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- 0:04Thank you for listening to de Pictures Media Radio. You rat you readything to
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- 1:26he suess events. Lay More started her life in Hawaii in early adulthood.
- 1:45She married and had two sons. After divorcing their father, she traveled with
- 1:49them to Russia. Returning to the US, she and her two sons attended
- 1:57college and graduated on the same stage, she with her masters and he with
- 2:09a Bachelor's of Science. She remarried and moved back to Hawaii. Volunteering through
- 2:17the twenty eighteen Kilauea eruption that displaced over one thousand people. She began using
- 2:27her listening skills and as an intuitive coach, guiding people through life changing trauma
- 2:37to find their dream life. She has also used her her stories of near
- 2:47death experiences and shared death experiences to help people find their focus and their purpose
- 2:59so that they can continue to live greatness in their lives. So welcome to
- 3:36the show, and it's a you've had some really fantastic experiences that join you
- 3:45back to our community and help people learn to live like that really full,
- 3:52purpose filled life and everything. So why don't you tell us a little bit
- 3:55about those three experiences that you had. Okay, well, the first experience
- 4:03was when I was twenty one. It was immediately after the birth of my
- 4:08second son. The birth had been well, the the pregnancy had been okay.
- 4:15He was he was active, but everything was fine. And when he
- 4:19was when I was in labor, he was results in my stomach and the
- 4:26people around me, and I don't for anything that happened to keep reaching up
- 4:31inside of me and turning around that he will be breached so that he wouldn't
- 4:35have chords wrapped around him. This is extremely painful. I do not suggest
- 4:44having if you can avoid it. But in that process, because it was
- 4:49so it wasn't a time for he thought, you know, it was moved,
- 4:56moved, moved right now. I met. Iaged to come down after
- 5:01a very high fever and an infection throughout that part of my body, but
- 5:05it spread to most of my body and the fever at one point I read
- 5:11the thermometer at one hundred and seven. So I was in the hospital on
- 5:16the bed, laying there not doing anything. One hundred and eleven you're not
- 5:21really moving much. And I sat up in my bed and I looked behind
- 5:29me and there's my body on the head. It didn't feel painful, it
- 5:35didn't feel disconcerting at all. In fact, it was extremely peaceful and joyful.
- 5:44Then I floated up into a very dark would call it, I guess
- 5:48a tunnel, and I'm just floating through it, and it's solvable. It
- 5:55is their complete and conditional love, acceptance, joy. It was phenomenal and
- 6:03I want to I was like, this is wonderful, this is fantastic,
- 6:09and I'm floating through it, and then I get to something seems like a
- 6:12wooning and it's completely pitch black. I mean, you can't. I couldn't
- 6:16see anything, I couldn't perceive anything. It's just black. But I perceived
- 6:21that it widened and I was like, huh, this is interesting, but
- 6:27it was still complete bliss, and so I'm like, that's fine, that's
- 6:30fine. And then this voice, which I perceived as male, was the
- 6:36most loving, gentle kind, non judgmental voice, and he said, do
- 6:45you want to come? And I thought for just a second, and I
- 6:48went into a little bit of a panic, and I'm like, my boys,
- 6:53and I knew I was making a choice, and I said, I
- 6:57can't. I have two children to and I perceived this little non judgmental nod
- 7:02of a head and I zipped right back down through the tunnel and into and
- 7:06plopped into my body and the fever broke and I was out of the hospital
- 7:12the next day. But I'm now empowered. The idea is that I have
- 7:17chosen to be here, I have a reason to be here, and I
- 7:21have a purpose in being in this life. And so that was near death
- 7:27experience number one. Wow, so you pick up this lesson of empowerment and
- 7:35how you can in how you're there for a reason, not just kind of
- 7:44skating along right. Yeah, okay, so near death experience number two.
- 7:50Okay, we're now fast forwarding many many years of decades, and I'm working
- 7:57in a big box retail store and I am a supervisor, and it's I'm
- 8:05in Hawaii by this point in time, and there was in Hawaii. There
- 8:16tends to be every once in a while, these little diseases that pop up.
- 8:20It hadn't popped up when this happened, but I was working and then
- 8:28one day I came down with a very high fever. I don't know how
- 8:35high it was, but it was in August, which is our hottest time
- 8:37of the year. And I was covered in every blanket, every coat,
- 8:41every anything I could find, and I was still shivering. So it was
- 8:48a high fever. And I just basically set that in bed for two days
- 8:54without moving, without drinking, without eating, sitting there in this high fever.
