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INTERVIEW: Paul Walter Hauser On Getting Sober, Finding Clarity & Understanding Hollywood · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You all finished or you all done?
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  Speaker 3: Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
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  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 4: We have Paul Walter Hauser.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Hey.
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  Speaker 4: How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 1: Spoiled, man.
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  Speaker 3: God is good. I'm just trying not to F it up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Life is good.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think you can fuck it up, Paul?
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  Speaker 3: Trying not to F it up. Can we curse? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Put it in your mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Sash. What is that?
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  Speaker 4: What is that?
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  Speaker 3: It's a nicotine pouch.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. It's for sober people who are still addicted to something.
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  Speaker 3: Got you.
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  Speaker 5: So you have like an oral fixation or you're addicted
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  Speaker 5: to that actual nicotine?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I don't need you telling people I got an
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  Speaker 3: oral fixation.
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  Speaker 2: Damn.
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  Speaker 3: It's got a connotation, dog.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you not saying that.
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  Speaker 2: You got to do what you got to do in Hollywood, Paul.
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  Speaker 1: That was out of pocket. No, this was out of
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  Speaker 1: my pocket. I am five years sober next month.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, dude. I was just one of those people who, like,
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  Speaker 1: you give me pizza, I want seven slices. You give
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  Speaker 1: me weed, I want to rip the bong nine times.
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  Speaker 1: You give me alcohol, I want to, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: online shopping while drunk and then.
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  Speaker 3: Forget I bought concert tickets. Dang. I was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that was me.
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  Speaker 4: When did you get to the point where you knew
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  Speaker 4: you had to stop?
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I was at a strip club in the French Quarter
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  Speaker 1: in Nola by myself, and I was just throwing money away,
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  Speaker 1: and I was thinking about suicide. And I was drunk
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  Speaker 1: and high and lonely, and I said, this got too dark.
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  Speaker 4: But a strip is that bad that you just... Man,
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  Speaker 4: shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell is your problem?
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  Speaker 1: You're like, I didn't know white people had issues.
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  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying? The strip was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 1: He said he was at the strip club and it
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  Speaker 1: was all bad. It was not fun. It was not like,
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  Speaker 1: make it rain.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this was like Charlie Brown, the rain cloud falling.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, damn. Yeah, that kind of rain.
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  Speaker 2: And you did it in... How did you get out
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  Speaker 2: of that place?
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  Speaker 4: I pivoted.
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  Speaker 1: I just made some life choices. I stopped watching... I
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  Speaker 1: stopped watching porn and I stopped drinking July of 2021.
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  Speaker 3: And then, uh, and then.
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  Speaker 1: Like three months later I was in one of these, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, meetings or whatever with all the dudes. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I've been lying to y'all. I've been
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  Speaker 1: getting high. I'm still high. Like I've been high in
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  Speaker 1: meetings and I cried and broke down and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to start my day count over. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to start over. I'm getting rid of weed. And so
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  Speaker 1: October 26th was my first day clean.
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  Speaker 3: Of all the things.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: And we all got issues and drama and problems. But
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  Speaker 1: at least I can deal with them without having those
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  Speaker 1: million crutches, which is what it was for me. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't vilify weed or alcohol. I think if you
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  Speaker 1: can handle it, dude, follow your bliss and enjoy Coachella.
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  Speaker 1: But I couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: What clarity has it given you as a man and
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  Speaker 2: as an actor?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how selfish I was until I was sober.
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  Speaker 3: I just, I was.
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  Speaker 1: It's like one of those things, you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: giving an example, but like somebody, somebody who like will
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  Speaker 1: buy somebody a birthday gift and it's a gift they
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  Speaker 1: would buy themselves. It's like you both bought someone a
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  Speaker 1: gift and you are both shining a light on your
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  Speaker 1: own selfishness to not know what that person really wants.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like that kind of a thing. So, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I just, I have more clarity. I'm able to be
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  Speaker 1: a father. I got three kids. And if I was, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if I was getting high, eating a
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  Speaker 1: bag of Frito-Lay Cheetos or whatever, up till three in
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  Speaker 1: the morning watching stand-up on YouTube, I could not wake
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  Speaker 1: up and be a good father.
