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#135 - Ronnie Robson - Legendary Canadian Bassist · The Chris and Mike Show

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  Welcome back to YouTube and Twitch people.
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  Welcome back to YouTube and Twitch.
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  I had to go a little bit longer
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  right now. Hey boys and girls, it's Chris,
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  Chris and Mike show live on Twitch and YouTube.
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  We're here today with Ronnie Robson.
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  Is am I saying that right? Robson.
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  Robson right on. He's a musician from Canada,
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  he's a rock'n'roll star from Canada A, and he's a touring
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  musician and we're excited to have you on the show, man.
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  How are you? Absolutely.
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  Thanks for. Going on, you know what, guys?
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  Thank you for having me. It's amazing you guys are in
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  Arizona. We are.
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  I'm in. I'm in Arizona.
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  Mike, you're. In Arizona.
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  I'm in Illinois, Chris is in Arizona.
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  Illinois. And you're in Canada, eh?
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  What about in Canada? I just watch.
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  I just watch Blues Brothers movie last night.
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  I watched Illinois Nazis. I watched that about a month
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  ago. My son was in town.
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  He's never seen it because he's a Marine.
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  He's like, I want to watch the Blues Brothers when we get home.
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  I'm like, all right. And so I made my wife suffer
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  through that because she's not a fan.
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  No, come on now. Yeah, no, Blues Brothers are
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  great. They played a lot of good tunes.
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  I remember I remember buying the album briefcase Full of Blues
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  when I was a kid and that that album just rocks.
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  Like never mind the soundtrack I think to the movie, but I think
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  the album is much better. Cool.
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  Yeah. My God, that's awesome.
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  So, so so tell 22 countries that follow us, Ronnie, what you're
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  all about. Bass player mostly.
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  That's what I'm known for. Session and touring.
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  Played with a lot of great people.
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  I mean, recorded with a lot of great people because I'm a
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  studio musician, you know, by trade.
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  Worked for the government for 33 years.
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  Now retired but busier than ever.
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  Got huge things going on. What'd you do for the
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  government? I worked for the city of Toronto
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  lastly with municipal licensing and standards would by law for
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  Animal Services. So yeah, it was cool.
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  It was, it was great. Good education, you know, to
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  learn how people think and politicians move.
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  Yeah, politicians got to love that.
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  So how long you been playing music and, and talk about some
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  of the some of the folks you played with and you know, all
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  that kind of fun stuff, man. Let's have a conversation about
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  Ronnie's life resume. Yeah, my resume, Wow, started
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  when I was young, learned, started on classical piano.
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  Cool. Moved to guitar, started playing
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  in, you know, local bands and doing, you know, I want to be a
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  rock star thing took up engineering and and film when I
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  was probably in my late teens, early 20s.
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  I left home when I was early went I'm out of here.
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  I'm gone work three jobs and you know, did the what I wanted to
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  do when I wanted to do it with who I wanted to do with, You
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  know, what can I tell you? I'm somewhat lucky in the in the
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  industry. I've recorded with a lot of
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  great people. I mean, you know, you go to
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  ronnierobson.com in the bio and it has all the names of who I've
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  recorded with on different things.
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  You know, with Hollywood Monsters and Prophecy and
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  Holland tur and just a bunch of great, great musicians.
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  And they keep me on my toes and even more so now because I'm
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  slowing down and I get tracks now and it's like, whoa, I got
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  to practice, lay off the cross. Getting too jittery.
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  OK, so so so Ronnie dog Robson, what's what's the story behind?
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  The dog Thinking as a hunting dog, I was able to find things
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  that other people needed. Like if someone needed a new
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  fridge, I would show up to their house with one.
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  I would find spelling mistakes in their exams.
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  I would you know, and, and that kind of just that was a high
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  school thing. And shortly thereafter, and then
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  a friend of mine, I found something and he said to me,
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  would you like a hunting dog? And we went through the story
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  so. Yeah.
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  It came the dog back again, you know, Plus I'm a dog lover, so
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  yeah. Yeah, but that's how that's how
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  that whole thing started. Was able to find something like
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  a hunting dog. OK, yeah.
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  So when you, when you said ronnierobson.com, that's I
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  automatically will go to people's websites when they drop
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  them on the show because I, I, we do this organically, right?
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  So there's no preconceived conversation.
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  We just like to have real relevant conversations with
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  folks. We're not anything because
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  that's boring as fuck. Yeah.
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  So your website's pretty legit. So you're not, correct me if I'm
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  wrong, but but you got the videography part down, the film
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  editing, the mastering, the vinyl soundtrack work, podcast
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  posting, mixing and mastering. You're doing all of that put.
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  That up on your screen so I can see.
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  Oh, they yeah, dude, I'm just, we're just learning about the
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  screen share. You're do.
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  You're doing all of that in your studio.
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  Yeah, well, not so much anymore because I ripped it down for
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  renovation. But you know, within, you know,
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  two weeks to a month, it should be back up and I should be, you
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  know, going on doing about my business the way I go about my
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  business. OK.
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  So yeah, it's it's a lot of fun. There you go.
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  There's a lot of fun. So there's his, there's his
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  website againronnierobson.com. I'm on the studio side of it
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  because I automatically, MM and I both be musicians, you know,
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  And that's how we met each other.
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  Yeah, yeah. This is this is pretty bad ass.
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  So this you kind of covered the scope of everything for anyone
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  looking to do. To do anything.
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  Yeah, right on, dude. Yeah, that's and you know what?
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  I I've got a long, long. That's really cool, man.
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  Well, thank you. Thank you.
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  And if you go to the bio part on the homepage, it'll show you who
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  who I've home, who I've recorded with.
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  Yeah, is that home part bio OK, Titans of face.
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  And there you go. Steven.
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  And there. And there's the Titans of Bass
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  Book. OK, nice.
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  That came as a shock. Really.
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  Yeah, yeah, there's some great bass players in there and got AI
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  got a e-mail message from KJ Jensen saying, you know, we want
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  to add you to this book. And I thought it was a joke at.
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  1st And what an honor, man. Yeah.
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  You see the names Mike? I can't so read them off for me.
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  Geezer Butler, Geezer Butler, Billy Sheenan, Reverend Jones,
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  Nathan E, Rudy Sarzo Phil, Susan, Leland, Sklar, James
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  Lomenzo, Jack Cassidy, Stewart Ham and over 120 more amazing
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  bassist, including Ronnie Robeson.
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  There you go. That's that's bad.
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  Congratulations man, that's an honor.
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  Yeah, but you know what the thing about it is?
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  It's it's it kind of like now everyone expects like the
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  absolute. Best.
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  From me, I kind of get nervous now when somebody says, hey,
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  Ronnie, can you do a bass track for me, man?
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  And I'm like, yeah, OK. OK.
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  So we got everyone to be legendary now.
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  I'm going. To name drop, I'm going to name
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  drop Ronnie's who he's his resume, his his rock'n'roll
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  resume. This is pretty impressive, let
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  me tell you. Ozzy Osbourne, late.
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  Great Ozzy Osbourne. How was he?
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  How was Ozzy in person? No, it was.
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  It was members of, members of or ex members of.
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  OK, gotcha. So so members of Ozzy Osbourne,
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  Black Sabbath, Whitesnake, Hollywood Monsters, Deep Purple,
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  Megadeth, Testament, Quiet Riot, Blue Öyster Cult, Thin Lizzy,
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  The Band, Paul Diano, Mayan, Alice Cooper, Prophecy,
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  Firewind, Ronnie James Dio, Flood, John Lennon, platinum
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  blonde, Hand Over Fist, Sun Road, Rainbow, Jeff Beck, Jeff
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  Beck, Hollander, Metallium, Danko Jones, Gatto, Heaven and
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  Hell, Jethro Tull in the Michael Schenker Group, just to name a
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  few. Right on, dude.
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  I was just listening to UFO before we got on here.
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  Yeah, I noticed that. So out of all, out of all those,
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  out of all those, all those musicians, Ronnie, what's your
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  best story, man? You know what?
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  Wow. That's a tough question.
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  What do you what would be my best story?
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  Yeah, I think a more of a personal story was Glenn Drover,
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  who played with Megadeth. We used to hang out a lot.
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  He didn't live too far away from me and we're probably about, you
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  know, we, we hung out for a couple years and he said to me,
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  he goes, you know, I've never witnessed you playing a note in
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  my life. Really.
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  So I said to him, I said, well, you know, give me something and
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  I'll, I'll play on it. So we did a Pat Travers tune,
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  you know, and he played guitar and keyboards and stuff on it.
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  And his brother Sean, who also played in Megadeth, he played
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  drums. And it was, it was like a really
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  cool situation because it was really close to home for me.
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  It wasn't, it wasn't broad. It wasn't, you know, an e-mail
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  with a file attached. So that was pretty cool.
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  And you know, with Hollywood Monsters, everything about that
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  project was cool. Yeah.
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  Yeah, some great names in there too, and some.
