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The Late Debate | 26 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Welcome Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late Debate,
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. We've got
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  Speaker 2: obviously a lot to talk about tonight, with lots happening
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  Speaker 2: around the country.
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  Speaker 3: Later on we'll talk about a politician.
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  Speaker 2: Who's in trouble after running for parliament, all the while
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  Speaker 2: putting bets on himself to lose the election. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about that later plus when we get to the papers.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously the return of Julia sangj is everywhere as well,
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  Speaker 2: the Victorian government looking at what introducing what amounts to
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  Speaker 2: a death tax, and the Darwin Waterfront is evacuated as
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  Speaker 2: a World War two era Japanese bomb is detonated. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about all of that when we get to the papers.
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  Speaker 2: But the conflict in Gaza looks like it might be
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  Speaker 2: drawing to a close after nine months of fighting. It
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  Speaker 2: seems peace is finally on the horizon, not due to
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden, Benjaminette, Yahoo or the United Nations, but thanks
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  Speaker 2: to Sydney City Lord Mayor Clover More. Clover Moore has
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  Speaker 2: decided in her wisdom to review the council's printing contracts
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  Speaker 2: with Israeli based company Hewitt Packard in a push to
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  Speaker 2: boycott Israeli companies, and she believes this may well be
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  Speaker 2: the crucial peace that finally brings a resolution. She said,
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  Speaker 2: today leaders must strive to break the cycle of violence
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  Speaker 2: in this region and ensure that neither Israelis nor Palestinians
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  Speaker 2: live in fear and at risk of harm or death.
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  Speaker 2: Now more than ever, we must use our voices to
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  Speaker 2: call for peace. She goes on to say, if the
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  Speaker 2: city's voice in this campaign can put additional pressure towards
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  Speaker 2: a cease fire and an end to the humanitarian crisis,
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  Speaker 2: then I think we should carefully review our investments and suppliers.
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  Speaker 3: So there you have it.
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  Speaker 2: Sydney City Council can't empty bins, can't fill potholes, can
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  Speaker 2: solve the Ghazan Conflicting.
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  Speaker 4: The James, I know, I know, I'm detecting a note
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  Speaker 4: of sarcasm.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all. I'm so excited by it development.
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  Speaker 4: I have to I think, for the sake of clarity,
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  Speaker 4: we have to. We have to state that you are
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  Speaker 4: being somewhat facetious. Citis the touch Sydney City Council boycotting
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  Speaker 4: Hewlett Packard won't solve the Middle East peace crisis for
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  Speaker 4: the precise reason that it's already been solved by Fatima
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  Speaker 4: payment voting with the Greens in the center. There's no
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  Speaker 4: crisis left to solve. It's late to the party. What
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  Speaker 4: you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: She's still I mean, she shouldn't need to wait in
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  Speaker 1: she should have been.
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  Speaker 4: There passing emotion, you know, from the river to the sea.
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  Speaker 4: That usually does it, I think, or maybe just hang
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  Speaker 4: out at Sydney UNI.
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  Speaker 2: Aside from the fast set in, Aside from the fact
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  Speaker 2: that boycotting Israeli companies in protest that the Israeli government
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  Speaker 2: is trying to rescue their own people who are still
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  Speaker 2: being held hostages by terrorists, that is not only offensive,
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  Speaker 2: it's just downright evil. But I mean, it's just ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: that anything Sydney City Council does is going to have
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  Speaker 2: any effect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and we love to poke finite councils
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  Speaker 1: engaging in foreign policy, of course, but here we have
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  Speaker 1: a council who's literally essentially creating their own sanctions.
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  Speaker 5: Now foreign you guys, sanctions, we do not.
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  Speaker 1: Do business with you. To be clear, this is a
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  Speaker 1: report in order so to speak that they've commissioned. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll know whether they actually action it in three months
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  Speaker 1: when we get a report out of this and we find.
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  Speaker 4: Out boycott Palestinian companies in order to pressure on her
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  Speaker 4: mask to release the hostages because they said it was
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  Speaker 4: they were doing it for both Israelis and Palestinians.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, except for maybe the Palestinians don't have anything to
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  Speaker 1: boycott it.
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  Speaker 5: What do we buy off them?
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  Speaker 4: That's right, there's a topic in that on in and
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  Speaker 4: of itself. But this is history repeating itself because a
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  Speaker 4: Likehart Counsel did the exact same thing ten years ago.
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  Speaker 4: So again, the Greens and the prog left have not
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  Speaker 4: been you know, they're not suddenly outraged by what Israel
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  Speaker 4: has been doing over the last six months. They've been
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  Speaker 4: after Israel for years and years and years decades in fact,
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  Speaker 4: and the like Art City Council went like Council in
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  Speaker 4: Cities in a West when it was run by the Greens,
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  Speaker 4: instituted its own BDS program, which is Boycott's divestments and sanctions,
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  Speaker 4: which was part what something the left were going for.
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  Speaker 4: You might remember, like kids were out there protesting against
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  Speaker 4: Max Brenner. Max Brennan Newtown.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's by Jews.
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  Speaker 4: Let's protest. So they went out there and you know,
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  Speaker 4: just basically stankd the joint out and then the mayor
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  Speaker 4: of like our council ran for the state seat of
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  Speaker 4: Marrickville against Carmel Tebbett, the former Missus Anthony Albanezi and
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  Speaker 4: lost in an absolute routing. She got absolutely pants and
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  Speaker 4: that was basically done like a know over there, because
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  Speaker 4: people back then realized that this was just absolutely insane
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  Speaker 4: for any local government to be involving itself in any
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  Speaker 4: foreign policy, let alone one as contentious and problematic as
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  Speaker 4: this one. And the Jewish community very very grateful, well sorry,
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  Speaker 4: very very grateful for Carmel Tebbet's stance against the BDS,
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  Speaker 4: and indeed very very grateful for Anthony Albanese support as well.
