah,
1:03:35
did I not tell you? And it would be some
1:03:37
kind of weird setup for something else down the road.
1:03:40
Did you like that whole sequence there?
1:03:42
Speaker 2: I did? But I are you saying do you think
1:03:45
it would have worked better if he didn't tell him
1:03:47
the location, or if it didn't tell us he died.
1:03:50
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it's just oddly suspicious that a guy
1:03:53
who's just like this is like a horrible place, it's
1:03:55
fucked up, right, and then he's like, oh, I didn't
1:03:58
tell you where it was, Oh it was in this
1:04:00
town outside of whatever. It feels like. If it's that
1:04:02
horrible and he's like a tell on earth, it'd be like,
1:04:04
don't even because you're doing two things here, you need
1:04:07
to set up that. Mister Mays is like, don't fucking
1:04:09
go there, don't be me right. But then when he dies,
1:04:12
you could have Jack maybe like go to his funeral
1:04:15
or something and they're like, oh, yeah, he would always
1:04:16
talk about this town in Nebraska, and then maybe someone
1:04:18
else who would tell him right, Or I think that
1:04:22
you need to just have him find it and then
1:04:23
we just never hear of mister May. I just don't
1:04:25
know how I like him dying there, Like I don't
1:04:27
know how necessary that is, Like I feel like he
1:04:29
could have just left and then Jack never saw him
1:04:31
again or something.
1:04:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe he goes to the funeral. So I
1:04:35
get what you mean that. If it's such a serious
1:04:37
saying to him, why would he blurt that out. The
1:04:38
only thing that I could excuse that as is it's
1:04:42
describing mister Mays as super drunk. Like it says that
1:04:46
he runs into the wall before going to the door, right.
1:04:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's he's severely intoxicated, and that then that's
1:04:52
like reason enough. But to me, I'm just like I
1:04:54
kind of wish that even mister Mays, it just you
1:04:57
kind of like it made I'm just like, God, damn it,
1:04:59
you stupid drunk bastard, you know what I mean, which,
1:05:03
which you know it's totally fine, but I would almost
1:05:05
like mister Mays to just be like just have that
1:05:07
moment where he's just like, don't go, like, don't even
1:05:10
I'm not gonna tell you. Don't worry about it, and
1:05:11
it sends Jack into the spiraling thing of like, holy shit,
1:05:14
I gotta know what this place is. Regardless, it was
1:05:17
just a thought I had. I'm still complete.
1:05:20
Speaker 2: I think that I get what you're saying. I kind
1:05:23
of I think i'd like it if there was more
1:05:25
in Beauty Left. It's kind of open and shut. I
1:05:28
like the kind of idea. It works for me, the
1:05:31
idea of like mister May's kind of being like the
1:05:33
mentor character that dies early and the story sort of
1:05:36
sends the character on his journey or what have you.
1:05:39
I think it works. But I think you're right. Maybe
1:05:41
it would work better if he kind of kept that
1:05:44
secret till he was dead and the and Jack finds
1:05:47
out some other way. Yeah, I could see.
1:05:49
Speaker 1: That, just just something just foo for thought, because I
1:05:52
really the story built up so is so far, and
1:05:54
I'm so excited to get into part two. But that
1:05:57
was just one thing at the end of part one
1:05:58
where I was just like, ah, you know, I wish
1:06:01
that there was maybe a more satisfying way where he
1:06:04
would have found that place, you know what I mean,
1:06:06
just a little food for thought. But I'm very bought in.
1:06:09
I'm very excited, and I you know, part two this
1:06:12
is the last part here, So it's kind of crazy.
1:06:15
It's like I didn't know if we were getting ready
1:06:17
to go into like a penpalate venture where it's six
1:06:19
different many stories or whatever. But now with just like
1:06:22
last part here, which I'm just assuming is Jack and
1:06:24
his friend's adventure. So yeah, well we'll have to say.
1:06:29
Speaker 2: Let's begin with part two, Part two. I'm awake now,
1:06:36
semi sober, and ready to finish this for you guys,
1:06:39
the internet and whoever cares to hear it. I didn't
1:06:42
find out that mister Mays had passed away until a
1:06:45
couple months after the funeral service. Initially I was going
1:06:49
to seek out his family in order to send my condolences,
1:06:52
but it wasn't as if mister Mays and I were
1:06:54
best friends or anything like that, so I refrained. I
1:06:57
continued through my college career and graduated a year or
1:07:00
so after our bar meeting. Graduating with English as my
1:07:03
major wasn't a mistake, but it wasn't exactly something that
1:07:07
landed me any sort of immediate jobs after college. Okay,
1:07:10
I like that for one, that the guy who wanted
1:07:12
to be a storyteller and like was so obsessed with
1:07:15
a story kind of follows in the footsteps of the
1:07:17
teacher almost becomes an English teacher.
1:07:18
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, that makes total sense. Perfect evolution there. Yeah.
1:07:23
Speaker 2: Now, I had saved a pretty solid amount of money
1:07:25
while I was in school and decided that I deserved
1:07:28
a bit of a vacation, if you will. I took
1:07:30
my spare cash, got together with my college buddy Steve,
1:07:33
packed up and hit the road, aiming for somewhere in
1:07:36
the Rocky Mountains. I had lived near Littleton, Colorado when
1:07:40
I was younger and remembered loving the area, so this
1:07:43
destination was as good as any.
1:07:45
Speaker 1: The trip was a success.
1:07:47
Speaker 2: We made it somewhere around Estes Park, Colorado, and found
1:07:50
a cheap cabin that we rented for about a month.
1:07:52
The days were filled with lounging, hiking, and generally things
1:07:56
that involved little to no work on our part. Our
1:08:00
rental was through, we packed up again and headed on
1:08:02
our way back east. Sometime during the strip we had
1:08:07
met up with a couple Estes part natives in one
1:08:08
of the local bars. We never typically hung out with
1:08:12
them or anything like that. We just had conversations now
1:08:14
and then over drinks and food. One night, these guys
1:08:18
were paying their tab and packing up to leave awfully early.
1:08:21
They were usually there until the wee hours of the morning.
1:08:24
When we questioned them about it, they told us that
1:08:26
they were headed to a little get together with some
1:08:28
friends of theirs, and they invited us. Having nothing else
1:08:31
to do, we hopped in the car and followed them
1:08:33
to the party. The party itself was very low key
1:08:37
and ultimately inconsequential to the story. However, the important thing
1:08:41
about it was that at some point in the night,
1:08:43
we were all sitting around the fire and swamping ghost stories.
1:08:47
At this point in my life, I wasn't as much
1:08:48
of a ham as I was in my younger years.
1:08:52
They're sprinkling that in there just for you, hunter, just
1:08:55
to bother you.
1:08:55
Speaker 1: I feel it. You know what I like it? Now,
1:09:00
go ahead hit me to it.
1:09:04
Speaker 2: But with a little bit of encouragement, I started on
1:09:06
a couple of stories that I remember telling in my youth.
1:09:09
Eventually I made it to mister May's story about showers.
1:09:14
Every time that I told it after hearing it from
1:09:15
mister May's, I had spliced it up a little bit,
1:09:19
but out of some sort of subconscious respect for my
1:09:22
former teacher, I went straight into the version that he
1:09:24
told my class in my sophomore year of high school.
1:09:29
The group enjoyed my stories for the most part, the
1:09:31
showers being the mutual favorite among the partygoers. Steve and
1:09:35
I left for the cabinet around five in the morning,
1:09:37
and he asked me about the story on the drive home.
1:09:39
I told him all about mister May's that class, my
1:09:42
love for everything horror related and whatnot, and he suggested
1:09:45
that we try to find the place on our return
1:09:47
trip to New York. Initially I was bastard, What did
1:09:51
you say?
1:09:52
Speaker 1: I said, you dumb bastard?
1:09:53
Speaker 2: All right, hold on, bro, If you and I had
1:09:55
were in this exact scenario, would one of us not
1:09:59
be like, well, we have to go find it.
1:10:03
Speaker 1: God, I mean probably you and I'd be like, you
1:10:05
dumb bastard.
1:10:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I can't wait to see you in New Orleans.
1:10:14
I can't wait to torment you with this stuff anyway.
1:10:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be Yeah, should we go down this
1:10:19
creepy cave? I'm like, you, dumb bastard. This is what
1:10:22
I'm saying every time, you dumbas.
1:10:26
Speaker 2: I love when the fan art people draw us, it's
1:10:28
always you crying awful.
1:10:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, keep that feels pretty. That that feels very
1:10:38
that feels very real.
1:10:39
Speaker 2: It's very very real. Keep traumatizing, and please, I enjoy it.
1:10:44
It's all for you, it's for me. Initially I was reluctant,
1:10:47
simply because I didn't feel like aimlessly wandering through Nebraska
1:10:50
for days looking for some old farm building that was
1:10:52
probably demolished at this point. But a couple of days
1:10:55
before we left Colorado, I told Steve that it sounded
1:10:58
like fun. We weren't going to be able to do
1:11:01
another trip like this for a long time, so I
1:11:04
figured that we might as well make the best of it.
1:11:06
Somewhere in the back of my mind, I thought of
1:11:09
it as a little tribute to mister Mays, the guy that,
1:11:12
in retrospect, helped me realize that I wanted to be
1:11:15
a writer anyway.
1:11:17
Speaker 1: But I think that feels a little. I think that
1:11:18
feels pretty fair. I think that, like, I mean, if
1:11:21
you had a teacher come to you like that and
1:11:23
say the story right, and he is drunk, mind you yea,
1:11:26
would you believe that story to be true? Or would
1:11:28
you just kind of be like, you know, oh that
1:11:31
he's on hard times whatever, he's an alcoholic. I mean
1:11:33
a month later he died his liver failed, right, would
1:11:37
you just assume that it's just playing or what I mean, like,
1:11:39
what would you just make you know what?
1:11:41
Speaker 2: I'm what I would imagine if I if I heard
1:11:44
this story as a kid, and then years later he's
1:11:46
like crying like, no, it's it's real. My friend died.
1:11:49
I would think something actually happened. I would think maybe
1:11:52
there was a farmhouse, maybe his friend died there. I
1:11:54
don't know if i'd believe the supernatural elements, but maybe
1:11:57
it was something that killed his friend. Right, That's that's
1:12:02
what I would think. Something happened. There was an accident basically, So.
1:12:06
Speaker 1: If you thought that the accident did happen, I mean,
1:12:08
I guess I'm still bought into the idea of him
1:12:10
being like, yeah, his friend got hurt and it was
1:12:12
probably a bad deal. It's not like they're going to
1:12:14
go there and like, you know, disrespect the idea of
1:12:16
like his friend's passing or something. But even just be
1:12:19
there and be like, wow, this is what this is
1:12:20
where it happened, you know what, I mean, to pay
1:12:24
some kind of respect or something that to me that
1:12:26
tracks with the guy who has been obsessed with this
1:12:28
story for a long time. I kind of liked that
1:12:31
idea of him being like, oh, you know what, I'm
1:12:32
going to go pay respect to this guy, you know,
1:12:35
and actually be able to experience that place in person
1:12:37
and kind of like maybe following his footsteps without because
1:12:40
if it would be different. I think if he was like, yeah,
1:12:42
I believe in all the paranormal stuff and then you're
1:12:45
just like, well, why would you go? Then you know
1:12:46
what I mean?
1:12:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think so. Anyway, we left
1:12:52
Colorado and made the long, boring and barren drive to
1:12:54
Broken Bow, Nebraska or Hell on Earth Specier Mays had
1:12:58
to put it. I had to a motel intown and
1:13:01
hung around for a couple of days, venturing out one
1:13:03
hundred miles or so in any given direction each day.
1:13:05
After that, I've remembered mister mast on us that it
1:13:09
was somewhere outside of Broken Bow, but I don't think
1:13:12
he got any more specific than that. We tried asking
1:13:15
the towns folcus they had any information about the showers,
1:13:18
but we were usually met with blank stairs or eye
1:13:20
rolling when we told them what exactly this place was.
1:13:23
The Only person who seems to know anything about. It
1:13:25
was an older lady that worked at a gas station
1:13:27
on the outskirts of town. I don't recall her name,
1:13:30
but this woman was just one of those cheerful old people,
1:13:33
very helpful and generally interested in what anyone had to
1:13:36
say to her. Steven started talking to her at checkout,
1:13:40
and she asked about our license plate comment about the
1:13:43
fact that we're very far from home. We had nowhere
1:13:46
in particular to be so. Steve and I ended up
1:13:49
talking to this woman for about fifteen minutes, at which
1:13:52
point we brought up our hunt for the place known
1:13:54
as the Showers. Initially the name did it ring any
1:13:58
bells with the woman, which made sense seeing as mister
1:14:00
Mays had just given it the name after his experience there.
1:14:04
When I began to describe the details that I remembered
1:14:06
from his story, friendly old woman interrupted me, which alm
1:14:10
was not scornful or mean in any way, but she
1:14:13
became very tense and deliberate with her words. From that
1:14:16
point on.
1:14:17
Speaker 4: People don't deal with anything relating to that sort of
1:14:20
business around here anymore.
1:14:22
Speaker 1: That was all a long time ago.
