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  Would you say that that freedom to explore is not necessarily a stereotypical experience in Kazakhstan?
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  Definitely.
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  Okay.
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  Definitely, because the families, they are also...
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  Let's say in culture, culturally, Kazakhs are more likely to judge something common, even us as Kazakhs we know this.
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  So we have even a word to say, his kid is better than mine.
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  Really?
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  Yes, it's a...
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  Did you see...
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  Did you see him or her?
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  Yes.
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  I like about him.
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  What do you...
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  I feel...
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  There is not, like, English-speaking people separate.
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  Russian-speaking people separate, Kazakhs people separate.
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  And...
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  Can my people come out and separate?
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  We all are together.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, we're all together.
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  And that's why I have come out and say they have a huge respect that they accept.
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  Because it's a...
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  You have to start in a certain way to remove your ego and to accept other people.
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  Right.
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  So it means they're more connected to their hearts.
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  And it just feels...
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  Picture this.
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  You're raised in Kazakhstan.
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  You fall in love with dance.
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  And somehow life spins you all the way to Cambodia.
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  This is the story of Sayora.
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  She's a dancer, a dreamer, and a woman brave enough to say yes to life's adventures.
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  I'm really interested in learning more about her origins as well as her life here in Pnanpan.
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  But first, I must ask, babes, how did you get here?
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  Babe, I was just following my heart.
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  Really?
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  Yeah.
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  You knew about Cambodia?
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  I knew.
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  I knew about Cambodia.
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  I visited Cambodia in 2017 to 2018.
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  I stayed here for a year.
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  Okay.
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  I studied here.
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  I finished my school, my Russian school.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, in Russian Embassy.
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  And then before COVID hit, I went back to Kazakhstan because I had my grandma, so I wanted to stay with her more.
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  Very cool.
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  Yes, I spent with her time.
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  And then suddenly I decided to come back because Cambodia, I just love everything about Cambodia.
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  Okay.
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  First, tell me.
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  Describe, Kazakhstan.
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  I know nothing except that it is the largest landlocked country in the world, but that's it.
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  Kazakhstan.
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  It's a huge country with amazing people.
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  Why amazing for me?
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  Because they are so artistic, everyone.
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  Because in our culture, we love to dance, to sing, to talk, and to debate.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Even though I love Kazakhstan so much, for me, I found hard to be myself there because I'm very open.
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  And in countries like Kazakhstan or close to Kazakhstan countries, you have to, let's say, follow some rules.
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  Because I'm a dance teacher and I want to be open.
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  And the way how I see my art, I want to put any limits.
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  One more like a freedom.
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  I want to dress up nice.
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  You know, I want to dress up sexy.
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  Right.
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  And in these countries, I felt a little bit limited.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  So it's not about the people, but the rules that it's been there for a year.
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  Okay.
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  It's quite conservative.
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  It is.
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  Okay.
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  It is conservative.
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  And even though it's getting better, because we have so many dance teachers over there doing the same thing that I'm doing.
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  Okay.
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  It's just I wasn't fighting enough.
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  Right.
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  Yeah, to handle it.
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  How did you fall in love with dance?
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  I was dancing since I was a kid.
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  And when I was a kid, I love to compete.
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  Oh, really?
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  Yes.
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  So I didn't go just for fun, for emotions.
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  I went there to compete.
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  I love to get the diplomas.
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  Okay.
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  I love to win the toys, gifts, anything that gave me after it.
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  Sure.
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  And then I was studying.
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  I didn't dance for 10 years.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  I was traveling around.
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  I traveled to Asia, Europe countries.
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  I stayed in Russia.
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  I can Kazakhstan in Cambodia.
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  Okay.
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  In Thailand.
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  Yes.
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  And then I was working in an international company that were doing cosmetics.
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  One day I felt it's not for me.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  I felt completely lost.
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  I was very depressed at that time.
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  What were you doing with the company?
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  Retail.
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  Retail manager.
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  Okay.
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  Sales manager.
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  I was selling to Europe.
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  I was selling to America.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  That's how I improved my English.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  And I was hired as a top manager after this.
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  Amazing.
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  Yes.
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  And I was selling solar panels.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  In America.
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  We were producing in Australia and selling in America.
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  Yes.
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  And then I had a salary that I was dreaming of at that time.
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  Everything was right.
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  Right.
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  And then I felt like I felt it's when you come home and you fell empty.
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  Okay.
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  Like you don't have anything.
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  Nothing gives you the spark, the fire in you that you want to wake up and do something.
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  You are just waking up and thinking about, oh my god, I have to go to work.
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  Yeah.
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  So I was living like that maybe two years.
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  Okay.
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  And then when the COVID hit, I felt like everyone is depressed.
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  So I have company.
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  Yeah, company.
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  So it felt, it made me feel good.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  Because when you are depressed and everyone is just working.
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  And you feel isolated.
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  Yes, exactly.
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  So when COVID hit, I had my time.
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  I was just resting.
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  I think I didn't have any plans.
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  I was just doing TikToks.
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  And that's the time when I realized I'm doing this.
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  No one is paying me.
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  Right.
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  I'm doing this because it makes me happy.
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  So and it was hard, especially in conservative country.
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  We are raised to be right.
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  We were raised to be, especially if you're a woman, you need to act a certain way to be respected.
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  And the dance, especially high heels, it's.
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  It gives a picture of me that I don't want to people see me in that way.
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  Yes.
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  So it was very hard time at that time when I decided.
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  So when I was going to dance classes, I didn't post it.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  So you started your dance classes again.
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  Again.
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  And I didn't tell to anyone.
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  Okay.
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  But even my friends only my family, like I'm very happy to have my supportive family.
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  Amazing.
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  Yes.
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  I think it's a luxury thing for me.
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  But when I was going to dance classes, I was running after because I felt like.
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  It made me feel happy, right?
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  I went to a dance class.
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  But after I had this flavor of like, I cannot even share it.
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  I cannot be truly myself.
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  Did you think your friends were going to judge you?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  No, it's not that your friends are your close people going to judge you.
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  But sometimes it might get dangerous.
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  For example, if you post.
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  So it means you are sharing it to the world.
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  Sure.
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  And sometimes some men can write to you that like, it's not.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  And as we are a woman, we always have to think about our safety.
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  Safety.
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  Yeah.
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  So I was living my double life.
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  In the dance classes, I was the open.
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  Because I was looking to LA dancers and I'm like, I'm a LA dancer.
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  Whatever.
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  I'm feeling it.
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  At the same time, I'm a Kazakh.
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  And after dance classes, I have to act a certain way.
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  Right.
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  So I felt like.
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  I was thinking, which one is me?
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  Right.
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  The one that is there in the dance classes or the one that is living and trying to build a right way to leave.
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  And that's when I was starting to think, maybe I should go back to Cambodia.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  But once I visited to come visit it, Cambodia in 2018, 19.
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  It was.
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  It wasn't that developed and they had no studios.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  So it meant for me, I have to leave because at that time, I started teaching already.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  So at that time, I had to decide.
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  So you're teaching and you're still keeping your corporate job?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  I quit.
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  I quit.
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  And then you're just teaching, dancing yourself.
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  Dancing.
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  And then you're like, I want to go to Cambodia.
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  But are they going to have the infrastructure?
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  They're not going to have any studios.
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  That's what I was thinking.
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  Coming here.
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  So I thought, maybe I'll just leave my life for.
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  Not to just worry about my safety.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  And just going to dance for myself.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  I was running.
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  I was like, I answered my question when I was thinking which one is me.
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  Right.
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  And I realized the one that in dance classes, it's me.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  The one that is acting.
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  It's not me.
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  And do you think looking back that your fear was a valid fear?
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  Or because sometimes we can be scared of something, but it's actually in our head.
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  Or do you think that the fear of the repercussions of you dancing publicly were real?
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  I think there is not the right answer to this.
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  It's yes and yes.
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  Okay.
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  Both ways.
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  Yeah.
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  As I said, as I mentioned, there is dance teachers doing the same.
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  So even crazier.
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  But they have this courage to do it.
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  Okay.
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  So I think for me, it's not about only dance classes.
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  It's just generally there is some things more than dance classes that I had to act.
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  Okay.
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  It's like the lifestyle.
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  Like I felt I am Kazakh, but I felt like some things are not happy with it.
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  Like.
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  Okay.
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  So how we are raised.
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  And then because I went to Kazakh school.
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  Okay.
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  So we thought to how to dress up.
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  How to act not to be loud.
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  Okay.
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  Not to be this.
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  Not to be that.
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  So there is so many rules.
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  Okay.
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  And it's a lot.
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  Yes.
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  And I was living like one day, I felt it's not normal.
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  That I have seen other places.
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  Did that.
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  Yes, because I traveled.
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  That's how I got like, why should should I do that?
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  Like I want to feel like in America.
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  Sure.
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  I feel I want to feel free.