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  Speaker 3: And that was like how I was bangin'..
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  Speaker 4: I commend you because even being that honest to talk
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  Speaker 4: about it is difficult because a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: Don't have the honesty to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Men got to be more vulnerable. The fruits of the
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  Speaker 1: spirit in the Bible are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
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  Speaker 1: and self-control. And gentleness is something that dudes just are
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  Speaker 1: not on yet.
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  Speaker 5: We're not even gentle with ourselves the way that we're
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be.
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  Speaker 3: Give yourself grace.
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  Speaker 2: Give yourself grace. We're too hard on ourselves.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did this talk show. It's called the Boy
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  Speaker 1: Talk Talk Show. We got Blake Griffin, Becky Lynch, Teddy Swims,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Roush, who won Traders. We got all these amazing
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: guests for the first eight episodes are dropping. But it's
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: kind of shining a light on toxic masculinity. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the things with toxic masculinity is like dudes not
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  Speaker 1: feeling they– it's like when a dude hugs another dude
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  Speaker 1: and they feel they got to pat their back. Or
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  Speaker 1: say no homo. It's like, dude, y'all need to chill out, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody thinks you're trying to unzip my pants because we
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  Speaker 1: hugged or because you told me your feelings.
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  Speaker 3: Like, calm down.
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  Speaker 5: And this room is total opposite of that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
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  Speaker 5: Like, no, y'all always think that y'all is trying to
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  Speaker 5: rear-end each other.
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  Speaker 4: Like, that's just what it is.
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  Speaker 2: You come up behind him.
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  Speaker 3: She's trying to say that we're.
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  Speaker 2: Okay being gay.
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  Speaker 3: And....
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  Speaker 1: I purposely, I do a thing in every episode where
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  Speaker 1: each male co-host, I always grab their inner thigh when
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  Speaker 1: I agree with them.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: Just to make them feel uncomfortable. Oh, that's a little
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  Speaker 1: too far. Just to make them feel uncomfortable. That's a
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  Speaker 1: little too far. Dude, it's so funny, though. It gets
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  Speaker 1: the best reaction.
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  Speaker 4: That might be a little too far.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That I did. Hey, man. Hey, man.
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  Speaker 1: You're wrong.
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  Speaker 4: See, you told him, so this is different. But if
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  Speaker 4: you didn't tell him, you just grabbed his thigh. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: my God.
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  Speaker 2: I wish you would have did it.
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  Speaker 1: I wish you would have did it. No, I want
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  Speaker 1: to be brought back.
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  Speaker 3: I want to come back. I want you all to
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  Speaker 3: have me again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he would love you.
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  Speaker 3: He would invite you.
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  Speaker 1: But Chuck Liddell, the UFC fighter, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: I touched his thigh, but I definitely, I think... I
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  Speaker 1: think at one point we like high five and I
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  Speaker 1: interlink my fingers with him like a marital couple.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But just making people uncomfortable, that kind of between two
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  Speaker 1: ferns thing with Zach Galifianakis, I love that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 2: I like a good, just put a little good dick joke.
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  Speaker 2: Just place it.
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  Speaker 3: Hysterical.
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  Speaker 2: Just nice in there somewhere in the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: That's me, man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the same guy, you know, quoting the book of Ephesians,
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  Speaker 1: but also making 40 dick jokes a day.
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  Speaker 4: We go far. You know the turnstile when you leave
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  Speaker 4: the glass doors? I'll jump in it behind him and
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  Speaker 4: be the same one going.
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  Speaker 3: Around and around.
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  Speaker 1: I do that all the time, dude. Yeah, just goofing, man.