- 9:01And during this time, I started getting these little messages. And I'm
- 9:07not in much of a position to like possess anything, but I kept hearing
- 9:11things like, you know, it'd be so easy to step over the line.
- 9:18It would be so easy just to step over that. You know how
- 9:26easy it would be to step over that line? Uh huh? You mean
- 9:31you think, like make a choice? And I bought it for a little
- 9:39while, and I thought, it would be easy to step over that line.
- 9:43But if I'm going to live, I to drink some water, which
- 9:50I know sounds like a really strange thought at that moment in time, but
- 9:52that's what happened. And then I was like, Okay, well, if
- 9:56I'm going to get some water, I better crawl out of this bed and
- 9:58my base. We rolled out and crawled along the floor and came back and
- 10:05eventually better. It took me four weeks to get back to work though,
- 10:11and from that I learned that management of traditional business was not and I realized
- 10:24I needed to move on to something else. M hm, So again leading
- 10:31leading you to a better and higher purpose. Yes, okay, So at
- 10:41this point did did you? Did you start your own coaching business and started
- 10:46helping people to find their purpose? Well, it took me a long time
- 10:50to realize that that was even a possibility, even though I had been doing
- 10:56for decades. People would come to me and they would ask their deepest questions
- 11:03and would want to hear what I say say. And I knew at the
- 11:07second event that whatever people needed to hear would kind of come through me.
- 11:16And when it I could feel it. I mean, I could feel the
- 11:20heat the energy flowing through. But I would be talking and I would,
- 11:24you know, be talking with them, and then some what I would consider
- 11:30random statement would come out of my mouth and it would be exactly what to
- 11:35hear. At that point in time, I didn't yet have the idea that
- 11:39this is something that was special. I knew that I was doing something that
- 11:46helped people, and I'm like, I'm going with that if it helps people.
- 11:50But it took me a while longer to figure out that hey, I
- 11:54could really help people in a much bigger way, and that act aim or
- 12:01with Inde number three. Okay, so let's tell that story. Okay.
- 12:11So I'm this is after the eruption, and I've been helping all of the
- 12:15people who lost their homes. I was the calmer during that eruption at a
- 12:22place called the Hub, which ever came to for their basic necessities and how
- 12:28to get you know, here I am, where can I get now?
- 12:31And a lot of them came in and they were just so dazed they couldn't
- 12:35even think. And that's where I came in to help them get to the
- 12:39point where they could say, Okay, we're still alive. We can move
- 12:43on. And that's what the calmer does. So I'd been doing that,
- 12:48and then afterwards I was trying to help get resources for all of these people
- 12:52who now had no homes and no or live and I've been going to meet
- 13:00and doing all sorts of things. And then one day, the very last
- 13:07couple of days of August twenty nineteen, I uh feeling like I wasn't you
- 13:13know, maybe I'm coming down with something or watch and you know, we
- 13:16don't we just keep going what you know. And I was at a kind
- 13:24of a lunch meeting with a friend of mine and I noticed I couldn't open
- 13:28the to a can like a drink can, like a pop cup. My
- 13:35fingers would not open, not open the can. And I'm like, that's
- 13:39weird. And my friend jumps in and opens it for me. It's really
- 13:43weird. I tasted it and it tasted off really off, and I'm like,
- 13:50well, okay, fine, we're just gonna move on. And I
- 13:56went through the meeting and then I went home that night and everything was still
- 14:03I felt a little strange. And then two days later, on September second,
- 14:09my husband and I were supposed to go to the grocery store and he
- 14:11was getting ready. I said, I'm just going to take a fifteen minute
- 14:15nap, and he while he was getting ready, and I asleep and slept
- 14:20for two hours and woke up with a very very high fever and I was
- 14:26going nowhere and again the high fever lasted for two days. But it was
- 14:31really interesting. You know, my back hurt, like my litts and my
- 14:37kidneys hurt, and I could feel parts of me hurting that didn't normally hurt.
