Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #314 - Trump to Netanyahu: ‘You’re F***ing Crazy!’— Is the U.S.-Israel Alliance Cracking?
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- 0:00Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu had a very heated exchange that got leaked
- 0:04by Axios regarding Israel, the ongoing fights between Israel and Lebanon.
- 0:10And I think a lot of people are, why was this leaked?
- 0:14People that are pro-Israel are very upset because it's shown weakness and showing
- 0:19a schism between Donald Trump and Israel, between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 0:24So in Axios, it came out that summarizing, it says Trump's remarks to Netanyahu, the U.S.
- 0:31Official said, you're effing crazy. You'd be in prison if it weren't for me. I'm saving your ass.
- 0:36Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this.
- 0:40And Donald Trump just came out and he confirmed that this was not misreported.
- 0:45This was accurate in what happened.
- 0:47Which you were angry with him. You said, are you effing crazy?
- 0:50What are you effing doing?
- 0:51I helped you stay out of jail. Is that true? Did you speak to him in those terms? I did.
- 0:55I don't want to say angry. I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon.
- 1:01You know, at some point, I said, we've got to stop this. We've got to stop it.
- 1:05But I have a very good relationship. We've done well, done well together.
- 1:08He always says, we could never have done it, but everybody knows that we could
- 1:12have never done it without the United States.
- 1:14But I've worked very well together. I like Bibi a lot, and I've worked very well with him.
- 1:20I'm a wartime president. He's a wartime prime minister, a very important part of the world.
- 1:25And I think we've done very well. We've got along very well together.
- 1:28So I don't know what you think about that, but this all coming out,
- 1:31I think that they are still aligned. And I think even this being leaked,
- 1:36it's kind of a show that there's something going on.
- 1:39Because Donald Trump, a lot of people do not like Israel at this point.
- 1:43A lot of people do not like Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 1:45Both of these men have been compared to Hitler, but especially Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 1:49I think if you took a poll right now, nobody likes him.
- 1:54What Israel has done is the most massive mishap of PR in history.
- 2:01I can I can in just basically a year, two years top since October 7th,
- 2:06which was a horrific event.
- 2:08But since that has happened, whatever is exactly happening over in Israel and
- 2:13if there's anything that is being misrepresented in Gaza and just everything,
- 2:17the talking point is that Israel has committed a genocide against the people of Palestine.
- 2:23And putting that aside, I would say with the U.S.'s involvement in getting into
- 2:29this war, this operation in Iran, this was Donald Trump's decision.
- 2:34Make no mistake about that. He decided to those months leading up to Iran,
- 2:39he put our whole fleet over there, got all the U.S. soldiers and everything in position.
- 2:45He knew what he was getting into. He was not being pulled and dragged along. Donald Trump, he...
- 2:51Really, I mean, what does he stand to gain by just being lockstep with Israel?
- 2:57Really, it's not going to benefit him and his presidency here in history in the U.S.
- 3:02You could think he's taking the long game. Like, he wants to be looked at as
- 3:07good and standing for the Jewish people.
- 3:10His daughter becoming Jewish with Jared Kushner and marrying him.
- 3:14Maybe that's what's going on. But, like, I would say that Donald Trump is not
- 3:18a little kid. He's not a little baby or a little boy.
- 3:21Making rash decisions. He knows what he's doing. And us being over there.
- 3:25So I think that this being leaked is it's a real exchange, but it's not like
- 3:29he's going to have that exchange with Putin or president of China, Xi.
- 3:35He's not going to have those exchanges with them. This is somebody he feels
- 3:38comfortable that he can say that.
- 3:40And he's also very upset with Israel and like how how misguided people are about them.
- 3:46Like I'm not saying I'm like locked in with them
- 3:48either i i think they're not doing everything perfect
- 3:51whatsoever and i think a lot of people that
- 3:54are very pro israel have been quiet about this not really talking about this
- 3:58because they like they've been standing with donald trump so long because he's
- 4:02been so like united with israel and now that he's kind of like that this has
- 4:06come out like it's like oh my gosh the house is on fire i think this just shows
- 4:10like that we're in it for the long haul we're in it for
- 4:13long run. And I, I'm not exactly happy about that.