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  Talk to us a little bit about that project.
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  Well, Steph Holland and I were friends on Facebook and we chat
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  and he finished something and he says, I don't know what to do
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  next. And I said, you know what, dude?
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  Why don't you do another Hollywood Monsters album?
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  You know, I'll give you a hand with that.
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  So he said, OK, so next thing you know, we're talking to
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  different musicians and you see, I see that you have it up.
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  Started talking, you know, and old tunes that he had with
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  musicians that we redid and and that was amazing because I got
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  to play with Vinny Apathy and just a bunch of other great
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  tell. People who Vinny Apathy is that
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  don't know. Yeah, I played with Ronnie James
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  Dio and Heaven and Hell and bunch of other bands.
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  Great guy too. Drummer.
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  Yeah, fantastic drummer and him and I just like, I don't, I
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  don't know, there's some there's like and same thing with Sean
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  Drover too. I know what they're going to
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  play before they play it. So as a bass players rhythm
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  section, like right, right on the money with those guys.
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  Definitely. Did Sean take over after Nick
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  died? Yeah, he did.
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  I don't know if he was the drummer immediately after or is
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  it before that, but yeah, it was.
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  Sean's a great drummer, Sean. Absolutely, he's a monster.
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  Yeah, now he's in the band withering scorn with with some
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  other dudes and his brother too. It's hard to stand up to Nick
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  Menza, but I think he I think he does a great.
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  Nick was just such a beautiful human being.
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  That was another person when he got behind a drum kit.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm hearing.
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  He. Just like I I met him at Guitar
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  Center one time, and he could have.
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  He couldn't have been more of a sweet human being.
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  Yeah. And then I thought about all the
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  times I saw him playing with Megadeth and I'm like, that
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  cannot be the same guy. Oh, you know what?
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  He was a monster. And the thing about it is I seen
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  them in Toronto and Maple Leaf Gardens and it was Megadeth
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  opening up for Judas Priest and they brought him, they brought
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  him his drum kit, you know, 2 pieces, bang.
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  And he absolutely blew me away. He was like the most memorable
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  was that. He was like a human metronome
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  with feel. Oh, yeah, no, exactly.
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  He was, he just a monster player and he for me out of those two
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  bands. And I think there was Queen's
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  Reich too. I can't remember.
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  I, I got AII. You know, guys, I forget what I
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  walk into a room for these days, but I he stole the show for me,
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  you know, and being a bass player, you know, like I, I love
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  drummers and, you know, drummers and bass players, they go
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  together, of course, and he just blew my mind and and Sean, Sean
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  Drover. I same thing.
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  He was just everything, all the stuff for Holland turd I've
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  done. I I knew what was coming up when
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  I listened to the track first. They sent it to me without bass
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  or they had like a, a bass track on it just for, you know, what
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  they wanted. I knew what he was going to do
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  before he did it. I love the gamble like that.
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  Yeah, yeah. And it was amazing.
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  That's kind. Of the way our band worked, man,
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  there wasn't a lot of talking. It was more like this podcast.
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  It was very organic, you know, the last thing was almost
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  interpreted without words. Well, yeah, yeah.
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  And that's the best way to do things.
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  And I remember so many years of of playing in bands or recording
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  with different drummers and I would say the drummer, let's get
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  in to the rehearsal hall or let's get into the studio an
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  hour or two before. Let's just work things out
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  between us and if it was a live situation where we're going to
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  be, you know, out you. Can go ahead and say it before
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  the guitar player and singer come in and.
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  Ruin. Well, yeah, or the keyboard
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  player. I mean, we had our stuff, you
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  know, down and, and younger musicians will say to me,
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  younger bass players or drummers will say, you know what, what
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  would you recommend us do? And I said get in a room
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  together, just you guys, and just play.
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  Bang it out. And you know what?
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  Not only that is all of a sudden song ideas come together.
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  You're you're, you're working on Segways to different songs
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  instead of, you know, starting a song, stopping and going into
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  another song, waiting for the applause.
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  Forget that crap. Do a Segway.
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  Let's go into something else. So.
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  You know, another piece of advice I have since we're living
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  in this time now is go find as many pieces of video of your
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  musical heroes that you can find, like in practice in the
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  studio. Like there's a famous clip out
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  there that got released maybe 10 years ago of Eddie Van Halen
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  sitting in 5150 studios in the mid 80s playing the Rift to
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  Amsterdam, which didn't come out for like 14 more years.
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  Right? He's sitting there working it
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  out 14 years before he released it.
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  Yeah, yeah. And it didn't sound, it sounded
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  like the song, but it didn't sound great.
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  And it as a musician, it's like, OK, Hugh, you know, there's
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  times when he sucks too. You know, I guess that's what
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  I'm saying is what you're seeing in that snippet of a concert is
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  a microcosm of thousands of hours of painstaking locking
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  yourself in a room by yourself, making it perfect.
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  You know, like you said, go in there and bang it out, come up
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  with the ideas. Go in there and suck.
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  Yeah, Oh yeah, I went in and sucked of of a couple of 100
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  times at least, you know. But The thing is, is what you're
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  doing is you're working it, working it out and and drummers
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  and bass players. I wanted to be a drummer so bad.
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  Did you? I can't.
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  Oh, yeah. I just couldn't make all four
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  limbs do something independently of each other.
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  I tried too hard. Well, I'm not bad.
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  I'm not bad. I'm not good by any means.
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  I'm not bad. I just got a new new drum kit
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  for the for the studio when it's back up.
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  I'm running six piece Mapex kit electronic symbols.
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  Sound of those? Yeah, but it's, it's, I got to
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  do drum triggers with Superior Drummer 3 and EZ Drummer,
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  whatever I have now, three I think.
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  And this way I get to control rooms, I get controlled, you
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  know, drums, mics, everything. Yeah.
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  So those of you who are listening who we're talking way
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  over their head, triggers are little electronic devices that
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  you put on the drum and then he has a program.
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  No matter what that drum sounds like in the room, Ronnie can
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  make it sound like whatever he wants to through his speakers or
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  his headphones. Yeah, or the drummer wants to.
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  I can control different rooms, you know, ambience of different
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  rooms. And it's funny because I talked
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  to a lot of drummers like how are you recording these days?
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  And this is like 3-4 years ago. And they're saying, no, I'm
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  using triggers with, with this software in my studio and it's
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  home. So now what I'm going to do is
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  I'm going to open up for other drummers to come into my house
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  and offer them this. You know what, what I can offer,
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  you know what I'm doing so. So if you don't have like an
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  Abbey Road studio drum room, now, you can at least get as
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  close as possible of having that drum kit sound like the drummer
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  wanted to. Exactly.
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  And the thing about it is for many years, being a part time
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  engineer, you know, I've had drummers coming in with, you
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  know, with drums untuned, they haven't changed their heads in
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  four years. And it was, it was a crap show,
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  you know, and now I can control everything.
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  So even even the symbols, you know, electronic symbols, I'm
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  waiting, they're on back order. They, they have a, a feel like a
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  regular symbol. So that's why they're on back
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  order because they've changed things around the company.
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  So I've got five of those coming.
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  So it's one of these things where it's, you know, even for
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  me to sit behind a, a drum kit, if I have a song idea that's
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  going to go out, I can play it now.
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  It's not going to be perfect, but you know, give me some time.
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  You know, I have a drum kit downstairs.
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  That's cool. Man, that's awesome.
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  And if you haven't noticed, Mike loves talking to musicians.
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  That's why I'm just kind of sitting here and enjoying the
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  show. Just saying.
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  It's OK. I'm just a singer, man.
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  I just write the lyrics and come up the melodies.
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  Say here you go, Mike. In his defense though, man, I'll
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  tell you what, this is the kind of Chris always he I don't want.
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  I want to say this in the nicest way possible, right?
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  Yeah. He isn't a musician and he
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  admits that he's a songwriter. He writes great melodies, but
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  this fucker showed up at his first practice with literally a
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  suitcase, a book bag full of lyrics.
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  See. That's good.
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  That's good. I.
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  Already knew he could sing because he sang behind me at a
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  candle box concert for the entire show.
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  So when he showed up with all this shit, I looked at my
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  drummer and I said this is our guy because I've already heard
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  him sing and he's got like 500 songs already so.
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  Yeah, yeah. Well, it's it's funny because.
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  I only showed up with APA. Yeah.
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  You showed up with APA? Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. Holy smokes you didn't just come
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  in with your mic like this. No, no, he.
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  Literally said he's like I still have the book.
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  Oh, they. Still have the I still have the
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  lyric bag and that's this is not even this.
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  This isn't even half of them. This is just what was used.
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  Holy smokes. Holy cow.
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  Well, it's funny because to me, someone who writes a good
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  melody, good lyrics, is important to me as well.
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  Like it's important to the band. It's important that to
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  everything, but what I'd love to do is this as a a session bass
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  player is I will record my stuff in parts, right?