- 14:43I didn't know what that was. But you know, at that point
- 14:48in time, we had no idea about was to come. But I was
- 14:54basically out again for two days in the high fever. This time I went
- 15:00somewhere. I was in a place and I don't know how I got there,
- 15:03I just was there. And I was in a place where everything was
- 15:09kind of indistinct and kind of fuzzy, but it was kind of a brown,
- 15:13pink, orange gray color all around, kind of like almost misty,
- 15:18only not wet, and I could tell that there were some figures around,
- 15:24but I didn't lots of figures actually, but I couldn't see them. I
- 15:28could hear them, and they were chanting at me over and over, you
- 15:33have done what you're here to do. And I'm like, okay, that's
- 15:39fine, that's fine. What And then I popped back into my box and
- 15:43the fever broke. But it would take me months to recover from that.
- 15:50And by the time I recovered, we figured out that there was this thing
- 15:52going round called COVID, and it's itplised that that may have what it was.
- 16:03Okay, So I get back from that one and I'm like, if
- 16:07I've done what I'm here to do, why am I still here, and
- 16:14so that started. That was really the big change in my life toward the
- 16:19spiritual path, toward helping people, toward using all this to help as many
- 16:25people as I could, because now I had I knew I was here,
- 16:32I knew I had to reason there from the first time, from the times
- 16:34before, I knew I had a purpose. But now there was like,
- 16:41and you're not going to be here forever. You need to get on the
- 16:45stick. So I started while I couldn't move much because my body was still
- 16:51healing, and that took months. I went through intensive training of what I
- 16:56could on the internet and learn everything I could from all ofers, from anyone
- 17:03that that Ramados was a big part of it. I learned so much from
- 17:10all of these about the world that I hadn't seen up to that point.
- 17:17And the big thing is a couple of days after I came back and I
- 17:22was not moving well, I'm staying on the couch one day looking out the
- 17:26window, processing everything that I'm learning, and I just got filled with this
- 17:33complete bliss joy of complete oneness, unity, wholeness, and it was like
- 17:41I can't even describe how basiful I felt. But then I knew that there
- 17:49was this that becoming me. That's that's our natural state. Yeah, and
- 17:56that's where we all looking to get too. Yeah, back to that place
- 18:03of where we all we're all completely joined energetically through through that universal love,
- 18:11right, yes, Yeah, which we could have here on earth, and
- 18:15that is a natural state and that's what we need to work for at this
- 18:19time. The energy is there for us specifically that. So how do you
- 18:29help how do you help people start to realize that they could actually have that.
- 18:33Well, people come to me and they've usually, you know, every
- 18:37one of us has been through trauma in our lives. That's private. As
- 18:41the buddhast said, you know, there is suffering and we're working to get
- 18:47beyond suffering. They come to me with whatever suffering they have had, and
- 18:53I don't tell them what to do. I'm not like there. I'm a
- 19:00coach. I guide them to find within themselves what they need to do to
- 19:07move beyond wherever they are and into dream life, the life that we've just
- 19:12been talking about. Yeah, So you believe that that our purpose or destiny
- 19:19however you want to put that, it's it's inside of us. It's not
- 19:25something that's outside of us. Absolutely, absolutely so. But of us,
- 19:32I mean, we've been trained for generations that that that's not there, that
- 19:36all we have is what we see or what we five senses, and we
- 19:41get lost in that and we feel the pain of that, which started with
- 19:45the separate. True separation is when we get born and we are separated from
- 19:52everything that I saw in that last incident. And the the point is to
- 20:00work our way through all of that and back to the wholeness, right leading
- 20:08back to the to the story. It was I'm gonna butcher the volcano name,
- 20:14sorry, Kilauea, I think it was. Is that what you right
- 20:17on? Oh? Hey, hey, I finally got a name right?