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  Speaker 1: I do that all the time. Just goofing, bro. I
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  Speaker 1: love elevators, man. I'm always trying to make people uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: in an elevator.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just be like.
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  Speaker 3: How's everybody doing today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just doing a wellness check.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I'll make them look up from their phones. I
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  Speaker 1: love stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of married men who are
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  Speaker 5: completely favorable to their wives, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like we are.
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  Speaker 2: They end up flirting with each other. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: primal instinct. They got to flirt with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's just, it's fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: But, but yeah, no, I think, and once again, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people get really pissed off. They're like, we
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  Speaker 1: talk about toxic masculinity. Men are supposed to, it's like, dude, Femininity, masculinity,
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  Speaker 1: these are good things. I'm putting an adjective on it
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  Speaker 1: because I'm calling out the nature with which it becomes
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  Speaker 1: wayward or perverse. These dudes like Patrick Bet-David who are like,
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  Speaker 1: Money is the greatest thing in the world. Dudes like
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate. It's like you're sending messaging out to young
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  Speaker 1: men to tell them that if you're an entrepreneur at
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  Speaker 1: 19 and you have a bunch of followers and you're
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  Speaker 1: putting videos out of you at a nightclub, you're cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, it's not cool, bro. You might think it's cool,
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  Speaker 1: but that's perception. Reality is you are probably very scared
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  Speaker 1: and you are probably very, what's the word? You're probably
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  Speaker 1: very insecure.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, but you avoided the question.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think married men who are faithful flirt with
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  Speaker 5: other men just because? Do you flirt with men?
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  Speaker 3: I flirt with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not children, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Not on that. Not on that.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you.
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  Speaker 5: You wore a coordinates to Jeffrey Epstein's old ranch.
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  Speaker 1: Zorro Ranch.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: To the Resident Evil premiere. Why?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to stir the pot, bro.
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  Speaker 1: My heroes are people like Kendrick Lamar and Cat Williams.
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  Speaker 3: I like truth tellers. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're perfect. Cat's on some other shit
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  Speaker 1: sometimes where I'm not sure I fully buy the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: But I still, I like pointing out like, hey, give
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  Speaker 1: this a Google search. Do your own research, as they say.
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  Speaker 3: I heard a.
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  Speaker 1: Church bought that Zorro Ranch.
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  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, that's sketchy, bro. Like, uh, Catholic church. Shut up, man.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: Don't even have to be Catholic. Let's call it what
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  Speaker 1: it is. Some people are doing some awful things in
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  Speaker 1: the name of Jesus and they're going to get it
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  Speaker 1: the worst when the game.
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  Speaker 3: Is over, bro.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're right. You're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to get it the worst.
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  Speaker 5: We had that conversation the other day because we were
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  Speaker 5: talking about, you know, uh, our guy D1 was up
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  Speaker 5: here and he was saying how, you know, people who, um,
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  Speaker 5: he was talking about rappers and they promote like negative
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  Speaker 5: things in their music. It feels like, You know, those
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  Speaker 5: are the ones that are probably in line for hell first.
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  Speaker 5: But then, you know, Lauren LaRosa was like, well, what
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  Speaker 5: about the pastors who are preaching the word of God
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  Speaker 5: all the time, but they're not living like that.
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  Speaker 3: What up?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And, you know, God's love and grace is abundant, bro. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to be perfect, but I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a difference between evil people and sinners. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: all sinners, but I think there's some evil people who
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: are just strategically hurting people their entire lives.
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  Speaker 5: I completely agree with that. I never thought about that.
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  Speaker 5: There's a difference between evil and we all sin, right?
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  Speaker 3: We all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm committed to evil. I'm a free man surrounded
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  Speaker 1: by slave masons, bro. I'm okay being way less famous
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  Speaker 1: and way less powerful if I don't got those chains
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  Speaker 1: on me.
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  Speaker 2: Was Mo Man evil or a sinner? No.