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  The verses, choruses, pre chorus, whatever the case may
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  be. But when the vocals come in, you
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  know, when I get the track back with it now it's got a vocal
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  track on it. I'll, I'll sit there and listen
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  to melody, say what can I come up with, you know, to enhance
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  that melody or same thing with a guitar solo.
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  What can I do to enhance that guitar solo?
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  So I like coming in first, but I also like coming in last.
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  What's that famous quote from? I think it's Sting.
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  It's not a chord until the bass player decides what note he's
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  going to play. Yeah, right.
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  Which is a, it's a true statement.
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  And after I heard that statement, I went back and I
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  listened to our own compositions.
• 21:40
  And you're right, man, it's so crazy how when the bass player
• 21:45
  takes off from the melody and decides that he's going to do a
• 21:48
  third or a fifth underneath it, how cool that makes the dynamic
• 21:53
  of the song shift. Our bass player used to do that
• 21:55
  all the time too. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:57
  We, we wrote a lot of our songs before we hired, before we found
• 22:00
  a bass player. It was a hire.
• 22:02
  Sorry, William, before we found him and the dynamic, the the
• 22:07
  little subtle changes in songs that we already had established
• 22:11
  as guitar, drummer, singer, when when William came in and laid
• 22:14
  down, I was like, wait, what? It just it adds.
• 22:18
  It adds, it makes. I always called it making a
• 22:20
  making a fatter sound like you wanted you.
• 22:23
  Yeah, we were those. We were that band that we didn't
• 22:25
  want to do anything in the studio that we couldn't do live.
• 22:29
  So everything we practice, we pulled off live.
• 22:31
  And then everything evolved from there.
• 22:33
  But when, when he came in and, and started throwing bass lines
• 22:36
  to it because it was nothing like the bass lines that were
• 22:38
  down on the song, on the music that Mike and Scott had
• 22:41
  originally written before I came in and then added my twist.
• 22:44
  And then William came in out of his twist.
• 22:46
  It, it evolved some songs and took him to a whole new level.
• 22:49
  I thought, and I, I, Mike and I have talked about this forever,
• 22:52
  that bass players have such a an important impact on a band.
• 22:58
  They do. People don't realize it.
• 22:59
  People just think you're just in there.
• 23:01
  But there's so much more than that.
• 23:03
  Here's. The three examples I always give
• 23:05
  I I agree with everything he said in spades.
• 23:09
  My 2 examples are the saddest thing about the bass is as a
• 23:14
  band, you don't really recognize that it's not there till it's
• 23:17
  not there, right? Right.
• 23:19
  Something's meant. Like Chris said, something's
• 23:21
  missing. Yeah, Yep.
• 23:23
  The other thing that I'll point out to people is if you're at a
• 23:26
  concert and the rest of the band stops playing, other than the
• 23:29
  bass player and the drummer, what happens instantly?
• 23:32
  The crowd. You know what?
• 23:33
  Crazy up, The audience is still dancing.
• 23:36
  There's no they got, they go crazy, but they don't realize
• 23:39
  that that's what's been moving them the entire show.
• 23:42
  All of a sudden now they're feeling that rhythm, right?
• 23:44
  Yeah. Because the bass is more felt
• 23:47
  than heard anyway. It's a healing frequency.
• 23:49
  A lot of people don't realize that either.
• 23:51
  Is that no? It is.
• 23:52
  What is it? To 300 or 100 to 600 Hertz.
• 23:56
  They're very healing frequencies.
• 23:58
  No, exactly. And you know what's funny?
• 24:00
  I, I, I'm, you know, I don't want to get into a huge story
• 24:04
  about this, but I met a drummer. I was travelling to Cuba a
• 24:09
  couple of years ago. Were you a political refugee
• 24:11
  from Cuba? Yeah.
• 24:14
  Did you walk right into that, man?
• 24:15
  Do you know what I'm saying? I suppose Coming out of my ears,
• 24:18
  man. Sorry, sorry.
• 24:21
  I'm in a Toronto airport. He walks up to me and he goes,
• 24:27
  this is all we're all the rock stars hang out, we're in the
• 24:30
  lounge, right? So end up I know who he was and
• 24:34
  he knew who I was, but we have never met.
• 24:36
  We know you know 1000 people, but we've we've never met.
• 24:40
  But great drummer. He's played with a lot of great
• 24:44
  Canadian bands and we ended up at the same resort.
• 24:48
  He was there for a week and I was there for two.
• 24:51
  And Long story short, because I, I don't want to give too much
• 24:56
  information away, but in, in talking about this, it was
• 25:01
  decided that we are going to start a new band together.
• 25:06
  And I said to him, I said, you know, there's going to be a a
• 25:09
  lot of times, a lot of Segways going in and out where I just
• 25:12
  want you and I to play together to, you know, we get into jams
• 25:18
  together, not so much like, you know, Chad Smith and Flea, but
• 25:21
  we'll get it down to a groove. And we'll you know, and he loved
• 25:26
  that idea. So the press release is going to
• 25:31
  be probably in a couple weeks to a month.
• 25:35
  I don't want to give too much away, but he but and bringing it
• 25:39
  back, he agreed to it and I can't wait to do it because he's
• 25:42
  a phenomenal drummer. And when you release this,
• 25:44
  you're going to come back on and talk about it, right?
• 25:46
  Come back on the show. Yeah.
• 25:48
  Oh yeah. Because it's huge.
• 25:49
  And what it was was it was a follow up conversation we had
• 25:53
  when we got back. And I said, you know, if we were
• 25:58
  smart, like a lot of these classic, classic Canadian bands,
• 26:04
  they have the same agent they have, you know, it's going
• 26:07
  around, they, they do a tour, you know, there's like 2-3
• 26:10
  agents that that all work together and that's it, you
• 26:13
  know, big agents, right? That's it.
• 26:15
  So Canada. Just there's that's you gotta.
• 26:16
  Remember, Canada's only got like. 30 why I know, but but but
• 26:20
  the music scene, the mute, the Canadian import from a music
• 26:23
  standpoint is pretty phenomenal, right?
• 26:25
  Absolutely. I mean, I can think of five
• 26:27
  musicians off top my head right now that broke the charts in
• 26:29
  America. Oh yeah.
• 26:30
  So that's yeah, yeah, that. That blows my mind there's only
• 26:33
  two or three agents there. Well, there's like 3 big agents
• 26:37
  like the the biggest. So a lot of these bands you
• 26:41
  know, rotate with throughout the agencies and away they go.
• 26:45
  So I was talking to my buddy Barry and I'll mention his name
• 26:49
  Barry Connors. He played with like Lee Erin and
• 26:51
  Coneyach and you know, a bunch of bands.
• 26:55
  And so it was, it was one of these things, well, if you're
• 27:00
  not touring in on this tour for this, these festivals or that
• 27:04
  tour, you know, what are you doing?
• 27:07
  He goes, you know, we're doing this, we do this.
• 27:09
  And I said, well, why don't we, Why don't you get into a band
• 27:12
  that rotates like you bring in other musicians.
• 27:15
  So the only thing that I can say about this is no matter what
• 27:19
  Canadian band you love, there will likely be a member that
• 27:24
  will be in this band. So we're gonna have a lot of
• 27:27
  guest musicians coming in from a lot of great so.
• 27:29
  Right away I'm thinking rush, I'm thinking triumph.
• 27:33
  I mean the two. You know, the one that I love
• 27:35
  growing up? Who?
• 27:36
  Well, no thinking. And those are two I I love
• 27:39
  triumph and I love Rush. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Talk to me about The Tragically Hip, Ronnie.
• 27:43
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please.
• 27:44
  Gotta love The Tragically Hip, yeah?
• 27:46
  Now I am one of the few Americans that latched onto The
• 27:49
  Tragically Hip and they have been one of my number one.
• 27:53
  That is the coolest band name in the history of the world and you
• 27:58
  have to see these guys to appreciate it because their name
• 28:02
  fit them so much. They should not have been.
• 28:06
  They should not have been that cool.
• 28:08
  They don't look that cool, but collectively they wrote some of
• 28:13
  the greatest music I've ever heard, man.
• 28:15
  Yeah, I I've always enjoyed them.
• 28:17
  And I remember, you know, back to Maple Leaf Gardens now, now
• 28:21
  closing Toronto. I got put on the guest list to
• 28:24
  for one of their shows and I remember I was at, you know, on
• 28:31
  stage stage right. And guitar player drops.
• 28:36
  I can't remember his name for life.
• 28:38
  Me. Sorry, guys.
• 28:39
  Dropped a beer bottle and bounced and I caught it and put
• 28:43
  it on the floor right. On.
• 28:46
  You know, and a bunch of people were like, you know, it was the
• 28:49
  opening number and, and this girl said to me, she goes.
• 28:54
  I have that beer bottle. And I went, yeah, hold on.
• 28:58
  Don't, don't let security see, you know.
• 29:01
  So I think it was, you know, four or five songs into it, I
• 29:06
  kind of walked overhanded to the beer bottles.