- 4:16I, and I, with everyday regular Americans, what, like what we're facing,
- 4:20unless you have a, a member of your family that's over there and in harm's way
- 4:24or impossible harm's way, I can understand that.
- 4:27But just like regular Americans, we're, we're seeing like prices go up at the
- 4:31pump. We're seeing like prices go up in the grocery store, which we really are.
- 4:34But this really has, I think it's just more of the internet talking heads on
- 4:39people that are just being crazy about this and saying just nutso things because
- 4:44they want to be on the side of.
- 4:46Not standing with Israel and
- 4:48not linking arms with them. I don't think we necessarily need to at all.
- 4:52But I'm not like where it's just like the wind is just turned against Israel.
- 4:56And if you're speaking against them, then you're OK and you can be blasted in front of everybody.
- 5:01And that's what people are receiving right now. That's that's where people are
- 5:05standing. That's the the the popular opinion right now.
- 5:08I just, I just know throughout time, I've seen this, like, I can't believe how
- 5:12crazy it's gotten with Israel.
- 5:14I remember years back when I did some traveling and I remember being in some
- 5:19states like around Israel and I didn't know anything about them at all.
- 5:23And I just remember people talking about like, even back then,
- 5:27like this was about early, like, or late two thousands.
- 5:30And it was like, if Israel was on your passport, like you couldn't even travel
- 5:36through a lot of the countries.
- 5:37And i i i can't believe that that they
- 5:40have become so like hated because it
- 5:44started over there like the arab countries surrounded them but now
- 5:47it's spread across the whole world it's like i just see i just see it as people
- 5:52give them so much more credit than they really deserve like and they're always
- 5:55behind every conspiracy that's happening but there's never a smoking gun that
- 6:00links it to them like have we i don't understand that at all i because like
- 6:04conspiracies are fun and all,
- 6:05but like, there's never ever something that exactly points it at them.
- 6:10There's always this, this hearsay, the circumstantial evidence,
- 6:12but never anything that really says that they were, they did it.
- 6:16And I just, I just see like people have gotten to the point where it's just
- 6:19derangement with Israel.
- 6:21And it's like, whatever they do is evil and bad.
- 6:24And they're so happy to see Donald Trump. He is, I see him still linked arms
- 6:29with, with Israel and Donald and, and Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 6:33I do see him as still standing for
- 6:36them this is probably just a flare-up something that
- 6:38got leaked and probably just like the rubio thing whenever it
- 6:41came out there that he spilled the beans out well israel
- 6:44they just pulled us you know they we had to preemptively strike because
- 6:47we knew what israel is going to do really i think you're just playing the pr
- 6:51game you're playing the game because you know what what are the people in the
- 6:55united states going to think underneath the surface the people it's weird that
- 6:59the people at the most top you can say that they're controlled by israel and
- 7:02That's why they're all standing so closely together and lockstep with him.
- 7:06I don't see it that way at all. I just see it as like.
- 7:10We're not going to have this type of familiarity and this commonality like with
- 7:15all these other countries like with the uk and the european nations with russia
- 7:19like there's almost like it's,
- 7:22it's you israel is like the united states of the east of the middle east it
- 7:26feels like that they're the ones that have the same similar values i mean i
- 7:30call let me know if you think i'm wrong about that i mean if we're honest like
- 7:34if you go over there you would almost feel like you're stepping into Florida
- 7:38or you're stepping into,
- 7:39you know, I don't know, Kansas.
- 7:42It would be like a regular place as opposed to just some of these other Arab
- 7:46countries or even just other countries that like nuts, nuts,
- 7:50so crazy things are happening in Europe.
- 7:52And just like, you can't talk. You can't have freedom of expression and say
- 7:55what you want or you're being locked up.