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  Speaker 1: He was evil as shit in those comic books.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: He was not a good dude. Yeah, they made him
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: kind of a more teddy bear than grizzly bear in
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  Speaker 1: that movie. But that was fun, man. I loved getting
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: to play in the Marvel world for a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: And you like wrestling too? You jumped into the wrestling world?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, real quick.
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  Speaker 5: Because you said something, right? You said you're happy having
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  Speaker 5: way less money and being way less famous. Paul, you
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: have an Emmy.
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  Speaker 2: You have a Golden Globe. Got a hot.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus-loving wife and three dope kids.
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  Speaker 4: I like the way Paul says it.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: You're doing very, very, very well. Some may say you're
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: in the Illuminati.
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  Speaker 3: Illuminati. That's a cute word.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: Freemasons run the world. That's what's going on. And your
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  Speaker 1: votes don't count, and your opinion is cute. That's why
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  Speaker 1: you got to get down with God, and you got
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  Speaker 1: to have community, and you got to take care of
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  Speaker 1: each other. I agree. Because the world is... one big
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  Speaker 1: puppetry thing, and they're trying to distract you.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think votes count even after what we've seen
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still riding for people. I'm still making fun of
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Ken Paxton on the Today Show earlier and giving love
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  Speaker 1: to James Tallarico. I'll still vote and ride for people,
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  Speaker 1: but I also think there's a ceiling. It is constructed
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  Speaker 1: so that there are boundaries and a ceiling behind with
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: how much change can actually be made.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you think everything that's happening right now is by design?
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  Speaker 1: To some degree, not everything. And, you know, we can
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  Speaker 1: kind of decode or break the matrix a little bit
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  Speaker 1: with how we roll. And we've seen that with, you know, MLK.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen that with Hashtag Me Too. Like, there have
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  Speaker 1: been things where, like, we saw actual change and it
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  Speaker 1: was like, hell yeah. So I don't mean to say
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  Speaker 1: that you are not powerful. You watching... Like, you're more
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  Speaker 1: powerful than you know, but just know the game you're playing.
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  Speaker 1: The game is rigged, but the God is real.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I was asking, what got you into wrestling? Why did
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  Speaker 4: you jump back into wrestling?
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  Speaker 1: I love wrestling. I just never fell out of love
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  Speaker 1: with it. I think it's so fun.
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: What did your wife say when you said, Dave, I
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: want to wrestle?
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  Speaker 3: She's not a fan.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sure.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: Not a fan.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm limping around. I had an easy match like
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  Speaker 1: four days ago in Charleston, South Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: Simple, simple match. Oh, for real?
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: I was born in Charleston.
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  Speaker 1: That was nice. I really liked it the short time
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I was there, and I had a match against this guy.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: He's part of the male cheer squad for the Savannah Bananas.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: You all know about that? Speaking of things that would
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: make some tight dude be like, no homo, Savannah Bananas.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: But this guy, Cody Fluffman, had a great five-minute match
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  Speaker 1: with him, and I just, dude, I can barely walk.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened to my hip.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's the Gluteus medius, the muscle from the
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: top of your ass to the side of your thigh.
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  Speaker 1: I can barely walk without taking 1,200 milligrams of Advil. Damn.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: What did he.
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  Speaker 1: Do to your ass?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing. Nothing happened, man.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: What's wrong with you, man?
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: As Cat Williams said, I got a virgin booty hole.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. Okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: It is interesting that you're an award-winning actor, like I
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  Speaker 2: just said.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You got a whole family. You're doing fine in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: You don't need independent wrestling money.
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  Speaker 1: You're really doing this for the sport. Are you that bored?
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: It's just something that you like to do. Yeah, it's
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: just about having fun while you're alive on Earth. I
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: put out a hip-hop EP in 2022. I wrestle. I
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  Speaker 1: write screenplays. I, you know, watch cooking videos on YouTube
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: and try to make my family dope stuff. Like, I
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: just love having fun, man. I'm a firm believer in
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: there are no guilty pleasures. There's only pleasures. Just got
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  Speaker 1: to own it.