• 29:08
  So it was cool, but it was great.
• 29:10
  It was a great show. And it was great to see them
• 29:12
  that close. Yeah.
• 29:14
  And, and people, Leaf Gardens was a great venue.
• 29:17
  It was. I never got to see them live and
• 29:19
  it made me so sad. I, I bawled like a baby watching
• 29:24
  that Netflix documentary. Man, just they were such
• 29:27
  beautiful human beings that had so much fun.
• 29:30
  You know, everybody always talks about how nice Canadian people
• 29:33
  are. And I've always had that
• 29:34
  experience living in Arizona for 20 years.
• 29:37
  I met a lot of Canadian people because you guys like the winter
• 29:40
  down there and I never met and never met a bad Canadian.
• 29:46
  So watching that, it just proved to me what kind of brotherhood
• 29:50
  that was. Then watching the Nickelback
• 29:52
  documentary, Same kind of brotherhood, like Chris said,
• 29:55
  Triumph. Rick Emmett said he's not
• 29:59
  mentioned as one of the greatest guitar players to ever grace the
• 30:02
  instrument. He should.
• 30:03
  Be wasn't greatest. Yeah.
• 30:06
  And it's it's funny to just see the the Triumph thing they
• 30:10
  didn't in I think it was Calgary, AB for NHL, for hockey,
• 30:18
  you know, it was. And they had Phil X come in X
• 30:22
  Bon Jovi. They had dude, what's the name
• 30:26
  took? He plays with slash.
• 30:28
  I should know him. He's like, yeah.
• 30:33
  God. Who else?
• 30:34
  But they had a few in that band and they absolutely rocked it.
• 30:38
  And I don't think I've ever seen Rick Emmett smile that much.
• 30:43
  You know, for they did an amazing job.
• 30:47
  Absolutely, absolutely. Sorry I'm bad with names guys.
• 30:50
  No, you're good. You're a musician, man.
• 30:53
  You know this part for the course brother.
• 30:56
  So why we're why we're on the on the cusp of Canada.
• 30:59
  I want to know from your, from your vantage point, what is the
• 31:04
  biggest Canadian export music wise to America that you think
• 31:07
  has ever come out of Canada? Wow.
• 31:11
  I know, right? You're.
• 31:12
  Welcome. That's tough.
• 31:13
  I mean, you know what you got? You got Rush, you got Céline
• 31:18
  Dion. Bryan Adams.
• 31:20
  Oh, I forgot about. Her Bryan Adams.
• 31:22
  Yeah, Bryan Adams. But guess who?
• 31:24
  Oh yeah. I love, you know, Michael Bublé.
• 31:29
  Yeah. Oh, no shit.
• 31:31
  Yeah, OK. Who?
• 31:32
  Else yeah, I just, yeah, yeah. Alana Moore, Alanis Morris, that
• 31:35
  came out. Lanis Morris, that was huge.
• 31:37
  Yeah. Nickel.
• 31:38
  Nickelback. Yeah, Nickelback was big, you
• 31:41
  know, and there's, there's a lot of, I mean, you know what, April
• 31:44
  Wine didn't do too bad. I loved April wine.
• 31:47
  Me too. I did not know that.
• 31:49
  I didn't know April Wine didn't do that.
• 31:51
  They just, they just threw a tour in United States as well.
• 31:58
  I guess, I guess, I guess that question would have been better,
• 32:02
  more So what are the what are the the exports from Canadian
• 32:05
  music that we wouldn't have thought of because I April wine,
• 32:08
  I love April wine. I I have their greatest hits on
• 32:11
  my playlist. Dude, I have no idea.
• 32:13
  No idea. You can't get I like to rock
• 32:16
  loud enough, I don't care who. You are.
• 32:17
  I know what a night, what a night is great.
• 32:21
  With a night. Like it's a roller.
• 32:24
  Like they had, yeah, a bunch of great hits.
• 32:28
  And they're still going strong, too.
• 32:29
  I seen them not too far away from home.
• 32:34
  I saw them with headpins. There was April wine and then
• 32:41
  there was Randy Bachmann. Oh yeah, and Randy Bachmann from
• 32:46
  BTO was absolutely fantastic. The band rocked.
• 32:49
  Now was all of BTO Canadian. Yeah.
• 32:52
  OK, really. Yeah, there's another one.
• 32:55
  I think he's answered his own question because we're talking
• 32:58
  to Ronnie Robeson, who was named as one of the 100 most
• 33:02
  influential bass players, right along with Billy Sheenan and
• 33:05
  Geezer Butler. And right, So I think we're
• 33:07
  answering our own question. I still got a laugh at that
• 33:10
  though. That's all I mean.
• 33:12
  Like huge names. I do though, dude, that just
• 33:15
  shows your body of work is something that people admire and
• 33:17
  they hold you to to a high standard, which I mean, that's
• 33:20
  regardless if it hit you from left field or not.
• 33:22
  That's I mean you. Obviously you're proud of that,
• 33:24
  but sure, I can give. I could.
• 33:26
  I could see how you'd be like in shock and awe with some of those
• 33:29
  names, but fuck, did you? You're you.
• 33:31
  You're Ronnie Robson, man. Own it.
• 33:34
  Oh, thanks man. Thanks guys.
• 33:36
  Because, you know, like I, I just do what I do and you know,
• 33:41
  I, I love what I do. I want to do 1 hell of a lot
• 33:44
  more. And now I'm loving the
• 33:47
  possibility of doing it outside my, my home that I can, you know
• 33:52
  what I mean? That I can play festivals.
• 33:55
  I'm not playing, you know, a bar with 100 and 150 people there.
• 34:01
  It's going to be bigger venues and you know, like festivals and
• 34:04
  tour support. So I'm looking forward to that
• 34:07
  as well. Yeah, that's awesome, man.
• 34:09
  Yep. I don't be nervous about it, you
• 34:12
  know, at first. But I was always a good
• 34:17
  performer back back in the day. People always come up to me and
• 34:21
  go, Oh my God, I love watching you.
• 34:22
  You're just in your own space. I'd had vocalists there and
• 34:26
  other guitar players would not come near me on stage because
• 34:29
  they didn't know what was going to happen next.
• 34:31
  Because once you get in the zone, you're in the zone.
• 34:32
  I always looked at that as my playground man.
• 34:35
  You know, I had an adrenaline dump before I would get up there
• 34:39
  where my leg would start shaking and I just, I wanted to hit that
• 34:43
  first chord. You know, It's like once we
• 34:45
  start playing, like you said, then all the sudden the
• 34:47
  subconscious takes over and you're just doing your thing.
• 34:51
  You know, we would all become different people for however
• 34:55
  long we were up there. Oh yeah.
• 34:57
  And with this new band and the, you know, the talent coming in
• 35:02
  that we've, we've spoken to so far, you know, I know it's in my
• 35:09
  own zone, but I'm going to be looking at them on stage too and
• 35:12
  smiling, you know, because I'm on stage with them.
• 35:16
  So this is coming out. This is coming out in October.
• 35:19
  Yeah, this. You know what, hopefully before,
• 35:22
  but I mean, we're still in the planning stages.
• 35:24
  We're still, we're still talking to various musicians about it,
• 35:29
  about the idea. And a lot have said, yeah, we're
• 35:34
  in, this is going to be good. So we're going.
• 35:37
  To chat, we're going to we're going to, we're going to chat.
• 35:39
  I got to connect with a label in New York who's who's trying to
• 35:42
  hook us up with a bunch of musicians.
• 35:44
  But I have I have some dates in November.
• 35:46
  So I'm going to talk with Bruce and I'll circle back to you and
• 35:49
  see what what, what Fridays we can get you back on because I
• 35:52
  want to hear. I want you back on after that's
• 35:54
  released because I want to. I want to know who's playing
• 35:57
  with you, man. Absolutely.
• 35:58
  Me too. You've tickled my interest.
• 35:59
  Me too. Well, I'm tickled pink about it
• 36:03
  this. Sounds like a dude.
• 36:05
  This is good. You're lighting up when you talk
• 36:07
  about it, dude. Your face is like woo.
• 36:10
  Like, that's cool. Dude, you know it.
• 36:12
  It's, it's really good. And Barry and I, we're, we're
• 36:15
  taking our time with it for the right reason.
• 36:18
  Which, yeah, you have to, yeah, I think anyway, the rush is.
• 36:22
  The rush is, unless the muse is talking to you at a high level,
• 36:26
  I think rushing through the the product of creating music has a
• 36:31
  disservice because you have a lot of bands, right, that'll
• 36:34
  just hit it out of the park with their debut record, right?
• 36:37
  Just see you later. Bye.
• 36:40
  And then they're followed. Because they spent their whole
• 36:41
  life right in the first record. And then right, and then they're
• 36:45
  follows like, you know, so I think it I think it's it's worth
• 36:50
  it to take your time and baby step that shit and and oversee
• 36:54
  every aspect of the song just because you want to live up to
• 36:56
  that expectation you set for yourself.