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  I want to dress up nicely.
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  Yes.
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  I want to go crazy.
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  Because in our in our country, we have to.
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  Post of the colors.
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  Like I'm not seeing a lot of colors.
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  It's all the same.
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  When I moved to London.
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  Yeah.
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  I was like, why is everyone in black and gray?
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  So I'm moving from Jamaica, where we are color, even the houses.
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  So in Jamaica, you'll drive through.
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  Houses are all kind of color.
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  Green, yellow, blue, like whatever.
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  And then in England, they're all the same.
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  I said, what is going on with the colors of the houses?
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  Only to learn that you literally have to get planning permission to change the color of your own house.
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  Like you can't just paint your own house.
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  I paint.
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  Okay.
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  And so in terms of the color thing, I was just like, why is everybody just dead?
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  And for some people, it might be like, oh, it's just clothes.
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  But I think when you're in an environment and you see color, it does do something like to your spirit and your energy.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Because in Kazakhstan, it's not it's not only about the colors.
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  Like I would accept the colors.
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  It's fine.
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  The architecture is fine.
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  But the way how we see the life.
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  Okay.
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  Like I felt like all the same for me.
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  Maybe I was there.
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  I'm like, you know, if you met other Kazakhs, they can show you the other story.
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  But my story is this that whenever I went, whenever I talked to anyone, it felt all the same.
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  Okay.
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  All the same.
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  Even the taste, the music, the references they get, the things that they get inspired by.
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  All felt the same.
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  So it's like, I felt I have to follow them.
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  Right.
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  Because I was myself and I felt like, I like different things.
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  Yeah.
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  It's not about on different, but I felt not safe.
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  Okay.
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  And I didn't feel safe to show to my true colors, let's say yes.
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  I felt like I have to act certain way.
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  Maybe if I was myself and I could see, but I didn't have the courage to show myself.
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  Yeah.
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  Because I knew like there is Thailand, there is Cambodia, like countries like more in South Asia.
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  They're more open.
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  Right.
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  And less likely to judge.
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  Yes.
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  And still I'm a human, so I'm scared sometimes.
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  Right.
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  So it makes me scared.
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  So I felt I love Cambodia so much.
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  I love people how they're more open.
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  They, they don't judge, especially if you're a foreigner.
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  Right.
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  Cambodia, they don't judge.
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  They're like, she's a foreigner there.
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  Maybe that's just how they are.
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  Yeah.
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  And they just, they're so innocent.
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  So they don't judge you.
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  They just are curious to know why you're doing it.
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  You know, so moving here, it was the best decision.
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  It was the best decision.
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  Can you take me back to when you came to study?
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  Do you remember like arriving in Cambodia for the first time?
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  I remember.
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  Tell me.
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  I remember.
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  I went to Cihanna Quill.
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  It's a city near to the...
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  So we're in Pannam, there is a city Cihanna Quill.
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  Okay.
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  Yes, I was living there.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  So for me, I was always dreaming to live by seaside.
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  So it was like a dream to have a house and live in the seaside.
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  Right.
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  I only swam once.
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  Once.
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  I was so excited.
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  I went to a...
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  Yeah.
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  I was swimming to pictures and that's it.
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  And then I never come back again.
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  I was like, I was dreaming.
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  Yes.
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  It was my dream to live that life.
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  And then once I got it, I'm like...
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  One time.
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  One time.
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  Yeah.
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  But I really loved it.
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  Loved it only people.
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  Okay.
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  But at that time, there was a lot of construction going on.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  So I didn't see the beauty.
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  But I could feel the islands and...
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  Yeah.
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  It felt different.
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  And anything that makes me feel different, always excites me.
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  It's a good thing.
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  It's a good thing.
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  Yeah.
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  So I liked it.
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  At the same time, I didn't like it.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Because at that time, I was young.
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  And as I said...
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  At that time, you were young.
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  Sorry.
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  You're still young.
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  Younger.
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  That's my English.
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  Sorry.
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  You're a baby.
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  Well, baby.
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  Yeah.
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  When I was a more baby.
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  Yes.
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  So I felt life in a Kazakh way.
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  Okay.
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  I call it myself.
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  Yes.
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  My Kazakh version.
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  Yes.
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  And yeah, I was thinking how I'm going to be successful in this place.
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  It's more peaceful, quiet.
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  And I've met people.
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  The richest people I've met were in Santaquil.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  And they were saying we were working for 40 years in a huge company.
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  We got everything.
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  But we are here.
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  And think about it.
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  Because they wanted to give me a device.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  But I was like, no, something wrong with that.
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  Daily, they're lies.
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  I want to stress.
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  I want to success.
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  I need that.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  And maybe I stayed there for one and a half year.
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  Okay.
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  Yes.
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  And I went back to Kazakhstan.
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  Right.
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  I realized.
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  Okay.
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  They were right.
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  And maybe they gave me something more like they opened my eyes more to see.
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  Yes.
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  And definitely by talking with them.
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  It helped me a lot.
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  Once you realize that your passion was dancing, that's what you wanted to pursue.
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  And you tell your family, I'm leaving.
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  What is their reaction?
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  My family, as I said, they're so supportive.
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  Whatever I choose, they're like, if that makes you happy, go for it.
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  Amazing.
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  Yes.
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  I think that's why I'm a little bit.
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  Could feel the difference between me and my friends in Kazakhstan.
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  Because my family, when I was growing, they always said one thing.
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  If that makes you happy.
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  Okay.
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  Whatever you choose.
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  Are you an only child?
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  I am.
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  Is that visible?
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  Are you?
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  I am.
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  It's interesting.
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  It's also, I love that you acknowledge that having the support of that allows you the freedom
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  to kind of pursue what you want to do.
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  Because I think that sometimes people discuss things like, when we say people are brave or you have the courage to do something,
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  we speak about it as though it's just from within.
• 17:23
  And I tell people, for example, you know, I opened my first restaurant and I'd never worked in hospitality.
• 17:28
  I had no idea what the hell I was doing.
• 17:30
  And if my dad didn't give me permission to fail, I don't think I would have had the courage to do it.
• 17:35
  So I think it's really where some people might be like, oh, you're so brave.
• 17:38
  Yes, there's a level of bravery.
• 17:39
  I'm not saying that.
• 17:40
  But I'm saying there's a bigger picture that allows you to have the freedom to kind of exercise your bravery.
• 17:46
  And it sounds like similar.
• 17:47
  You have your family that said, do what?
• 17:50
  Like give you permission to explore whatever makes you happy.
• 17:54
  As an artist, I always give credits.
• 17:57
  So everything you see right now, it's because of my family, they support it.
• 18:03
  It's not, it's not financially.
• 18:05
  Sure.
• 18:06
  It's something that they give you insight.
• 18:08
  Like the, you know, so it's very important.
• 18:11
  And would you say that that freedom to explore is not necessarily a stereotypical experience in Kazakhstan?
• 18:20
  Definitely.
• 18:21
  Okay.
• 18:22
  Definitely, because the families, they are also, let's say in culture, culturally,
• 18:30
  Kazakhs are more likely to judge something common, even as, as we Kazakhs, we know this.
• 18:36
  So we have even a word to say his kid is better than mine.
• 18:40
  Really?
• 18:41
  Yes, it's a, did you see, did you see him or her?
• 18:44
  Yeah.
• 18:45
  Yes.
• 18:46
  So this way of thinking, it's like kind of cuts your,
• 18:51
  how to say ability to observe you already since you're young, you already know the steps.
• 18:59
  So you finish the school, you go to the university, which everyone wants to go.
• 19:04
  Okay.
• 19:05
  So you don't have a choice.
• 19:06
  Right.
• 19:07
  Yes.
• 19:08
  So it's in a way like an old style of thinking.
• 19:10
  I'm not saying for everyone.
• 19:11
  Sure.
• 19:12
  Of course, the environment I stayed was like that.
• 19:17
  Maybe I didn't see other parts of Kazakhstan, but I'm sure 90% of people will agree with me.
• 19:24
  That's the vibe.
• 19:25
  That's the vibe.
• 19:26
  When you first came to Cambodia, you knew that it was going to be a fixed amount of time and then go back, right?
• 19:30
  Because you were just doing this course.
• 19:33
  As I said, I was depressed at that time.
• 19:36
  Right.
• 19:37
  Yes.
• 19:38
  So I didn't have any plans.
• 19:39
  I was just like blindly calling on like, whatever life takes me.
• 19:44
  When you came the second time in your mind, you're coming to stay.
• 19:49
  Yes.
• 19:50
  Okay.
• 19:51
  I was planning to stay.
• 19:52
  Was there a difference between the two times, other than the fact that I appreciate the second time you're seeing more development, you're seeing like more infrastructure, but in terms of your feelings towards the country.
• 20:05
  Yes.
• 20:06
  I think that's the, that's why I'm happy right now.
• 20:08
  Okay.