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  Speaker 4: And so the Jewish community and anti Albanis actually have
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  Speaker 4: a history that goes many many years. They get along
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  Speaker 4: much more.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to the Jewish community today that was on
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  Speaker 1: their side.
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  Speaker 5: I'm breath.
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  Speaker 4: There are close community links there.
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  Speaker 5: Keep those shreds of credibility.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously the reason why she's doing this as well
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  Speaker 1: is she's seeking a sixth term in September. So she's
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  Speaker 1: put her nose in the air, sniff the political will
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  Speaker 1: of the people, or so she thinks. And even if
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  Speaker 1: nothing comes of this, people will have seen the headline
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  Speaker 1: and that's what you're doing it for.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to Victoria where the premier has announced a
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  Speaker 2: four million dollar eighteen months pill testing trial to begin
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  Speaker 2: this summer. What the government are going to do is
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  Speaker 2: create mobile pill testing centers that will go from various
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  Speaker 2: music festivals to others about ten this summer, as well
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  Speaker 2: as a fixed pill testing center in the CBD. This
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  Speaker 2: issue has been bubbling along for quite some time, but
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  Speaker 2: the Victorian government has finally said we're going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Have listened to Victorian Premiere Dicenta Allen talking about how
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  Speaker 2: it was her kids that convinced.
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  Speaker 3: Her that this is a good idea. Have a listener to.
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  Speaker 6: Agis are they their kids get handed a pill at
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  Speaker 6: a festival. They want a medical professional who can tell
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  Speaker 6: them exactly what it is and exactly what it does
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  Speaker 6: without telling them it's safe, No judgment, just facts, honest,
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  Speaker 6: open health focused conversations. That's how we change young people's
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  Speaker 6: behavior and even reduce drug use, and that's all pill
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  Speaker 6: testing is about. It doesn't make pills legal, but it
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  Speaker 6: does keep people safe, so.
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  Speaker 2: That's all it's about. It doesn't make pills legal, it
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  Speaker 2: just keeps people safe. The only problem is the police
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  Speaker 2: themselves are quite confused now about what's going to happen
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  Speaker 2: in music festivals. Should they be checking young people for drugs?
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  Speaker 2: Should they be standing right back? They're not sure what
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to be doing. Have a listen to this
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  Speaker 2: from Police Association Secretary Wayne Gatt. He said, and I
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  Speaker 2: quote pill testing diminishes the illegality of illicit drug taking
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  Speaker 2: in a particular area at a particular time, and that
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  Speaker 2: flies directly in the face of long accepting police practices,
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  Speaker 2: principles rather personal responsibility and the law.
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  Speaker 3: So it beggars belief is that.
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  Speaker 2: The Victorian government have not consulted with the police so
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  Speaker 2: that this is clear. A head of the announcement, the
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  Speaker 2: police are saying, well, currently we conduct drug searches. Should
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  Speaker 2: we no longer do that? Or should we conduct drug
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  Speaker 2: searchers but sort of not within fifty meters or is
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  Speaker 2: it one hundred meters of the pill testing center? And
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  Speaker 2: what if we find drugs on a young person at
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  Speaker 2: a festival. But they say, oh, I'm on my way
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  Speaker 2: to the pill test.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they say, look, they've already been tested, so it's
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  Speaker 1: been given real clear.
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  Speaker 7: She'll be right, mate.
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  Speaker 1: He's hit the nail on the head when he says
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  Speaker 1: pill testing diminishes the illegality of illicit drug taking, because
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  Speaker 1: is it really illicit anymore? Are those drugs really illegal
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  Speaker 1: when you've got state funded pill testing to ensure that, Hey, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Aoka if you take this.
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  Speaker 1: I've My argument has remained the same on this since
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  Speaker 1: the dawn of it, and that.
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  Speaker 5: Is, let natural selection take it's called.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be stupid enough to take drugs, then
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  Speaker 1: you're rolling the dice baby and the strong survive the week, don't.
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  Speaker 1: But how many more kids I just can't believe Justinta
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  Speaker 1: Allen is even trying on the argument that this will
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  Speaker 1: reduce the use of drugs. Show me one kid who
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  Speaker 1: once they know well, this thing's safe. I've got state
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  Speaker 1: funded pill testing on site at my festival, isn't probably
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  Speaker 1: going to give it a go, even if they wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have previously. Will be given a false sense of security,
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, the sense of illegality goes out the window.
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  Speaker 4: Also, if you've got a pill and you've got to
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  Speaker 4: test it and they say no, this one's no good,
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't you just chuck that and then go and find
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  Speaker 4: another dealer and get another pill. I'm sorry, I've seen
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  Speaker 4: the light I found Jesus. I'm going to go to
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  Speaker 4: my first ever outdoor rave sober.
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  Speaker 1: Shouldn't the pill testers be saying that again about every
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  Speaker 1: drug that comes through their doors because the idea of
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  Speaker 1: this drug being illegal is that it is bad for you,
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  Speaker 1: It will do a bad things, criminalized.
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  Speaker 5: And don't resk it.
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  Speaker 3: It's really the problem. This is the issue of liability.
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  Speaker 2: What if they go, they get their pill tested, they're
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  Speaker 2: told yeah, that's safe. Then they take it, but they
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  Speaker 2: mix it with another drug or they just have a
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  Speaker 2: bad reaction and something to what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Who's at fault.
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  Speaker 4: Again these two things. Since the Act first first introduced
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  Speaker 4: it a couple of years ago, and interestingly Victoria is
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  Speaker 4: following the Act and Queensland in this trial. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what the test results were for the Queensland pills,
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  Speaker 4: but judging by tonight's state of origin, performance work can
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  Speaker 4: work too soon soon too soon, you weren't still raw.