- 7:57I know people are getting upset because they're saying like,
- 8:00you can't say anything about Israel. You can't. I see it from both sides.
- 8:05That's my curse. I see it from both sides and I get what people are saying,
- 8:09but I would heavily much more agree with and land on that Israel,
- 8:14you know, shares our same values. It's a good thing for us.
- 8:18At least be there a helping hand for them, you know, and things because they're a helping hand to us.
- 8:24They're not using us where I think we're both using us, using each other together.
- 8:28And a lot of the things that we're trying to accomplish and what we're trying
- 8:31to make happen in this world.
- 8:33Donald Trump, he, he cares about his legacy. He cares about,
- 8:36you know, standing for Jewish people.
- 8:38He's standing for Israel. And it's like this whole idea of like people that are
- 8:42jewish that don't like agree with
- 8:45the nation of israel it's like if say say like one
- 8:48ethnicity got together and there's just one a black nation that
- 8:51they're just all black or all one all white nation they're just all white it's
- 8:56like it would just almost be like turncoat like you're or traitorous you're
- 8:59like you're not going to support your own people and that's kind of what it
- 9:03feels like what israel itself is it's like the homeland the nation for the jewish people it might this,
- 9:10might sound like you know looney tunes but it's i don't
- 9:13see it as looney tunes i just see it as like the people
- 9:16that are they most represent your ideology your
- 9:20viewpoint your heritage who you are and so i i get i get when people are upset
- 9:25like you know americans you know be stand for america and that's why i strive
- 9:28to be america first what's in our interest but it's like we got to call things
- 9:33out as they are like it just seems so weird like like the dave smith you know he's.
- 9:39Does he care more about his career, his popularity?
- 9:43Say in the talking points, they're going to get you accepted in major circles as opposed to,
- 9:49Man, that's your heritage. I mean, you say that's your belief system, who you are.
- 9:54I just don't I don't get that. I really don't understand that.
- 9:57I've never, never grasped that.
- 10:01Doesn't that seem weird? Doesn't that seem odd? Like if I was just like,
- 10:04I'm openly against America.
- 10:06I can't stand them. I can't stand people that are Americans. I can't take it.
- 10:11Doesn't that just seem weird? Like, you know, like the whole thing about Jewish
- 10:15people, Like that was the place that they said, we're building our lifestyle,
- 10:19our way of life. Get everybody here that's Jewish.
- 10:22I just, I don't get that. That's something I've, I have not,
- 10:25you know, come of age, I guess, but help me through it.
- 10:28Help me, help me understand and see what you see about all this.
- 10:32I see Donald Trump and Benjamin, you know, who I think this is just a, it's just a flicker.
- 10:37It's not, not even really anything, you know, it's just something that just
- 10:40randomly happened. it was probably meant to be leaked.
- 10:43And even if it was like a heat exchange, it just shows that like these guys,
- 10:48they can say what they think.
- 10:49They're not like scared to talk each other.
- 10:52You think that Trump is going to say something like his handler,
- 10:56the person that is controlling his life, you know, and he's going to say that to him?
- 11:00I doubt it. There's no way. There's no way. Donald Trump, he's doing his own thing.
- 11:05And this is PR. This is PR of putting in front of people that,
- 11:09oh, we're having a skiff, you know, we want them to, Donald Trump,
- 11:13he's for the greater Israel project, because that is the America project over there.
- 11:17If Israel is controlling more of the Middle East, that is going to be benefit,
- 11:22that's going to benefit the United States.
- 11:24You could travel through all these countries, you know, and I have to put on
- 11:29the hijab or I have to whatever you and worship Allah for five or three times
- 11:35a day or whatever, but you have freedom of religion.
- 11:37Israel has that the countries around them they don't have that so that's how
- 11:42I feel about all that let me know what you think I'm always open to whatever
- 11:47truth I want truth and I bet you do too so we'll leave it at that hope you all
- 11:51have a good Wednesday see y'all.