• 20:10
  Before coming to Cambodia when I decided to leave here, I was in Kazakhstan, but I knew that I will be accepted by people here.
• 20:19
  Okay.
• 20:20
  So that really matters for me.
• 20:22
  Yes.
• 20:23
  So I knew whatever it's going to be in the jungle or in the city, I don't care.
• 20:27
  There's people that are going to accept me.
• 20:29
  Okay.
• 20:30
  So yeah.
• 20:31
  So I came here.
• 20:32
  That's, that was the best decision I said it.
• 20:34
  You've visited so many other places.
• 20:36
  I'm wondering what was it about Cambodia?
• 20:38
  Is it just the acceptance or were there other things about the country that made you choose here over say a Thailand?
• 20:45
  Because everyone seems to be wanting to run to Thailand.
• 20:49
  Yes.
• 20:50
  I also, I was about to study in Europe.
• 20:53
  Okay.
• 20:54
  That was the actual plan.
• 20:55
  Yes.
• 20:56
  But once I felt this is not for me, this, it seems like right.
• 21:00
  Even when I said Europe, it sounds more like right for people.
• 21:04
  Okay.
• 21:05
  But Cambodia has something that is unique from all the countries I visited.
• 21:13
  I visited more than 15 countries.
• 21:15
  It has something that makes you not be different, but makes you more question yourself.
• 21:24
  Okay.
• 21:25
  Not like in a bad way, but more like what do you want?
• 21:29
  What do you want to eat?
• 21:30
  It has more opportunities and it has more freedom to be yourself.
• 21:37
  Okay.
• 21:38
  Yes.
• 21:39
  And it starts with small things like what do you want for coffee or what do you want to eat?
• 21:44
  Who do you want to meet?
• 21:45
  Because it's a lot of different people.
• 21:46
  Right.
• 21:47
  And I think we all here going the same journey.
• 21:50
  Yeah.
• 21:51
  I feel like we all are asking ourselves like what do you want to do?
• 21:55
  Not like we are not surviving.
• 21:58
  That's different because all other countries they are surviving.
• 22:01
  They need money to pay for the rent.
• 22:04
  They need money to pay the bills or they have kids that they have responsibilities.
• 22:09
  Here, it feels like a summer camp.
• 22:14
  It's like we are all here for the vibe.
• 22:17
  And you can, you could feel the difference.
• 22:20
  And what I like about Cambodia, I feel there is not like English speaking people separate,
• 22:27
  Russian speaking people separate, Kazakhs people to separate,
• 22:30
  and my people come here to separate.
• 22:33
  We all are together.
• 22:34
  Okay.
• 22:35
  Yeah.
• 22:36
  We are all together.
• 22:37
  And that's why the Cambodians, they have huge respect that they accept.
• 22:41
  Because you have to start in certain way to remove your ego and to accept other people.
• 22:48
  Right.
• 22:49
  So it means they are more connected to their hearts.
• 22:52
  And it just feels, it feels good.
• 22:55
  It feels good living here.
• 22:57
  Yeah.
• 22:58
  When you just arrived, was there a point where you went from like this honeymoon period,
• 23:03
  although you still said you want summer camp.
• 23:06
  So I'm like, has that energy just sustained?
• 23:09
  How long have you been here?
• 23:11
  It's been one and a half year.
• 23:13
  Would you still say that the honeymoon period is still there?
• 23:17
  It's not that it gives, it's not the honeymoon period yet since the beginning because honeymoon,
• 23:22
  it means you have a short time of period that satisfies you, right?
• 23:26
  Yeah.
• 23:27
  But here it's different.
• 23:28
  It's the struggles you face here.
• 23:31
  Okay.
• 23:32
  It's, for example, it's more like in the car, you know, when you have an accident,
• 23:36
  you have like an impact.
• 23:38
  An impact.
• 23:39
  Yeah.
• 23:40
  So it's the same here.
• 23:41
  An impact is bigger.
• 23:42
  Right.
• 23:43
  So whenever you face, it feels less dramatic, less painful.
• 23:48
  Yes.
• 23:49
  And especially when you have people around you that you feel like we're all, all the same.
• 23:55
  It feels all the same and we're afraid even if you have small struggles,
• 23:59
  because we do it.
• 24:00
  That's life.
• 24:01
  It cannot be all pink, right?
• 24:02
  What are some of the struggles that you've had moving?
• 24:04
  Wow.
• 24:06
  Well, she would stay positive because it's a lot.
• 24:12
  It's really.
• 24:13
  Of course.
• 24:14
  Like what?
• 24:15
  Because when you're in your own country, you know everything.
• 24:19
  Yes.
• 24:20
  So you don't think about small things.
• 24:21
  And even when you don't know everything, you know someone who knows everything.
• 24:24
  Yes, exactly.
• 24:25
  That is the thing I miss the most.
• 24:26
  Whenever I'm living somewhere else, I'm like, if I don't have the answer in Jamaica,
• 24:30
  I know someone else who has the answer.
• 24:32
  So, whereas I don't know anybody over here, so boy.
• 24:35
  Yeah.
• 24:36
  So here, it was hard.
• 24:38
  It was hard.
• 24:39
  Because first, I saw there is no dance studios here.
• 24:42
  Okay.
• 24:43
  Second, I was already living as a full-time dance teacher.
• 24:47
  So I said, oh my god.
• 24:49
  Maybe I'm going to just eat rice and drink coffee.
• 24:52
  But whatever.
• 24:54
  Money doesn't matter.
• 24:56
  Passion.
• 24:57
  Let's go hard.
• 24:58
  They said it, right?
• 25:00
  So yeah, I came here the first week.
• 25:03
  I said, my friend's place and like the money was spending.
• 25:07
  So I felt now maybe it wasn't a good decision.
• 25:12
  Sure.
• 25:13
  Yeah.
• 25:14
  You have to be brave at the same time.
• 25:16
  Stupid.
• 25:17
  To do brave things.
• 25:18
  Yes.
• 25:19
  Yeah, it's a stupid decision, but I'm so happy that I did it.
• 25:22
  So I said, on my friend's place and the week later,
• 25:26
  I just posted that I'm looking for any type of rumor studio to dance myself.
• 25:31
  And I've met a person who offered me a full-time dance teacher.
• 25:35
  Really?
• 25:36
  So I was like, that's a sign.
• 25:38
  Yes.
• 25:39
  No way.
• 25:40
  Is this a movie or what's going on?
• 25:42
  You just posted on Facebook.
• 25:44
  I was looking in a Facebook.
• 25:45
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  In a Facebook, there is like, yeah, like a page where you can write all the questions.
• 25:50
  Like where do I find this?
• 25:51
  Where do I find that?
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  So I went to a coffee shop to meet him and we were talking.
• 25:57
  I'm like, oh my god, that's so fast.
• 25:59
  It's been only a week.
• 26:01
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  And then the next day, I was starting working already.
• 26:06
  Wow.
• 26:07
  Because there is not much for teachers here.
• 26:09
  Okay.
• 26:10
  Yes.
• 26:11
  That doing full-time.
• 26:12
  Okay.
• 26:13
  So yeah.
• 26:14
  So I was on the right time.
• 26:15
  Yeah.
• 26:16
  And since then, I'm a dance teacher.
• 26:18
  That's crazy.
• 26:19
  Yeah.
• 26:20
  When you came, did you bring savings?
• 26:21
  I did.
• 26:22
  Okay.
• 26:23
  So did you have like a deadline?
• 26:25
  If I don't have this sorted by this time, then I'm going to go home?
• 26:30
  Yes.
• 26:31
  Okay.
• 26:32
  Yes.
• 26:33
  What deadline had you given yourself?
• 26:35
  Maybe one half months.
• 26:37
  Okay.
• 26:38
  Yeah.
• 26:39
  It's not long.
• 26:40
  You want to be very nice to yourself.
• 26:41
  But I was more like to go to just to leave here.
• 26:45
  Okay.
• 26:46
  So I know it's for a rice and coffee.
• 26:50
  Yeah.
• 26:51
  Yeah.
• 26:52
  Yeah.
• 26:53
  Yeah.
• 26:54
  Yeah.
• 26:55
  Yeah.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  Yeah.
• 26:58
  Yeah.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 27:00
  Very cool.
• 27:01
  And then when you teach dance, what is the demand in terms of are you teaching?
• 27:06
  Young students are you teaching adults?
• 27:07
  What are you teaching?
• 27:08
  So when I came here, I started teaching as a ballet teacher for kids.
• 27:13
  Yes.
• 27:14
  Because I have a ballet background.
• 27:15
  Very cool.
• 27:16
  I was teaching dance classes here for adults, high heels.
• 27:20
  Okay.
• 27:21
  Yes.
• 27:22
  At that time, high heels weren't something wasn't a vibe going on here,
• 27:27
  because it was only few foreigners that would love to dance.
• 27:31
  Yes.