• 36:58
  And when you're putting some and when you're putting something
• 37:01
  together, like it sounds with the people that it sounds like
• 37:04
  you're going to have in that, it's got to be just amazing.
• 37:07
  So you. Have to just.
• 37:09
  Fine tune that shit right? Yeah, and it's amazing because
• 37:11
  what we're going to do, you know, we're going to have our
• 37:13
  our covers that we're covering, but whoever you know, the one or
• 37:20
  two guitar players, we're going to cover some of their tunes as
• 37:24
  well. So it's it's going to be like
• 37:27
  ongoing with us, you know, songs that we learn, songs that we we
• 37:34
  like redevelop together. So it's it's, you know, I'm
• 37:38
  really looking forward to it. It's as I said, I smile and I
• 37:42
  smile every morning I get up. I know that just around the
• 37:46
  corner it's going to be. Huge.
• 37:47
  I got a question for you of things that you can talk about.
• 37:51
  You said you're mostly a session musician by trade.
• 37:55
  What are some of the projects that you're most proud of that
• 37:59
  you've worked on session work for other people?
• 38:07
  There's a few film projects that I did quietly.
• 38:12
  For some reason I had to use another name.
• 38:15
  Really. Yeah, and that that was cool
• 38:20
  because people that know that no and it it got out as me and I
• 38:23
  always deny it, but I think with with music, it's Oh no, no, it
• 38:29
  is still going on now. Oh, you can't do this, but can
• 38:32
  you do a piano track for this? You know, I sent, I get sent
• 38:37
  stuff that's locked. Edit that's locked.
• 38:40
  And Ronnie, we need something in between here and here, you know?
• 38:45
  OK, but so? You're so you're well known in
• 38:48
  the, in that industry itself as somebody that's kind of going to
• 38:51
  hey, fix this or fill, fill this space.
• 38:54
  Or that's really cool, man, I didn't.
• 38:56
  Realize we were talking to such a legend today.
• 38:59
  Well, not a legend, but you know, it's it's just one of
• 39:02
  these things that I do and I like helping out the not so
• 39:06
  famous people too. You know I'll.
• 39:08
  Interrupt you, but don't put yourself down.
• 39:10
  I agree with Chris. You've done the work.
• 39:13
  And something that Slash said one time that really stuck with
• 39:16
  me was if he had been the first guitar player in Guns and Roses,
• 39:20
  he probably wouldn't be who he is today, he said.
• 39:23
  I was literally trying to do what I love to do without
• 39:27
  getting fired, killed or go broke, right?
• 39:31
  He just wanted to stay in the band.
• 39:33
  That's what made him a legend. Yeah, other, other.
• 39:36
  People are telling you that your work is so up to par that you're
• 39:40
  a sought after musician. You're not telling us that other
• 39:43
  people are telling you that. So own that shit man.
• 39:46
  Yeah, yeah. I'll try, but you know what
• 39:48
  answer. You know, definition of humility
• 39:53
  right there, boys and. Girls, just I'm thinking, did I
• 39:55
  marinate my chicken thighs? You know what I mean?
• 39:59
  Yeah. Yeah, but no.
• 40:01
  But the humility is cool though, man.
• 40:03
  It's cool that you're so humbled by it and don't, MM kind of just
• 40:07
  summarized what I was thinking, and it's true.
• 40:09
  I mean, if you're sought after, your people are sending you
• 40:11
  things. That's that's legit, man.
• 40:13
  You've made your mark. That's your life resume.
• 40:15
  That's really cool, dude. That's why that's why it's cool
• 40:18
  to have you on the show. You know, you're not, you're not
• 40:20
  just a bass player. I mean, your website showed that
• 40:22
  you weren't just a bass player. I mean, all the, all the other
• 40:25
  aspects that you can do in boys and girls.
• 40:26
  Again, rodneyrobeson.com, if you're interested, go take a
• 40:29
  look. It's it's phenomenal.
• 40:31
  Yeah, thanks. Thanks guys.
• 40:32
  But you know what, one of the things that I was proud of which
• 40:35
  which I hope that that there would be another album or two or
• 40:39
  three or four was Hollywood Monsters.
• 40:42
  I I love that whole that whole vibe and and dealing with
• 40:46
  musicians and and a lot of people who that I talked to
• 40:51
  about playing on the album said no, but the next one I will.
• 40:55
  That was cool you. Know So explain.
• 40:57
  Explain to people they don't know.
• 40:59
  What's the concept behind Hollywood Monsters?
• 41:01
  Hollywood Monsters was Steph Honda project when he was, He's
• 41:07
  from Marseille, France and he was living in Los Angeles at the
• 41:11
  time and got together with a bunch of great musicians and
• 41:15
  they did 2 albums. So it was all guest
• 41:18
  performances, covers a lot of his original material and it was
• 41:23
  amazing. Like I listen to the first
• 41:26
  couple of albums, I thought, you know, this is great and the the
• 41:30
  amazing artists on that, musicians on that was great.
• 41:34
  Steph, how did you do that? You know, we got into
• 41:36
  conversations about it, but it was that one, that one, you
• 41:41
  know, message back and forth in the morning.
• 41:44
  He's six hours ahead, right? So I could wake up usually 5:00
• 41:48
  in the morning. I get a text from and I said, do
• 41:50
  another Hollywood Monsters album.
• 41:52
  Like, you don't know what to do, do it, I'll help you.
• 41:56
  So it was one of those things. And I he brought in people and I
• 41:59
  brought in people and, and it was great.
• 42:02
  So, yeah, but it was one of these things where it's like,
• 42:05
  OK, it was never ventured again then.
• 42:08
  Fantastic. So with Barry Connors, with this
• 42:11
  new band idea, I'm putting together something like that for
• 42:15
  live performances. Same but different.
• 42:19
  And we'll be recording together too.
• 42:21
  And we're filming our whole our whole venture together.
• 42:27
  So we're going to keep the cameras rolling.
• 42:29
  We're going to do everything we want to do.
• 42:32
  Nothing gets released without somebody saying yeah or nay, and
• 42:38
  then we do a full length documentary after.
• 42:42
  But there'll be a lot of cool stuff for social media and stuff
• 42:45
  along the way, so that's cool too.
• 42:47
  That kind of sounds like a project that we're doing right
• 42:50
  here where you're looking at the owner operator.
• 42:52
  Nothing. Nothing gets done without our
• 42:54
  approval. No, exactly.
• 42:56
  Hey everybody, everybody's got their go to instrument.
• 43:00
  As a musician, I know I do. What is your favorite
• 43:03
  instrument? That if you're, let's say you're
• 43:06
  having a bad day and you can't get something right, you know
• 43:10
  that if it's going to happen, it's going to happen on this
• 43:12
  instrument. What base are you going to?
• 43:15
  I'm going to my Fender jazz bass, My Fender aerodyne jazz
• 43:20
  bass. For some reason it's the
• 43:23
  cheapest bass in my collection. I think I bought it new for like
• 43:29
  650 bucks or whatever. Sign is not a very expensive
• 43:33
  instrument either. I think it it was 850 brand new
• 43:36
  when the guy bought it. It's a Charvel STX custom, but I
• 43:39
  always tell people there's something about that piece of
• 43:42
  wood that can't do things that no other guitar has ever done
• 43:45
  for me. The Charvel You know what?
• 43:48
  Who also said that was Glenn Drover.
• 43:53
  I don't know if it was that model of Charvel, but he said if
• 43:56
  you find this guitar, buy it. And it was a Charvel.
• 44:01
  Like it was one of those things. But with with me, it's
• 44:04
  definitely a jazz bass. My jazz bass it goes.
• 44:08
  And then I got an older jazz bass, kind of like a Duff
• 44:12
  Mckagan old. Is it all Japanese?
• 44:14
  I think it was 88 or 89. Heavy as hell sometimes that
• 44:22
  bass, but it's always the jazz. I love the jazz Knack and.
• 44:25
  What about amplification? What are you using for
• 44:27
  amplifiers? I blew up my amp in 2004 and
• 44:35
  haven't replaced it Blew my head.
• 44:39
  It was a it was a trainer valve head old you know tubes.
• 44:46
  But I like with me being a session player, I usually just
• 44:51
  use plug insurance now. Anti plug in, mark base, plug
• 44:54
  in. Yeah, I do that through my
• 44:56
  interface and away I go. And that's what I've been doing
• 44:59
  to, you know, just I plug into this Presonus and then I have
• 45:04
  Studio 1 sitting right here in front of me.
• 45:06
  And same thing you got about, I don't know, 50 different amps
• 45:09
  inside that. Oh.
• 45:10
  Yeah, you can just. Model yourself after and they're
• 45:13
  so close nowadays. Well, you know what a good
• 45:16
  another good one for you to check out?
• 45:17
  Bias effects. Bias.