1:14:25
Speaker 2: Following her statements, she attempted to be cheerful again. Excusing
1:14:29
herself to the restroom and wishing us the best on
1:14:31
our return trip to New York. Okay, if this is
1:14:36
a Barosca scenario, I didn't do it.
1:14:39
Speaker 1: Okay, No, But I'm wondering. I'm wondering if there's maybe
1:14:44
some sort of infamous family or something also like that.
1:14:46
She's just like, excuse me, I have to go take
1:14:48
a shit. She's like, have a good return trip.
1:14:52
Speaker 2: Like children tunnels.
1:14:56
Speaker 1: Yes, of course. I yeah.
1:15:01
Speaker 4: Now I've gotta go take my regular afternoon poop.
1:15:05
Speaker 1: The uh the the thing about her though, commenting like, oh,
1:15:09
you guys are really far away from home is very suspicious.
1:15:12
As soon as I as soon as you read that,
1:15:13
I was like, okay, uh, oh.
1:15:15
Speaker 2: It can be. It certainly can be. And I had
1:15:18
a bit of a tense there too. But at the
1:15:19
same time, I've said that to people like I've been
1:15:22
at a gas pump and seen someone with like a
1:15:24
Pennsylvania attack and be like, we'll bring you down this
1:15:26
way or whatever. It's just a Southern thing.
1:15:28
Speaker 1: I think, you creep.
1:15:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, a place to be from your home down Pennsylvania.
1:15:37
Speaker 1: What brings you down here? Now?
1:15:39
Speaker 4: If you wanted to go down to the bog. Feel
1:15:42
free to peek around there.
1:15:44
Speaker 1: Late at night. Friend, I'm just a regular citizen down here.
1:15:49
Speaker 2: Is that you have a creole accent?
1:15:52
Speaker 5: Now?
1:15:52
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? Down? Yah?
1:15:54
Speaker 4: Well, you're gonna go down to the swamp, and I
1:15:57
wouldn't say, old mister Weller's what's down there? But good
1:16:01
luck now, mister Pennsylvania man, big.
1:16:06
Speaker 2: City man, coming on down to this swamp.
1:16:09
Speaker 5: You seas, oh, big city boy, awfully fall from.
1:16:14
Speaker 2: Miss coming down to this year swamp. You're here, see
1:16:19
and thinking he can get by you.
1:16:21
Speaker 1: See.
1:16:21
Speaker 2: But if old mister Weller season, then mom.
1:16:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, say mister Weller's name three times down by the ball.
1:16:31
Speaker 2: Say his name by the bog. City boy.
1:16:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyways, you take Canda. You sound like exactly
1:16:42
average average Isaiah gas station moment, be like, you know,
1:16:49
I hate when people say like, oh, like when I
1:16:52
have like Missouri my Missouri plates and I'm like, I
1:16:54
had to drive like h l A when I first
1:16:56
graduated college and peopleould be like, oh, Missouri, well you're
1:17:00
very far out, and I'd be like, why the fuck
1:17:02
does it matter to you? Leave me alone? I don't
1:17:04
know who the fuck are you. Yeah, I'm goodation good
1:17:09
fucking observation. Dude, Hey, what do you want my social
1:17:12
Security number? Next you creep.
1:17:13
Speaker 2: There trying to talk?
1:17:15
Speaker 1: What's your blood type? That's your second question? You always
1:17:17
ask people, Oh, are you a universal donor?
1:17:22
Speaker 2: Mister Weller's locks them universal donu.
1:17:25
Speaker 5: Oh type whole negative, his favorite blood type. Miss mister
1:17:30
Weller is going to be please mister mister Willer is
1:17:35
going to be very excited, mister from Pennsylvania when mister Wellers.
1:17:40
Speaker 2: Gets his universal donor blood time from Pennsylvania. See, it's
1:17:44
a good season round here. You see.
1:17:47
Speaker 1: He runs a plasma He runs a plasma blood bank.
1:17:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get down there in the ball, they get
1:17:54
down to the swamp and it's just like, Oh, I'm
1:17:55
doctor Wellers. I run a local blood clinic.
1:17:57
Speaker 1: Heedy, how are you doing? How are you? He's like
1:18:01
very normal that you're in the You're like behind like
1:18:03
an old oak tree. What did I tell you? He
1:18:06
loves you? No, no, you know what I'm saying.
1:18:09
Speaker 2: Mister Weller's name, and he's coming for you.
1:18:13
Speaker 1: Now you're going to get a glass of orange juice
1:18:16
because you donated. Blow He that.
1:18:19
Speaker 6: Sows the wind reap into the whirlwind boy and you've
1:18:22
kicked against the pricks one two minute times for.
1:18:26
Speaker 1: Mister Weller's Mister Weller, Laura is gonna go crazy.
1:18:31
Speaker 2: Just got like a little like paw patrol bandage. You're like, no,
1:18:34
it wasn't that bad.
1:18:35
Speaker 1: It's like, mister be.
1:18:39
Speaker 2: Na, what are you doing.
1:18:46
Speaker 1: Riding Lord to do the to the universe. Mister Weller
1:18:49
will be Mister Weller is now our is now the
1:18:52
creep cast Poltergeist. He is the ghost, the.
1:18:56
Speaker 2: Blood bank guy.
1:18:57
Speaker 1: You just for you, I'll get legs. We'll see. I
1:19:01
feel like in the future, as time goes on, we
1:19:04
will I have a feeling we'll experience mister Weller again
1:19:07
soon enough.
1:19:08
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you, thank you for that. Dear Hannah.
1:19:12
Speaker 5: Uh, no problem, now, y'all what that we had a point,
1:19:17
oh the whole like talking to people.
1:19:19
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with something the other day because
1:19:20
someone else had Tennessee tags and he's like, oh, what
1:19:22
brings you down this way? And I'm like, ah, down here,
1:19:25
blah blah. We start talking about Tennessee and stuff like that.
1:19:27
It's just a not you can have nice one minute conversation.
1:19:32
Speaker 1: Don't fucking look at my car anymore.
1:19:34
Speaker 2: That is what I would say, are you Are you
1:19:36
from New York because you're acting like a Yankee?
1:19:39
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, maybe I am. I would be like,
1:19:41
you know what, why are you looking at my white
1:19:43
did my license plate? Was that peculiar to you? Dude?
1:19:47
Leave me alone. I have a feeling a lot of
1:19:49
people in chat are going to agree with me. I
1:19:50
think a lot of our commentaris are going to be like, yeah,
1:19:53
if a guy came with me, he's like, oh.
1:19:55
Speaker 2: That's because that's because.
1:19:58
Speaker 1: That's because okay, the one your wife sure does look pretty.
1:20:03
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no, you're describing it.
1:20:06
Speaker 2: You're describing stopped you in the accident right now.
1:20:10
Speaker 6: No, missus, I will tell missers.
1:20:17
Speaker 1: Miss back in town. Now.
1:20:20
Speaker 2: There is a difference between someone going, oh cool, it
1:20:23
brings you this way and someone going, your wife looking
1:20:26
real pretty in that truck.
1:20:28
Speaker 1: Boy, I don't. I don't see a delineation. I did
1:20:31
not see any delineation at all. What brings you to
1:20:33
town is the same to me as oh you have
1:20:37
a pretty set of hands. That's exact same thing to me.
1:20:43
Your head would look great on my man tole.
1:20:46
Speaker 2: You got soft hands, boy.
1:20:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, that's a very tight fitting pair of blue jeans.
1:20:53
Speaker 2: You have dear for this is a different kind of
1:20:55
cowboy we're talking about now.
1:20:58
Speaker 1: I guess so. Yes, in the story of I think
1:21:04
we're at uh Steve, and I returned.
1:21:07
Speaker 2: That that that author is like, good God.
1:21:12
Speaker 1: He's probably siding with me. And I imagine I want
1:21:14
people to vocalize to make sure that they know that
1:21:17
I don't don't talk to me whenever I'm at a
1:21:20
gas station where I don't want short that. You know,
1:21:22
what's nice for short talk whatever is if you know
1:21:26
you're passing by someone in a store, I mean you're
1:21:28
doing whatever, if you're outside, don't give me an observation
1:21:31
that you've been like looking at me from afar. That's
1:21:34
what I don't like. I think that's the I think
1:21:36
that's the delineation. You made an acute observation that like, yes,
1:21:39
I am not from here. Why do you need to
1:21:42
like vocalize that, do you know what I mean? That's
1:21:44
where I'm at. I thought, you whatever, you get kidnapped,
1:21:50
What if you get kidnapped, I'm gonna be like, yeah, no.
1:21:52
Ship probably because he's a Labrador and he's just like
1:21:56
I'm not from here. You're like, oh happy, go lucky.
1:21:59
Oh yeah, yeah, you know I'm not from here. Okay, No,
1:22:01
I don't know anybody. I don't person around here.
1:22:04
Speaker 6: Don't pick a late I cannot be both mister Weller's
1:22:08
is coming to collect his due.
1:22:09
Speaker 2: And also like, oh hi, you got room in the
1:22:13
back of your car. Sure, I'll breathe into this ron.
1:22:15
Speaker 1: It depends on where you're at. It depends on where
1:22:17
you're at. Okay, if I'm in your home today, I
1:22:19
think that. Yeah, you're trying to.
1:22:20
Speaker 2: Do as soon as we hang out together, I'm going
1:22:23
to publicly embarrass you as much as possible. I'm going
1:22:25
to I'm going to walk up to strangers and be like,
1:22:28
im my friend here wants to know about your day
1:22:30
or where you got that purse or something like that.
1:22:32
I'm gonna do that constantly.
1:22:34
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know, I'm gonna say I'm like,
1:22:35
that's really funny because my friend's been taking polaroid pictures
1:22:38
of year for about three probably about thirty minutes, and
1:22:41
he keeps talking about his basement, so I don't know
1:22:42
what that means. So feel free. Yeah, no, yeah, I
1:22:44
want to know stuff, But I just want you know,
1:22:46
this guy's been taking pictures of the all day. Check
1:22:47
his phone. Check his phone as well. I say, that's okay.
1:22:51
Speaker 2: If I'm like, oh, my friend here wants to talk
1:22:53
to you, You're like he's he's he's God, easy.
1:22:58
Speaker 1: Good God, God, let's just continue the story.
1:23:03
Speaker 2: What do you think you were implied with the polaroid
1:23:05
pictures that.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: You're gonna murder them?
1:23:08
Speaker 2: Oh well that's not as bad debatively, Okay, all right, anyway,
1:23:16
Steve and I returned to the car. Okay for those
1:23:18
because it's been twenty minutes of mister Weller, So I'm
1:23:21
just glad something took off the Jacoby story, like it's
1:23:26
been twenty minutes since we last discussed it. But they
1:23:28
went to the old lady who said they don't do
1:23:29
that anymore, and then they drive back.
1:23:31
Speaker 1: So, yeah, she went to take a shit. And now
1:23:34
they're being like because she was the only person so
1:23:36
far that I presume, in this town of Broken Bow
1:23:39
that has ever actually acknowledged the shower kind of thing
1:23:42
or even just like not even particularly just like oh
1:23:44
the title the showers, but like I'm guessing the cavernous
1:23:47
thing or like the children, because I'm assuming that they
1:23:50
probably told them like, oh, you know, it's a place
1:23:53
there's like kids or like. I assume that they probably
1:23:55
told her a bit of the story and she made
1:23:57
her uncomfortable.
1:23:59
Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably. I think they started to be like, oh,
1:24:03
you know, it's like a long tunnel and there's like
1:24:05
shower heads, and she knows whatever's going on.
1:24:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I assume that they would probably also say like, oh,
1:24:11
there's children with nightgowns like whatever. She probably giving her
1:24:15
broad details and there was, but she probably yeah, I mean,
1:24:19
her even giving a reaction to that is crazy. Yeah.
1:24:23
Speaker 2: Steve and I returned to the car without a word.
1:24:25
Both of us were thinking about what the lady had said. Again,
1:24:28
she didn't seem to be angry at all. She just
1:24:30
didn't want to hear another word about it. We were
1:24:32
driving back to the hotel before Steve said something.
1:24:37
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to live in a place
1:24:39
associated with an urban legend or something like that, I
1:24:42
would totally mess with anyone who asked about it. I mean,
1:24:47
eventually you'd get tired of people asking about it, so
1:24:50
you'd try to scare them to get them to shut up,
1:24:53
wouldn't you. Oh yeah, Steve's going, Steve, Steve's having a
1:24:57
tough time. That fucked with him? Yeah for sure.
1:24:59
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agreed with Steve and kept driving. But the
1:25:02
whole experience wasn't sitting right with me. If this was
1:25:06
some sort of well known legend in the area, why
1:25:08
did no one else in the town seem to know
1:25:10
anything about it? But I managed to shrug it off.
1:25:13
Mind you, neither of us were scared of finding the showers.
1:25:17
This little excursion on our road trip was more like
1:25:19
a scavenger hunt, a cap off to an overall relaxing vacation.
1:25:24
Steve and I were basically like tourists hunting for the
1:25:27
site of which a famous movie was filmed, or something
1:25:30
like that. We went into the whole situation with little
1:25:34
to no expectations and a fleeting hope that we would
1:25:37
be able to find this place. We spent another day
1:25:40
in Broken Bow before we took our next trip out
1:25:42
to try to find the showers. Nebraska isn't as terrible
1:25:46
of a place as people make it out to be,
1:25:48
but it really isn't all that exciting. We found a
1:25:51
bar and spent some time there, and that was just
1:25:54
about the extent of our activity on our quote day off.