• 27:32
  And it was more focused on kids classes.
• 27:35
  Yes.
• 27:36
  And yes.
• 27:37
  How many times I said.
• 27:39
  And after a while, maybe after a year of build such an amazing community here,
• 27:45
  of dancers, because they are now a professional dancers,
• 27:48
  that now I'm fully focused on my adult classes.
• 27:52
  And I don't teach ballet classes anymore.
• 27:54
  Oh no, the point bubbles.
• 27:57
  Did you not really like teaching babies?
• 27:59
  I enjoyed a lot, but I think you need a certain experience to be able to talk to young,
• 28:07
  young humans, because they're more likely to observe a lot.
• 28:13
  So whenever if you come to the class and you have a certain energy,
• 28:16
  somehow kids, they feel it.
• 28:18
  Yes.
• 28:19
  You don't say anything, they feel it.
• 28:21
  Yes.
• 28:22
  And you have to be very careful.
• 28:24
  So it's not, you have more, you have to be more responsible.
• 28:28
  What you say, what you teach.
• 28:30
  I love that you realize that.
• 28:31
  Yeah.
• 28:32
  People parents need to hear it.
• 28:34
  Honestly, it's funny.
• 28:35
  I was talking to someone and I was like,
• 28:37
  this lady, she was cursing around her child.
• 28:40
  And don't get me wrong.
• 28:41
  My mouth can be dirty.
• 28:42
  But I rest of them, right?
• 28:43
  But around children, I would never think to speak, you know,
• 28:46
  the way I would speak.
• 28:47
  So an adult.
• 28:48
  And I was saying that it's not just the words.
• 28:50
  It's the energy, right?
• 28:51
  If you're angry and like, let's say I'm coming to you and I'm telling you a story
• 28:54
  about someone who annoyed me and I'm cursing,
• 28:57
  that energy around your child is not going to be healthy for them.
• 29:01
  And also, then it becomes normalized.
• 29:03
  That you live in a house where people show up and they're angry.
• 29:06
  I think so many people don't realize that it's not just, you know,
• 29:09
  what we're saying or doing.
• 29:10
  But it's like the energy of the room when it comes to children.
• 29:13
  True.
• 29:14
  But I think they realize, but it takes a lot of energy.
• 29:19
  So for example, if I go for a month, of course,
• 29:22
  I'm going to be a best teacher for them and a best teacher for their parents.
• 29:26
  But imagine working a year and you see them every day for five hours,
• 29:31
  let's say, and you start acting yourself.
• 29:33
  And we are not, let's say, the best way to handle our own emotions.
• 29:39
  Yes.
• 29:40
  But it's not only you, you're working with kids and they're waiting for you, right?
• 29:44
  They're, they're, they don't have this ability to know their emotions
• 29:49
  what they're going for, especially a dance you struggle a lot.
• 29:53
  Okay.
• 29:54
  You struggle a lot.
• 29:55
  You struggle a lot.
• 29:56
  Technique, yes.
• 29:57
  And when you dance, you're more likely close to get to yourself,
• 30:01
  because you always have to ask yourself what's going on.
• 30:04
  Why?
• 30:05
  I cannot do this.
• 30:06
  Like, you know, so it's a lot of talks in your head.
• 30:08
  Yeah.
• 30:09
  And young kids, they, when they do dance classes, they have the same talk as we.
• 30:12
  Yes.
• 30:13
  Maybe some of them are shy or maybe some of them think I'm not good enough.
• 30:17
  Right.
• 30:18
  And kids have this.
• 30:19
  Unfortunately, kids have this.
• 30:20
  Some sort of voices in their head.
• 30:23
  So when you teach for kids, it takes a lot of energy.
• 30:26
  Sure.
• 30:27
  A lot.
• 30:28
  Even though I love teaching, I don't think I'm the best.
• 30:30
  I represent it.
• 30:31
  Yeah.
• 30:32
  So when you say that when you dance and the challenges cause you to kind of.
• 30:40
  Be a lot more introspective, right?
• 30:42
  Yes.
• 30:43
  Like think about the inside.
• 30:44
  What has dance taught you about yourself?
• 30:47
  A lot.
• 30:48
  I wish I didn't see it.
• 30:51
  Yes.
• 30:52
  Because I remember when I stopped dancing, I had a picture of myself.
• 30:57
  Like, I'm so confident.
• 30:59
  Like, I can do anything.
• 31:00
  Oh, my God.
• 31:01
  I'm the prettiest.
• 31:02
  I'm that.
• 31:03
  I'm that.
• 31:04
  Yes.
• 31:05
  And then when I start dancing, first of all, you're in a room with other 30 women like you, right?
• 31:10
  And it's, you have a meter in front of you, which makes it worse sometimes because you can see you're not.
• 31:17
  You're not doing it right.
• 31:19
  Right.
• 31:20
  Yes.
• 31:21
  You cannot lie yourself that you're doing something right.
• 31:22
  But you see it.
• 31:23
  So you then it starts a talk.
• 31:25
  Okay.
• 31:26
  Why I'm not capable to do this.
• 31:28
  The answer may be all different.
• 31:31
  It can be to your confidence.
• 31:33
  Like, maybe I'm not good enough.
• 31:35
  Maybe I'm not the prettiest or maybe I'm just fat or maybe I'm too short or maybe the outfit is not good.
• 31:42
  Or it can be a technique.
• 31:45
  But to choose the other way, you have to be more professional.
• 31:50
  Right.
• 31:51
  And you have to divide when you are talking to yourself.
• 31:54
  Like first, if it's something about you or something that you can learn and study and become better.
• 32:00
  Yes.
• 32:01
  And most of the adults that come to my classes, I saw some of them that they were choosing the first option.
• 32:09
  Right.
• 32:10
  So even though I was there to support because it's a stress, it seems like all a fun experience.
• 32:17
  Unless it gets a little bit challenging.
• 32:20
  Right.
• 32:21
  So then it becomes not.
• 32:23
  So it's fun until it's not.
• 32:24
  Yeah.
• 32:25
  Yeah.
• 32:26
  And then they're like, I thought the dance is for fun.
• 32:28
  Like, yes.
• 32:29
  But you, you have to be to build your body.
• 32:34
  Right.
• 32:35
  To build nicely, to dance nicely.
• 32:37
  So then it gets a little struggle.
• 32:40
  But a teacher there to help your journey to become more softer, to support you and to build the confidence.
• 32:47
  Yeah.
• 32:48
  But before I was thinking to become a dance teacher, I didn't know all of these things.
• 32:52
  Right.
• 32:53
  I thought I'm just going to show the moves.
• 32:54
  Okay.
• 32:55
  Right.
• 32:56
  Maybe I'm going to help the moves.
• 32:57
  But I didn't thought it's going to go that deep.
• 32:59
  Maybe that's it now.
• 33:01
  Yeah.
• 33:02
  Is it through your own experience of forcing yourself to go deeper that you've now been able to recognize
• 33:09
  with other people that that's probably what's going to go.
• 33:12
  Not really, because I was dancing since I was a kid.
• 33:15
  Okay.
• 33:16
  And I also did gymnastics.
• 33:19
  Okay.
• 33:20
  So my vision of dance is different.
• 33:23
  Because I see it more like a proper lines, bodies, structure.
• 33:28
  Right.
• 33:29
  And the dance classes I give people sometimes they don't have a background in dance.
• 33:35
  Okay.
• 33:36
  So they face, they face different struggles.
• 33:39
  That's where I was thinking, because I, I didn't see their way, right?
• 33:44
  So it took a time, a lot of times to understand what they're going, going, experiencing what struggles
• 33:52
  they have.
• 33:53
  Yes.
• 33:54
  And once I realized, because it made me more mature in a way, because now, because as you, I
• 34:03
  talk a lot of people every day.
• 34:05
  So I meet different people.
• 34:07
  And I, certain way, the, like, develop to see people's potential.
• 34:13
  Sure.
• 34:14
  Or there's struggles.
• 34:15
  Even if they say it or dancing.
• 34:17
  Right.
• 34:18
  Yeah.
• 34:19
  So I could see, especially when they don't say, yes.
• 34:22
  And I'm, I'm there not to highlight their mistakes.
• 34:25
  I'm not there to highlight their struggles.
• 34:27
  I'm there to make it soft, easier.
• 34:30
  To make them to enjoy, to leave their room and to feel like, oh my God, is that me?
• 34:36
  Because that's the thing.
• 34:38
  When you start dancing, especially in my classes, you come just to dance.
• 34:41
  Right.
• 34:42
  Then you're like, okay, the teacher is going for that outfit.
• 34:45
  Maybe I should try something, right?
• 34:47
  But it takes a lot of process.
• 34:49
  Sure.
• 34:50
  It takes a lot of classes just to step up from your comfort zone.
• 34:54
  It, it sounds like so fast, but in reality, it takes a long time.