• 45:20
  Bias effects. I think I got bias effects too
• 45:24
  and it's got a same thing. Bunch of amps, bunch of bunch of
• 45:29
  effects. You can run through a chain
• 45:32
  wherever you want. And then also they have a cloud.
• 45:38
  So if you want to, let's say you wanted something Hendrix like
• 45:42
  crosstown traffic, somebody will post that Hendrix, cross down
• 45:47
  traffic and then you dial into what you want.
• 45:49
  So it's it's something interest and a lot of guitar players that
• 45:53
  have come over to my house said holy smokes, I got to get this.
• 45:56
  OK, check it out. I've been using something
• 45:58
  similar. It's a guy I was giving lessons
• 46:02
  to. He left this positive grid amp
• 46:05
  over here and they have the same concept where they have a whole
• 46:08
  community of people that upload their presets.
• 46:12
  And I should get more into it too because one thing that I'm
• 46:16
  sure Chris will tell you, I used to get complimented on my tone
• 46:19
  all the time, like a ringtone out of the biggest pieces of
• 46:23
  shit. I had APV renown when I first
• 46:26
  moved to Arizona, which is not the greatest amp for Hard Rock.
• 46:30
  It's more of a country, you know, like a clean sounding amp.
• 46:33
  Yeah. The guys who were running sound
• 46:35
  at the time just couldn't believe that I could get that
• 46:37
  tone out of there. But yeah, I was raised.
• 46:41
  By people. You know who taught me to play
• 46:44
  and showed me the ropes? That that was important to them.
• 46:47
  The show, the sound, the lights were just as important as the
• 46:51
  performance, the song, you know, the, the tone was everything.
• 46:55
  Because if somebody can't listen to it, it doesn't matter how
• 46:59
  good of a song it is, if it's not presented in the right way,
• 47:02
  they're going to leave, right? Exactly.
• 47:04
  Yeah. You know what, I've got a
• 47:06
  positive grid amp too. That's, I can't remember which
• 47:09
  one has got the 2 speakers in it.
• 47:11
  And I got it on top of a thing and I was just messing with that
• 47:14
  the other day because what I was doing, I, I thought, OK, I got
• 47:18
  an acoustic Sonic telly, Fender acoustic Sonic, which is, you
• 47:23
  know, this one's a Mexican. It's got three different things
• 47:27
  between electric and acoustic. So I started messing around with
• 47:31
  the Positive Grid amp just the other day with it for the first
• 47:35
  time. I've had the amp for like over a
• 47:36
  year and I haven't even touched it yet, but it was that that
• 47:40
  would positive grid is amazing. Isn't it?
• 47:43
  And it's got the thing where I have it on my, what do you call
• 47:48
  it? My my iPad.
• 47:50
  Yes. And I messed around with that,
• 47:53
  but see now I've got with the acoustic Sonic, I have the
• 47:56
  acoustic ability and the electric ability.
• 47:59
  So now I'm going through this and my wife works from home.
• 48:03
  She works upstairs and I'm I'm driving her absolutely mental.
• 48:06
  I have because I don't have the studio in the basement right
• 48:09
  now. So I'm like walking around the
• 48:10
  house. I got the Boss Wireless in there
• 48:14
  and, you know, in the kitchen making coffee.
• 48:19
  While you while you guys were talking, I was, I was showing
• 48:22
  you on, on on the Google machine, Ronnie and pulled up a
• 48:25
  bunch of your photos and shit. So I was watching those
• 48:27
  pictures. The humility you have is is is
• 48:31
  just amazing because what I just scrolled through while you guys
• 48:34
  were talking, the word iconic is attached to your name so many
• 48:38
  different places just because what you've done, who you've
• 48:42
  played with and and you've done it for as long as you've done
• 48:45
  it. That's when are you going to get
• 48:46
  into the Canadian Hall of Fame, man?
• 48:48
  Well, you know what? Let's get this new band out and
• 48:51
  let's, you know, let's rock it because I'm.
• 48:54
  I'm ready to. I'm ready to leave my house.
• 48:57
  Yeah. How long has it been?
• 48:58
  How long has it been since you've been on the road with a
• 49:01
  band? Oh geez, the last time I was on
• 49:04
  a road on the road with a band was 19970.
• 49:10
  Wow. It was a band called Sweet 6 and
• 49:13
  same thing. We all played in different
• 49:15
  bands. And one of the guys, the
• 49:17
  vocalist, actually, he was dating a girl from North
• 49:23
  Tonawanda in, you know, New York and pretty close to to us if you
• 49:29
  know the border wise. And her uncle was an agent.
• 49:34
  So we got a demo together because I work part time in a
• 49:38
  recording studio. And we started we started
• 49:42
  touring. So we would go out for a week or
• 49:43
  two at a time, play every night, travel.
• 49:47
  And I think the first tour was 12 days, which I think we played
• 49:53
  ten nights out of the 12. And we came home and I did the,
• 49:58
  the, the bookkeeping and we had $2.00 and 30 something cents
• 50:03
  leftover. But we partied.
• 50:07
  Like, I mean, we partied. We had a great van, we had a
• 50:12
  nice hotel rooms. We got paid half decent for the
• 50:16
  1st. And I think the second time we
• 50:19
  went was probably about 5-6 months later.
• 50:23
  It was the winter time and I think we made 30 bucks after
• 50:27
  coming back. Right on.
• 50:28
  You made more money. But we had fun, you know, and
• 50:32
  that was the old, the old keys being young and stupid and you
• 50:36
  know, yeah. We're fun, man.
• 50:39
  Yeah, very cool. Yeah.
• 50:41
  So. So this new project, you're
• 50:42
  hoping it drops sometime in the next month?
• 50:46
  I'm hoping yeah, work gets up within the next month, press
• 50:50
  release is ready to go and then work on the electronic press kit
• 50:56
  for the agents and the the venue owners and everything and get
• 51:01
  and get some dates for 2026. Awesome.
• 51:05
  You ever come to Arizona? You know what?
• 51:08
  I almost hopped on a plane to Arizona once.
• 51:12
  A friend of mine bought from Toronto bought a house in
• 51:15
  Arizona and they would go back and forth and I can't remember
• 51:19
  we're in Arizona, but it was beautiful, small town hills.
• 51:23
  They'd all get together at night down at the local bar and I
• 51:27
  almost jumped on a plane to Arizona once.
• 51:29
  Probably somewhere up north. Yeah, it was north.
• 51:32
  Yeah. That sounds familiar.
• 51:34
  Or even further north. I think yeah, but that sounds
• 51:38
  familiar. Maybe I was looking on a map and
• 51:39
  noticed that, but OK, yeah, no, he just sold it a couple of
• 51:43
  years ago. So he was retiring and decided,
• 51:46
  you know, that was it. So yeah, that's.
• 51:48
  Where Maynard from tool hides out when they're now.
• 51:51
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a cool.
• 51:53
  Vineyard, the winery up there. Nice.
• 51:56
  Yeah, My, my, my. Aunt's actually been through
• 51:58
  their story. Yeah, she said.
• 51:59
  It's beautiful. Oh yeah, no, I, you know what?
• 52:02
  It's I always loved the states I grew up.
• 52:05
  My parents own a cottage resort in like just north of here.
• 52:09
  So I grew up with a lot of Americans coming in and I
• 52:13
  travelled a lot with the family and without the family to United
• 52:17
  States, not so much eastern United States.
• 52:22
  Like you know, I've been to Los Angeles once, California once.
• 52:27
  Haven't travelled S though. Like Southwest?
• 52:30
  Let me ask you this. This is one thing that I think
• 52:32
  Chris and I have learned and I'm sure he'll agree talking.
• 52:36
  We've talked to Australia, South Africa, Canada.
• 52:40
  Chris always asks one question, you know, what is your view of
• 52:45
  Americans? And I think the one thing that
• 52:47
  we've learned, and I'm not, I'll let you answer the question, but
• 52:51
  I think the one thing that we've learned is the media is very
• 52:54
  misrepresentative of the way that people view Americans
• 52:58
  because. I think so too.
• 52:59
  What we found is you guys don't judge us as people.
• 53:03
  You judge our government just like right Well.
• 53:05
  Just like, you know, like I had AI had a conversation with
• 53:12
  someone like a Jewish family, right?
• 53:14
  And we've been friends for years and years and years.
• 53:17
  And I said, you know, don't, don't think that that people are
• 53:21
  hating Jewish people right now. They they're hating the
• 53:23
  government, you know, and I think I think with a lot of
• 53:27
  Canadians right now and a lot of a lot of Americans too, I think
• 53:32
  they haven't realized that sometimes you got to take a step
• 53:35
  back to take two steps forward. Yeah.
• 53:38
  And I think the point, I think, yeah, in in, in this world right
• 53:42
  now, we need to go back that 2, two steps or one step back or
• 53:47
  five steps back to go forward or even if that's what's.
• 53:51
  Happening now, even. Just take a second to breathe
• 53:53
  before you open your mouth, right?
• 53:55
  Just everybody's real reactionary now.