1:25:58
When we did get back on the road, we decided
1:26:00
that we would attempt to stay off of main roads
1:26:02
for as much of the day as we could. I
1:26:05
knew that there was no way that this place was
1:26:06
going to be off of the highway, and I remember
1:26:09
some detail about a dirt road and mister May's story,
1:26:11
so we went looking for those. This was a fairly
1:26:14
feudal effort. Most of Nebraska is dirt roads. It was
1:26:18
seven in the evening when we came upon a small
1:26:21
but thick forest. I used the term lightly for Nebraska.
1:26:25
This place was like an oasis. The trees were full
1:26:28
and thick, shrouding most of its insides and darkness. The
1:26:32
sun was setting, and even though we had run into
1:26:34
a few of those random crops of trees, we agreed
1:26:37
that this one showed more promise than any of the others.
1:26:40
There wasn't really a road, but there looked to be
1:26:42
a path where a dirt road might have been at
1:26:45
some point, so we drove along. That if the car
1:26:48
was able to handle the rocky mountains, a dirt path
1:26:51
in Nebraska wouldn't give us no trouble. We moved slowly
1:26:55
and carefully along this trail, making sure to clear any
1:26:58
fallen trees in the road or rock that would render
1:27:00
the car useless. When the sun finished setting, it was
1:27:03
pretty dark in this place during the day, but when
1:27:06
night came it was something else entirely. I had an
1:27:09
inkling at this point that we had found the right place,
1:27:12
but I didn't want a jinxent, so we continued onward.
1:27:16
I didn't realize it at the time, the little bits
1:27:18
of light that managed to penetrate the canopy and this
1:27:21
maniature forest actually did make it look as if the
1:27:24
tree branches were trying to grab the car. It's like
1:27:26
mister Mason mentioned it in the story. I'm still convinced
1:27:30
that he made up the part about the animal eyed.
1:27:31
So the most aggressive creature we saw in the woods
1:27:34
was a dead rabbit on the side of the trail.
1:27:36
I didn't have any obvious signs of death. It just
1:27:38
looked like it had simply lay down and never bothered
1:27:41
to get up. Whichrove out of the darkness for quite
1:27:44
a while before we found a clearing. We had to
1:27:47
move several smaller clusters of branches out of the way before,
1:27:50
but right in front of our exit was a giant
1:27:53
dead on serve a tree. There was no way we
1:27:57
were moving this one, so we got out and turned
1:27:59
on the bride headlight lights and the hopes that it
1:28:00
would illuminate the area in.
1:28:01
Speaker 1: Front of us.
1:28:03
Speaker 2: There was a feeling of excitement exed strangely with fear
1:28:05
when I saw what lay fifty feet beyond the clearing. There,
1:28:10
lit partially by the headlights from the car and a
1:28:12
little bit of light from the crescent moon, so it
1:28:14
appeared to be an old barn house. This wasn't a
1:28:18
typical farmhouse. It was larger than the barns that I
1:28:22
had seen in films and didn't have any sort of crest.
1:28:25
It basically looked like a small warehouse. I wasn't entirely
1:28:29
sure at this point if this was the place we
1:28:31
were looking for, but this was definitely the closest.
1:28:34
Speaker 1: We had come.
1:28:35
Speaker 2: I moved through the brush until I was roughly twenty
1:28:38
feet from the entrance, at which point all of the
1:28:41
growth seemed to stop. I don't know if the owners
1:28:44
had done something in the soil, but the whole structure
1:28:47
had a border around it that was clear of any
1:28:50
sort of plant life. I approached the entrance to the building,
1:28:54
large sliding doors. Steve came up behind me with two
1:28:57
flashlights in hand.
1:29:00
Speaker 1: So, were you just gonna run off into the place
1:29:01
in the dark?
1:29:02
Speaker 2: I gave a half hearted chuckle and grabbed one of
1:29:04
the lights from his hand. Mine was a little but
1:29:07
pretty bright flashlight. It was the kind that hikers would
1:29:10
most likely fasten into their backpacks, just in case they
1:29:12
were stranded at night.
1:29:14
Speaker 1: It worked well enough.
1:29:16
Speaker 2: I grabbed the metal door with both hands, holding the
1:29:18
flashlight with my mouth, and gave it a tug. It
1:29:21
moved slightly, creaked a little bit, but there was no
1:29:23
way I was doing this by myself. Steve came up
1:29:27
from behind, set his flashot on the ground, grabbed the door,
1:29:30
and said.
1:29:31
Speaker 1: One, two, three.
1:29:34
Speaker 2: We pulled at the door with all that we could muster.
1:29:36
Once we had managed to move it a couple of inches,
1:29:38
it must have latched back onto its tracks, because it
1:29:41
slid very easily, stopping hard with the loud, tangling thud.
1:29:45
When it was completely open, Steve picked up his flashlight
1:29:48
and walked behind me. I'd already moved inside. The inside
1:29:52
of the structure was exceptionally bare, almost troublingly, so I
1:29:56
wasn't entirely sure how far we were from the nearest
1:29:58
home or small town. But there wasn't even the slightest
1:30:02
bit of evidence that anyone had been in this building
1:30:04
for years. There were no broken beer bottles or empty
1:30:08
bags of chips. There weren't even any animal droppings or
1:30:10
eager plants that managed to grow here. The room was expansive,
1:30:15
larger than your average farm, but not the warehouse sized
1:30:18
monstrosity that I believe mister Mays had described in his story.
1:30:22
I was sure that it was simply a holding area
1:30:25
for farming equipment or something similar. At some point, disappointed,
1:30:29
I wandered near the entrance while Steve ventured into the
1:30:32
expanse of darkness. So I was running over the details
1:30:35
of the story in my mind. Something struck me, like
1:30:37
a sack of bricks in mister May's story, there was
1:30:41
a silo near the barn. I ran outside, my eyes
1:30:44
adjusting easily because of the very least it was brighter outside.
1:30:48
I looked in all directions, running around the perimeter of
1:30:51
the building. Surely, if there was ever a silo near
1:30:53
this place, there'd be some evidence of it somewhere. But
1:30:57
despite my hopes, there's nothing but a cluster of thick
1:31:00
bushes on one side, brush and dirt everywhere, and the
1:31:03
forest that we had come from. I walked back into
1:31:06
the building, frustrated and tired. Steve was still excited, eagerly
1:31:10
running around the inside of the building.
1:31:13
Speaker 1: Even I could just find a shower hit or a pipe,
1:31:15
then we know it was true. But just keep looking
1:31:19
with me.
1:31:20
Speaker 2: I didn't want to ruin his excitement. I told Steve
1:31:22
the story several times, but obviously he didn't realize that
1:31:26
this just wasn't the place. The building was weird, yes,
1:31:29
it was out of place and oddly pristine, but it
1:31:32
wasn't the location of the showers. I let him explore
1:31:35
for a little bit before I called him over.
1:31:38
Speaker 1: This is probably as close as we were going to get, man,
1:31:41
But this isn't it. Remember the silo.
1:31:44
Speaker 2: His face went from excitement to disappointment in an instant,
1:31:47
much like a young child who didn't get the presence
1:31:49
he wanted on his birthday. I patted him on the shoulder.
1:31:53
Speaker 1: This is still pretty cool, though, I mean, we could
1:31:55
still tell people that we founded.
1:31:57
Speaker 2: I was reverting back to my old habits quickly, Steve laughed.
1:32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I guess we could. It is definitely creepy enough.
1:32:07
We should get some pictures as proof, you know.
1:32:09
Speaker 2: I agreed with him.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go grab the camera really quick.
1:32:12
Speaker 2: He said, as he bolted out of the entrance of
1:32:14
the building. I was left alone in the building. It
1:32:18
was very quiet when I was alone in there. I
1:32:20
could hear the faint sound of Steve running through the
1:32:22
brush and to the car. Once he was far enough away,
1:32:26
everything was quiet. I remember not even hearing the wind
1:32:29
or the chirping or crickets. As I walked deeper into
1:32:31
the dark, flashlight in hand, I was convinced that there
1:32:35
had to be something. As I approached the far corner
1:32:38
of the room, sound of my feet scratching against the
1:32:40
dirt was interrupted by a soft hall ove thud. I stopped,
1:32:45
trying to figure out what it was, put my foot
1:32:48
down hard against the ground, and heard it again. I
1:32:51
stopped one more time, realizing that the floor that I
1:32:54
was standing on was covering something hollow. I walked to
1:32:58
the wall of the room, looking carefully at the floor
1:33:01
to try to spot any holes or gaps. As far
1:33:04
as I had known, it was solid ground that this
1:33:06
saying set a top, so I was convinced that I
1:33:09
had found a hatch or a basement or something. Ard
1:33:12
Steve coming back through the brush as I.
1:33:14
Speaker 1: Shouted, Steve, come over here, it's hot.
1:33:18
Speaker 2: As I went to say the word hollow, I hopped
1:33:20
a little bit, hoping to recreate the sound so that
1:33:23
he could be able to hear it. Upon entering the door.
1:33:26
Second that my feet made contact with the floor, I
1:33:28
felt it give out beneath me. The memory of the
1:33:32
falls of us, but I do recall hearing wood splinter.
1:33:35
I remember seeing the light from Steve's flash light falling
1:33:38
away into complete darkness. It wasn't a long fall, but
1:33:42
I must have fallen in a terrible position, because I
1:33:44
knowed that I lost consciousness for several seconds at the least.
1:33:49
When I woke up, I was staring at a bright
1:33:51
light for an instant. I had thoughts about approaching the
1:33:54
fabled light at the end of the tunnel. I was
1:33:56
angry at myself.
1:33:59
Speaker 1: You died in a brass cot. Jack, Wow, you do
1:34:02
know how to fuck up my self.
1:34:04
Speaker 2: Depreciation in the afterlife was interrupted above what sounded like
1:34:07
Steve's voice.
1:34:09
Speaker 1: Jesus, Jack, Jack, can you hear me? Dude, wake up,
1:34:13
please wake up.
1:34:15
Speaker 2: I managed to lift my head up off the floor
1:34:17
just enough for him to celebrate. The pain in my
1:34:19
head was immense, but it was outweighed by the pain
1:34:22
shooting through my knee. I knew I had a concussion,
1:34:25
but the pain of my knee was just so much
1:34:27
more pressing. Looked around until I found my tiny flashlight
1:34:31
set up and reassured Steve.
1:34:34
Speaker 1: I'm okay, it just hurt my knee. I butt my
1:34:37
head too, really hard. Thank fuck man, I thought you
1:34:42
were dead. Imagine that though dying can fucking Nebraska. It'd
1:34:47
be awful.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: His words made me laugh a little bit, but I
1:34:50
stopped myself. The slightest shaking hurt my head and made
1:34:53
me incredibly dizzy.
1:34:55
Speaker 1: I guess a rope? What should I go? Get a
1:35:00
rope to get you out of here? Or do you
1:35:02
see a ladder?
1:35:03
Speaker 2: I looked around the walls that set in front of me.
1:35:06
There were smooth cement. There was no way that I
1:35:09
was climbing out of here.
1:35:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, get the rope bag. It's buried under all of
1:35:15
our stuff. I think it might be in my red
1:35:17
climbing bag, but I'm not sure.
1:35:19
Speaker 2: Steve nodded, telling me to hang in there and that
1:35:21
he would be back in a little bit, and then
1:35:23
he ran off. The silence that followed was uncomfortable. After
1:35:27
the sound of Stee's feet scraping the floor above me
1:35:29
faded away, I was only able to hear that buzzing
1:35:32
that occurs, and the total silence intertwined with the pulsing
1:35:35
in my head. I pushed myself over to the nearest
1:35:38
cement wall and braced myself against it, resting and breathing
1:35:41
deep in an attempt to call myself. The cement was
1:35:44
unnaturally cold against my back. It was summer, so I
1:35:47
only had a T shirt on, but it felt like
1:35:49
ice even through that. Again, this observation was primarily made
1:35:53
after the fact. The moment just felt good to lean
1:35:56
against something. I sat there waiting for Steve, even this
1:36:00
underground basement, and I began to feel uneasy. I felt
1:36:03
like an idiot for falling down here, felt pain for
1:36:06
my injuries as well. This all seemed to fade into
1:36:09
one emotion in an instant. When I heard what I
1:36:12
could only identify as breathing somewhere to my left, I
1:36:17
convinced myself that it was my injured mind playing tricks
1:36:19
on me for a few moments, until my mind decided
1:36:22
to rapidly replay mister May's story. When I had first
1:36:26
heard it in the classroom years before, I was more
1:36:29
impressed than I was scared. But now, sitting in the
1:36:32
dark basement in the middle of Nebraska, felt something that
1:36:35
I hadn't felt in a long time. It couldn't even
1:36:38
be summed up in the word fear. As I sat there,
1:36:42
I felt all encompassing dread. I pointed my flashlight to
1:36:47
the left, the direction for which I thought I heard
1:36:49
the sound. The light didn't reach the other wall it
1:36:52
was too far away, but I was comforted to see
1:36:55
absolutely nothing there. I breathed deeply for a couple more
1:36:59
seconds before I heard another noise in the darkness. Very
1:37:02
quick and I cannot be sure that it wasn't my
1:37:04
own body moving around without my noticing, But I thought
1:37:08
that I had heard scrapings, a scraping sound not ten
1:37:11
feet in front of me. It sounded like the noise
1:37:13
your feet make when you were walking across a dirt
1:37:15
covered floor. Before I could react, I heard the breathing
1:37:19
on my left again, closer. This time it was no
1:37:22
way this was real. I hadn't seen so much as
1:37:25
a spider web in this building, and now it was
1:37:27
convincing myself that something next to me was breathing. I
1:37:31
was angry at myself for getting so worked up. I
1:37:33
told myself that the human brain is constantly hallucinating. I
1:37:37
told myself that while in silence or darkness, the brain
1:37:39
will make sounds to fill the gaps or make you
1:37:43
think you see things that aren't there. I channeled my
1:37:46
inner skeptic in order to call myself. It worked. It
1:37:49
worked until I saw a flash of something in front
1:37:52
of me. I can't be entirely sure what it was,
1:37:54
but I heard the accompanying sounds feet scraping against the floor,
1:37:58
and I began to swell with I saw that the
1:38:02
best course of action at this point was to turn
1:38:04
off my flashlight, assuming that if they couldn't see me,
1:38:08
couldn't get to me whatever they might be. I turned
1:38:13
off my flashlight and was left in complete and total darkness.