• 34:59
  Do you think your passion now is more in teaching or performing?
• 35:05
  Wow.
• 35:06
  I love that question.
• 35:09
  I was thinking just recently, I was thinking because I never thought I'm capable to teach.
• 35:16
  Okay.
• 35:17
  Yes.
• 35:18
  I was, my intention was to get money.
• 35:20
  Right.
• 35:21
  Yes, I was thinking I just need to survive.
• 35:23
  Yes.
• 35:24
  To get money from my dance classes, to be able to take classes.
• 35:28
  That's it.
• 35:29
  I was, I wasn't thinking that I could help so many women out there to get inspired.
• 35:34
  So now I would say I, I like it 50, 50.
• 35:41
  Okay.
• 35:42
  Yes.
• 35:43
  I cannot pick something you want.
• 35:44
  Sure.
• 35:45
  Because one is, when is one is missing, you have the other one.
• 35:48
  When the other one is missing, you have, so it's, yeah, I take energy from both ways.
• 35:53
  And in terms of for your own personal development, you said that you wanted to make the money so you could also take classes.
• 35:58
  Yes.
• 35:59
  Can you do that in Cambodia?
• 36:00
  And I'm not trying to be mean to Cambodia.
• 36:01
  I just don't know.
• 36:02
  Like when I think of dancers, I don't necessarily think, oh yeah, I'm going to come to Cambodia and get better.
• 36:08
  But I'm just interested in you being here.
• 36:11
  Are there opportunities in that space?
• 36:13
  For me, there is no, not opportunity.
• 36:17
  There's no opportunities for me because I'm not just the beginner.
• 36:22
  I'm already a professional dance teacher, dancer, and I have my own style.
• 36:27
  Right.
• 36:28
  So whenever I go to other teachers, I go someone that has my vision.
• 36:32
  Right.
• 36:33
  So it's harder because it makes your option less and less and less.
• 36:36
  There is some dance classes here. They are good.
• 36:38
  Right.
• 36:39
  But not for me.
• 36:40
  They're not in line with what you need.
• 36:41
  Yes.
• 36:42
  Yeah.
• 36:43
  Yeah.
• 36:44
  Yeah.
• 36:45
  So it is harder.
• 36:46
  At the same time, there is so many workshops.
• 36:47
  Okay.
• 36:48
  In Thailand, in Vietnam.
• 36:49
  So do you go elsewhere?
• 36:50
  Yes.
• 36:51
  Okay.
• 36:52
  I do.
• 36:53
  So you'll go to neighboring countries and do a workshop.
• 36:56
  Yeah.
• 36:57
  Do workshops.
• 36:58
  Okay.
• 36:59
  And the workshop teacher there from Australia, from America, over from Europe.
• 37:03
  Yes.
• 37:04
  Do you ever think, let me just go live in the country where there's the workshops all the time?
• 37:08
  I was thinking.
• 37:09
  Oh, I think you're so good too.
• 37:11
  We're having a session.
• 37:13
  Yes.
• 37:14
  You're like, okay, I got the way how she, I got her life.
• 37:18
  I got her journey.
• 37:19
  Yes.
• 37:20
  I was thinking, just recently, I was thinking, maybe should I move to Thailand or maybe
• 37:24
  should I move to Vietnam to leave there to pursue like my career full-time and.
• 37:30
  But no.
• 37:31
  Okay.
• 37:32
  No.
• 37:33
  No.
• 37:34
  No.
• 37:35
  Why?
• 37:36
  I'm going to stay here.
• 37:37
  Yes.
• 37:38
  Whatever it takes, it's going to be more harder to go somewhere to travel.
• 37:42
  But this is home.
• 37:43
  Yes.
• 37:44
  I'm staying here.
• 37:45
  Because of the people.
• 37:47
  It's not only the people.
• 37:48
  Okay.
• 37:49
  It's all the small things that makes a bigger picture.
• 37:53
  Okay.
• 37:54
  It's life.
• 37:55
  It's not just a year.
• 37:56
  It's every day, right?
• 37:57
  Yes.
• 37:58
  So it's the what you leave in every day.
• 38:00
  And every day, I enjoy living here.
• 38:02
  In every day, what you can do.
• 38:04
  Going, meeting people, getting taxi, going to the work, cleaning, paying your bills, anything
• 38:13
  that's small, gives you a bigger picture.
• 38:16
  And this small things, it's kind of a stress.
• 38:19
  Because you have to.
• 38:21
  I think anything is stress already for.
• 38:24
  And more for me, because I'm more artsy.
• 38:27
  Right.
• 38:28
  Yeah.
• 38:29
  So I'm more emotional.
• 38:30
  But even just from a career perspective, like don't get me wrong.
• 38:33
  If my children want to do something in the arts, I will 100% support them on the surface.
• 38:38
  I'll text you behind the scenes.
• 38:40
  I'm like, shit, why did they have to want to go and be creative?
• 38:43
  Just because I think it is, it's a harder path because it's not so easily defined.
• 38:48
  In the sense that if you tell me you want to be a doctor, I'm not saying that it's easy to be a doctor.
• 38:53
  But what I'm saying is I can understand the steps that my child needs to take in order to be a successful doctor.
• 38:59
  Right.
• 39:00
  Like I understand which schools they need to go to.
• 39:02
  I understand where they need to go and get an internship.
• 39:04
  It's just easier for my brain to understand.
• 39:06
  If they told me that they wanted to be a dancer, I was just like, it's so subjective.
• 39:11
  That's the other thing.
• 39:12
  Right.
• 39:13
  Like when you go into certain careers that are like exam based, you know, you need to score well on the exam.
• 39:19
  But with the arts, with the creative space, it's so dependent on opinions.
• 39:25
  It's also just not clear.
• 39:27
  And that would scare me.
• 39:28
  So, but I would be very conscious.
• 39:30
  In the same way, you're like, oh, with students that are kids, you need to be aware of your energy.
• 39:35
  100% I'd be aware of my energy that I'm not trying to steal my baby's dream.
• 39:39
  But I'm telling you as an adult, I would be so scared because I just think it would be harder.
• 39:44
  I mean, it's hard for me now.
• 39:45
  I don't know what I'm doing in this like creative space, whereas I did a law degree last year.
• 39:51
  Random.
• 39:52
  I just.
• 39:53
  Yeah.
• 39:54
  Basically, after I had my kids, my uncle reminded me that I always said I was going to be a lawyer.
• 39:59
  And I thought how crazy would it be to just have twins reopen a restaurant and then do a law degree?
• 40:04
  Like that would be mad, right?
• 40:05
  So then I was like, cool, let's do that then.
• 40:07
  Because then when my girls get older, and they tell me that they can't do something.
• 40:12
  Babes.
• 40:13
  Babes.
• 40:14
  Wrong audience.
• 40:15
  All moms are the same.
• 40:16
  Literally, right?
• 40:17
  And so I've thought about this in terms of the pursuit of a career in a creative space.
• 40:22
  And I think is it a case of your passion is so strong that it doesn't matter if you fail.
• 40:29
  Like, do you genuinely believe that?
• 40:30
  Do you think that if you didn't reach the heights?
• 40:33
  First of all, what is success?
• 40:35
  That's a backtrack.
• 40:36
  What does being a successful dancer mean to you?
• 40:41
  For me.
• 40:42
  Yeah.
• 40:43
  I think I'm already successful.
• 40:45
  Okay.
• 40:46
  Okay.
• 40:47
  Let's start from this because I think I have more opportunities than some people.
• 40:56
  Why I'm saying this?
• 40:57
  Because it can be so basic.
• 41:00
  But I think I can feel whenever I say this.
• 41:02
  It's home, food, the body that I'm capable to touch, feel.
• 41:09
  I have all my five senses.
• 41:11
  And I'm doing something that I really like.
• 41:14
  So what I need from life.
• 41:16
  I am successful because every day I think I'm just doing a dance teacher.
• 41:22
  Right?
• 41:23
  And it's crazy for me because when I was a kid, I wouldn't imagine myself teaching.
• 41:28
  I wouldn't imagine myself.
• 41:29
  Yes, I thought I'm going to be the same like a lawyer, whatever.
• 41:33
  A serious job.
• 41:34
  So I don't have to be serious.
• 41:37
  I'm not serious right now.
• 41:38
  I'm a fan.
• 41:39
  I'm creative.
• 41:40
  And I like that.
• 41:41
  Really enjoy that.
• 41:42
  But talking about your kids.
• 41:44
  Yes.
• 41:45
  And about being creative and artistic people.
• 41:49
  I think artistic people are the strongest people.
• 41:52
  Yeah, are strong because you don't have limits.
• 41:57
  So whenever you say a doctor, a lawyer, you have a certain way of box.
• 42:02
  Not a box.
• 42:03
  Let's say a way that you have, let's say, to shape it in that way to achieve something.
• 42:09
  But creative, it means you get wider.