• 53:59
  It's just, it's just, there's like you said, Mike, there's no
• 54:02
  pause. It's just reaction.
• 54:03
  It's just reactions, reaction. I don't like what you said.
• 54:06
  So I'm I'm just boom, boom, boom.
• 54:08
  There's no, you're wrong. There's no, wait a minute.
• 54:10
  There's no, take a deep breath. There's no just hold on.
• 54:12
  It's just like in your face. Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope.
• 54:16
  And it's, and it's I saw something yesterday that that we
• 54:19
  just need to shut social media down for a year and go back to
• 54:22
  the basics of life. Amen.
• 54:24
  That'd be great. It would be, but nobody will do
• 54:27
  it. No, I know.
• 54:29
  Well, you know what? Social media has been a been a
• 54:31
  great thing and also has been an absolute terrible thing.
• 54:35
  Yeah, blessing and a curse, man, just like technology, right?
• 54:37
  Just like everything. It's just the fact that they can
• 54:40
  create that. I saw something that Germany or
• 54:42
  Japan, somebody over there, they created this complete new heart
• 54:47
  that, that it's mechanical, but it can replace that effective
• 54:52
  heart and just put years and years in your life an automatic
• 54:55
  start thinking, well, wait a minute, just because the heart
• 54:57
  is now unstoppable and unbreakable.
• 55:00
  You're still going to age, man. You're still going to your bones
• 55:03
  are going to get frail. Your, your skin's going to
• 55:05
  wither your you know what I mean?
• 55:06
  Your teeth are going to follow shit.
• 55:07
  So and really and your brain. Yeah.
• 55:10
  So really is that, is that a benefit to the world because it
• 55:14
  is for somebody that may be 30 years old and has to have a
• 55:17
  heart transplant that's going to, you know, get them to live
• 55:20
  in another 40 years. But, you know, no, I just, I
• 55:24
  just, I just, I just think some of the stuff that technology is
• 55:27
  doing is going to have such a negative impact for the long
• 55:30
  term. But we don't see it now, 'cause
• 55:31
  we're all excited about it, you know?
• 55:33
  Yeah. But you know what the thing
• 55:35
  about it is, again, when you take a step back and think about
• 55:38
  it, you know, I mean, there's a lot of things that I want to say
• 55:42
  online that I don't, right? Way to and yeah.
• 55:47
  As I said, this world right now, we need to take a step because
• 55:51
  what's going to happen is, you know, I don't believe anything I
• 55:55
  read on the Internet. They're teaching kids in in
• 55:57
  school now. Watch out for memes.
• 55:59
  Watch out for this, that little really dig in.
• 56:02
  And when when I was a kid growing up, I was really huge in
• 56:06
  the history. I would read, read, read.
• 56:08
  And yeah, it all about history and it you know, I remember we
• 56:13
  had we had clients in from Ohio and they decided that they were
• 56:19
  going to come up for, for Thanksgiving, for their
• 56:21
  Thanksgiving. Our you guys Thanksgiving are
• 56:24
  just before ours. So they're saying about how the
• 56:28
  one son who's my age said, you know, about how, you know, if it
• 56:33
  wasn't for US, you know, it wasn't for Christopher Columbus.
• 56:38
  And I went, wait a minute, Derek the red.
• 56:42
  Yeah. Yeah, the Vikings.
• 56:44
  Yeah. 200 and some 300 and some years earlier, you know, and my
• 56:48
  dad just. And he didn't even know where he
• 56:50
  was. He thought he was in a new way
• 56:52
  to. Get.
• 56:53
  A circle Fuck. I know, I know.
• 56:58
  But it was so funny because my dad, my dad gave me the elbow
• 57:01
  like. Shut up.
• 57:04
  You know, like. Their guests that's even a
• 57:07
  holiday still is embarrassing. It really is.
• 57:10
  I know. Same thing here, you know, And I
• 57:12
  told my wife, I said, but I think we're away in Cuba that
• 57:16
  week. And I said, you know what?
• 57:17
  We're going to do a Mexican Thanksgiving.
• 57:20
  What? I said, no, no, no, no.
• 57:24
  It's going to be a Mexican feast in the kitchen.
• 57:26
  We're not doing like different stuffing, different.
• 57:29
  Like, we'll still do Turkey, but it's going to be it's salsa
• 57:34
  Mexican. Put some salsa.
• 57:35
  So what are you going to Cuba for?
• 57:40
  Relaxing. There's, I think just to get
• 57:44
  away and relax. I love going.
• 57:45
  It's like 3 hours away from from Toronto.
• 57:49
  It's really easy flight to get to great beaches.
• 57:53
  Food is getting a lot better. I mean, Cuba has their problems
• 57:56
  too. Sure, sure.
• 57:58
  But you know what, a lot of Canadians go there just to
• 58:01
  relax. Yeah.
• 58:02
  Do they still have? Do they still have all the old
• 58:05
  cars and shit? Oh, yeah.
• 58:07
  OK, yeah, OK. And it was fun.
• 58:09
  Still in in effect, they can't get any OK.
• 58:12
  OK, yeah, but you know what, most of the most of the the
• 58:15
  older cars, what they do is they have Toyota engines.
• 58:19
  So what Toyota has done is they've for, you know, to
• 58:23
  connect to transit transmissions and to body plates, you know,
• 58:29
  like the to screw the engines in and stuff.
• 58:33
  They've come up with all that for for them.
• 58:35
  So you can get an older car, like you can get a car that's in
• 58:39
  the 90s and it's running great and it doesn't rust, of course,
• 58:42
  because it's Cuba, not not like Toronto.
• 58:45
  So with salt Illinois, yeah, or Illinois, you know, same diff,
• 58:51
  but. You know what that.
• 58:53
  Chicago, actually, Chicago's our sister city, by the way, Toronto
• 58:56
  and Chicago. It is absolutely. 100% correct.
• 59:00
  Sister city Rust and all. You know what that proves to me?
• 59:04
  If we would have just taken care of our cars, they would have
• 59:06
  lasted all this time. That's that's a living model of
• 59:10
  they had no choice but to maintain the outside of those
• 59:13
  vehicles. Yep.
• 59:14
  And Grant, you're right, it was the perfect climate to do it in.
• 59:18
  Yep, but no exactly. Our throwaway society is just an
• 59:23
  illusion, you know they've created that so that we keep
• 59:25
  buying more. True.
• 59:29
  Well, you know, You know what's funny about Havana?
• 59:33
  We were going to travel down Havana Berry and I to record in
• 59:37
  in a studio down there and got a great Cuban guitar player.
• 59:42
  It's all rock'n'roll, you know? And I think per hour, I think it
• 59:48
  was worked out to $5 US per hour.
• 59:53
  Yeah. So we're going to do that.
• 59:55
  And then tour dates, we thought, no, let's get in this vocalist,
• 59:59
  let's bring this vocal. And then tour dates happened and
• 1:00:01
  it never happened. So this is something that's
• 1:00:04
  going to be on the schedule too, for this band that we not only
• 1:00:09
  record from my home, but we take off and we record in Havana.
• 1:00:14
  Have you? Have you Have you named the band
• 1:00:16
  yet? Yes, but I can't see it.
• 1:00:18
  OK, OK. I love to.
• 1:00:20
  See, I love dangling the carrots.
• 1:00:22
  Man, I've been and you know. What?
• 1:00:24
  You're good. You're good.
• 1:00:26
  And it's cool because people will it's it's 4 letters and
• 1:00:30
  then live at the end and you know, live band, but people are
• 1:00:34
  were making people guess what the letters mean.
• 1:00:37
  OK. So kind of like wasp.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah. Yeah, kind of like for Unlawful
• 1:00:42
  Carnal Knowledge, Van Halen's fuck album.
• 1:00:44
  Yep. Yeah, Yeah, right.
• 1:00:45
  So we're, we're, we're going to let people guess and, you know,
• 1:00:49
  kiss, we'll talk about it online.
• 1:00:51
  Yeah. Right on Asia, Yeah, yeah, OK.
• 1:00:53
  You remember a lot of people talking about WASP?
• 1:00:55
  It was supposed to be either white Anglo, Anglo-Saxon
• 1:00:58
  Protestants or we are sexual perverts.
• 1:01:01
  Right, Yeah, no, exactly. But it didn't come up with that.
• 1:01:05
  We, Barry, the drummer said the name of the band.
• 1:01:10
  And I went, yeah, I don't know. And then he he came up with just
• 1:01:15
  just the letters and I went perfect.
• 1:01:17
  Well, Chris Sawyers in a Pearl Jam video.
• 1:01:20
  Yeah, Chris Sawyers in a Pearl Jam video.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 1:01:26
  My very first band I was ever in, we were, I forget what the
• 1:01:30
  name was at first, but I saw, I saw a video and the word
• 1:01:33
  Disturbed came on it. So I can actually say I'm the
• 1:01:35
  original lead singer for Disturbed because it's true.
• 1:01:38
  I was originally singer for Disturbed.