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  Speaker 4: But the firstly, how do you police it? So you
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  Speaker 4: have to therefore have some kind you have to have
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  Speaker 4: some kind of amnesty zone sometimes zone where police couldn't
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  Speaker 4: search people if you were a drug drugs dealers, Chris,
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  Speaker 4: that's exactly where you go. So I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: that works in practice, and maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the cops is turned a blind eye and pretend.
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  Speaker 4: And the other thing is, of course, like you say,
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  Speaker 4: the libility. Now we've got class actions in Americas. We're
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  Speaker 4: very fond of talking about it. This show of people
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  Speaker 4: who have taken a COVID vaccine that's been tested, that's
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  Speaker 4: had clinical trials, and they've still had an adverse reaction,
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  Speaker 4: and now they're saying, how dare you? How dare you imagine?
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  Speaker 4: What the what the video? I mean, the kid's going
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  Speaker 4: to have to sign a waiver to say that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I won't take any further action if you tell me.
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  Speaker 4: And of course the doctors aren't going to say that
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  Speaker 4: it's safe. They keep making that clear. No we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to say it's safe, but we're going to say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, oh, this doesn't have any horse tranquilizer in it,
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  Speaker 4: or it doesn't have it, or it's pure en DNA
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  Speaker 4: or whatever whatever. But either way, if it's effectively sanctioned,
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  Speaker 4: then you know, we'll only take the first death after
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  Speaker 4: a pill has been tested, or the first adverse reaction.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what if the kid becomes a schizophrenic
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  Speaker 4: by taking.
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  Speaker 5: Of having illegal drugs, is that's right?
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  Speaker 4: That's right. And again the criminalizing drugs like, not all
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  Speaker 4: of them, but but I'm in favor of what Dominic
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  Speaker 4: Perrete did, which was divert personal drug use out of
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  Speaker 4: the system. So drugs are still illegal, so they're not decriminalized,
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  Speaker 4: but if you're court with a small amount just for
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  Speaker 4: personal use, you get referred in the first instance or
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  Speaker 4: to treatment rather than clogging up the court system. And
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  Speaker 4: that was something obviously done by a conservative premier. That
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  Speaker 4: makes perfect sense. But to have a system where you're
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  Speaker 4: just going to specifically test pills and leave all other
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  Speaker 4: illicit drugs out of it and still keep them as
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  Speaker 4: being illegal just makes no sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen, in her explanation on Twitter, explained that smart young
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  Speaker 2: people want information, smart young people taking drugs, and.
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  Speaker 1: That way just making it like no, these are the
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  Speaker 1: smart ones. You know they're doing their research before they
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  Speaker 1: take this illegal substance. Do me a favor to a
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: case now that will literally curl your hair if it's
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  Speaker 1: not already curly. A guy in the Netherlands who is
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  Speaker 1: a convicted rapist is now going to Paris twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four Olympics to compete on the international stage. This man
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  Speaker 1: was a convicted rapist of a twelve year old back
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  Speaker 1: in twenty and sixteen. At the time, the judge said
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  Speaker 1: his chances of going to the Olympics were quote a
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  Speaker 1: shattered dream end quote and that he had quote a
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  Speaker 1: dark side end quote. Well, yeah, you would have to
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  Speaker 1: have a dart side to be seven years This girl's
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  Speaker 1: senior groom her for two years, travel from the Netherlands
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  Speaker 1: on several occasions to rape her repeatedly in her own
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  Speaker 1: mother's home while the mother's away.
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  Speaker 5: And this child is just twelve years old.
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  Speaker 1: This sniveling pile of steaming human fegal matter dares to
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  Speaker 1: say this. He says, quote, I do want to correct
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  Speaker 1: all the nonsense which has been written about me.
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  Speaker 7: When I was locked up.
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  Speaker 1: I did not read anything of it on purpose, but
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  Speaker 1: I understand that it was quite bad that I have
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  Speaker 1: been branded as a sex monster, as a pedophile. P
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  Speaker 1: fact check that that I am not really not. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: can have an opinion about me, but it is only
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  Speaker 1: fair if they also know my side of the story.
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  Speaker 7: Buddy, I just told your side of the story.
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  Speaker 1: He served only twelve months in jail, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: he was sentenced with four years, but got out on
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  Speaker 1: bail after one. And now this guy gets to go
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  Speaker 1: belauded as a famous athlete at Paris twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 1: the Netherlands. What the hell are you thinking?
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  Speaker 7: And I'm just going to remake my point.
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  Speaker 1: If we had the death penalty for convicted pedals, as
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  Speaker 1: I've repeatedly asked for, we wouldn't have this problem.
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  Speaker 7: We would have this problem.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: So again I present my case.
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  Speaker 3: I suppose killing people does eliminate a lot of problems.
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  Speaker 1: If you look like that Liz rapist a child, No,
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  Speaker 1: you would also cause a shortage on the Dutch beach
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  Speaker 1: volleyball team as well. So you know, literally, they haven't
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  Speaker 1: got any better than a guy who repeatedly raped a
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  Speaker 1: twelve year old. He is somebody else to bash around
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  Speaker 1: a volleyball for crying out.
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  Speaker 3: Laud I decided the moral question for a moment, there's.
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  Speaker 1: No pudding aside the moral I said from I said,
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  Speaker 1: for a moment, No, why that is? That is? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see how you have a point, if.
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  Speaker 7: What this is all about.
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  Speaker 3: If you allow me to speak, you'll see that I've.
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  Speaker 4: Got a point.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's see if you do.