- 20:21Oh my god? Uh? When when that eruption happened? Actually, I
- 20:27kind of remembered that that in in the news and reporting someone that about how
- 20:33many how how people were you know, it was like devastation. So how
- 20:41do you how did you use what was inside of you to help others find
- 20:47that calmness themselves? Well, for instance, I will take one person in
- 20:52in particular, but this happened many times everything and this happened, the one
- 21:00I'm talking about happened in the very first couple of days of the eruption,
- 21:03which was twenty eighteen basically May to July of twenty eighteen, but the after
- 21:11effects lasted long after that anyway. So she shows up and she's a friend
- 21:18of mine. I've known her and had lots of interactions with her. And
- 21:22she comes up and her face is completely blank gray, there's like absolutely no
- 21:29life in her. And I know what's happened. I already know. And
- 21:34so I walk up to her and I say hey, and I just just
- 21:41just hey, not even anything, and she just starts crying and she says,
- 21:48it's all gone. Everything, It's all gone. And then I get
- 21:53to a place where we can sit down, and then I start asking her
- 21:56questions and I have her tell story to me in her words. And then
- 22:04as soon as I've got her to the point where she's got that out,
- 22:08Okay, now it's time to start working. So I start asking her little
- 22:11questions like do you have toothbrushes? Do you have towels? Do you have
- 22:18you know, based necessities of things that they would need. Do you have
- 22:23a place to stay? Do you have everything? Until I can get them
- 22:29to the point where they're like, Okay, we lost everything, but we
- 22:34still have us. We still have the necessities, we can move on from
- 22:38here. And that was what I did as the calmer, was to help
- 22:44them move through this, this particular trauma to be on to a new life.
- 22:52And that's what I do with everybody, is we go through and we
- 22:59find the trauma, and usually it's deeply hidden, and so we have to
- 23:03do a little digging, or we have to do it over time. We
- 23:07frequently see the surface trauma and we say what it is. That's not necessarily
- 23:14what it really is, and it's probably much better than that. So we
- 23:18work through it in stages. And once we were working on all of those,
- 23:25you know, the inner work, which is so very important, then
- 23:30the outer work becomes so much easier. They will see what their true path
- 23:37is, what they're supposed to be doing, supposed to be but what would
- 23:42be most fulfilling in their life for them to do from this point forward.
- 23:48Yeah. For instance, I have this person who's who had they'd been married
- 23:56for like over thirty years and it was a very very good marriage. They
- 24:00loved each other very much, and he died of a heart attack suddenly,
- 24:04just boom gone done, and she was just devastated. And so we worked
- 24:11and worked with her and got her to the point where instead of doing what
- 24:17she was doing before, she was she kind of had She goes back and
- 24:22forth on what her career is, but her place of living, instead of
- 24:27becoming the house that they had lived in, became an RV where she can
- 24:32travel around the you know, the countryside wherever she wants to go, and
- 24:37she can work from wherever she is. Right, big change in her.
- 24:44Yeah, do you you help people look at it, because because the way
- 24:51you're just describing it as compared compared, it would be like an iceberg.
- 24:56What we see on the surface is this little plume of of of ice staking
- 25:04it is floating on it. It appears to be floating on top, but
- 25:07down underneath there's this huge thing always and it will go back as far.
- 25:17I mean if we if we really look at the trauma. First of all,
- 25:22the trauma may not even be in this lifetime. It may be what
- 25:26has been passed down from the generation for you, mine was, It may
- 25:30be passed down from lives you've had before this one. You know, there's
- 25:37all sorts of layers to trauma. And I don't want to throw the trauma
- 25:44around too much because people get kind of weirded out by it. But every
- 25:48last one of us has had things we had to deal with and go through,
- 25:52and not one of us has not felt pain. Yeah, yeah,
- 25:59that's that's true. All of us know what pain is. Yeah. Is
- 26:06it about more how we learn to deal with that pain rather some some like
- 26:15from my understand out of like our life's pain, we suppress it and then
- 26:18they push it down to beneath the surface, and then it starts to build
- 26:22up and becomes this huge thing and then one little event can trigger like this
- 26:26whole explosion of and so exactly that is exactly it. And that's what we've
- 26:38been told. I mean, people throughout the world, all over the world
- 26:44have been told push it down, push it down, push it down.
- 26:47Keep you're strong. You've got to get through this. You've got to keep
- 26:49moving, you gotta, you know. And that's not healthy. We should
- 26:55be dealing with these things as they come up and finding the roots of them.
- 27:02But we're not even taught that that exists. But this is all that
- 27:07the iceberg that you're talking about, that that's unseen, yea. And so
- 27:14this is what we have to do to move to the new world and beyond
- 27:19is to completely re re see how we think of incidents that are are they're
- 27:30learning experiences. They're probably painful, but that doesn't mean that they are they
- 27:38need held in trauma anything like that. They can be learning experiences on a
- 27:47much easier way. I keep telling people there's two ways of learning anything.
- 27:52There's the easier path or there's the painful path. Either way you're going to
- 27:57learn the same. One of them is a whole lot easier. Mm hmm.