• 42:11
  So you don't have something to touch to feel that makes you going to shape in a way.
• 42:15
  You have to always to follow your instincts.
• 42:19
  So makes you more emotional.
• 42:23
  Because you always, you don't know what to catch.
• 42:26
  You don't know, you don't have the tools to make you a better dancer or creative.
• 42:32
  Because the dancer, it's not about the movements.
• 42:34
  Because now I got the vibe.
• 42:36
  I got the vibe when I talk to people that are not dancing.
• 42:39
  So dancing, it's not something you do the moves perfectly.
• 42:42
  It's not something you look good visually.
• 42:47
  It has a vision.
• 42:48
  Everything comes from a vision.
• 42:50
  And vision comes from the way how you see life, the way how you feel.
• 42:54
  So a dancer means he took a long time to observe, to feel, to express.
• 43:01
  It makes you stronger.
• 43:03
  Yes.
• 43:04
  At the same time, you are so emotional, right?
• 43:08
  Because you don't have, as I said, the tools, the shape.
• 43:11
  There's, yeah.
• 43:12
  So we're not like an army.
• 43:13
  We don't go to a dance school and then become like a robot doing the perfect moves.
• 43:18
  Right.
• 43:19
  It's, it's a lot.
• 43:20
  What inspires your dance?
• 43:22
  My dance.
• 43:24
  That sounds crazy.
• 43:26
  Because I've never heard someone saying, as a dance teacher, I watch the other dancers.
• 43:30
  Okay.
• 43:31
  Talking the interiors.
• 43:32
  And I've never heard my answer, which makes me worried.
• 43:36
  I'm like, should I go to a psychologist?
• 43:40
  It's going to be so funny, but lines.
• 43:43
  Lions.
• 43:44
  Architecture.
• 43:45
  Okay.
• 43:46
  Yes.
• 43:47
  It's so really.
• 43:48
  Yeah.
• 43:49
  In more way.
• 43:50
  That's the thing.
• 43:51
  When I was in Europe, I saw some buildings and I saw the lines and I'm like.
• 43:57
  Is there, I feel sorry.
• 43:59
  It makes me feel something.
• 44:01
  Yes.
• 44:02
  And then it made sense after three years when I started teaching.
• 44:06
  I realized I like certain moves that requires muscles.
• 44:10
  Right.
• 44:11
  Yes.
• 44:12
  And the, the lines gives me.
• 44:14
  So there is an option if you dance a small or you make your movements big.
• 44:18
  Sure.
• 44:19
  And I like to imagine my movements as a, as a building in a way.
• 44:23
  Yeah.
• 44:24
  I hope it makes sense.
• 44:26
  I mean, it's surprising.
• 44:27
  I didn't know that's where you're going.
• 44:29
  But, but I get it.
• 44:30
  I mean, as far as surprising.
• 44:31
  It's all like what's going on.
• 44:32
  Is this.
• 44:33
  That's very cool.
• 44:35
  What does your day to day look like?
• 44:37
  So how often do you teach?
• 44:40
  Uh, now I teach maybe five, six times per week.
• 44:45
  Okay.
• 44:46
  Oh, before I used to teach maybe 20 classes per week.
• 44:49
  20.
• 44:50
  20.
• 44:51
  Okay.
• 44:52
  Maybe 15.
• 44:53
  Yeah.
• 44:54
  For a week.
• 44:55
  Because I was teaching adults and kids.
• 44:56
  I chose them right.
• 44:57
  But now I have only five class only.
• 44:59
  But in Cambodia, it's a lot.
• 45:01
  Okay.
• 45:02
  Because none of the dances here have so much opportunities for time to do.
• 45:07
  Yes.
• 45:08
  So I'm doing five, six classes.
• 45:10
  I'm also doing private classes.
• 45:12
  I do projects.
• 45:13
  Okay.
• 45:14
  Yes.
• 45:15
  I'm doing my own projects.
• 45:16
  Or I get invited to like today.
• 45:19
  Yeah.
• 45:20
  So my day looks like, uh, first of all, I order the best coffee.
• 45:26
  Why the best goods is cheap?
• 45:28
  It's only one dollar and the lady that gives me coffee.
• 45:31
  She's amazing.
• 45:32
  Yeah.
• 45:33
  Yeah, I love her.
• 45:34
  It's so I ordered at the same place.
• 45:38
  And then I just do my makeup outfit and then create choreography.
• 45:47
  Okay.
• 45:48
  I go to the studio.
• 45:49
  Sometimes I take classes here, my own.
• 45:51
  Okay.
• 45:52
  Yes.
• 45:53
  And then I give classes.
• 45:55
  It takes maybe three hours.
• 45:56
  Sometimes the longest was three hours.
• 45:59
  Yes.
• 46:00
  And that's it.
• 46:01
  I met my students.
• 46:02
  I talk, um, make videos.
• 46:04
  And then I edit the videos at home.
• 46:06
  Okay.
• 46:07
  Right.
• 46:08
  I enjoy it.
• 46:09
  Editing.
• 46:10
  Editing.
• 46:11
  Editing.
• 46:12
  Yeah.
• 46:13
  And then yeah, that's it.
• 46:14
  That's how my daily life looks like.
• 46:16
  Has your family visited you here in Cambodia?
• 46:18
  They are, they're living here now.
• 46:20
  They live here.
• 46:21
  They live here only.
• 46:22
  I was thinking where did it.
• 46:23
  I didn't know that was happening.
• 46:24
  Yes.
• 46:25
  As I said, everything.
• 46:27
  I'm only child.
• 46:28
  Yeah.
• 46:29
  So your parents live here?
• 46:30
  Yes.
• 46:31
  They live here.
• 46:32
  It's amazing.
• 46:33
  It is amazing.
• 46:34
  When did they move?
• 46:35
  But it wasn't like this.
• 46:36
  I just, I wasn't a family person till this year.
• 46:39
  This year.
• 46:40
  Yeah.
• 46:41
  I was living in Russia and other countries my own.
• 46:43
  Okay.
• 46:44
  Starting from 1415.
• 46:45
  Okay.
• 46:46
  And this is the only year when I realized, oh my god, my family is my best friends.
• 46:50
  You know what?
• 46:51
  I got it.
• 46:53
  Yeah.
• 46:54
  Everyone talks a lot about the Cambodian family structure being like really important.
• 46:58
  Yeah.
• 46:59
  Do you think that that influenced your perception and your relationships with your own family?
• 47:03
  Well, I think in Kazakhstan, we also have a very strong, strong, strong way, the way family.
• 47:09
  Family, okay.
• 47:10
  We are very, very, very orientated.
• 47:11
  Kids and family.
• 47:12
  Okay.
• 47:13
  So there is two, three things.
• 47:14
  Kids, family, and how successful you are.
• 47:17
  Okay.
• 47:18
  Yeah.
• 47:19
  So family comes first.
• 47:20
  Yes.
• 47:21
  Right.
• 47:22
  It's also family-oriented country because everyone goes with the family, with the group.
• 47:28
  10, 15 people.
• 47:29
  Yes.
• 47:30
  But I wasn't like that.
• 47:31
  Okay.
• 47:32
  I'm very, very different from my family.
• 47:35
  I like to be alone, solo, I don't call, don't text.
• 47:40
  Maybe once, you know, two months, I call my own and like, you know, so how do they end up moving here?
• 47:47
  They end up moving here because they also like Cambodia.
• 47:49
  We traveled, yes, we traveled together.
• 47:52
  When we visited Cambodia for the first time, it was with my family.
• 47:56
  Right.
• 47:57
  Yeah.
• 47:58
  And they just love it here as well.
• 48:00
  Yeah.
• 48:01
  I think by meeting people here in Cambodia, you will notice that everyone may be similar, they say similar things about Cambodia.
• 48:10
  Yeah.
• 48:11
  That every, what's the, the main thing everyone feels good.
• 48:16
  Right.
• 48:17
  So we wouldn't stay here if it didn't feel good.
• 48:19
  I think there's a similarity that I have seen that there's a lot of people who are comfortable by themselves who moved to Cambodia.
• 48:26
  Yeah.
• 48:27
  Like everyone says that in the same way that you've just described like, I was fine being by myself.
• 48:31
  There seems to be, I think the word isolated sometimes gets a negative connotation.
• 48:37
  And I don't mean it negatively.
• 48:38
  I got it.
• 48:39
  But I think people, a lot of the people that I have spoken to who are moving to Cambodia, they're really comfortable just in their own like secluded space.
• 48:49
  I would say differently.
• 48:51
  Okay.
• 48:52
  Okay.
• 48:53
  I would say differently.
• 48:55
  Not isolated.
• 48:57
  But we came here as isolated because we came here from different countries.
• 49:05
  When something didn't work for us in our countries, it might be at least for my surroundings.
• 49:10
  And when we came here, we're isolated at the same time, we are not forced to change it.
• 49:15
  We're not forced to change our world, not the way we live.