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  Speaker 3: There's a legal issue here first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: If he qualifies for the Olympic Games, and you make
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  Speaker 2: the Olympic team based on your athletic performance, and there
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  Speaker 2: is no criteria that says if you are a convicted rapist,
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  Speaker 2: you cannot be selected, and they don't select him even
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  Speaker 2: though he's qualified, Potentially there's a discrimination issue that will
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  Speaker 2: just be a legal question before you get to the
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  Speaker 2: moral question.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just pointing out moral.
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  Speaker 1: Questions should first though, Why would you want?
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  Speaker 3: That's an issue?
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  Speaker 4: So should all convicted criminals, no child rape victor pedophiles.
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  Speaker 7: If you've done.
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  Speaker 1: Petty theft, or you've engaged in fraud, mate play ball,
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  Speaker 1: all you like, if you're the best your country has
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  Speaker 1: got for it, I am talking about child rapists, convicted pedophiles.
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  Speaker 4: Convicted rapists as well, or just child rapists.
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  Speaker 5: Child rapists?
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  Speaker 2: Should you be allowed to work in the public service?
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  Speaker 2: So if you've had that sort of conviction.
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  Speaker 1: As a child rapist, no, okay, should you be allowed
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  Speaker 1: to what other jobs?
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  Speaker 3: Should you be barred from? What other once you've served
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  Speaker 3: your time? Exactly?
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  Speaker 1: Get my argument twelve months in prison, which is nothing,
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  Speaker 1: and then just live life as if it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: My question is, once you start down this track and
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  Speaker 2: you say someone's been convicted, someone has served their time.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't served their time twelve months, your daughter Mac,
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  Speaker 1: there is no way you would argue this.
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  Speaker 7: Answer me, that would you argue this.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to finish what I was saying. The fact
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  Speaker 2: you only served twelve months is outrageous. But that's a
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: legal matter, right, that's down to the judicial system. All
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  Speaker 2: I'm asking is, if you commit a crime and then
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  Speaker 2: you found guilty, and then you serve the punishment, how
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  Speaker 2: long then does society continue to punish you?
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  Speaker 5: Never?
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  Speaker 1: You never, you never get to be treated just one
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  Speaker 1: of us, now, No, not when you've committed the most
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  Speaker 1: heinous crime anyone can possibly People can never reform, No,
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  Speaker 1: people can never be There have been so many studies
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  Speaker 1: done showing that pedophiles. No, they can't. They don't even
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  Speaker 1: believe they're in the wrong. They don't see a problem
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  Speaker 1: with what you've just convicted of them, them for, locked
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  Speaker 1: them up for. There is no reformation here. Okay. So no,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: this particular crime that I'm talking about, there is no
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: amount of time you can serve whereby you should just
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: be let back into the community. And everyone treats you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: like it didn't happen.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Screw, and no one's treating him like it didn't happen.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Everyone.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: I think you're arguing.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Advocating for him.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I'm tru you are, Mac, I'm just trying to work
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: out how far you would go in that argument.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, consistent, So pedophiles should not be able to Anyone
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: convicted of child sex offenses should not be able to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, but anyone convictive child
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: sexpenses basically shouldn't be allowed to do any anything.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Why should they be?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, So what do you suggest they do for the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: rest of their lives?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Get a job as a factory worker as long as
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: public service.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Those are leaders.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: We're talking about leaders in our community.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Now, we're talking about people who are the public service
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: make decisions on a daily basis.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: There's many, many, many different levels we're talking about. You know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: that's right South Wales. That's right is what is?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Don't understand what your argument is you answer it since
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you don't seem to think that the lines here line.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So he gets to go to the Olympics, he gets
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to become prime Minister, to be voted.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: In my principle, you're.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Arguing that they should just do their time and once
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: their time is up.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I would argue that if you have committed a crime,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: whatever that crime is, we have a judicial system. You
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: do the crime, then you serve the punishment, and once
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you've served that punishment, then it says more about society
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: than it does about that person that we grant that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: person the opportunity to know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: We grant them nothing. You rape the child, we get
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: to judge you for the rest of your.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Life and treat you like the absolute piece of stun
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: that you are. Period.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Is this just because he's Dutch? Because I find them
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: pretty annoying.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I love the Duchies. Yeah, no, I've always gotten like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a house on fire with the Dutch.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: All right, shall we go to the United States?
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute. No, No, we haven't answer my original question.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Were they actually beaches in Holland.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: They got to do with anything?
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I thought they just had like insane clogs.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: Does it really matter they just practice insane.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: It just goes to show how good he really is.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Wow, I'm to signing you know anyone about Joe?
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the US.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Remember back in twenty twenty where Hunter Biden's laptop was
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: causing all sorts of controversy, and then just in time
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: for the second and final presidential debate, Joe Biden was
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: handed a letter whereupon fifty one former US spies signed
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that letter saying that the laptop and the contents connecting
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden with his son's business dealings, well, it was
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: all misinformation, disinformation, It wasn't to be trusted, and effectively
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: that nullified the laptop issue and helped Joe Biden win
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the election. Have a look at this clip back from
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the time where numerous outlets were repeating this line from
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: former spies.