1:38:16
The bulb of the flashlight faded as it cooled, and
1:38:19
I put it into my pocket, simultaneously pushing back against
1:38:22
the cold cement wall in an attempt to stand I
1:38:26
managed to get up to my feet well foot, and
1:38:29
found that I couldn't stand to put any pressure on
1:38:31
the injured knee. I leant to the corner, humming to myself,
1:38:35
trying to break the deafening silence. I called for Steve
1:38:39
as loud as I can manage, which heard no response.
1:38:42
He's probably in the back of the car, still hunting
1:38:44
for the rope. There had to be a ladder something somewhere.
1:38:49
I continued to hum, and my heartbeat, which had been
1:38:52
beating almost out of my chest, slowed to a manageable rate.
1:38:56
I moved along the cement wall, keeping my whole body
1:38:59
against it and the weight off of my injured knee.
1:39:02
I had traveled what I guessed to be about ten
1:39:04
feet when my head made contact with something in front
1:39:07
of me. I tumbled to the ground. I could cushion
1:39:10
must have amplified the pain because it was blinding. I
1:39:14
reached both hands to my forehead when I felt something
1:39:16
warm and wet with my fingers. I searched for a
1:39:20
cut anywhere on my forehead, but couldn't find one. I
1:39:23
just really searched for my flashlight. As I set up
1:39:25
and tried to get back against the wall, I grabbed
1:39:29
the light in my right hand, bracing against the wall
1:39:31
with the other, I turned it on and pointed it
1:39:34
onto the darkness where I was just lying. The floor
1:39:36
was wet, the dirt had muddled the color of whatever
1:39:40
the liquid was. I tried to get my eyes to
1:39:43
focus on the puddle, tried to convince myself that it
1:39:45
was my blood when I saw another drop fall into
1:39:48
the puddle. Words like the ability to describe the way
1:39:52
I felt when I heard the drip noise again and
1:39:55
saw yet another tiny ball of liquid fall into the puddle.
1:40:00
I think I knew even then exactly what the source was.
1:40:04
I was endlessly trying to convince myself that I was wrong.
1:40:09
I listened the flashlight up and pointed it at the
1:40:11
source of the liquid. What stared back at me was
1:40:14
a pipe that protruded at least a foot out from
1:40:17
the cement wall. The metal was rested and cracked a
1:40:21
little bit so the liquid began.
1:40:23
Speaker 1: To seep from them.
1:40:24
Speaker 2: At the end of the pipe was a simple shower
1:40:27
head aim down towards the ground.
1:40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome.
1:40:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty good. You know that feeling when
1:40:35
your stomach drops. In this case, I think mine literally did,
1:40:39
because that was the story.
1:40:43
Speaker 1: What. Oh no, I'm just listening.
1:40:44
Speaker 2: Oh oh sorry, I thought you thought I asked you
1:40:47
know when your stomach drops, like like I personally was
1:40:51
asking you. I wasn't part of the story.
1:40:54
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I definitely do. Yeah, it's I know
1:40:56
that feeling. It's like, oh my god. Yeah. Sorry, I'm
1:41:03
just now realizing.
1:41:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's too good. Because I kept reading the
1:41:07
words on screen and.
1:41:08
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, oh yeah, boy kept I was like
1:41:11
sitting there and I was like, yeah, my stomach did drop.
1:41:16
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, Isaiah, A good point. I never thought of that.
1:41:22
Speaker 1: What do you think the liquid is? Do you think
1:41:24
it's just blood?
1:41:25
Speaker 2: No? Because he says he wanted to convince himself it
1:41:28
was blood.
1:41:29
Speaker 1: I thought you said he wanted to convince himself that
1:41:31
it was his blood. That's true. It could be his.
1:41:34
Speaker 2: It could be some other blood. I don't know yet. Honestly,
1:41:37
you have no clue. Could just be rusted water from
1:41:40
whatever was done down here.
1:41:42
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know.
1:41:43
Speaker 2: We'll see. You know that feeling when your stomach drops.
1:41:46
In this case, I think mine literally did because I
1:41:49
vomited immediately. It got all over my shoe but that
1:41:53
wasn't the least bit important at the time. I ignored
1:41:56
the pain in my knee and shuffled along the wall
1:41:58
as fast as I possibly could. Or noises, but I
1:42:01
can't be sure if it was just the sounds of
1:42:04
my own movement or something around me. I managed to
1:42:07
duck under the next shower head. This one was higher
1:42:10
up on the wall and seemed to be leaking the
1:42:12
same liquid that the other one was. I felt like
1:42:16
I was moving along something infinite. Every now and then
1:42:19
I would have to duck or move under another metal bar,
1:42:22
another shower head. They began to pour more profusely. Liquid
1:42:27
was too thick to come out easily. The room began
1:42:31
to smell. I remembered immediately the way that mister May's
1:42:34
had described it. I grabbed my shirt and put it
1:42:37
over my nose, trucking onward, but it didn't stop to
1:42:41
smell for an instant. Smelled like Vomit smelled like shit,
1:42:45
It smelled like burnt hair, It smelled like rot. I
1:42:49
was still moving against the wall when I fell into
1:42:52
some sort of outlet. I hit the dirt ground hard,
1:42:56
adrenaline coursing through my veins. The pain still managed to
1:42:59
break through the My flashlight was still in my hand.
1:43:02
I aimed it and examined my surroundings. Setting in front
1:43:05
of me was a doorway. There was a door there,
1:43:08
though it looked aged now, it had a nice little
1:43:11
design on it, a door knob and a knocker that
1:43:14
looked like a snarling demon. Red paint was peeling from it,
1:43:18
flaking off and falling to the ground in front of me.
1:43:21
I clumsily rose and busted through the door, narrowly missing
1:43:24
a piece of hanging sheet metal in front of me
1:43:27
who I was crawling now. There was no way that
1:43:30
I could run. The walls and ceiling were lined with metal,
1:43:34
the kind that you would see on the roof of
1:43:36
a farm. Large pieces of wood seemed to brace the sheets,
1:43:40
holding this makeshift tunnel together. I couldn't risk sliding against that,
1:43:45
I possibly cutting myself on the metal or hitting the
1:43:48
wood and causing a caban. So I crawled. This is interesting.
1:43:52
He's going the opposite direction that mister May's did.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, just going in opposite direction. I'm wondering, Well, I'll
1:43:59
just I haven't thought it for afterwards, but yeah, I'd
1:44:02
keep going.
1:44:03
Speaker 2: I pulled myself for what felt like miles, running into
1:44:06
walls every now and then because the path seemed to
1:44:08
curve like a snake. I had no idea where I
1:44:11
was in relation to the hole that I had fallen through.
1:44:14
But I told myself that there was an exit at
1:44:16
the end of this, and had I been crawling, I
1:44:19
would have surely hurt myself far worse. There were parts
1:44:22
of the tunnel in which the ceiling dipped down to
1:44:25
maybe three feet above the ground and hadn't caved in
1:44:28
because the ceiling still lined it. Someone had built it
1:44:31
like this. This again, is in hindsight. I ain't care
1:44:36
at the time. I kept telling myself there's nothing behind me,
1:44:38
but I swore that I heard feet scraping only a
1:44:40
few inches behind my own. My genies would brush against
1:44:44
my legs every now and then, making it feel like
1:44:46
someone was touching me. Even now, I still can't completely
1:44:50
convince myself that someone wasn't. I crawled and crawled until
1:44:53
I reached an up slope with joy. I looked ahead
1:44:56
of me. There was a cellar door. The door was
1:44:59
made of wood. I knew this because I could see
1:45:02
light through them. I couldn't be sure, but I thought
1:45:05
it might have been the light from the car's headlights,
1:45:08
sois all that.
1:45:10
Speaker 1: I was just so.
1:45:11
Speaker 2: Immensely happy to find an exit. I crawled the way
1:45:15
to the door and threw my shoulder into it. It
1:45:17
budged but didn't open. I began to scream, but my
1:45:21
throat seared with pain. The most I can manage was
1:45:24
a harsh, crying noise. Sounded like a dying animal. Huh what,
1:45:31
I'm just thinking, like it sounded like a dying animal.
1:45:34
That's the That's a weird way to phrase it, because
1:45:38
earlier in the story, mister May's heard a dying animal
1:45:41
when the door was opened to the showers.
1:45:45
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, Like that's It's it.
1:45:47
Speaker 2: Seems like a specific choice, right it does.
1:45:50
Speaker 1: I mean like it certainly does either. So are you
1:45:54
trying to insinuate that like a time parallel thing that.
1:45:57
Speaker 2: Maybe or like maybe that's just maybe me that noise
1:46:01
has happened.
1:46:02
Speaker 1: So I'm reading it that there are other people down
1:46:05
here screaming, and it's like for some reason. What I
1:46:08
don't know is like he's screaming, and if he's screamings,
1:46:11
like but my throat steered with pain, if he's screaming
1:46:15
so much or being down there causes him to have
1:46:19
some kind I don't know, I'm kind of curious to
1:46:20
kind of keep reading and see. Yeah.
1:46:22
Speaker 2: So anyway, just the phrasing of that interested me.
1:46:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is very almost serendipitous.
1:46:29
Speaker 2: It could could be nothing, could be coincidence, but yeah,
1:46:31
just it just caught me for a second. I collapse
1:46:34
in exhaustion and pain, my eyes staring up at the
1:46:37
slits of light before me. I was so close to
1:46:39
being out of here I could taste. It was in
1:46:42
that moment of silent defeat that I heard a noise
1:46:44
that was, without question, something moving in the tunnel. It
1:46:49
sounded like something was being dragged across the floor. It
1:46:52
would move, pause for a second, and then move again.
1:46:56
I had nothing left in my stomach to throw up,
1:46:58
but I began to gag. I gathered myself slightly and
1:47:01
tried to steady my hand enough to focus the fleshlight
1:47:04
into the tunnel. That's also an interesting point before we
1:47:07
get into like the reveal. Have you ever been so
1:47:10
scared you throw up?
1:47:12
Speaker 1: No?
1:47:13
Speaker 2: I don't think I have.
1:47:16
Speaker 1: I haven't. I'm almost I'm wondering if he's if it's
1:47:19
a matter or it's a mixture of tense emotions. And
1:47:23
also I'm guessing that the smell is just absolutely revolting.
1:47:25
I mean it's decaying bodies, which is horrible, horrible, I
1:47:29
mean like spoiled rotten meat or something. Yeah, because now,
1:47:33
whenever I heard the showerhead thing, it almost made me
1:47:36
think of like like a meat grinder, how meat pours
1:47:39
out of those holes like that.
1:47:41
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like a whole body shoved through there, right.
1:47:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I was like, it's just like
1:47:48
grease blood like I mean, just basically liquified, like a
1:47:53
liquefied body.
1:47:54
Speaker 2: Go liquefied people, or like some kind of animal, right
1:47:58
being shoved through Yeah, yeah, but rotted old like it's
1:48:02
like the become seepy, you know, almost like a corpse
1:48:06
ran through that.
1:48:08
Speaker 1: Right.
1:48:09
Speaker 2: What I saw I can still not rationalize. I know
1:48:14
what I saw, but I cannot convince myself that it
1:48:16
was actually there. I can't stop telling myself that I
1:48:19
was hallucinating. I saw a child in a dirty sleeping gown.
1:48:24
The gown was stained with something dark and brown, occasional
1:48:27
splashes of a deep red. The child was extremely frail,
1:48:31
like the pictures that people might see of a Holocaust victim.
1:48:35
I could only make out one eye, brightly reflecting the
1:48:39
light of my flashlight, between huge tufts of long, dirty hair.