• 49:20
  We're not forced to change the way that we follow certain rules or we have to act certain ways.
• 49:27
  We're just so many different worlds living here.
• 49:30
  And the thing is, when you say isolated means you don't connect, you don't observe, you don't express with people, but people here are more likely to be connected with people rather than in other countries.
• 49:43
  Because we feel no pressure.
• 49:46
  When you are connecting, you know that this person lives his own world.
• 49:50
  So you're not forced to, I will explain.
• 49:53
  For example, I had a problem with Kazakhstan.
• 49:57
  My friends, they already have babies.
• 50:00
  So what can I talk about?
• 50:02
  A dance classes would be boring for them.
• 50:04
  They would be not interested.
• 50:06
  At least I could feel, right?
• 50:08
  Or coming here, people are interested because they have their own world and they know they're like solo.
• 50:17
  So they're like, what do you got?
• 50:20
  I'm like, my dance classes.
• 50:21
  And they're like, really?
• 50:22
  What is that?
• 50:23
  What's going on?
• 50:24
  And they would come to my dance classes to try.
• 50:28
  And I would ask for them what you do.
• 50:29
  And they're like, modeling or DJ.
• 50:31
  I would never question a DJ in Kazakhstan what he does.
• 50:34
  Oh really?
• 50:35
  I would be like, it's a DJ.
• 50:37
  I have my friends.
• 50:38
  I said, right.
• 50:39
  What are you doing?
• 50:40
  It's like a DJ.
• 50:41
  I'm like, for what?
• 50:42
  And I could feel different worlds here.
• 50:45
  The fact that your parents are here.
• 50:47
  Has that changed your experience of Cambodia?
• 50:49
  Because for some people, being away from their norm, their comfort zone is liberating.
• 50:56
  And I just wonder if your experience living here has changed at all since now your family is here?
• 51:03
  Well, I was living here alone as well in Cambodia and my family were in Kazakhstan.
• 51:10
  Right.
• 51:11
  And now we're together.
• 51:12
  And there was other countries where I lived alone.
• 51:15
  And yes, it is frustrating.
• 51:19
  It is hard at the beginning.
• 51:21
  Okay.
• 51:22
  But once you got the comfort zone.
• 51:23
  And you get your rhythm.
• 51:24
  Yeah, you got your freedom.
• 51:25
  You got your rhythm.
• 51:26
  You would never, never sell your freedom for something.
• 51:30
  Yes.
• 51:31
  And Cambodia is more, as I said, more makes your journey soft.
• 51:37
  So it kind of protects you.
• 51:39
  Okay.
• 51:40
  But people right here, right here, people here, they also, they are also alone.
• 51:47
  Okay.
• 51:48
  So they don't, some of them don't have families here.
• 51:51
  So we built a family here.
• 51:54
  Yeah.
• 51:55
  So your friends don't become your family, but they are more likely to do what family do for you.
• 52:02
  Sure.
• 52:03
  Yeah.
• 52:04
  So they're not going to be there 24 seven, right?
• 52:06
  So whenever you need them, one call, they're there.
• 52:10
  They're there for you.
• 52:11
  And you don't even need the call because you could feel the.
• 52:15
  That there's something.
• 52:16
  There is something.
• 52:17
  Yeah.
• 52:18
  You could feel the support.
• 52:19
  And in other countries that I lived, I didn't feel that way.
• 52:21
  Okay.
• 52:22
  Yeah, I felt alone.
• 52:23
  I felt like, oh my god, I'm struggling a lot.
• 52:26
  I need my family.
• 52:27
  I need my help.
• 52:28
  Yes.
• 52:29
  But here, it's, it's easier.
• 52:31
  Is there anything culturally that you had to get your head around in those earlier, like months when you just moved?
• 52:39
  Sitting in like culturally.
• 52:40
  Yeah.
• 52:41
  That was very different in Cambodian culture that you had to adjust yourself because a lot of times, you know, we're in this age where people are moving a lot more than they did.
• 52:50
  And you have a certain type of person who, when they moved to someone else's country, they expect that country to change to kind of suit them.
• 52:59
  You don't have that energy at all.
• 53:00
  Your energy says, I know that I'm coming to your country and I'm going to adjust so that I make it work.
• 53:05
  And I'm just wondering, were there any things that you had to kind of change your way of thinking or your mindset because you appreciated that this is the Cambodian way?
• 53:13
  Yes.
• 53:14
  Okay.
• 53:15
  Oh, that's a good question, too.
• 53:16
  I like it.
• 53:17
  But why is that surprise?
• 53:18
  You don't think I can come up with some good questions?
• 53:20
  I'm just enjoying our talk.
• 53:22
  Oh, I didn't thought I, I love to talk.
• 53:26
  Give me more time to talk.
• 53:28
  Yes, I struggled.
• 53:31
  I have this bad habit in me.
• 53:34
  I hurry.
• 53:35
  Okay.
• 53:36
  Even though I've never beyond time, but I hurry.
• 53:39
  Right.
• 53:40
  Right.
• 53:41
  And when you hurry, I realized that's where I got the depression from because you hurry.
• 53:45
  You don't leave your life.
• 53:46
  You're like fast, fast and you get yourself in a stress out of nowhere.
• 53:50
  Yeah.
• 53:51
  Where you could start a time management to proper like structure your time properly.
• 53:59
  Yeah.
• 54:00
  And here in Cambodia, there is no time management.
• 54:03
  Okay.
• 54:04
  But there is more to do everything slowly.
• 54:07
  Okay.
• 54:08
  Just slowly.
• 54:09
  Yes.
• 54:10
  And at that time, it was very, very annoying for me because I'm the person who needs to see people are working.
• 54:20
  I need to see the callus.
• 54:21
  I need to see them struggling a little bit.
• 54:24
  So I could feel they're also putting their all energy into it.
• 54:28
  That's how I thought.
• 54:29
  But here, people love to do it, but they are not going to die for it.
• 54:34
  You don't have to give part of you every day just to do what you like.
• 54:39
  Sure.
• 54:40
  They're taking everything slowly.
• 54:41
  Yeah.
• 54:42
  So they're like more emotionally intelligent.
• 54:46
  They're more slowly and they have time.
• 54:49
  I feel like they don't need to put things when you have, for example, a space.
• 54:57
  When we talk, we don't have a time when we are just take part.
• 55:01
  Sure.
• 55:02
  But when you talk to Cambodians, they can be quiet for 10 minutes.
• 55:06
  Yeah.
• 55:07
  And it's crazy.
• 55:08
  Yes.
• 55:09
  But it's not only about the talk, but the way of how you leave.
• 55:12
  Because when you do nothing in a home, is there anyone who is sitting at home like for 13 minutes like this?
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  Not right?
• 55:19
  No.
• 55:20
  That's the thing.
• 55:21
  Isn't it crazy?
• 55:22
  How we never stop to do anything?
• 55:24
  Even the phone.
• 55:25
  You're still doing something.
• 55:26
  Yeah.
• 55:27
  You're working.
• 55:28
  And I think that's why we sleep.
• 55:30
  Not good.
• 55:31
  But people here, they have a very good, good sleeping schedule.
• 55:36
  They go to bed at nine.
• 55:38
  Wake up at five a.m.
• 55:39
  Okay.
• 55:40
  Yes.
• 55:41
  And one morning at five in the morning.
• 55:42
  Yeah.
• 55:43
  And the morning.
• 55:44
  Wow.
• 55:45
  Their morning starts at five at six.
• 55:47
  Okay.
• 55:48
  Six to nine.
• 55:49
  Because my morning starts at 11.
• 55:51
  10, 11 and then 12, lunch.
• 55:53
  That's it.
• 55:54
  Right.
• 55:55
  I had two hours for morning.
• 55:57
  Yeah.
• 55:58
  And I just realized I was observing.
• 56:01
  And they're like, they could sit.
• 56:02
  They could talk.
• 56:03
  And it feels very slowly.
• 56:05
  And it feels good.
• 56:07
  But at the same time, I don't think I am that kind of person.
• 56:10
  But I still need the movements.
• 56:13
  I need to still the energy, let's say.
• 56:16
  Yeah.
• 56:17
  And I'm still learning.
• 56:18
  Yeah.
• 56:19
  And I hope one day I could just feel just see.
• 56:23
  Yeah.
• 56:24
  I mean, I'm with you.
• 56:25
  I believe in it.
• 56:26
  But I'm not sure how easy I would be able to do it.
• 56:29
  I think it makes complete sense.
• 56:31
  And I agree with you 100% on the rushing.
• 56:33
  The rushing also starts from like kids.
• 56:36
  I see people all the time.
• 56:37
  Everything is rushing.
• 56:38
  I don't need to rush anywhere.
• 56:40
  And it's funny in like.
• 56:42
  When my daughter, she's trying to open the door like to the hotel.
• 56:45
  And so she's using the key.