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: It's a story raising concerns about whether it's real or
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: just designed to so confers usion. In the final weeks
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: of the election.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Experts say it has all the hallmarks of information laundering.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: This looks like your classic disinformation campaign.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: I think there are a lot of issues related to
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: this New York Post story that im portally referenced the
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Hunter Biden emails, and as I and several of any
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: former colleagues had pointed out publicly that it does bear
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And there it is in the Oval Office.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: Another wonderful propaganda coup for Vladimir Putin, seeing the President
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: of United States holding up a newspaper promoting Kremlin propaganda.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the White House Intelligency Intelligence Committee report has found
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: not all of those fifty one former spies were in
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: fact format spies. The former CIA Acting Director Director Michael
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Moral Moral he was in fact on a contract with
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the CIA at the time that he signed that letter,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: as was the ex Agency Inspector General David Buckley, plus
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Lee another two of the supposed former spies who signed it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So all these people who are skeptical about the deep state, Liz,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: this proves there was in fact a deep state operating
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: where serving spies were becoming highly politicized.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: This isn't even deep state, like anyone who knows anything
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: about CIO operations This is just perfect. This is another
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: day at the CIA. Anyone who's read a book wrote
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Tom O'Neil called chaos. I seriously could not put that
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: thing down. You become familiar with mk Ultra, you become
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: familiar with chaos. These all these Project Phoenix, all these
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: diabolical CIA operations that were eliciting great evil on their
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: own people and certainly overseas, but gaging in political process.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Now the CIA is not allowed to do that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: That is not what.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Of course they do it all the time. But whatever,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: they're not exactly so here they've been caught out lying
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: yet again, I mean moral.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: Flatley denied he.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Was a contractor when contacted by the Post. If you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: write that, you would be wrong, he told the Post.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: Later on, he said he couldn't speculate on why he
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: was listed as such as in like a current contractor
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: by the agency, because he said and insisted, it's just
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: flat out wrong.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And then of course it came out that it was
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely right. So there he was, bald face lying to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the Post twice until the congressional source provided the Post
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: with proof that no, no, he's he was in fact
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: still working for them. So for me, I love these
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: stories because whatever helps people become more and more aware
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: of the fact that these agencies work around the clock,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and they do so to.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Pull the wool over people's eyes.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: That's it, period.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And I promise if anyone reads the book Chaos by
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Tom O'Neill, you will see the same You'll never look
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: at the world the same way again.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: What this What disturbs me most about this is the
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: incompetence of it. Surely firstly, well, you've got the deep state, right,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and the deep state instead of actually secretly running the world,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: it's outsourcing it, right, So it's outsourcing it to a contractor.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: If we believe the CIA itself might have been involved whatever,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: or maybe this guy they are.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Involved, it's just been proven.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: No, no, he was doing it as a contractor. But
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: was he doing it at the behest of the CIA
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: or was he just happen to be listed as a
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: contract at the same time. Actually, there's at least five
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: of them, maybe and maybe that were okay. But if
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: you're the CIA and you're trying to do this, why
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: would you do it with assets that have a paper
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: trail connecting you, connecting them to Well.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: They didn't the Congressional source pulled all this apart.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Much like the ture.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: He provided the Post document.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: They provided the Post with the CIA's document that confirmed it. Yes,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: don't leave the paper trail, guys. I mean, I know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: you know, I know political staffers who are too smart
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: to do that. Actually, they literally there was one I knew.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I won't say it was used to every every single
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: day before they logged off their computer, they checked the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: scent items in their email box and if it was empty,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: then they were happy. They never sent an email never ever,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: because they never left a paper trail. Everything on the phone. Anyway,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying the New South Wales government knows how
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: to do it. Why aren't these guys, Why doesn't the CIA?
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: It just seems really really sloppy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Speaking of sloppy, though, how do you think that we
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: found out about their far worse.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Projects over the course of history.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: We are now laid there for everyone to read and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: go never trusting you guys within a single inch of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: my life. I mean, what the Church Committee uncovered back
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in the sixties the seventies about MK Ultra, about chaos,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: about Project Phoenix, the lifts Weear's well was so damning
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: of the CIA. Yeah, intelligence agency, you were killing Americans
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: on American.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Soil direct quote.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: If you do that, we can't put anything past you,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: can I mean, what you've been up to is that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: unforgivable and that evil.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I'm still getting over the Yes, his small.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Fry, it was just election interference. It's like, oh, this
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: stuff on Biden's stop connecting Joe Biden to his dodgy
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: dealings with all these countries overseas.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: No, No, that part of the laptop.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, guys, you know, spooks, if you're going
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: to engage in a cover up, do it properly. Do
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it properly. Don't let a paper trail, you know, don't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Leave the paper trail. We want him to be sloppy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Joe, Oh my god. I mean the Britsy operation mincemeat
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: and they got away with it. The CIA can't even organizer.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that it was so sloppy shows
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: you how confident they are with their connection to the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Biden administration and the media, et cetera.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Their connections.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: They can afford to live a little bit sloppy and
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it's really not going to come back to bite them.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And even this revelation in the news probably won't affect
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: that many people when they vote.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Well, no, indeed, but see right now, it's level of
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: importance is nothing and nobody cares. It was in order
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to pip him at the post in the twenty twenty election,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and some could say it worked.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Do you think that the IA is behind the push
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: to stop RFK Junior from running the election in New Jersey?
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: Why would they?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: That's probably he's a little bit.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks, just the teamsters know well, it's funny
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you mentioned.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: That about that, Joe, tell us about it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked RFK Jr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I preferred Bobby Kennedy Senior. That's just me has been
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: hit with a law so that seeks to boot him
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: from the ballot, the presidential ballot Jersey. Now RFK pulled
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: out of the Democrat primary for the presidency. I don't
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: know why. I would have thought he was a shoeing
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: to pick it up, you know, like what could possibly
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: go around?