1:48:44
It reached down beyond the fingertips of the child, which
1:48:47
were caked with dirt. The boy or girl, I'm not
1:48:51
entirely sure, which moved towards me with difficulty. It wasn't
1:48:55
breathing hard, but it seemed that every movement of every
1:48:59
muscle took every ounce of strength the child had. The
1:49:02
thing that froze me, though, was the eye. It was
1:49:06
only visible because it was reflecting my flashlight, but even
1:49:10
in that glint I could feel anger, or deep hatred,
1:49:14
or something like that. This is the point in which
1:49:17
the English language really lacks the right words to explain
1:49:20
the situation. I could tell that the child meant me harm,
1:49:25
whether it was a hallucination or not. The thing was
1:49:28
getting closer. I started to cry. I was getting closer
1:49:32
and closer. I heard a voice from behind me. Hey, Jack,
1:49:38
whispered the voice. It was Steve, I was certain. I
1:49:44
tried to talk back, fully, intending to.
1:49:46
Speaker 1: Say open this up and get me right out of here,
1:49:49
right now.
1:49:50
Speaker 2: However, given my current state, I am sure. It just
1:49:52
sounded like garbled nonsense. I clawed the door, pushing against
1:49:56
it with everything that I had, and finally breaking eye
1:49:58
contact with the child. As I did this, the flashlight
1:50:01
rolled down the slope, coming to rest somewhere near the
1:50:03
child's feet. What do you see, the voice asked, what
1:50:10
are you talking about? I closed my eyes. I remember
1:50:13
hearing a reply along the lines.
1:50:15
Speaker 1: Of just look at it, tell me what you see.
1:50:19
Speaker 2: My own screams of frustration drowned it out. I was
1:50:23
mumbling like a maniac when the voice told me.
1:50:25
Speaker 1: Calmly, rest for a second. I'll get it.
1:50:29
Speaker 2: The statement took a second to settle in, at which
1:50:31
point I closed my eyes tight.
1:50:34
Speaker 1: Steve, just do it, please, please just get it open.
1:50:38
Please just get me out of here, Steve, God, damn it.
1:50:43
Open the fucking wooden door.
1:50:45
Speaker 2: Opened my eyes for a split second to see nothing
1:50:47
but black hair dangling in front of my face, a
1:50:50
small ron of light hidden in the mess of tangles.
1:50:53
I slammed my eyes shut and screamed with every ounce
1:50:56
of energy.
1:50:57
Speaker 1: I had open. The fucking door.
1:51:00
Speaker 2: Behind me gave way, and I fell onto the dark,
1:51:03
taking in a breath of fresh air. My eyes were
1:51:05
still closed, but the first thing that I did scrambled
1:51:08
to find the cylind door and close it Onside. Done that,
1:51:11
I took a deep breath and opened my eyes. I
1:51:15
saw the barn in front of me, illuminated by the
1:51:17
headlights of the car. My head was pulsing with pain.
1:51:20
I was covered in dirt and liquids that I didn't
1:51:23
even care to know. The origin of My knee was
1:51:25
at the very least dislocated. But despite all of that,
1:51:29
I was out of the tunnel. I took a deep breath,
1:51:32
buried my head in my hands, and said.
1:51:35
Speaker 1: Steve, why didn't you just open the fucking door.
1:51:39
Speaker 2: I waited for a response, but none came.
1:51:43
Speaker 1: Steve, Seriously, I was fucking clawing and screaming for my life.
1:51:49
Speaker 2: I said, as I looked behind me. My stomach must
1:51:51
have been on the verge falling out of me at
1:51:53
this point, because it shifted again. The only thing behind
1:51:57
me was the large mass of bushes I had seen
1:52:00
while examining the perimeter of the building.
1:52:04
Speaker 1: I was angry, Steve, this is not the fucking time
1:52:09
come out of the fucking bushes, man.
1:52:11
Speaker 2: I was getting ready to stand up when I heard
1:52:13
a yell from the front of the building. A flashlight
1:52:16
bobbed up and down in the semi darkness. Steve was
1:52:18
running into the open door of the structure, yelling my
1:52:21
name and telling me not to worry. Must have lost
1:52:24
consciousness at that point. When I woke up, Steve was
1:52:27
standing over me, desperately trying to wake me up. His
1:52:30
words were almost incoherent, at least in my ears. He
1:52:34
helped me to my feet and began to walk me
1:52:36
to the car. As we walked away, saw my flashlight
1:52:39
sitting just outside the cellar door. The light was fading.
1:52:44
Steve brought me back to the car and then drove
1:52:46
me to the nearest hospital. I fell asleep, but he
1:52:49
told me that he drove around for an hour before
1:52:51
he found a main road. I don't think I ever
1:52:54
told him the whole story. I believe he thinks that
1:52:56
I was just injured from the fall.
1:52:58
Speaker 1: He never really asked.
1:52:59
Speaker 2: About it, and we didn't stay in contact for much longer.
1:53:03
It's not like we deliberately parted ways. We just sort
1:53:06
of stopped hanging out after the trip and went our
1:53:08
separate ways. I've never been able to fully understand what
1:53:12
happened that night. There are many things that I can't
1:53:14
explain away as being hallucinations. There are still many things
1:53:19
that don't make sense. The shower heads were there and
1:53:23
they were leaking something. The door was real, the tunnel
1:53:27
was real. Most everything else can be semi rationalized if
1:53:30
I can convince myself that I had a very bad concussion,
1:53:34
a very very bad concussion. But the one thing that
1:53:37
I couldn't have imagined.
1:53:39
Speaker 1: Was that cell.
1:53:41
Speaker 2: The door was locked and then it suddenly wasn't. I'm
1:53:46
still as skeptical as I've ever been, but I believe
1:53:48
in what happened to me at the showers. I'm not
1:53:51
a hermit or a social recluse because of this. I
1:53:54
drink a lot, but I'm still functional. But I will
1:53:58
never return to Nebraska. No one will ever be able
1:54:01
to convince me otherwise. I don't watch horror movies either.
1:54:05
There's absolutely nothing entertaining, but being so desperately scared.
1:54:10
Speaker 1: That's it. Really.
1:54:11
Speaker 2: There's no typical ending for my story. I was changed
1:54:15
by my experience, yeah, but there's no way to change
1:54:19
anything about it or fight back against it. I can't
1:54:22
even convince myself that I wasn't just seeing things believe me.
1:54:27
I've been trying for years. Prior to this, there was
1:54:30
really no way to find any information on the Showers.
1:54:33
The legend didn't extend outside of the classroom of mister May's.
1:54:37
No one told stories like this to keep children away
1:54:39
from a certain place or to scare them. It just
1:54:42
wasn't known. I guess that's really the point of this
1:54:46
whole story. I want people to know firsthand what this
1:54:50
place is like. Maybe it is a drugs rationale or
1:54:54
the kid inside me wanting to spread these kinds of stories. Again,
1:54:58
I don't know, I don't care. But it's out there
1:55:01
now for people to mold and warp to their knees.
1:55:06
Most importantly, it's finally out of my head. It's getting
1:55:10
late and I'm getting another drink, cheers.
1:55:15
Speaker 1: And that is the end of the Showers. You know,
1:55:20
it's really interesting for a story that's so I mean,
1:55:22
twelve years that's insane long time ago, right, It seems
1:55:27
like such a gripping tale.
1:55:32
Speaker 2: You know.
1:55:32
Speaker 1: At the beginning of this story, I talked about how
1:55:35
the older stories really don't they don't fuck with a
1:55:38
lot of the fat, right, a lot of like really
1:55:41
getting like really preambling and doing these things, and it
1:55:44
seems like I like that towards the end. At the
1:55:47
beginning what it just kind of throws us in. But
1:55:49
being in those being in the tunnels down there, I
1:55:52
wanted to just like be down there a lot longer
1:55:55
to experience more of that. We have these creepy children,
1:55:58
and we don't really know where it goes, and it
1:55:59
leaves all these kind of ambiguous things up in the air,
1:56:02
which I think is pretty fun. But I think I
1:56:04
just I wanted more. I wanted to I was so invested,
1:56:08
really wanted to see what was going on. Also to
1:56:10
have him fall that much, to have it be pretty
1:56:13
far down. If you think about it, if he fell
1:56:15
from the floorboard all the way down to the ground
1:56:17
and actually dislocated his knee, that'd be a pretty substantial drop.
1:56:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was. I mean, he also says he
1:56:25
landed weird, and it isn't it is deep in or
1:56:29
shallow enough. I should say that Steve was able to
1:56:31
jump back out, But yeah, it's sure it's got to
1:56:34
be significant. If he didn't just go out like pull
1:56:38
himself up out of that hole right, I could maybe
1:56:41
out of it seven feet right high or something like that.
1:56:44
Speaker 1: Sure to where it's like it's I'm not saying it's
1:56:47
the deepest thing, but I do think it's it's deep
1:56:49
enough to where, yes, well he could stay up fully
1:56:51
at first.
1:56:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can stand up. I imagine it's like if
1:56:54
you reach your hands up, you can touch it type thing.
1:56:57
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, I think that it's it's high enough to
1:57:00
where if you didn't know you were falling and you
1:57:01
didn't like have yourself properly set to like brace yourself,
1:57:05
you could fuck You could probably fuck up your knee.
1:57:07
So it's interesting. I mean, what's your takeaway? What do
1:57:10
you think? Man?
1:57:11
Speaker 2: So, first of all, I love it. I think I
1:57:14
think it's really good. I'm kind of glad that well.
1:57:19
I don't know, there's a bunch of stories that I
1:57:21
read when I was a kid that I didn't fully
1:57:23
appreciate then, but I do now. Like I think, Pinpal,
1:57:26
I think if I recall, right I listened to as
1:57:28
a kid and it didn't mean as much to me
1:57:29
as it did now, or one of those stories. So
1:57:33
I don't know if I would have appreciated this as
1:57:35
much as a kid, because I'd just be kind of like, oh,
1:57:37
that's it, right, but we're really given everything we could
1:57:41
have right about. We're giving the puzzle pieces, we're giving
1:57:45
the experience. I love the story a lot. I'm setting here.
1:57:50
My mind's like racking itself theorizing what it all means,
1:57:54
like what all happened?
1:57:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how much the author knows versus I
1:57:59
wonder if a story like this comes about from just
1:58:02
the idea of a shower head leaking an unknown almost
1:58:06
mysterious like bile or something, and then you know, just
1:58:09
kind of like going from there. I wonder how much
1:58:11
of it do they actually know because you have so
1:58:13
many different things like the door, which is presumably okay, Oh,
1:58:17
let me ask you this then too. Do you think
1:58:19
that that was the same place as mister May's or
1:58:22
do you think that just in this town specifically? There's
1:58:25
multiple of them? Because it seems like the tunnels go
1:58:27
on for how long are they interconnected? You know what
1:58:30
I mean?
1:58:30
Speaker 2: Ause it feels like miles, But I don't think it's
1:58:33
actually miles per se, right, maybe maybe one mile or something.
1:58:38
Speaker 1: But crawling that far? Ugh? No, no, no, I yeah,
1:58:42
I definitely think I'm just wondering because the silo thing
1:58:45
in particular kind of where I was like, well, the
1:58:49
silo is not even there, because they like, why would
1:58:51
the silo be gone? So that's why I'm like, Oh,
1:58:53
I wonder if it was like an interchanging amount of
1:58:55
tunnels and then some of them have like weird tight
1:58:58
crawl spaces to where you get out. Yeah, sure that
1:59:01
are kind of like interconnected between stuff, especially the idea
1:59:04
of I don't think that mister Mays also put an
1:59:06
emphasis on like the red door a red door, because
1:59:09
on this one in particular, he was talking about the knob,
1:59:12
which had some sort of demon face shape or something,
1:59:17
but he made it an emphasis. Jack did at least
1:59:19
made an emphasis to talk about how the door was
1:59:21
like flaking red paint pretty much. And I feel like
1:59:25
if the I feel like if it was a red
1:59:28
door before, I feel like mister May's probably would have said, oh,
1:59:30
there was a small red door, just because it's so pronounced,
1:59:33
because whenever he was talking about it, I just imagined
1:59:35
a regular wooden, brown door. Is kind of what made
1:59:38
me think.
1:59:39
Speaker 2: So the first thing that comes to mind is some
1:59:43
so I think there's definitely a supernatural element, right at
1:59:48
least a little bit, because how else are things appearing
1:59:52
and disappearing, or how are they living down there without
1:59:55
you know, supposedly food or what? I right that? Or
2:00:03
it's some kind of cult who lives down in the tunnels?
2:00:06
Speaker 1: Mm? The cult of children or do you think like
2:00:09
a cult of people in they?
2:00:11
Speaker 2: I have more like either they have children or the
2:00:14
children are the things being summoned because they have the
2:00:20
door that has as he describes it, a knocker that
2:00:23
looks like a demon right right, and it leads to effectively,
2:00:27
like you described it, a kill shoot right. So, and
2:00:31
then there's like this fleshy fluid that comes out of
2:00:34
the walls. There's a lot of my mind's like concocting
2:00:39
itself right now, what do you what do you think
2:00:41
initial theory?