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  Speaker 5: At what point did wrestling stop being a hobby and
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  Speaker 5: it became something you need to prove to yourself you
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  Speaker 5: could actually do?
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got asked. This guy, Sammy Callahan, asked me
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: to do a fundraiser to raise money for the people
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: affected by the wildfires in Maui back in 2023. They
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: had Ronda Rousey, Jon Moxley, Jacob Fatu. They had real
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: awesome people on that card. And, uh, he said, do
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: you want to wrestle a.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: 10 minute match? And I was like, all right, man. Yeah, sure.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: And I did it.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: And the adrenaline spike you get, dude, I mean, some
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: of y'all were athletes back in the day probably. So
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you already know what it feels like, but I
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't much of an athlete. So like for me, like
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: my high is acting and getting that high in the
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: ring of, um, of proving you can do something, taking
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: a suplex off the top rope, like.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Did y'all rehearse, though? Did y'all rehearse before y'all went
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: out there?
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: We either rehearse, rehearse, or we verbally rehearse. It depends
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: on who it is and what you're doing. But I
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: love it, man. I see guys like Bad Bunny and
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Jelly Roll doing matches in WWE, and I'm like, I
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: can do that.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I want to do that.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: So is it the adrenaline rush?
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: Is that what wrestling gives you, that acting doesn't?
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Adrenaline rush and just instant gratification. I did stand-up comedy
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: for a number of years. And, uh, there's something great
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: about getting that immediate response. Same with cooking though, too.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: It's like people are eating that thing once it's cooled off.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: And, uh, there's something nice to that.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Paul, Paul has a good, they've been hitting me like crazy.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Oh really?
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Oh damn.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: No, I got, I got a couple more minutes. Oh, perfect.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: And you're playing a Mick Foley I saw in a
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: limited series.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I'm attached to play Mick Foley in a limited series
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: about the life of that wrestler and what he went
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: through between WCW and WWE trying to find his way
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: and find his voice. And, um, He ended up going
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: to Japan having these crazy death matches, they're called, with
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: C4 explosives and barbed wire and stuff. Him and this dude,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Terry Funk, just beat the shit out of each other.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: And so we're telling that story, and we're just trying
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: to assemble the team to pitch it now.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, man, playing that character could
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: probably take you to a dark place, but I feel
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: like you've already kind of been there.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I played a serial killer for an Apple show.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: That was... darkest I want to go.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about the
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: character you play.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, me? Yeah. No. Straight up.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was in a dark place when I shot that.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Lately, I've been in a much lighter place.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: It's a nice place to be.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: What's one thing that you want to do that you
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: haven't done? I mean, you did an album.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: You've done movies.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: You've done stand-up.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Only an EP. You've done wrestling.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I got an album coming next year.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: An EP.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: So what's one thing that you want to do that
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: you haven't got a chance to do as of yet?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: And why?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I rap under the name Signet Ringer. I have put
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: out this EP, Murder for Hire. Higher spelled H-I-G-H-E-R. And
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I talk about spiritual warfare in that. I'm looking to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: put out an album next year under the same name.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I want to direct. I have a script I wrote,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a Christmas movie that I'm hoping to direct in the
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: next year, year and a half. And just like keep producing.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: The more I produce, the more I realize I'm weirdly
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: a really good producer. I believe that because I both
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: advocate for my cast and crew and I take care
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: of people.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: But I also.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: know how to get on the phone and get us
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: more money, or I know how to take a script
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and give it notes and make it better.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Creatively, though, I think you also probably make a great
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: producer because your worldview is completely different than a lot
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: of people.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: How so? You think the being in it but not
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: of it type of thing?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Straight up.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: What does your wife understand about you that Hollywood never will?