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I know the numbers went with they'd probably.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Be more electable than Joe Biden. And then he's trying
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: to get on the ballot as an independent candidate. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: now there is a law suit and it's called something
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: like the saw loser law. So you basically can't get
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: on the ballot as an independent candidate if you've run
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and lost as a party endorsed candidate. But of course
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: he didn't run and lost lose. He pulled out because
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: he knew he was going to lose. So does the
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: sore loser thing? You know, it's the should be called
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: the would should have law. So they say no, but
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: you would.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Have the bullet law.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: I could just see the writing was on the wall.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: I wasn't going to waste my time.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Here's the court filing by attorney Scott Salmon. He says,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: frankly had defended Kennedy believes he was likely to have
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: successfully won the nomination of the Democratic Party in the primary,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he would not have withdrawn from the election months beforehand.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: How do I know that? Yeah, that's why he withdrew.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Why would you bother running if you knew you had
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: no chance of getting up?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Now you're playing in their hands. What now you're playing
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: into their hands because they're saying then that the saw
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: loser clause kicks in and so that can boot him off.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: As you said he never actually ran, he sniffed the wind,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: knew he'd lose, and so pulled out before it came
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: But I think the attorney's case is that if he
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: pulled out because he knew he was going to lose,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: then the sore loser laws can apply. This is like
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: a tongue to is it? Now the loser laws apply,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and therefore they can strike him from the ballot. Whereas
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: if he just happens to be presenting himself as a candidate,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: you know, fresh from the driven snow and oh yes,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I've flirted with the Democrats, but I decided not to
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: so I want to run as an independent, then the
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: saw loser law wouldn't necessarily apply.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So the more interesting question is what's the motivation of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: this lawsuit. Is it simply to uphold the loser law
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: because it's such an important principle, or are they trying
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to make sure that Joe Biden doesn't have someone leaking
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: votes from him.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And which is exactly what RFK is currently doing. Is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: not taking votes from the Republicans, he is taking votes
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: from the Democrats because of course, long history and his
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: family blew to the bone in that he's got a lot.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: To say, CIA, but.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: He's serving an important purpose. Basically, I would say, obviously
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he's not going to.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: Get the gong, but that is why they want him
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: off the ballot.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It's so obvious, like who cares just let him be
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: on the ballot if he's just this independent who doesn't
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: pose a threat to you in New Jersey. No, we're seeing,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: much like we've seen against Trump time and time again.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Now someone is weaponizing it's law fair judicial system over
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: there to try and get him off the ballot, which
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you just wouldn't do that if he wasn't a threat,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: would you know?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: So you're saying January sixth wasn't the real insurrection.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: You guys just love us really crazy questions of me.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Through the looking glass here.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: People, I just like to point out that I'm so
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: proud of you too. Tonight. You both mentioned deep state,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: not me. I don't think I've ever talked about deep state.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: These guys been dropping it like bombs.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: We're totally there what we're talking about. The United States.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Let's go to our favorite TV show, The View on
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the ABC, which you may or may not have heard of,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: but you would know of. One of their key figures
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: will be Goldberg. You know what the left always talking
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: about how Donald Trump is borish and he's a brute,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Have a listen to this exchange and what will be Goldberg.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: I don't think we have to. I think it would be.
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: Remiss of us to not say, Joe Biden knows how
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: to do this. Yes, he knows how to do this.
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: He's he's quite good at this. And you know, you
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: can't refute anything with him because he just when I
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: say him, I mean Trump, he tends to just.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Can I mention one thing?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: At least get a bowl? Like she got a spittoon
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: down there?
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Roads do you have it?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And everyone laughing and actually clapping? How deranged are your viewers?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine if someone on Fox did that after
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: having said the name Joe Biden.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I like the outrage, but I think it's very telling
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: that there are five people sitting on the panel. But
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: the show is called The View, not the Views, just
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: the View. It's interesting, will be I think you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: you've got to cut some slack hair, because while obviously
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: she did slightly transgress in that incident, she has made
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: invaluable contributions to race relations, anti Semitism, and of course
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: world history more generally. With this little remark a couple
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: of years ago, then.
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: Let's be truthful about it, because the Holocaust isn't about race. No,
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: it's not about it's about a different race, but it's
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: it's not about race. It's not about because it's about
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: man's inhumanity to man.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: That's what it's about.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: But it's about white supremacy.
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: But it's not about but these are white groups of people.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: On the view.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That was like, in a minute, what this is?
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: But the first one, like all of it, we could
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: just play it again because the amazing is when she says,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: because the truth, lets me truthful here, Let's be truthful here,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the Holocaust wasn't about race. And then one of the
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: other people off coming goes no, And then what the
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: hell did I just say? I want to know where's
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: her apology to realize that there's a little what what?
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: But like, not only is that just direct angel, just
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: the most absurd thing to say, but the Holocaust was
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: so incredibly specifically about race, Like she clearly just has
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: no idea what happened. She has no idea about that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: I don't know how she kept a job.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Because even so, there's obviously for centuries and centuries Jews
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: have been persecuted by all sorts of societies and countries
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: and kingdoms, and and and they extradited, deported, treated appallingly, killed, blood,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you know, blood libel, that terrible conspiracy theory before the
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which the Nazis relied
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: on and the Russians also quite enjoyed. But in all
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the centuries previously, right, the Jews would be round up,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: they'd be deported, though he treated absolutely appallingly, but they
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: could convert to Christianity and save their skin. Right, So
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: obviously most of them didn't do that because they believe
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: in Jahweh. But I'm not going to say his name
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: unless I'm in the Holy of Holies. But whatever the
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: point being, with Hitler and the Nazis, there was nothing
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: you could do. You couldn't convert. Hitler believed purely that Judahism,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: being Jewish was a blood disease, that it was in
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: your blood and you couldn't get rid of it. So
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: you could swear on a stack of Bibles that you
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: were card carrying Christian Church going member of the Nazi Party,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: and it would do absolutely nothing. It was purely to
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: do with race. He saw the Jews purely as a race,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: not as a religion, purely as a race. And so
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: and that's why that's why he exterminated them all person
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: He wanted to just get them all out of Gremany.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: They thought, you know what, not, we'll just kill them all.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: And so for someone to say that, it's like.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: It wasn't about raceless.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: It just blows my mind that someone can live so
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: many years on this planet and that TV show and
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: just still like about the Nazis, Like, how could you
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: get something wrong about the Nazi? Oh no, it was
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: just that it was just man's in humanity to man.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: It's like, lady, not all ladies.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I had a very clear hierarchy, not a historian.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Before we go to a break tonight, a school.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Year of West Primary school to be ah, to be specific,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Heartler has sung a bastardized version of our anthem. This
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: is what they're trying to convince kids. Our anthem is nowadays.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I can't let you go without you Hearing the dulcet
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: tones of Judith Durham singing her version of our anthem
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: are the bones.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: To the respectation and no honory?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: But that stra.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: What is this perversion?