- 28:06Wait, how do we make the choice by choosing? By choosing in
- 28:12every moment, in every decision you make, and when something comes up,
- 28:18instead of saying why is this happening to me? Understand this is happening to
- 28:25me for my higher good, my my growth, my evolution in whatever former,
- 28:33no matter that I can't see it. Now, this is happening that
- 28:38I can be the best me I can be. Is there a lot of
- 28:45acceptance in that? In that saying something like that to yourself? Do I
- 28:52I accept it? Yeah? I've learned to accept. Yeah. It took
- 28:56me, you know, decades, but I I accept it now. And
- 29:02I understand that people have trouble versus one what but it's the truth. And
- 29:07if we get through things in a way that is healthy and is not going
- 29:14to stop us from living our best lives or forward. That's freedom. Freedom
- 29:22is this is happening. You know, most people think of things as happening
- 29:27to This happening to me. It's not happening to you. It's happening for
- 29:34you, and eventually, as you practice it enough, it happens through you
- 29:41so that you can bring your life for better to everyone around you. That
- 29:49makes sense too. So if things can happen through us, so how do
- 29:59you how do you guide people to to that point where because obviously you're you're
- 30:06you're the the the sherpa that helps us get up mount average. So uh
- 30:15so, how do you guide people up that path at their own pace from
- 30:22wherever they're at, a step at a time. That's how I did it,
- 30:29That's how all the masters did it. That's how everyone who does it
- 30:32does it. You deal with this, Okay, now this is happening.
- 30:36Now you deal with this. Okay, now this is happening. Now you
- 30:38deal with this, and you do it one step at a time. But
- 30:42a lot of it gets easier as soon as we can do Just like I
- 30:48said, this is not happening to you. This is not happening to all
- 30:52of us. This is happening for us, all of us, and that
- 31:00you know, it doesn't matter how many times you have to bring yourself back
- 31:04to that, because it'll come up over and over. The ego mind,
- 31:11whatever you want to call it. Look what's happening to you now, because
- 31:15that's its job, is safety. In order for you to be safe,
- 31:19you've got to be small. You've got to not step out of vine,
- 31:22you gotta just you know, you just got to just stay like you are.
- 31:29But that's not healthy. So each time it says this is happening to
- 31:33you, you have to step back and say, just take a breath.
- 31:38This is happening for me. I may not understand how, but this is
- 31:45happening. I will get through this and I will be better for it.
- 31:52And a lot of times that as people are going through this, they need
- 31:56to talk it out with somebody to to that came hmm. I totally understand
- 32:07and believe and advise people to like, hey, find somebody to talk it
- 32:10out. Tell the story too, so that you know, do you It's
- 32:15not so much that that person's going to come with answers for you, it's
- 32:20just by telling it and talking it out. Did you find the answers yourself
- 32:24through talking and telling it out right? And if you find a good person
- 32:30that that's a match for you, that person will be able to ask the
- 32:35right questions that don't give you the end, but lead you to the fin
- 32:42answer within yourself. And that's what I do right now. That's an interesting
- 32:47job. It's it's very filling and I have I feel the energy just going
- 33:00through me when I'm doing it for people, and I come out of it
- 33:02so hyped. It just it feels amazing to watch someone make a transformation in
- 33:10their life. What does that look like for you when you see see it
- 33:16happening? It, Well, it's different for everybody, but for me to
- 33:22watch it and see it happening, it's I get filled with just extreme energy
- 33:30of gratitude and joy to participant in it, to watch it happen, to
- 33:37see this miracle happening in these people's lives, it's it's beyond compare. Yeah.
- 33:45So going back to your your friend and the volcano, I'm not going
- 33:52to try to see the name again. If you're I will screw it up.
- 33:58Uh. Did you continue working with her to get her to another place
- 34:05where she could accept that not everything was gone, just some just some some
- 34:12I'm good for lack of a better word, just some toys were gone,
- 34:16but the things that were truly important were still there. The love of her
- 34:22community was still there, the love of her family was still there. That
- 34:25sort of thing I did. And she would come in frequently and she would
- 34:31talk to me. Sometimes sometimes she would be looking for something and I would
- 34:37see if I could help her find it. Or sometimes you know, a
- 34:40lot of what they needed was resources. Where can I find such and such
- 34:45or you know? And I would help them where to get that. I
- 34:51would be like the bridge between there's the resources, over here, there's the
- 34:54people. Let's get these two together and help them find whatever verd it was
- 35:00they needed. They she and her family went on to be much better home
- 35:10than they had had and two the kids were fine. She and her were
- 35:15fine. All all the pets. They'd managed to get all the pets out.