2:00:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's difficult. I think there's a lot of different
2:00:45
There's a lot of things that are aesthetically put there
2:00:48
that are fun, but they don't really add up to
2:00:51
anything that is leading my mind, which is interesting because
2:00:55
there's a couple of things, I mean, like the nightgowns
2:00:57
are such an out of date thing, and have children
2:01:01
just be there there as deprived as a Holocaust victim
2:01:05
as he so put it, And their hair is so
2:01:09
incredibly long, so it's like they've been living essentially this
2:01:12
way for how long underneath there. I'm guessing that he
2:01:15
means that the eye, the glint of the eyes being
2:01:18
you know, angry or something. I almost read that as
2:01:21
if it was a blind eye, like they've been living
2:01:23
in the darkness, because he didn't put emphasis on you know,
2:01:28
like whenever mister May said the story, he was talking
2:01:30
about how the lights were kind of like flickering on
2:01:32
and off or whatever, and I'm guessing that you would
2:01:35
have to assume that that was the same for this tunnel,
2:01:38
or he didn't really put an emphasis on the lights.
2:01:40
I don't think he was just I think it was
2:01:41
just a dark tunnel, right.
2:01:43
Speaker 2: I imagine it was a dark tunnel when he goes in again,
2:01:45
because everything's abandon because when mister Mays's story, there were
2:01:49
lights on around the barn and the door was locked,
2:01:53
like something was going on in there and they couldn't
2:01:55
get in, right, So that explains why the lights are
2:01:58
also on in the tunnel. So I would imagine it
2:02:02
was dark in the tunnels when Jack goes to eight
2:02:06
years later, unless, like you said, this is just a
2:02:11
different tunnel system. It's a different location that maybe they're
2:02:14
interconnected with.
2:02:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am in belief of that, because I just
2:02:19
feel like if it was the same, I feel like
2:02:22
there would be more context clues that Jack himself would say, like, oh,
2:02:26
I saw the lights that he said the lights were
2:02:29
off this time, or so, you know what I mean.
2:02:30
There would be more stuff of him trying to piece
2:02:33
together that this was the place that he was looking
2:02:35
for the thing that he's heard about and retold however
2:02:37
many times in his life. Right, And the story is
2:02:41
kind of taking a shape where I mean, the barn
2:02:43
itself is just an industrial farm equipment barn essentially, which
2:02:46
is for people that have never been one of those barns.
2:02:48
I mean, it's basically just a giant metal structure with
2:02:51
cement flooring of some kind, which in this case, I'm
2:02:54
guessing it's even just wooden flooring if he's able to
2:02:56
bust through it. But it kind of reminds me of
2:02:59
this actually SEP story, which is SEP. I think it's
2:03:02
zero four zero JP And it's all about like a
2:03:05
random structure built around a well where if you look
2:03:08
at if you look in the well, that's when you
2:03:10
become cursed. So I'm almost wondering if these people in
2:03:12
this town in some kind of vicinity, and I, you know,
2:03:16
I think you're right. I don't think it has to
2:03:17
be you know, this massive, massive thing, But think about
2:03:22
like even a five mile radius. That's a lot in
2:03:25
terms of like tunnels and stuff, and even just being
2:03:27
around some kind of wooded area where you probably can't
2:03:29
see the other structures. Who knows how close mister May's
2:03:32
structure was if it is a separate building and they
2:03:36
are interconnected in that way. But to me, I almost
2:03:40
the way I'm deciphering it, and the thing that I'm
2:03:42
having the most fun thinking about is essentially some kind
2:03:46
of pagan like religion or some kind of cult that
2:03:50
you're saying that is underground that has been plagued there,
2:03:53
and now they have people have built these structures on
2:03:56
top of it to either contain it or to monitor
2:03:58
it in some kind of way, and has like been
2:04:01
like like filtered out, and I by by monitoring it,
2:04:04
I'm just mean like who knows, maybe locals. I mean,
2:04:07
this old woman is the only person that has that
2:04:09
has any kind of resemblance of it. So it's like
2:04:12
maybe like back in the back in time, it was
2:04:15
like more monitored or people, you know, kept more of
2:04:18
an eye on it. But it's kind of faded through
2:04:19
the generations of stuff, or maybe they have assumed that
2:04:22
it's kind of died out. But these doors, these interconnected doors,
2:04:25
or even a door underground, it's just like who builds that, right? Yeah?
2:04:30
Who knows? So it's I don't know. Personally, I like
2:04:34
to think that people build something on top of it,
2:04:37
that it's a structure that existed underground, and that they
2:04:39
have been building it regardless of the people that who
2:04:43
set it up, because you know, you know, did the
2:04:46
people who are also like who are watching this thing?
2:04:50
Did they fabricate the lights around it? To the doors
2:04:52
or something? Where did the showerheads come from? There's so
2:04:55
many non sequitor like set pieces that just don't can
2:05:00
well to where I'm trying to find. I'm trying to
2:05:02
rationalize in my head, and while these visuals are cool,
2:05:05
I'm like, I'm trying to like think of some kind
2:05:08
of fun thing because the story is so ambiguous. I'm
2:05:10
trying to think of some fun thing that ties it
2:05:12
all together. But it's very hard because there's a lot
2:05:14
of non sequitor set pieces that are going together.
2:05:17
Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated.
2:05:20
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other visually, a lot of good stuff.
2:05:22
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you think of this? What if
2:05:28
the cult is summoning something or worshiping something or what
2:05:33
have you. I'll take back what I said about the
2:05:35
children maybe being the pieces of worship and say, maybe
2:05:39
they're just children of the cult whatever. Maybe they're emaciated
2:05:44
kept it. Maybe it's part of the ritual that you
2:05:46
need to keep children around for.
2:05:47
Speaker 1: It or whatever.
2:05:48
Speaker 2: The mention mays has of right before they leave, how
2:05:52
they hear what sounds like an animal screaming, you know,
2:05:56
he says, like it sounds like a bunch of dogs.
2:05:58
What if that is the creature being summoned back in
2:06:00
the shower room.
2:06:02
Speaker 1: It could be. It very well could be.
2:06:04
Speaker 2: I mean, like, maybe, okay, maybe it's a fun when
2:06:08
people get near the showers because they have the ritual
2:06:13
in place or whatever. Maybe it requires someone from the
2:06:15
outside to come in. Right, they get near the showers,
2:06:18
and then in the demon room, which has like a
2:06:20
demon crest over the door, these shower heads begin to
2:06:24
fill with rot, effectively like a fluid out of hell.
2:06:28
A fluid out of damnation. The cult does whatever they
2:06:31
do to create that, using maybe human bodies or corpses,
2:06:35
using the children. It fills the floor of the room
2:06:40
with that, with the rotted water, and then the demon
2:06:44
they're trying to summon rises out.
2:06:46
Speaker 1: Of it some kind of like basically like summoning a
2:06:49
ritual or something. I feel like the kids are such
2:06:52
an important part of it, of like it'd be kind
2:06:54
of interesting if even the kids were like a just
2:06:58
a different take on a paranormal to do like that,
2:07:00
because I don't think you would ever associate a demon
2:07:02
looking like that. But it's like them being trapped down
2:07:06
there and the door being a seal itself, like once
2:07:09
you open the door, they're able to get out and stuff.
2:07:11
I mean, such an emphasis too on them saying that
2:07:13
the eyes you know that they wanted to harm me,
2:07:16
makes the children also feel so evil, Like I really
2:07:18
didn't feel sympathetic. I was just mostly terrified of the
2:07:22
kids down there, you know what I mean?
2:07:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're a part of it almost.
2:07:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, they feel like such a pivotal piece of this
2:07:29
kind of thing, which who knows, I mean it also
2:07:33
which I don't know if you read it like this too,
2:07:35
But it almost made me think that, like, are the
2:07:37
children even children? Are they just like do they have
2:07:39
the appearance of children? But who knows how old they are, right,
2:07:43
because almost when he said that, they were like, you know,
2:07:46
so frail and stuff. To me, that also reads kind
2:07:49
of like an extremely old person as well. So I
2:07:54
don't know, I mean like they could have these kind
2:07:56
of like you know, some kind of these to these
2:08:00
trapped in time and they're kind of just physically decaying
2:08:04
very slowly, like almost like a fucking mummy or something.
2:08:07
I think it's kind of interesting, but there's a lot.
2:08:09
There's just so much stuff of like very emphasis on,
2:08:12
like the demon head on the door, you know, so
2:08:15
many very peculiar things. I kind of wish we had more.
2:08:18
I just want more, you know. And I think that
2:08:20
if it was if this story was written God, I
2:08:24
would say, if the story was written in like twenty seventeen,
2:08:27
I feel like you would have had way more. I
2:08:29
feel like I'm wondering this too. I wonder, you know,
2:08:32
I wish I could go back and actually be a
2:08:33
part of the culture of this at the time. But
2:08:35
I wonder how much of this back in the day
2:08:37
where it was like, oh yeah, this was just the
2:08:39
way like the aesthetic, the kind of flow that people
2:08:43
had where you're like you want to be short and
2:08:45
sweet versus really getting into more and more or what
2:08:50
that too.
2:08:50
Speaker 2: Another big aspect of it was if you make some
2:08:55
details of your story unclear and people decide to talk
2:08:59
about it, then that's going to boost your story, right,
2:09:02
I mean you see the same thing now, Like look
2:09:04
at indie video games, right, they all try to do
2:09:06
what Five Nights of Freddy's did with being like having
2:09:09
obscure lore that YouTubers talk about. It was the same
2:09:12
thing back then, only they would talk about like message
2:09:14
boards and stuff. Most of them were bad, like it would.
2:09:19
That's where beams come from of like the creature, you know,
2:09:22
like really vague or whatever.
2:09:23
Speaker 1: Where it's it's so ambiguous because at the point at
2:09:26
a point when you do that, ambiguity works so well
2:09:29
in stories because the human your own human mind is
2:09:31
going to conjure something that really fucks with you. In particular,
2:09:35
which is sometimes whenever people are like, oh I didn't
2:09:37
like this ending because in your mind it was going
2:09:39
somewhere else and it isn't as satisfying as it would
2:09:42
have been in your mind if it would have been
2:09:43
left kind of ambiguous. But at the same time, ambiguity
2:09:46
can be an extreme crutch, an extreme crutch to where
2:09:49
it feels cheap. It cheapens it to such a degree.
2:09:54
And I think, and that's one thing too that you're
2:09:56
right with, Like you know, Five Nights of Freddy's, even
2:09:58
parts of like the back Rooms and stuff, or even
2:10:01
other pieces of media online people love to theorize about
2:10:05
like universes and worlds and stuff and like especially like environments,
2:10:10
you know, conspiracies, these kind of things and storytelling, and
2:10:12
I think it especially grabs people to have that discussion.
2:10:17
And I think one thing too that I wrote down
2:10:19
when we were about halfway through that I wanted to
2:10:22
wait till we got to the end of was with
2:10:26
stories like this which I'm unfamiliar and I could be,
2:10:29
you know, saying something that is already happens. But do
2:10:32
you think that there's a world here where people want
2:10:36
to add on to these stories to where it's like,
2:10:38
so let's say somebody who isn't Clover or Dylan, our
2:10:42
author here, somebody else is like, hey, I went to
2:10:47
Broken Bow, Nebraska and they write their own version of
2:10:49
this years apart that is just inspired by the story,
2:10:53
because that was one thing where I was like, this
2:10:55
is such an awesome opportunity would be to see other
2:10:58
people be like, Oh, I want to Broken Bow, Nebraska
2:11:01
and this is what happened to me, and you kind
2:11:02
of get to keep this, this, this story and this
2:11:06
universe a live by doing so from different perspectives as well,
2:11:10
and you get to add on to it in its
2:11:11
own way, which granted I don't think that, you know,
2:11:14
you could. You could have probably a lot of bad
2:11:17
media that way, but I'd be curious just to hear
2:11:20
other people's interpretations that are trying to pay homage and
2:11:23
like add to the universe of something, you know, and
2:11:25
it doesn't take away from the original story at all.
2:11:28
You could not read those and it would still make
2:11:30
the original story just as good. Or if you're somebody
2:11:33
like me and you just want to see more of this,
2:11:36
I think it could be really interesting if there was
2:11:37
talented writers out there who are just like, oh, you know,
2:11:40
it's cool. All the hard work too of like conceptualizing
2:11:43
something is done and I get to just add to
2:11:45
whatever this story is. Do you think that would be
2:11:49
kind of interesting or does that happen at all?
2:11:51
Speaker 2: That that does happen. There's a lot of it's really
2:11:55
like fan fiction out there, you know. Well, no, no, I
2:12:00
don't mean that in a bad way. I mean, like,
2:12:02
you know, fans of the stories writing like, oh, here's
2:12:04
my tale of what happened in this universe. You know,
2:12:06
stuff like that. See, that kind of thing was pretty common.
2:12:10
I can't recall any specifically that were that famous other
2:12:17
than the author coming back later. Like The Showers actually
2:12:20
has a sequel. The author came back and wrote a
2:12:23
part three like years later. There's stuff like that, But
2:12:33
I can't think. I can't think of any examples where
2:12:35
someone else wrote their own because there's like like the
2:12:37
Left Right Game. I've heard that some people have made
2:12:40
their own stories about that, like within you know, like oh,
2:12:43
this other group of people found the found the maps
2:12:46
and you know, started charting their own course things like that.
2:12:50
So I think it's fairly common. I'd be interested if
2:12:52
any of them did well, you know.
2:12:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just think that it's a thing
2:12:56
where it's like if you could have a different I mean,
2:12:58
twelve years is crazy, you know, there's been so much
2:13:01
advancement into this subreddit, into the even just like online storytelling.