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: I'm not honoring the dreaming.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It means absolutely nothing to me. What is this? She's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: basically written DEI into our national anthem as well? Can
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you imagine getting little kids to do this? You should
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: be a jailable events, so the law of.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Got you're a musician, Judith, if you're going to change
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: anything about the Australian national anthems.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: On that note, we're going to go to a break
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: stick around.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we look at what's making news
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papies.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Well, let's have a look at what tomorrow's papers are going.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: With most of them, as you can imagine, lead with
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the story of Julian asan driving back Ralia. We'll have
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: a look at the Canbra Times, which goes with the
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: headline or deal ends in Canberra Assans Lands Home.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Oh that's just.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: No ordeal.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Why till you see Cabra. Please just take me back
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: to Belmarsh.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Most people's ordeals begin in Canbra Assan's Lands Home free
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: after fourteen years, Julian Assandra's return to Australia, the article says,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: marks the combination of a dramatic shift in Australia's position
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: on the controversial Wiki leaks founder. The article goes on
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: really to talk about Anthony Albanesi's involvement in getting Assange
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: home to Australia.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Waiting for it now, Liz, so imagine now that the
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: pad your.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Hero that's gotten a side eye from me, A good one,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: but not enough.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: For a vote.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: We'll have a look.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: He didn't waste any time posting a photograph of himself
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: on the phone to Julian Assange.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Is he could be on the phone to anyone, Well.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It was probably a stage photo. But Albanez he told
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the world that Assange had referred to he and his
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: team as the quote diplomatic a team and that had
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: been his calm, methodical, patient diplomacy, which will be the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: first time that this government has done anything with a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: degree of talk about themselves.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Like this.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Got Julian Assange, but.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: It got better.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: And then he said, I'm a politician who gets things done.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: This would be about the first thing he's gotten done
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: in two years.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: On it's so Julian, Julia.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: He can't help with cost of living. He can't give
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you the two hundred and seventy five bucks off your
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: power bills, and he promised he's every single target that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: they've set for their green dream is failing, and every
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: energy company is like help, no, this is not possible.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: I can go on.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: But that's why he released Julie because we all know
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: that Julianasane is the messiah and he can fix everything.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: So we're just getting you know, you're a convert job absolutely,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Julian Massange. I mean, you know, people, the word hero
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: gets banded around too much these days, but I think
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: not Cape superhero, well some of them where there's weird.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: He entered into a plea deal.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I had a freedom just to get home, but have
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a listened to one of his legal teams, as Jennifer Robinson,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: she certainly didn't sound very circumspect regarding what's happened.
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: This is journalism, this is the criminalization of journalism. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: while the plea deal does not set a judicial precedent,
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: it's not a court decision, the prosecution itself sets a
• 40:08
  Speaker 11: precedent that can be used against the rest of the media.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: So Sane may have done a plea deal and pleaded guilty,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: but certainly defiant.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: He didn't speak tonight.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Well, he only pleaded because he has some serious heart problems. Now,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't get to spend fourteen years locked
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: up and then be tip top in your health. And
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: also the reports of his declining mental health over men.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: So he didn't mean he's pleads at all.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: But you can't plead guilty and then how and I
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: had my fingers crossed. I don't really mean it like
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: surely you and.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: He's not saying that.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I that's just as soon.
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: Not even want one charge of espionage.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Please look if you.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Want to be a martyr or not. If you're going
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: to be a martyr, out.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Of fourteen years of martyrdom, I think is enough. Five
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: years and the high security marsh prison being treated like
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: an absolute.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Seven years, and.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: With the cat and stuff, and the stuff he did
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: with the cat.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: You would not have him have a cat.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Well, he was doing weird like it was. That's enough.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying I should have seen apparently the smell
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: was just anyway, speaking of something that's a bit on
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: the nose. Herald suns run with taxed to death. The
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: cost and this is this is never a good look
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: for a government. I'm just gonna you know, a bit
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: of free pr advice. The cost of dying is set
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: to skyrocket in Victoria, with the Alan government considering introducing
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: what has been panned as a quote death tax by stealth.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: This story is like a bad penny, it keeps coming back.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: The Labour's got some secret plan to introduce death taxes.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Don't do it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: It's a really bad idea, not a vote. Grieving people
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: don't like being they've got a tax bill when they've
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: just lost a loved one. I don't know people are
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: funny like that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is utterly disgusting that people can work
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: their guts out hopefully everyone hopes to leave something to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the kids or the grandkids, or if they didn't have kids,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a niece or nephew, who knows.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: And then the government comes.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Along and be like, oh, we see that you're dead now,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and we know that your entire life, we've taxed it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: When you've received money, we've taxed you. When you've spent.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: Money, we've taxed you.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: If you invest it, then you get taxed as well.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: You're also taxed.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: If you just hold on to it, you get a
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: car because you need to get to work.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: We tax that as well. I mean, there is.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: No end to this, and now you die and they
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: want a piece of your pie.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: It is utterly vile.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: How did we get to fighting a revolutionary war over
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a two percent tax to allowing these flogs to beat
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: us this badly?