- 35:21And what more do you need than the lives? If if you've got
- 35:25the lives, you can anyone can start over. They need to. It
- 35:30doesn't mean it's going to necessarily be easy, but it is doable. And
- 35:37most of us have had incidents somewhere in our life where we had a starting
- 35:43over moment. Well, focus on the doable part, right, It's not
- 35:49a matter I think. I think most of us can eventually see that it's
- 35:52doable. But they question of the bridges. It's how how do you get
- 36:00them to see it's worth the doing. Most of them once they realize they
- 36:09still have their family, they still have their loved ones, they still have
- 36:13their community, and that is key that they still have their community. Okay,
- 36:19this is worth doing. I had numbers of them. One little example
- 36:25from the corruption again, this gal who was not married, didn't have any
- 36:30family around, came in one day and she was just distraught because just lost
- 36:37all of the tidepools, the hot ponds, all of the shoreline, the
- 36:43beaches. We'd lost everything in the flow and we had no more places to
- 36:49go to be in the water. And she came in and she was just
- 36:53I can't live without water. I can't live I can't live without water.
- 36:58And I let her tell her story, and then when she got done,
- 37:02she said, well doesn't it affect you? And I said, it affects
- 37:06me. Every night I go home and cry for all of the plants that
- 37:08couldn't leave, for the animals that were stuck in their homes or in the
- 37:13water and couldn't get beyond that, I go home and cry all the time
- 37:16for them. And she's like, oh, I hadn't thought of it that
- 37:22way. And she thought, then it just opened up for her. There's
- 37:27a really much bigger picture than you sitting on the beach. And she came
- 37:31back the next day and she just hugged me and she said, thank you
- 37:34so much. I now realize how much more important it is to be here
- 37:39than it is for me to be on the beach. So that's the kind
- 37:45of kind of how do I get them to walk here? What is there
- 37:54a purpose? Yes, there is a purpose. Every one of us has
- 37:58a purpose. Yeah. Cool you. I was gonna say, you actually
- 38:12made that decision yourself. When you talk the three near death experiences that you
- 38:19had, you made you you made a choice. He's like, Okay,
- 38:25I made this choice because of this purpose, this purpose, or this the
- 38:31this this why or however however whatever term we want to put to it,
- 38:37it doesn't matter. But you made that. You made the choice. So
- 38:44do you use that experience to help others make that make that choice so they
- 38:47can decide to move forward. I do a lot of time talking to people.
- 38:55I will use examples from my own life, the fit with wherever they
- 39:00happen to be at. I see thing that has happened in my life as
- 39:07a timeline. You know, a lot of people have a near death experience.
- 39:10It changes their lives and that's it. They're done. Then they have
- 39:15this transformation and they have a whole new life and is like a timeline that
- 39:21goes on and on. I think now it is complete. My timeline is
- 39:25complete. But it took all of these experiences, including all of my past,
- 39:31my childhood, everything that happened up to now, to be able to
- 39:36have a foundation that is broad enough to help just about anybody. There is
- 39:42very little I haven't experienced in this life and can now have the experience as
- 39:49I can say, you know, well, how it happened for me.
- 39:52Will still continue to ask them questions. It just it gives them a little
- 39:57bit of a trigger in their mind to oh, okay, that connects like
- 40:01this, and a lot of what that does for people is lets them know
- 40:07they are not alone. Right. So many people when we go through anything
- 40:14We're like, why is this happening to me? I'm all alone? Nobody
- 40:16understands that's not true, not anyone by any stretch of the imagination. We'd
- 40:23all be amazed how many people have gone exactly this thing or the same feelings
- 40:30that we are having. We just feel because we are feeling so separate that
- 40:35there is no connection. But we are always connected. And so my stories,
- 40:42my examples help them see, Okay, I'm not alone. And that's
- 40:49one of the steps to move on. You said with the eruption that you
- 40:58that you thought about out the the the little creatures in the and the and
- 41:04the plants and everything, they couldn't move in. They and they lost their
- 41:08lives. Do you see every life as in it's just as important as the
- 41:17other, especially in the long scheme of our of our universe the word there
- 41:22is universe. See, everything is completely interconnected. We are all form,
- 41:28and all form is energy, which is light and sound put into these little
- 41:34packages, very different packages. But everything out there is sentient, just like
- 41:39we are. Not in the same way we are, but just as sentient.