2:13:06
I think people are, you know, because people absorb these things.
2:13:09
People are more talented at writing and everything now too.
2:13:11
I think there's so much talent out there that it'd
2:13:13
be kind of interesting, you know, and not in a
2:13:16
way where you're taking away from the original at all.
2:13:19
But I just I just wonder if there's a way,
2:13:21
especially when something is disambiguous. You obviously can't do that
2:13:24
with pinpal or like a berasca. Like if you tried
2:13:27
doing a barrasca, I feel like you would just be like,
2:13:29
that's just it's just doesn't work, you know. But something
2:13:31
that's this ambiguous and this kind of paranormal in a way,
2:13:34
I think they could take it a bunch of different ways,
2:13:36
you know. And I don't think that, and I don't
2:13:37
think that you do it from the perspective of Jack
2:13:39
at all. I think you just put your own character
2:13:42
into it, because if you look at some of the
2:13:44
comments here on the reddit, so many people are like,
2:13:47
I want to take a trip to Nebraska or whatever.
2:13:49
It's the same kind of people that also like I
2:13:51
want to do the left right game myself, which granted
2:13:53
the left right game. I don't think you could do
2:13:56
that one particularly either, just because it's it's the exact
2:13:59
same set up every time, so it would just be
2:14:02
like new characters going through the same thing that we've
2:14:03
heard of before without probably you know, with just like
2:14:07
slightly different results. But this one, it's just there's so
2:14:09
much that is left on the table, so much that
2:14:13
we don't know that you never know, you know, and
2:14:15
if you do abide by the theory that there's different
2:14:18
tunnels and there's different approaches you could take, it could
2:14:20
just be interesting. You know, who knows.
2:14:23
Speaker 2: I'm looking at us. So I've been reading a bit
2:14:25
while you were talking. So the author, six five or
2:14:29
six years after The Showers came out, he made a
2:14:31
part three, which most people on Reddit are saying, isn't
2:14:37
that good. I read a quick synopsis of it, and
2:14:41
it's basically like he goes back to the Showers years later,
2:14:46
and then the only extra thing he sees in the
2:14:49
tunnels is there's a deer in the tunnels, which is
2:14:52
implied to be some supernatural entity or whatever. But this
2:14:56
is interesting, So someone points out, and this is on
2:15:00
an analysis on the No Sleep podcast discussion.
2:15:06
Speaker 1: So I've read it.
2:15:07
Speaker 2: Someone in the comments, Sorel twenty five points out that
2:15:11
a couple years before this, before the Showers came out,
2:15:15
there was an ask Reddit post that said the showers
2:15:20
outside of Hastings, Nebraska. My twelfth grade teacher told a
2:15:24
story a few years ago at about a place called
2:15:26
the Showers TLDR. He and his friends went to a
2:15:29
Satanic ritual site in an old military barracks and heard
2:15:32
strange voices. This is not the strange part, though. When
2:15:36
he went back to the dorms with his friend and
2:15:38
asked around about it and got an identical response from
2:15:41
everyone he asked, they all went pale wide and said
2:15:44
something like don't ever go there again.
2:15:47
Speaker 1: He said this.
2:15:48
Speaker 2: Searched the Internet about it and couldn't find anything on it. Well,
2:15:51
I busted out my Internet skills and found this and this,
2:15:54
and a few years ago I came across a website
2:15:56
referencing it with much of the text blacked out. This
2:15:59
has confused me for the past two.
2:16:00
Speaker 1: Or three years.
2:16:02
Speaker 2: And then this is that he links to are it
2:16:05
looks like now? Deleted Yahoo post of other people who
2:16:12
had a similar experience near Hastings, Nebraska. M so it
2:16:18
looks like there's a chance this is kind of based
2:16:22
on a true story a little bit, and the idea
2:16:25
that people near this town in Nebraska had an experience
2:16:30
like that interesting and it was described that could not
2:16:35
be accurate because it was just the way like a
2:16:37
guy described as teacher but said it was a Satanic
2:16:39
ritual site in an old military barracks. Now, clearly there's
2:16:44
some you know, there's obviously a lot of that's the
2:16:46
inspiration for the story. It doesn't say anything about the
2:16:48
silo or the tunnels, which, by the way, I don't
2:16:51
think the silo was a silo. If it moved and
2:16:54
there were no signs of it, it was maybe a
2:16:57
storage for whatever the fluid that comes out of the
2:16:59
shit hours were it was maybe some kind of holding true,
2:17:02
maybe it was some kind of obelisk something they were
2:17:05
using to worship whatever they were selling, right, and the
2:17:08
tincher just assumed it to be a silo. Yeah, I
2:17:12
don't think the silo was a silo.
2:17:14
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean, I'm curious to hear what also the
2:17:17
comment theres say to you. Usually there's always a couple
2:17:19
good there's comments that always have a lot of really
2:17:22
fun insider observations or takeaways and stuff. So I'm pretty curious.
2:17:27
Speaker 2: So the interesting points about the story that I want
2:17:29
to mention are the old lady when they see her,
2:17:33
she says, we don't do that anymore, right, so it
2:17:38
is something that the town was aware of, even if
2:17:41
it still doesn't go on. And I think it involves
2:17:44
some kind of death, either they use dead bodies or
2:17:47
the children were killed or something like that. The other
2:17:50
thing that I think is important is the scene when
2:17:54
Jack is stuck in front of the door to the tunnels,
2:17:57
or he's stuck inside of the door to the tunnels
2:18:00
and he hears what he thinks is Steve. Remember, so
2:18:04
he's in the tunnels and he hears the voice say,
2:18:06
hey Jack. We later know that this is not Steve.
2:18:10
So whatever this voice is just said his name. It
2:18:13
knows his name, right. So the voice says, what do
2:18:18
you see? And then it says, just look at it.
2:18:22
Tell me what you see, and then he starts screaming,
2:18:27
you know, like get me out of here. Then the
2:18:29
voice says, rest for a second. I'll get it. So
2:18:34
then it says the statement took a second to settle in,
2:18:36
at which point I close my eyes tight, and then
2:18:39
he starts screaming, you know, whimpering all that stuff. He
2:18:43
opens his eyes for a split second to see nothing
2:18:45
but hair, which is a horrifying line right, like it's
2:18:49
in his face. He can just see the hair right there,
2:18:52
you know.
2:18:52
Speaker 1: Right.
2:18:53
Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of like the Grudge type imagery.
2:18:55
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, definitely, very creepy and creepy and like imposing.
2:19:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he sees a small glint of light from
2:19:04
the eyes. So then that's when he starts to scream
2:19:08
and then falls out of the cellar door. So maybe
2:19:12
when this thing, this girl or I don't know if
2:19:15
it's a real child or if it's a demon or what,
2:19:17
but the thing that looks like a young girl or
2:19:19
young boy is standing in front of him, whatever spirit
2:19:22
is in the tunnels, or maybe the voice of the
2:19:25
child or some entity in the tunnels is telling him
2:19:28
to like, look, tell me what you see. Rest for
2:19:31
a second. It kind of feels like they want him
2:19:34
to worship whatever is being worshiped, or they want him
2:19:36
to join them or something.
2:19:38
Speaker 1: It feels malicious with how calm it is, like the whispering.
2:19:40
For sure, it doesn't. It doesn't feel good yes, exact opinion.
2:19:45
Speaker 2: So when this voice is saying, what do you see? Oh,
2:19:48
just look at it, tell me what you see, and
2:19:51
then it says rest for a second, I'll get it,
2:19:53
it sounds to me like they're wanting him to look
2:19:56
at this child and maybe become a part of the cult,
2:19:58
worship whatever demon they are worshiping, but he fights against it.
2:20:02
So they let him out because remember, Steve wasn't there
2:20:05
to unlock the door. The door just became unlocked, so
2:20:09
it had to be by some supernatural means in the cave.
2:20:12
So maybe because he wasn't willing to worship whatever showed up,
2:20:16
they threw him out like he's not a part of us, right.
2:20:20
Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's interesting because that feels like a very yeah,
2:20:25
I don't, I don't know. It does feel particularly like
2:20:31
something did let him out, like just mysteriously the thing
2:20:34
wasn't locked anymore.
2:20:35
Speaker 2: Because even after that he calls attention to it, he says,
2:20:38
all I know is that the door was locked and
2:20:40
then suddenly it wasn't right, and yeah, exactly, And after
2:20:43
he gets out, Steve is still running over to him,
2:20:47
So it had to be whatever entity was down there saying, look,
2:20:51
at it rest for a second. So either there's two
2:20:53
competing entities, there's two competing entities in the tunnel, or
2:20:57
because he wasn't willing this one I think is more likely.
2:21:00
Is it willing to worship or give into whatever the
2:21:02
present entity was that the children and the showers and
2:21:05
everything are involved with. It doesn't want him anymore and
2:21:08
cast him out if he won't worship, it doesn't want
2:21:11
him in the congregation, if.
2:21:13
Speaker 1: You know, if if that's the case, the two, because
2:21:16
I can see how you could read it that way.
2:21:17
If that's the case, then two, I kind of wish
2:21:18
that there was more trials of like them trying to
2:21:22
like pin him down to give into this thing, but
2:21:25
his like will to get out pushes him out of
2:21:29
their grasp, you know what I mean, kind of have
2:21:31
like have a bit more just because I feel like
2:21:34
it's also not that it's a stretch, but it feels
2:21:37
like we're having to do all the heavy work of
2:21:39
like thinking of like these things, you know what I mean.
2:21:43
And it's like as a reader, I kind of you know,
2:21:45
you just I want that information or that kind of thing,
2:21:47
even if it is ambiguous to I don't have to
2:21:50
feel like I'm reaching so hard for these explanations, I guess,
2:21:56
but you know, that's just that's that's just my opinion.
2:22:00
You know, it's interesting. Like I said, I'm always I'm
2:22:03
always fascinated when I read when I read the comments
2:22:05
on these videos and stuff. People always have such good takes.
2:22:09
I'm always I'm I'm curious to see what people say
2:22:11
as well. I feel like a lot of people are
2:22:13
gonna line up with what you're saying, though, because I
2:22:14
think that some kind of tests, some kind of divine
2:22:17
test of some kind, or even demonic test of some
2:22:20
kind of seems kind of interesting and plausible here.
2:22:24
Speaker 2: If it's a test, then that explains why it activates,
2:22:29
or hold on, let's not say a test. If it
2:22:31
is an outreach, if it is an invitation to join,
2:22:35
then that explains why the showers start and everything kicks
2:22:39
into gear when someone news steps in.
2:22:42
Speaker 1: So you think that the showers are only going on
2:22:45
whenever people are coming in. You don't think that they're
2:22:47
just because every time.
2:22:50
Speaker 2: It's described as oh I start to feel something wet,
2:22:54
it gets more. The showers are picking up pace, right.
2:22:57
Speaker 1: That's true. So do you think that at all? Do
2:23:01
you think that the kids could be turning on the
2:23:03
system somehow.
2:23:04
Speaker 2: It could be or their presence invokes it.
2:23:08
Speaker 1: Okay, their presence is kind of the thing that's starting
2:23:11
these things. I'd be curious too if there was some
2:23:13
kind of like if we miss some kind of context
2:23:16
clues is to like maybe what the showers could have
2:23:19
been before, like some kind of because if they're saying,
2:23:22
if what you're saying to the military bunker thing of
2:23:25
the other story, if that's if that kind of ties
2:23:28
in at all, then at least maybe it was like, oh,
2:23:30
this were army barracks beforehand or something, and then something
2:23:33
maybe they unearthed something mysterious of some way. I don't know.
2:23:37
It's it's very interesting that this the sight too of
2:23:41
I guess it just industrial showers is just such a
2:23:46
there's just such a definitive thing of like you almost
2:23:48
think of like gym class or something. Every time I
2:23:50
think of those kind of showers, I think of like
2:23:51
gem like old timey gym class stuff of like oh,
2:23:56
you know, hit the showers or whatever. Is it what
2:23:58
I always think of or like you know, the saying
2:24:00
with like barracks or something. It's like a very outdated
2:24:03
source of like how people used to like do that
2:24:05
kind of shit. So I don't know. It definitely makes
2:24:08
it feel older. It puts age on the tunnel in
2:24:10
my opinion. But who knows. Okay, who knows.
2:24:14
Speaker 2: Let me deliver a final theory, because this is like
2:24:16
crack to me. Uh, what if you have it? Doesn't
2:24:23
you know what? It doesn't even have to be a cult.
2:24:26
Let's say it's an individual obsessed with it.
2:24:29
Speaker 1: Right.
2:24:30
Speaker 2: He becomes obsessed with because the only number of no way.
2:24:35
There's a scene where they're in the tunnel and he
2:24:36
says he sees many people and children standing in front
2:24:39
of them, right whenever twenty yeah, yeah, yeah, when Maze
2:24:42
is making it out. Okay, so it is a cult.
2:24:43
So let's say there is a cult in this small
2:24:47
town who worships the devil, some pagan entity, some something
2:24:52
that isn't you know, a common religion, right, So maybe
2:24:57
the entity maybe to some an it requires some level
2:25:03
of blood or some level of rot or filth or whatever.