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: While we're on the handstet side, just very quickly five to.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: The right of tax the American colonists were paying was
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: nothing caned to the rate of tax that Britain's in Britain,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: in Britain were paying the American Revolutionary War, you guys were.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: And neither was a tiny bit of what we're paying.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Now colonial subjects.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: The craziest part of this story is you've got this
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: headline on the front page of the Herald's son, tax
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to death.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: You were absolutely right.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: This is the last thing the government wants to see
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: on the front page.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: And all of that to raise thirty three million dollars.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing. I think maybe I've got another good picture.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: If you want to sell this guy, you could say
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: that it's actually an efficiency drive, because we all know
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the only two things that are certain in life are
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: death and taxes. And now they've combined the two ah
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Tho's government can't be official.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Were you the brains behind this joke? To the front
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: page of the Northern Territory News. Now, bomb squad detonates
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: World War II relic hidden below car park last from
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the past. A construction crew narrowly avoided becoming the latest
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: World War II fatalities eight decades after the war, after
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: pulling up a fifty kilo bomb with an excavator and
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: prompting a mass x evacuation. I was about to say
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: excavation evacuation at the Darwin Waterfront.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: The bomb, which lay.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Dormant under a busy car park for years, has now
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: been detonated.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: I bet I like that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I bet the car park. I bet the bowels of
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: the builders who dug it up had a mass evacuation,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: but they realized they're going to bomb.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Well, imagine if you'd been parking in that car park
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: above it for you know, I don't know the last month,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in the last twelve months, I've been like.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Well, you can do this. It's amazing, but you can
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: do this underground tour of all the little sort of
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: mines and tunnels and pipes and stuff that were underneath
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: the defenses of Darwin in World War Two. It's wow, incredible.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I wasn't aware that there was a live bomb waiting
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: to be exploded at the time that I did it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Tasmanian Mercury newspaper.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Now the front page has got a story about the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: new AFL stadium, which there's not much to say about that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: But what caught our is the presence of.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: What appears to be Chris Kenny there with the AFL CEO.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Now we know Chris Kenny loves his AFL, but what's
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: he doing in test?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I had no idea with AFL boss Andrew Dillon, who
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: says hitting timelines are critical in the seven hundred and
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: fifteen million mcquarie Points stadium building.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Hobart, Chris, do you have a vested interest?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It's a cuny Brian willshoot modern point.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Christ General manager Kenny has.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Really let himself gore. Thank you very much. The fine, fine,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: fine piece of reportage in the Newcastle Herald. Min's backs
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: MP what aheadline? Well, I hope so, Premier, but not
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: just any MP a criminal. He's not a criminal, Premier
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Christmin says Tim Krackenthorpe has his support to standing in
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: the next election, despite the corruption watchdog finding the Newcastle
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: MP breached the public's trust by knowingly failing to declare
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: conflict of interest relating to family properties in the system
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: in the city. Oh my god, a politician breached public trust.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: So why is he backing him? I mean you know that,
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: I want to say, for as look at.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Those check lines. Look at those checkbnes. Liz, tell me
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: you don't love him.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Look at it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: We're going to end up there.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: A politician betting that he will lose the election though
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: he's trying to win it.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: That's come out in month, welcome back.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Well, this is if you were going to Hobart and
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: wanted to look at, say a Picasso, where might you
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: go to find a Picasso?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: These the ladies toilets in the Mona Museum in Tasmania.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: You may recall this is the same museum. This is
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the same art gallery that was effectively, well successfully i
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: should say, sued by Jason Law because they had a
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: lady's only part of the gallery and he was a
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: man and he wanted to see what was inside, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: so he sued them on the basis of discrimination. He won.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: They're now appealing that decision. But in the meantime, the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: lady at the center of the kafuffle, who is in
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: fact the wife of the owner of said museum, decided
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to hang the pacasos up.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: In the ladies' toilets.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: So there you go.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: She got her way anyway, So funny.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: She's there trolling.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Totally love it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: And the interesting thing is that by putting the stuff
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: in the ladies's ache and getting someone to complain, that
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: was actually part of the installation, so that actually, yes,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: so the art, if you like or whatever, the point
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: of it was to make no discriminated against it. So
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I don't like got that silly boat stuff, but this
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: is actually really clever, crazy stuff. But I did remind
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: me of one question I desperately wanted to ask you this.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Should Chelsea Manning be allowed to use the female toilet?
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: No, of course not.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's very consistent.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Mona have done is they've got
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: themselves free publicity for the better years through this thing,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: and guaranteed a massive lineup for the women's.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Toilets before we go.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: The UK election is upon us, but candidates are dropping
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: out all over the place because of gambling allegations. Rishie
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Sunak has had to stand down two of his candidates
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: who apparently were betting on the timing of the election,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and now Labor have had to sack a candidate, Kevin Craig,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: who has been found to.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Be betting against himself.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: He made a statement saying, throughout my life, I've enjoyed
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the odd bet for fun, whether on politics or horses.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, when I thought I'd never win
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: this seat anyway, I put a bet on the Tories
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: to win here with the intention here we go of
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: giving local charities he was doing Kevin Craig do so
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: here he is running for public but betting on the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: side that he will lose the election.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Imagine if it actually won. Just how Morosi be in
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: his victory spens. Yeah, I'd like to thank all the volunteers.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: We don't know how much money in both in the case, wi,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I just love it so much anyway. Well, I mean,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: if he won, he was excited. If he lost, he
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: got a consolation prize.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: That's it from us. Stick around coming up in just
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: a moment is the reader. Pennehy show