- 41:45If you look at ours, the flowers move with the sun. That's
- 41:52sentience. They are feeling the sun and noticing where it is. And that
- 41:58is since everything is sentient, all the plants, all the animals, everything
- 42:06is sentient, So if it has energy, it's sentient. And the entire
- 42:14universe, multiverse, everything in creation is energy. Energy flows in, energy
- 42:22flows out. We are the plants, we are each other. Everything is
- 42:27energy. We're all the same energy. You have all of the masters flowing
- 42:32through you this very second. So as we need to do is tap into
- 42:40that energy, and we can find purpose fulfillment and all that and all of
- 42:47the answers to all our questions. Pretty cool. Doesn't mean we still have
- 42:58to go through stuff in order too, but it may be make it a
- 43:05little bit easier. Well, And you're maybe different than my stuff, may
- 43:08be different than anybody else's stuff, because we are all the creative energy source
- 43:19of the universe experiencing itself in a gazillion different ways that none that you know,
- 43:29I mean, the plants, the animals, everything is of the same
- 43:34source. So we are all experiencing everything together, this in this oneness world.
- 43:45At the same time, each of us is experiencing it through our own
- 43:50perception. And that key word there is perception is perception. It's all energy
- 43:59flowing in and out and through and around and everything, and it's all perception,
- 44:04which means if we want to change that perception, we need to just
- 44:09make the choice that we're going to change our perception to something else. Very
- 44:17good. So final thoughts, because we're running out of time. What is
- 44:24it that you want people when they work with you? What is it that
- 44:28you really want them to maybe learn or experience from working with you? Well,
- 44:36I want them to find their purpose. But one of the big keys
- 44:39to this is understanding that none of us, nothing ever dies. There is
- 44:46no death. Everything transforms back into energy. But the energy is you,
- 44:53the energy that is me, the energy thing is not born and it does
- 44:59not die. It is eternal. When you understand that. When I learned
- 45:07that, when on the first NDE is like, Okay, if I'm if
- 45:12I'm energetic and I'm not going to die, I'm much more to live life
- 45:19not only as I see it, but as I choose and as I can
- 45:24I want. It doesn't have to be that somebody else says, this is
- 45:30going to be your life. You have your own life to live. Everyone
- 45:35has their own life to live, and we decide how that how we do
- 45:39that and I think that who's had an near dexperience comes out of it knowing
- 45:47they don't they're going to die, so it frees them up to life the
- 45:52fullest. And that's my message to everyone is that whether you've had one of
- 45:58those experiences or not, uh, you're not going to die. So life
- 46:05to the fullest. That doesn't mean do stupid things, but live life to
- 46:10the fullest that you can because you're hearing the experience. Yeah, you mean
- 46:16no, especially in a spiritual way. Allow your spirit to be open free,
- 46:23yes, m yeah. So the best way is to get a hold
- 46:29of you and work with you. My website is handle the Shift s h
- 46:35I f T dot com. That's a good way to get hold of me.
- 46:39I'm on Facebook, I'm on LinkedIn, I'm those are the probably busiest
- 46:47ways to live me. The site has the ways in which I can help
- 46:54you. That's a good place to look. As I said, that's handled
- 46:59the shot at all. Awesome. In case you want to read more the
- 47:07book, which is an international bestseller. Oh yes, I forgot to mention
- 47:15that, did you are an international bestseller? You know what it's some of
- 47:24the things is like they just become titles and way do you really want people
- 47:30to learn? Becomes way more important than the title. This is a really
- 47:35good way started. The pre predecessor to it is called dream It, See
- 47:39It, Live It. That's also a really great start for people who just
- 47:44want If they're written for younger audience, it's very busy, it's doesn't doesn't
- 47:54want to have a lot of time, but it's very tech sactic written little
- 48:00small snippets that are very easy to understand. Yeah, and we can find
- 48:05those on Amazon Amazon. M okay, awesome, all right, thank you
- 48:12so much. Le. It's been wonderful speaking with you, and I hope
- 48:16to stay in touch and do more work with you. Give some Michael's been
- 48:23a pleasure being with you today. All right, help us to idam so
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