• 1:01:40
  Granted it was a band in Arizona that played out twice, but
• 1:01:43
  still. So when I met, when I met Mike,
• 1:01:46
  the band name was Desperate Angel.
• 1:01:49
  And again, watching MTV Pearl Jam video, they had the word
• 1:01:53
  Nemesis come up and I went to the practice the next day.
• 1:01:55
  I was like, Nemesis is their name and they all say OK.
• 1:01:58
  And I don't know, it took me a while to find find that band
• 1:02:02
  because there's a few around around the world, right?
• 1:02:06
  But I found it. I did.
• 1:02:07
  I end up finding it, which is great.
• 1:02:09
  So because I like to get into who I'm talking to, right?
• 1:02:12
  Sure. Absolutely.
• 1:02:14
  The problem with we have that disconnect between we're old
• 1:02:19
  enough that we were around before the Internet, right?
• 1:02:21
  Right. One of the craziest stories that
• 1:02:24
  I tell kids today that they can't understand if they weren't
• 1:02:27
  there was Chris actually had a video camera.
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  The only reason that there's evidence that we were a band is
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  because he actually had a camcorder, when that was like
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  nobody had a camcorder. Service merchandise man layaway,
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  you know. Half of my equipment was never
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  paid for because I found out that they can't put you in jail
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  for running up credit cards. So I was like, oh, how many of
• 1:02:51
  these can I get right? So I bought Marshall lamps and
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  rack effects. Chris went out and bought a
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  video camera. We just did crazy shit like that
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  because we needed it. We didn't care about the money
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  back then. No, I know.
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  What's a credit score and who gives a fuck?
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  I need this video. Exactly.
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  Well you know what I found downstairs was in a Pelican
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  case? I found an old Canon XL1S with a
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  three times lens and it's got a thing set at the back that you
• 1:03:18
  can put 4 XLR mics in. And I'm thinking.
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  Man, I bought this like brand new when it just came out.
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  It was like, yeah. And 20, yeah, three CCD camera.
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  And I remember using that for years and I thought, but my I
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  remember my house got broken into and they took a bunch of
• 1:03:39
  crap. They didn't take any guitars,
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  but they took a bunch of crap. And I thought that that went
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  with it. So meanwhile the Pelican case is
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  there and I open it up and I went holy cow.
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  So I'm going to, I'm going to play around with that because I
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  found some tapes for it too, so. That's the only reason that we
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  have any kind of video evidence. And then I built 2 recording
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  studios, the first one being an 8 track reel to reel.
• 1:04:04
  Yeah. We recorded most of the first
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  demo we did between Double Wide Trailer and my apartment in
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  Phoenix. So.
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  I was an audio file and I've I was into the sound and I wanted
• 1:04:18
  to know how things worked and literally our Chris's curiosity
• 1:04:22
  with video because he went to theater school and wanted to be
• 1:04:26
  an actor and musician and all these other things.
• 1:04:30
  Writer. I wanted to be into the sound,
• 1:04:33
  the lights, the show, part of it.
• 1:04:35
  You know, I like the production, the behind the scenes, how
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  things worked, which is why it's hard for me to watch television
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  or, you know, a live production if it sucks because I understand
• 1:04:47
  how you could make it better. I know you know, You know what's
• 1:04:50
  funny? Howard Angulator is a friend of
• 1:04:52
  mine. He's Rush's light guy.
• 1:04:54
  You know. It's like back out and I
• 1:04:56
  remember we had a, we had a business meeting there, a bunch
• 1:04:59
  of us. We went to his shop and he took
• 1:05:03
  me for a tour in the back. Like speaking about lights.
• 1:05:07
  Oh, I was like. I can't even imagine.
• 1:05:10
  Yeah, I said, Howard, this is amazing, you know, and I'm going
• 1:05:15
  through stuff and and it was like absolutely, you know, I
• 1:05:20
  just, you know, I was waiting for for, you know, Alex Getty
• 1:05:24
  and Neil to come out, you know, But, you know, everything was,
• 1:05:28
  everything was put away pack, you know, up on girders and here
• 1:05:32
  and there. And it was absolutely amazing.
• 1:05:34
  And he still has that shop, so that's good.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah. All right, I got to get out of
• 1:05:41
  here. So we got to cut this thing
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  short. But this is Ronnie Robeson.
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  Ronnierobeson.com Robeson Robson Did I Do it again?
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  Robson. Robson.
• 1:05:48
  Robson. Yeah, Son of Robin.
• 1:05:52
  Ronnierobson.com, Go check him out.
• 1:05:54
  We're going to have him back on the show in November because we
• 1:05:57
  want to have him back on the show in November to talk about
• 1:05:59
  what he's doing in the next 30 days.
• 1:06:00
  It's absolutely freaking epic. And hey, if you want any of your
• 1:06:03
  your cohorts to come on with you, we're down with that.
• 1:06:06
  So we could, you know. You know what?
• 1:06:08
  We can we love talking to. Musicians.
• 1:06:10
  As you can tell man, it's been a plan I.
• 1:06:12
  Think it's. I think that's an amazing idea,
• 1:06:14
  yeah. Yeah, because we can have, we
• 1:06:15
  can have extra screens here. It's not just limited to three
• 1:06:18
  Mike and I've done a show where they were.
• 1:06:20
  You can come on with your buddies if you'd like to do a.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, that's absolutely. Man.
• 1:06:24
  You know what? We'll plan that or I'll get them
• 1:06:26
  all in my living room. There you go, it would be
• 1:06:28
  awesome as well. That would be fantastic, man.
• 1:06:30
  It's all about you. It's all about promoting you and
• 1:06:32
  what you got going on, man. So totally love you being on the
• 1:06:35
  show. It is.
• 1:06:36
  And I'm so happy we connected. So yeah, I'm going to shoot you
• 1:06:40
  an e-mail and I'll give you some more details.
• 1:06:42
  I'm going to give you my cell phone number so you have it so
• 1:06:44
  we can, you know, easily communicate that way you're
• 1:06:46
  going to get about, you're going to get all kind of social
• 1:06:49
  content from this show too, so you can share it however you
• 1:06:51
  want. Beautiful.
• 1:06:52
  I'll share it. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:06:54
  You know, we'll let you know when we're getting ready to drop
• 1:06:56
  you live. And then, you know,
• 1:06:58
  ronnierobeson.com boys and girls, Canadian musician,
• 1:07:01
  touring studio session guy. He's iconic, legendary.
• 1:07:05
  Just just Google Ronnie Robeson musician and you're going to see
• 1:07:09
  the word iconic attached to his name many different times for
• 1:07:12
  many, many different reasons. We didn't say you didn't say it.
• 1:07:16
  They said it, Ronnie. Yeah, they said it, man, So just
• 1:07:19
  just own that, brother. Oh no, I love the humility, but
• 1:07:22
  be proud of that man. You've made your mark in the
• 1:07:24
  world. That's fantastic.
• 1:07:25
  My pleasure for. Us to have you man.
• 1:07:28
  Yeah, So we, yeah, so we always wrap up the show like this.
• 1:07:31
  If you're having a bad day, if you're struggling, if you're
• 1:07:33
  depressed, if you're feeling suicidal, don't do it.
• 1:07:35
  Yeah. Go scream in a pillow.
• 1:07:37
  Go journal, go outside, run, go workout.
• 1:07:39
  Call somebody. Somebody will answer the phone.
• 1:07:41
  Somebody will talk to you. If you can't find somebody, text
• 1:07:43
  98, eight, 24/7, 365 days a year, you will be missed.
• 1:07:48
  You will cause a hole in somebody else's heart if you
• 1:07:50
  don't wake up tomorrow morning because when you do, it's going
• 1:07:52
  to be a better day because you're in it.
• 1:07:53
  Until next time. I'm Chris.
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  He's Mike. That's Ronnie Robson, the iconic
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  bass player. Right.
• 1:08:00
  Thanks. See you guys later.
• 1:08:01
  Please. Thanks guys.
• 1:08:03
  Thank you, Ronnie. Yeah, it was amazing.
• 1:08:06
  It was. Look the tablet, you're insane.
• 1:08:18
  Feel the teeth open, your light on your journey you will go.
• 1:08:30
  Feel the trail behind your eyes, feel the sound and need your
• 1:08:39
  curve. Take a moment look at you and
• 1:08:41
  see you Put your bed on this you.
• 1:10:11
  Now you're coming. Come down here.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah, we found out. He didn't say you won't fight
• 1:10:20
  him. Wait for the day when he's going
• 1:10:24
  to arrive here for the way we're playing man.
• 1:10:31
  And you should you press on the almighty man, you gotta dream
• 1:10:38
  who in your life to keep our soul in every man?
• 1:10:45
  Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the Soul Revolution now.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Take a moment. Listen to you.
• 1:11:04
  See it. Fight the fan over to you.
• 1:11:07
  More clear. You.
• 1:11:34
  Gotta you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.
• 1:12:08
  The.