• 56:46
  Yeah.
• 56:47
  And she's struggling.
• 56:48
  So it's taken a bit of time.
• 56:50
  And everyone's like, okay, well, I'll just do it.
• 56:52
  And I'm like, no, she's not getting frustrated.
• 56:55
  Right.
• 56:56
  So let her in her own time.
• 56:57
  If she's frustrated, then we can help.
• 56:59
  And eventually she opens the door.
• 57:00
  It took about 20 minutes.
• 57:01
  But she eventually opens the door.
• 57:03
  And she's super happy.
• 57:04
  And where are we going?
• 57:05
  We're just going inside a hotel room.
• 57:07
  We're rushing inside to go into the hotel room.
• 57:10
  But I think that again, maybe it's like a Western influence thing.
• 57:14
  This idea that we always have to kind of be productive and moving.
• 57:18
  In the UK, it rushing is a thing.
• 57:21
  Even the way people walk on the sidewalk.
• 57:23
  It's just still.
• 57:24
  It feels like you could tell they have somewhere to go to go.
• 57:28
  And they probably have nowhere to go.
• 57:30
  Maybe.
• 57:32
  Do you love food?
• 57:33
  How's food?
• 57:34
  Do you like food?
• 57:35
  Or is food not a big deal in your life?
• 57:37
  I love food.
• 57:38
  Yeah.
• 57:39
  And come on, they have all the foods.
• 57:40
  All the cultures.
• 57:41
  I was surprised how much international food is here.
• 57:44
  Yeah.
• 57:45
  What is food from your home country?
• 57:47
  Do you have a national dish?
• 57:48
  We do.
• 57:49
  It's called Besparmak.
• 57:50
  Okay.
• 57:51
  So it means you have five fingers.
• 57:54
  And you eat your food with five fingers.
• 57:56
  Okay.
• 57:57
  Yeah, it's made from meat.
• 57:59
  And like pasta, let's say.
• 58:01
  Yeah.
• 58:02
  And it's very oily.
• 58:04
  Okay.
• 58:05
  And we eat everything with meat.
• 58:07
  Right.
• 58:08
  So if there is a salad, it should be with meat.
• 58:10
  Yeah.
• 58:11
  If there is no meat, it means you're not eating.
• 58:13
  Yeah.
• 58:14
  So you do well here because there's meat everywhere.
• 58:17
  I eat everything.
• 58:18
  Okay.
• 58:19
  Yeah.
• 58:20
  I eat everything.
• 58:21
  And I enjoy local food.
• 58:23
  Okay.
• 58:24
  I enjoy it a lot because it's rice.
• 58:26
  It's a little bit of meat.
• 58:28
  Egg and vegetables.
• 58:30
  Yeah.
• 58:31
  If you were describing life abroad, not necessarily Cambodia, but someone who is curious
• 58:37
  about moving, what would you say to them?
• 58:40
  Just in general.
• 58:41
  Yeah.
• 58:42
  I think talking about the box, this is the way you could see that there is other worlds.
• 58:52
  There is other people.
• 58:55
  Because when you live in one country, you see the same people.
• 58:58
  Okay.
• 58:59
  The stories might be a little bit different, but it's not going to change a perception
• 59:03
  of how you see your life.
• 59:06
  When you travel, you're going to meet a new version of yourself.
• 59:11
  So in different countries, I found myself different because my different personality
• 59:16
  is pop up.
• 59:17
  And it's not something I already had in me.
• 59:20
  Some of them, yes, but some of them, they just build it like the confidence.
• 59:24
  And come out of nowhere, right?
• 59:26
  You build it.
• 59:27
  So the same, you build a new version of yourself.
• 59:30
  And that's why people love to travel.
• 59:32
  Because when you travel, even if you stay in your hotel, but you see new buildings,
• 59:38
  you see new faces.
• 59:39
  And somehow you start to see the difference.
• 59:42
  And you talk.
• 59:44
  Everyone talks in their head.
• 59:45
  And they see what makes that difference.
• 59:48
  This plays why it's different from my country.
• 59:50
  Sure.
• 59:51
  Why people, they walk fast in London, then in my hometown.
• 59:55
  Right.
• 59:56
  So you think you start to think a lot.
• 59:59
  You start to enjoy life more.
• 1:00:02
  You people love new.
• 1:00:05
  They just love new.
• 1:00:07
  And by, we were talking about brushing, I think, yeah, because people
• 1:00:11
  they don't want to accept what they have now.
• 1:00:13
  They just want something.
• 1:00:15
  They want it.
• 1:00:16
  And travel, it's the best.
• 1:00:18
  It's when you travel, everything is new.
• 1:00:21
  You got the excitement.
• 1:00:22
  You got the adrenaline.
• 1:00:23
  You got all the goosebumps.
• 1:00:25
  It feels like a honeymoon.
• 1:00:27
  Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  How are you different, the Cambodian version of you?
• 1:00:32
  The Cambodian version of me.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  I don't say Cambodian version of me.
• 1:00:36
  I say when I speak English, it's a different version of me.
• 1:00:39
  Yes.
• 1:00:40
  Okay.
• 1:00:41
  Tell me how you're different speaking English.
• 1:00:43
  So in English, I'm more fun.
• 1:00:46
  I'm more fun.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, I'm more like a confident, sexy and very cool.
• 1:00:52
  Fine.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Going out, extrovert.
• 1:00:55
  When I speak my language, I become the strict woman you've ever seen in your life.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah.
• 1:01:02
  I'm like a teacher, like a proper teacher.
• 1:01:04
  I wouldn't talk.
• 1:01:05
  I wouldn't smile.
• 1:01:06
  I don't know why.
• 1:01:07
  It's just crazy.
• 1:01:08
  And that's really interesting.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Is there anything that you would have wanted to talk about or touch on that we haven't had in this conversation?
• 1:01:15
  Well, I would like to say welcome to Cambodia.
• 1:01:19
  I think it's going to change.
• 1:01:23
  It's going to add something more in your journey, because there is, as I said, we traveled a lot.
• 1:01:31
  And when I was talking to people, locals or foreigners in different countries, I would learn.
• 1:01:37
  I would take something, right?
• 1:01:39
  In Cambodia, it's very unique.
• 1:01:41
  It's very unique culture and people that live here are very unique.
• 1:01:46
  And even if their energy is different, but once you get to know their stories, it would, in a way, inspire you.
• 1:01:54
  Or it feels, I would describe it as a movie.
• 1:01:58
  It feels like you're living a life in a movie where everything feels not real, because it feels good.
• 1:02:06
  Yes.
• 1:02:07
  Especially when you come from the country where you struggled.
• 1:02:11
  So it feels like it feels not boring.
• 1:02:17
  But it feels you cannot believe that it's something good could happen so fast, so quick, we're just coming here.
• 1:02:26
  And I'm really glad that you came here.
• 1:02:29
  I appreciate that you invited me.
• 1:02:32
  One question.
• 1:02:33
  If you're a life with a postcard, what would the picture be?
• 1:02:36
  A postcard.
• 1:02:37
  Yep.
• 1:02:38
  What is a postcard?
• 1:02:39
  So you send back in the day, you are very young.
• 1:02:41
  You send, you used to travel, you'd buy a card and it has like a picture.
• 1:02:45
  So you might have like the big band in London, or you might have Monument Square here.
• 1:02:49
  But if you had to sum up your entire life into one photo, what would the picture look like?
• 1:02:54
  Wow, a picture of myself, right?
• 1:02:56
  If you want, some people don't put themselves in there.
• 1:03:00
  Can I put everything?
• 1:03:01
  You can put anything.
• 1:03:02
  All of it.
• 1:03:03
  I'm feeling everything.
• 1:03:05
  Would you be dancing in the picture to sum up your life?
• 1:03:09
  I would be showing my favorite pose.
• 1:03:12
  Dancing is okay, but I'm like, I want to be pretty in my postcard.
• 1:03:17
  Are you on the beach?
• 1:03:19
  Are you in a city?
• 1:03:22
  For sure, there should be elephant.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, because I feel Cambodia.
• 1:03:26
  So, you know, a postcard makes sense.
• 1:03:29
  Me, next to the elephant, maybe I'm fitting it.
• 1:03:34
  Okay.
• 1:03:35
  Lots of, maybe in the jungle.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah, in the jungle.
• 1:03:39
  Because I love nature.
• 1:03:41
  I love nature a lot.
• 1:03:42
  And I really want to put Montagne.
• 1:03:45
  Don't question.
• 1:03:46
  Jungle Montagne.
• 1:03:47
  Yes, that's how I feel.
• 1:03:48
  You can have everything you want to be.
• 1:03:49
  I feel like it gives the, a wild life.
• 1:03:52
  Like, I don't know.
• 1:03:53
  Colorful.
• 1:03:54
  Amazing.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Thank you very, very much.
• 1:03:57
  Thank you for having me.