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I wish I had like
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: an immediate, like good answer for a question that thoughtful. Um,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I think my wife understands what a teddy bear I am. Um,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: some people, you know, like, like to dude's point was
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: a dude Deontay who was on before me.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: He seemed like a cool guy.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: He, uh, you know, if I say something about the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Palestinian conflict or I say something about, like I have
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: a letterboxd account where I review movies I've seen and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: stuff and, And it got way too much attention because
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Give five stars out of five stars to some of
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: my own movies.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm telling the truth. Y'all can get mad, and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: people do. But at the end of the day, I
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: am a teddy bear, and I'm telling the truth. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I think my wife knows that. Whereas I think public
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: perception can get very caught up. Kind of the sin
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: of not being congruent with someone else's mindset.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Everybody goes crazy.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, you seem very comfortable being the guy who
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: stirs shit up. Is that courage, or you just sometimes
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: enjoy the fight?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Well, Cat said, too, he's like, I stirred up the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: hornet's nest or bee's nest, and then he was like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I got stung enough times that I backed off. So, like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I haven't been stung yet, but I'm sure when I do,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll get a little quieter. But at the end
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: of the day, I don't fear men. I don't fear
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: tech companies. I fear God.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: That's right. And so.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a whistleblower because whistleblowers get killed,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: but I want to be a truth teller and love people.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And I got God, so I don't need to worry
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: about somebody taking me out or trying to take me
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: off a platform.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I got God, dude. I'm good, man.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Did you always feel like that or when you were
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: dealing with sobriety, you started seeing that more?
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Nah, more of that. Yeah.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Put you in a different light.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Because before that, it was.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, I got to talk to Brad Pitt at
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the BAFTA tea party.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It's like, dude.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: What you learn is like the people that ride with you,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: ride with you, you have your crew and everything else
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is just.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Noise basically.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: But you know we chase and and we you know
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: real currency is a chosen pace when you choose when
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you choose how.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: You are going to walk and live.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And you believe God's got you, you don't have to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: run after stuff. All the good stuff in my life,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: from my wife to some of my really cool roles
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I've gotten to do, it all fell into the lap.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: They give actors too much credit, man. We are just
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: recipients of grace and gifts a lot of times where
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'll just wake up on a Monday and my business
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: manager's like, you got to make some money. And then
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a week later on a Tuesday, I got an offer
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: in my email from somebody I respect.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, that's amazing. Sick.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: This is my last question.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: What's something about Hollywood you understand now that would have
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: disappointed you when you were trying to get in?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Something I understand now about Hollywood that would have disappointed
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: me when I got into it would be it's never enough.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: You can win the Emmy, you still want the Oscar.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: You can make a million dollars, you still want three million.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: All that stuff, that never goes away. But at the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm starting to make peace with
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the idea that, like, it's okay that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not Michael B. Jordan.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: It's okay that I'm not Austin Butler. I may never
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: be the dude, you know, on the post or whatever.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: But that's not my calling. My calling is to love people,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to take care of my family, and to entertain you
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and try to treat you well. So at the end
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: of the day, that has to take precedence.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Which I'm trying to get there. Mm-hmm. I love that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because you seem, you're so successful.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Thanks, man.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I also just want to, I just want to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: do a good job. I want to be the guy, like,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: there's certain actors and actresses, like, I'm trying to think
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of names, like Peter Sarsgaard, who's in New Yorker, I think.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: He's not the most famous dude in the world. He's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: not making the most money, but he's always good. Every
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: time you see him, it's like, thank God this dude
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: showed up. And I just want to be that guy
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Yeah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Paul, we appreciate you for joining us this morning.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: So sad that you got to leave so early. You
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: got to come back if you're in town.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: This is a treat, man. I've been watching y'all for
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a long time, and being sharing space with you is
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: not lost on me. Thank you.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: No, thank you. Thank you.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Congratulations on all your success. It's Paul Walter Hauser. It's
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Where's the breakfast? Hold up. Every day I wake up.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Y'all finished or y'all done?