2:25:08
So this cult they begin to do their worship ceremonies
2:25:14
by either collecting dead bodies. It doesn't even have to
2:25:16
be humans. It can be dead bodies of pigs, cows.
2:25:21
Like you said, it's an old farm, right, has a
2:25:23
kill shoot. Maybe that's what the bodies are being used for.
2:25:26
Probably not even alive, just rotten corpses. And there I'm
2:25:29
going to say they're kept in the silo or something
2:25:31
like that. Right, So once they have amassed enough flesh
2:25:36
and they conduct whatever their normal ritual is. When Mays
2:25:40
was there, while the cult was still active, there was
2:25:45
something going on in the barn that was locked up
2:25:48
right with the lights on around it and all of
2:25:51
the vegetation around.
2:25:52
Speaker 1: It was dead.
2:25:53
Speaker 2: I think what was happening in that barn was the
2:25:56
original cult, right, So also think about this if the
2:26:03
way Mays described it is you go through the cellar
2:26:08
door next to the silo, and you work your way
2:26:10
for like a mile, and then you come out of
2:26:12
the shower room. And then when Jack does it years later,
2:26:16
he falls through the floor and he's in the shower room,
2:26:18
which is like fifty feet away from where the cellar
2:26:21
door is.
2:26:22
Speaker 1: Right.
2:26:22
Speaker 2: That just means the tunnels snake around a lot, right,
2:26:26
that they're actually next to each other. But there's just
2:26:28
a lot of twist and turns to confuse people. So
2:26:30
all within this one property. There's people conducting some kind
2:26:34
of ritual within the barn that they use to summon something.
2:26:38
Once they've conducted this ritual and they've brought about their God,
2:26:42
anytime someone new shows up to the area, fresh blood,
2:26:46
so to speak, the entity makes itself known. The showers
2:26:49
begin to run. In my theory, the rot fills up
2:26:53
the bottom of the floor, and then something comes out
2:26:56
of the pool. This I love. The only description we
2:26:59
get is it's sounds like a dying dog. It could
2:27:03
be a Molock esque creature. It could be a goat head,
2:27:06
a horsehead, a bull head on like this twisted body.
2:27:09
Sure like it could be the worst parts of your imagination. Right,
2:27:14
It rises up out of the water. And maybe these
2:27:16
children we see, these children that are impossibly frail, that
2:27:20
never cut their hair, and are so emaciated and dirty
2:27:24
there's no way they could live down there. Maybe those
2:27:27
children aren't children. Maybe those are the four erunners, so
2:27:32
to speak. Of whatever this entity is, maybe as the
2:27:35
ritual begins, they make their presence known and they're effectively
2:27:39
the priest of this religion who bring converts over to
2:27:44
the side of their God. So what mister May saw
2:27:47
when he originally went was an active ritual in practice.
2:27:50
He makes his way through the lit tunnels until he
2:27:53
gets to the room that the worship is occurring in,
2:27:56
and he sees the cult members surrounded by these children
2:28:01
wrought from hell, so to speak, these like spirits that
2:28:03
look like small, emaciated kids, and the group gets away.
2:28:08
Mister May said that that guy died, Maybe he just
2:28:10
bled out. Maybe the beet showed up and killed him.
2:28:13
For my theory, I'm going to say that that guy
2:28:15
bled out, that the beast didn't kill him, because I
2:28:18
think happened. Maybe his body was used for the rot pile,
2:28:21
if I'm right about that, But he died of the
2:28:25
injury he sustained from the roof falling in. They leave.
2:28:29
Years later. When Jack gets there, the ritual is no
2:28:33
longer taking place, the cult is inactive. There's not a
2:28:36
single person he sees while he's there, but the supernatural
2:28:40
children that were brought forward originally still inhabit the area
2:28:45
and still continue the customs, even though the cult no
2:28:48
longer can we can assume they're dead gone, as the
2:28:50
old lady at the gas station says, we don't do
2:28:53
that anymore so. The Coult's now gone, but the forerunners
2:28:58
of this beast, the children, are still in the tunnels,
2:29:01
and once again, anytime someone shows up, they turn up
2:29:04
once again to offer them this new religion, going to
2:29:07
Jack in the tunnel saying, open your eyes, what do
2:29:10
you see? Rest a well, And when he fights against it,
2:29:12
they let him go. But because of what the cult did,
2:29:15
that site underneath Broken Arrow, Nebraska, or sorry, underneath Broken Bow,
2:29:19
Nebraska will always be the summoning grounds for whatever this
2:29:24
crying monster is.
2:29:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost like permanent, permanent altar kind of thing would.
2:29:30
Speaker 2: Be, just like they made it a hollow ground and
2:29:33
it won't go away. And the silo, I think disappearing
2:29:37
is the Not only is the building that was previously
2:29:40
had lights on and there was no grass around it
2:29:43
and they thought they saw someone walk inside. Not only
2:29:47
is that building being gone proof the cult isn't there,
2:29:50
But the silo disappearing might be that the cult like
2:29:55
the either the cult destroyed it or I think a
2:29:57
cooler theory, maybe the cult inger the entity, and the
2:30:01
entity dragged them and everything they had to hell, or
2:30:04
like it took them away, it killed them and it
2:30:07
took the silo with it, right like it destroyed it
2:30:09
from the grounds. They're no longer worthy of it. That's
2:30:12
why there's not even a sign that a silo was
2:30:14
ever there, because it was a supernatural reclamation of it,
2:30:18
so to speak. But even though the cult failed him,
2:30:20
he's still looking for new converts within the tunnels.
2:30:24
Speaker 1: I kind of like the idea my mind was kind
2:30:27
of going to, which that, like everything you said, I
2:30:32
think is really really fun my mind things. I always
2:30:36
like the idea of entities just like high like like
2:30:40
living in darkness. And by that I mean like because
2:30:43
we never, like we never really push into the room
2:30:45
and fully see past those twenty children, you know what
2:30:47
I mean, We don't really know what's in the room
2:30:49
past all that in the darkness. And I like to
2:30:51
think that there's some kind of entity back in there
2:30:54
that is like basically producing rot or something like. I
2:30:59
don't know where exactly, I don't know. My mind hasn't
2:31:01
connected where the rot is exactly coming from, right, But
2:31:03
all these like flesh and guts. I like the idea
2:31:05
of him making whatever entity it is, making its children,
2:31:09
and they're just like these sickly children made of rot basically,
2:31:12
and they harvest all of this dead meat and bile
2:31:16
and bring it to him and like form them like
2:31:17
almost like little Mannikin dolls, and then he like is
2:31:21
able to manifest life out of these like big stacks
2:31:24
of like flesh. And then all of these like all
2:31:27
of these like kids are just literally born from rot,
2:31:29
which is also why this this tunnel smells so bad.
2:31:32
Not only from that, but the children moving perpetually smell
2:31:34
fucking disgusting and they're nothing like that would be kind
2:31:39
of sick.
2:31:39
Speaker 2: Too, children made of filth, like and their their father,
2:31:43
the architect who waits in the showers. Yeah, that's good,
2:31:46
that's good.
2:31:47
Speaker 1: Some kind of weird thing like that. Yeah, I think that,
2:31:49
like you. And then like if they're born out of
2:31:50
hate or some kind of evil nature, their eyes are
2:31:53
perplexed with it. But then also what kind of makes
2:31:56
sense too, of like one of them is like you know,
2:31:59
one of them, let's them out, Like maybe they're not
2:32:01
inherently like uh, evil or something, or you know, maybe
2:32:05
it like just depends on which ones. But people born
2:32:08
of these things or whatever, you know, we never really
2:32:10
know their intentions. But just this thing lurking in the
2:32:13
distance and creating it's like basically many children and stuff,
2:32:18
which I don't know if he goes to Gap to
2:32:19
get the nightgowns. But he could go to Gap. I
2:32:21
don't know, dude knows the nightgowns.
2:32:25
Speaker 2: I'll say. I like the I like the niche the
2:32:27
story hits of being a like you're given a lot
2:32:33
of clues, but you're also given a lot of room
2:32:36
to make your own theories.
2:32:37
Speaker 1: I like it.
2:32:37
Speaker 2: It feels it feels fun.
2:32:39
Speaker 1: I do too. I mean, I think that what it
2:32:41
does well is it effectively gives you great visuals of
2:32:44
like visuals that are very very good hooks. And what
2:32:49
I what I think it does with that as well
2:32:52
as you were able to run with those really great
2:32:54
visuals because they're so pronounced at the front of your
2:32:57
head that your mind starts going wild with it. Like
2:33:00
I said, I really do think that if this was
2:33:01
written even like six seven years later, I think that
2:33:05
the author would have gone crazy with like showing exactly
2:33:09
what their intent was. And I'm very curious to see
2:33:11
what like like what you're saying too, of like letting
2:33:13
theories build, because what twelve years around this time, You're
2:33:16
probably not wrong, that's like what it was is like
2:33:18
fanaf that old fanaff is probably that old, right, twelve
2:33:22
years man twenty twelve or whatever. If it is, I
2:33:26
mean like that, I mean that makes sense to have
2:33:28
this kind of like world.
2:33:29
Speaker 2: Building twenty fourteen and there, yeah, years old.
2:33:34
Speaker 1: Around that time. I think, like I'd be curious if
2:33:37
it was, if that was like a very pronounced thing.
2:33:38
If there's people in their comment sections who were kind
2:33:41
of around this time or remember stuff from this time,
2:33:43
I'd love to have any insight from people who were
2:33:45
kind of active around when those kinds of stories were happening,
2:33:48
and if that was just kind of the flavor of
2:33:51
the of the times, you know what I mean. So
2:33:53
I think it's great though, I think this is cool.
2:33:55
It was a fun story. I think that it's a
2:33:57
this feels like a fun one. As always, two guys,
2:34:00
if there's any suggestions, I know people keep saying Tales
2:34:02
from the gas Station. People keep requesting that one, So
2:34:07
I think we're definitely gonna switch up some stuff too
2:34:09
and try to dive into different areas of horror stories
2:34:13
as well. So any suggestions, always let us know. But
2:34:16
I'm stoked, you know, as always, we appreciate your support
2:34:19
and also, uh, we are always always interested in just
2:34:23
reading new shit. That's like been my favorite thing about
2:34:25
this podcast is being able to just continuously dive into
2:34:28
new facets of horror, really fun stories.
2:34:32
Speaker 2: Oh your favorite part isn't talking about old mister Weller's.
2:34:36
Speaker 1: Mister Weller will become a new staple. He will become
2:34:39
a featured meme on this podcast, for sure. I will.
2:34:42
I will forcibly bring him into any kind of story
2:34:45
at any given time. But who knows when.
2:34:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know that, you know in smiling friends,
2:34:51
the whole Schmar move.
2:34:52
Speaker 1: Beit.
2:34:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, this cannot be undone.
2:34:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, this could not be undone, except this time we
2:34:59
don't have and you get to have a fake text
2:35:01
to see who if he's going to be in it,
2:35:04
it will happen. I will force this. I don't feel
2:35:06
good about it. I'm praying to God that it that
2:35:09
it lands well. Mister Weller.
2:35:12
Speaker 2: Church is just going to be T shirt. It's just
2:35:14
a white Haynes T shirt that says in black test mix,
2:35:18
mister Weller's that's it' that's.
2:35:20
Speaker 1: All, mister Weller. Yeah, it could not be a cheaper shirt,
2:35:23
and it will be seventy.
2:35:24
Speaker 2: Five dollars, not even a picture of him. It looks
2:35:26
like the Supreme will go just the word, mister Weller.
2:35:31
Speaker 1: It really could not be a lazier design than we
2:35:34
are doing an extreme markup. So I don't know what
2:35:36
else this was a second but yeah, without further is
2:35:40
there anything else do you want to do? Or are
2:35:41
we ready to hit the road?
2:35:43
Speaker 2: I think that did it pretty well.
2:35:45
Speaker 1: Again.
2:35:45
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this story. Everyone go, well, we'll link
2:35:49
his Twitter or something or if.
2:35:51
Speaker 1: All the all the links and stuff will be sure
2:35:54
to put in the description as we always do, so
2:35:56
you know, once again, be sure to read it yourself.
2:35:58
Who knows, uh, or even with some of the things too,
2:36:01
with the links uh, I like to put I like
2:36:03
to think that maybe people like follow along with us
2:36:06
with a text as well there show some support on
2:36:11
the original post. If we have the socials as well,
2:36:14
be sure to check out the people's profile and maybe
2:36:16
some of the stuff they're doing.
2:36:17
Speaker 2: Yeah that's Dylan Sindler. So thank you very much, Dylan
2:36:20
for a cool story. I liked it a lot, and
2:36:22
it's also scary, so good job.
2:36:24
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, buddy. Well, until next time on creep Cast,
2:36:29
we will see you. I guess when we see you.
2:36:32
I was trying to think of an out. I don't
2:36:34
have it. We'll see you when we see you. Are
2:36:37
we doing? Do we still say stay spooked? Is that our?
2:36:40
Is that our catchphrase?
2:36:40
Speaker 2: Er? Now, did you say stay spooked or stay spooky?
2:36:45
Speaker 1: Stay stay spooked, stay spooky, stay spook, stay spooked. We
2:36:53
need to have a We need to have an I guess,
2:36:55
have a have a That's what'll be our poll? What's
2:36:58
our what's our log line? Out of here? Stay